Baseball Toaster Dodger Thoughts
Log in | Register | Help
Jon Weisman's outlet
for dealing psychologically
with the Los Angeles Dodgers
and baseball.
Hot from the Toaster
BlogAds
Search
Google Search
Web
Toaster
Dodger Thoughts
Archives

2008
08  07 
06  05  04  03  02  01 

2007
12  11  10  09  08  07 
06  05  04  03  02  01 

2006
12  11  10  09  08  07 
06  05  04  03  02  01 

2005
12  11  10  09  08  07 
06  05  04  03  02  01 

2004
12  11  10  09  08  07 
06  05  04  03  02  01 

2003
12  11  10  09  08  07 
06  05  04  03  02  01 

2002
09  08  07 
About Jon
Support Dodger Thoughts

Dodger Thoughts T-Shirts
On sale through February 16, 2008
DT Blue on WhiteDT-WhiteonBLue
Click here to order.

* * *

Cover 11.25 jpeg

The Best of Dodger Thoughts
A 325-page book featuring the top selections from this website from 2002-2005.

Click here for more information.

On Sale Now at Lulu.com

Support independent publishing: buy this book on Lulu.

* * *

Or, just make a donation to support the site. Many thanks.

"Dodger Thoughts, like TiVo, is one of those things you can completely do without until you start using it."

- Fanerman

Dodger Sites
Dodger Resources
Non-Partisan Baseball Sites
Partisan Baseball Sites
Baseball, Among Other Things
Invaluable Resources
Less Dodgers, More L.A.
All in the Family
Other Writing by Jon on the Web

SI.com
NL West Preview
Evaluating Defense
Colletti and Depo
World Baseball Classic
Minor League Broadcasters
Slow Starts
Eric Gagne
Groundball Pitchers
Dodger Prospects
Albert Pujols
Humbled Angels
You Be the Manager
Eric Gagne II
Unreliable Relievers
Revived Angels
It's Okay To Sell
Dodger Turnaround
Andre Ethier
Padres-Dodgers Showdown
NL Final Weekend
Mets-Dodgers NLDS
Postseason ratings
NL Wish Lists
Manny vs. J.D.
McGwire Controversy
Dodger Offense
Trainers Matter

Variety
Will Arnett
John C. McGinley
Laura Dern
Imelda Staunton
SAG Awards
Ellen Pompeo
Grey's Anatomy
2004-05 Rookie Dramas
Anthony Hopkins
NATPE
Scrubs
Award Shows
Topher Grace
Ashton Kutcher
Writing on Improv Shows
Rainn Wilson
T.R. Knight
Guest Actors
Animation Guests
Joey Carson and Tennis
Donald Trump and Golf
2006 Emmys Nominees*
*Comedy Series
*Comedy Director
*Comedy Writer
*Comedy Actor
*Comedy Supporting Actor
Blue's Clues
Lizzy Caplan
Ann Donahue
CMT: Giants
CMA Awards
Little Miss Sunshine
Actor-Directors
Freshman Series
Clint Eastwood
Showrunners vs. Censors
Little Children
Breaking and Entering
Tartikoff Legacy Awards
Jackie Earle Haley
Knights of Prosperity
Office Online
2007 Screenplay Noms
Friday Night Lights
Robert Benton
ABC Fridays
Rookie Actors
Global Casting
2007 Pilot Casting
Sublime Slime

Also ...
A Season in Savannah (Stanford Magazine)
Five Questions: Los Angeles Dodgers (2005) (Hardball Times)
Rick Monday (Baseball Analysts)
Baseball's Odd Couple (Baseball Prospectus)
Five Questions: Los Angeles Dodgers (2006) (Hardball Times)
Five Questions: Los Angeles Dodgers (2007) (Hardball Times)

More Shameless Self-Promotion
2008 Season

Dodger home record: 35-27 (.565)
When Jon attended: 4-3 (.571)
When Jon didn't: 31-24 (.564)

1991-2007

Dodgers at home: 745-600 (.554)
Jon attended: 293-233 (.557)*
Jon didn't: 457-374 (.550)
* includes road games attended

2008 Payroll Worksheet

Current Roster with Estimated 2008 Salaries
(updated March 28)

Most figures are estimates (some are wild estimates) but will be updated as information comes in. Corrections welcome.

More contract details here.

