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She's Think-Ng
2008-11-22 09:19
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

Jim Molony of MLB.com profiles Dodger vice president and assistant general manager Kim Ng. An excerpt:

Even with impeccable credentials, landing a GM job is extremely difficult. Assistant GMs work their way up through the ranks, and even if their resumes pass muster, they usually have to go through at least one interview, and often two or three, before getting that first GM job offer.

"I think it was a great process," Ng said of her interview with the Dodgers three years ago. "I think it gave me an entree into a owner's thinking about things that are important to them, Frank and Jamie [McCourt]. I think [owners] think about the game and the business a little bit different than we as baseball executives may. I think the job of the GM has changed so much in the last 20 years, and I think it gave me some insight into some the ancillary things you might not necessarily think are on a GM's plate but really are." ...

Ng has learned something from each stop on her career. She has seen the old-school approach, which typically relies heavily on scouting, and the newer GMs, who rely more on statistical analysis.

"I think I'm in the middle," Ng said. "I've seen first- or second-hand the benefits of both, having worked with Ron Schueler early in my career and having worked with Paul later in my career, a big proponent of statistics. I think I've come across a lot of different people who think different ways. It's nice for me because you can pick and choose what you really believe and some of the things that don't necessarily make sense. I'm right in the middle."

She's also willing to keep an open mind, another attribute which should serve her well as GM.

"Absolutely, knowledge is huge in this game," she said. "You've seen in the last 15 years the game has changed, our thought processes have changed. You have to be open-minded. I think that's one of my strengths, being able to listen to people, hearing them out, knowing after you hear the information to synthesize the information and coming up with your own judgments as far as what makes sense and what doesn't." ...

Comments (153)
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2008-11-22 09:38:42
1.   Xeifrank
She sounds kind of like a politician trying not to burn any bridges with people on both sides of the scouting/statistics issue. I can't say I blame her, but it's the first thing that stuck out when I read this.
vr, Xei
2008-11-22 09:38:56
2.   Eric Stephen
I was just about to say it was a defensive struggle in Columbus, but Beanie Wells just broke off a 59-yard TD run.

On the first six drives, there were five "3 & out" drives and an INT.

2008-11-22 09:41:16
3.   Andrew Shimmin
It doesn't seem fair to make people say nice things about any job interview process, particularly one that ended with somebody else's getting hired. But maybe other people don't object to interviews as strenuously as I do.

Also I wonder what the Seattle GM is in charge of that she couldn't have guessed he would be. Something kinky, I bet.

2008-11-22 09:42:54
4.   Gen3Blue
It sure sounds like there are two candidates in town that would make me more comfortable than Ned. It is probably unlikely White or Ng would get to step in if Ned left, but I can hope.
2008-11-22 09:44:01
5.   Andrew Shimmin
1- Dick Morris has neither confirmed nor denied that Ng has retained him to craft a Third Way image for her continuing GM candidacy.
2008-11-22 09:46:43
6.   Eric Stephen
We would have also accepted "No Ngst Over Seattle Interview Process."
2008-11-22 09:52:26
7.   therickdaddy
There's no reason to think she wouldn't get hired. Frank has hired two new GMs since he's been here, he's obviously not scared of the idea.
2008-11-22 09:54:28
8.   Eric Stephen
Michigan State's Rose Bowl hopes, as thin as they were, are vanishing in thin air. 14-0 Buckeyes.
2008-11-22 09:55:40
9.   Bob Timmermann
I've switched over to Harvard-Yale. Then I'm getting my car washed.

The 9 am games are dogs. I've got to get ready for the Apple Cup at noon!

2008-11-22 10:07:23
10.   was it tims mitt i saw
I always worry when I read articles about her. Id rather no one knew about her, so she'd stay in Dodger blue.
2008-11-22 10:07:57
11.   Bob Timmermann
It's the Saturday before Thanksgiving and Florida is playing The Citadel and Wisconsin is playing Cal Poly SLO.

Why?

