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$10,000,000 Hiroki Kuroda
*$475,000 Chad Billingsley
*$415,000 Clayton Kershaw
*$405,000 Eric Stults
*$400,000 James McDonald
*Total: $11,695,000

Bullpen (7)
*$2,500,000 Takashi Saito
*$1,300,000 Scott Proctor
*$1,500,000 Jonathan Broxton
*$425,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
*$420,000 Cory Wade
*$410,000 Ramon Troncoso
*$400,000 Scott Elbert
Total: $6,955,000

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Yhency Brazoban
Greg Miller
Justin Orenduff

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$17,100,000 Andruw Jones
*$3,000,000 Russell Martin
*$2,500,000 Andre Ethier
*$600,000 Matt Kemp
*$600,000 James Loney
*$500,000 Angel Berroa
*$410,000 Blake DeWitt
*$400,000 Tony Abreu
Total: $25,110,000

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$10,000,000 Juan Pierre
*$600,000 Jason Repko
*$410,000 Delwyn Young
*$400,000 Danny Ardoin
*$400,000 Chin-Lung Hu
Total: $11,810,000
Note: Team can buy out Ozuna's 2009 option for $200,000

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Lucas May
Xavier Paul

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$12,000,000 Jason Schmidt

Also Paying ...
$2,000,000 Brad Penny (buyout of $9,000,000 option)
$50,000 Gary Bennett (buyout of $900,000 option)
Note: Kansas City is responsible for $500,000 buyout of Angel Berroa's $5,500,000 option for 2009.

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Kershaw XVI: Kershawnce To Dream
2008-08-28 15:15
by Jon Weisman

Dodgers at Nationals, 4:10 p.m.
Today's Lineups
Los Angeles
Matt Kemp, CF
Andre Ethier, RF
Manny Ramirez, LF
Jeff Kent, 2B
James Loney, 1B
Casey Blake, 3B
Danny Ardoin, C
Angel Berroa, SS
Clayton Kershaw, P
Washington
Anderson Hernandez, 2B
Christian Guzman, SS
Ryan Zimmerman, 3B
Lastings Milledge, CF
Ron Belliard, 1B
Elijah Dukes, RF
Willie Harris, LF
Wil Nieves, C
John Lannan, P
Cory Wade was officially activated today, and Tanyon Sturtze was assigned for designation, reports Tony Jackson of the Daily News.

From the Dodgers' press release: "Wade had worked more innings (52.2) than any Dodgers reliever from the time he was recalled from Triple-A Las Vegas on April 24 to the time he was placed on the DL."







Comments (287)
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2008-08-28 15:26:50
1.   LAT
Ding dong, the widget's dead. Long live the faster opening DT page!!!
(Has it been gone for a while and I'm just noticing?)
2008-08-28 15:27:52
2.   Tripon
''We wish Jay well and will miss him -- not personally, of course -- but in the sense of noticing he is no longer here, at least for a few days,'' Cooke said. ''A paper, like a sports franchise, is something that moves into the future. Stars come and stars go, but the Sun-Times sports section was, is and will continue to be the best in the city.''

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/1131768,CST-SPT-deluca28.article

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN.

2008-08-28 15:29:37
3.   GMac In The 909
Tanyon, you're cut.

(Five minutes later ...)

Just kidding.

(Twenty-four hours later ...)

Seriously, Tanyon, why haven't you packed your things yet?

2008-08-28 15:29:53
4.   D4P
I'm waiting for a Dale Gribble-themed Kershaw title, along the lines of "Kershaw --: Ker-shi-shi-shawwww..."
2008-08-28 15:30:18
5.   scareduck
LAT'd in the last thread:

Not that too many people care about the AL East here, but Beckett's been shut down and will visit Dr. James Andrews:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=3558517

Might mean the Twinks go to the postseason as the Wild Card.

2008-08-28 15:30:20
6.   Tripon
1 The ads are still here.

And I find it funny that Tanyon Sturtze was DFAed despite having a 0.00 ERA. Funny amusing, not funny odd.