Starting Pitchers (5)
$12,300,000 Hiroki Kuroda
$10,000,000 Derek Lowe
$9,500,000 Brad Penny
$7,000,000 Esteban Loaiza
*$500,000 Chad Billingsley
Total: $39,300,000

Bullpen (6)
$2,000,000 Takashi Saito
$1,925,000 Joe Beimel
$1,125,000 Scott Proctor
*$500,000 Jonathan Broxton
$500,000 Chan Ho Park
*$400,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
Total: $6,450,000

Starting Lineup (8)
$14,100,000 Andruw Jones
$13,000,000 Rafael Furcal
$9,000,000 Jeff Kent
$8,500,000 Nomar Garciaparra
$8,000,000 Juan Pierre
$500,000 Russell Martin
*$400,000 James Loney
*$400,000 Matt Kemp
Total: $53,900,000

Bench (6)
$875,000 Gary Bennett
$600,000 Mark Sweeney
$424,500 Andre Ethier
$391,000 Delwyn Young
$390,000 Chin-Lung Hu
$390,000 Blake DeWitt
Total: $3,071,000

Disabled List
$12,000,000 Jason Schmidt
*$400,000 Tony Abreu
*$390,000 Andy LaRoche
Total: $12,790,000

Also Paying ...
$1,000,000 Brett Tomko
$750,000 Odalis Perez
$540,000 Yhency Brazoban
$500,000 Randy Wolf
$487,500 Jason Repko
$135,225 Rudy Seanez
$100,000 Mike Lieberthal
$50,000 Ramon Martinez
Total: $3,562,725

Working total: *$113,268,725

*Rough salary estimate

The 2008 Dodgers

ESPN BR BP Cube Alvarez
ESPN BR BP Cube Abreu
ESPN BR BP Cube Beimel
ESPN BR BP Cube Bennett
ESPN BR BP Cube Billingsley
ESPN BR BP Cube Brazoban
ESPN BR BP Cube Broxton
ESPN BR BP Cube DeWitt
ESPN BR BP Cube Ethier
ESPN BR BP Cube Furcal
ESPN BR BP Cube Garciaparra
ESPN BR BP Cube Hu
ESPN BR BP Cube Jones
ESPN BR BP Cube Kemp
ESPN BR BP Cube Kent
ESPN BR BP Cube Kuo
ESPN BR BP Cube Kuroda
ESPN BR BP Cube LaRoche
ESPN BR BP Cube Loaiza
ESPN BR BP Cube Loney
ESPN BR BP Cube Lowe
ESPN BR BP Cube Martin
ESPN BR BP Cube May
ESPN BR BP Cube McDonald
ESPN BR BP Cube Meloan
ESPN BR BP Cube Miller
ESPN BR BP Cube Orenduff
ESPN BR BP Cube Park
ESPN BR BP Cube Paul
ESPN BR BP Cube Penny
ESPN BR BP Cube Pierre
ESPN BR BP Cube Proctor
ESPN BR BP Cube Repko
ESPN BR BP Cube Saito
ESPN BR BP Cube Schmidt
ESPN BR BP Cube Stults
ESPN BR BP Cube Sweeney
ESPN BR BP Cube Troncoso
ESPN BR BP Cube Wade
ESPN BR BP Cube Young