2008-11-22 10:08:31
12.   dzzrtRatt
Ng '10!

Is it really true that there will be no LA area broadcast of Cal-Stanford?

Almost every Cal game has been on TV down here this season, but this is the one they bypass? It's not even on Versus?

I realize the game has no implications for anything to do with the BCS or even the Rose Bowl, but there are a lot of Californians outside of the Bay Area who went to one of those schools.

2008-11-22 10:09:14
13.   Bob Timmermann
The pull of the Apple Cup is hard to pass up.
2008-11-22 10:14:24
14.   berkowit28
The press release about the new spring training complex contained:

"There will also be two ponds and a fully stocked lake between the Dodgers and White Sox facilities. "

As part of having separate "facilities", does that mean that each club has its own main field for ST games, or is there just one of those? I can't imagine that both teams would ever both be playing at home at the same time, so I'd guess there'd be no need for more than one main field. Or is that too logical? Does anyone know?

2008-11-22 10:16:01
15.   Eric Stephen
12
The game is available on ESPN PPV only for me in SD.
2008-11-22 10:17:45
16.   Eric Stephen
14
From the looks of the photo galleries, it looks like there is one main stadium, and a bunch of ancillary fields, and a separate clubhouse for both teams.
2008-11-22 10:19:29
17.   Bob Timmermann
16
You just used the word "ancillary" because Kim Ng did in her interview didn't you?
2008-11-22 10:21:22
18.   Eric Stephen
17
What can I say, I'm pro-management!
2008-11-22 10:27:03
19.   Bob Timmermann
Hey, Time-Warner has added ESPN360. Woo hoo! More time wasting options in my life!
2008-11-22 10:28:45
20.   Bob Timmermann
And having ESPN360 means I can watch Big Game.
2008-11-22 10:42:30
21.   berkowit28
16 Thanks. And now that I've found the complete press release, I see it goes on to say "The shared stadium... is the largest in the Cactus League". As you say, there seem to be separate clubhouses for Dodgers and White Sox, but no indication whether visiting teams use the "other team's" clubhouse, a third one, or what. Probably a designated visitors' area in one of the clubhouses, I suppose.
2008-11-22 10:45:28
22.   bhsportsguy
20 I'll stop by the Apple Pan and drop off an apple pie if you like.

Scully's Law

"Many years ago I established in my mind what I modestly called 'Scully's Law,'" said the broadcast legend accepting his award.
"That is the quality of the invitation to speak at a luncheon or a dinner always depended on the success of the Dodgers the previous summer.
So to see a large crowd here today, I do not see it as a tribute to myself, it means the Dodgers won the Western division, also beat the Cubs [in the Division Series] and came this close to going to the World Series."

http://tinyurl.com/scullyslaw

2008-11-22 10:50:56
23.   regfairfield
After yesterday's sock discussion and thinking "no one's ever ripped on me for wearing white socks with blue jeans". I had a guy do just that last night. Shimmin, be warned.
2008-11-22 10:55:02
24.   Eric Stephen
21
I would guess there are separate locker rooms for both the Dodgers and White Sox, plus others for visiting teams (similar to Staples Center).
2008-11-22 11:03:07
25.   oshea2002
game over in Columbus.
2008-11-22 11:04:08
26.   Bob Timmermann
24
I would hope there are separate lockers. Right now, I have visions of a naked Ozzie Guillen talking to a naked Andruw Jones.
2008-11-22 11:40:41
27.   Gagne55
25 There is still 14 minutes left.

Btw, for T.V. viewing purposes, San Luis Obispo is part of L.A., correct?

2008-11-22 11:54:34
28.   Andrew Shimmin
SLO isn't LA. It's something like halfway between LA and the bay area.
2008-11-22 12:03:17
29.   oshea2002
SLO may give Wisconsin a game.
2008-11-22 12:15:59
30.   Bob Timmermann
Washington State's starting QB has 10 interceptions and no TDs on the season. Even Kevin Craft is better than that.
2008-11-22 12:18:54
31.   oshea2002
30 - by comparison, UW's qb and his 4 td / 9 int and 44% completions looks pretty good.
2008-11-22 12:21:54
32.   Bob Timmermann
I guess not every school can go seven deep at each position like USC does.

