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His Imminence, Greg Maddux
2008-08-18 22:26
by Jon Weisman

The wait (if you were waiting) is all but over. Greg Maddux, baseball pitching legend and guru-in-action, benefactor of large parks and fine defenses, is unofficially on his way to the Dodgers for a player or players to be identified in times hence.

I've written about this before: Petco Park has been hiding some of Maddux's decline, leaving him arguably no better than the Dodgers whose innings he will take. That doesn't mean he can't or won't help, any more than we know whether the trade will be worth it while we're ignorant of whom the Dodgers gave up.

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2008-08-18 22:33:33
1.   Tripon
Can't wait for the first Maddux-Manny story.
2008-08-18 22:34:10
2.   Greg Brock
I am whelmed.
2008-08-18 22:35:18
3.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Do we know if the Pads are picking up his salary too?
2008-08-18 22:39:15
4.   KG16
2 - I am less than whelmed
2008-08-18 22:39:20
5.   Tripon
A Hannah Montana ad? What evil is this?
2008-08-18 22:40:36
6.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Some part of me hates engaging in the type of conversation that my question will certainly commence, but does anyone think that the mere fact that they went out and acquired Maddux (Manny and Casey, for that matter as well) will have a positive effect on our players...

maddux + manny + blake - andruw = chemistry = wins.

Somewhere, the phrase "heart and soul" is going to be used and I will be ashamed I even asked this question.

2008-08-18 22:43:51
7.   Alex41592
In the we'll never see it again category:

Manny Ramirez vs. Greg Maddux:

2 for 11 with a double.

2008-08-18 22:44:23
8.   KG16
i hate nights like this. i really feel like i should be writing, but i just can't bring myself to do anything productive.
2008-08-18 22:44:57
9.   Greg Brock
Man, I forgot that Bill Haverchuck's mom was a total fox.
2008-08-18 22:48:24
10.   Alex41592
Did you all know that the rights to "Love and Marriage" were not obtained to the DVD's of Married with Children season three and beyond.

Hence, this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kYayO4KCSY

Imagine if your favorite T.V show lost it's theme song. No sir I will not!

2008-08-18 22:50:01
11.   Linkmeister
Who's Bill Haverchuck? Do I want to know?

Maddux can't do much worse than a sore-armed Penny, I shouldn't think.

2008-08-18 22:50:56
12.   KG16
10 - that just makes me weep, if you know, i had tear ducts.
2008-08-18 22:54:25
13.   silverwidow
Just a guess:

Xavier Paul and Justin Orenduff or Greg Miller.

2008-08-18 22:54:48
14.   Linkmeister
Gad. I'd forgotten how grotesque that opening sequence with the cigarette butts is.
2008-08-18 22:55:42
15.   Greg Brock
11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_r5O4PKi4
2008-08-18 22:57:57
16.   Louis in SF
Just simple math, when Penny and Wade went on the DL, Stultz and Sturytz came up, Tanyon was added to the 40 man roster. I hope the Dodgers are not doing something very stupid in acquiring Maddox for what will amount to 6 starts. I am assuming that he will not pitch in Arizona if his spot comes up, and am also doubtful about Coors. Can't get a handle on who the Minor Leaguers will be, but someone has got to come of the 40 man roster and I don't see the Pads taking Tanyon has part of this deal. Wade is also supposed to come off the DL this weekend.
2008-08-18 22:59:46
17.   Who Is Karim Garcia
13

You have to be kidding me.

2008-08-18 23:03:20
18.   Eric Enders
11 The question isn't whether he'd do better than a sore-armed Penny, but better than James McDonald. It's not a coincidence that this deal happened the day after Ned traveled to Las Vegas and saw McDonald get torched in person. I'm guessing that after he saw that, he decided to give in after all and give the Padres the caliber of prospect they'd been asking for all along.

X Paul is a decent guess. The Padres like college players now, so it could also be somebody like Pedroza or Orenduff.

2008-08-18 23:04:46
19.   Eric Enders
16 I'd guess Sturtze will be DFAed and sent back to Vegas if no one claims him.
2008-08-18 23:06:38
20.   silverwidow
17 Greg "out of options" Miller will never make the Dodgers with his horrible command. The ship has sailed, unfortunately.