Selected Recent Ex-Dodgers

ESPN BR BP Cube Alomar
ESPN BR BP Cube Alvarez
ESPN BR BP Cube Aybar
ESPN BR BP Cube Baez
ESPN BR BP Cube Bako
ESPN BR BP Cube Beltre
ESPN BR BP Cube Bradley
ESPN BR BP Cube Cabrera
ESPN BR BP Cube Carrara
ESPN BR BP Cube Carter
ESPN BR BP Cube Chen
ESPN BR BP Cube Choi
ESPN BR BP Cube Cora
ESPN BR BP Cube Crosby
ESPN BR BP Cube Cruz
ESPN BR BP Cube Dessens
ESPN BR BP Cube Dreifort
ESPN BR BP Cube Drew
ESPN BR BP Cube Encarnacion
ESPN BR BP Cube Edwards
ESPN BR BP Cube Erickson
ESPN BR BP Cube Falkenborg
ESPN BR BP Cube Finley
ESPN BR BP Cube Flores
ESPN BR BP Cube Gagne
ESPN BR BP Cube Grabowski
ESPN BR BP Cube Green
ESPN BR BP Cube Guzman
ESPN BR BP Cube Hanrahan
ESPN BR BP Cube Hernandez
ESPN BR BP Cube Hundley
ESPN BR BP Cube Ishii
ESPN BR BP Cube Izturis
ESPN BR BP Cube Jackson
ESPN BR BP Cube Karros
ESPN BR BP Cube Ketchner
ESPN BR BP Cube Ledee
ESPN BR BP Cube Lima
ESPN BR BP Cube Lo Duca
ESPN BR BP Cube Lofton
ESPN BR BP Cube T. Martin
ESPN BR BP Cube Mayne
ESPN BR BP Cube G. Mota
ESPN BR BP Cube Mueller
ESPN BR BP Cube Myrow
ESPN BR BP Cube Nakamura
ESPN BR BP Cube Navarro
ESPN BR BP Cube Nomo
ESPN BR BP Cube Osoria
ESPN BR BP Cube A. Perez
ESPN BR BP Cube O. Perez
ESPN BR BP Cube Phillips
ESPN BR BP Cube Proctor
ESPN BR BP Cube Roberts
ESPN BR BP Cube Robles
ESPN BR BP Cube Romano
ESPN BR BP Cube C. Ross
ESPN BR BP Cube D. Ross
ESPN BR BP Cube Sanchez
ESPN BR BP Cube Schmoll
ESPN BR BP Cube Sele
ESPN BR BP Cube Seo
ESPN BR BP Cube Shuey
ESPN BR BP Cube Stanley
ESPN BR BP Cube S. Stewart
ESPN BR BP Cube Thompson
ESPN BR BP Cube Thurston
ESPN BR BP Cube Valentin
ESPN BR BP Cube Venafro
ESPN BR BP Cube Ventura
ESPN BR BP Cube Weaver
ESPN BR BP Cube Werth
ESPN BR BP Cube Wilson
ESPN BR BP Cube Wunsch

Dodger Thoughts Land
Thank You For Not ...

1) using profanity or any euphemisms for profanity
2) personally attacking other commenters
3) baiting other commenters
4) arguing for the sake of arguing
5) discussing politics
6) using hyperbole when something less will suffice
7) using sarcasm in a way that can be misinterpreted negatively
8) making the same point over and over again
9) typing "no-hitter" or "perfect game" to describe either in progress
10) being annoyed by the existence of this list
11) commenting under the obvious influence
12) claiming your opinion isn't allowed when it's just being disagreed with

Syndication

rss2.0

Add to My Yahoo!
Dodger Pitching in Three Parts
2008-07-03 14:07
by Jon Weisman

  • April 1-April 16: 15 games, 131 innings, 102 strikeouts, .656 OPS allowed, 3.23 ERA
  • April 18-May 19: 29 games, 258 innings, 197 strikeouts, .758 OPS allowed, 4.64 ERA
  • May 20-July 3: 41 games, 364 1/3 innings, 322 strikeouts, .669 OPS allowed (through Wednesday), 3.16 ERA

    Update: Chad Billingsley now has a lower ERA this season (3.12) than Brandon Webb. Among NL West pitchers, only Tim Lincecum and Dan Haren are better than, as Dodger Thoughts commenter Nate Purcell (and before that, commenter Sporky!) calls him, "His Royal Thighness."

  • Advertisement
    Comments (308)
    Show/Hide Comments 1-50
    2008-07-03 14:16:18
    1.   Linkmeister
    I can haz chart for hitting for same periods? ;)
    2008-07-03 14:16:18
    2.   Dodgers49
    From a previous thread:

    143 I dont know what Colletti was thinking with Berroa, should've just called up trusty Ramon Martinez. Thats a name I haven't heard, probably becacuse I missed someone's post or because theres an impending rebuttal of which the details I am aware of, but the point is it was another frantic move from our frantic GM.

    Ramon Martinez is one of Ned's favorite players. However, he had the misfortune to be on the Las Vegas DL when Ned signed Berroa. Ramon has been back in the Las Vegas lineup for more than a week now so that should make it easier for Ned to part with Berroa.

    2008-07-03 14:19:06
    3.   Jon Weisman
    5-0 Arizona.
    2008-07-03 14:19:15
    4.   Bob Timmermann
    The Brewers just got a 2-run homer on a foul ball by Bill Hall.

    5-0 Milwaukee.

    2008-07-03 14:20:15
    5.   natepurcell
    3 words...

    His Royal Thighness.

    2008-07-03 14:20:26
    6.   Bob Timmermann
    The umpires ruled that the ball scraped the foul pole.
    2008-07-03 14:22:51
    7.   Tripon
    Don't you mean 5-0 Brewers?
    2008-07-03 14:23:30
    8.   Jim Hitchcock
    1 Huh?
    2008-07-03 14:23:33
    9.   LAbits
    3 Psych?
    2008-07-03 14:24:16
    10.   Jim Hitchcock
    Just kidding, Link. How's the Rickenbacker?
    2008-07-03 14:24:50
    11.   Jon Weisman
    7 - I was giving the runs-allowed score. :)

    I mean, yes. 5-0 Brewers.