Well, USC may not have seven punters.

2008-11-22 12:24:56
33.   Andrew Shimmin
Huh. TradeSports is shutting down.

http://tinyurl.com/59w382

Hypothetically speaking, if a person were inclined to gamble on sports, but really liked the futures market approach to doing so (it makes hedging much easier), are there other site that use the same model? For entertainment purposes.

2008-11-22 12:34:33
34.   Gagne55
28 I know. I live in SLO. But I think whenever there is regional coverage by T.V. networks, SLO is treated as L.A hence my qualifier. Mainly, I want to watch the Cal Poly-Wisconsin game.
2008-11-22 12:43:58
35.   Gagne55
Michigan St. vs. Penn State is on both ESPN2 and ABC!!! That irritates me.
2008-11-22 12:46:46
36.   Bob Timmermann
I don't have any game on ESPN2 now. ESPN is showing BC vs. Wake.

The Huskies draw first blood in the Apple Cup!

2008-11-22 12:50:40
37.   Gagne55
36 Yeah, I don't have a game on ESPN2 anymore either.
2008-11-22 12:51:04
38.   Gagne55
TOUCHDOWN MUSTANGS!!! (gamecast)
2008-11-22 12:52:22
39.   Bob Timmermann
I wonder if Indiana Jon had a rooting interest in the Old Oaken Bucket game today.

I'm really hoping that Syracuse can beat Notre Dame today. That would be a great way for the Irish's home season to end.

Next Saturday is the day I root for USC to score and score often.

2008-11-22 13:01:07
40.   D4P
I'm really hoping that Syracuse can beat Notre Dame today

If not today, it will probably be a while.

2008-11-22 13:02:34
41.   oshea2002
I'm sure all the recruits that SC and ND are battling for who are on their officials to ND this weekend are quite impressed.
2008-11-22 13:06:24
42.   bhsportsguy
I'm sure someeone will write, Jimmy's Prayer Was Answered.

But that person won't be Bob.

2008-11-22 13:06:38
43.   Bob Timmermann
I hate Charlie Weis more than D4P hates Bill Belichick.

And I hate Jimmy Clausen more than D4P hates Tom Brady.

2008-11-22 13:09:12
44.   Gagne55
Watching football on gamecast really makes me realize how slow of a game football really is.
2008-11-22 13:10:49
45.   D4P
43
That's a lot of suns' heat worth of hatred.
2008-11-22 13:12:33
46.   Gagne55
Cal Poly picked up 20 yards on the exchange of punts. (59 yards vs. 39 yards)
2008-11-22 13:17:45
47.   Bob Timmermann
If it weren't for Notre Dame football, I never would have learned how to develop a blind hatred for something. I think it made me a more complete human being.
2008-11-22 13:21:20
48.   D4P
Just wait until Notre Dame cheats UCLA out of the national championship.

You'll mature in ways you never thought possible.

2008-11-22 13:21:20
49.   trainwreck
41
I would still be shocked if Barkley de-commits. I just do not see it happening.
2008-11-22 13:24:29
50.   Gagne55
TOUCHDOWN MUSTANGS!!!! Punt return touchdown!
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2008-11-22 13:26:11
51.   Gagne55
missed extra point?
2008-11-22 13:34:05
52.   Bumsrap
26 Bob, just don't make a movie out of your visions!
2008-11-22 13:35:45
53.   Bob Timmermann
Free football in Vermillion!
2008-11-22 13:36:03
54.   oshea2002
49 - Barkley is not gonna decommit. There's talk of Byron Moore possibly switching to ND though.
2008-11-22 13:36:22
55.   Bumsrap
Has anybody tethered a blackberry to their computer for the purpose of surfing the web? If so, what was the speed like?
2008-11-22 13:40:49
56.   Gagne55
What I said in 38 .
2008-11-22 13:41:02
57.   Bob Timmermann
55
I can do that? I just use my computer as a charger for my BlackBerry.
2008-11-22 13:41:51
58.   Gagne55
53 Lt. Surge lives in Vermillion.
2008-11-22 13:46:52
59.   Gagne55
Arg! The Mustangs really can't stop those two-minute drill drives at the end of the half. UC Davis did the same thing last week.
2008-11-22 13:50:05
60.   Gagne55
And it's a 20-14 halftime lead.
2008-11-22 13:57:51
61.   Bob Timmermann
The Notre Dame student section has been throwing snowballs at its own players.