Paul is a good OF prospect who also doesn't fit into the teams plans.

2008-08-18 23:07:38
21.   Eric Stephen
16
Stults could be sent back down for Maddux. And Strutze or JJJ could be waived when Wade comes back.
2008-08-18 23:09:15
22.   silverwidow
This seems pretty obvious:

*Stults optioned
*Proctor to 60-day to make room for Maddux

2008-08-18 23:10:57
23.   Alex41592
21 - I figured they would option Stults back as well, but they still need to clear a 40 man spot for Maddux.

Also, if Furcal comes off the DL you have to clear room for him off the 40 man as well, correct?

2008-08-18 23:12:05
24.   Eric Enders
20 Paul is a mediocre prospect, but he'd probably be an ideal fifth outfielder. We'd miss him next year in that he can fill the Jason Repko role a lot better than Jason Repko can.
2008-08-18 23:12:22
25.   Alex41592
22 - There we go. Proctor went on the DL June 22nd so it would be easy to 60 day him.
2008-08-18 23:12:32
26.   Eric Stephen
23
Yes, someone will need to be moved to the 60-day DL (Saito?) or DFA'd if Furcal comes back.
2008-08-18 23:13:58
27.   Eric Enders
23 Yes, but when Furcal comes back the room could be created by DFAing Berroa. You don't need 3 guys on the 25-man roster who play shortstop only.
2008-08-18 23:15:08
28.   grady44
Maddux vs. Kuroda; Fairly Similar:

Kuroda 7-8 3.88 1.22 (5.6 k/9) (2.1 bb/9) (0.7 hr/9)

Maddux 6-9 3.99 1.22 (4.7 k/9) (1.5 bb/9) (0.9 hr/9)

Those are pretty similar numbers.

On another note, one of the things I remember from Maddux '06 was that he was on a limited pitch count, only going 5-6 innings. I wonder what effect this is going to have on the bullpen, that has already show some wear the last few days sans Cory Wade. Anyone have access to how many pitches he's averaged per start? I know he's averaged 5.9 IP per start. I guess the question is will he save the bullpen more than Stults, Johnson, or McDonald?

2008-08-18 23:15:41
29.   Eric Enders
28 Severe ballpark differences.
2008-08-18 23:17:47
30.   Eric Enders
28 Maddux has averaged 79.6 pitches per start.
2008-08-18 23:17:49
31.   Tripon
27 You're assuming that Furcal comes back before Sept 1.
2008-08-18 23:20:16
32.   Eric Enders
31 No, September 1 has nothing to do with what I was talking about. It's the 40-man roster spot that's an issue, not the 25-man roster spot.
2008-08-18 23:20:33
33.   grady44
29-

This is true. Although I would have thought that the biggest effect Petco would have had would have been to keep the HR down. However, he's actually allowed 9 HR at Petco (0.9 hr/9) and 7 HR away from Petco (also 0.9 hr/9).

2008-08-18 23:21:09
34.   Eric Stephen
ESPN Radio host Andy Gresh is making the point right now that CC Sabathia is the NL MVP, but Brandon Webb is Cy Young.

How can CC (a) win MVP playing ~3 months, and (b) win MVP but not win Cy Young?

Gresh said Sabathia wins MVP, but can't win Cy Young because he hasn't been there all year. My head just exploded.

2008-08-18 23:27:25
35.   grady44
29-

Also: Maddux BABIP splits (if I figured them out with with late night math):

HOME: .236
AWAY: .353
TOTAL: .291

I guess either way, I believe it comes down to who was going to tax the bullpen the worst. With McDonald probably being on a IP limit (already at 134 ip), I'd think that Maddux is the best option out of Maddux/Stults/Jason Johnson.

2008-08-18 23:27:49
36.   Eric Enders
Didn't Maddux have a gigantic difference between his home and road performances the first time around with the Dodgers?
2008-08-18 23:30:45
37.   Eric Enders
36 Looking it up, it was 1.91 home, 4.75 road. Sample size is so small that it probably means nothing.
2008-08-18 23:32:28
38.   Tripon
A Dodgers fan on the ESPN boards is guessing James Adkins.
2008-08-18 23:33:44
39.   Eric Enders
I would be disappointed if it were Adkins.
2008-08-18 23:49:21
40.   Landonkk
I apologize if this was discussed in a previous thread, but Andruw hit 2 HR's in Vegas tonight. How is it that this guy can rake in AAA but look like a little leaguer in the bigs?
2008-08-18 23:53:32
41.   Greg Brock
40 There are dozens of players that rake in AAA and can't hit in the bigs. Hence, the "Quadruple A" tag.