    2008-07-03 14:27:58
    12.   ToyCannon
    389
    Yup, back then I loved ESPN and I loved those spots.
    2008-07-03 14:29:01
    13.   Ken Noe
    5-0 Hawaii.
    2008-07-03 14:29:35
    14.   LAbits
    At least Jones & Garciaparra had some positive results at AAA rehab (from ESPN):

    Garciaparra went 5-for-8 with an RBI and Jones was 4-for-8 with a homer and three RBIs this week with Las Vegas.

    No guarantees of performance from that report, but a lot better than hearing they had 0-3 and left the game after 5 innings.

    2008-07-03 14:29:49
    15.   Greg Brock
    Being in first place with a record under .500 would be an empty experience.

    But as empty experiences go, it's one of the best.

    2008-07-03 14:32:07
    16.   Linkmeister
    10 I couldn't convert offensive hitting statistics into LOLCat-speak.

    The Rick is fine. The Pignose amp is dead, but after 30 years that's not surprising.

    2008-07-03 14:32:30
    17.   Marty
    I'm rather fond of empty experiences
    2008-07-03 14:33:35
    18.   Marty
    16 I have a friend who sells pignose amps to music stores. I have no idea if his prices are good.
    2008-07-03 14:36:54
    19.   Dane Bramage
    16 Any time someone says "Rickenbacker" It conjures up a mental image of Chris Squire...
    2008-07-03 14:42:59
    20.   Greg Brock
    Rock and roll classic on The Griddle!

    Not sure what color that alert would be. Fuchsia, maybe?

    2008-07-03 14:44:51
    21.   Linkmeister
    19 I think of Tom Petty myself. Or maybe Roger McGuinn ;)
    2008-07-03 14:44:57
    22.   Jim Hitchcock
    16 That's what you get for not buying the extended warranty ;)
    2008-07-03 14:47:22
    23.   Jim Hitchcock
    21 I saw McGuinn once.`So You Want To Be a Rock & Roll star' is the second best song where wearing sunglasses is mandatory.
    2008-07-03 14:47:35
    24.   68elcamino427
    Onward to the slightly less modest four game winning streak. This line-up is scoring some runs.
    2008-07-03 14:55:11
    25.   scareduck
    To answer your question from the other thread, Jon,

    1) The Dodgers' front office seems to have trouble discerning good players from bad.
    2) This has translated into lost opportunities for the team.
    3) Frank McCourt does not seem to understand the connection between his actions and the way the team is failing.

    So yes, I haven't been very enthusiastic about the Dodgers of late. But that said, even the littlest spark of life is cause for some hope.

    2008-07-03 15:00:22
    26.   overkill94
    Argh, a guy in my NL-only league was trying to get rid of Manny Parra earlier in the year and I threw him a couple offers but he didn't bite. Since then his ERA must be somewhere around 2 since it was close to 6 at that time.

    At least I own His Royal Thighness :)

    2008-07-03 15:04:46
    27.   sporky
    0 Ahem!

    http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/1025456.html#59

    http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/1025456.html#77

    2008-07-03 15:06:06
    28.   bigcpa
    Dodger season in 3 parts:

    March 31-April 4: 3-1 (Pierre benched)
    April 5- June 29: 35-42
    June 30- July 3: 3-1 (Pierre DL)

    Torre: "About half the month of April and right through the month of June he's been really great, and I can't ignore what a difference he's made."

    2008-07-03 15:08:12
    29.   fanerman
    27 I take some credit for inspiring sporky!
    2008-07-03 15:09:03
    30.   Jon Weisman
    27 - Whoops!
    2008-07-03 15:09:56
    31.   Jon Weisman
    29 - Okay, I'm only making a fix at most one more time, so get your stories straight :)
    2008-07-03 15:11:13
    32.   sporky
    29 Chad's pitching, too!
    2008-07-03 15:13:46
    33.   Xeifrank
    If the DBacks go on to lose and the Giants win, then the Dodgers and Giants will be battling friday with the Dodgers only a half game out and the Giants only 4 games out. I hope the Dodgers don't take the Giants too lightly. They will be especially tough to beat on friday (vs Sanchez) and sunday (vs Cain). Giants fans will be psyched for this series as they have a golden opportunity to get within striking distance of the top. I hope Andruw and Nomar come off the DL ready to fill that black hole.
    vr, Xei
    2008-07-03 15:15:18
    34.   natepurcell
    Diamond with some tidbits

    -Withrow is at Inland Empire working with Charlie Hough. He hasn't pitched professionally yet because he has a tender elbow.

