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Starting Pitchers (5)
$10,000,000 Hiroki Kuroda
*$475,000 Chad Billingsley
*$415,000 Clayton Kershaw
*$405,000 Eric Stults
*$400,000 James McDonald
*Total: $11,695,000

Bullpen (7)
*$2,500,000 Takashi Saito
*$1,300,000 Scott Proctor
*$1,500,000 Jonathan Broxton
*$425,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
*$420,000 Cory Wade
*$410,000 Ramon Troncoso
*$400,000 Scott Elbert
Total: $6,955,000

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Mario Alvarez
Yhency Brazoban
Greg Miller
Justin Orenduff

Starting Lineup (8)
$17,100,000 Andruw Jones
*$3,000,000 Russell Martin
*$2,500,000 Andre Ethier
*$600,000 Matt Kemp
*$600,000 James Loney
*$500,000 Angel Berroa
*$410,000 Blake DeWitt
*$400,000 Tony Abreu
Total: $25,110,000

Bench (5)
$10,000,000 Juan Pierre
*$600,000 Jason Repko
*$410,000 Delwyn Young
*$400,000 Danny Ardoin
*$400,000 Chin-Lung Hu
Total: $11,810,000
Note: Team can buy out Ozuna's 2009 option for $200,000

Also on 40-man roster
A.J. Ellis
Lucas May
Xavier Paul

Disabled List
$12,000,000 Jason Schmidt

Also Paying ...
$2,000,000 Brad Penny (buyout of $9,000,000 option)
$50,000 Gary Bennett (buyout of $900,000 option)
Note: Kansas City is responsible for $500,000 buyout of Angel Berroa's $5,500,000 option for 2009.

Working total: *$68,020,000

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July 28 Game Chat
2008-07-28 18:28
by Jon Weisman
Comments (653)
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2008-07-28 18:31:44
1.   fanerman
It's okay Greg Brock. It's a mistake I'd make 10 times over.
2008-07-28 18:33:16
2.   KG16
is it strange that my only hope going into a Dodger game is that Torre won't put out the worst possible line up?
2008-07-28 18:33:23
3.   Tripon
I too, would like a toaster oven.
2008-07-28 18:34:00
4.   Greg Brock
1 The seconds between hitting submit and realizing a mistake feel like years.
2008-07-28 18:35:18
5.   KG16
i wonder if i could convince the girl i'm going to san fran with next weekend to take in a giants-dodgers game while we're there. or if there will be time with the whole attending a wedding thing.
2008-07-28 18:35:27
6.   fanerman
4 I do that even more frequently =/.
2008-07-28 18:36:12
7.   MonkeyBlue
2. There is always something wrong with the lineup, like putting Kent in the clean up spot.
2008-07-28 18:36:41
8.   Tripon
5 Tell her she'll get lucky if you're able to go to the game.
2008-07-28 18:39:17
9.   68elcamino427
4
When you can re-focus that energy and direct it to the moment before and during the taking of the action so that feels like years - then you're in the "zone".
2008-07-28 18:41:18
10.   Tripon
Jack Wilson scares me because Joe Torre might get even crazier and bat him second, pushing Matt Kemp to the 6th or 7th spot.
2008-07-28 18:42:33
11.   KG16
2 - I know there's always something wrong, it's just not "worst possible".

8 - i'm not sure how that's going to go over.

2008-07-28 18:46:20
12.   Bob Timmermann
11
I would not attempt the gambit in 8 .

You could offer to take her to a really nice dinner somewhere else in San Francisco. And then compliment her on her hair.

2008-07-28 18:46:51
13.   Bob Timmermann
12
However, when it comes to courtship, I believe I have what Bill James would call "old player skills."
2008-07-28 18:49:35
14.   Tripon
For all you Kawme Brown lovers, (All... zero of you), he just signed a deal with the Pistons, for two years/8 million dollars. How it was more than the vets minimum I have no idea.
2008-07-28 18:52:22
15.   MC Safety
Since when is it arrogant to not accept stupididty?
2008-07-28 18:53:18
16.   KG16
12 - yeah, i'm not thinking 8 is the way to go. it probably helps that she is a giants fan. but i suppose i should find out when/where the wedding actually is, when/where we're flying in/out and where we're going to be sleeping.
2008-07-28 18:56:04
17.   D4P
Convincing girls to go to a baseball game is as easy as uttering little 7 words:

Ice cream in little plastic baseball hats

Course, then you're making her fat(ter), so there's a tradeoff involved.

