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LaRoche Would Gladly Pay You Tuesday for a Chance To Play Today
2008-07-06 08:11
by Jon Weisman

Andy LaRoche has 40 plate appearances in the 23 games the Dodgers have played since his callup. Twice, he has started a season-high two games in a row. Each game he has homered in, he has been benched the following day.

He has a .791 OPS as a starter despite batting .174 on balls in play - he has struck out only four times. So he has been relatively successful as a starter. Beyond that, the complaints that he doesn't get a fair chance to play, to get in a groove, are legitimate.

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2008-07-06 08:15:51
1.   D4P
I looked at Andy's Fangraphs stuff yesterday and the thing that definitely stood out was the BABIP. Everything else (BBs, Ks, Isos, etc.) looked really good.
2008-07-06 08:17:55
2.   D4P
It will be pretty crazy if Nadal beats Federer in straight sets at both the French and Wimbledon.
2008-07-06 08:20:51
3.   raygu
Just this morning I emailed Tony Jackson asking why Laroche isn't playing more. This after Torre said, when Laroche was called up, that he would play alot. He has 40 plate appearances since his June 10th call-up....40. Torre is not one to believe when he says something. Ridiculous.
2008-07-06 08:21:33
4.   tjdub
It would be a shame if a twisted knee had an impact on the outcome.
2008-07-06 08:22:30
5.   D4P
Only a twisted knee can save Federer now.
2008-07-06 08:31:48
6.   goofus
We are all living in fear of a trade that will harm our team. Why don't we start advocating, pulling for, emailing everyone we can about a trade that will have positive effects on our team? And here it is: Let's trade Torre to the Yankees for Girardi! Torre would take it in a heartbeat because all he wants is to be on TV and in the papers every day, he knows he made a mistake coming here. And the Steinbrenners are just crazy enough to make the trade too. If they want to throw in GMs, well, anybody here going to complain? I know some of you here have Industry contacts, start pushing this...
2008-07-06 08:38:10
7.   D4P
Break point chances:

Federer 1/11
Nadal 3/4

This happens pretty much every time they play. Nadal is tougher on the "big points".

2008-07-06 08:38:56
8.   Eric Enders
The grass is always greener. If we had Girardi, we'd find things to hate about him just as we did with Torre.

I dislike Torre's managerial moves as much as the next guy. But there are relatively few managers who the DT crowd would like better, once they got to know them. Manny Acta. Jim Leyland. Maybe Joe Maddon. That's about it.

2008-07-06 08:39:21
9.   Bob Timmermann
7
Must ... not .... make .... banned ... statement
2008-07-06 08:41:18
10.   D4P
But there are relatively few managers who the DT crowd would like better, once they got to know them

Same could probably be said about general managers as well.

Must ... not .... make .... banned ... statement

Rule 8 (and her implicit variations) is a harsh mistress.

2008-07-06 08:46:15
11.   Bob Timmermann
8
I think we'd all enjoy hanging out with Bobby Cox and Lou Piniella.

Ozzie Guillen would be the best.

2008-07-06 08:50:50
12.   D4P
Federer wins 5 games in a set...!
2008-07-06 08:51:31
13.   D4P
11
Yeah. Kicking back with Sweet Lou, knocking down a couple bottled waters...
2008-07-06 08:56:09
14.   Bob Hendley
OK, well let's get started. Is Druw sitting today, or is Torre going to wheel him out there until our eyes bleed?
2008-07-06 08:57:11
15.   Bob Timmermann
Torre said on Friday that Nomar and Andruw wouldn't play today.
2008-07-06 08:58:44
16.   Marty
Torre has changed his mind before.
2008-07-06 09:05:11
17.   underdog
6 Are you kidding? Girardi would be just as maddening or even more maddening. Just ask our friends over at Bronx Banter, or my dad, or my friends who are Yankees fans. Seriously, I'd rather have Torre frankly. We could do better, we could do worse. As Eric says, the grass is greener...
Plus as we'd discussed here before when have the Dodgers had a manager everyone thought was perfect or close to it? Well, there was... Er, how about... Uh, well there was that guy... No, I can't think of anyone in my entire lifetime.

Anyway, hope for the best.

I'm hoping for the best today, will be driving back home so I'll have to wait til tonight to watch it. C'mon, boys, let's get 2 outta 3!