    -Dodgers signed Melvin Ray.

    2008-07-03 15:16:01
    35.   Jon Weisman
    If you read Diamond's latest, Kent is getting a little slap-happy.

    http://www.beloblog.com/Pe_Blogs/prosports/2008/07/dodgers-kent-doing-just-fine.html

    2008-07-03 15:20:10
    36.   The Trolley Dodger
    35 I think the humidity was getting to him.
    2008-07-03 15:20:26
    37.   Jon Weisman
    In 83 1/3 innings since April 30, Billingsley's ERA is 2.27.
    2008-07-03 15:20:28
    38.   natepurcell
    Asked about the game James Loney had, Kent said, "James is a wild bird."

    what does this mean in non PVL talk?

    2008-07-03 15:21:11
    39.   sporky
    35 Asked about the game James Loney had, Kent said, "James is a wild bird."

    A wild bird?

    2008-07-03 15:22:38
    40.   Jim Hitchcock
    35 That interview and the way Kent talked to Kershaw the other night seem to show a more relaxed version of the PVL.
    2008-07-03 15:23:43
    41.   sporky
    Panic in Arizona.
    2008-07-03 15:24:08
    42.   fanerman
    32 I, uh, don't follow.

    31 sporky can take all the credit. I'll just keep calling him Chadwick because Chad has got to be short for something.

    2008-07-03 15:24:41
    43.   Alex41592
    It was 5-0 Brewers but a bases clearing double by Tracy has closed the gap. 5-3 Brewers Bot 9 runner at 2nd and nobody out.
    2008-07-03 15:25:17
    44.   68elcamino427
    #7 Wild Bird
    2008-07-03 15:25:31
    45.   Xeifrank
    Wild bird? Sounds like hunting talk to me. Old man Kent is singing like a canary. A wild canary!
    vr, Xei
    2008-07-03 15:25:59
    46.   sporky
    42 His pitching is inspirational.

    Er, never mind.

    2008-07-03 15:27:14
    47.   Alex41592
    Base hit Upton 1st and 3rd and nobody out.
    2008-07-03 15:27:24
    48.   Gagne55
    Brewers are having a Carter/Baez moment.
    2008-07-03 15:28:30
    49.   Jon Weisman
    Oh my.
    2008-07-03 15:28:31
    50.   Alex41592
    Double down the line. Upton stops at third on his own. 5-4 Brewers and nobody out runners at 2nd and 3rd.
    Show/Hide Comments 51-100
    2008-07-03 15:28:44
    51.   Jim Hitchcock
    RIP Larry Harmon, better known to the world as `Bozo the Clown'.

    When I was six or seven, I was picked out of the audience to be one of three kids to try and hit a badminton birdie into a barrel to win a really cool bike.

    Bozo: "Where you from, little Jimmy"?

    Me blinking, uh, uh, looking in panic at my Mom, who mouths `Westchester'! "Westchester", I say.

    I then take studied aim, brow furrowed, and then let fly.

    And damned if that birdie didn't bounce off the rim of that barrel before bouncing out.

    2008-07-03 15:28:48
    52.   Gagne55
    Tying and winning runs in scoring position. None out.
    2008-07-03 15:29:09
    53.   Alex41592
    They are not walking Jackson even though his run is useless.
    2008-07-03 15:30:18
    54.   Bob Timmermann
    51
    I hope that did not send you on to a life of unfulfilled expectations.
    2008-07-03 15:30:53
    55.   Bob Timmermann
    "None out when winning run scored"
    2008-07-03 15:31:22
    56.   Jon Weisman
    Well, score one for the NL West.
    2008-07-03 15:31:31
    57.   Alex41592
    Deficit stays at 1 1/2. D'Backs win.
    2008-07-03 15:31:38
    58.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
    From my office in Mesa, Ariz., I am agog.
    My co-workers are delighted.
    2008-07-03 15:32:10
    59.   natepurcell
    Brewers bullpen is absolutely horrible.
    2008-07-03 15:32:21
    60.   sporky
    Oh, Guillermo.
    2008-07-03 15:32:23
    61.   Jim Hitchcock
    54 Still dealing with it...;)
    2008-07-03 15:32:47
    62.   Xeifrank
    Nice comeback by Zona. 6 hits, 1 walk, no outs made in the 9th to win it. The Brewers pen pitched like a wet bird!
    vr, Xei
    2008-07-03 15:34:09
    63.   silverwidow
    Lincecum and H.R. Thighness = Best young pitchers in the NL
    2008-07-03 15:34:38
    64.   Gagne55
    Well, so much for the Diamondbacks poor play of late.
    2008-07-03 15:34:49
    65.   Nagman
    62 They beat the win-expectancy odds.
    2008-07-03 15:36:06
    66.   sporky
    At least my ear blister is gone.
    2008-07-03 15:37:21
    67.   fanerman
    Like Indiana Jones, I hate snakes.
    2008-07-03 15:39:31
    68.   Xeifrank
    62. Yes! Amazingly, Zona was down to a 0.6% win expectancy at one point. Good for them, bad for us. :)
    vr, Xei
    2008-07-03 15:41:29
    69.   El Lay Dave
    29 Then I have to claim the merest wisp of credit for inspiring you fanerman:

    http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/976444.html#16
    http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/976444.html#25

    2008-07-03 15:52:08
    70.   nofatmike
    59 I think a trade for Guo would look very tempting for the Brew Crew right now.
    2008-07-03 15:54:35
    71.   Xeifrank
    70. He is good enough to be the closer (top bullpen pitcher) on half the MLB teams. As long as his arm didn't fall off.
    vr, Xei
    2008-07-03 15:54:49
    72.   LoneStar7
    was jeff interviewed on t.v./radio? or was this in diamond or something..

    Wild Bird is pretty sweet by the way, we'd now have the bison, (blue ox/bull), a rabbit(while on base) other wise known as slappy, and wild bird

    2008-07-03 15:55:13
    73.   silverwidow
    70 Guo for Alcides Escobar!
    2008-07-03 15:56:40
    74.   natepurcell
    70

    I wonder what they are going to do with Matt Gamel. He's listed as a 3b but I don't think there is any way he can play 3b in the pros- he is kind of like Braun in that aspect.

    2008-07-03 15:57:31
    75.   MonkeyBlue
    OMG I can't believe the Brewers blow it.
    2008-07-03 15:57:59
    76.   Gen3Blue
    I don't know if I'm late here, but on Sports Center just now, they were disscussing trades, especially relevant to Yankees, Sox, and Rays and they brought up Sabbathia. Some idiot said he would probably end up with the Dodgers because they desperately need pitching. How do these people get a voice, and why would anyone listen?
    2008-07-03 16:00:20
    77.   LoneStar7
    76 yea i just saw that as well, i think it was tim kurkjian
    2008-07-03 16:00:50
    78.   MonkeyBlue
    76. Yeah I don't go to ESPN with anything about West. I go for the highlights, but they fail at that too.
    2008-07-03 16:01:26
    79.   Marty
    I have a friend who was very close to becoming the Chicago Bozo in the 1980s.
    2008-07-03 16:01:57
    80.   Xeifrank
    I updated my in-season Dodger WAR (wins above replacement) calculations, taking current stat lines and projecting them out over a full season.

    WAR-Leaders
    1. Billingsley 3.57
    2. Lowe 3.16
    3. Guo 2.88
    4. Saito 2.85
    5. Stults 1.56
    6. Kuroda 1.52
    7. Beimel 1.49
    8. Wade 0.91
    9. Penny 0.72
    10. Kershaw 0.66
    -----------------
    FIP-ERA Leaders
    1. Saito 1.77
    2. Guo 2.11
    3. Broxton 2.63
    4. Troncoso 2.84
    5. Beimel 2.97
    6. Billingsley 3.36
    7. Stults 3.50
    8. Wade 3.56
    9. Lowe 3.68
    10. Kuroda 4.31

