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*$475,000 Chad Billingsley
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*$405,000 Eric Stults
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*$1,300,000 Scott Proctor
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*$400,000 Chin-Lung Hu
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2008-10-10 12:00
by Jon Weisman

Dodger Thoughts, September 18, 2007:

I do keep thinking about that error Rafael Furcal made 11 days ago in San Francisco. The team was on such a roll before that inadvertent stumble. For me, so much changed from that point on. It's been uphill ever since.
The irrational part of me worries about a repeat. Not just because Furcal's error Thursday pivoted a win into a loss, but the idea that it could be a harbinger of the good times no longer rolling.

That being said, I'm not overcome by a doomsday feeling. I'll be on the edge of my seat today the same way I was for Game 1.

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Dodgers at Phillies, 1:35 p.m.

Some computer-bound folks found this link useful.

Comments (1105)
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2008-10-10 12:03:50
1.   ToyCannon
That is just hurtful to bring that up.
2008-10-10 12:04:15
2.   Who Is Karim Garcia
agreed.
2008-10-10 12:05:34
3.   Linkmeister
What's that cliché? "From little acorns mighty oak trees grow."

Let's hope that error isn't a harbinger of doom.

To be clear, I don't think things like that carry over from game to game.

2008-10-10 12:07:29
4.   Bluebleeder87
gee thanks Jon...
2008-10-10 12:07:39
5.   Kevin Lewis
LAT'ed twice in one day!

40. Kevin Lewis
Does anyone know if the "Fox Feeds" link will actually play the game over MLB.com?

2008-10-10 12:07:46
6.   Jim Hitchcock
4 Unless you're the Cubs...
2008-10-10 12:08:12
7.   Kevin Lewis
Scratch that...I actually clicked on Jon's link and found the answer
2008-10-10 12:08:43
8.   Jim Hitchcock
Whoops, meant 3 . Oh, and we're not the Cubs.
2008-10-10 12:10:50
9.   fanerman
I think I was at that game.
2008-10-10 12:13:01
10.   Jon Weisman
It's amazing to think the Dodgers could still have 13 games left. Imagine how strung out we'll be if we go that far.
2008-10-10 12:13:37
11.   Alex41592
These things change quickly. With the weird shadows and awkward timing of today's game I expect something weird on the field today. Hopefully, to our advantage. Perhaps the baseball gods way of making up for Kemp losing the ball in the sun back in August in Philly.
2008-10-10 12:17:46
12.   Alex41592
Also, look for Nomar to start somewhere in Game 3.

Nomar vs. Jamie Moyer:

15 for 36

.417/.432/.722/1.155

2008-10-10 12:26:31
13.   JoeyP
I cant remember the last time the Dodgers had so many veteran free agents:

Furcal
Lowe
Manny
Blake
Kent
Nomar
Penny (option)

Do the Dodgers re-up any of them?
Does how far they go in the playoffs affect whether they are re-signed?

I think if the Dodgers win the NLCS, the pressure will be on the GM to bring them all back. However, if it loses, I could see the decisions being easier publically for going a different direction (and Ned & McCourt have always been about public relations-1st, baseball decisions-2nd).

2008-10-10 12:27:16
14.   DBrim
RIP Charlie Manuel's mom. That's so sad, and it really sucks to happen now, too. I wish him all the best.
2008-10-10 12:29:54
15.   ToyCannon
13
Who cares as we are still playing baseball on Oct 10th for the 1st time in 20 years. Unlike years past we don't need to talk about next year, this year is still happening.
2008-10-10 12:31:52
16.   Disabled List
I think we will make efforts to re-sign Nomar, Furcal and Manny (I'm optimistic).

Bye bye Blake, Penny, Lowe and Kent.

2008-10-10 12:33:46
17.   ToyCannon
http://tinyurl.com/3pr8as

Strange story, what possible benefit would Magic have had to fake his Aids. Can anyone say anything with a mike? I've never quite understood libel laws.

2008-10-10 12:38:21
18.   Bob Timmermann
17
As a public figure, Magic Johnson would face a very, very tough battle to get any monetary damages from those characters for libel or slander.
2008-10-10 12:38:39
19.   dzzrtRatt
16 I think we'll try to resign Lowe, too.

I think we'll drive a pretty hard bargain for Furcal and Nomar. They might not be impressed and are 50-50 to go elsewhere.