2008-08-28 15:30:36
7.   dzzrtRatt
Matt Kemp has vowed to be the first leadoff hitter in baseball history to hit a grand slam in his first at-bat.
2008-08-28 15:30:54
8.   scareduck
1 - I got fed up with it and started using AdBlock Plus to nuke it.
2008-08-28 15:31:03
9.   regfairfield
He should sue.
2008-08-28 15:31:06
10.   Kevin Lewis
0

I don't know how I feel about Proctor coming back. I forgot he was still on the team

2008-08-28 15:34:57
11.   scareduck
7 - he's two years too late for that.
2008-08-28 15:36:26
12.   Kevin Lewis
Not that I want him to be rushed back, but what is Saito's rehab looking like?
2008-08-28 15:38:51
13.   trainwreck
What the heck? I have new Firefox and AdBlock Plus and it does not block any of these things.

I don't mind the widget though.

2008-08-28 15:40:43
14.   LAT
[8.] Maybe the widget is still there and my firm's software is blocking it. It was really slowing down the loading of my DT page before.

[6.] I don't mind the ads. If Jon can make some $$$ with DT I'm all for it. (Even if it means reestablishing the widget.)

2008-08-28 15:40:45
15.   Tripon
• The Buc stops: Pedro Alvarez's conscientious objection to signing his own contract isn't the Pirates' only issue. Scouts who have followed the Pirates have been buzzing about Andy LaRoche's lethargic play since he arrived from the Dodgers, who traded him because they had the same concerns.

"To see that effort level is really disappointing," one scout said. "I'm stunned that the effort level has been so poor. To see a kid hitting .170 and not running ground balls out, it's hard to fathom. This isn't the kind of player this team needs. They need more dirt balls and fire guys who scratch and claw."

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=3557223&type=story

2008-08-28 15:41:39
16.   D4P
15
Just confirms my suspicions about Andy and Management's concerns about him.
2008-08-28 15:42:25
17.   underdog
Hard to feel sorry for ol' Tanyon but I was pleasantly surprised Torre defied some expectations and hardly used him while he was around. More importantly, though, it'll be good to have Wade back. I wouldn't mind having a healthy Proctor back, either -- when he's not overused and healthy he can be pretty solid.
2008-08-28 15:42:33
18.   Tripon
Also:

• Blakes all around: The Dodgers have interest in bringing back Casey Blake. But that wouldn't mean that the guy he deposed at third base, Blake DeWitt, would be consigned to two years in Las Vegas. Scouts report the Dodgers have been playing DeWitt at second base in Triple-A because they believe he might be versatile enough to supplant Jeff Kent there next year.

There goes two draft picks, or one compensation pick due to Blake playing himself in type-B FA.

2008-08-28 15:43:37
19.   trainwreck
18
I said we would do it.

Sigh.

2008-08-28 15:46:43
20.   Tripon
19 Interesting that they don't see Hu as a possible 2nd baseman. If they resign Furcal to a one year deal, does that mean the Dodgers see Hu as a backup in the majors?
2008-08-28 15:47:36
21.   cargill06
20 I would doubt that considering one source saying the Dodgers said Hu was "untouchable" at the deadline.
2008-08-28 15:48:21
22.   trainwreck
20
No, Ned is just very cautious with young guys unless he has no choice.
2008-08-28 15:48:26
23.   Tripon
21 But the Dodgers won't have room for Hu unless Furcal isn't resigned.
2008-08-28 15:48:33
24.   underdog
If we don't resign Blake though, shouldn't we at least bring back Furcal unless his prognosis is really iffy? I love the youth movement as much as anyone but not sure I want to start the season with basically all rookies plus Loney in the infield...
2008-08-28 15:49:10
25.   Jon Weisman
I wouldn't take Jayson Stark's word on the Dodgers for anything.
2008-08-28 15:49:40
26.   cargill06
They could be thinking, re-sign Blake or Furcal, than go from there.

