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Omen? Nemo
2008-10-10 12:00
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

Dodger Thoughts, September 18, 2007:

I do keep thinking about that error Rafael Furcal made 11 days ago in San Francisco. The team was on such a roll before that inadvertent stumble. For me, so much changed from that point on. It's been uphill ever since.
The irrational part of me worries about a repeat. Not just because Furcal's error Thursday pivoted a win into a loss, but the idea that it could be a harbinger of the good times no longer rolling.

That being said, I'm not overcome by a doomsday feeling. I'll be on the edge of my seat today the same way I was for Game 1.

* * *

Dodgers at Phillies, 1:35 p.m.

Some computer-bound folks found this link useful.

Comments (1105)
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2008-10-10 12:03:50
1.   ToyCannon
That is just hurtful to bring that up.
2008-10-10 12:04:15
2.   Who Is Karim Garcia
agreed.
2008-10-10 12:05:34
3.   Linkmeister
What's that cliché? "From little acorns mighty oak trees grow."

Let's hope that error isn't a harbinger of doom.

To be clear, I don't think things like that carry over from game to game.

2008-10-10 12:07:29
4.   Bluebleeder87
gee thanks Jon...
2008-10-10 12:07:39
5.   Kevin Lewis
LAT'ed twice in one day!

40. Kevin Lewis
Does anyone know if the "Fox Feeds" link will actually play the game over MLB.com?

2008-10-10 12:07:46
6.   Jim Hitchcock
4 Unless you're the Cubs...
2008-10-10 12:08:12
7.   Kevin Lewis
Scratch that...I actually clicked on Jon's link and found the answer
2008-10-10 12:08:43
8.   Jim Hitchcock
Whoops, meant 3 . Oh, and we're not the Cubs.
2008-10-10 12:10:50
9.   fanerman
I think I was at that game.
2008-10-10 12:13:01
10.   Jon Weisman
It's amazing to think the Dodgers could still have 13 games left. Imagine how strung out we'll be if we go that far.
2008-10-10 12:13:37
11.   Alex41592
These things change quickly. With the weird shadows and awkward timing of today's game I expect something weird on the field today. Hopefully, to our advantage. Perhaps the baseball gods way of making up for Kemp losing the ball in the sun back in August in Philly.
2008-10-10 12:17:46
12.   Alex41592
Also, look for Nomar to start somewhere in Game 3.

Nomar vs. Jamie Moyer:

15 for 36

.417/.432/.722/1.155

2008-10-10 12:26:31
13.   JoeyP
I cant remember the last time the Dodgers had so many veteran free agents:

Furcal
Lowe
Manny
Blake
Kent
Nomar
Penny (option)

Do the Dodgers re-up any of them?
Does how far they go in the playoffs affect whether they are re-signed?

I think if the Dodgers win the NLCS, the pressure will be on the GM to bring them all back. However, if it loses, I could see the decisions being easier publically for going a different direction (and Ned & McCourt have always been about public relations-1st, baseball decisions-2nd).

2008-10-10 12:27:16
14.   DBrim
RIP Charlie Manuel's mom. That's so sad, and it really sucks to happen now, too. I wish him all the best.
2008-10-10 12:29:54
15.   ToyCannon
13
Who cares as we are still playing baseball on Oct 10th for the 1st time in 20 years. Unlike years past we don't need to talk about next year, this year is still happening.
2008-10-10 12:31:52
16.   Disabled List
I think we will make efforts to re-sign Nomar, Furcal and Manny (I'm optimistic).

Bye bye Blake, Penny, Lowe and Kent.

2008-10-10 12:33:46
17.   ToyCannon
http://tinyurl.com/3pr8as

Strange story, what possible benefit would Magic have had to fake his Aids. Can anyone say anything with a mike? I've never quite understood libel laws.

2008-10-10 12:38:21
18.   Bob Timmermann
17
As a public figure, Magic Johnson would face a very, very tough battle to get any monetary damages from those characters for libel or slander.
2008-10-10 12:38:39
19.   dzzrtRatt
16 I think we'll try to resign Lowe, too.

I think we'll drive a pretty hard bargain for Furcal and Nomar. They might not be impressed and are 50-50 to go elsewhere.

I think we're in the hunt for Manny at whatever price.

2008-10-10 12:41:01
20.   D4P
If we do sign Manny, who plays centerfield, and what happens to the two other guys not playing centerfield?
2008-10-10 12:42:10
21.   Eric Stephen
17
I would like to channel my rage into today's baseball game, so here goes:

One of the radio hosts in question is named Chris Baker. Today, this article ran about Phillies fans:

http://tinyurl.com/4lfw9k

The first sentence: "Chris Baker doesn't have to wear his Phillies loyalty on his sleeve — he's got it tattooed on his arm."

Transitive property:

a) Chris Baker thinks Magic faked AIDS (even though Magic doesn't have AIDS; he's HIV positive)

b) Chris Baker is a Phillies fan with a tattoo on his arm

c) Phillies' fans think Magic Johnson faked AIDS

Dodgers 8, Phillies 2

(wood knocked)

2008-10-10 12:45:50
22.   underdog
Yep, Fanerman and I were both at that fateful game in SF last year. Glad to know the omen, or the blame can go to Raffy, since we weren't at last night's game; for awhile I thought it was our fault. Whew!

Oh, and Bob, from previous thread re: elderly parents of elderly people -- it's true. My grandfather passed away late last year at the age of 100 just months before my dad turned 70, and was pretty healthy up until his last few months. May we all live that long.

Here's to a reverse of yesterday's score.

2008-10-10 12:45:52
23.   FirstMohican
13 - Even if the Dodgers win it all, I don't see how they could possibly afford to resign all.

Here's a shot in the dark at their 09 salaries:

Furcal -15M
Lowe - 15M
Manny - 25M
Blake - 10M
Kent - 5M
Nomar - 5M
Penny - 9M

That's around 85M for 7 players.

2008-10-10 12:46:55
24.   trainwreck
21
Of course he is a Phillies fan. ; )
2008-10-10 12:47:56
25.   fanerman
20 I thought the phrase "who plays centerfield" was a modifier for Manny and not an independent clause.

I have no idea if I'm using those words properly but I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about.

2008-10-10 12:48:33
26.   JoeyP
15- I think its relevant because how the team does in this game, and the rest of the series will go a long way towards deciding if this team comes back or is revamped.
2008-10-10 12:51:08
27.   underdog
23 Kent, Nomar and I'm pretty sure Penny are not coming back. You can scratch them off the list, imho. Lowe is doubtful, though I wouldn't mind bringing him back. Even if they try to re-sign him, I picture him heading east next year. To me, Furcal, Manny and Blake (possibly in that order) are the only ones there's a decent chance they'll try to bring back.
2008-10-10 12:52:22
28.   wronghanded
Oh wow, the game starts at 1:35 PST? I was trying to schedule my lunch break for the first few innings and was packing up to leave... thank goodness I checked Dodger Thoughts.
2008-10-10 12:53:54
29.   fordprefect
Sorry if this has been brought up already, but did Vin make the trip back east for these games?
2008-10-10 12:54:30
30.   FirstMohican
27 - Agreed, yet I wasn't by any means advocating for their return. I was just estimating what they'd all make to point out that they couldn't possibly all be resigned by the Dodgers.
2008-10-10 12:54:57
31.   Eric Stephen
26
But as a fan, are you rooting for them to win today or in the next two weeks because of how it affects the offseason, or because you want them to win?
2008-10-10 12:54:59
32.   Alex41592
29 - Yes. He'll call every remaining Dodger game this season on radio only.
2008-10-10 12:55:13
33.   Eric Stephen
29
Yes
2008-10-10 12:55:24
34.   Who Is Karim Garcia
23

Whoever gives Blake 10 million a year deserves to be fired. From everything. For the rest of their life.

I also believe that Manny is rumored to be asking for 5yrs, 80mil.

2008-10-10 12:56:05
35.   fanerman
34 5 years 80 million seems a bit low.
2008-10-10 12:59:39
36.   Jon Weisman
35 - The rumor was 5/85, but like most rumors, it didn't seem credible to me.
2008-10-10 12:59:50
37.   Disabled List
27 I think Nomar will be back. Where else would he go? Unless he reallyreallyreally wants a guaranteed starting job, and there's another team out there willing to give him one, I think his best option is to come back to LA and be Mr. SuperSub bench guy again.
2008-10-10 13:00:41
38.   Jon Weisman
Maybe Manny ends up with a contract below $20 million a year, but there's no way that's his asking price. Not after he opted out of two years of options at more than $20m.
2008-10-10 13:01:05
39.   Bob Timmermann
For those of you not marshaling at home, Cloris Leachman will be the grand marshal for the 2009 Tournament of Roses.
2008-10-10 13:01:28
40.   underdog
34 He'll regret it. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of his life.
2008-10-10 13:01:41
41.   wronghanded
I think 4/85 seems more realistic.
2008-10-10 13:01:56
42.   Who Is Karim Garcia
35

FWIW, here is the link that says that Boras wants at least 5yrs 85.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/oct/06/postseason-insider-beckett-says-his-ok-others-thin/?partner=RSS

2008-10-10 13:03:45
43.   Who Is Karim Garcia
38

The way the picture is being painted it seems more to me that Manny letting those two years go has more to do with leaving Boston and Boras making sure he got himself paid.

2008-10-10 13:05:49
44.   FirstMohican
Fox had music from a christian punk band during the intro to the game... odd choice for baseball. Wonder how they picked that song.
2008-10-10 13:06:50
45.   FirstMohican
34 - You familiar with the phrase "shot in the dark"?
2008-10-10 13:08:14
46.   Jon Weisman
42 - "Agent Scott Boras has let it be known through his media outlets"

Who actually spoke to Boras?

2008-10-10 13:11:52
47.   D4P
Who actually spoke to Boras?

Wasn't me. I wouldn't give that guy the time of day.

2008-10-10 13:13:06
48.   Bumsrap
I think the Angels will be in the Manny game next year if they do not sign Teireira. The Dodgers might try to get Lowe if they don't get CC and that will be the backup plan for lots of teams.
2008-10-10 13:13:11
49.   Jon Weisman
47 - Would you give him the wrong time of day, just to throw him off the scent?
2008-10-10 13:15:02
50.   Who Is Karim Garcia
34

Wasn't criticizing you, sorry. I don't think your numbers are that far off. Blake at 10mil would be a blunder, however.

46
Like I said, for what it's worth. Manny has made a splash here and hasn't shown much of a decline, however, I find it hard to believe that Manny will get the 5yr, 100mil that I heard thrown around before.

Anyone have a feed for the game? Other than the fox feed, that is.

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2008-10-10 13:17:46
51.   Frip
I wish the Dodgers weren't playing today. I hate being disappointed on a Friday. Like the teacher giving a really hard math test just before the weekend. They better win today, so I can be a happy drunk tonight. If not, WATCH OUT INLAND EMPIRE!
2008-10-10 13:17:51
52.   Bumsrap
I am getting a little bored, anybody have any ideas as to what I could do?
2008-10-10 13:18:40
53.   D4P
49
Aah, who am I kidding. The guy probably has a Rolex on every appendage.
2008-10-10 13:19:47
54.   Bumsrap
53 - ouch
2008-10-10 13:21:35
55.   Who Is Karim Garcia
53 Maybe that's what happened to Winslow?
2008-10-10 13:24:38
56.   KG16
when you get that feeling of impending doom, you just have to remember: past success (or failure) is not an indication of future success (or failure); all that matters is the here and now, play the game in front of you and let the universe take care of everything else.
2008-10-10 13:27:04
57.   KG16
also, thanks for the fox feed link. i was trying to figure out how to get the wide screen off the conference room wall and into my office, and then how to hook up the cable. this is much easier.
2008-10-10 13:27:40
58.   Disabled List
55 Please. My stomach is still queasy from watching the stock market today. And I still have the game to get through.

I can already tell I'm gonna be visiting with Mr. Daniels and Mr. Beam tonight.

2008-10-10 13:30:06
59.   trainwreck
Feels odd watching Fox at 1:30 in the afternoon on a weekday.
2008-10-10 13:31:13
60.   KG16
59 - yeah, isn't this the time they'd normally have I Love Lucy reruns, or Divorce Court?
2008-10-10 13:35:18
61.   Jim Hitchcock
Well, at least I've got ESPN Radio (sigh).
2008-10-10 13:35:57
62.   DBrim
Fozzy Bear!
2008-10-10 13:36:57
63.   dzzrtRatt
I assume Beimel wrote that? Funny.

He's a dead wringer for the lead actor on "Entourage," eh?

2008-10-10 13:37:10
64.   Kevin Lewis
Is there a link of the actual fox broadcast and not just the 4 camera angle?
2008-10-10 13:37:36
65.   dzzrtRatt
I guess that should be "dead ringer," unless he's taken up doing laundry at a mortuary.
2008-10-10 13:37:39
66.   D4P
Blake "The Baby Mullet" DeWitt
2008-10-10 13:37:42
67.   KG16
funny, gameday is ahead of the fox feed
2008-10-10 13:37:48
68.   Bluebleeder87
61

same here.

2008-10-10 13:37:48
69.   Jacob Burch
They need to let Beimel do all of the lineup annoucements.
2008-10-10 13:38:11
70.   oshea2002
If Philly is gonna go throwback, go 80's.
2008-10-10 13:38:27
71.   D4P
Are those the Phillies's normal uniforms...?
2008-10-10 13:38:40
72.   trainwreck
From the looks of Martin's late reactions, the hitters cannot see anything right now.
2008-10-10 13:38:55
73.   El Lay Dave
Bah, I have an unduckable 2:00 meeting today. Obviously called by a non-baseball fan.
2008-10-10 13:39:43
74.   El Lay Dave
And my firewall prevents anything good from getting through, so I can only follow through DT, yahoo, sportsline or similar.
2008-10-10 13:39:46
75.   trainwreck
Myers throws the ball two feet behind Manny.
2008-10-10 13:39:50
76.   Bluebleeder87
it sounds like his curve is good today, he does throw a very straight fastball though.
2008-10-10 13:39:51
77.   Jim Hitchcock
Wow, will that pitch be off the screen on Gameday?
2008-10-10 13:40:02
78.   fordprefect
uh-oh.
2008-10-10 13:40:03
79.   Jacob Burch
73 Ditto, but it should be short.
2008-10-10 13:40:08
80.   mwhite06
I guess Chad will be throwing some high and tight after all.
2008-10-10 13:40:42
81.   underdog
Hah hah. I'm still chuckling at Beimel's line-up intro. Ethier as "Troy from West Virginia's wannabe."
2008-10-10 13:41:27
82.   D4P
Juussstt a bit inside.
2008-10-10 13:41:35
83.   thinkblue88
Manny goes down swinging, slider low and away.
2008-10-10 13:42:27
84.   Johnson
Seems to me we've had far too many swinging Ks on breaking balls down in this series.
2008-10-10 13:42:34
85.   Bluebleeder87
if Bills is right, I'm expecting a low scoring game today, Myers is on SO FAR.
2008-10-10 13:42:53
86.   El Lay Dave
I noticed that in the ninth last night, Danny Ozark had Jerry Martin take over in left for Greg Luzinski, er, Manuel subbed Bruntlett for Burrell. Not that it mattered.
2008-10-10 13:43:21
87.   Bluebleeder87
Bills is gonna be well rested so I'm expecting 93-95mph heat from him.
2008-10-10 13:43:42
88.   El Lay Dave
79 Not mine. Probably 90 min. min.
2008-10-10 13:44:04
89.   Bluebleeder87
for those watching, is Myers throwing good strikes or are the Dodger hitters swinging at bad pitches?
2008-10-10 13:44:31
90.   El Lay Dave
I thought the Phillies were supposed to be the team that strikes out a lot.
2008-10-10 13:45:45
91.   Jacob Burch
90 There ya go
2008-10-10 13:47:01
92.   Kevin Lewis
These cameras on the fox feed are killing me. How hard would it be for them to be synchronized?
2008-10-10 13:47:15
93.   KG16
89 - a little bit of both. He's got a couple of called strikes on the edges (outside to both Manny and Martin). The missed 3rd strikes look like they'd be called strikes, or at least one's that you have to defend against as a hitter.
2008-10-10 13:47:35
94.   oshea2002
89 - threw some good pitches.
2008-10-10 13:47:51
95.   thinkblue88
89.
Think "effectively wild."
2008-10-10 13:48:53
96.   Alex41592
Umpire is a tad stingy on the lower portion of the plate.
2008-10-10 13:48:54
97.   Blue81
89 I believe both final K pitches would have been called a ball had they not swung.
2008-10-10 13:49:04
98.   Kevin Lewis
Does anyone else not completely trust the Fox Track square?
2008-10-10 13:50:34
99.   El Lay Dave
98 Would Fox lie to you?
2008-10-10 13:50:55
100.   Kevin Lewis
97

I agree

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2008-10-10 13:51:30
101.   bhsportsguy
Sounded like a good inning for Chad, not that many pitches but he took his time delivering them.
2008-10-10 13:51:59
102.   still bevens
Howard not enjoying the steady diet of breaking balls he is being fed.
2008-10-10 13:52:06
103.   Kevin Lewis
99

I would love to see an explanation of how they determine where the pitch was, since any part of the plate can dictate a strike.

2008-10-10 13:52:17
104.   El Lay Dave
91 And again! These playoffs are going to be quite the rite of passage for His Royal Thighness.
2008-10-10 13:52:29
105.   FirstMohican
He was keeping Utley honest at first.
2008-10-10 13:52:44
106.   bhsportsguy
102 If he steps out and starts talking to his bat, watch out.
2008-10-10 13:53:03
107.   Blue81
I don't think I can take a close game today. Get those bats going Blue.
2008-10-10 13:53:29
108.   underdog
Chad's filthy breaking pitches, Howard has no chance at those. On the walk to previous batter, ball 4 sure looked like a strike.

Anyway, if both pitchers are on like this, yeah, this will be a stingy, low scoring game. The shadows at this time of day can't help the hitters either.

2008-10-10 13:54:54
109.   thinkblue88
Woo! Solid base hit by Ethier.
2008-10-10 13:54:57
110.   underdog
Atta boy Dre!

Okay, no DP here please, James.

2008-10-10 13:55:03
111.   Disabled List
The multiple raw camera feeds could be so cool, if they'd just give you the right cameras. Two of the four cameras are pointed at the dugout. Totally worthless. How about a static shot of the whole field, so we can see what happens when a ball is in play?
2008-10-10 13:55:17
112.   trainwreck
Ethier continues to hit.
2008-10-10 13:55:20
113.   FirstMohican
I'm surprised how much love Bills has gotten from TBS & Fox. Until the playoffs, I wasn't convinced anyone outside of LA knew who he was.
2008-10-10 13:55:26
114.   Alex41592
Leadoff base hit for Andre.
2008-10-10 13:55:29
115.   Blue81
106 Cerrano style?
2008-10-10 13:55:40
116.   JJ42
andre ethier, professional hitter.
2008-10-10 13:55:42
117.   Alex41592
Hit and run possibility here.
2008-10-10 13:56:31
118.   underdog
And THAT strike, strike 1, was so far inside, that's ridiculous. Sorry, hate to be all complainy about balls and strikes but that... sheesh.
2008-10-10 13:57:16
119.   JJ42
koufax - wow
2008-10-10 13:57:27
120.   Alex41592
That Myers curveball is breaking late and real quick. It's quite a pitch.
2008-10-10 13:57:28
121.   FirstMohican
Well, the ump is consistent with the stingy zone, at least with Loney AB.
2008-10-10 13:57:46
122.   thinkblue88
Yeah, nice to see Sandy at the game.
2008-10-10 13:57:48
123.   Sam DC
I'll hope on the "runs please" bandwagon -- I only get to watch 15 more minutes!
2008-10-10 13:58:32
124.   FirstMohican
Loney!!!!
2008-10-10 13:58:47
125.   trainwreck
Awww so close to a Loney Bomb.
2008-10-10 13:58:48
126.   Sam DC
(meant hop, but hope works better)

WGJ!!!!!!