I think we're in the hunt for Manny at whatever price.

2008-10-10 12:41:01
20.   D4P
If we do sign Manny, who plays centerfield, and what happens to the two other guys not playing centerfield?
2008-10-10 12:42:10
21.   Eric Stephen
17
I would like to channel my rage into today's baseball game, so here goes:

One of the radio hosts in question is named Chris Baker. Today, this article ran about Phillies fans:

http://tinyurl.com/4lfw9k

The first sentence: "Chris Baker doesn't have to wear his Phillies loyalty on his sleeve — he's got it tattooed on his arm."

Transitive property:

a) Chris Baker thinks Magic faked AIDS (even though Magic doesn't have AIDS; he's HIV positive)

b) Chris Baker is a Phillies fan with a tattoo on his arm

c) Phillies' fans think Magic Johnson faked AIDS

Dodgers 8, Phillies 2

(wood knocked)

2008-10-10 12:45:50
22.   underdog
Yep, Fanerman and I were both at that fateful game in SF last year. Glad to know the omen, or the blame can go to Raffy, since we weren't at last night's game; for awhile I thought it was our fault. Whew!

Oh, and Bob, from previous thread re: elderly parents of elderly people -- it's true. My grandfather passed away late last year at the age of 100 just months before my dad turned 70, and was pretty healthy up until his last few months. May we all live that long.

Here's to a reverse of yesterday's score.

2008-10-10 12:45:52
23.   FirstMohican
13 - Even if the Dodgers win it all, I don't see how they could possibly afford to resign all.

Here's a shot in the dark at their 09 salaries:

Furcal -15M
Lowe - 15M
Manny - 25M
Blake - 10M
Kent - 5M
Nomar - 5M
Penny - 9M

That's around 85M for 7 players.

2008-10-10 12:46:55
24.   trainwreck
21
Of course he is a Phillies fan. ; )
2008-10-10 12:47:56
25.   fanerman
20 I thought the phrase "who plays centerfield" was a modifier for Manny and not an independent clause.

I have no idea if I'm using those words properly but I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about.

2008-10-10 12:48:33
26.   JoeyP
15- I think its relevant because how the team does in this game, and the rest of the series will go a long way towards deciding if this team comes back or is revamped.
2008-10-10 12:51:08
27.   underdog
23 Kent, Nomar and I'm pretty sure Penny are not coming back. You can scratch them off the list, imho. Lowe is doubtful, though I wouldn't mind bringing him back. Even if they try to re-sign him, I picture him heading east next year. To me, Furcal, Manny and Blake (possibly in that order) are the only ones there's a decent chance they'll try to bring back.
2008-10-10 12:52:22
28.   wronghanded
Oh wow, the game starts at 1:35 PST? I was trying to schedule my lunch break for the first few innings and was packing up to leave... thank goodness I checked Dodger Thoughts.
2008-10-10 12:53:54
29.   fordprefect
Sorry if this has been brought up already, but did Vin make the trip back east for these games?
2008-10-10 12:54:30
30.   FirstMohican
27 - Agreed, yet I wasn't by any means advocating for their return. I was just estimating what they'd all make to point out that they couldn't possibly all be resigned by the Dodgers.
2008-10-10 12:54:57
31.   Eric Stephen
26
But as a fan, are you rooting for them to win today or in the next two weeks because of how it affects the offseason, or because you want them to win?
2008-10-10 12:54:59
32.   Alex41592
29 - Yes. He'll call every remaining Dodger game this season on radio only.
2008-10-10 12:55:13
33.   Eric Stephen
29
Yes
2008-10-10 12:55:24
34.   Who Is Karim Garcia
23

Whoever gives Blake 10 million a year deserves to be fired. From everything. For the rest of their life.

I also believe that Manny is rumored to be asking for 5yrs, 80mil.