2008-07-28 18:56:38
18.   underdog
To speak of someone else's lineup instead of obsessing about ours for once, how about Bochy starting Vizquel and Castillo over some of his younger guys? For a team that has absolutely no shot of playoffs this year that seems rather... sad.

Now watch, Castillo will hit a grand slam and Vizquel will go 4-4.

2008-07-28 18:59:26
19.   Tripon
18 They have a plan, a plan to completely suck and get as high a draft pick as possible. By playing the worst lineup possible, they are achieving their goal of failure. The Giants can only succeed by failing horribly.
2008-07-28 19:00:35
20.   Prescott Pete
5

If you're going to San Francisco
Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you're going to San Francisco
You're gonna meet some gentle people there

2008-07-28 19:01:05
21.   D4P
Bengie Molina must be excited to actually be out-OPSing the opposing cleanup hitter.
2008-07-28 19:02:31
22.   trainwreck
17
You must have a really cool wife.
2008-07-28 19:02:36
23.   Who Is Karim Garcia
17

I tried that with the girlfriend I mentioned in the last thread. She was quick to remind me of my low Value Over Replacement Boyfriend (VORB) when I mentioned the thing about getting fat. ter.

2008-07-28 19:02:52
24.   underdog
Woo hoo! I finally get to watch a Dodgers game on my TV, instead of on my computer, for the first time in ages. I don't mind the Giants announcers, either.

Now, just don't suck, Dodgers.

2008-07-28 19:02:59
25.   Eric Stephen
I know this isn't the Mad Men thread, but I just watched it and I was thrilled to see former UHF co-star and and Palm Springs Target shopper David Bowe in the role of Don Draper's doctor.
2008-07-28 19:04:58
26.   trainwreck
20
That got sampled in a rap song. I was disgusted when I heard it.
2008-07-28 19:05:41
27.   Bob Timmermann
Cycle alert canceled in Atlanta.

Stand down.

2008-07-28 19:06:38
28.   trainwreck
Clippers signed Ricky Davis.
2008-07-28 19:07:11
29.   Prescott Pete
26

No way.

2008-07-28 19:07:51
30.   D4P
Omar Vizquel OPSing .305 on the road this year.
2008-07-28 19:09:12
31.   PalmdaleSteve1
Anyone see a copy of a photo from last night when Kershaw got "pied" by Martin? Got him during the post game show on the radio..interview going on and the boys got him.
2008-07-28 19:09:31
32.   Tripon
28 Errk. Ricky Davis is one of the dumbest guys in the NBA.
2008-07-28 19:10:59
33.   Who Is Karim Garcia
29
"Most recently it was recorded by a rap trio consisting of San Quinn, Banga and Big Rich, and produced by Traxamillion. The track is called "SF Anthem", and uses samples of the original song for the chorus."

http://tinyurl.com/2jklpf

2008-07-28 19:11:09
34.   PalmdaleSteve1
So sad...Andruw is sitting tonight...so sad.
2008-07-28 19:11:09
35.   Bob Timmermann
The Marlins announcers are rejoicing that they have rallied in the bottom of the 8th without hitting a home run. They feel that the team is too dependent on the long ball and it's good to see the team get five street hits.

It's Bizarro Baseball!

2008-07-28 19:12:15
36.   Who Is Karim Garcia
28

Thank you for keeping the competition open.

Sincerely,
Kwame Brown

2008-07-28 19:12:40
37.   underdog
That was a terrific catch by Pierre, absolutely.
2008-07-28 19:12:45
38.   Andrew Shimmin
Huh. I'm 1200 comments behind. Even skipping all the D4P ones, it'll still take a while to catch up, I bet.
2008-07-28 19:12:55
39.   Bob Timmermann
The Marlins announcers are also bemoaning how Hanley Ramirez has been a historically poor clutch hitter.

I'd be willing to have him be a poor clutch hitter for the Dodgers.

2008-07-28 19:13:54
40.   Bob Timmermann
Orange alert for Adam Jones in New York. This is an orange alert.
2008-07-28 19:14:12
41.   Prescott Pete
33
Well, if Banga participated, I'm good with it.
2008-07-28 19:15:17
42.   Tripon
Randy Winn's in the 3rd spot? Man, how the Giants have fallen.
2008-07-28 19:15:21
43.   Who Is Karim Garcia
40

Pac-Man is making it rain at the club?

2008-07-28 19:16:12
44.   trainwreck
Rumor running around Philadelphia.

The Phils will send C Lou Marson, SS Jason Donald, SP J.A. Happ, and CF Greg Golson to the Blue Jays for SP Roy Halladay and C Greg Zaun.

