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Gather Ye Rosebuds While Ye May
2009-01-01 15:47
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

With the Rose Bowl zippin' outta reach, let's tune in to the fledgling MLB Network (channel locator here) for their 4 p.m. broadcast of Game 5 of the 1956 World Series (I won't spoil the ending), with Kid Scully participating as one of the announcers.

Update: Man, I want that pocket encyclopedia ...

Untitled

Update 2: Scully's call of the final out. For him, this is a bigger moment than Brooklyn's first World Series title the year before.

I think it would be safe to say that no man in the history of baseball has ever come up to hit in a more dramatic moment. That man is Dale Mitchell.

Yankee Stadium is shivering in its concrete foundation right now. Ball one.

Two out in the ninth inning, the Yankees 2, Brooklyn nothing, but this ballgame is right there on your screen: Mr. Don Larsen.

Strike one, and the crowd is roaring now, similarly to the day that Johnny Podres stood out there last year. But there is so much more at stake this afternoon.

[Big swing and a miss].

Now there is one strike left.

[Long roar, then a swing].

Fouled away, just to increase the tension.

[The final pitch].

Got him! The greatest game ever pitched in baseball history, by Don Larsen: a no-hitter and perfect game in the World Series! Never in the history of the game has it ever happened in the World Series. Only the seventh time in baseball history or World Series a perfect game has been pitched; 64,517 have seen it and a million more on TV. Don Larsen, a perfect game, retiring 27 Dodgers in a row.

And so hats off to Don Larsen. No runs, no hits, no errors, no walks - no baserunners. The final score: The Yankees two runs, five hits and no errors, the Dodgers no runs, no hits, no errors, in fact, nothing at all. This is a day to remember; this was a ballgame to remember, and above all, the greatest day in the life of Don Larsen and the most dramatic and well-pitched game in the history of baseball.

Mel, you've seen a lot of ballgames. This one you can put in your ring and wear it for a long time.

[Mel Allen:]

Well, Vinny, I've had the good luck of watching Johnny Vander Meer's second consecutive no-hitter over in Brooklyn, Allie Reynolds' two no-hitters in one season. I saw Virgil Trucks' second no-hitter, pitched against the Yankees, in one season. I saw Bob Feller pitch a no-hitter against the Yankees here. Vinny, I don't think you or I will ever see such a thing again.

[Scully:]

No, I guess we can both say, we can go now.

Comments (267)
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2009-01-01 15:54:16
1.   D4P
I won't spoil the ending

And I suppose it's too late for a Rule 9 violation to do so.

2009-01-01 15:56:10
2.   Marty
I think the ending to the world series game is more in doubt than the Rose Bowl.
2009-01-01 16:04:12
3.   Tripon
An industry source tells Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald that right-handed reliever Scott Proctor has agreed to a one-year deal with the Marlins.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/baseball/story/834264.html

2009-01-01 16:04:59
4.   tjdub
First game thread of the New Year.
2009-01-01 16:05:14
5.   ToyCannon
Jon - thanks for the heads up and channel locater. This is better then caring if USC can score 60 points.
2009-01-01 16:07:58
6.   PalmdaleSteve1
How about all Dish Network subscribers drop a line to Dish about why they are not carrying MLB Network.

I have, and would like to request all Dish/DT readers to also send them your thoughts. Might I suggest terms like, "Thinking about changing to Direct TV...because you guys are idiots"

2009-01-01 16:11:37
7.   Big Game
maybe I haven't subscribed to the correct tier, but I'm not getting the MLB network on time warner. i'll have to call tomorrow to straighten this injustice out.
2009-01-01 16:15:36
8.   ToyCannon
Flinching Vinny.

I think that is the first time I've ever seen Billy Martin playing baseball. What an awesome way to start out the new year. Wasting time on baseball in a whole new way.

2009-01-01 16:16:40
9.   das411
Going for it on fourth and one with a 24 point lead, you stay classy USC!
2009-01-01 16:17:59
10.   Icaros
Pee Wee Reese goes back on popups well.
2009-01-01 16:18:46
11.   Indiana Jon
6 They are probably not going to care. They dropped MLB Extra Innings a couple years ago because they didn't want to be forced to carry the MLB Network, and although many subscribers complained at the time, Dish didn't change. I dropped them at the time and switched to DirecTV, because I had to have the Dodgers every night. I actually find DirecTV to be a superior service, escpecially for HD content.
2009-01-01 16:19:36
12.   dzzrtRatt
Is your MLB network feed suddenly breaking up? Or is this just a Cox Cable thing?