2008-10-10 12:56:05
35.   fanerman
34 5 years 80 million seems a bit low.
2008-10-10 12:59:39
36.   Jon Weisman
35 - The rumor was 5/85, but like most rumors, it didn't seem credible to me.
2008-10-10 12:59:50
37.   Disabled List
27 I think Nomar will be back. Where else would he go? Unless he reallyreallyreally wants a guaranteed starting job, and there's another team out there willing to give him one, I think his best option is to come back to LA and be Mr. SuperSub bench guy again.
2008-10-10 13:00:41
38.   Jon Weisman
Maybe Manny ends up with a contract below $20 million a year, but there's no way that's his asking price. Not after he opted out of two years of options at more than $20m.
2008-10-10 13:01:05
39.   Bob Timmermann
For those of you not marshaling at home, Cloris Leachman will be the grand marshal for the 2009 Tournament of Roses.
2008-10-10 13:01:28
40.   underdog
34 He'll regret it. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of his life.
2008-10-10 13:01:41
41.   wronghanded
I think 4/85 seems more realistic.
2008-10-10 13:01:56
42.   Who Is Karim Garcia
35

FWIW, here is the link that says that Boras wants at least 5yrs 85.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/oct/06/postseason-insider-beckett-says-his-ok-others-thin/?partner=RSS

2008-10-10 13:03:45
43.   Who Is Karim Garcia
38

The way the picture is being painted it seems more to me that Manny letting those two years go has more to do with leaving Boston and Boras making sure he got himself paid.

2008-10-10 13:05:49
44.   FirstMohican
Fox had music from a christian punk band during the intro to the game... odd choice for baseball. Wonder how they picked that song.
2008-10-10 13:06:50
45.   FirstMohican
34 - You familiar with the phrase "shot in the dark"?
2008-10-10 13:08:14
46.   Jon Weisman
42 - "Agent Scott Boras has let it be known through his media outlets"

Who actually spoke to Boras?

2008-10-10 13:11:52
47.   D4P
Who actually spoke to Boras?

Wasn't me. I wouldn't give that guy the time of day.

2008-10-10 13:13:06
48.   Bumsrap
I think the Angels will be in the Manny game next year if they do not sign Teireira. The Dodgers might try to get Lowe if they don't get CC and that will be the backup plan for lots of teams.
2008-10-10 13:13:11
49.   Jon Weisman
47 - Would you give him the wrong time of day, just to throw him off the scent?
2008-10-10 13:15:02
50.   Who Is Karim Garcia
34

Wasn't criticizing you, sorry. I don't think your numbers are that far off. Blake at 10mil would be a blunder, however.

46
Like I said, for what it's worth. Manny has made a splash here and hasn't shown much of a decline, however, I find it hard to believe that Manny will get the 5yr, 100mil that I heard thrown around before.

Anyone have a feed for the game? Other than the fox feed, that is.

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2008-10-10 13:17:46
51.   Frip
I wish the Dodgers weren't playing today. I hate being disappointed on a Friday. Like the teacher giving a really hard math test just before the weekend. They better win today, so I can be a happy drunk tonight. If not, WATCH OUT INLAND EMPIRE!
2008-10-10 13:17:51
52.   Bumsrap
I am getting a little bored, anybody have any ideas as to what I could do?
2008-10-10 13:18:40
53.   D4P
49
Aah, who am I kidding. The guy probably has a Rolex on every appendage.
2008-10-10 13:19:47
54.   Bumsrap
53 - ouch
2008-10-10 13:21:35
55.   Who Is Karim Garcia
53 Maybe that's what happened to Winslow?
2008-10-10 13:24:38
56.   KG16
when you get that feeling of impending doom, you just have to remember: past success (or failure) is not an indication of future success (or failure); all that matters is the here and now, play the game in front of you and let the universe take care of everything else.
2008-10-10 13:27:04
57.   KG16
also, thanks for the fox feed link. i was trying to figure out how to get the wide screen off the conference room wall and into my office, and then how to hook up the cable. this is much easier.
2008-10-10 13:27:40
58.   Disabled List
55 Please. My stomach is still queasy from watching the stock market today. And I still have the game to get through.

I can already tell I'm gonna be visiting with Mr. Daniels and Mr. Beam tonight.

2008-10-10 13:30:06
59.   trainwreck
Feels odd watching Fox at 1:30 in the afternoon on a weekday.
2008-10-10 13:31:13
60.   KG16
59 - yeah, isn't this the time they'd normally have I Love Lucy reruns, or Divorce Court?
2008-10-10 13:35:18
61.   Jim Hitchcock
Well, at least I've got ESPN Radio (sigh).
2008-10-10 13:35:57
62.   DBrim
Fozzy Bear!
2008-10-10 13:36:57
63.   dzzrtRatt
I assume Beimel wrote that? Funny.