2008-07-06 09:05:51
18.   Marty
With Firefox 3, anyone found anything similar to linkification? That's what I miss most.
2008-07-06 09:07:38
19.   blue22
18 - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/190 ?
2008-07-06 09:10:57
20.   PalmdaleSteve1
15 Andruw not playing today, heavens to murgatroid who will provide the offensive punch the Dodgers are missing...or not.
2008-07-06 09:13:23
21.   blue22
18 - I use 2.0 at home, but it says it works for 3.0 now. Sweet tool, especially for the comments here.
2008-07-06 09:17:09
22.   Bob Timmermann
I put Linkification on my computer at work, but have yet to try it out.

My home computer hasn't had Firefox upgraded.

2008-07-06 09:21:19
23.   Bob Hendley
20 - With Pee Wee at .421 OBP as a pinch hitter (sorry, make that .344 BA), I am sure that Torre is tempted to sit him as well.
2008-07-06 09:27:04
24.   Bumsrap
Maybe LaRoche can add catcher to his utilitiness.
2008-07-06 09:36:24
25.   regfairfield
23 Wouldn't that make him more valuable off the bench? Considering how bad his overall numbers are, he must be terrible as a starter.
2008-07-06 09:42:00
26.   Marty
OF course, as soon as I ask the linkification question, it shows that there is a new version on my add-ons list.
2008-07-06 09:54:57
27.   jasonungar07
One of us needs to go undercover and find out what's going on. Like why do they hate Kemp and LaRoache so much?
2008-07-06 09:57:14
28.   Jon Weisman
27 - I think hate's too strong a word, but what's the mystery? It's been said over and over again that they don't like how certain Dodgers do the little things and heed instruction.

Kemp does play everyday, nonetheless.

2008-07-06 10:01:28
29.   Suffering Bruin
Fact de LaRoche... Fact of Andy...

It's calling me and I don't know why. This voice in my head...

Anywho, count me in on those who think LaRoche should be a starter and the All-American kid who hustles and bustles should do so from the bench.

2008-07-06 10:01:29
30.   Bob Timmermann
It would be nice for a Dodgers hitter to actually do the "big thing." You know, something like, hit a home run.

Even a triple is OK.

2008-07-06 10:03:34
31.   D4P
Our GM doesn't build a team around the "big thing".
2008-07-06 10:05:07
32.   Bob Timmermann
For some reason, I have become extremely cynical and sarcastic in the month of July. I think the trip to Cleveland has had that effect on me.
2008-07-06 10:05:40
33.   Marty
It just seems like if you could perfect hitting a grounder to second, you'd have a long career in this league.
2008-07-06 10:06:36
34.   D4P
32
I had noticed that. I like it.
2008-07-06 10:07:20
35.   jasonungar07
Much to strong, meant it more as "slang" than than actual hate. Forget I am writing sometimes! Kemp does play daily but others point out the smear campaign. And with Andy, your post says it all.
2008-07-06 10:09:20
36.   jasonungar07
32 I love it when Bob (or Jon) get a little on edge. When you stoop down to our level some. LOL

33 LOL

2008-07-06 10:12:52
37.   Bob Timmermann
I think it was the trip to Cleveland COMBINED with the Plaschke Angels/Dodgers column that have sent me down a dark path.

And I don't know if there's any turning back. There better be a catcher's interference call sometime soon or else I'm going to end up changing my handle to A4J.

2008-07-06 10:15:31
38.   Bob Timmermann
Game on at Wimbledon.
2008-07-06 10:18:03
39.   Bob Timmermann
Do Federer and Nadal BOTH need a swoosh on their headbands AND their shirts?
2008-07-06 10:19:24
40.   Gagne55
32 It might have something to to with the Dodger's July record in 2002, 03, 05, and 06- not just poor, but atrocious records four of the last seven years in July.
2008-07-06 10:20:52
41.   Daniel Zappala
37 You need some rhubarb pie.
2008-07-06 10:21:57
42.   Bob Timmermann
41
I hate rhubarb! Perhaps my grandma shouldn't have put the leaves into the pie.
2008-07-06 10:23:59
43.   Bob Timmermann
There goes McEnroe again. Always dumping on the Balearic Islands.
2008-07-06 10:24:57
44.   Gagne55
Make that four of the last six years. Though granted July wasn't much worse than the rest of the season in 2005, but it was still the worst month for the spectacularly bad team.
2008-07-06 10:29:32
45.   Bob Timmermann
As Shakespeare said, "July is the cruelest month."
2008-07-06 10:32:38
46.   D4P
Third set to Federer.
2008-07-06 10:34:48
47.   Daniel Zappala
45 Which is why I attend the Cedar City Shakespeare Festival. I'll be seeing Othello and Taming of the Shrew next week. I highly recommend driving out to Cedar City sometime. It' only 6 1/2 hours away!
2008-07-06 10:39:06
48.   Bob Timmermann
I've been to Cedar City before. My family and I tried to go to a Catholic Church there to go to Mass for the Feast of the Assumption.