2008-10-10 13:58:51
127.   thinkblue88
Loneyy!! ALmost gone!
2008-10-10 13:58:53
128.   Blue81
Just missed. Damn.
2008-10-10 13:59:18
129.   underdog
Does this field have an invisible force field that goes up when the Dodgers hit balls?
2008-10-10 13:59:18
130.   Branch Rickey
I thought this was a bandbox! How does that not get out?
2008-10-10 13:59:50
131.   underdog
126 Either way. Hop springs eternal!
2008-10-10 14:00:13
132.   Alex41592
A groundball scores a run.
2008-10-10 14:00:33
133.   oshea2002
Kemp's gotta come through here
2008-10-10 14:00:47
134.   Bob Timmermann
132
Not one to the pitcher.
2008-10-10 14:00:51
135.   FirstMohican
129... seriously... with a few more feet we could be up 1-0 in the series, and 2-0 in this game.
2008-10-10 14:01:00
136.   trainwreck
Come on, M. Bison.
2008-10-10 14:01:01
137.   oshea2002
uggghhh
2008-10-10 14:01:28
138.   Blue81
What is that swing on strike 2? Are the right handed hitters not seeing the ball?
2008-10-10 14:01:56
139.   JRSarno
Second time this series Kemp has done NOTHING with a runner on third. That's the difference as far as I'm concerned, thus far. Let's go DeWitt!!
2008-10-10 14:02:21
140.   oshea2002
Kemp swung at 2 pitches that were so bad, I think its reasonable to think he (they) weren't seeing the ball.
2008-10-10 14:02:21
141.   trainwreck
138
At least now the shadow is covering the whole infield.
2008-10-10 14:02:54
142.   El Lay Dave
139 Yesterday was with two outs though. If he had K'ed there and hit the fly here.....
2008-10-10 14:02:55
143.   Gilberto Reyes
We will take a run.
2008-10-10 14:03:01
144.   trainwreck
Alright, we got the lead. Let's keep it tonight.
2008-10-10 14:03:05
145.   thinkblue88
Yay! DeWitt!

Come on Beard, drive another run in.

2008-10-10 14:03:06
146.   underdog
There we go, DeWitt. It's what DeBison couldn't DeDo.
2008-10-10 14:03:11
147.   oshea2002
139 - in fairness, the first time was with 2 outs. I'll give you the last ab being bad, but he needed a hit yesterday.
2008-10-10 14:03:21
148.   Alex41592
Nice job DeWitt.
2008-10-10 14:03:30
149.   thinkblue88
Make 'em pay Bills.
2008-10-10 14:03:34
150.   bhsportsguy
Score a run, get Chad up and then lineup turns over.
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2008-10-10 14:03:44
151.   KG16
alright, getting the run in, that'll do, that'll do.
2008-10-10 14:04:06
152.   Bob Timmermann
I believe on Gameday that a sac fly yields "In play, run(s)" but a ground out for a run yields "In play, out(s)"
2008-10-10 14:04:09
153.   Gilberto Reyes
Can Chad help himself? Strikes out half the time according to Vinny.
2008-10-10 14:04:14
154.   underdog
Time for Sir Chadwick to help himself out.
2008-10-10 14:04:16
155.   El Lay Dave
How carefully to pitch to C. Blake here?
2008-10-10 14:04:45
156.   underdog
Darn! He hit that one very solidly, just at someone. Bummer!
2008-10-10 14:04:51
157.   El Lay Dave
155 Very, apparently!
2008-10-10 14:04:51
158.   trainwreck
Damn, Billingsley hit that well just at Werth.
2008-10-10 14:04:53
159.   Bluebleeder87
143

ah how... if anything we QUIETED the Philly crowd.

2008-10-10 14:04:55
160.   oshea2002
Bills hit it good. Not a ton of luck for us so far in the past 24 hours.
2008-10-10 14:05:29
161.   Alex41592
Good contact by Bills. We got one.
2008-10-10 14:05:59
162.   Bluebleeder87
161

one if better than none...

2008-10-10 14:06:26
163.   JRSarno
I'll take it, but I hate tenuous little leads. Oh, do they scare me so.
2008-10-10 14:06:35
164.   Disabled List
Just like after the first inning yesterday. We're up 1-0, but it feels like it should be more.

I hate this ballpark.

2008-10-10 14:06:46
165.   Bluebleeder87
is Bills at 93-95mph or what?
2008-10-10 14:07:02
166.   El Lay Dave
Off to the stupid meeting. Here's hoping I come back to good news.
2008-10-10 14:07:19
167.   Bluebleeder87
in Bills we trust.
2008-10-10 14:07:43
168.   Bluebleeder87
I'm expecting Bills to do away with Werth pretty easy first time around....
2008-10-10 14:08:00
169.   thinkblue88
165.
92-93
2008-10-10 14:08:27
170.   Bluebleeder87
I kind of CAN'T WAIT to get out of work...
2008-10-10 14:08:58
171.   Bluebleeder87
169

Thanks good sir.

2008-10-10 14:09:12
172.   Bluebleeder87
4 outs for Bills 3 K's.
2008-10-10 14:09:45
173.   Johnson
168 You were right.
2008-10-10 14:09:57
174.   Blue81
Filthy!
2008-10-10 14:09:58
175.   thinkblue88
Bills looks sharp!
2008-10-10 14:10:09
176.   underdog
That fastball for strike 3 totally crossed up Burrell.
2008-10-10 14:10:18
177.   Rob M
Chad is on fire.
2008-10-10 14:10:20
178.   Alex41592
Man that is such a great pitch.
2008-10-10 14:10:29
179.   Bob Timmermann
Sadly, Greg Dobbs' middle name is Stuart and not something like Charles.
2008-10-10 14:10:47
180.   dodgerinlv
Would anyone like to see Bison hit in front of Manny to help him get started?
2008-10-10 14:11:00
181.   underdog
Hah. And ditto Werth's strike 3. :-)
2008-10-10 14:11:22
182.   bhsportsguy
Darn, cracked bat single.
2008-10-10 14:11:37
183.   Gilberto Reyes
This game reminds me of 1977. Listening to my transistor radio during lunch time in 7th grade. NLCS. Dodgers vs Phils in Philadelphia. I think it was the game where Happy Hooton couldn't find the plate at the Vet.
2008-10-10 14:12:12
184.   LU Dodger
Show me an announcer who won't exchange common sense, for what sounds good in his own mind, and I'll show you Tim McCarver
2008-10-10 14:12:15
185.   Branch Rickey
176 That strike 3 was a mistake. Martin was calling for it up and out of the strike zone. It was up but high in the zone--not where you want to thow it on a 1-2 count. Luckily he took it!
2008-10-10 14:12:28
186.   bhsportsguy
180 I think Torre likes OBP (surprise!) in front of Manny and Matty just isn't there yet.
2008-10-10 14:12:31
187.   underdog
179 Can you help a fellow third baseman down on his luck?
2008-10-10 14:13:08
188.   Rob M
freaking Ruiz!
2008-10-10 14:13:15
189.   trainwreck
Dagnabbit!
2008-10-10 14:13:22
190.   thinkblue88
Carlos Ruiz?!?!? Are you kidding me?
2008-10-10 14:13:31
191.   bhsportsguy
Its always those guys who kill you.
2008-10-10 14:13:57
192.   trainwreck
...
2008-10-10 14:14:01
193.   Sam in SC
ugh
2008-10-10 14:14:09
194.   Jon Weisman
You guys have to relax on Kemp. He hit three balls to right field yesterday - one for a double. Manny struck out today too, if I recall.
2008-10-10 14:14:10
195.   Rob M
Well that's just lame.
2008-10-10 14:14:40
196.   das411
The big bat of Brett Myers strikes again!
2008-10-10 14:14:54
197.   Alex41592
Ruiz and Myers. Not good.
2008-10-10 14:15:01
198.   Sam DC
Perhaps I need to clarify my hope for runs?
2008-10-10 14:15:07
199.   LU Dodger
Yay! He beats his wife!
2008-10-10 14:15:17
200.   underdog
Jeez. Why did I see that coming? I think Fox jinxed it with their "I'm not a very good hitter" stuff. Feh.
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2008-10-10 14:15:25
201.   oshea2002
Where did this come through? Mows down the 6 good hitters and the stiffs get us.
2008-10-10 14:15:48
202.   trainwreck
So lame.
2008-10-10 14:16:01
204.   Sam in SC
what's the alternative to Kemp? Pierre? shudder
2008-10-10 14:16:07
205.   Dane Bramage
191
Everyone's been talking all week about how solid Philly's lineup is 1-9, and there you have it...
2008-10-10 14:16:12
206.   underdog
hello! If this was the NFL I'd call a time out here.
2008-10-10 14:16:17
207.   thinkblue88
Wow, come on Bills, get it together.
2008-10-10 14:16:32
208.   Alex41592
Oh my gosh.
2008-10-10 14:16:35
209.   Branch Rickey
The Times overview of the Phillies before the series started said their offense isn't the best but it can strike quickly.
Apparently they got that right.
2008-10-10 14:16:43
210.   oshea2002
I think that ball fooled dewitt a bit.
2008-10-10 14:17:04
211.   trainwreck
I hate that stupid chant.
2008-10-10 14:18:21
212.   JRSarno
Dear Chad,

Stop the bleeding.

Sincerely,

The City of Los Angeles

2008-10-10 14:18:31
213.   oshea2002
Bills is throwing a lot of offspeed stuff.
2008-10-10 14:18:42
214.   bearlurker
194 He's got 6Ks and no walks in 18 ABs. He's got to have a better AB in that situation.
2008-10-10 14:18:54
215.   das411
Sorry DTers :(
2008-10-10 14:19:01
216.   trainwreck
I hate the Phillies.
2008-10-10 14:19:44
218.   Gilberto Reyes
Bills needs to stop the bleeding right here. A 3 run deficit is not too bad at this point in the game..
2008-10-10 14:19:48
219.   Alex41592
This is unbelievable.
2008-10-10 14:19:57
220.   underdog
I thought only SF and Boston were allowed to chant "Beat LA"? Isn't in the rules somewhere? Not that I wouldn't ban it entirely if I could.
2008-10-10 14:19:57
221.   JROBB
can someone tell me why they pitched to ruiz with two outs and myers on deck???
2008-10-10 14:20:14
222.   KG16
argh, here's my office wetbar when i need one?
2008-10-10 14:20:42
223.   FirstMohican
This sucks.
2008-10-10 14:20:49
224.   oshea2002
You give up hits to the pitcher, and teams will make you pay. We're still in this game, he just needs to get this guy.
2008-10-10 14:21:42
225.   oshea2002
221 - b/c the runner was on 1st, not 2nd. And Ruiz sucks.
2008-10-10 14:22:09
226.   ToyCannon
221
Because Ruiz sucks and Myers is a good hitting pitcher. You don't walk guys in the 2nd inning when you were dealing like Chad was. The problem wasn't Ruiz it was with the 3 hitters who followed.
2008-10-10 14:22:53
227.   JoeyP
I went back to doing some work around the office after Billingsley had K'ed 4 in his first 1.2 ip.

He's getting killed by 2 out hits.

2008-10-10 14:23:08
228.   Branch Rickey
Doesn't Chad deserve a visit?
2008-10-10 14:23:36
229.   Bob Timmermann
Brett Myers was 4 for 58 in the regular season.
2008-10-10 14:24:12
230.   Jimmyv11
kemp should be taken out of the game for that play or lack there of
2008-10-10 14:24:30
231.   bearlurker
228 He should get pulled, he shouldn't pitch to Howard.
2008-10-10 14:24:31
232.   FirstMohican
Howard could put this game away right here.
2008-10-10 14:24:34
233.   Jacob Burch
Bad meeting, bad bad meeting! Bad luck mojo for Chad. This is all on me.
2008-10-10 14:24:52
234.   Gilberto Reyes
Nobody up in the pen yet according to Vin.
2008-10-10 14:25:10
235.   bhsportsguy
226 I am pretty sure ToyCannon meant Myers was not a good hitting pitcher.
2008-10-10 14:25:12
236.   oshea2002
230 - for what play?
2008-10-10 14:25:16
237.   Jon Weisman
230 - I'm not sure I'm on board with taking out every player who makes an error.
2008-10-10 14:25:55
238.   Gilberto Reyes
Got him.
2008-10-10 14:26:04
239.   underdog
Well, we had that going for us. Which is nice.
2008-10-10 14:26:14
240.   Sam PHL
Well at least Howard can't hit breaking balls.

So who's the long relief man? Kershaw?

2008-10-10 14:26:14
241.   FirstMohican
Anyone else see Howard bobble his head a bit while he holds his bat out towards the pitcher? Odd.
2008-10-10 14:26:23
242.   Humma Kavula
From the good news / bad news file:

Chad struck out the side, but....

2008-10-10 14:26:24
243.   thinkblue88
Strikes out the side!.....

Come on Dodgers, get some runs.

2008-10-10 14:26:31
244.   D4P
I wonder if Howard will ever catch on that every pitch thrown to him is a curveball.
2008-10-10 14:26:56
245.   DBrim
3 runs... in a hitter's park... on a pitcher that's not looking good. Anything is possible.
2008-10-10 14:27:07
246.   Jacob Burch
Great to see Chad get out of it--and given the error and only one XBH, our offense just needs to rally a bit to make Chad good for 5-7 innings.

Let's go Blue!

2008-10-10 14:27:10
247.   Bob Hendley
Well, that was bad. Let's get to this guy (he must be tired from running the bases).
2008-10-10 14:27:20
248.   oshea2002
You simply cannot let awful hitters like Ruiz and Myers beat you. No excuses, Chad needs to get those guys out, period. Let's get one or two back right here and seize the momentum.

Start us off Raffy!

2008-10-10 14:27:25
249.   Disabled List
3-run deficit. That's not fatal in this ballpark. We just have to close it before Philly gets into their pen.
2008-10-10 14:27:37
250.   bhsportsguy
[244} Does it matter if he knows or doesn't know.
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2008-10-10 14:27:37
251.   underdog
Puh-leaze. Were people really talking about pulling Chad, before Howard came up? I mean seriously. It's the second inning. That's how the Phillies score -- in one big burst. He'll be fine. Howard can't hit him to save his life (so far, knock on wood, etc). Take a deep breath, people.
2008-10-10 14:27:45
252.   Jon Weisman
240 - McDonald
2008-10-10 14:27:53
253.   Jimmyv11
237. careless extremely careless and cost us two runs, could have thrown out the pitcher. my contention runs more deep because all he has done is struck out in game 1 and previous series. im in favor of someone who is going to create run opportunities, besides phillies just hit homeruns anyways pierre could have thrown out myers. dang that gets me fired up.
2008-10-10 14:27:58
254.   Gilberto Reyes
230 Settle down. It's the third inning of Game #2.
2008-10-10 14:28:02
255.   thinkblue88
Furcal being 0/5 is not helping our offense.
2008-10-10 14:28:02
256.   JoeyP
47 pitches for Billingley in 2 ip.
2008-10-10 14:28:18
257.   JRSarno
Well, let's hope that this isn't one of those notorious Dodger games (ummm, rather like those 4 in Philadelphia during our epic losing streak) where scoring a run is like drawing blood from a stone.
2008-10-10 14:28:55
258.   Jon Weisman
248 - So in other words, because Ruiz is a .200 hitter, he should be a .000 hitter.
2008-10-10 14:29:00
259.   Crimson Bear
Brutal inning for Kemp. Errors happen but he was casual in retrieving it, costing him at least a shot at Rollins
2008-10-10 14:29:10
260.   JROBB
226
the phillies walked Blake to get to Billz and he almost made them pay for it.
2008-10-10 14:29:10
261.   FirstMohican
Not the way to do it Raffy.
2008-10-10 14:29:16
262.   thinkblue88
0/6.

Furcal needs to be more patient.

2008-10-10 14:29:19
263.   ucladodger
Just an absolute disaster. You guys can blame Kemp all you want, but this is all on Chad. Falling behind Ruiz and grooving a fastball is basically unforgivable. Giving up a hit to Myers is unforgivable. Just absolutely terrible.
2008-10-10 14:29:35
264.   ToyCannon
235
Actually no, I just remember Myers looking good in the CC game with a hit and a walk and I'd never walk an eight hitter without an open base in the 2nd inning.
2008-10-10 14:29:40
265.   das411
Grrr Ryan Howard, what a bum, let's trade 'im for Juan Pierre!!

C'mon DTers, that was the one big inning, at least you have 6 more in which you might score runs...right?

241 - Notice how everybody's homey JI
JIM THOME does that also? Both learned it from none other than Uncle Charlie!

2008-10-10 14:29:44
266.   underdog
Kemp often has a few bad at bats followed by a long double and plenty of offense. The desire to toss him out for -- who exactly -- Pierre? ...is ludicrous, imho.
2008-10-10 14:30:15
267.   Jacob Burch
I may have to retire from the comments section if some of you are this Chicken Little if we drop 0-2.

I will still have my Warm Glass of Weisman before bed, though.

2008-10-10 14:30:58
268.   underdog
Listening to Ken Rosenthal = salt in the wounds.
2008-10-10 14:31:15
269.   thinkblue88
Good job Russ. Get things started for us.
2008-10-10 14:31:27
270.   Jacob Burch
Patience followed by Manny followed by 'Dre. Here we go!
2008-10-10 14:31:58
271.   JRSarno
Well, at least Ken Rosenthal is looking characteristically diahhreal in his sartorial splendor today.
2008-10-10 14:32:00
272.   FirstMohican
265... I was talking more about the curious head rolling/bobbling than the silly bat thing.
2008-10-10 14:32:07
273.   oshea2002
258 - I know he will gets hits. What I'm saying is he's a bad hitter, and Bills is a very good pitcher, so I think for us to win this series we need to totally shut down their bad hitters b/c the top of their lineup will get their hits. In a short series, multiple hits from the 8/9 spots, which they have, can really hurt. IMO.
2008-10-10 14:32:31
274.   Nestor
Better AB from Martin than Furcal (first pitch bunt to pitcher) we need to continue working Meyer and get his pitch count up.
2008-10-10 14:32:35
275.   Jimmyv11
Kemp has done nothing but look lost. even last series, put in someone who understands the need for solid and hard play, i would take pierre at this point
2008-10-10 14:32:47
276.   ToyCannon
266
This ain't July this is Oct. He hasn't had one of those kind of games in months.
2008-10-10 14:33:12
277.   Disabled List
I can't deal with the Fox online feed anymore. I have absolutely no idea what's going on after the ball touches the bat.
2008-10-10 14:33:17
278.   oshea2002
How is any of this Kemp's fault?
2008-10-10 14:33:23
279.   Johnson
275 Approaching rule 8.
2008-10-10 14:33:45
280.   sporky
You guys can't be serious about Kemp.
2008-10-10 14:34:35
281.   Saburo
I use CBS Sportsline at workage. Any place better?
2008-10-10 14:34:57
282.   bhsportsguy
C'mon James do it again.
2008-10-10 14:35:01
283.   Jon Weisman
273 - What you said there is different from what you said in 248.
2008-10-10 14:35:24
284.   trainwreck
Time to drop a Loney Bomb.
2008-10-10 14:35:41
285.   Bob Hendley
Let's go WGJ!
2008-10-10 14:35:54
286.   gpellamjr
It's time for James to come up with his patented Series-Turning Hit!
2008-10-10 14:35:59
287.   ToyCannon
278
None, still ticked about his pathetic ab in the last inning. It will pass but it is amazing how far Ethier has surpassed him.
2008-10-10 14:36:10
288.   JJ42
andre ethier, professional walker.
2008-10-10 14:36:38
289.   gpellamjr
James Loney is awesome.
2008-10-10 14:36:40
290.   Sam PHL
Let's go Matt!
2008-10-10 14:36:43
291.   Humma Kavula
Yay, Loney!
2008-10-10 14:36:47
292.   oshea2002
Great job James!