    vr, Xei

    2008-07-03 16:04:14
    81.   Eric Enders
    Headline on Yahoo: "Kershaw demoted, seeks comfort in O'Doul's"
    2008-07-03 16:05:36
    82.   Nagman
    76 Maybe they've been talking to Ned.
    2008-07-03 16:06:48
    83.   nofatmike
    73 I was thinking more of the lines of resolving the SS crisis with Bill Hall, but I like the train of though in 74 .
    2008-07-03 16:07:09
    84.   nofatmike
    83 thought*
    2008-07-03 16:07:23
    85.   gpellamjr
    76 Well, as everybody knows, starting pitching is the most important part of the pitching staff.
    2008-07-03 16:17:25
    86.   Gen3Blue
    re 76 I have to add two details. That Tim K. or whoever, said that without Furcal the D's knew the only path could be pitching( not a solid argument) and he mentioned the Indians could use a handful of young Dodger talent, and seemed to be drooling on the desk.
    2008-07-03 16:17:35
    87.   fanerman
    69 Oh of course. I certainly didn't come up with that on my own.
    2008-07-03 16:19:32
    88.   Gen3Blue
    80 Good summary. That is quite impressive.
    2008-07-03 16:25:56
    89.   KG16
    I really, really hope that Ned toes the line from here to the trade deadline. Any team that is considering going to a six man rotation doesn't have to worry about getting more pitching, it has enough.

    I'm not even sure that there's a short stop out there that I'd want as a warm body through September. Let it ride with the team you've got.

    2008-07-03 16:26:56
    90.   KG16
    And besides, if the Dodgers are going to trade for a starter, why not Halladay?
    2008-07-03 16:28:19
    91.   LoneStar7
    so is it confirmed that nomar will start at SS..6-4-2 says so at least
    2008-07-03 16:28:22
    92.   MonkeyBlue
    I can't help, but to think the D. Backs win today can really boost the morale of the young players. I can't help but I think they about to go on a winning streak.
    2008-07-03 16:31:10
    93.   Jon Weisman
    Folks, the idea that one big victory is a sign of a winning streak is something you need to just let go of, whether it's the Dodgers or the Diamondbacks.

    One of my favorite things I wrote in Dodger Thoughts' early days was that you'll know your team has turned things around when you stop wondering if something could be the sign of a turnaround.

    2008-07-03 16:31:44
    94.   JoeyP
    I doubt the outcome of 1 game will do much for confidence.

    They really need to get Justin Upton going again. He's been one of the worst players in the majors since the beginning of May.

    2008-07-03 16:37:02
    95.   fanerman
    I'm still in disbelief that the snakes won that game.
    2008-07-03 16:37:59
    96.   Suffering Bruin
    51 That's great stuff there. Bozo the Clown. I had no idea he was still alive. RIP.
    2008-07-03 16:38:38
    97.   Jim Hitchcock
    91 It was in the Times, also.

    93 Perfect.

    2008-07-03 16:38:41
    98.   KG16
    93 - "you won today, and you won yesterday, if you win tomorrow, that's called a streak."

    The big win can have an impact on the team's psyche, same thing for the tough loss. The game's not all physical, the psychology of it matters... a big win, particularly like the snakes had today is the sort of thing that can lead to guys seeing beach balls coming from the pitcher rather than bbs.

    2008-07-03 16:42:17
    99.   sporky
    If the Dodgers won multiple games after one of their 'impressive' win, I would be a significantly happier fan.

    Maybe the ear blister had psychosomatic roots.

    2008-07-03 16:42:42
    100.   Physics DR
    Winning streak

    As Casey use to say "I want to get 20 games over 500 and then go on a long winning streak"

    Show/Hide Comments 101-150
    2008-07-03 16:47:45
    101.   ToyCannon
    93
    Orel thinks different. Do we have to give it up if we believe it and you don't?
    2008-07-03 16:49:03
    102.   Bob Hendley
    I don't know about this pyche stuff. When we were all complaining after the first game about the lack of run scoring, we did after all get eleven hits against (mostly) one of the better Stros' starters and they had to go into the bull pen. Not a bad way to start the series, even though we lost the game.
    2008-07-03 16:50:37
    103.   KG16
    102 - I'm not saying it always has the same effect, just that it can affect a team, or an individual. Human experience and all that
    2008-07-03 16:53:21
    104.   ToyCannon
    It may or may not lead to wins but it should change the mindset that when down by 5 runs anything can happen. For a team in the kind of rut like the Diamondbacks were, I would think a win like that is huge for them.
    Not sure why I'm not supposed to believe a game like baseball does not have all sorts of psych issues. Everyone who has ever played the game at this high level has maintained that confidence is a very important part of their success. Are they all wrong and only those who have played the game as a game are right?
    2008-07-03 16:53:23
    105.   Gen3Blue
    I may be mixing unrelated things, but isn't there someone in the last few Posts who could easily inherit the name "Bozo"?

    And I have to admit, I vaguelly remember the Bozo Era.