If they sign Blake than you got Blake, Hu, DeWitt

If you sign Furcal than you gut DeWitt, Furcal, Hu

2008-08-28 15:50:51
27.   underdog
That's probably about right. Or Hu-dson. ;-)

Even if they resign Blake, don't the Dodgers stand to have some extra draft picks next year anyway?

2008-08-28 15:51:32
28.   Tripon
25 I thought Stark was just posting what was said to him from scouts around the Majors. Its not like this was a hit piece ala his crap against Manny.
2008-08-28 15:52:10
29.   Eric Stephen
Jon, I like the "assigned for designation", by the way.
2008-08-28 15:54:35
30.   trainwreck
24
Do we have that many better options? I would rather see the young guys stink than watch Casey Blake stink.
2008-08-28 15:56:03
31.   dzzrtRatt
Maybe LaRoche has a thyroid problem.
2008-08-28 15:56:11
32.   Jon Weisman
28 - More anonymous sources that can say whatever they want. Just because Stark writes the Dodgers have interest in signing Casey Blake doesn't mean it's any more likely to happen.
2008-08-28 16:00:17
33.   sporky
30 They'd be cheaper stinkers, too.
2008-08-28 16:01:23
34.   trainwreck
33
Yeah, that is part of the point.

We really should have gone into full rebuild mode a year ago, but they keep saying that LA won't stand for that nonsense.

2008-08-28 16:02:39
35.   Tripon
Man, the Sun Times is really promoting the end of Mariotti.

Found in a thread on BTF:

http://i33.tinypic.com/213lx0h.jpg

2008-08-28 16:04:16
36.   sporky
35 No way...
2008-08-28 16:05:19
37.   MJW101
Maybe now that Blake is on a hitting streak we should trade him back to Cleveland for Santana.
2008-08-28 16:05:25
38.   Tripon
http://www.suntimes.com/news/commentary/letters/1132064,CST-SPT-jayreax28.article

reader comments on the firing. Makes me wonder what the response to be to a Plaschke firing would do.

2008-08-28 16:10:27
39.   dzzrtRatt
Hmm, Manny batting third, ahead of Kent.
2008-08-28 16:10:29
40.   MJW101
If Ned & Co really wanted a PVL 3b that can actually play defense and hit they should have traded for M. Mora since he is also signed for 2009. Maybe, this offseason?
2008-08-28 16:12:01
41.   Tripon
40 Mora would have cost more than what we gave up acquire Casey Blake.

At least another player of Meloan's caliber. Like Bryan Morris.

2008-08-28 16:13:24
42.   trainwreck
40
Let's not trade any more prospects away. We need to make sure to have good depth in the minors.
2008-08-28 16:13:44
43.   underdog
30 Oh very possibly. I wouldn't mind having Blake around as a fill-in guy but he'd be too overpriced for that. There may very well be better options out there. I just didn't see that many ML-ready options for third within the Dodgers' organization other than DeWitt, if he is indeed being switched to 2nd next year.
2008-08-28 16:14:12
44.   thinkblue88
woo hooo!!!
2008-08-28 16:14:15
45.   dzzrtRatt
Man, I'll be glad to stop having to watch the Dodgers play through the Goodyear Blimp. They look like ants.

It's many years off, but what do the Nats plan to do if they're ever in the postseason? I can't think the networks would want to show a World Series game from that angle.

2008-08-28 16:14:44
46.   bhsportsguy
38 Plaschke, at least from what I can tell, does go out to games and face his subjects.

Apparently Manny needs Jeff Kent to protect him.