Maybe Andruw Jones has just become Val Pascucci.

2008-08-18 23:53:51
42.   sporky
I go out for a while, and Greg Maddux is a Dodger.
2008-08-18 23:55:58
43.   CanuckDodger
39 -- I could live with losing Adkins. I bet we are going to lose somebody I prize more highly than Adkins. Probably two people I prize more highly than Adkins.
2008-08-18 23:57:28
44.   milkshakeballa
I custom made a Maddux Dodger jersey in 06' to wear to game 4 against the mets and had great tickets for the first two home games in the NLCS. Let's just say, I was thoroughly disappointed I wasn't able to wear it.

But it looks like I will be able to now though!

2008-08-19 00:01:08
45.   Jacob Burch
43 Pure curiosity -- around how many players do you prize higher than Adkins? Its been a while since I've seen a bonafide Canuck depth chart, and I'm sorely missing it.
2008-08-19 00:12:57
46.   sporky
How exactly do the PTBNL rules work? Anyone not on the 25 man that both teams agree to?
2008-08-19 00:13:43
47.   CanuckDodger
45 -- In the 12 to 15 range, probably. Between the players who have "graduated" this year, and the people we have traded away, our farm is looking shakier than it has in some time.
2008-08-19 00:18:37
48.   sporky
Kershaw on the trade:

>>Although Kershaw is a power lefty and Maddux is a command and control righty, the rookie plans on learning all he can from Maddux.

"If he does get to come, I definitely would ask him as many questions as I can," Kershaw said. "Hopefully he likes answering questions, because I'm definitely going to be doing a lot of that.

"He obviously has a lot to teach. He's been out there so long. He knows a lot more about the game than I do right now, so I'm definitely going to just try to listen to him, pick his brain."<<

2008-08-19 00:20:51
49.   Eric Enders
46 That, and it has to be completed within six months. Usually the team receiving the PTBNL is given a list of a handful of players and allowed to pick which one they want after scouting them for a while.

The PTBNL normally can be on the 25-man roster, but the rule is he has to switch leagues, so in this specific case it would have to be someone not on the active roster.

2008-08-19 00:24:12
50.   Alex41592
From L.A Times:

"The Dodgers will be paying at least a part of the remaining portion of Maddux's contract, making him the first of four trade acquisitions this season whose entire salary isn't being picked up by his former club."

So, the two PTBNL can't be of much significance if we're paying some money.

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2008-08-19 00:25:15
51.   silverwidow
DeJesus is turning into a beast at Jacksonville. A 4-for-5 night brings his line to:

.315/.411/.410

Also...
68 walks
14 steals in 16 attempts

He is the YOUNGEST player on the team.

2008-08-19 00:28:38
52.   Eric Enders
I wonder if he's the youngest player in the league. He's probably close to it, at least.
2008-08-19 00:31:10
53.   bhsportsguy
46

1. Deal must be complete within 6 months of trade.
2. Player(s) cannot have played in the same league at the time of the trade.

Rule 2 means that in trades within the same league, the player to be named later cannot be on the active roster at the time of the trade.

The usual procedure is the trading team provides a list of players that the receiving team uses to make its choice.

If the player is on the 40 man roster, he must clear waivers or they will wait until after the season to make the trade. If the player is not on the 40 man roster, that player does not need to clear waivers.

2008-08-19 00:31:15
54.   CanuckDodger
48 -- God, I hate that expression: "pick his brain." Whenever I hear it, or read it, I immediately think of the assassination of Leon Trotsky (he was stabbed in the head with an ice pick).
2008-08-19 00:32:38
55.   Eric Enders
Whenever I hear it, I think of picking one's nose but going a little too deep.
2008-08-19 00:36:55
56.   Ken Noe
Tim Brown: "According to a source familiar with the trade, the Dodgers will pay "a small portion" of the approximately $2.25 million owed Maddux over the season's final month-and-a-half. In return, the Padres will choose at least one player from a list of five or six, none on the Dodgers' major-league roster."
2008-08-19 00:41:49
57.   silverwidow
I wonder if Furcal is a good comp for DeJesus?