I'm guessing that there has been some drinking before the game.

2008-11-22 13:58:06
62.   oshea2002
Syracuse should just go for it on every 4th down seeing as they can't seem to execute a punt.
2008-11-22 13:59:18
63.   trainwreck
54
Since he already de-committed from UCLA, I do not like him very much. He would be another Shaq Evans. Marlon Pollard is also on my list.
2008-11-22 14:02:05
64.   oshea2002
63 - true, but I think everyone saw Moore to SC coming. Moore switching to ND would be a real shocker.

I'm surprised Shaq didn't end up at ucla. I know we were after him, but I think he always knew Jefferson was SC's number 1 in state WR target, although apparently he'll never qualify. ND seems to do really well against UCLA for players, although if they blow this game and lose by 50 next week, I'm not sure Weis makes it to next year.

2008-11-22 14:02:21
65.   trainwreck
I hate when California kids go away from the West, especially to Notre Dame!
2008-11-22 14:03:58
66.   trainwreck
64
While both programs stink, Notre Dame is still Notre Dame, so it is not surprising they keep beating UCLA in recruiting.
2008-11-22 14:03:58
67.   Bob Timmermann
I didn't mind Clausen going to Notre Dame as he is the embodiment of all that is evil in the world.

I read about in the Bible.

It's toward the back.

2008-11-22 14:06:13
68.   Gagne55
67 The beast with seven heads and ten horns?
2008-11-22 14:06:37
69.   trainwreck
67
I would have been fine with hating him at USC.
2008-11-22 14:06:41
70.   oshea2002
espn.com already has the snow ball story up.
2008-11-22 14:07:01
71.   D4P
Jimmy and Jesus have the same initials.
2008-11-22 14:08:33
72.   Bob Timmermann
Would Jimmy Clausen have gotten a chance to play at USC? It's not like USC is short of quarterbacks.

Garrett Green is probably better than Clausen.

2008-11-22 14:09:24
73.   oshea2002
72 - so is Dayne Crist
2008-11-22 14:10:46
74.   trainwreck
72
But think of the fun you would have watching him get angry just sitting on the bench.
2008-11-22 14:11:52
75.   trainwreck
I like the ESPN article that said Pete Carroll has over-recruited so much that he has depleted the Pac-10 teams of talent, so it is his fault for the Pac-10 being bad. : )
2008-11-22 14:14:04
76.   Bob Timmermann
75
Yes, there's a lack of competitive balance in the Pac-10. I think there should be talent-sharing. Perhaps there should be a draft to pick the best talent. The loser of the Apple Cup game gets the first pick!

If a player transfers to another school, your school gets a sandwich pick.

2008-11-22 14:15:55
77.   trainwreck
76
UCLA would probably draft Ken Norton Jr.
2008-11-22 14:16:12
78.   oshea2002
75 - that article was laughable. It's not SC that's done it, its the Michigan's and Notre Dame's coming in here and taking California kids that's hurting the other Pac 10 schools. I do believe not one other Pac 10 team has a Rivals 5-star in the last 2-3 years, but it's not SC's fault, it's their own fault.
2008-11-22 14:17:37
79.   trainwreck
78
It is not as fun to use logic and reason. A lot funner to blame our problems on Pete Carroll.
2008-11-22 14:18:13
80.   oshea2002
I just realized I've got the Cal Poly v. Wisconsin game on TV - it's on 609 for anyone with DirecTV.
2008-11-22 14:20:51
81.   oshea2002
Mustangs are marching again
2008-11-22 14:22:01
82.   Bob Timmermann
I've resigned myself to Notre Dame winning, so I will give my mental energy to Cal Poly. And the Apple Cup!