The priest pretty much told us he could celebrate Mass whenever we were ready.

2008-07-06 10:40:04
49.   Reddog
If McCourt does fire Colletti after this season, would Kim Ng be an improvement? Any idea what kind of GM she would be?
2008-07-06 10:41:21
50.   Bob Timmermann
49
Any idea what kind of GM she would be?

Shorter.

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2008-07-06 10:45:40
51.   Greg Brock
The DT crowd would do backflips if Manny Acta was the manager.
2008-07-06 10:48:08
52.   Bob Timmermann
51
Metaphorical backflips. If I tried to do a real one, I believe I would end up having back surgery.

Or become a ward of the state.

2008-07-06 10:48:22
53.   LoneStar7
federer looks a little more locked in, a break would be huge because hes serving well now
2008-07-06 10:48:57
54.   D4P
Yeah, Federer's playing great, but it might be too late.
2008-07-06 10:49:47
55.   tjshere
26 Marty, if you use Cool Iris previews to go along with Linkification, I've found in Firefox 3 Cool Iris only works with genuine links and not linkified ones.

Uh, did that make sense?

2008-07-06 10:51:30
56.   LoneStar7
54 which is unfortunate because i really dont care for nadal
2008-07-06 10:53:52
57.   Bob Timmermann
56
10 out of 10 women I've surveyed say they care for Nadal.

A lot.

2008-07-06 10:54:01
58.   Reddog
I think the Dodgers should package LaRoche, Penny and Furcal for A-Rod.
2008-07-06 10:54:08
59.   das411
Is this going to be the Complain About All-Star Selections live thread?

Or do we Easties have a "no spoilers" rule in effect?

2008-07-06 10:55:52
60.   Bob Timmermann
I can set up a thread on the Griddle about it. But no one will go there.

The Dodgers fans will complain on their own and the Yankees fans will do the same.

I try to bring people together, but I often fail and just drive them further apart.

2008-07-06 10:56:19
61.   D4P
I've decided that I'm better off trying to like Nadal, since he's going to be winning a lot from here on out.
2008-07-06 10:59:21
62.   Alex41592
Ken Rosenthal has decided that we are out of the running for C.C Sabathia.

"The Los Angeles Dodgers are out of the running for C.C. Sabathia, according to a major-league source, an indication that the Milwaukee Brewers may be nearing a trade for the Indians' left hander."

Were we ever really in the running?

2008-07-06 10:59:22
63.   das411
Oh ok Bob, I'll just complain about all of the Dodgers and Yankees that get selected here then!
2008-07-06 11:02:17
64.   Greg Brock
62 I have come to absolutely loathe Ken Rosenthal.

I didn't hate him two years ago. It's been an evolution of sorts.

Absolutely loathe.

2008-07-06 11:03:13
65.   Bob Timmermann
62
Adding C.C. Sabathia would have been the equivalent of trying to save a plummeting aircraft by bailing water.
2008-07-06 11:04:20
66.   tjdub
62 Good.

47 I second that recommendation. My wife and I went 3 or 4 years ago and it was great.

2008-07-06 11:05:17
67.   Alex41592
A.L Starters:

Joe Mauer, C, Twins
Kevin Youkilis, 1B, Red Sox
Dustin Pedroia, 2B, Red Sox
Derek Jeter, SS, Yankees
Alex Rodriguez, 3B, Yankees
Josh Hamilton, OF, Rangers
Manny Ramirez, OF, Red Sox
Ichiro Suzuki, OF, Mariners
David Ortiz, DH, Red Sox (will not play)

2008-07-06 11:06:01
68.   KG16
From the All Star selection show: Manny Rameriz is like Willie Mays, he has to be in there, everyone wants to see him.
2008-07-06 11:07:54
69.   KG16
67 - Youkilis doesn't seem to fit on that line up.
2008-07-06 11:08:02
70.   Greg Brock
Funny how Eck called Youkilis a "grinder" considering he's pretty much the ideal stathead player.

See, nerdlingers and jockfaces can get along just dandy.

2008-07-06 11:08:50
71.   das411
Ahhh Eckersley, still soooo '80s, don't you ever change!