Age 21:

Furcal (A/A+): .322/.387/.389
DeJesus (AA): .315/.411/.410

Not much power but really good hitters who could work the count. Biggest difference is Furcal had an incredible 96 SBs that year.

2008-08-19 00:42:12
58.   sporky
49 53 Thanks. I can't imagine it's anyone above the Paul/Repko/Orenduff/Miller threshold.

55 Me, too. It actually reminds me of mummification, but that involves a hook, not a pick.

2008-08-19 00:43:08
59.   silverwidow
57 That's actually Raffy's age 20 season, my mistake.
2008-08-19 00:48:01
60.   silverwidow
Wait, now I'm confused. Baseball Reference has his D.O.B. as 10/24/77, but their minor league page has it as 10/24/78
2008-08-19 00:49:15
61.   silverwidow
If it's really 1977, then 57 is correct.
2008-08-19 00:49:33
62.   Eric Enders
59 There's almost a six-month difference in their birthdays, so that was about as good a comp season as you could get anyway. They were about 6.2 months apart in age during those seasons.
2008-08-19 00:52:54
63.   Eric Enders
Baseball America's handy-dandy Agegate chart says the 1977 date is correct for Furcal.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/features/agechart.html

Disregard 62 , since it was based on the incorrect date listed on his minor league BB-Ref page.

2008-08-19 01:58:03
64.   LAT
41 41. Greg Brock
40 There are dozens of players that rake in AAA and can't hit in the bigs. Hence, the "Quadruple A" tag.
Maybe Andruw Jones has just become Val Pascucci

. . . or Andy LaRoche.

2008-08-19 02:00:20
65.   LAT
I will live in fear for the rest of the season that Maddux will do to us what Glavine did to the Mets the final day of 2007.
2008-08-19 02:07:36
66.   LAT
From the previous thread: JDSUniphase rides again. Dividands to follow.
2008-08-19 02:46:54
67.   bhsportsguy
If the Dodgers don't change their rotation plans, Maddux will start on the following dates:

8/23 - @ Philadelphia
8/28 - @ Washington D.C.
9/2 - San Diego
9/8 - @ San Diego
9/14 - @ Colorado
9/19 - San Francisco
9/25 - San Diego

2008-08-19 05:06:56
68.   Eric Enders
The @Philly and @Colorado dates are downright scary. The rest of it looks ideal.
2008-08-19 05:58:07
69.   StolenMonkey86
From the last thread:

376, 386 - Passage ... out?

2008-08-19 06:51:13
70.   Daniel Zappala
Does Maddux have plans to retire after this season?
2008-08-19 06:59:02
71.   Ken Noe
Did Ned wait to long? Two weeks ago, he might have gotten Maddux for Falkenborg and his "exploding" fastball. But now we wait....
2008-08-19 07:12:46
72.   Disabled List
Of course, I'm going to the 8/23 game in Philly. Kershaw was originally in line for that game (against Hamels!), but Penny's DL stint moved everyone up a day.

Maddux last pitched on Friday against the Phils, although it was at Petco Park and not Citizens Bank Launching Pad. He did pretty well, going 7 IP, allowing only 5 hits and taking a hard-luck loss on a 7th inning solo HR to Pat Burrell.

Maddux's next start was scheduled to be Thursday, so I'm hoping he ends up pitching at home against Colorado that day. That would put Lowe in Philadelphia on Friday and Kershaw on Saturday.

2008-08-19 07:28:50
73.   tethier
72 I'm going to the game on Friday night so I'm hoping the rotation stays as is. However, it would not surprise me to see them insert Maddux at DS on Thursday so he avoids the "launching pad."
2008-08-19 07:28:56
74.   Paul Scott
I am sure some of you have already done this, but here is a list of the DIFFERENCES in schedule between AZI and LAD for the remainder of the season:

AZI: FLAx3, StLx3, CINx3, SFx1, @StLx4

LAD: SDx3, @PHIx4, @WASx3, @PITx4

In all other respects, the schedule is identical (plus 6 HtH games, split evenly at three at each stadium).