Silence the doubters Matt!

2008-10-10 14:36:48
293.   Jacob Burch
In play, run(s)
2008-10-10 14:36:57
294.   Jon Weisman
287 - Why is it amazing? Isn't Ethier two or three years older?
2008-10-10 14:36:57
295.   DBrim
Loney's having some great ABs.
2008-10-10 14:36:57
296.   Jimmyv11
Im not asserting that this is Kemp's fault. We need better play from him and as an overall statement I mean better at bats. But carelessness and inches like that mean the difference in playoffs like we learned last night.
2008-10-10 14:36:58
297.   FirstMohican
Chippin away already.
2008-10-10 14:36:58
298.   Blue81
Some life!
2008-10-10 14:36:59
299.   trainwreck
Alright, good job Loney.

Time for the Bison to step up.

2008-10-10 14:36:59
300.   Crimson Bear
Fantastic at bats by Martin, Ethier and Loney. Time for Kemp to atone
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2008-10-10 14:37:01
301.   underdog
And there's one back!

And a Frankie Frisch reference from McCarver.

2008-10-10 14:37:04
302.   JRSarno
Exploiting opportunities. Nice work.
2008-10-10 14:37:09
303.   Nestor
Chip away on the lead. bill's give up 5 innings. we get back in it. It's a long game.
2008-10-10 14:37:13
304.   Alex41592
Got a run back. Nice.
2008-10-10 14:37:17
305.   Bob Hendley
That's it James!
2008-10-10 14:37:18
306.   Gilberto Reyes
Are we going to witness a slugfest?
2008-10-10 14:37:46
307.   Jim Hitchcock
Diggin, diggin, diggin,

Out of the hole we're diggin,

Diggin, diggin, diggin,

Rawhide.

2008-10-10 14:37:56
308.   ToyCannon
Come on Matt make me look stupid.
2008-10-10 14:37:57
309.   oshea2002
283 - I probably should have gone with the second post initially, since that's more of what I meant.
2008-10-10 14:38:06
310.   bhsportsguy
294 And he played 3 years of college ball, plus at least as much minor league time as Kemp.
2008-10-10 14:38:11
311.   Jacob Burch
287 I am as happy with Ethier as anyone (I fell in love with him since his first Dodger double), and I know it's a almost tired excuse, but is it that amazing/surprising given the age difference?
2008-10-10 14:38:18
312.   Jon Weisman
296 - Another statement by a commenter that is more rational than what preceded.

DT Rule 6 exists for a reason - so we don't have to waste time debating big exaggerations.

2008-10-10 14:38:36
313.   Jacob Burch
I Got LAT'd by Jon in the same thread!
2008-10-10 14:39:38
314.   thinkblue88
woooooooooooooooo!!!
2008-10-10 14:39:39
315.   Humma Kavula
That'll work. Bases loaded!
2008-10-10 14:39:50
316.   trainwreck
Nice!

Do it, DeWitt!!!

2008-10-10 14:40:02
317.   bhsportsguy
And are best bases-loaded batter for the year coming up.
2008-10-10 14:40:05
318.   Gilberto Reyes
Should the Phillies pull Dobbs for that error?
2008-10-10 14:40:05
319.   Gagne55
Make em pay for the error
2008-10-10 14:40:07
321.   underdog
Well, that was hit hard, that's for sure. And Fred C Dobbs couldn't handle it.
2008-10-10 14:40:11
322.   FirstMohican
YES! Does the error theory now apply to the Phils?
2008-10-10 14:40:12
323.   JRSarno
The maturation of Blake DeWitt comes to a seminal moment NOW.
2008-10-10 14:40:17
324.   Jacob Burch
And Gameday dies, so I must rely on DT comments!
2008-10-10 14:40:18
325.   Alex41592
DeWitt with the bases loaded!
2008-10-10 14:40:18
326.   Humma Kavula
Blake DeWitt is the favorite player of Bride of Kavula.

Come on, DeWitt! Make the Bride happy!

2008-10-10 14:40:28
327.   Crimson Bear
Second straight game Bison has scorched one right at an infielder
2008-10-10 14:40:30
328.   Bob Hendley
Hit hard and a break. Solution!
2008-10-10 14:40:34
329.   Bob Timmermann
Gameday said "In play, Out(s)"
2008-10-10 14:40:42
330.   das411
uhoh...
2008-10-10 14:41:20
331.   Gilberto Reyes
Crowd wanted that pitch.
2008-10-10 14:41:21
332.   FirstMohican
GREAT take by Dewitt.. Wow..
2008-10-10 14:41:44
333.   Branch Rickey
Wow. That pitch to DeWitt was the same as strike 3 to Howard.
2008-10-10 14:41:58
334.   Humma Kavula
Dah.
2008-10-10 14:42:02
335.   trainwreck
Fudge.
2008-10-10 14:42:36
336.   Jacob Burch
The last times the Dodgers were down by two in this time of the game, magical things occurred.

Keep us in there, Chad!

2008-10-10 14:42:38
337.   LU Dodger
Why do they keepin playing "i love la" on fox.

I'm getting pissed..

2008-10-10 14:42:39
338.   thinkblue88
64 pitches, 3IP for Myers
2008-10-10 14:42:40
339.   Linkmeister
LOB disease comes back. Rats.
2008-10-10 14:42:55
340.   Alex41592
Quite the curveball.
2008-10-10 14:42:56
341.   oshea2002
64 pitches for Myers
2008-10-10 14:43:02
342.   Humma Kavula
64 pitches for Myers through three.
2008-10-10 14:43:10
343.   Bob Hendley
Ok Billz, get into the groove, boy..
2008-10-10 14:43:16
344.   Humma Kavula
rats
2008-10-10 14:43:21
345.   Jimmyv11
does Dewitts lack of experience really affect him in an at bat like that? we certainly can not doubt that he has fielded better then Kent would last night.
2008-10-10 14:43:27
346.   ToyCannon
294
It is amazing to me, Ethier's breakout was unexpected for me.

At least we are turning the lineup and we should see some Philly middle relief. On the downside Chad now gets to face the dreaded bottom of the Phillie lineup.

2008-10-10 14:43:28
347.   Johnson
That's still a good inning. Pushing a run in and loading the bases with 2 out after the big inning for Philly should keep spirits up. This game isn't over yet.
2008-10-10 14:43:29
348.   JRSarno
I wonder if Kent will punch Torre now after that at-bat.
2008-10-10 14:43:44
349.   alex 7
According to gamecenter, Myers is refusing to throw a fastball. Something like 9 straight off-speed pitches there to the last two hitters.

Hopefully it wears him down a bit. He's at 64 pitches after 3 innings.

2008-10-10 14:43:52
350.   Disabled List
This 1-run-at-a-time thing just isn't gonna work in this ballpark, against this team.

We're gonna need some crooked numbers on the board sooner or later

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2008-10-10 14:44:20
351.   briano
The Dodgers are acting as if this is Bob Gibson on the mound. Myers is beatable and Furcal needs to wait for his pitches. Be patient at he plate.
2008-10-10 14:44:49
352.   Jacob Burch
350 I believe three more innings of it in some cases would do the trick.

I wouldn't refuse a multi-run inning from us, on the other hand.

2008-10-10 14:45:08
353.   LoneStar7
The I love LA is bothering me as well, I really thought we could turn this game around, I'm not so sure

We are making Brett work, but the bullpen is no pushover...I'm gonna try my best to stay positive though

2008-10-10 14:45:10
354.   trainwreck
343
Does he have to prove his love to you?
2008-10-10 14:45:13
355.   ucladodger
Myers has been hanging curves all day long. Manny popper one up, Kemp has taken 2 or 3, Dewitt missed a couple. Those are the pitches that need to be hammered.
2008-10-10 14:45:32
356.   FirstMohican
Un freaking believable that Furcal almost got that drive by Burrell.
2008-10-10 14:46:09
357.   Jacob Burch
My bag of chips for a 6-4-3!
2008-10-10 14:46:58
358.   Gilberto Reyes
I don't like to see Davey Lopes coaching at first.
2008-10-10 14:47:00
359.   LoneStar7
trouble
2008-10-10 14:47:06
360.   Gagne55
That double wasn't on a pitch even close to the zone.
2008-10-10 14:47:22
361.   JRSarno
Time to warm up SOMEONE in the bullpen.
2008-10-10 14:47:26
362.   Tangled Up in Blue
on an 0-2 pitch!
2008-10-10 14:47:30
363.   das411
So they play "Rocky" every time the Phils score a run and "I <3 LA" every time the Dodgers do? Nope, that won't get old, not at all...nice hit by JWerth though!
2008-10-10 14:47:34
364.   dzzrtRatt
How did that guy not score on Werth's hit?

I think Billz is about a batter away. He doesn't have it today. Next time.

2008-10-10 14:47:34
365.   ToyCannon
351
If Gibson were pitching it would be 4 - 0 not 4 - 2.
2008-10-10 14:47:37
366.   trainwreck
Just not Bill's day.
2008-10-10 14:47:44
367.   Bob Hendley
351 - I figure that Rafi saw the guy lumbering around the bases and wanted to see if he could field.
2008-10-10 14:47:47
368.   Alex41592
Park is up.
2008-10-10 14:47:56
369.   FirstMohican
Torre... please, no Chan Ho.
2008-10-10 14:48:04
370.   Physics DR
345

In the spirit of things:

Dump DeWitt -- bring back He-must-not-be-named.

2008-10-10 14:48:06
371.   ToyCannon
This is Kershaw's time to play Rick Rhoden.
2008-10-10 14:48:15
372.   Jimmyv11
is this good hitting by philly or bad pitching from Bills? i think the latter. though Chan Ho concerns me to, our defense needs to keep us in this if possible
2008-10-10 14:48:17
373.   Johnson
Phillies' BABIP now at .857 for the day.
2008-10-10 14:48:18
374.   scareduck
Just got here -- for some reason I thought the Dodgers game was tonight.

How did we get here?

2008-10-10 14:49:17
375.   Nestor
Bill's throw a poor 0-2 pitch and 8 of 9 get hit's. We need a DP now from Ruiz.
2008-10-10 14:49:47
376.   Jon Weisman
An intentiaonal walk to load the bases with none out?
2008-10-10 14:49:52
377.   trainwreck
Bringing in Chan Ho again would be like playing with fire.
2008-10-10 14:49:59
378.   bhsportsguy
Kind of reminds me of the bad stretch of Webb and Haren, Lowe and Billingsley were on a row for so long. Hopefully the Dodgers can overcome it.
2008-10-10 14:50:31
379.   Gilberto Reyes
Nice play Loney.
2008-10-10 14:50:33
380.   LoneStar7
huge
2008-10-10 14:50:36
381.   Tangled Up in Blue
Nice play by Martin
2008-10-10 14:50:48
382.   Jacob Burch
376 Furcal doesn't have a Triple Play under the belt doesn't he? Clearly playing the percentages ;-)
2008-10-10 14:51:06
383.   Jimmyv11
376. that worked out thankfully except with all the line drives I wondered about it too
2008-10-10 14:51:08
384.   das411
Ahhhh but thanks to Ruiz not doing what he does best, the GIDP, Brett Myers now has the Dodgers just where they want him!
2008-10-10 14:51:20
385.   Rob M
I hate this game.
2008-10-10 14:51:20
386.   Tangled Up in Blue
You have to be kidding me!!!!!!!!
2008-10-10 14:51:30
387.   thinkblue88
No way...........
2008-10-10 14:51:33
388.   Tangled Up in Blue
first pitch swinging again!
2008-10-10 14:51:44
389.   Woden325
Aw, man. That was painful to watch.
2008-10-10 14:51:44
390.   Humma Kavula
Well, that's too bad.

Anything can happen from here on out, but no matter what happens, it's been a fun season.

2008-10-10 14:51:46
391.   JRSarno
If Brett Myers is the hero, as it appears he is destined to be today, we're done.
2008-10-10 14:51:51
392.   trainwreck
I hope this is not one of those only can beat them at home things.
2008-10-10 14:51:57
393.   thinkblue88
Honestly, my heart just sunk right now....
2008-10-10 14:52:02
394.   Linkmeister
Man. Not Bills' day. Myers?
2008-10-10 14:52:04
395.   underdog
Okay. That is just... ridiculous. Wrong.

And...

Poop. That's all I can think to say. That doesn't violate any rules here or end with me being carted off to the funny farm.

2008-10-10 14:52:05
396.   Alex41592
Just horrible. Bills is done.
2008-10-10 14:52:07
397.   Nestor
Hard to watch. Meyer looks like Hershiser in 88.
2008-10-10 14:52:20
398.   oshea2002
How does Brett Myers of all people deserve luck like this?
2008-10-10 14:52:21
399.   scareduck
Is it just me, or did it suddenly get ugly in here?

Brett Freaking Myers?
BRETT FREAKING MYERS?

That is all. Thank you.

2008-10-10 14:52:22
400.   Gagne55
Myers is a really good hitter today. But why was Loney in?
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2008-10-10 14:52:26
401.   Blue81
What is with those get it over fastballs to Myers? He is swinging the bat well. Breaking ball. Bust him inside. Something.
2008-10-10 14:52:30
402.   ucladodger
What a joke.
2008-10-10 14:52:40
403.   Bob Hendley
Jeez, we got to get this guy out of the game if only to keep him from coming to bat.
2008-10-10 14:52:41
404.   FirstMohican
Looks like the Dodgers left their luck back in the NLDS
2008-10-10 14:52:45
405.   Jimmyv11
seriously the pitcher!?!?!? I really hopes Bills gets the opportunity to redeem himself but he did not help us today, dang Chad.
2008-10-10 14:53:19
406.   JoeyP
How can Chad not K the pitcher?
2008-10-10 14:53:20
407.   Gilberto Reyes
Myers hits have contributed to all 6 runs scoring.
2008-10-10 14:53:40
408.   underdog
Still, I have to say, I can't quite give up on this game yet. Call me crazy (speaking of the funny farm...)
2008-10-10 14:53:50
409.   scareduck
My kind of town, Chicago is.
2008-10-10 14:53:53
410.   Jacob Burch
This is all on underdog for not knocking on enough wood after Bob brought up Myer's batting stats.
2008-10-10 14:54:13
411.   JRSarno
God, I wanna remain positive. I really do. But giving up six runs is not a formula for breeding optimism right now.
2008-10-10 14:54:15
412.   Tangled Up in Blue
I really wanted to see Bills step up and show everyone how good he is. I guess it will have to be game 5??
2008-10-10 14:54:34
413.   jdbeauchamp
In case you were wondering, karma does not exist.
2008-10-10 14:54:39
414.   bferb
Myers (and most of the Phillies hitters) are sitting dead red on first pitch fast balls every time. Why not just start him with a breaking ball!!!!????
2008-10-10 14:54:45
415.   thinkblue88
408.
Not giving up myself either, but man, that hurt to watch.
2008-10-10 14:54:54
416.   bhsportsguy
Billingsley is only 24 and he did not have a good game.
2008-10-10 14:55:05
417.   ucladodger
We're going to go down 2-0 because of the offense of Carlos Ruiz and Brett Myers against one of the 10 best pitchers in the game. Thats just mind-boggling. And to think this all started with Dobbs' broken bat bloop.
2008-10-10 14:55:09
418.   Alex41592
412 - Yes. Hamels vs. Billingsley would be Game 5.
2008-10-10 14:55:25
419.   underdog
I just hope Chad has another chance to prove himself in this series, in game 5 or 6. If they get there.
2008-10-10 14:55:44
420.   Jacob Burch
416 Cut 'em.
2008-10-10 14:55:45
421.   bhsportsguy
When Ruiz, Myers and the Flying Hawaiian have 6 RBI, you are in trouble.
2008-10-10 14:55:51
422.   Humma Kavula
408 Don't give up on the game. Anything can happen. Especially if Myers keeps letting our guys on base.

No matter what happens, though, it's been a fun season. I hope it continues, and if it doesn't, still -- this has been fun.

2008-10-10 14:55:56
423.   Johnson
Let's look on the bright side. This performance by Billingsley* will ensure that he will be severely undervalued in your fantasy league again next year.

*unless he has a couple more solid starts in the postseason, in which case we won't care about today anyhow.

2008-10-10 14:56:34
424.   jdbeauchamp
same exact pitch
2008-10-10 14:56:55
425.   Gilberto Reyes
4 run lead in this ballpark in the 3rd inning is not the end of the world. Many of the people posting here today are acting like Cub fans. The sky is not falling and this game is not over.
2008-10-10 14:56:57
426.   dkminnick
411 - Well it is gonna be a complete backbreaker to the Phillies when we come back and beat them today. It's still early.
2008-10-10 14:56:58
427.   Sushirabbit
3 RBI for myers, wow. And Hamels last night with a hit.
2008-10-10 14:56:59
428.   Tangled Up in Blue
Nice work by Park. I did not expect that.
2008-10-10 14:57:11
429.   bhsportsguy
And I think it is a little early for its been a good season talk.
2008-10-10 14:57:12
430.   Blue81
Man. Did Jimmy Rollins wrong the umpire in the past or what?
2008-10-10 14:57:17
431.   DBrim
Torre pulled a Grady.
2008-10-10 14:57:24
432.   LoneStar7
well I can check "witness dodgers win a playoff series" off the bucket list...I'm not gonna feel entitled to ever winning a WS, especially with all those cubs fans out there in agony.

As said though, this has been an awesome season

2008-10-10 14:57:28
433.   Bob Hendley
I bet that Myers is really tired now.
2008-10-10 14:57:33
434.   Jacob Burch
425 You get a Jacob Burch Golden Star.
2008-10-10 14:58:21
435.   Humma Kavula
429 Maybe I'm phrasing myself badly. What I'm saying is this: losses are no fun, but I didn't expect that the Dodgers would be here in the first place, so I'm enjoying myself no matter what.
2008-10-10 14:58:34
436.   bhsportsguy
431 You mean he should have pulled Chad before pitched to Myers. You can't mean that.
2008-10-10 14:59:00
437.   das411
watch him fly!!
2008-10-10 14:59:04
438.   Jacob Burch
429 Rule 8 or not, I may demand Eric break out the "Started 0-2, Won" stats of Dodger winners and winning opponents early and often on threads here on out.