I'd sort of like Washington to go 0-12. Washington at Cal on December 6 will be a thriller!

2008-11-22 14:23:05
83.   trainwreck
Wazzu looks like Utah with those helmets and uniforms.
2008-11-22 14:24:02
84.   oshea2002
76 - I've heard we are going to have a couple more transfers after the season, I guess we could demand they only go to Pac 10 schools if they want a release.
2008-11-22 14:25:05
85.   trainwreck
84
Too bad running back is one position UCLA does not need.
2008-11-22 14:26:06
86.   oshea2002
huge 4th down conversion for Cal Poly, inside the Wisky 20.
2008-11-22 14:27:52
87.   oshea2002
85 - I also wonder if someone leaves early. If you're Stafon, and you know Gable is back, Tyler is going to get his, and McKnight will always be loved by the staff, why not go pro? He'd probably be a third round pick, and it's not like his stock goes up splitting carries again next year.
2008-11-22 14:29:04
88.   bhsportsguy
Stanford fans are very frustrated right now.
2008-11-22 14:32:00
89.   trainwreck
87
I guess depends on if he thinks next year's RB class will be weaker.
2008-11-22 14:34:13
90.   Andrew Shimmin
If Washington finishes at 0-12, I'll buy a t-shirt by way of keeping a very specific collection.
2008-11-22 14:35:18
91.   Gagne55
Field goal up; it's good.
2008-11-22 14:40:24
92.   Bob Timmermann
The Apple Cup Game is the college football equivalent of a Greg Maddux start when it comes to time.
2008-11-22 14:43:47
95.   Gagne55
80 I don't have direct TV. :(
2008-11-22 14:48:28
96.   oshea2002
Cal Poly is running this wish bone like offense, but the Offensive Linemen are each like 5 feet apart, I've never seen anything like it but it's gashing Wisconsin.
2008-11-22 14:50:02
97.   D4P
the Offensive Linemen are each like 5 feet apart

Couldn't the defensive linemen just line up in between the offensive linemen, and thus have no one in between them and the backfield...?

2008-11-22 14:52:02
98.   oshea2002
97 - they could, but it's all misdirection plays by Cal Poly which is keeping them honest.
2008-11-22 14:52:38
99.   trainwreck
Come on, Syracuse!
2008-11-22 14:53:00
100.   bhsportsguy
None of UCLA's 2009 non-conference opponents (Tennessee, Kansas State and San Diego State) are going to be in a post-season bowl. Right now, their combined record is 9-24.

Oh oh, Bob may have spoken too soon.

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2008-11-22 14:53:16
101.   Bob Timmermann
Free football in Pullman!
2008-11-22 14:53:48
102.   trainwreck
Greg Robinson is really happy for a guy that will be out of a job soon.
2008-11-22 14:53:52
103.   oshea2002
I know it's better for us if ND wins, but I can't help pulling like crazy for Syracuse here, this would be hilarious.
2008-11-22 14:54:58
104.   Bob Timmermann
I think USC's BCS chances died when Florida scheduled Citadel instead of a real team this week.
2008-11-22 14:55:31
105.   oshea2002
Cal Poly converts another huge 4th down, 1st and 10 from the Wisky 14, up 2 with 9 to play.
2008-11-22 14:56:26
106.   bhsportsguy
I wonder if Utah wins today, will they jump USC in the BCS?
2008-11-22 14:57:55
107.   oshea2002
106 - maybe, they are ahead of us in most computers. Margin of victory being removed from the computers is killing us, Georgia is ahead of us in every comp. poll that counts, which is a joke.