2008-08-19 07:33:20
75.   Eric Stephen
A local sports radio guy here in SD just said Brad Penny and Larry the Cable Guy look alike. It's hard to disagree with that!

Although I don't think Dan Whitney could have pulled Alyssa Milano.

2008-08-19 07:48:30
76.   ibleedbloo
72 Not to be selfish, but I'm flying out of Ontario very early Friday morning and it will make my trip a lot easier if the pay off is watching Clayton pitch that night; no offense D-Lowe, I should see you on Tuesday against the Nats.

Come to think about it though, if Maddux plans on beginning round 2 of his Dodger career the same way he began round one, I wouldn't be very disappointed watching him shut down the Phils in person…minus the rain, of course.

2008-08-19 08:00:24
77.   Disabled List
73 , 76 Come on, you guys! Maddux has been horrible on the road this year, let's give him a nice comfy home game on Thursday. That'll allow Derek Lowe to throw lots of groundballs at the Artillery Test Range in Philadelphia on Friday, and Kershaw vs. Hamels in the Fox Game of the Week on Saturday. It's a win-win situation for everybody!

(The fact that I have tickets to Saturday's game has in no way influenced my opinion on this.)

2008-08-19 08:08:26
78.   Sam PHL
77 - No! I'm going Friday and Monday, and was thrilled when I saw Kershaw and Billingsley slated to pitch. But Maddux throws everything off. I'm hoping to see one of them at least...
2008-08-19 08:11:55
79.   D4P
I'd like to think that if I were Michael Phelps, I wouldn't shill for all the products and services he's probably gonna shill for in exchange for the $100 million he's gonna make.

But it would be tough to turn down.

2008-08-19 08:15:32
80.   Gen3Blue
I admit I haven't been paying much attention to the Maddox situation lately, and I am not sure why San Diego seems anxious to trade him. I would assume it is about saving money, or that the Pads have five better starters. Is there something more to it?
2008-08-19 08:15:47
81.   Sushirabbit
I like His Imminence and all, but my first thought at reading this: It's going to be a crazy winter.

The Dodgers are going to be in a very bad position because of Schmidt, Jones, and Pierre. Free Agents are Nomar, Kent, Furcal, Penny, Lowe, Blake, Manny. Right?

2008-08-19 08:20:25
82.   Eric Stephen
80
It's primarily a cost saving move. If they can save $500k to $1m (depending on how much of the ~$2.25m the Dodgers are paying) they will do it.

Also, they will be adding two prospects that will at least add depth to their farm system.

2008-08-19 08:21:23
83.   Eric Stephen
81
Penny has a club option at $9.25m, with a $2m buyout, so there's a chance he won't be a free agent just yet.
2008-08-19 08:22:04
84.   Jon Weisman
Rosenthal finally made something of a contribution:

http://tinyurl.com/6bzo7k

2008-08-19 08:28:13
85.   Eric Stephen
Maddux will almost certainly be at least a Type B free agent (he was a Type A last year, and there's a small chance he could repeat that), but I doubt the Dodgers will offer him arbitration.

Really the only two places Maddux would sign to play are LA and San Diego, and I doubt the Padres would sign Maddux if they had to give up their 2nd round draft pick (their 1st rounder will be too high to surrender).

It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if Maddux accepted arbitration. The best case scenario is for Maddux to be a Type B free agent so he can sign with the Padres and net a supplemental draft pick for the Dodgers.

2008-08-19 08:35:18
86.   Who Is Karim Garcia
84

Anyone with a Santana statistical update? He was older for he league he was playing in so my wonder was if his value was a bit inflated.

2008-08-19 08:37:17
87.   regfairfield
85 Giving Maddux 10 million when we've got five big holes next year is pretty close to the worst thing in the world.
2008-08-19 08:37:54
88.   Gen3Blue
82 Thanks Eric.
2008-08-19 08:38:01
89.   Eric Stephen
86
Santana has made a Smooth transition to the Hi-Class A Kinston Indians, hitting .368/.442/.605 in 19 games.
2008-08-19 08:38:08
90.   natepurcell
If he is a type B, you don't have to offer arb to get the draft pick.
2008-08-19 08:38:32
91.   regfairfield
86 .368/.442/.605 with 14 strike outs in 76 at bats for Cleveland. It's probably too late for a promotion to mean anything.
2008-08-19 08:39:26
92.   Eric Stephen
88
I forgot Beimel as well. He will be a free agent as well, probably a Type B.
2008-08-19 08:40:27
93.   MollyKnight
Could the Dodgers have blocked Dunn from going to the DBacks without picking up the tab on his salary? If not, then we know why they didn't do it.