2008-07-28 19:16:31
45.   Bob Timmermann
Adam Jones goes with the "My Name is Earl" look on his photo for Yahoo.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7812

2008-07-28 19:17:39
46.   underdog
44 Gack, please don't do that, Toronto.
2008-07-28 19:17:43
47.   LogikReader
Man this Brewers/Cubs game is exciting! One of the better regular season rivalry games I've seen in a long, long time.

Sorry Red Sox/Yankee fans.

---

I have that game on with the Dodger game through the courtesy of PIP.

2008-07-28 19:18:22
48.   Ken Noe
Boston Globe: Ned agreed to take Manny...if Boston took Jones. http://tinyurl.com/5djvoe
2008-07-28 19:18:27
49.   underdog
Am I the only one actually watching the game? Just wondering...
2008-07-28 19:18:50
50.   Bob Timmermann
Randy Winn has batted 3rd over 200 times in his career.
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2008-07-28 19:19:12
51.   trainwreck
49
Series with the Giants are pretty much my only chance to watch this team.
2008-07-28 19:19:20
52.   underdog
Egads. Thursday afternoon just can't come fast enough.
2008-07-28 19:20:20
53.   Greg Brock
Wow, this dude looks a lot like Brett Tomko.

I wonder if he can paint.

2008-07-28 19:20:45
54.   Who Is Karim Garcia
I'm watching, underdog. Searching my box for that Cubbies game, to no avail. I swear I used to get WGN.
2008-07-28 19:21:03
55.   Tripon
That was a hustle play by Kemp. When's the last time we seen JP try to leg out a grounder?
2008-07-28 19:21:11
56.   Bob Timmermann
Tommy Hutton is taunting the Mets fans leaving Dolphins Stadium early. The Marlins lead 7-3 in the 8th.

Sadly, Hanley Ramirez had no RBIs in the game and now the lead is four runs.

And I have Kevin Gregg on my fantasy team! As well as Hanley Ramirez.

Life hates me! Why is this everybody's fault but mine?

2008-07-28 19:21:35
57.   trainwreck
54
Not on WGN anyways.
2008-07-28 19:22:46
58.   Tripon
50 That doesn't mean that he should bat 3rd.
2008-07-28 19:25:50
59.   LoneStar7
If any sort of trade were to go through with the sox, i will wear my dodger hat out and spark plenty of conversation with all the bean town residents over here in martha's vineyard
2008-07-28 19:26:05
60.   Jacob L
48 Nice try, Ned! I'm not sure we could pry Alex Cora loose for Jones, even if we "evened out the salaries."
2008-07-28 19:26:15
61.   Bob Timmermann
58
Juan Pierre has batted leadoff a lot of times too.

I'm just saying that it's not all that unusual for Winn to bat third. And it's not like the Giants have a power-packed lineup.

2008-07-28 19:30:13
62.   trainwreck
Randy Winn knows how to hit third.
2008-07-28 19:30:23
63.   whodat807
Kuroda looks sharp so far. Hopefully we get Jekyll and not Hyde.
2008-07-28 19:32:36
64.   Ken Noe
60 Ned's so clever. After offering Jones, offering Pierre will seem reasonable.
2008-07-28 19:33:01
65.   underdog
55 But to be fair, a little kudos is in order for Pierre's diving catch top of the first, yah?
2008-07-28 19:33:03
66.   trainwreck
I think I have said this 100 times, but I am going to be so happy when Vizquel is gone.
2008-07-28 19:33:53
67.   Greg Brock
Sure, they'd be interested in Manny...if the Sox took Andruw Jones back

BWAAAHHHAAAAAHHHAAAAA...HaHaHa...Ha...Ahhh

Sigh...

Good stuff.

2008-07-28 19:35:48
68.   Andrew Shimmin
If Blake had gotten himself chased, and Berroa ended up at 3B, I would have laughed and laughed.
2008-07-28 19:36:41
69.   MC Safety
Vinny's already planting the "Casey Blake needs time to adjust to the NL" seed.
2008-07-28 19:37:12
70.   Bob Timmermann
If Blake were to leave the game, Ozuna would play third.
2008-07-28 19:37:37
71.   oshea2002
2-0 Swap Meet in San Diego.
2008-07-28 19:37:56
72.   Bob Timmermann
Blake has already faced the Giants this year in interleague play.
2008-07-28 19:38:09
73.   Andrew Shimmin
70- There's nothing funny about that, Bob.
2008-07-28 19:38:41
74.   Bob Timmermann
Cycle alert canceled in New York.