/insert obligatory 1988 reference here

2008-07-06 11:09:12
72.   tjdub
No Posada! No Matsui! No JD! I'm outraged! Who are these "Twins", Rangers" "Mariners"? I'm outraged!
2008-07-06 11:09:25
73.   D4P
Funny how Eck called Youkilis a "grinder" considering he's pretty much the ideal stathead player

That's just cause he's white.

2008-07-06 11:09:55
74.   LoneStar7
yaaaa, its not over yet come on roger
2008-07-06 11:10:51
75.   Greg Brock
73 It's a product of baseball's institutional preference toward Jewish athletes.
2008-07-06 11:12:11
76.   MC Safety
The "ballplayer" thing will never grow old. It's like a fine wine.
2008-07-06 11:12:59
77.   Reddog
Will the Dodgers lone rep be Martin or Billingsley?
2008-07-06 11:13:26
78.   Bob Timmermann
Joe Mauer! Representing the AL Central!

None of the division leaders in the AL has a starter. And the Rays may just end up with one selection, probably Kazmir.

The Angels will probably get Rodriguez and Saunders.

The White Sox will get Quentin and presumably someone else.

2008-07-06 11:13:47
79.   Icaros
I'm a big fan of the new Bob. Did he find his black Spiderman suit in Cleveland, or something?
2008-07-06 11:15:11
80.   Bob Timmermann
76
Let the record reflect that I had nothing to do with that ...
2008-07-06 11:16:10
81.   LoneStar7
I'm just gonna say it now, no matter how good he is...i can not support a screaming man in gauchos who picks his wedgie before every return of serve...i just cant

so come on roger

2008-07-06 11:16:53
82.   D4P
Nadal picks his wedgie on his own serve as well.
2008-07-06 11:18:00
83.   LoneStar7
oooooh what a point to start the breaker
2008-07-06 11:18:05
84.   D4P
Wow! Awesome point. This is great stuff. Both players at the top of their game.
2008-07-06 11:18:06
85.   Bob Timmermann
The first point of the tiebreaker was worth the price of admission.
2008-07-06 11:18:29
86.   KG16
Has Nadal beat Federer anywhere other than the French?
2008-07-06 11:18:40
87.   Greg Brock
I wonder who will play Josh Hamilton in the movie.
2008-07-06 11:18:48
88.   Alex41592
Chills on that first point.
2008-07-06 11:19:44
89.   D4P
Has Nadal beat Federer anywhere other than the French?

In non Grand Slams, yes. But not in a Grand Slam.

2008-07-06 11:20:05
90.   dzzrtRatt
19 Great news on linkification being updated.

It also works with Interclue, so you can see and read what the link links to in a window that floats over the page you're on. Made my laptop's day.

I still have that intermittent problem with certain windows refusing to go to new URLs, though.

2008-07-06 11:21:06
91.   KG16
89 - thanks, tennis is like golf, in that I only pay attention to grand slam events, and usually just the final
2008-07-06 11:22:15
92.   LoneStar7
that return should be the back breaker
2008-07-06 11:23:10
93.   Alex41592
N.L Starters:

Geovany Soto, C, Cubs
Lance Berkman, 1B, Astros
Chase Utley, 2B, Phillies
Hanley Ramirez, SS, Marlins
Chipper Jones, 3B, Braves
Ryan Braun, OF, Brewers
Alfonso Soriano, OF, Cubs (injured, may not play)
Kosuke Fukudome, OF, Cubs

2008-07-06 11:24:20
94.   KG16
93 - is Jones going to be back in time to play?
2008-07-06 11:24:42
95.   KG16
This Federer guy is pretty good.
2008-07-06 11:24:53
96.   LoneStar7
wow
2008-07-06 11:25:19
97.   Bob Timmermann
Chipper Jones is playing again.
2008-07-06 11:25:22
98.   Alex41592
94 - Chipper never left.
2008-07-06 11:26:18
99.   das411
Alfonso Soriano: overrated or massively overrated?
2008-07-06 11:27:17
100.   twerp
3, maybe others

"...after Torre said, when Laroche was called up, that he would play a lot. He has 40 plate appearances since his June 10th call-up....40. Torre is not one to believe when he says something."

Torre seems to have a style of talking. A lot. And changing his mind, or whatever. A lot.

What happened to the six-man rotation he announced a while back (beyond the obvious injuries since)? And Ethier won an outfield job in the spring, Torre said. Then what happened? There seem to be quite a few things like that.

Maybe it's a style of something for everyone. Talk a lot, say a lot about a lot of things, and maybe everyone's happy...sorta

Kind of like many politicians, which managers are to a degree...