2008-08-28 16:14:52
47.   Jon Weisman
Here come the Kent protecting Manny stories ...
2008-08-28 16:15:07
48.   underdog
Well, that didn't take long! 2-zip Dodgers in the first after a Manny 2 run blast.
2008-08-28 16:15:11
49.   fanerman
Wait. You can score more than one run on a home run?
2008-08-28 16:15:45
50.   underdog
47 - LOL. Whatever works, man, whatever works.
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2008-08-28 16:15:45
51.   sporky
Oh shoot... there's a game on.
2008-08-28 16:15:48
52.   bhsportsguy
42 There was going to be a time when these types of trade were going to be made, it happens in every organization (okay the Angels don't but they may wait too late at times).
2008-08-28 16:16:36
53.   trainwreck
I forgot there is baseball on today. Got college football on the brain.
2008-08-28 16:17:15
54.   Jon Weisman
53 - So you're saying that tonight is reserved for Stanford-Oregon State thoughts?
2008-08-28 16:17:20
55.   underdog
Lannan's off to just the kind of horrible start the Dodgers needed.
2008-08-28 16:17:42
56.   bhsportsguy
38 I think from the local teams and athletes in general perspective, Mariotti just attacked but never faced his subjects, so they felt he couldn't know the whole story since he never went down there.
2008-08-28 16:17:54
57.   trainwreck
52
Oh I know that. One of the reasons you build a strong farm system with a lot of depth is to trade players to improve the big league team.

Our system is just getting a bit thin it seems.

2008-08-28 16:18:07
58.   underdog
One of the women on our soccer team couldn't make our practice tonight because she's going to that Stanford game. I said, incredulously, "college football already?!"
2008-08-28 16:18:09
59.   arborial
if we score 10 runs tonight I am going to be sour that we couldn't spread that out over the series and win all 3
2008-08-28 16:18:10
60.   Dane Bramage
Hoo, let's make this one a laffer that Kershaw can comfortably go the distance with!
2008-08-28 16:18:28
61.   bhsportsguy
53 He's on a 97 hour countdown before the UCLA game.
2008-08-28 16:18:40
62.   Sam DC
John Lannan is on my son's fantasy baseball team.

Bob is doubly happy with this game.

2008-08-28 16:18:48
63.   trainwreck
54
I actually literally forgot about baseball, but I will definitely be watching that game if people want to talk about it.
2008-08-28 16:19:26
64.   Megaballs
As the Ned Colletti Reign of Error comes to an end, does anyone have a tally on the number of prospects Ned's traded in the past three years?

2008 count is 7.

Thank you.

2008-08-28 16:19:48
65.   Gen3Blue
If anything is broken in Loney's hand, I might actually admit defeat. He is one of our few solid citizens. Not yet though.
2008-08-28 16:20:04
66.   bhsportsguy
57 Actually, the one thing I worry about his how Withrow and Ethan Martin will turn out since you really can't count on much beyond your first round pick. (The Dodgers have done great at lower picks but you make the biggest gains at your first pick)
2008-08-28 16:21:17
67.   underdog
Letting Lannan off the hook a bit there, though I won't carp about getting a couple of runs at least.
2008-08-28 16:22:21
68.   trainwreck
66
I know this is probably blasphemy, but I wish we would stop drafting a high school pitcher every year in the first round. Can't we get some hitters?
2008-08-28 16:22:23
69.   underdog
Speaking of prospects, do we think we'll see Scott Elbert called up when rosters expand?
2008-08-28 16:22:39
70.   Tripon
Wait, Loney's hand is broken?
2008-08-28 16:23:16
71.   underdog
68 - I was kinda hoping that this year, though I wasn't expecting it from pitcher-happy Logan White. And I do agree with him that you can never have enough top pitching prospects. But yeah, a hitter picked high would've been nice for a change.
2008-08-28 16:23:16
72.   bhsportsguy
64 I think he will be a lame duck GM in 2009. Of course, McCourt could surprise us all and give him an extension in September. From a organizational stability move, that would be the best thing to do so people don't ask questions about that.
2008-08-28 16:24:25
73.   bhsportsguy
68 White has said repeatedly, predicting hitters is just a lot harder than pitchers.
2008-08-28 16:26:21
74.   underdog
No, Loney's hand isn't broken. He was HBP but is still in there and looks fine.

--
Argh, Clayton, don't do that!