He's a dead wringer for the lead actor on "Entourage," eh?

2008-10-10 13:37:10
64.   Kevin Lewis
Is there a link of the actual fox broadcast and not just the 4 camera angle?
2008-10-10 13:37:36
65.   dzzrtRatt
I guess that should be "dead ringer," unless he's taken up doing laundry at a mortuary.
2008-10-10 13:37:39
66.   D4P
Blake "The Baby Mullet" DeWitt
2008-10-10 13:37:42
67.   KG16
funny, gameday is ahead of the fox feed
2008-10-10 13:37:48
68.   Bluebleeder87
61

same here.

2008-10-10 13:37:48
69.   Jacob Burch
They need to let Beimel do all of the lineup annoucements.
2008-10-10 13:38:11
70.   oshea2002
If Philly is gonna go throwback, go 80's.
2008-10-10 13:38:27
71.   D4P
Are those the Phillies's normal uniforms...?
2008-10-10 13:38:40
72.   trainwreck
From the looks of Martin's late reactions, the hitters cannot see anything right now.
2008-10-10 13:38:55
73.   El Lay Dave
Bah, I have an unduckable 2:00 meeting today. Obviously called by a non-baseball fan.
2008-10-10 13:39:43
74.   El Lay Dave
And my firewall prevents anything good from getting through, so I can only follow through DT, yahoo, sportsline or similar.
2008-10-10 13:39:46
75.   trainwreck
Myers throws the ball two feet behind Manny.
2008-10-10 13:39:50
76.   Bluebleeder87
it sounds like his curve is good today, he does throw a very straight fastball though.
2008-10-10 13:39:51
77.   Jim Hitchcock
Wow, will that pitch be off the screen on Gameday?
2008-10-10 13:40:02
78.   fordprefect
uh-oh.
2008-10-10 13:40:03
79.   Jacob Burch
73 Ditto, but it should be short.
2008-10-10 13:40:08
80.   mwhite06
I guess Chad will be throwing some high and tight after all.
2008-10-10 13:40:42
81.   underdog
Hah hah. I'm still chuckling at Beimel's line-up intro. Ethier as "Troy from West Virginia's wannabe."
2008-10-10 13:41:27
82.   D4P
Juussstt a bit inside.
2008-10-10 13:41:35
83.   thinkblue88
Manny goes down swinging, slider low and away.
2008-10-10 13:42:27
84.   Johnson
Seems to me we've had far too many swinging Ks on breaking balls down in this series.
2008-10-10 13:42:34
85.   Bluebleeder87
if Bills is right, I'm expecting a low scoring game today, Myers is on SO FAR.
2008-10-10 13:42:53
86.   El Lay Dave
I noticed that in the ninth last night, Danny Ozark had Jerry Martin take over in left for Greg Luzinski, er, Manuel subbed Bruntlett for Burrell. Not that it mattered.
2008-10-10 13:43:21
87.   Bluebleeder87
Bills is gonna be well rested so I'm expecting 93-95mph heat from him.
2008-10-10 13:43:42
88.   El Lay Dave
79 Not mine. Probably 90 min. min.
2008-10-10 13:44:04
89.   Bluebleeder87
for those watching, is Myers throwing good strikes or are the Dodger hitters swinging at bad pitches?
2008-10-10 13:44:31
90.   El Lay Dave
I thought the Phillies were supposed to be the team that strikes out a lot.
2008-10-10 13:45:45
91.   Jacob Burch
90 There ya go
2008-10-10 13:47:01
92.   Kevin Lewis
These cameras on the fox feed are killing me. How hard would it be for them to be synchronized?
2008-10-10 13:47:15
93.   KG16
89 - a little bit of both. He's got a couple of called strikes on the edges (outside to both Manny and Martin). The missed 3rd strikes look like they'd be called strikes, or at least one's that you have to defend against as a hitter.
2008-10-10 13:47:35
94.   oshea2002
89 - threw some good pitches.
2008-10-10 13:47:51
95.   thinkblue88
89.
Think "effectively wild."
2008-10-10 13:48:53
96.   Alex41592
Umpire is a tad stingy on the lower portion of the plate.
2008-10-10 13:48:54
97.   Blue81
89 I believe both final K pitches would have been called a ball had they not swung.
2008-10-10 13:49:04
98.   Kevin Lewis
Does anyone else not completely trust the Fox Track square?
2008-10-10 13:50:34
99.   El Lay Dave
98 Would Fox lie to you?
2008-10-10 13:50:55
100.   Kevin Lewis
97

I agree

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2008-10-10 13:51:30
101.   bhsportsguy
Sounded like a good inning for Chad, not that many pitches but he took his time delivering them.
2008-10-10 13:51:59
102.   still bevens
Howard not enjoying the steady diet of breaking balls he is being fed.
2008-10-10 13:52:06
103.   Kevin Lewis
99

I would love to see an explanation of how they determine where the pitch was, since any part of the plate can dictate a strike.