Of course, such a violation will not be necessary after another Grade A Loney Slam.

2008-10-10 14:59:05
439.   oshea2002
Win or lose today, this series isn't over. They haven't won in LA either, and I really like our pitching matchups in games 3 and 4.
2008-10-10 14:59:08
440.   Gagne55
This is getting really ugly.
2008-10-10 14:59:22
441.   bhsportsguy
Now the Flying Hawaiian has 4 RBI.
2008-10-10 14:59:38
442.   Rob M
Oh, caca. I have to turn off the radio and try and raise my spirits somehow. I'm bummed. I'll check in with you all later.
2008-10-10 14:59:39
443.   Tangled Up in Blue
confidence....decreasing....rapidly....
2008-10-10 14:59:43
444.   dkminnick
Now would be a good time to get James McDonald some work.
2008-10-10 15:00:05
445.   underdog
On the other hand...

Guess it's time to get back to work. :-(

Some of this is just the "where balls land" kind of game. Balls that are caught or not caught, that's what baseball is all about. I thought Ethier had that one at first. What can ya do?

2008-10-10 15:00:09
446.   Frip
So anyway, know any good jokes?
2008-10-10 15:00:10
447.   Alex41592
No matter the outcome of this game. We go home for two games at least where we face Jamie Moyer and Joe Blanton. Phillies have held serve.
2008-10-10 15:00:26
448.   Jacob Burch
Is there a Cycle in an inning alarm somewhere in Bob's bag of tricks?
2008-10-10 15:00:53
449.   scareduck
423 - and any more bad postseason outings will put him in Don Newcombe category.

8-2, and Gameday Audio just cut out. Perhaps for the best.

2008-10-10 15:00:53
450.   Blue81
445 Drink.
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2008-10-10 15:00:59
451.   JRSarno
Look guys, all we have to do is score a touchdown, then we'll be up by 1.
2008-10-10 15:01:05
452.   Bob Timmermann
448
No, no there is not.
2008-10-10 15:01:24
453.   ucladodger
Never in my wildest dreams would i have thought this would happen with Chad on the mound. After the first 5 outs it was inconceivable. We just need to go back home and win the 3. Kemp and the 2 Blake's need to start producing or we are in even worse trouble.
2008-10-10 15:01:28
454.   JoeyP
This is the Cubs series but the Dodgers are on the other side of it.

Seriously, Park isnt the guy to keep the Dodgers in the game.

2008-10-10 15:02:01
455.   Jacob Burch
I suppose it's up to watching for CI to keep me tangled.

Again, until the Dodgers hit a couple of dingers and are right back at it.

2008-10-10 15:02:16
456.   bhsportsguy
454 Its hard to blame Park when your starter gives up 2 hits to the pitcher.
2008-10-10 15:02:27
457.   ToyCannon
Utely and Howard are hitless and they have 8 runs. Go figure.
2008-10-10 15:02:35
458.   scareduck
449 - that's exaggeration, of course, but no more so than 420 .
2008-10-10 15:02:35
459.   Bob Timmermann
455
Mike Scioscia says hi!
2008-10-10 15:02:47
460.   Woden325
446 Why did a guy throw his spice rack out the window?
2008-10-10 15:02:49
461.   D4P
I assume Bob is getting excited about how long this game has been so far.
2008-10-10 15:02:49
462.   Blue81
453 Whoa. Blake Dewitt is coming through. Great defense. Producing runs. Not necessarily sustaining innings with his AB's. But producing nonetheless.
2008-10-10 15:03:32
463.   bhsportsguy
457 And they have not scored a run either, actually neither has Burrell.
2008-10-10 15:03:34
464.   Nestor
With a bullpen that needs to pitch 2 2/3 last night and at least 5 2/3 tonight, we will need to have Lowe and Bill's come back for game 4 and 5. Time to see how Kershaw and McDonald can do in the postseason.
2008-10-10 15:03:57
465.   Jacob Burch
As I've stated, I'm a fairly good optimist after the fact of these kind of things--it stings, then I remember I'm getting a new bicycle, and I learned how to score a game, and I feel better. I learned this being a fan of Indiana professional sports.

The problem becomes what to do with all my idle time as Sports blogs/new sites do nothing but raise the blood for a week afterward.

2008-10-10 15:04:22
466.   Johnson
Phillies are now 9 for 11 on balls in play, .818 BABIP. Good news, that's unsustainable. Bad news, we're down 6.
2008-10-10 15:04:28
467.   Humma Kavula
446 So there was once this great pitcher named Melvin Famey. Famey was the best pitcher of his day -- strikout king, never let anybody on base. He was amazing.

But Famey had a flaw: he liked the beer. A lot. And he had such sway over his team that he would demand, and receive, a keg in the dugout.

He'd begin the game completely sober and en fuego -- striking out the side. But as he came back to the dugout each inning, he'd have a beer, and another, and another.

Soon, pitching under the influence, he got wild. And then he got very wild. And before long, he was walking everybody -- and in this one particular game, he walked in the winning run.

And as his opponents came off the field, celebrating, one rookie saw the keg in the dugout. He was confused, couldn't figure out what it was. "What is that?" he asked.

"Don't you know?" said his teammate. "That's the beer that made Mel Famey walk us."

2008-10-10 15:04:34
468.   ToyCannon
At least I have the Dodger Ray/Bosox game to look forward to. Edwin Jackson was added to the postseason roster.
2008-10-10 15:04:56
469.   bhsportsguy
Can Ryan Howard make the last out in the first 3 innings? We'll see.
2008-10-10 15:05:14
470.   Jimmyv11
what do i do? do i stop watching turn the tv off altogether? should I put on my dodgers hat? maybe I should go burn the SI cover that is still sitting in my mailbox as i refused to bring into my home
2008-10-10 15:05:18
471.   ucladodger
462

I'm talking offensively. He's OPSing around .500 in the playoffs. Obviously small sample size, but thats what the playoffs are. The bottom of the lineup has been dreadful.

2008-10-10 15:05:22
472.   scareduck
For those watching, do we have another tight strike zone today? Gameday makes it appear so.
2008-10-10 15:05:42
473.   Branch Rickey
Pretty much nothing in baseball is inconceivable. A pitcher with 4 hits all season can get two in one game off one of the best pitchers in the NL. Stuff that crazy happens all the time. If it happens to happen in the playoffs, you die because of it. Not inexcusable and certainly not inconceivable. Just baseball. A short series almost ensures flukes will be the biggest factor.
2008-10-10 15:06:10
474.   Sushirabbit
Look at this like the season. 2/7ths through the season the dodgers were 27-27. Just sayin'.
2008-10-10 15:06:12
475.   JoeyP
Its hard to blame Park when your starter gives up 2 hits to the pitcher.

I dont blame Park.
I blame Torre for bringing him in.

2008-10-10 15:06:28
476.   Bob Timmermann
As a sign in the elevator of my parking garage reads:
"If the elevator should be stuck between floors, do not become alarmed. Instead, press the button marked 'ALARM'"
2008-10-10 15:06:47
477.   LoneStar7
464 is that BN Nestor?..if so hello from Ollie
2008-10-10 15:06:47
478.   Jacob Burch
472 It's a really odd one--he's calling things pretty inconsistently. From what I can tell, he's squeezing high and low, but has a wide range left and right of the plate. But again, not very by-the-vest.
2008-10-10 15:06:52
479.   alex 7
seems like Beimel should have come in first, instead of using Park for two hitters. Guessing Torre was going to bring in Beimel for these lefties regardless of score, so why waste a bullpen arm? I know it's "just" Park, but apparently Joe thinks highly of him.
2008-10-10 15:07:34
480.   D4P
I had no idea James McDonald was black.
2008-10-10 15:07:47
481.   bhsportsguy
471 But the playoffs are such a small sample, you are going to be facing better pitchers and let's face it, no team has everything working in the playoffs.

That's why you see guys like Ruiz get key hits because you can't say you throw him off-speed pitches because he has showed over the course of the season that he can't hit any pitch consistently.

2008-10-10 15:07:50
482.   Jacob Burch
474 I agree that 0-2 is not the end of the world, but they also don't call a team dead if they're down after 4/7ths of the season.
2008-10-10 15:08:30
483.   schoffle
Ok this sucks.

Can someone help me to understand why we are bringing in our only lefty in the 3rd down by 6 with 2 out? If he needs the work why not hold him out for a couple more innings just to see if a high leverage situation presents itself?

Torre really does not impress me.

2008-10-10 15:08:32
484.   ucladodger
473

Chad imploding the way he did after the first 5 outs and with the bottom of the order coming up is inconceivable to me. Brett Myers going 2-2 off of Chad after being 4-58 during the season is inconceivable to me. Doing it in a playoff game with RISP both times is inconveivable to me.

2008-10-10 15:08:54
485.   Tangled Up in Blue
McDonald time!
2008-10-10 15:08:55
486.   MC Safety
Let's go James.
2008-10-10 15:08:59
487.   Bob Timmermann
480
Is he really?
http://griddle.baseballtoaster.com/archives/1156683.html
2008-10-10 15:09:02
488.   Frip
Drinkability? Funny how the motto for an American beer is simply the fact that it's drinkable. Like water, or scary real beer I guess.
2008-10-10 15:09:02
489.   das411
473 - Post of the day so far.

Thanks Joe Torre for letting Brett Myers rest during all of these pitching changes!

2008-10-10 15:09:13
490.   coachjpark
wow
2008-10-10 15:09:21
491.   Crimson Bear
Anyone know if the Dodgers were close to signing Utley after they drafted him out of high school? To think of what could have been...
2008-10-10 15:09:21
492.   scareduck
Now watch McDonald blank the Phils for five.
2008-10-10 15:09:28
493.   underdog
Well, those who wanted McDonald, it appears yer getting yer wish.
2008-10-10 15:09:39
494.   Alex41592
A double switch in the third inning. McDonald will be around for a while.
2008-10-10 15:09:49
495.   trainwreck
This is kind of one of those worst case scenario deals.
2008-10-10 15:10:01
496.   alex 7
here comes the coup de grace. Then Jimmyv11 can go burn the SI and enjoy some time outdoors.
2008-10-10 15:10:01
497.   Bob Timmermann
484
You should check how Don Larsen fared against the Dodgers in his first start against them in the 1956 World Series and compare it to the second start.
2008-10-10 15:10:31
498.   bhsportsguy
483 Because, Beimel hasn't pitched since the end of the season.
2008-10-10 15:10:36
499.   Jimmyv11
anyone got stats on coming back from being down 0-2 in a series?
2008-10-10 15:10:41
500.   Branch Rickey
484 Keep watching for the next however many games there are. I guarantee you that you will see something else that you find inconceivable.
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2008-10-10 15:11:04
501.   D4P
Jeff Kent gets to play.
2008-10-10 15:11:14
502.   Jacob Burch
I have to go back to work, break is over--I'll be back somewhere near the 5th to brood more (possibly unfounded) optimism.
2008-10-10 15:11:15
503.   Alex41592
Kent in, Beimel out. DeWitt out, McDonald in.
2008-10-10 15:11:20
504.   JRSarno
Hmmm, how many Dodgers does it take to get ONE OUT? Just about as many it takes to screw in a lightbulb, apparently.
2008-10-10 15:11:22
505.   JoeyP
Hey there's James McDonald.
Let him pitch the rest of the game.
2008-10-10 15:12:06
506.   Kevin Lewis
This game ain't over!
2008-10-10 15:12:30
507.   MC Safety
Pullin the string.
2008-10-10 15:12:46
508.   Jon Weisman
483 - There were baserunners on in a situation where you didn't want to allow any more runs. That might be the highest leverage situation of the game.
2008-10-10 15:13:28
509.   Gagne55
Well, at least I finally know what James McDonald looks like.
2008-10-10 15:13:29
510.   Jim Hitchcock
I think the Phillie Phanatic needs to be stuffed down a water pipe before we leave town.
2008-10-10 15:13:29
511.   Alex41592
Sick pitch.
2008-10-10 15:13:30
512.   thinkblue88
What a curve!
2008-10-10 15:13:34
513.   Bob Hendley
Kent getting garbage time?
2008-10-10 15:13:35
514.   Jon Weisman
491 - They talked but he wanted to go to college.
2008-10-10 15:14:03
515.   underdog
That curve ball for strike 3 was LOVELY.

After a horrible inning. But at least a positive way to end it. Sort of like getting chocolate mousse for dessert after having a cow patty for dinner.

2008-10-10 15:14:09
516.   trainwreck
McDonald's curveball is a thing of beauty.
2008-10-10 15:14:10
517.   MC Safety
That's my boy right there!
2008-10-10 15:14:11
518.   Jimmyv11
Aight for the sake of my well being, our well being, the dodgers well being Im going to stop being negative and keep hope that this game is not over until the final out. LETS GO DODGERS!!!!!
2008-10-10 15:14:54
519.   Kuo-fax
Small silver lining, but what a pitch by McDonald! Impressive!
2008-10-10 15:15:05
520.   Jon Weisman
473 is all you need to know.
2008-10-10 15:15:14
521.   ToyCannon
Nice baptism - were have some runs in us, not sure if we have enough.
2008-10-10 15:16:06
522.   bhsportsguy
514 Those 11 banners hanging at Pauley was too much of an allure. Oh wait, that's basketball. Why did he want to play baseball at UCLA?
2008-10-10 15:16:12
523.   JRSarno
All I need to know is -- someone should bean Chase Utley.
2008-10-10 15:16:22
524.   Woden325
http://is.gd/3Rcg

The betting has shifted dramatically in the last hour.

2008-10-10 15:16:29
525.   fracule
Who was that idiot doing Chevy commercials on KABC. For the first time in 3 years, I don't miss living in LA.
2008-10-10 15:16:34
526.   Nestor
477 Sorry ollie not the same Nestor but with today's game I'll take all the new friends I can get.
2008-10-10 15:17:04
527.   RL BURNSIDE
I feel like that High Life commercial, "Watching your favorite pitcher get lit up, 'Take him out!'"
2008-10-10 15:17:11
528.   Bob Hendley
Well, we do have some innings to work with.
2008-10-10 15:17:12
529.   Jon Weisman
Padres claim Travis Denker on waivers:

http://itmightbedangerous.blogspot.com/2008/10/claiming-travis-denker.html

2008-10-10 15:17:16
530.   Kuo-fax
6 innings left, anything can happen! C'mon guys!
2008-10-10 15:17:26
531.   Gagne55
Myers may have tightened up with the long layoff. Not all that likely but keep up hope.
2008-10-10 15:17:37
532.   schoffle
508

Really? Seems to me that if down by 6 in the 3rd with 2 out and a man on 3rd becomes the higest leaveraged situation in the game then the Dodgers are toast anyway.

2008-10-10 15:17:38
533.   scooplew
473 Mr. Rickey: Extremely well stated.
2008-10-10 15:17:48
534.   thinkblue88
525.
Ah yeah, I couldn't believe that was real. I thought it was a joke at first.
2008-10-10 15:18:22
535.   Gagne55
Well that was a delayed ask of the first base ump for a strike.
2008-10-10 15:18:52
536.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers have come back from being down 2-0 (each time in the World Series) three times: 1955, 1965, and 1981.
They also came back from being down 2-0 in the 1981 Division Series against the Astros.

They've also blown 2-0 leads in 1956, 1978 (both WS) and the 1985 NLCS.

I think the key for Game 3 is hoping that Fernando doesn't give up a homer to Rick Cerone.

2008-10-10 15:18:58
537.   dkminnick
It is more important now than ever for the Dodgers to work the count, get on base and get into the Phillie middle relievers. This is not over.
2008-10-10 15:19:06
538.   Tangled Up in Blue
Thank you Jeff Kent..
2008-10-10 15:19:12
539.   Gagne55
Easy 6-4-3 off Kent's bat. :(
2008-10-10 15:19:25
540.   Hollywood Joe
Ugh
2008-10-10 15:19:26
541.   Woden325
525 Those commercials are horrible. Between the obnoxious jingoistic copy, and the obnoxious jingoistic actor, it's enough to make me turn off the radio.
2008-10-10 15:19:27
542.   dkminnick
On second thought...
2008-10-10 15:19:49
543.   scareduck
I hate double switches.
2008-10-10 15:19:52
544.   bhsportsguy
536 Each time they won all three games at home.
2008-10-10 15:20:09
545.   jujibee
Let's see if our little spark plug can start getting in a groove.
2008-10-10 15:20:30
546.   regfairfield
529 Who was so important to put on the 40 man that it was worth waiving Denker?
2008-10-10 15:20:35
547.   Gagne55
Lasorda is quitting on the Dodgers?
2008-10-10 15:20:42
548.   bhsportsguy
Monday is talking about the Dodgers playing passive again today.

Furcal gets on base for the first time.

2008-10-10 15:21:10
549.   scareduck
541 - what were they saying?
2008-10-10 15:21:13
550.   thinkblue88
Furcal being Pierre at the plate. Not good for the offense.
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2008-10-10 15:21:13
551.   Crimson Bear
514: thanks Jon
2008-10-10 15:21:16
552.   Bob Timmermann
The 1985 Royals and 1986 Mets both came back from being down 2-0 after losing at home in the World Series.
2008-10-10 15:21:36
553.   jujibee
I'll take it. It's a start isn't it?
2008-10-10 15:21:36
554.   Tangled Up in Blue
Now Martin needs to get on and Manny hit a three run shot
2008-10-10 15:21:58
555.   Hollywood Joe
Free outs - we love free outs

I find myself saying silly stuff to my dog like "ground ball with eyes", "ducks on the pond", and "2 out nightmare"

My dog is nervous but I am strangely calm

2008-10-10 15:22:01
556.   underdog
That was incredibly astute baserunning by Furcal. A lucky break to be sure, but smart to just for for it.
2008-10-10 15:22:02
557.   oshea2002
Manny can give us a "look at the game" here. I hate that phrase.
2008-10-10 15:22:03
558.   Tangled Up in Blue
step 1 complete
2008-10-10 15:22:18
559.   bhsportsguy
546 They added that guy who they drafted this year so maybe they needed the spot as they start pulling guys back from the 60-day.

The Dodgers did come back down 6-1 against the Phillies, Manny started it by hitting I think a 2 run home run.

2008-10-10 15:22:59
560.   Bob Hendley
Manny can change the complextion.
2008-10-10 15:23:45
561.   Humma Kavula
Halved.
2008-10-10 15:23:51
562.   coachjpark
MANNY!
2008-10-10 15:23:55
563.   Gagne55
Manny being Manny!
2008-10-10 15:23:57
564.   Tangled Up in Blue
Bingo!!
2008-10-10 15:23:57
565.   SortaLaSorda
Why is it that managers always seem to wait until the body is in full aorta bleeding mode before making a pitching change? It's not just Blue--I see other managers wait until it's completely gone before making the change...
We have Maddox and co. who can piece this together until we get out of town. Why didn't we yank Bills earlier?
2008-10-10 15:24:00
566.   Branch Rickey
YOU HAVE GOT TO LOVE THAT!
2008-10-10 15:24:02
567.   underdog
YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

YESS!!!!!!

YES!!!

Did I mention, yes?

YES!