    2008-07-03 16:55:30
    106.   ToyCannon
    Everyone have a safe fourth and if your in a boat make sure your pilot is sober. Watching someone lose their limbs is not something you want to live with or make them live with.
    2008-07-03 16:58:35
    107.   Jim Hitchcock
    106 And don't toss firecrackers at the kids, no matter how annoying they get!
    2008-07-03 17:05:38
    108.   Eric Enders
    Vince Coleman wants no part of this silly holiday where you can't toss firecrackers at kids.
    2008-07-03 17:07:08
    109.   Jon Weisman
    98 - It can have that impact, but often does not, and whether it will is entirely speculative.

    Toy, I get the feeling you think I'm raining on parades lately. I didn't tell anyone in 93 that they had to surrender their beliefs on my account. I was just expressing my opinion, same as everyone else. And I don't know why you suggest that I don't think the mental aspect plays no role in baseball.

    Sure, today's game will remind the Dbacks that anything is possible. But I'm not sure how much their next opponent will care, and an Arizona win streak could come for any number of reasons. I don't think that makes me a robot killjoy.

    2008-07-03 17:10:41
    110.   Jon Weisman
    109 - should be "plays a role"
    2008-07-03 17:14:22
    111.   ToyCannon
    109
    I don't want to be combative with my favorite writer but this line
    "Folks, the idea that one big victory is a sign of a winning streak is something you need to just let go of" did bug me and before I could control my edit button I wrote the response.

    I've just never been comfortable with anyone telling me what to do even if I agree with them. I think I have what people call a combative posture.

    My apologies as I know what you meant but still felt the need to respond.

    2008-07-03 17:17:38
    112.   Bob Hendley
    KG. I was commenting, I think, more on the mental state of the DTistas following the first game of this series. There seemed to be as well some lingering pessimism after the Angel series, even though we took 2 out of 3.
    2008-07-03 17:19:43
    113.   Marty
    111 You need to stop doing that.
    2008-07-03 17:20:48
    114.   Jon Weisman
    111 - You're right, that phrase was a bit much, but it wasn't like I was saying that the win today was irrelevant. So we both messed up. My apologies as well.
    2008-07-03 17:21:04
    115.   Marty
    And don't toss firecrackers at the kids, no matter how annoying they get!

    Do bottle rockets count?

    2008-07-03 17:26:49
    116.   Bob Hendley
    105 - Bozo, from the Spanish vosotros. We are all bozos on this bus (FST).
    2008-07-03 17:30:29
    117.   ToyCannon
    I've never liked clowns. They irritate me.
    2008-07-03 17:45:32
    118.   Jimi Shelter
    19. And I see the Byrds, the Beatles and that great "Maximum R&B" poster of The Who.

    I used to have a Rick blonde 360-12 and a sunburst 360, but I sold them. It's a PRS or a Strat for me now.

    2008-07-03 17:49:09
    119.   Gen3Blue
    116 Yes we are--and don't crush that dwarf.

    117 I agree, have you ever read S. Kings IT?

    2008-07-03 17:55:01
    120.   ToyCannon
    119
    You bet, but I think I didn't like clowns the first time I saw Bozo on TV long before IT. I really liked IT, I was a big S King reader 20 years ago but I stopped in the middle of the Dark Tower series and haven't read anything by him since.
    2008-07-03 17:56:37
    121.   Bob Timmermann
    Arizona will more likely gain momentum from today's win because Haren is pitching tomorrow and they're hosting the Padres.

    On 8/21/1990, the Dodgers gave up 9 in the 9th to the Phillies and lost 12-11. The next day, the Dodgers won 3-2.

    But such was the power of Jim Neidlinger.

    2008-07-03 18:01:06
    122.   Gen3Blue
    As long as it wasn't the power of Niedenfuer!
    2008-07-03 18:07:06
    123.   CanuckDodger
    DeJesus isn't playing in tonight's Jacksonville Suns' game. Any significance to that, I wonder?
    2008-07-03 18:33:41
    124.   Dodgers49
    Kershaw headed back to the Suns

    >> In Wednesday's doubleheader split with the Carolina Mudcats, the Suns received another solid outing from left-hander Scott Elbert, who allowed one run on two hits in three innings in the second game. <<

    http://tinyurl.com/5enkpb

    2008-07-03 18:39:26
    125.   Dodgers49
    51s' Jones picks up where he left off last year

    >> Despite putting up some impressive numbers in the minor leagues -- including 129 homers and 405 RBIs in parts of the last five seasons -- the 30-year-old Jones, a four-time minor league All-Star, is still waiting for his first call to the majors. <<

    http://www.lvrj.com/sports/22854564.html