Whether he's cash poor or he simply doesn't want to give Ned any more of his money to light on fire, the message is clear: no more salaries in 08.

2008-08-19 08:42:09
94.   regfairfield
93 It's reported we're taking on some of Maddux's salary.

I still think the odds of the Reds saying "here, have Adam Dunn and two draft picks, we don't want them" were near zero.

2008-08-19 08:44:02
95.   Eric Stephen
90
That's not true. Per Article B(4)(c) of the MLB Collective Bargaining Agreement:

A Type A or B Player shall be subject to compensation only if (i) he signs a contract with another Club prior to December 1; or(ii) he is offered salary arbitration by his former Club on or before December 1 pursuant to Section B(3) of this Article XX and signs a contract with another Club

2008-08-19 08:44:22
96.   D4P
94
I agree. There was no risk associated with blocking Dunn.

The problem with expecting Ned to block Dunn is that such an expectation assumes that Ned would believe that Dunn would help the DBacks, when in fact, it's more likely that Ned thinks Dunn will hurt them.

2008-08-19 08:50:46
97.   bhsportsguy
How come no one is asking why didn't the D-Backs put a claim in on Maddux?

I mean, if the Dodgers claim him, so be it, but if they don't, the D-Backs claim him, the Padres would probably have to pull him back because he has a no-trade clause (similar to Giles) and then the Dodgers can't get him.

2008-08-19 08:51:41
98.   Paul Scott
85 Type B no longer result in losses, only in gains.
2008-08-19 08:52:14
99.   Ken Noe
Kim: "Should we put a claim on Dunn?"
Ned: "Gee what would we do with another outfielder? Pierre's agent keeps calling me as it is."
Kim: "Okay, should we put a claim on Maddux?"
Ned: "No, let's wait to see if we need a starter down the stretch."
Kim: "But if we do that, won't the Padres be able to ask for more?"
Ned: {sigh}.
2008-08-19 08:54:27
100.   regfairfield
97 What's the rules if the team has the same record?
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2008-08-19 08:54:28
101.   Eric Stephen
98
I wasn't clear in that 2nd paragraph of 85 , but I meant that's what the Padres would give up if Maddux was a Type A. That's why I mentioned the best case would be for Maddux to be a Type B free agent, so the Padres could sign him without giving up anything but cash.
2008-08-19 08:55:30
102.   Paul Scott
93 Dunn for 2 months plus 2 high draft picks is easily worth $3.5M. Bottom line is we were just stupid. There was no possibility of a bad outcome from us putting a claim in on Dunn.
2008-08-19 08:58:02
103.   wronghanded
If we do qualify for the playoffs, I'm wondering how our rotation will shape up.

Billingsley
Lowe
Kuroda
Maddux?

2008-08-19 08:59:06
104.   Dodgers49
From previous thread:

414 408 I realize that...it's just the quick way to figure the magic number.

Let's look at the end of the 1996 NL West. Going into the final 3 games of the season (Padres at Dodger Stadium), the Dodgers held a 2 game lead, 90-69. The Padres were 88-71. At that point, the Padres' magic number was 6 (Dodgers could finish 93-69, so the Padres needed 6 wins to beat 93), meaning they had to sweep to win the division. Which of course they did.

Actually, the Padres' magic number was 2. Why 2? Because the magic number is determined with reference to the team at the top of the standings. Which in this case was the Dodgers. And any combination of Dodgers wins and/or Padres losses totaling 2 would have eliminated San Diego. So if one had looked at the standings at the beginning of that series the number in the Magic Number column opposite San Diego would have been a 2.

2008-08-19 09:01:10
105.   D4P
Bottom line is we were just stupid

In more ways than one. Like I said: it's very unlikely that Ned thinks Dunn is a good player.