2008-08-28 16:27:19
75.   underdog
Can't we just have an easy game for once? No, I guess not.
2008-08-28 16:28:06
76.   bhsportsguy
75 No matter how bad this team is, if you just throw fastballs, you will get hit.
2008-08-28 16:28:42
77.   Dane Bramage
Again, like Prometheus, we are doomed to get our very heart/liver/spleen whatever pecked out by these pesky vultures day after day...
2008-08-28 16:28:51
78.   regfairfield
64 Before 2008 (prospect defined as less than one year of service time, actual skill need not apply):
Steve Schmoll, Edwin Jackson, Chuck Tiffany, Jarrod Plummer, Cody Ross, Dioner Navarro, Justin Ruggiano, Blake Johnson, Julio Pimental, Willy Aybar, Joel Guzman, Sergio Pedroza, Jhonny Nunez, Travis Denker
2008-08-28 16:28:59
79.   sporky
When's the last time Kershaw threw his changeup?
2008-08-28 16:29:45
80.   Tripon
We drafted Lambo in the 4th round in 2007. Its not as if you have to be a first rounder to be assured of success.
2008-08-28 16:30:08
81.   Neal Pollack
Who wants to bet that Blake strikeout after two gift baserunners comes back to haunt us? Wasn't this team good two weeks ago? What the hell happened? Embarrassing.
2008-08-28 16:32:27
82.   underdog
79 - Looked like he threw it once this inning to get the first batter out and then that was it, as far as I could see.

Sigh, settle down Young Kershaw.

2008-08-28 16:32:31
83.   bhsportsguy
80 Yeah but historically, the rate of major league success falls dramatically after the first round. Of course that could change a little due to the recent trend of giving out higher bonuses to lower round picks.
2008-08-28 16:32:37
84.   Lexinthedena
80 Not the best example. Lambo was a 1st round talent with character issues. I agree with you though.
2008-08-28 16:32:57
85.   Tripon
And Clayton Kershaw loses his luster.
2008-08-28 16:33:03
86.   sporky
This can't be happening.
2008-08-28 16:33:06
87.   Neal Pollack
Oy.
2008-08-28 16:33:24
88.   GMac In The 909
This stinks.
2008-08-28 16:33:39
89.   trainwreck
A fastball down the middle, I do not know the results yet, but that can't be good.
2008-08-28 16:33:57
90.   trainwreck
Yep, it's what I thought.
2008-08-28 16:33:58
91.   dzzrtRatt
Oh my. Wow. Like...huh.
2008-08-28 16:34:21
92.   GMac In The 909
Pigskin, take me away.
2008-08-28 16:34:39
93.   dzzrtRatt
For those who can't hear Charlie Steiner, he pointed out Kershaw's road ERA is 5.79.
2008-08-28 16:35:00
94.   fanerman
Egads.
2008-08-28 16:35:01
95.   underdog
Oy vey, in fact.

From 2-0 to 2-5 just like that.

All part of the sometimes painfultowatch learning experience.

The thing is, this game can be had still because Lannan looks hittable. But only if we don't give them 10 runs.

2008-08-28 16:35:18
96.   scareduck
Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot. Over.

Just got back to the office, the Dodgers are down three, and the inning ain't over yet?

I assume the quietude of the crowd is due to the fact that nobody's in the stands.

2008-08-28 16:35:34
97.   Dane Bramage
Just like that, we are now playing catchup.
2008-08-28 16:35:34
98.   Harold M Johnson
oh... no. man. hmm.
2008-08-28 16:35:54
99.   Kevin Lewis
Holy cow. I looked away and it was 2-0. I come back and it is 5-2?

I am sad

2008-08-28 16:35:56
100.   GMac In The 909
Is JJJ warming yet?
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2008-08-28 16:36:31
101.   underdog
Oh well. I guess when you're only 12 years old, it's hard to be perfect all the time.
2008-08-28 16:37:01
102.   trainwreck
Oh we're never gonna survive unless
We get a little crazy
2008-08-28 16:37:12
103.   ToyCannon
A few more games like this and Kershaw's innings will be low enough to allow him to pitch in the playoffs.
2008-08-28 16:37:12
104.   scareduck
72 - and then he will fire Colletti mid-season 2009. To show he cares.
2008-08-28 16:37:39
105.   Gen3Blue
I can't believe this. but I have had a feeling they were sort of doing an Edwin Jackson on Kershaw. But I believe the kid can take it and will be fine by the time he's 22 or 3. But the teams we play smell blood, and those in the western division even more so.