2008-10-10 13:52:17
104.   El Lay Dave
91 And again! These playoffs are going to be quite the rite of passage for His Royal Thighness.
2008-10-10 13:52:29
105.   FirstMohican
He was keeping Utley honest at first.
2008-10-10 13:52:44
106.   bhsportsguy
102 If he steps out and starts talking to his bat, watch out.
2008-10-10 13:53:03
107.   Blue81
I don't think I can take a close game today. Get those bats going Blue.
2008-10-10 13:53:29
108.   underdog
Chad's filthy breaking pitches, Howard has no chance at those. On the walk to previous batter, ball 4 sure looked like a strike.

Anyway, if both pitchers are on like this, yeah, this will be a stingy, low scoring game. The shadows at this time of day can't help the hitters either.

2008-10-10 13:54:54
109.   thinkblue88
Woo! Solid base hit by Ethier.
2008-10-10 13:54:57
110.   underdog
Atta boy Dre!

Okay, no DP here please, James.

2008-10-10 13:55:03
111.   Disabled List
The multiple raw camera feeds could be so cool, if they'd just give you the right cameras. Two of the four cameras are pointed at the dugout. Totally worthless. How about a static shot of the whole field, so we can see what happens when a ball is in play?
2008-10-10 13:55:17
112.   trainwreck
Ethier continues to hit.
2008-10-10 13:55:20
113.   FirstMohican
I'm surprised how much love Bills has gotten from TBS & Fox. Until the playoffs, I wasn't convinced anyone outside of LA knew who he was.
2008-10-10 13:55:26
114.   Alex41592
Leadoff base hit for Andre.
2008-10-10 13:55:29
115.   Blue81
106 Cerrano style?
2008-10-10 13:55:40
116.   JJ42
andre ethier, professional hitter.
2008-10-10 13:55:42
117.   Alex41592
Hit and run possibility here.
2008-10-10 13:56:31
118.   underdog
And THAT strike, strike 1, was so far inside, that's ridiculous. Sorry, hate to be all complainy about balls and strikes but that... sheesh.
2008-10-10 13:57:16
119.   JJ42
koufax - wow
2008-10-10 13:57:27
120.   Alex41592
That Myers curveball is breaking late and real quick. It's quite a pitch.
2008-10-10 13:57:28
121.   FirstMohican
Well, the ump is consistent with the stingy zone, at least with Loney AB.
2008-10-10 13:57:46
122.   thinkblue88
Yeah, nice to see Sandy at the game.
2008-10-10 13:57:48
123.   Sam DC
I'll hope on the "runs please" bandwagon -- I only get to watch 15 more minutes!
2008-10-10 13:58:32
124.   FirstMohican
Loney!!!!
2008-10-10 13:58:47
125.   trainwreck
Awww so close to a Loney Bomb.
2008-10-10 13:58:48
126.   Sam DC
(meant hop, but hope works better)

WGJ!!!!!!

2008-10-10 13:58:51
127.   thinkblue88
Loneyy!! ALmost gone!
2008-10-10 13:58:53
128.   Blue81
Just missed. Damn.
2008-10-10 13:59:18
129.   underdog
Does this field have an invisible force field that goes up when the Dodgers hit balls?
2008-10-10 13:59:18
130.   Branch Rickey
I thought this was a bandbox! How does that not get out?
2008-10-10 13:59:50
131.   underdog
126 Either way. Hop springs eternal!
2008-10-10 14:00:13
132.   Alex41592
A groundball scores a run.
2008-10-10 14:00:33
133.   oshea2002
Kemp's gotta come through here
2008-10-10 14:00:47
134.   Bob Timmermann
132
Not one to the pitcher.
2008-10-10 14:00:51
135.   FirstMohican
129... se