2008-10-10 15:24:02
568.   oshea2002
Yes we can!!!!
2008-10-10 15:24:03
569.   thinkblue88
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
2008-10-10 15:24:04
570.   Alex41592
MANNY BRINGS US BACK FROM THE DEAD!
2008-10-10 15:24:09
571.   JRSarno
HOW DID THAT FEEL SO ABSOLUTELY INEVITABLE??
2008-10-10 15:24:18
572.   Kuo-fax
Manny-wood!!!!!
2008-10-10 15:24:19
573.   Hollywood Joe
MANNY MANNY MANNY

Now my dog is really freaked

You dont give free outs!

2008-10-10 15:24:27
574.   scareduck
Dodgers nibbling, Manny style.
2008-10-10 15:24:31
575.   Woden325
549 It's just some guy screaming into the mic about how bad it is to buy Japanese cars, and how macho it is to buy American cars.
It's like 1985 all over again.
2008-10-10 15:24:39
576.   Gagne55
And Kent's DP looms large.
2008-10-10 15:24:41
577.   Bob Hendley
There you go! Now maybe we won't have to see Myers hit.
2008-10-10 15:24:43
578.   Frip
Oh be quiet Buck, stop tyring to give us hope.

I was in the midst of writing the above sentence when Manny hits a home run.

Apologies to Joe Buck.

2008-10-10 15:24:48
579.   Nestor
Thank you Manny!
2008-10-10 15:24:53
580.   fracule
Emmanuel!!
2008-10-10 15:24:59
581.   Bob Timmermann
568
Dialing up some 1979 California Angels nostalgia there with that slogan.
2008-10-10 15:25:03
582.   MC Safety
Heck yeah. Manny's not givin in.
2008-10-10 15:25:04
583.   Alex41592
Manny is fired up!
2008-10-10 15:25:21
584.   Jimmyv11
WE HAVE LIFE!!! YES!!!
2008-10-10 15:25:22
585.   scareduck
565 - I would not trust Maddux in a close game.
2008-10-10 15:25:26
586.   jujibee
The FOX anouncer just said, "He did not hit this ball well!" I guess if your Manny, there are varying degrees of how you can hit a Homerun?
2008-10-10 15:25:30
587.   bhsportsguy
576 Not as large as the wild pitch.
2008-10-10 15:25:32
588.   Icaros
He didn't even hit that hard. Did the league have to approve this ridiculous Little League field?
2008-10-10 15:25:46
589.   Jacob Burch
I was in that odd state of nearly weeping, after shutting the iPhone off seeing "Swinging Strike" on Furcal, when I glanced and saw In Play, run(s). And my mind went "HE didn't. He didn't. Ah heck. I know he did."

I don't care if he's a Met next season. I'm buying a 99 shirt sunday.

2008-10-10 15:25:52
590.   Woden325
"That ball did not sound well." Thank you, Tim McCarver, for that brilliant analysis.
2008-10-10 15:26:11
591.   Gagne55
We're two hours in and not even through the 4th.
2008-10-10 15:26:31
592.   Humma Kavula
575 The worst part of the ad is when he refers -- twice -- to Japan as "Ha-pone." I don't know what that means, but I don't like it.

I do know they the guy repeatedly says, "Buy an American brand," and not "Buy an American-made car."

2008-10-10 15:26:34
593.   bhsportsguy
Well one thing is for sure, the Phillies have almost no scouting info on McDonald.
2008-10-10 15:26:34
594.   MC Safety
Manny callin Myers out. HILARIOUS!
2008-10-10 15:26:39
595.   Hollywood Joe
I feel like taking Mrs. Hollywood into the bedroom right now just so I can name my first born Manny
2008-10-10 15:27:12
596.   Bob Timmermann
580
Veni, veni Emmanuel,
Captivum solve Israel,
Qui gemit in exilio
Privatus Dei Filio.
Gaude, gaude! Emmanuel
nascetur pro te, Israel.
2008-10-10 15:27:20
597.   fracule
588 These new fields are so ridiculously off of what the rule book says is allowed, in size and orientation on the compass. Oh well.
2008-10-10 15:27:22
598.   Jimmyv11
haha little league field. seriously, lets see if those philly bats can hit homers in a real ball park. im flying in for game 3. if its any consellation i have a 1-0 record when attending playoff games.
2008-10-10 15:27:23
599.   jujibee
"If you can't throw it 95, do not go there."

-Manny Ramirez

2008-10-10 15:27:37
600.   JRSarno
I was thinking to myself, "wipe that smile off of Myer's ugly mug," and Jeez, it appears Manny had the same idea in mind.
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2008-10-10 15:27:45
601.   Tangled Up in Blue
McDonald needs to shut them down for a couple of innings so the Dodgers can continue to chip away at this lead.
2008-10-10 15:28:31
602.   Bluebleeder87
oh man. [not in a good way]
2008-10-10 15:28:37
603.   Woden325
592 Agreed.
I find it amusing that he jumps all over the Corolla as being a nasty little import, even though it is built in California at a plant that is partly owned by GM.
2008-10-10 15:28:37
604.   thinkblue88
592.
Spanish for Japan.
2008-10-10 15:28:44
605.   Gagne55
If McDonald and hold this team down, we got a chance. Myers doesn't have much today.
2008-10-10 15:29:23
606.   Kevin Lewis
The vocab word on my screen saver was "angst"
2008-10-10 15:29:49
607.   Gagne55
McDonald has nice looking stuff.
2008-10-10 15:29:53
608.   Hollywood Joe
James is McNasty
2008-10-10 15:30:05
609.   Bob Timmermann
All the dimensions of Citizens Bank Park comply with Professional Baseball Rules. Houston and San Francisco have parks that don't conform, but got waivers.
2008-10-10 15:30:08
610.   Kevin Lewis
Hey, one of the ads is evangelizing to me
2008-10-10 15:30:20
611.   Zak
Winners don't quit.

I was going to type that before Manny's home run, but it seems to apply even more now. Even if we lose this game, if I am on the Dodgers, I think my team and I can win 4 of the next 5. Some of the comments on this board by 3-4 people in particular are really off-putting. It's like the moment we are down or a decision is made that they don't agree with, the roof caves in and the negativity soars. Hang in there guys and enjoy the ride... the destination is part of the fun, the key is how you get there.

Now, are Dodgers fans winners or quitters?

2008-10-10 15:30:27
612.   Tangled Up in Blue
Wow! McDonald just challenged Werth with that fastball
2008-10-10 15:30:35
613.   Bluebleeder87
I typed that with out checking.
Heard about the 3 run jack by Manny! :o) (pone)
2008-10-10 15:30:38
614.   Kuo-fax
McDonald making the most of his audition for next year!
2008-10-10 15:30:39
615.   scareduck
Excuse me, but when did Mickey D get a 94 MPH heater?
2008-10-10 15:30:57
616.   oshea2002
Was game 4 the Leyritz game?
2008-10-10 15:31:09
617.   jujibee
Albeit a small sample size in the Pros and an excellent minor league track record, BA says McDonald's ceiling is as a #3. His stuff looks a little bit better than that, but if Bills and Kershaw are 1 and 2, maybe they're right.
2008-10-10 15:31:39
618.   scareduck
605 - I was going to mention that. The Dodgers have a chance so long as Philly doesn't get into their bullpen.
2008-10-10 15:32:01
619.   fracule
603 If I contribute any more to this conversation, I may break rule 1,5,6,7,and 10.
2008-10-10 15:32:41
620.   superbas
{verily late} BOOM, OUTTA HERE!

and yes kemp has been looking brutal for awhile now and i'm his biggest supporter. not billz day :(...we need a rally.

2008-10-10 15:32:56
621.   Tangled Up in Blue
What is BABIP for the Phillies now?
2008-10-10 15:34:06
622.   underdog
Jimmy Mac!
2008-10-10 15:34:13
623.   ssjames
I cannot believe that almost everything is falling, this such a completely lucky game for the Phillies today, and yet it is not over, maybe the odds will turn.
2008-10-10 15:35:17
624.   Frip
Buck likes to rib McCarver in girly and unfunny ways.
2008-10-10 15:36:00
625.   Tangled Up in Blue
that is Blake's ball. Cmon Mickey D
2008-10-10 15:36:05
626.   Humma Kavula
Three hits. Unbelievable.
2008-10-10 15:36:11
627.   Hollywood Joe
ugh

We can only hope all this running will continue to pay dividends with Myers on the mound

2008-10-10 15:36:14
628.   KG16
617 - all a matter of perspective. Like Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz in their prime, each would have been a #1 if they played for different teams.
2008-10-10 15:36:19
629.   Branch Rickey
Ok, now it's inconceivable. =)
2008-10-10 15:36:20
630.   Johnson
621 They were at 10 for 12, now 10...excuse me 11 for 14. That's .786. I am shaking my head.
2008-10-10 15:36:35
631.   scareduck
This is unreal. Myers is 3-for-3!

Head to Vegas, buddy.

2008-10-10 15:36:37
632.   Bob Timmermann
If Utley gets another walk, he sets an NL Division Series record for most in a game.

Postseason games where a batter drew four walks:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/shareit/yydK

2008-10-10 15:36:39
633.   thinkblue88
You gotta laugh a little bit at this point.
2008-10-10 15:36:48
634.   Bob Hendley
Meyers is so surprised he hit himself in the head with the bat.
2008-10-10 15:37:02
635.   das411
Myers = classic!
2008-10-10 15:37:11
636.   Saburo
Haaar!
2008-10-10 15:37:23
637.   Jim Hitchcock
Myers is the single best argument I've seen for NL designated hitter...
2008-10-10 15:37:26
638.   oshea2002
Myers is the anti-feel good story.
2008-10-10 15:37:53
639.   Tangled Up in Blue
630 Thanks. Bad luck for the Dodgers
2008-10-10 15:38:20
640.   Icaros
I haven't been able to figure out the strike zone in either of these games.
2008-10-10 15:38:26
641.   thinkblue88
McDizzzzzle!!!
2008-10-10 15:38:28
642.   Alex41592
Good change of pace by McDonald.
2008-10-10 15:38:28
643.   Hollywood Joe
McNasty!

Huge

2008-10-10 15:38:33
644.   LoneStar7
that was just filthy
2008-10-10 15:38:37
645.   JJ42
We've just seen the future.
2008-10-10 15:38:39
646.   Branch Rickey
Game isn't half over yet.
2008-10-10 15:38:46
647.   FirstMohican
McCarvery is hereby disallowed from nicknaming anybody.
2008-10-10 15:38:46
648.   oshea2002
I've got a weird feeling we'll be calling Jimmy Mac the hero of the biggest win of the year later tonight.
2008-10-10 15:38:51
649.   scareduck
You deserve a strikeout today.
2008-10-10 15:39:16
650.   underdog
McDonald's really impressed me.
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2008-10-10 15:39:22
651.   Alice S
Myers has got to be just about the luckiest guy on the face of the Earth right now
2008-10-10 15:39:22
652.   FirstMohican
McCarver... has been inadvertently nicknamed... McCarvery.
2008-10-10 15:39:46
653.   Bob Timmermann
This could be the ugliest LCS game since this monstrosity in the 2003 ALCS:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYA/NYA200310150.shtml
2008-10-10 15:39:46
654.   Tangled Up in Blue
I think this McDonald kid may have a future with the Dodgers. :)
2008-10-10 15:39:58
655.   Bob Hendley
OK, let's have at him again. Sure that all his luck must have been spent by now.
2008-10-10 15:39:59
656.   bhsportsguy
Somehow, someway, Nomar will have a key at bat today, not saying he will come through but I think he will be up with the game on the line.

Mark it.

2008-10-10 15:40:00
657.   Jacob Burch
649 I lol'd.
2008-10-10 15:40:05
658.   Icaros
Maybe Myers' good fortune will keep him from beating his wife tonight. Lucky her.
2008-10-10 15:40:08
659.   DBrim
McDonald - nasty.
2008-10-10 15:40:16
660.   Jimmyv11
i think the umpire's consistency is getting worse as the game goes on
2008-10-10 15:40:34
661.   Kuo-fax
648 I'm on board with that sentiment!
2008-10-10 15:40:37
662.   jujibee
Is the changeup more difficult to throw than other off-speed pitches? It seems like that pitch is about the most effective pitch if you can bring the fastball at 90+. I wonder why guys like Bills, Billingsley, Kershaw aren't mastering this pitch. When I threw, I found the change easier than the curve.
2008-10-10 15:40:37
663.   Kevin Lewis
We have them right where we want them. When we come back to win this game, it will completely deflate the Phillies!
2008-10-10 15:40:49
664.   Kuo-fax
648 I'm on board with that sentiment!
2008-10-10 15:40:51
665.   underdog
640 Me neither. Today's ump has been particularly inconsistent. McDonald had a ball called that he then threw to the same exact spot and got called a strike in that last inning. I mean it's got to mess with the pitcher's heads a bit. And batters, too. I'm sure it's even, and I won't blame all of Chad's struggles on that today, but it really doesn't help if you don't know what to expect from the ump.
2008-10-10 15:40:54
666.   scareduck
650 - Julia Child liked their fries.
2008-10-10 15:40:55
667.   fracule
648 Oh, that would be sweet.
2008-10-10 15:41:37
668.   underdog
658 Maybe he'll go out and have a celebratory brewski with Eric Cyr.
2008-10-10 15:41:55
669.   JRSarno
From cbssportsline glog:

"Manny had his right index finger raised as he rounded first on his home run trot and also had some words for Myers on his way back to the dugout. The TV crew reported that Manny told Myers not to bother coming inside if he wasn't going to throw 95. They also reported that, earlier in the game, Manny told Myers to watch the inside pitches (Myers threw behind Ramirez's back in the first inning.) and a Philly responded that Manny should do something about it if he didn't like that. I think Manny did just that."

2008-10-10 15:42:06
670.   Jimmyv11
next two innings are biggest for us we have to attack myers
2008-10-10 15:42:33
671.   wronghanded
I don't know if it's true but a CBS sportsline glogger said this:

Manny had his right index finger raised as he rounded first on his home run trot and also had some words for Myers on his way back to the dugout. The TV crew reported that Manny told Myers not to bother coming inside if he wasn't going to throw 95. They also reported that, earlier in the game, Manny told Myers to watch the inside pitches (Myers threw behind Ramirez's back in the first inning.) and a Philly responded that Manny should do something about it if he didn't like that. I think Manny did just that.

2008-10-10 15:42:37
672.   Tangled Up in Blue
The Dodgers need Kemp to snap out of it....like now.
2008-10-10 15:43:06
673.   wronghanded
oops too late.
2008-10-10 15:43:14
674.   jujibee
What's a glog?
2008-10-10 15:43:25
675.   bryanf
Is it still only the fifth inning? Wow.
2008-10-10 15:43:59
676.   LoneStar7
while it doesn't make sense with raffy back, I'd still like to see kemp in the leadoff spot
2008-10-10 15:44:40
677.   scareduck
674 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulled_wine#Gl.C3.B6gg
2008-10-10 15:45:14
678.   jujibee
nice AB Matty
2008-10-10 15:45:26
679.   thinkblue88
Alright Kemp, great job.
2008-10-10 15:45:28
680.   Kuo-fax
Always a good sign when Kemp takes a walk! Especially from 0-2
2008-10-10 15:45:31
681.   oshea2002
Good patience Bison. Lets get a bunt, a hit, and 8-6
2008-10-10 15:45:45
682.   Branch Rickey
Love hearing even dorky McCarver discussing possible extra innings in a game that appeared to be a blowout.
2008-10-10 15:46:03
683.   underdog
That was a good at bat from Bison. No chasing there. Draws the walk.
2008-10-10 15:46:14
684.   Kuo-fax
Let's see if McD can pull a Myers!
2008-10-10 15:46:20
685.   LoneStar7
well that was a good at bat the bison, I'll jsut not talk lol
2008-10-10 15:46:42
686.   Jimmyv11
I ride Kemp for good at bats and he shuts me up, who else should i give a hard time now?
2008-10-10 15:46:45
687.   bryanf
BTW, a belated thank you to all here who recommended MLB.COM Gameday Audio synced with DVR on television. I haven't heard McCarver since last year. It feels great.
2008-10-10 15:47:11
688.   oshea2002
I think this is a 50/50 call either way on whether to hit, but I agree with Torre.
2008-10-10 15:47:21
689.   Humma Kavula
First major league at-bat -- in the NLCS!
2008-10-10 15:48:27
690.   Branch Rickey
In a way, staying with McDonald is really a show of confidence. Torre clearly believes we have plenty of time to score 4 runs. Most important to have the right pitchers.
2008-10-10 15:48:55
691.   Tangled Up in Blue
Blake does not look right. He should have hammered that hanging curveball.
2008-10-10 15:49:34
692.   Gen3Blue
I don't think Torre's the guy--the rest of the team has been fine.
2008-10-10 15:50:33
693.   Bob Hendley
Dang. I wanted Kent to get another whack at this guy.
2008-10-10 15:50:41
694.   superbas
to me kemp gets overanxious when there are runners on base, scoring position etc...he tends to have his worst abs in those situations. he needs to "clutch up" whatever that means.
2008-10-10 15:51:09
695.   underdog
692 Huh?

--

And they're running out of pitchers so I don't think they had much choice but to let McDonald bat there. Though it's a tough time for his first ML at bat. It's also not definite that Kershaw isn't pitching in game 4. They're probably holding him back for now unless they absolutely have to use him.

2008-10-10 15:51:15
696.   ssjames
Casey Blake seems like he is due. He goes quiet for long periods of time and then seems to break out of it. I hope a breakout is coming soon.
2008-10-10 15:51:27
697.   Hollywood Joe
Does Myers come out to pitch the 6th?

Not crazy about being down, but if we keep them at 8 I like our chances

2008-10-10 15:51:57
698.   Jimmyv11
Seriously Blake needs to step up, he has struggled, we are really going to need his bat to get going!
2008-10-10 15:52:25
699.   DBrim
697 - Chances are he's done for the night.
2008-10-10 15:53:28
700.   Branch Rickey
697 He's out. They just showed Manuel shaking his hand.
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2008-10-10 15:54:20
701.   Hollywood Joe
699 700

Pity

2008-10-10 15:54:31
702.   JJ42
If Joe Torre can smile and laugh, so can we.
2008-10-10 15:54:57
703.   D4P
JAWFCU
2008-10-10 15:55:25
704.   Bob Timmermann
NLDS record walk!

A walk to remember!