Stand down.

2008-07-28 19:38:51
75.   fanerman
That's not helping Loney's defensive numbers.
2008-07-28 19:40:26
76.   Bob Timmermann
Fantasy baseball alert:
Chad Moeller is playing his first ever game in the majors at third base.

Just in case you want to move him into that position.

2008-07-28 19:40:52
77.   MC Safety
26 Can you name names? I need to hear that.
2008-07-28 19:41:48
78.   trainwreck
77
Check 33
2008-07-28 19:42:14
79.   Bluebleeder87
I think the guys mentioned it saturday night but it's worth mentioning again, it was a really really cool sight watching Vin Scully sing "Take Me Out to the Ball Game" during the 7th inning stretch.

Here is little something I didn't know (story of my life) [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_Me_Out_to_the_Ball_Game ]

from Wikipedia -> "Take Me Out to the Ball Game" is an early-20th century Tin Pan Alley song which became the unofficial anthem of baseball although neither of its authors had attended a game prior to writing the song. The song is traditionally sung during the seventh-inning stretch of a baseball game, in spite of being written from the perspective of someone not at a game. Fans are encouraged to sing along.

2008-07-28 19:42:56
80.   MC Safety
Disregard 77 .

Wow. Rappers/producers really are running out of ideas.

2008-07-28 19:43:06
81.   Jacob L
Sure, you cruise along putting up monster numbers in the American League, but that's all fun and games until you have to face Kevin Correia and the San Francisco Giants.
2008-07-28 19:43:23
82.   LogikReader
The Cubs/Brewers game is on Extra Innings (and FSN Milwaukee if you live nearby).

Ooh, look who's entered the game! It's old friend Gagne.

Meanwhile... man a threat for the Giants? Oh well, the Dodgers could make up one run.

2008-07-28 19:43:43
83.   D4P
Huh. I'm 1200 comments behind. Even skipping all the D4P ones, it'll still take a while to catch up, I bet

Are you no longer reading the the first 3 words of my literary offerings...?

2008-07-28 19:45:11
84.   fanerman
Come on Hiroki, it's the Giants =/.
2008-07-28 19:45:30
85.   LogikReader
2-0 Giants. This isn't funny anymore, guys. =)
2008-07-28 19:46:49
86.   Greg Brock
The man from Osaka needs to miss a bat once in a while.
2008-07-28 19:47:20
87.   LogikReader
79

I joined a little late. Is this a reference to when Vin led Wrigley Field during the 7th inning stretch about 10 years ago?

2008-07-28 19:49:17
88.   Tripon
Maybe we should upgrade to Yu Darvish in the off season.
2008-07-28 19:50:27
89.   Bob Timmermann
87
On Saturday, bhsportsguy (Hurley), Greg Brock (Jack), bluebleeder (Sun), and me (Kate) (I don't believe in typecasting), were at the Dodgers-Nats game and we looked up to the press box and saw Vin singing.
2008-07-28 19:50:45
90.   xaphor
79 Vin stands up and sings along every game from his press box.
2008-07-28 19:51:05
91.   LogikReader
87

Check that. Just re-read the thread from Sat Night. That really IS cool!

It's true that Vin also led Wrigley Field in singing "ballgame," about a decade ago. I saw a highlight of it on Ch 5 once.

2008-07-28 19:51:29
92.   Bluebleeder87
man, Correia is on a mission tonight...

does anybody know when he won his last game?

2008-07-28 19:52:49
93.   D4P
Correia is on a mission

And he's wishin'
Someone could cure
His lonely condition

2008-07-28 19:53:41
94.   68elcamino427
Correia winless in his last nine starts - Vin on cue.
2008-07-28 19:54:31
95.   dkminnick
79 - Bleeder, I read that you guys saw Vin singing TMOTTBG on Saturday. Does anyone know if he always does that?! Not that I need any more reasons to love Vin Scully but that is off-the-charts awesome.
2008-07-28 19:55:01
96.   max power
79 89 90 I have a great picture of Vin belting it out at Kershaw's first game. Priceless!
2008-07-28 19:55:13
97.   Bob Timmermann
Charlie Steiner and Bob Carpenter were also singing.
2008-07-28 19:56:32
98.   underdog
Well, this isn't how I planned this game to start off at all. No sirree. Reboot!
2008-07-28 19:56:55
99.   dkminnick
90 - Thanks, Xaphor. How unjaded is that? That may now be my favorite thing about Vinny.
2008-07-28 19:57:05
100.   Bob Timmermann
It happens to other teams.