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2008-07-06 11:27:44
101.   D4P
Championship point for Nadal.
2008-07-06 11:28:56
102.   Greg Brock
That passing shot was ridiculous.
2008-07-06 11:29:00
103.   Alex41592
What a shot by Nadal!
2008-07-06 11:29:13
104.   LoneStar7
well he certainly deserved it with a shot like that
2008-07-06 11:29:46
105.   Alex41592
Amazing.
2008-07-06 11:29:47
106.   Greg Brock
So was that one.
2008-07-06 11:30:20
107.   Bob Hendley
25 - "Wouldn't that make him more valuable off the bench? Considering how bad his overall numbers are, he must be terrible as a starter".

And yet, Pee Wee is still hitting better overall than those that have (JP) and will (AJ) start in front of him.

2008-07-06 11:30:40
108.   D4P
Now set point for Federer. Incredible tennis.
2008-07-06 11:30:42
109.   LoneStar7
oh my he never ceases to amaze
2008-07-06 11:31:14
110.   Alex41592
Five. We go to five.
2008-07-06 11:31:21
111.   Greg Brock
That double fault sealed the deal.

I think Federer will steamroll Nadal in the fifth. Book it.

2008-07-06 11:31:28
112.   LoneStar7
5th set wow
2008-07-06 11:31:47
113.   Icaros
For a second I thought Nadal was wearing capris.
2008-07-06 11:31:59
114.   D4P
FYI: There's no tiebreaker in the final set at Wimbledon, which on paper should favor Nadal.
2008-07-06 11:34:06
115.   Vishal
man, a fifth set should be good to watch, but i wanted it to end there in the 4th.
2008-07-06 11:34:08
116.   Bob Timmermann
There are no NL West All-Star starters. How can this be? It's the most competitive division in baseball!
2008-07-06 11:35:21
117.   LoneStar7
here we go, i feel like this may be an emotional roller coaster
2008-07-06 11:35:45
118.   Marty
It looks like Federer is playing against Johnny Drama.
2008-07-06 11:35:49
119.   Greg Brock
This is insanely good tennis being played.
2008-07-06 11:35:58
120.   KG16
116 - east coast bias
2008-07-06 11:36:17
121.   Alex41592
N.L Pitching:

Aaron Cook, Rockies
Tim Lincecum, Giants
Dan Haren, Diamondbacks
Ben Sheets, Brewers
Carlos Zambrano, Cubs
Brandon Webb, Diamondbacks
Ryan Dempster, Cubs
Brian Wilson, Giants
Edinson Volquez, Reds
Kerry Wood, Cubs
Brad Lidge, Phillies
Billy Wagner, Mets

2008-07-06 11:36:33
122.   Greg Brock
Little too clever by half, Roger.
2008-07-06 11:36:36
123.   Icaros
116

The NL West is having its own All-Star game in Buffalo. It's like sitting at the kids table.

2008-07-06 11:36:53
124.   KG16
good idea, poor execution.
2008-07-06 11:37:50
125.   KG16
121 - Saito and/or Billingsly should be on that list, no?
2008-07-06 11:39:05
126.   Alex41592
N.L Reserves:

Brian McCann, C, Braves
Aramis Ramirez, 3B, Cubs
Matt Holliday, OF, Rockies
Dan Uggla, 2B, Marlins
Miguel Tejada, SS, Astros
Russell Martin, C, Dodgers
Nate McLouth, OF, Pirates
Albert Pujols, 1B, Cardinals
Ryan Ludwick, OF, Cardinals
Adrian Gonzalez, 1B, Padres
Cristian Guzman, SS, Nationals

2008-07-06 11:39:08
127.   jasonungar07
Funny how we have the lowest team ERA in the NL with no All Stars.
2008-07-06 11:39:08
128.   das411
!!!! Cristian Guzman, NL All Star!
2008-07-06 11:40:26
129.   Greg Brock
We don't hit enough for our pitching to be recognized.

I guess it's like the Gold Glove.

2008-07-06 11:41:27
130.   Vishal
how is russ not the starting NL catcher??!
2008-07-06 11:42:21
131.   D4P
Christian Guzman is this year's Al Pedrique.
2008-07-06 11:43:10
132.   Icaros
Saito and Billingsley both have far superior numbers to Brian Wilson, except for his meaningless saves.
2008-07-06 11:43:17
133.   Vishal
ryan dempster is an all-star and chad billingsley is not? i hate the east.
2008-07-06 11:43:56
134.   Icaros