TD Cal Poly! But another missed XP, so only up 8.

2008-11-22 14:58:58
108.   trainwreck
YEAH!!! TD SYRACUSE!
2008-11-22 14:59:49
109.   trainwreck
24-23 42 seconds left.
2008-11-22 15:00:07
110.   oshea2002
Weis will not survive a loss today. 75% of their fan base has turned on him, the rest is 40 seconds away.
2008-11-22 15:00:07
111.   Bob Timmermann
I appreciate the fact that a team called the Orange is beating the Irish.

Oh, I certainly do.

2008-11-22 15:01:09
112.   D4P
It's not easy to overcome a decided schematic disadvantage.
2008-11-22 15:02:34
113.   oshea2002
Weis to the Raiders - my prediction.
2008-11-22 15:03:41
114.   trainwreck
Weis is a control freak. He could never work with Al Davis.
2008-11-22 15:03:59
115.   bhsportsguy
107 USC can only play its schedule but this year all of their "tough" conference games were at home, their best road win was at Arizona. All of the other BCS leaders have gone on the road to win big games.

Look, without a playoff, its all guess work but if you end up with a 1 loss Alabama, Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Florida, I think USC is just a shade behind them.

Disclaimer, I do have a t-shirt riding on whether or not USC makes the title game. I have the not side.

2008-11-22 15:04:23
116.   trainwreck
Oh, you got to be kidding me.
2008-11-22 15:04:50
117.   oshea2002
Syracuse DB's - get a clue!
2008-11-22 15:05:04
118.   trainwreck
Miss the FG.

Miss it!

2008-11-22 15:05:16
119.   trainwreck
YES!!!!
2008-11-22 15:06:18
120.   bhsportsguy
No worries.
2008-11-22 15:06:39
121.   oshea2002
Pete Carroll's best friend goes out a winner.
2008-11-22 15:11:15
122.   Bob Timmermann
Double OT in Pullman! Woo hoo!
2008-11-22 15:16:55
123.   Bob Timmermann
Washington certainly isn't 0-10 by accident.
2008-11-22 15:20:21
124.   Bob Timmermann
Wazzu wins it!

I'm smelling 0-12 for the Huskies.

2008-11-22 15:22:01
125.   D4P
Washington certainly isn't 0-10 by accident

I performed a sophisticated analysis of their games this season, and found 2 pervasive patterns that I contend help explain their record.

1. They give up a lot of points
2. They don't score a lot of points

2008-11-22 15:24:21
126.   Bob Timmermann
The lack of scoring and defense is compounded by the Huskies knack for doing the worst thing at the worst time.
2008-11-22 15:28:01
127.   oshea2002
Cal Poly, at the Wisky 40, tied with 25 seconds left.
2008-11-22 15:28:49
128.   D4P
126
Sounds like they could use help with their schemata...
2008-11-22 15:31:27
129.   oshea2002
Well, here comes a 46 FG....
2008-11-22 15:34:07
130.   Bob Timmermann
An OT game in Madison. That will increase the public drunkeness arrests from 5000 to 10000.
2008-11-22 15:40:37
131.   Bob Timmermann
I guess the difference between FBS and FCS is the ability to make extra points.
2008-11-22 15:47:49
132.   Gagne55
Cal Poly needs a new kicker.
2008-11-22 15:48:22
133.   oshea2002
Not only were Teo, Gaffney, and Moore probably appalled by the fan behavior and team performance in South Bend today, but what do Evans, Pollard, and Wood think about this? Is Weis even keeping his job? I can't help but think those kids may be back in play when all is said and done.
2008-11-22 15:51:12
134.   bhsportsguy
133 Remember, the percentage of kids who change their mind after giving their verbal commit is pretty low. Unless Weis is fired, I don't think what happened today will matter to a Notre Dame commit. If you are on the fence, that's another matter.
2008-11-22 15:52:57
135.   Bob Timmermann
In South Bend, you can get pelted with snowballs. The worst thing that can happen in L.A. is that Bill Plaschke will write a column comparing you to Sasha Cohen.
2008-11-22 15:54:15
136.   oshea2002
133 - I'm basing a lot of it on the assumption that Weis may get fired, or at least the uncertainty around him will be so high that other schools will effectively negative recruit them enough to sway them.