2008-10-10 15:55:26
705.   ucladodger
Just wondering if Koufax is available for tonight. He still looks he could get some people out.
2008-10-10 15:55:28
706.   ToyCannon
I find it amazing that the Phillies had no one warming up. If Blake take it out it would have been 8-7 with no one ready to come in.
2008-10-10 15:55:32
707.   Bob Hendley
Mmmh...curveball pitcher/Howard
2008-10-10 15:56:12
708.   Branch Rickey
That report from Rosenthal was all over the place. I've listened to it twice and despite the fact that he was clearly reading it, it made little sense.
2008-10-10 15:56:26
709.   ucladodger
That was so tough. Great try.
2008-10-10 15:56:35
710.   ToyCannon
Sandy looked good. Retiring at an early age does wonders for your health.
2008-10-10 15:56:39
711.   das411
Folks, that "if we keep them at 8 I like our chances" in 697 kind of says it all about the '08 Dodgers, doesn't it?
2008-10-10 15:57:12
712.   thinkblue88
It was basically all the crap he has written all year rolled into one 30 second segment!
2008-10-10 15:57:32
713.   Frip
698 We're going to need Casey's bat?
2008-10-10 15:57:54
714.   thinkblue88
712 for 708.
2008-10-10 15:59:47
715.   Branch Rickey
I'm lovin' it!
2008-10-10 15:59:52
716.   Alex41592
James McDonald coming up absolutely gigantic in this game.
2008-10-10 15:59:54
717.   bryanf
Looks like James McD is doing great. I wish I could be watching this on TV. Darn work.
2008-10-10 15:59:58
718.   scareduck
Big yellow hammer gets Burrell.
2008-10-10 16:00:07
719.   Bluebleeder87
good inning to score here fellas.
2008-10-10 16:00:10
720.   bhsportsguy
708 What did he say?
2008-10-10 16:00:17
721.   ucladodger
James is pretty darn good. He is so deceptive because his delivery is so slow. The ball just jumps out of his hand, which isnt something you would expect with that slow of a delivery.
2008-10-10 16:00:19
722.   ToyCannon
Big James McDonald was very very impressive. He really has been our Rick Rhoden.
2008-10-10 16:00:42
723.   Hollywood Joe
"I'm lovin' it" McDonalds
2008-10-10 16:00:44
724.   scareduck
715 - Phanatic: <robble robble robble>
2008-10-10 16:00:52
725.   Bob Hendley
711 - Rule three violation.
2008-10-10 16:00:54
726.   JJ42
I like McNasty
2008-10-10 16:01:19
727.   DBrim
McDonald should start game 6.
2008-10-10 16:02:26
728.   Hollywood Joe
When did men become Madison Avenue's idea of women? How many ads are directed to making us feel better about how we look. Jeez....
2008-10-10 16:02:44
729.   Branch Rickey
720 I'm not sure. He started talking about how McDonald had been mentioned in the Sabathia deal talks but ended with how the Dodgers weren't paying anything for Blake and Manny's contracts. It all sounded like one thought but it was a montage of all he knows about the Dodgers I guess.
2008-10-10 16:03:12
730.   trainwreck
I wish Werth played defense like a Brewer.
2008-10-10 16:03:19
731.   underdog
711 - It doesn't really say anything about this year's Dodgers as a rule. They rarely gave up this many runs. And they didn't come back that often when down by a lot. So this game would be an anomaly if what he said came true.
2008-10-10 16:03:31
732.   bhsportsguy
Someone needs to get on base before Manny comes up.
2008-10-10 16:03:34
733.   Woden325
I'm impressed by the video screen on the blimp.
2008-10-10 16:04:12
734.   Hollywood Joe
Speed kills - incredible play by Rollins
2008-10-10 16:04:37
735.   Woden325
Great play by Rollins. And superb running by Furcal.
2008-10-10 16:04:43
736.   scareduck
Nice.
2008-10-10 16:04:52
737.   ToyCannon
Baserunner
2008-10-10 16:05:30
738.   bhsportsguy
Now you have to pitch to Manny, don't ya.
2008-10-10 16:05:33
739.   trainwreck
Just trip, Jayson.
2008-10-10 16:06:46
740.   trainwreck
That was not smart.
2008-10-10 16:06:46
741.   Branch Rickey
Funny. The one place they say you can pitch him is right where the pitch was that he hit out!
2008-10-10 16:06:55
742.   bhsportsguy
Darn it.
2008-10-10 16:07:03
743.   underdog
Darnit. The Dodgers went totally off my script that inning.

Stop improvising!

2008-10-10 16:07:16
744.   Bluebleeder87
717

He looks good man... really nice curve, he threw a fastball (92mph) right by Burrel, HIGH HEAT.

2008-10-10 16:10:16
745.   Bluebleeder87
WOW! the ball dies at night in that ball park or something.
2008-10-10 16:10:29
746.   Branch Rickey
Is anyone else experiencing glitches on DirectTV?
2008-10-10 16:10:33
747.   scareduck
First heart-stopper from McDonald.
2008-10-10 16:10:35
748.   Bob Timmermann
Jayson Werth tied a postseason record for most putouts in an inning by a right fielder.
2008-10-10 16:11:19
749.   D4P
748
Told ya so.
2008-10-10 16:12:22
750.   ToyCannon
And that Mr Billingsley is how you get Greg Dobbs out.
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2008-10-10 16:12:35
751.   Bob Timmermann
Werth was actually the first NL right fielder to do the "three flies up" thing. Adam Piatt had done it in the AL.
2008-10-10 16:13:35
752.   Bluebleeder87
Kershaw warming up in the pen.
2008-10-10 16:14:16
753.   Hollywood Joe
McNasty
2008-10-10 16:14:25
754.   Zak
Attaboy James.
2008-10-10 16:14:32
755.   Alex41592
James McDonald gets my game ball.
2008-10-10 16:14:48
756.   bhsportsguy
752 Pitcher's spot due up 5th, let's hope that is when Nomar get's the go ahead hit.
2008-10-10 16:14:53
757.   underdog
I give a personal standing O for McDonald after he comes out. What a terrific job. Even if they lose, he's my Dodger hero for this game.
2008-10-10 16:15:12
758.   JJ42
Let's get James the win!
2008-10-10 16:15:25
759.   Zak
All I ask for is for Manny to get an at bat in this inning.. preferrably with the bases empty.
2008-10-10 16:15:38
760.   oshea2002
Since they are so intent on themed songs - where's the "Jimmy Mack" music?
2008-10-10 16:15:49
761.   Branch Rickey
Under the heading of hard to believe... a playoff team who beats up Lowe and Billingsley can't hit a pitcher with six major league inning under his belt.
2008-10-10 16:17:11
762.   Eric Stephen
Well, I'm finally live. Ugh. Plenty of time to come back though.
2008-10-10 16:17:28
763.   Frip
746. I don't have Direct TV, but my Time Warner cable is getting a lot of glitches.
2008-10-10 16:19:05
764.   Frip
761 That's why I'm not sure if baseball is intriguing or just silly.
2008-10-10 16:20:26
765.   Eric Stephen
That (2nd) swing was unfortunate. Terrible AB by James there.
2008-10-10 16:20:28
766.   bryanf
I'm afraid of the Phillies bullpen.
2008-10-10 16:21:00
767.   ToyCannon
761
The Phillies beat up Lowe? What game did you watch?
2008-10-10 16:21:39
768.   bhsportsguy
761 But I always wonder if the batter is just not in to it when you have a big league plus you have never seen him and there is what 3-4 innings maybe on tape.
2008-10-10 16:22:13
769.   Physics DR
761

agreed.

2008-10-10 16:22:19
770.   Tangled Up in Blue
Kemp just missed that pitch
2008-10-10 16:23:12
771.   Kevin Lewis
Come on Nomar!
2008-10-10 16:23:12
772.   Eric Stephen
That was very, very close to being a strike. Way to take advantage, Bison!
2008-10-10 16:23:14
773.   trainwreck
Bison showing some patience last couple of times. I like.
2008-10-10 16:23:27
774.   oshea2002
Walk and a bomb. Walk and a bomb.
2008-10-10 16:23:42
775.   Tangled Up in Blue
another good at bat by Kemp. Although that 2-2 pitch was probably a strike.
2008-10-10 16:24:08
776.   Branch Rickey
767. Yesterdays where he gave up 6 hits including 2 home runs in 5.1 innings.
2008-10-10 16:24:09
777.   bryanf
See 656 .
2008-10-10 16:24:13
778.   fanerman
Good AB.
2008-10-10 16:24:25
779.   Physics DR
767

i mean agreed on 767

2008-10-10 16:24:38
780.   Bob Hendley
Ok Nomar, remind us why we love ya.
2008-10-10 16:24:55
781.   Bob Timmermann
Now it is time to see what will happen with the bhsportsguy Prophecy!

I have tried to read the entrails of a goat to see what the omens are.

But the other goats got mad at me for killing one of their own.

2008-10-10 16:25:31
782.   bearlurker
775 I thought it was high. Great ab for Kemp, forcing the pitching change.
2008-10-10 16:26:28
783.   Jon Weisman
The Bomb Squad has just showed up. And I'm not speaking figuratively. They're outside my window at work.
2008-10-10 16:26:34
784.   Bob Hendley
781 - Well, at least you killed it before trying.
2008-10-10 16:26:51
785.   Tangled Up in Blue
Nice!!
2008-10-10 16:26:59
786.   superbas
oohh glimmer of hope
2008-10-10 16:27:05
787.   oshea2002
We gotta get one of these here. Come on Casey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2008-10-10 16:27:05
788.   thinkblue88
Alright Nomar. Getting things started!
2008-10-10 16:27:18
789.   Eric Stephen
Nomar Mr. Nice Guy! Tying run to the plate, in the form of The Beard!
2008-10-10 16:27:23
790.   trainwreck
Time for some beard powers.
2008-10-10 16:27:31
791.   lukemccain
Casey at the bat. Time to revenge Mudville.
2008-10-10 16:27:32
792.   bryanf
Oh man. Casey at the bat.
2008-10-10 16:27:38
793.   StolenMonkey86
first pitch, in play, no out
2008-10-10 16:27:47
794.   bryanf
791 Jinx!
2008-10-10 16:27:54
795.   Bluebleeder87
757

I'm walking on my hands in his solute

2008-10-10 16:28:02
796.   trainwreck
You gotta be flippin kidding me!!!!!
2008-10-10 16:28:02
797.   Eric Stephen
783
That's an omen if I ever saw one.

Wow, Blake just missed that.

2008-10-10 16:28:15
798.   Tangled Up in Blue
CRAP!
2008-10-10 16:28:16
799.   Kevin Lewis
oh man, that radio call killed me
2008-10-10 16:28:18
800.   Tangled Up in Blue
CRAP!
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2008-10-10 16:28:19
801.   ToyCannon
783
If we don't hear from you again, thanks for all you've done here.
2008-10-10 16:28:20
802.   Hollywood Joe
heartbreaker

just sick

2008-10-10 16:28:24
803.   Bob Hendley
Ahhhhhhhhh...dang
2008-10-10 16:28:24
804.   oshea2002
how....lucky.....can..........this.....team.......get......
2008-10-10 16:28:26
805.   Branch Rickey
wow oh wow oh wow.
2008-10-10 16:28:27
806.   LoneStar7
heartbreaker
2008-10-10 16:28:35
807.   superbas
dog-gone-it we're hitting the balls too straight, either pull it more or a little late and it's out...arrgghh
2008-10-10 16:28:37
808.   JRSarno
God, I want to spit.
2008-10-10 16:28:39
809.   Alex41592
That's how close we came.
2008-10-10 16:28:46
810.   Bluebleeder87
timed it perfectly, that's all.
2008-10-10 16:28:48
811.   fanerman
How close was that?
2008-10-10 16:28:48
812.   thinkblue88
nnnooooooo!
2008-10-10 16:28:55
813.   trainwreck
I want "Take Me Out to the Ballgame"!
2008-10-10 16:29:07
814.   ToyCannon
Casey has been good at the useless fly ball lately.
2008-10-10 16:29:09
815.   Eric Stephen
Feel free to keep the coverage going for Take Me Out To The Ballgame, too.
2008-10-10 16:29:48
816.   Kevin Lewis
783

Good luck!

2008-10-10 16:30:01
817.   Bluebleeder87
678 !
2008-10-10 16:30:03
818.   Hollywood Joe
It's one, two, three strikes yer out at the old ballgame.

Appologies, it's not that I am not patriotic, but baseball is my religion and I like our traditions

2008-10-10 16:30:15
819.   Alex41592
If that ball is two feet higher it's 8-7 and Blake is at third.
2008-10-10 16:30:17
820.   Eric Stephen
813
Great minds think alike!

801
Hilarious.

The Dodgers hardest hit balls have been to CF, and it has cost them dearly.

2008-10-10 16:30:28
821.   underdog
Hit that one to the wrong part of the park. Drat.

An unnecessary flourish of a jump there by Victorino, too.

2008-10-10 16:30:41
822.   superbas
wwaahh work? i thought jon is living comfortably off the ad space here :)
2008-10-10 16:30:43
823.   JRSarno
Casey Blake took a good hack, man. I wanna be mad at the guy, but that was a matter of mere inches.
2008-10-10 16:30:59
824.   Jacob Burch
Six outs, two runs:
Kent
Furcal
Martin
Manny
Ethier
Loney at least.

Keep us in there bullpen and these guys can do magic.

2008-10-10 16:31:03
825.   scareduck
783 - Until a few weeks ago, I was walking distance to the Federal Building in Westwood. A friend who was at the building directly east of that building would routinely get called down for bomb threats and the like.
2008-10-10 16:31:07
826.   Linkmeister
Foo. The kid hit a triple earlier so our homer sportscasters were gonna go crazy, but after that catch? They may fall off the news set tonight.

Can we lose "God Bless America" interruptions and go back to "Take Me Out to the Ball Game," please?

2008-10-10 16:31:12
827.   Johnson
811 He hit it to the high wall in left center, so it wouldn't have gone out, but it was maybe 6 inches from a 2-run double.
2008-10-10 16:31:46
828.   ToyCannon
How many paper millionaires have been taken off the books in the last 30 days? Are they singing during the stretch?
2008-10-10 16:31:47
829.   trainwreck
We keep being off by inches when it comes to these long flies and it is killing us.
2008-10-10 16:32:01
830.   JRSarno
827 - Ummm, that would have been totally acceptable under the circumstances.
2008-10-10 16:32:14
831.   underdog
Yeah, I'm glad I wasn't listening to Charlie Steiner there. As it was, I saw Victorino looking like he had it most of the way so I got deflated pretty quickly. Sigh. Just one of those nights, guys (and gals).
2008-10-10 16:32:50
832.   Eric Stephen
824
They will all bat in the 8th!
2008-10-10 16:33:06
833.   Alex41592
Looks like Lowe will pitch Game 4.
2008-10-10 16:33:08
834.   Ricardo
This is looking like that series against the Mets in 2006.
2008-10-10 16:33:18
835.   bhsportsguy
831 It was Vin and with his tone, you could tell that it was close to something good.
2008-10-10 16:33:22
836.   Kevin Lewis
The radio call was painful
2008-10-10 16:33:32
837.   Jacob Burch
And here comes Clayton for the 2 IP W!
2008-10-10 16:33:51
838.   Tangled Up in Blue
I really think the Dodgers should have saved Kershaw for Game 4. Lets hope he gets thru this inning quickly with only a limited amount of pitches.
2008-10-10 16:34:03
839.   Bluebleeder87
783 801

Don't do it Jon!

2008-10-10 16:34:12
840.   Fish
WHY?????
2008-10-10 16:34:23
841.   Sam PHL
Did they do God Bless America at the Dodgers' playoff game?

They hadn't done it all season at CBP until the playoffs. Do we get more patriotic in the postseason?

2008-10-10 16:34:25
842.   Bob Hendley
Nice hook.
2008-10-10 16:34:44
843.   Bluebleeder87
Torre just wants to show off all the bullets we have.
2008-10-10 16:35:11
844.   bearlurker
Nice hustle there Rollins.
2008-10-10 16:35:19
845.   underdog
Compare Furcal's hustle on the K earlier and Rollins right there.
2008-10-10 16:35:23
846.   Bob Timmermann
841
They did not.

If they do this weekend, I will take that opportunity to go to the men's room.

2008-10-10 16:35:56
847.   scareduck
826 - seconded, thirded, fourthed, fifthed, etc.
2008-10-10 16:35:58
848.   Hollywood Joe
McKershaw
2008-10-10 16:36:12
849.   underdog
841 It feels more like an East Coast thing for whatever reason. Or more of a Shelbyville idea...
2008-10-10 16:36:16
850.   Tangled Up in Blue
Ok, get Kershaw out of there.
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2008-10-10 16:36:17
851.   ToyCannon
Piece of Cake for 2/5 of the 2009 rotation.
2008-10-10 16:36:22
852.   bryanf
Wow, nice quick inning for Clayton.
2008-10-10 16:36:33
853.   Eric Stephen
841
TMOTTB was played twice on Saturday. I don't remember GBA.

I'm in the mood for acronyms right now.

2008-10-10 16:37:15
854.   Ricardo
Please Torre, start Kershaw at game 4.
2008-10-10 16:37:24
855.   StolenMonkey86
9 pitches for Kershaw.
2008-10-10 16:37:37
856.   Bluebleeder87
our rooks are mow'en 'em down.
2008-10-10 16:37:45
857.   Alex41592
846 - There will be plenty of time for that during the three minute breaks Fox takes in between each half inning.
2008-10-10 16:38:12
858.   Sam PHL
I don't want to get into it too much, but there's definitely a made-for-tv feel during the Phillies playoff games - God Bless America, Rally Towels, telling the crowd to stand up and start cheering when the national broadcasters are switching to the game, etc.
2008-10-10 16:38:59
859.   Kuo-fax
If Kuroda comes out dominant tomorrow, I can see Torre go with Kershaw in Game 4. That way Kuroda would be set for potential game 7.
2008-10-10 16:39:21
860.   ucladodger
One big difference this series is just placement of fly balls. The Dodgers have hit 4 or 5 balls to center that had some big time distance. The Phillies 2 homers yesterday were shorter than each of our shots, but hit in the right spot.
2008-10-10 16:39:40
861.   Bob Hendley
Don't think you can give up on this game, so I like Clayton here.
2008-10-10 16:39:45
862.   ToyCannon
Jeff Kent doing a good job of showing why he's been on the bench.
2008-10-10 16:39:52
863.   bearlurker
854 I'd prefer Kershaw in Game 5, with Lowe in Game 4.
2008-10-10 16:40:01
864.   Hollywood Joe
1 out nightmare
2008-10-10 16:40:15
865.   Tangled Up in Blue
Time for Furcal to get on base
2008-10-10 16:40:30
866.   Kevin Lewis
So, Myers is the reason we are losing...because of his offense?
2008-10-10 16:40:45
867.   Frip
I wonder how much Jeff Kent would complain about Jeff Kent if he wasn't Jeff Kent.
2008-10-10 16:41:07
868.   Hollywood Joe
um

2 out nightmare

2008-10-10 16:41:11
869.   Tangled Up in Blue
Doesn't Hamels have the best change up on the Phillies staff?
2008-10-10 16:41:20
870.   Eric Stephen
863
Fair weather, huh? One bad start, and it's time to kick Bills to the curb?
2008-10-10 16:41:35
871.   Branch Rickey
My back always hurts just watching Furcal swing.
2008-10-10 16:41:42
872.   ToyCannon
Philly middle relief setting us down quite easily.
2008-10-10 16:42:15
873.   Tangled Up in Blue
870 yeah, Bills should start Game 5
2008-10-10 16:43:07
874.   bearlurker
870 Not at all. Kuroda, Lowe, Kershaw, Bills, Lowe
2008-10-10 16:43:18
875.   Eric Stephen
Darn.
2008-10-10 16:43:45
876.   scareduck
Swung on in mist.
2008-10-10 16:43:48
877.   underdog
Dodgers seem to have lost some patience at the plate, especially that inning. Though the swing and miss K on Furcal was a strike even if he took it.
2008-10-10 16:43:49
878.   Nestor
Kent is now 0-4 in the series Furcal is 1-9 and Blake is 1-7 with a walk. Come on old guys!
2008-10-10 16:43:59
879.   JRSarno
Awesome work that inning, guys.
2008-10-10 16:44:07
880.   bearlurker
I'd rather have Kershaw at home in Game 5 than Kuroda at Philly in Game 7.
2008-10-10 16:44:16
881.   Eric Stephen
Well, for his first blown save of 2008, Lidge sure picked a doozy!
2008-10-10 16:44:29
882.   ToyCannon
874
Kuroda has been our best pitcher against the Phillies, you want to limit him to one start?
2008-10-10 16:44:42
883.   bryanf
881 :)
2008-10-10 16:44:51
884.   DBrim
At least they'll pitch to Manny.
2008-10-10 16:45:07
885.   ucladodger
Madson has really good stuff. 95-96 on the 4 seam. 92 on the 2 seam with a really good changeup. Not fun too see him dominate like that, though.
2008-10-10 16:45:24
886.   ToyCannon
878
Free agents feeling the pressure. Their value is dropping faster then the DJ.
2008-10-10 16:46:27
887.   underdog
Also, I will pay someone to set the Phillie Phanatic aflame at this point.
2008-10-10 16:46:39
888.   Zak
880 At this point, I would love to have Kuroda pitching Game 7.
2008-10-10 16:47:54
889.   fanerman
881 Exactly!
2008-10-10 16:48:14
890.   Kevin Lewis
881

Here here!