When Tim Hudson left his last start early, he just said he had a little tightness in his elbow and he would make his next start.

Earlier today, Hudson was put on the DL as a precaution.

Hudson is now ruled out for the season with ligament damage.

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2008-07-28 19:57:30
101.   imperabo
Giant's announcers are raving about how happy the team is to see Sweeney. Because he's such a nice guy and they miss him.
2008-07-28 19:58:11
102.   tethier
trivia question - Drysdale?
2008-07-28 19:58:28
103.   fanerman
101 Miss him enough to give us back Mr. Denker?
2008-07-28 19:58:34
104.   Gen3Blue
When did Correa start looking like a young
whoever?
2008-07-28 19:59:10
105.   JoeyP
Small consolation:

Micah Owings sucks.
It should be Scherzer time any time now.

5-3 Padres.

2008-07-28 19:59:19
106.   underdog
Kent's range factor is sort of like the weather report when there's only a bit of rain: "Trace"
2008-07-28 19:59:22
107.   scareduck
Was somebody talking about Kent's defense earlier? Huh.
2008-07-28 19:59:28
108.   Greg Brock
Jeff Kent never made that play easily.

Ever.

2008-07-28 19:59:49
109.   scareduck
106 - I CAN HAS GROUNDERZ?
2008-07-28 20:00:05
110.   underdog
I didn't even see that the Rockies had lost to the Pirates already today. Well, that's something.
2008-07-28 20:00:25
111.   underdog
109 - LOL.
2008-07-28 20:01:06
112.   Bluebleeder87
I noticed nobody posted the lineup (per ItD)

Here's the lineup for today:

Pierre, LF

Kemp, CF

Martin, C

Kent, 2B

Loney, 1B

Blake, 3B

Ethier, RF

Berroa, SS

Kuroda, P

2008-07-28 20:01:18
113.   underdog
Krukow's right, Martin needs to communicate with Kuroda there, tell him the runner broke and to just throw to 1st. That was bad, guys, bad.
2008-07-28 20:01:21
114.   MC Safety
Wow, we suck. So much for our dreaded playoff rotation.
2008-07-28 20:01:29
115.   68elcamino427
Old Man having a difficult time falling to his right out there.
2008-07-28 20:01:36
116.   Bluebleeder87
Berroa playing Short, I wonder when there gonna call up Hu.
2008-07-28 20:01:36
117.   fanerman
Ugh. Come on guys!
2008-07-28 20:01:41
118.   Bob Timmermann
Ichi!

Ichi!

Ichi!

Ichi!

2008-07-28 20:02:32
119.   Bluebleeder87
115

That's the 2 time he has done that in as many games...

2008-07-28 20:02:53
120.   Andrew Shimmin
83 - Special circumstances. If I ever catch up, I'll go back to the first three words thing.
2008-07-28 20:02:56
121.   trainwreck
118
Ichi the Killer?
2008-07-28 20:03:05
122.   fanerman
Krukow (or is it Kuiper?) was ragging on Juan Pierre's arm. I couldn't help but laugh.
2008-07-28 20:03:40
123.   scareduck
102 - right era. Koufax.
2008-07-28 20:04:02
124.   underdog
Whoa - was that really 97mph to Vizquel there?
2008-07-28 20:04:11
125.   68elcamino427
Kuroda - bearing down.
2008-07-28 20:04:11
126.   68elcamino427
Kuroda - bearing down.
2008-07-28 20:04:28
127.   JoeyP
Thanks Omar.
2008-07-28 20:04:55
128.   underdog
114 You ever considered a career in theater?
2008-07-28 20:05:00
129.   Bluebleeder87
Come on Kuroda keep 'em at bay. (no pun)
2008-07-28 20:05:10
130.   tethier
123 Not Drysdale in 68?
2008-07-28 20:05:32
131.   fanerman
=(
2008-07-28 20:05:54
132.   Bluebleeder87
That umpire is full of it, it looked out no?
2008-07-28 20:05:59
133.   Andrew Shimmin
He looked out.
2008-07-28 20:06:23
134.   trainwreck
Goodness gracious sakes alive!
2008-07-28 20:06:23
135.   tethier
Bad, bad, bad
2008-07-28 20:06:26
136.   Bluebleeder87
check me, looked safe on the slow-mo re-peat.
2008-07-28 20:06:36
137.   scareduck
You can't make a Correia out of pitches like that one.

The Dodgers defense is seriously making some very embarrassing mistakes in this inning.

2008-07-28 20:06:40
138.   underdog