Plus, alot of kids do flip, and the ones that do generally are kids who commit to a school far away, only to change their mind to a school closer to home at the last minute.

2008-11-22 15:54:16
137.   Gagne55
Missing three extra points in a game is rare even in high school. There were rumors that Cal Poly was going to make a bid to join the WAC and a win today would have really helped. Oh well, it's playoff time now.
2008-11-22 16:02:09
138.   godvls
Heartbreaker for Cal Poly. Three missed PAT's??? Tough way to end the season for the Mustangs. They had a great season.....will they make the playoffs?
2008-11-22 16:02:28
139.   trainwreck
Well Teo is not going there anyways. But it would sure be nice if UCLA could pick up some of those players.
2008-11-22 16:04:41
140.   Bob Timmermann
I've seen many a high school game where a team missed three PATs.

But I've also seen a lot of high school games.

2008-11-22 16:05:40
141.   Gagne55
138 Yeah, they won the Great West Conference which ensures a playoff berth.
2008-11-22 16:08:00
142.   Bob Timmermann
I won't be home tonight for the inevitable disappointment of watching Arizona beating Oregon State and sending USC to the Rose Bowl.

I predict that the Stoops brothers will go undefeated tonight.

2008-11-22 16:10:37
143.   bhsportsguy
142 Are Arizona's fans allowed to storm the field if their team wins the game?
2008-11-22 16:11:27
144.   Bob Timmermann
143
Are you going to tell 50,000 drunken U of A fans not to?
2008-11-22 16:12:27
145.   oshea2002
142 - I think alot of SC fans, myself included, want Oregon State to win.
2008-11-22 16:17:32
146.   trainwreck
145
Really? Why? Eric Stephen does not agree.
2008-11-22 16:20:14
147.   Bob Timmermann
Bill Plaschke wants USC to go to the Sugar Bowl.

And I think he speaks for all USC fans.

2008-11-22 16:21:42
148.   Tripon
146 USC fans wants to go somewhere else other than the Rose Bowl for one year.
2008-11-22 16:23:12
149.   trainwreck
You can start to lose and go to the Emerald Bowl. : )
2008-11-22 16:23:46
150.   Bob Timmermann
I remember when it was considered an honor to go to the Rose Bowl. But I'm old.
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2008-11-22 16:25:44
151.   oshea2002
146, 147 - we are in a no win position playing Penn State in the Rose Bowl. The one reason to cheer against OSU is for the national title implications, but I just don't see that happening. Remember, even if they win out, we're still Pac 10 champs, we just lose the Rose Bowl tiebreaker. USC needs a fresh shot at another conference on a big stage, either SEC or Big 12. It would energize the team, the program, and especially the fans. As sacriligious as this sounds, playing in the Rose Bowl would be a huge letdown.

Plaschke doesn't really understand the rules though, it would be very unlikely SC goes to New Orleans, with the order of picks it will be the Fiesta, v. likely a Big 12 team. The Fiesta would have to take a BCS Buster with their pick over SC (not gonna happen), or work a deal with the Sugar giving them SC for future considerations in order for SC to play in New Orleans.

2008-11-22 16:26:46
152.   trainwreck
150
I still think it is an honor. But then look who we root for.
2008-11-22 16:28:31
153.   Bob Timmermann
And Jim Tressell hasn't coached in a Rose Bowl. But Ron Zook has!
2008-11-22 16:34:01
154.   Jon Weisman
NPUT
2008-11-22 16:34:52
155.   oshea2002
153 - my fellow Champaign residents are very disappointed with the Zooker this year.

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