2008-10-10 16:48:41
891.   bryanf
Man Kershaw is cruising.
2008-10-10 16:48:41
892.   bearlurker
882 I do in this series. If we had 1,2,6 and 7 at home I'd be up for Kuroda in 2 and 6. Notwithstanding Bills' bad start today, Bills and Lowe are our best pitchers to start in Philly, imo.
2008-10-10 16:48:55
893.   Branch Rickey
887. Phillie Phlaming Phanatic?
2008-10-10 16:49:03
894.   underdog
880 I wouldn't mind just having a game 7, whoever's pitching!
2008-10-10 16:50:16
895.   Branch Rickey
Is that you Cory Wade?
2008-10-10 16:50:35
896.   Eric Stephen
As far as I can tell, the Dodgers have never come back from a deficit of more than 2 runs in the 9th inning or later of any postseason game.

So today will be historic.

2008-10-10 16:50:44
897.   Tangled Up in Blue
for once I am fine with Torre overusing the bullpen. Get Kershaw out of there
2008-10-10 16:50:53
898.   bhsportsguy
Bob, will you get up at the crack of dawn on New Year's Day for this?

http://tinyurl.com/FrauBl-cher

2008-10-10 16:51:23
899.   trainwreck
887
I was thinking of a grenade jammed into that kazoo mouth of his.
2008-10-10 16:51:27
900.   Ricardo
873. Bills in game 5, Lowe in 6. I´d prefer not to start Bills in Phillie, Lowe and Kuroda have more experience.
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2008-10-10 16:51:28
901.   Icaros
Torre, feeling lonely, calls the Cory Hotline.
2008-10-10 16:51:33
902.   Bob Timmermann
898
I posted that news way back up toward the top of the thread.
2008-10-10 16:51:35
903.   Bob Hendley
Cory Wade, is that you?
2008-10-10 16:52:23
904.   fanerman
Matt Kemp is gonna be a hero.
2008-10-10 16:53:35
905.   Tangled Up in Blue
904 I like where your head is at. ; )
2008-10-10 16:53:37
906.   Ricardo
904. And Brad Lidge will remind what happened in 2005.
2008-10-10 16:54:51
907.   Eric Stephen
906
Well, not exactly 2005, since after Lidge gave up the HR to Pujols they still went to the WS. We'll take the first part, though. :)
2008-10-10 16:55:03
908.   bryanf
Well, these are the guys you want up.
2008-10-10 16:55:10
909.   Mattpat11
Does Werth think that looks good?
2008-10-10 16:56:01
910.   bearlurker
900 That's too much rest for Lowe.
2008-10-10 16:56:11
911.   LoneStar7
909 lets hope he lost a bet
2008-10-10 16:57:01
912.   Johnson
If we manage to tie it up or take the lead, at least we would face the bottom of the Philly order in the ninth.
2008-10-10 16:57:09
913.   bhsportsguy
3 guys who never threw a MLB pitch until this year shut down the Phillies for 5.2 innings.
2008-10-10 16:57:34
914.   Ricardo
910. I agree, but he´s our best bet if we take the series back to Philadelphia.
2008-10-10 16:58:43
915.   Bluebleeder87
OH YES!
2008-10-10 16:58:46
916.   El Lay Dave
I like the idea of Manny vs. Lidge, unfortunately, he's leading off.
2008-10-10 16:58:48
917.   Jon Weisman
913 - Down with the old fogies coasting on reputation like Chad! :)
2008-10-10 16:59:01
918.   Hollywood Joe
good eye Manny - love baserunners
2008-10-10 16:59:09
919.   bearlurker
Nice work Manny!
2008-10-10 16:59:11
920.   Eric Stephen
There's one baserunner! Giddy up.
2008-10-10 16:59:37
921.   Bob Hendley
Well, I guess they didn't have to pitch to Manny. Let's go Dre!
2008-10-10 16:59:53
922.   Bluebleeder87
Lidge's slider doesn't look that nasty yet.
2008-10-10 17:00:08
923.   El Lay Dave
So I see the only good news is McDonald's curveball is a Golden Arch and Manny hit a blast.
2008-10-10 17:00:37
924.   oshea2002
ugghh
2008-10-10 17:00:43
925.   Alex41592
Wow, great pitch.
2008-10-10 17:00:53
926.   Eric Stephen
It would be so cool if Molly and a few others are the only ones cheering in a minute or two.
2008-10-10 17:01:00
927.   Frip
"Devastating" is right. How do you hit that ball?
2008-10-10 17:01:18
928.   Branch Rickey
923. And it's a 7 game series.
2008-10-10 17:01:28
929.   Eric Stephen
Step into that one, James!
2008-10-10 17:01:29
930.   bearlurker
Lean into that Rudy.
2008-10-10 17:01:57
931.   Alex41592
I know 56,000 will be cheering Wednesday night at the Ravine.
2008-10-10 17:02:05
932.   Bluebleeder87
i bench you anything that he is gonna walk him.
2008-10-10 17:02:45
933.   Tangled Up in Blue
Nice 3-1 pitch by Lidge.
2008-10-10 17:03:24
934.   bearlurker
Great ab James!
2008-10-10 17:03:29
935.   Tangled Up in Blue
C'mon Kemp!!
2008-10-10 17:03:31
936.   Bluebleeder87
oh man.
2008-10-10 17:03:36
937.   oshea2002
who bats after kemp? pierre?
2008-10-10 17:03:37
938.   bhsportsguy
Nice plate appearance by Loney.
2008-10-10 17:03:37
939.   LoneStar7
that was major effin league!
2008-10-10 17:03:38
940.   Eric Stephen
932
I'll bring your bench Sunday!

It's 904 time!

2008-10-10 17:03:38
941.   Alex41592
We've got a chance.
2008-10-10 17:03:40
942.   Hollywood Joe
great at bat - love the Loon
2008-10-10 17:03:45
943.   JRSarno
oh matty oh matty - carve yourself an identity in dodger lore. PLEASE
2008-10-10 17:03:47
944.   Bob Hendley
Bison time.
2008-10-10 17:03:58
945.   bryanf
See 904
2008-10-10 17:04:30
946.   Who Is Karim Garcia
I'm still of the mindset that this series doesn't start until someone loses at home.

With that said, I hope it's the Phillies.

2008-10-10 17:04:31
947.   Humma Kavula
Matt Kemp with the opportunity of a lifetime.
2008-10-10 17:04:33
948.   Sam DC
bison . . . bison . . . bison . . .
2008-10-10 17:04:36
949.   underdog
Buck's definition of "peck away" is different than mine, I guess.
2008-10-10 17:04:43
950.   Alex41592
Nomar on deck.
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2008-10-10 17:05:14
951.   trainwreck
Well this is not looking too promising for Kemp.
2008-10-10 17:05:17
952.   Humma Kavula
No matter what happens here, Matt Kemp is my favorite player.
2008-10-10 17:05:23
953.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Boy, that slider is ugly.
2008-10-10 17:05:43
954.   oshea2002
My bad - I forgot about the double switch
2008-10-10 17:05:53
955.   Who Is Karim Garcia
Psycho Crusher fully charged?
2008-10-10 17:06:16
956.   Bluebleeder87
Lidge is nasty man...
2008-10-10 17:06:18
957.   Tangled Up in Blue
I am wearing my Matt Kemp jersey and am listening to Come Pick Me up by Ryan Adams. He will come thru!
2008-10-10 17:06:20
958.   fanerman
955 Level 3 baby.
2008-10-10 17:06:28
959.   Jim Hitchcock
952 Perfect comment!
2008-10-10 17:06:40
960.   JRSarno
the philosophy must be here: throw kemp garbage, because he doesn't have the patience to sit on it.
2008-10-10 17:07:00
961.   Humma Kavula
That's too bad.

But the Bison is still my favorite player.

2008-10-10 17:07:17
962.   Eric Stephen
Wow, that looked hittable. Oh well. Nomar time.
2008-10-10 17:07:21
963.   das411
Did not mean 711 to bait anybody, what it meant was that if the game was close, an ending like this would be that much more likely!
2008-10-10 17:07:21
964.   JRSarno
ok, nomar. swing for the downs. or we go 0-2.
2008-10-10 17:07:21
965.   underdog
That pitch looked pretty unhittable. Alas.
2008-10-10 17:07:22
966.   trainwreck
Nomar hit it out so the game does not come down to Juan Pierre.
2008-10-10 17:07:29
967.   Hollywood Joe
that is a tough slider but dang it Matt
2008-10-10 17:07:31
968.   Sam DC
nomar . . . nomar . . . nomar . . .
2008-10-10 17:07:35
969.   bryanf
See 656
2008-10-10 17:07:36
970.   Bluebleeder87
BH was right man...
2008-10-10 17:07:37
971.   Bob Timmermann
Pierre on deck I assume if Nomar reaches?
2008-10-10 17:07:38
972.   Who Is Karim Garcia
958

Blocked.

2008-10-10 17:07:50
973.   Bluebleeder87
crucial at bat for Nomar here.
2008-10-10 17:07:53
974.   Alex41592
Nomar Garciaparra hit a late inning grand slam off Brad Lidge in Houston in 2006. The first big hit of his Los Angeles Dodgers career.
2008-10-10 17:08:02
975.   ToyCannon
That was shocking
2008-10-10 17:08:15
976.   oshea2002
Kemp is scuffling.
2008-10-10 17:08:17
977.   trainwreck
Wow. Take Loney approach and don't swing at sliders.
2008-10-10 17:08:29
978.   fanerman
955 958 But Matt Kemp only charged it for 1 second instead of 2. Next time Bison, it's back for 2 seconds, forward, back, forward + all 3 punches. Come on!!
2008-10-10 17:08:32
979.   Andrew Shimmin
That stunk.
2008-10-10 17:08:36
980.   trainwreck
Well that was a horrific at bat.
2008-10-10 17:08:42
981.   Tangled Up in Blue
That was a HORRIBLE at bat by Nomar
2008-10-10 17:08:44
982.   Bob Hendley
Well, we did manage to get some ABs with the game on the line.
2008-10-10 17:08:49
983.   Bluebleeder87
Let's get 'em at home boys...
2008-10-10 17:08:49
984.   DBrim
Horrible horrible AB.
2008-10-10 17:08:52
985.   JRSarno
Well, we did an awesome job of making Lidge appear to be a good pitcher there.
2008-10-10 17:08:53
986.   Icaros
Nomar makes Kemp look good.
2008-10-10 17:08:58
987.   Branch Rickey
Those last two at bats were really really bad. I know Lidge is really good but, jeez.
2008-10-10 17:08:58
988.   Eric Stephen
I mentally changed an F to a PH just now.
2008-10-10 17:08:58
989.   Humma Kavula
See you guys on Sunday. I'll be in the loge, Section 160, Row L.
2008-10-10 17:09:01
990.   Sam DC
... - - - ... - - - ...
2008-10-10 17:09:16
991.   oshea2002
If it was Blanton and not Moyer in game 3, I wouldn't have been shocked if Joe went to Pierre.
2008-10-10 17:09:24
992.   scareduck
Lame.
2008-10-10 17:09:27
993.   mwhite06
Nomar Garciaparra... little leaguer
2008-10-10 17:09:28
994.   Hollywood Joe
terrible No-mah no mas

swung at the same junk 3 x in a row

ugly

2008-10-10 17:09:29
995.   Bluebleeder87
981

both Kemp & Nomar looked bad but they looked bad against a premier pitcher.

2008-10-10 17:09:30
996.   KG16
ok, hold serve, go back next weekend and finish it in Philly. Still not the end of the world.
2008-10-10 17:09:38
997.   mwhite06
Nomar Garciaparra... little leaguer
2008-10-10 17:09:40
998.   underdog
Crap.

Oh, and do we NEED the freakin' fireworks after every Phillies' win? Well, I for one am glad to get at least two games away from that stupid ballpark.

2008-10-10 17:09:42
999.   fanerman
Shucks.
2008-10-10 17:09:42
1000.   Alex41592
Down 0-2 and heading home. It's ok just breathe.
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2008-10-10 17:09:52
1001.   ucladodger
Wonderful ABs by Kemp and Nomar. Trying to be a hero instead of giving a solid ab. Kemp has looked so lost at the plate, and that pitch he K'd on needs to be crushed. you know a slider is coming and he puts one over the heart. As for Nomar, it woulod help if you make him throw at least 1 strike.
2008-10-10 17:09:58
1002.   Mattpat11
I like watching Nomar fail, but I would rather the Dodgers win.
2008-10-10 17:10:04
1003.   Frip
One of the worst amateur at bats by a veteran I've seen in a long time.
2008-10-10 17:10:32
1004.   Eric Stephen
1985 NLCS: Dodgers won first two at home, lost series (in 6)
1981 WS: Dodgers lost first two on road, won series (in 6)
1981 NLDS: Dodgers lost first two on road, won series (in 5)*
1978 WS: Dodgers won first two at home, lost series (in 6)
1965 WS: Dodgers lost first two on road, won series (in 7)
1956 WS: Dodgers won first two at home, lost series (in 7)
1955 WS: Dodgers lost first two on road, won series (in 7)

*5-game series

It's the playoffs. Comebacks happen.

2008-10-10 17:10:41
1005.   fanerman
Nomar didn't know what he was doing. He was just button mashing.
2008-10-10 17:10:50
1006.   Bluebleeder87
I admit, I believe in dreams... & that is why I will be there in person sunday at Dodger Stadium.

supporting my HOME TOWN DODGERS!

2008-10-10 17:10:57
1007.   trainwreck
Time to crush them in LA.
2008-10-10 17:11:14
1008.   Jacob Burch
I'm getting a new Bike, I'm getting a new Bike, In-N-Out still exists, I still have my health...

I'll be better in an hour.

2008-10-10 17:11:16
1009.   bferb
Lidge is not that good (although he has had a great year). Our guys are swinging at pitches in the dirt, that aren't even starting in the strike zone.

Kemp's postseason has been atrocious

2008-10-10 17:11:24
1010.   Bluebleeder87
1005

He was busting out a hale mary.

2008-10-10 17:11:38
1011.   Nestor
We had our chances to tie in the 7th and the 9th.... that all you can ask for. feeling very melancholy right now. time to forget and get ready for Sunday.
2008-10-10 17:11:49
1012.   ToyCannon
Carlos Santana would have a 3-0 count.
2008-10-10 17:12:17
1013.   Eric Stephen
All this win did for Philadelphia was guarantee another home game for them. That's all. :)
2008-10-10 17:12:24
1014.   bearlurker
At least Kemp made Lidge throw a couple of strikes, laid off one in the dirt (unlike Nomar) and fought one off. Nomar swung at 3 balls.
2008-10-10 17:12:29
1015.   Alex41592
Seven game series.

Phillies did what they had to do. Now, we have to do the same.

2008-10-10 17:12:34
1016.   Jim Hitchcock
1004 Yep, 4 out of 6 is doable. We swept 'em in L.A. Remember the Alamo!
2008-10-10 17:12:58
1017.   Hollywood Joe
I am not doom and gloom - I still believe. Long way to go in this series and largely like they way we are playing

but I am going to have a hard time forgetting about that last at bat

take a strike - cant he just do take a strike? Lidge walked two already, take a strike

terrible

2008-10-10 17:13:28
1018.   Humma Kavula
We'll get 'em Sunday.
2008-10-10 17:13:38
1019.   bearlurker
I thought Kemp looked OK tonight after his first AB. 2bbs, solid swings, Lidge made some great pitches.
2008-10-10 17:13:43
1020.   JRSarno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir8Y4iFrWk8
2008-10-10 17:13:44
1021.   thinkblue88
At least Kemp fouled some pitches in that at bat and walk TWO time tonight. Matt Kemp walked TWICE tonight. Not sure if you all saw it, but Kemp walked TWICE tonight. The Bison walked TWICE tonight.

Nomar, dude, come on....

2008-10-10 17:13:51
1022.   das411
Okay DTers, good set of two games here, so now you can go ahead and win at least two in LA so I can use my tix to Game Six...and if you start McD and Minotaur, winning two looks like quite a possibility...if Myers doesn't get to face Billz again, that is!
2008-10-10 17:13:59
1023.   Frip
I'm surprised Fox didn't innapropriatly play "I Love L.A." again.
2008-10-10 17:14:33
1024.   Bluebleeder87
1009

his fastball ball isn't all that, but I can tell you that when somebody has a nasty slider like Lidge does, it LOOKS like a fastball off the arm but it breaks all of a sudden, IMO he is good.

I will say this though, HE ONLY HAS 2 PITCHES. I don't think he threw a strike on that slider AT ALL.

2008-10-10 17:14:45
1025.   DBrim
Sunday's lineup needs to be:

Furcal / Ethier / Manny / Loney / Martin / DeWitt / Kemp / Blake / Kuroda. We need to switch this up.

2008-10-10 17:14:46
1026.   ucladodger
1009

Lidge is good.

Honestly, i'm worried about Kemp. His performance with runners on base this post season has been atrocious. The 2 abs he ahd for walks were great, and then he puts himself into a hole against Lidge by taking a first pitch spinner at the belt and swinging at a pitch that didnt start near the zone. He's had a ton of opportunities to do some damage on some really hittable pitches, but he hasnt made solid contact yet. He's the key to the games in L.A from the offensive side.

2008-10-10 17:14:50
1027.   Branch Rickey
We just need to go 4-1 for the rest of the season. Very manageable.
2008-10-10 17:14:59
1028.   bhsportsguy
I hope everyone realizes that all Chad had to do to avoid this was get a .217 hitter out in the second inning or wish Dobbs hit the ball a little harder for a harmless fly ball.
2008-10-10 17:15:09
1029.   Bluebleeder87
1015

VERY TRUE.

2008-10-10 17:15:25
1030.   mwhite06
Matt Kemp's at bat was not great, but it was MUCH better than Nomar's. At least Kemp took a strike.
2008-10-10 17:15:33
1031.   underdog
963 Oh, for me personally, I didn't think you were baiting at all, Das, maybe I just misunderstood but I didn't agree that it summed up the Dodgers all that much.

Anyway... onwards and upwards.

On to LA!