The only good thing that could happen is the team rallying around now to end this madness, perhaps to protect Kershaw.

2008-08-28 16:38:31
106.   scareduck
Wil Freaking Nieves almost gets one out.
2008-08-28 16:39:08
107.   bhsportsguy
105 There's a difference, they actually had a plan with Kershaw, Jim Tracy never had a plan with Jackson.
2008-08-28 16:39:55
108.   underdog
Oh well. He got out of it at least. No harm done. (Cough) Er, some harm done. Okay, a lot of harm done.

Still, I wouldn't give up on this game...

2008-08-28 16:40:15
109.   ToyCannon
Maybe Kershaw will follow Beckett to visit Dr. Andrews?
2008-08-28 16:40:33
110.   bhsportsguy
And I think you have to believe, Kershaw has probably tried to be a little extra fine in these last couple of starts and he might be a little to hyped up.
2008-08-28 16:40:53
111.   Zach the Ripper
I'm sorry to say it, but if we get swept by the Nationals we are officially the laughingstock of baseball.
2008-08-28 16:41:03
112.   bhsportsguy
109 You think he's hurt?
2008-08-28 16:41:30
113.   ToyCannon
107
I'm not a Jim Tracy fan but come on. He came up and won one of the great debuts of our time. Expectations were in order.
2008-08-28 16:42:03
114.   I Love LA
wow we are just ridiculously bad. I can't wait unil Sunday night when we are 6.5 games back and be in 3rd place. This is depressing. Please for the sake of baseball can we just forfeit our remaining games?
2008-08-28 16:42:12
115.   bhsportsguy
111 And the Mets who got beat my the Nationals late last year to knock them out of the playoffs, were they the laughingstock of the league?

(Okay, maybe a bad example)

2008-08-28 16:42:57
116.   trainwreck
114
Your handle followed by your message makes that funny.
2008-08-28 16:43:00
117.   Tripon
Yeah, the D'Backs don't have to worry about us.
2008-08-28 16:43:20
118.   bhsportsguy
113 No, I'm just saying there was never a stated plan except for when Tracy said Jackson had the 5th spot to lose in ST, and Jackson lost it.
2008-08-28 16:43:35
119.   ToyCannon
112
No, I've been worried about Kershaw blowing out his arm ever since he arrived. It was the reason for the Minotaur nickname in the first place.
2008-08-28 16:44:09
120.   worz
Wow! I logged in, saw the score and my first thought was that it was left over from yesterday. Holy cow! This is getting really ridiculous.
2008-08-28 16:44:12
121.   oshea2002
We're an average team, although I would argue that with our talent we should be better. But we're not, so the team will be streaky. But this is bordering on the insane.
2008-08-28 16:44:57
122.   trainwreck
Oregon State/Stanford thoughts is not looking so bad now is it?
2008-08-28 16:46:00
123.   underdog
Please people. Forfeit? Give up? The Dbacks will beat up on us? They're just as bad as we are these days! Never give up, never surrender!

Activate the Omega 13.

2008-08-28 16:46:09
124.   Tripon
At the moment, we're a below average team. Really, we're not better than the Giants, Rockies, or Padres at the moment.
2008-08-28 16:46:24
125.   Lexinthedena
Everyone is giving up on the team now. I never really felt like the Dodgers had a chance with Berroa/Nomar/kent up the middle, a team can not win with that as it's defensive backbone. That being said, this team is not out of it in the horrible west.
2008-08-28 16:46:59
126.   oshea2002
122 - for some weird reason I'm liking the Tree. Oregon state always starts slow and f