2008-10-10 17:15:36
1032.   Zak
Are we winners or are we quitters?

Remember we do not need a 20 game winning streak here. We can do this. The match ups favor us too. I'd take Bills vs Hamels in DS with the series tied 2-2 before today.

Another way to look at it.. a lot of things have to go right for the Dodgers to come back into this. But, not as many things as those that went the Phillies' way in games one and two. We will be heard!

2008-10-10 17:16:31
1033.   underdog
I wish I could drown my sorrows in beer. Instead I have to drown it in laundry and work. :-( Oh well.
2008-10-10 17:16:45
1034.   regfairfield
Any reliever that can strike out 157 in a season must have some talent.
2008-10-10 17:16:57
1035.   Lexinthedena
Repugnant at bat by Nomar, but the Dodgers played really well considering the stinker laid by Billz. McDonald is Iceberg Slim (not in the pimp sense, in the cool as ice sense), and the offense showed a lot by hitting balls hard in clutch situations. Kemp will bust out in this series.

I know that the Phils and their phans are not comfortable.

2008-10-10 17:17:10
1036.   underdog
1016 Remember the basement of the Alamo, too!
2008-10-10 17:17:18
1037.   Jacob Burch
The off day tomorrow is going to be awful. Getting pumped for the game down 0-2 will be difficult but not impossible--hopefully seeing a few fellow DTers will lift my spirits.

It's sandwich time

2008-10-10 17:17:50
1038.   bhsportsguy
1026 Ryan Howard who led the league in HRs and RBI has done nothing and his team is 2-0. I don't think you can put this on Matt Kemp and say he is the key to this series.

The Dodgers are not going to win unless their starting pitching gets to at least the 7th inning. Chad was bad today, Lewe had a bad inning.

2008-10-10 17:18:10
1039.   ucladodger
1028

The Ruiz AB was the game changer. A pitcher as good as Billingsley shouldn't fall someone like Ruiz, but stuff happens. what you cannot do is throw the poitch he threw 2-1. My gosh was that on a tee and just begging to be hit. Another huge key that inning was Rollins' 4 hopper for a hit. He just hit it in the exact right place for a base hit. Some really bad luck tonight for the Dodgers.

2008-10-10 17:18:28
1040.   underdog
1027 Can't we go 4-2? ;-)
2008-10-10 17:19:01
1041.   bearlurker
Kemp looked better than Furcal tonight. I wouldn't mind Kemp leading off with Furcal 8th...or would that look like the panic button?
2008-10-10 17:19:10
1042.   Jacob Burch
Also, as stated, trying to figure out a way to not visit ESPN.com, watch ESPN, or read any sports related media outside of DT will be interesting. This is a plus of spending a portion of tomorrow in the OC.
2008-10-10 17:19:28
1043.   Bluebleeder87
1037

It actually works out great for me.

2008-10-10 17:19:28
1044.   bleedsblue
Our last two losses have each boiled down to one person problems: Furcal last night and Billingsly today. That's baseball. The rookie batting in the 9th didn't help but you cant say that Billingsly didn't get run support. He imploded. The game was lost in the third inning. Sunday will be our comeback game.
2008-10-10 17:19:43
1045.   JRSarno
We had the top of 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th to do something... ANYTHING. That's just unacceptable. Manny cannot do everything for this team.
2008-10-10 17:19:57
1046.   Humma Kavula
I was rooting as hard as anyone for Kemp to come through there, but when the team gives up eight runs, the list of blamees does not start with the offense.

Not that I think anyone needs to be blamed. That stuff is gonna happen. It isn't fun, and it really isn't fun when it happens in the playoffs, but it happens. It wasn't Chad's night.

2008-10-10 17:20:07
1047.   das411
So do we go for the record and have some Dodger Rays thoughts here?
2008-10-10 17:20:50
1048.   Alex41592
Manny Ramirez vs. Jamie Moyer:

18 for 53 10 home runs 6 walks and 12 K's

.340/.417/.962/1.379

Matt Kemp also does very well against slow throwing left handers. I think he breaks out in Game 3.

The boys will be at home which is a very big deal in this series.

2008-10-10 17:21:03
1049.   ucladodger
1038

From an offensive standpoint, its huge. Obviously the pitching has to be there, but our lineyup has basically quit after the 5th guy in the order. I'm not saying we're down 0-2 because of him, but he needs to show up. The Phils can win without Ryan Howard on the beam because they have Rollins, Utley, Burrell, Worth, Victorino, and freakin Brett Myers to pick up the slack. Our 6-7-8-9 has been almost automatic outs, and Kemp producing from the 6 hole totally changes the dynamic of the lineup.

2008-10-10 17:21:29
1050.   Jon Weisman
I guess Kemp's deep fly to center field in the ninth yesterday doesn't count. Nor does his bid to go with a pitch with two on in the first inning yesterday, which became a fly to right. Nor does his double to right field yesterday. Nor do his two walks today. Nor does him making solid contact in the third inning today. Nope, he struck out twice today, so he's atrocious.
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2008-10-10 17:21:35
1051.   ToyCannon
Nomar has been lousy against RHP pitching all year. Make it a top premium closer like Lidge and the probability of him getting a hit was about as high as a pitcher getting three hits in one game when he had only 4 all season.
2008-10-10 17:22:00
1052.   DBrim
Torre definitely proved to me tonight that he isn't used to managing in the National League.
2008-10-10 17:22:01
1053.   Linkmeister
The Rays better beat Boston tonight. I gotta go at least one for two today, and after what the stock market's been doing, I need a lift.
2008-10-10 17:22:43
1054.   Bob Timmermann
I'm feeling a little bummed. I may go hang out in Mudville tonight. I hear that people are happy there.
2008-10-10 17:23:03
1055.   Bluebleeder87
1039

manifestation's of a young pitcher THAT'S ALL... he won 16 games for us 16!! he is younger than what's his face (Lincecum) if you ask me, our future is freaking awesome man... the sensibilities are endless for Bills & company (all the rooks) this is just a bump in the road for greatness.

2008-10-10 17:24:42
1056.   fanerman
1042 That's me every day. Well, it would be if my roommate didn't watch ESPN.
2008-10-10 17:25:24
1057.   underdog
1050 Against the best closer in baseball.

Yeah, I'm finding Kemp-bashing beyond reason at this point. No question he's had some bad at bats. But these starts to feel to me like we had with Broxton for awhile. Anything bad is exploded beyond reason; anything good is conveniently ignored.

I won't say Kemp hasn't done as much as I'd like him to have done in the past month or so, but I also remember he's done plenty of good things even while struggling. And he walked twice before facing the toughest closer in the game right now. Anyway, hopefully he hits a three run homer in the next game so we can all feel happy.

2008-10-10 17:25:38
1058.   ToyCannon
1050
You are using lazy fly balls and a lucky double as points in his favor? The only balls he has hit hard were on the ground. He has been lousy in the postseason, he's not the goat but I don't why we should sugarcoat the fact he's been anything but effective during the postseason.
2008-10-10 17:26:09
1059.   Bluebleeder87
1055

*possibilities

2008-10-10 17:26:43
1060.   underdog
1054 Well, whatever you do, I implore you not to go back to Rockville.
2008-10-10 17:28:08
1061.   underdog
1048 Yeah. Honestly, if the Dodgers can't score some runs against Moyer, they don't really deserve this series anyway. If the "Good/Home Kuroda" is pitching that game, I feel optimistic.
2008-10-10 17:30:18
1062.   ucladodger
1058

Thank you. He just hasnt performed well in the post-season, and to me, he is a huge key in getting back in the series. He needs to come through in some of these spots with RISP. Today was the second time in 5 games (i think, might be 3 times) he's k'd with a runner on 3rd and 0 or 1 out, and against this Philly team he really does need to come through.

2008-10-10 17:30:37
1063.   JRSarno
Goating anyone in particular is too hyperbolic at this juncture. The point remains: Manny got this team back into the game, and no one could deliver in 5 innings of a veritable 3-0 game past the 5th inning. The failure was collective.
2008-10-10 17:30:59
1064.   Alex41592
Honestly, I can't believe some of the complaining. We just lost Game 2 of the N.L.C.S on the road. Sometimes you lose because the other team was better that day. The Phillies have been better twice more than us so far. Would you rather be any other team in the National League right now besides Philadelphia?

Every other team is sitting at home preparing for 2009 and/or watching us wishing they were us. I'm extremely proud of our team. They deserve to be where they are and they're coming home to a crowd that will be rocking Sunday night.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."

2008-10-10 17:31:09
1065.   JJ42
No matter what, we still had a chance to tie it up to the last strike. I still like our team and our chances. Plus, we got to see a glimpse of the future with both McDonald and Kershaw shutting down the Phillies and their big hitters. No matter what, from where we were in mid-August, I'm just enjoying the ride -it's all been a bonus.
2008-10-10 17:31:26
1066.   scooplew
1004 Addendum:
1966 -- Lost first two at home to Baltimore in World Series. Lost series in four games.
2008-10-10 17:32:30
1067.   JJ42
Plus, like someone said the other day, they thought that the whiffle ball game was going to be the highlight of the season. Win or lose, this is fun.
2008-10-10 17:32:53
1068.   Jon Weisman
1058 - I wouldn't say he has had a good postseason, but you can't tell me people haven't been piling on. The ninth inning flyball yesterday was not lazy, and you know what - the double and the walks count. He is facing good pitching, after all. Are the Phillies throwing back any of their cheapies?

It's one thing to wish Kemp were doing better, but people have really been ripping him. I happen to think it's been too much. You can disagree.

2008-10-10 17:32:57
1069.   JRSarno
1064 - I'm wondering if you'd find anyone here who'd willingly take that bait and say, "yes, I would rather be the Pirates right now." Sort of an irrelevant comparison. Sure, we'd rather be where we are in the NLCS rather than at home. But the micro question is, would I rather be 1-1 v. 0-2.
2008-10-10 17:34:11
1070.   das411
SAGER HAS OUTDONE HIMSELF!!
2008-10-10 17:34:41
1071.   scooplew
1064 Thank you, Mr. Churchill.
2008-10-10 17:36:15
1072.   scooplew
1064 What we needed when Chan Ho Park came in in the 3rd inning today was "The end of the big inning."
2008-10-10 17:39:51
1073.   scooplew
Yes, we are all disappointed, but there were very good signs today, particularly the relief pitching of McDonald, Kershaw and Wade. At the end of that eight-game losing streak near the end of August, who would have thought we'd be in the NLCS? A few breaks here and there and we could have won either or both games in Philly. Now we go back to L.A. against some generally mediocre pitching for a couple of games. I still like our chances.
2008-10-10 17:43:26
1074.   Bluebleeder87
i wonder if the relievers we left off the roster are PO'ed right now.
2008-10-10 17:48:04
1075.   PDH5204
Jon, Joe Maddon would bench Matt Kemp for today. You don't get to play a single into a double in the NLCS through lack of effort, and that's what it was. It wasn't luck, as the one soul intimated, as Rollins did the sensible thing when about to be overmatched and simply tried to hit the ball past the pitcher and on out into the OF. It worked. But he didn't deserve a double, and they didn't deserve runners on second and third. It was Matt's gift, and it was one or both runs.

And a big game from our reputed "ace" would have been nice. But the god had feet of clay.

2008-10-10 17:49:44
1076.   Bilshaw
Chan Ho Park is good for nothing.That's what he always does
2008-10-10 17:53:35
1077.   bhsportsguy
1076 Did you watch the whole season or does only today count.

Look losing sucks, but I don't think definitive statements about players are really appropriate, for good or bad, this assortment of players got them here and it will be these guys who will try to win 4 before losing 2 more games.

2008-10-10 17:58:00
1078.   Sam DC
BH is right that Howard Johnson is right that Olson Johnson is . . .

Anyhow, benching Matt Kemp so Juan Pierre could play centerfield does not sound win win to me.

It's been a tight series, with a lot of huge impact that could easily have gone different ways. It's not that the players who flubbed or came up big don't get their lumps or their credit, but it's been close all the way.

2008-10-10 17:58:12
1079.   underdog
Kemp made a mistake, I don't know if it was lack of effort. He just misplayed that ball. Chad had a bad day, no doubt. He's been one of the best pitchers in baseball all season. It happens. The Dodgers will have plenty of chances to even this series up before too long. The exaggerations and grand pronouncements are a bit much. If y'all would rather have noodlearmed Pierre playing CF and expect great things to happen there on defense, you're welcome to it. I'd rather take my chances to Kemp.

And with that, off to do laundry and sigh a lot.

2008-10-10 17:58:57
1080.   underdog
chances with, not to. I need protein apparently.
2008-10-10 17:59:54
1081.   underdog
And thank you Alex and JJ and company for remaining rational and upbeat. See y'all Sunday!
2008-10-10 17:59:57
1082.   bigcpa
Billingsley's 2nd inning brought back painful memories of this:

S Rolen Strikeout Swinging
J Edmonds Strikeout Swinging
E Renteria Single to LF
R Sanders Single to CF
M Matheny Single to LF; Renteria Scores

Rollins, Utley, Howard, Burrell 2-for-14. We essentially gave up 8 runs to the Nats.

2008-10-10 18:00:19
1083.   trainwreck
Protein and tissues for dinner at underdog's.
2008-10-10 18:00:46
1084.   oshea2002
I don't know how this has become Kemp's fault. What have DeWitt (who's been glorified as some hero) and Blake done differently then Kemp? How about Raffy this series? I know Kemp hasn't been great the last month - but come on. I agree, he's not been good, and I stated earlier, I bet if it was Blanton in game 3, Joe would go to Pierre. But we didn't score yesterday, that's why we lost - yet Kemp scored one of the two runs after a double. Tonight - Bills was terrible, if you're gonna blame people, it's on him, not the offense.
2008-10-10 18:01:00
1085.   bhsportsguy
Playoffs are like this, if Phillies pitchers had no hits in the first two games, the Dodgers could be up 2-0.

But then, the Cubs probably were not too far away winning a game or two themselves.

CC Sabathia walked Brett Myers last week and look what happened to him.

Crazy things happen all the time in baseball, in the playoffs it just stands out more.

If Jorge Posada had thrown out Dave Roberts...

2008-10-10 18:08:30
1086.   Branch Rickey
The tide here is always dramatic and expectedly it's more so at the end of a stressful playoff game. Kemp is not a bad player and he's a big part of this team. But the fact is he's had some particularly ugly ABs recently. It's not the results, it's the look. His approach has reverted and he just looks helpless against breaking pitches away. Bottom line is though that he's one of those who brought us to the dance and we shall dance with him for as long as the band is playing. And we'll ask him to the Dance next year too and hope he's learned some new steps.
2008-10-10 18:14:54
1087.   Branch Rickey
And I hope he gets paired up with that Julianne girl. She's hot!
2008-10-10 18:16:37
1088.   trainwreck
I think Jeff Kent should do Dancing With the Stars.
2008-10-10 18:19:31
1089.   Jacob Burch
I cannot believe I have seen two posters hint that maybe starting Juan Freaking Pierre over Matt Kemp could be a wise decision.

I'm done with comments for a couple of days--mostly because I'll be away, but this is just silly.

Looking forward to seeing some of you at the top deck Sunday!

2008-10-10 18:34:10
1090.   D4P
Kemp's biggest problem is that he doesn't hit righties very well, which is obviously a big problem given the ratio of righties to lefties he's bound to face.
2008-10-10 18:53:03
1091.   Johnny Nucleo
Not a fun game to watch, but if Chad pitches another game it's unlikely that his BABIP will be .800 again.
2008-10-10 19:06:30
1092.   LogikReader
Hey guys, I'm back. And I still don't have my ice cream. Grr!

I had a chance to review details of this game. It just doesn't seem fair! How does the pitcher get 3 RBIs? Did you, like I, feel like the universe doesn't want the Dodgers to win?

Well, it's just one game and the Phils held serve. There's still plenty of series to go. I'm just so, so frustrated the Dodgers can't win a game at Citizens Bank Park this year. What gives?

2008-10-10 19:07:31
1093.   trainwreck
1092
When I saw that Charlie Manuel's mother passed away, I naturally assumed the Baseball Gods would not let us win this one.
2008-10-10 19:07:48
1094.   DBrim
1092 - Hopefully we'll remedy that soon.

Now, more than ever, I see that baseball is a game of inches.

2008-10-10 19:08:16
1095.   trainwreck
Of course, I also realize that is totally irrational.
2008-10-10 19:20:50
1096.   fanerman
1095 It makes perfect sense to me.
2008-10-10 19:23:30
1097.   El Lay Dave
0 There is hope for the future. When the Dodgers are ready for a new and better NLCS, all this will someday come to pass, in the Big Dodger In The Sky's good time.
2008-10-10 19:27:58
1098.   LogikReader
1093

Strangely I felt the same. When something like that happens, it's almost a given Manuel would get his boys to win one for him.

I'm glad the Phils were able to help him through an otherwise sad day.

2008-10-10 19:28:47
1099.   LogikReader
For those of your not following the game at the Griddle, the ALCS game 1 in Tampa is getting iiiiiiiiinteresting!
2008-10-10 19:58:47
1100.   LogikReader
Tampa Bay game no longer interesting as of a half hour ago.

Where'd everybody go?

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2008-10-10 19:59:27
1101.   FirstMohican
Has anyone seen this?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3637274

Is it really that big of a deal to blame pitch selection? Seems like an author trying to make something out of nothing, maybe I'm wrong.

2008-10-10 20:01:13
1102.   milkshakeballa
Some of you guys need to relax. Pierre over Kemp??? Are you kidding me? The biggest issue with the Dodgers right now is Furcal. He NEEDS to get on base. If he doesn't, we won't score a lot of runs. We are fine. The Phillies have Moyer, Blanton and then Hamels going against Bills in Game 5 @ DS. I can ASSURE you Bills will not pitch like this again. And I can assure you we are going to put some runs on the board against Moyer and Blanton. One game at a time though. WE GOT THIS!!!
2008-10-10 20:15:24
1103.   Dark Horse
I'm weirdly sanguine about this series. It isn't over, I like our chances for the next few games in LA. I wish some--some, mind--of our young players were more seasoned (i.e., I wish we had the Kemp and Bills of their absolute primes to run out there right now), but I hardly blame them for today's loss.

I'm fretful looking ahead. If Manny's gone, Lowe's gone, Penny's gone, and our infield is a hole...is this our best chance? I worry about that, with McColletti at the wheel. Win now or bust? Maybe. And that scares me.

2008-10-10 20:17:09
1104.   Jon Weisman
NPUT
2008-10-10 20:17:09
1105.   El Lay Dave
In less than 24 hours I had to euthanize one of my dogs (last night, he was quite elderly, and it was definitely his time) and my team dropped the first two games of their series. If I get home and find my wife has moved out, I'll get right to writing that old-school country song that must be in me.
2008-10-10 20:18:53
1106.   Jon Weisman
Very sorry about your dog, Dave.
2008-10-10 20:20:08
1107.   El Lay Dave
1106 Thanks. I am at peace with that; it was the right decision at the appropriate time. But it is never easy.
2008-10-10 20:22:18
1108.   KG16
If Jorge Posada had thrown out Dave Roberts...

I'll finish that sentence for you:

If Jorge Posada had thrown out Dave Roberts, the Yankees would have swept the Red Sox, Francona would have been fired, the Red Sox would not have won the World Series, and the world would be a better place.

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