Ironic that this would be happening during a kinescope broadcast.

2009-01-01 16:20:26
13.   Big Game
12 Im getting nothing at all on TWC in Los Angeles
2009-01-01 16:20:37
14.   Indiana Jon
8 I had the same thoughts about Billy when they called his name going back on that popup. What a fun and interesting manager he was.
2009-01-01 16:29:08
15.   Indiana Jon
For me, Vin Scully and Mel Allen are the most recognizable baseball voices of my lifetime. Scully, of course, as the announcer for the Dogers. Allen, not for his time with the Yankees, but for This Week in Baseball, my favorite show as a kid, barely beating out The Dukes of Hazzard and the A Team.
2009-01-01 16:32:48
16.   Indiana Jon
These commercials are great too.
2009-01-01 16:36:26
17.   PalmdaleSteve1
11 Hmmm I get Dodgers every night they play on Dish, but KCAL is not HD on Dish...Bummer.

The picture quality on my HD feed on a Vizio Plasma is great...

As to not caring, perhaps you are right, but letter writing, or email writing is cheap and is some what of a pressure campaign. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't but takes only a few minutes to reach out and annoy them with comments.

2009-01-01 16:37:41
18.   Linkmeister
I'll be darned; we get it out here.
2009-01-01 16:44:02
19.   Marty
Taylor Mays just moved up the draft chart.
2009-01-01 16:46:07
20.   dzzrtRatt
Was this overshift typical for teams facing Mantle batting lefthanded?
2009-01-01 16:51:06
21.   Jon Weisman
Looked foul to me, Mick.
2009-01-01 16:52:50
22.   tjdub
The ump seems to have a wide strike zone. That may come back to bite us later.
2009-01-01 16:54:25
23.   ToyCannon
So Gillette sponsored the whole World Series. Jackie playing 3rd base. Duke almost goes deep. Campy walking. OMG I feel like a 10 year old.
2009-01-01 16:58:28
24.   tjdub
Flipped back to SC just in time. Sanchez is working on his 2009 Heisman campaign.
2009-01-01 17:01:10
25.   Kevin Lewis
Sanchez has been excellent. The over has been covered!

Random question: I have used a family members GPS all this break, and I am really impressed. Does anyone have experience with Magellan or Garmin? Which would you recommend?

2009-01-01 17:09:47
26.   Jon Weisman
25 - We've had Garmin for a year.

Vin's on!

2009-01-01 17:10:38
27.   Bob Hendley
My HS, Pt. Loma in SD produced both Larsen and Wells. The rest of us are just perfect idiots.
2009-01-01 17:13:45
28.   Marty
It is kind of amazing to think that Vin announced that game 52 years ago. And he was already a five or six year veteran by then.
2009-01-01 17:13:51
29.   dzzrtRatt
Scully had this way of slipping into Sonorous Announcer voice back then. Someone must have been coaching him, telling him his natural voice was too thin. Then sometimes he seems to forget about this advice and talks like himself, and it sounds so much better when he does.
2009-01-01 17:15:26
30.   tjdub
"Pee Wee Reese playing catch with himself"

Vin Scully, great from the start.

2009-01-01 17:20:22
31.   underdog
Brent Musberger and Cloris Leachman, two names I never thought I'd hear put together in the same sentence.
2009-01-01 17:22:28
32.   D4P
If Penn St. kicks a field goal and there's no more scoring, USC will beat Penn St. by the same score (38-20) that Penn St. beat Oregon in 1995.

And vengeance will be complete.

2009-01-01 17:24:36
33.   larry slimfast
In case anyone is interested...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380059916525

lots of these on eBaY

2009-01-01 17:25:29
34.   dzzrtRatt
Casey Stengel! Smooth, Mel, not a bristle.

And here's Vin's face on TV. He does the ad in the Sonorous Voice. Now when he talks, it sounds like he's smiling.

2009-01-01 17:28:14
35.   KG16
16 - are they running old commercials in the game broadcast? They do that on the radio classics channel on Sirius, I love it, especially when you get something that would never happen in this day and age, like, "tell me doctor, what brand of cigarette do you recommend?"
2009-01-01 17:35:38
36.   Indiana Jon
35 Yes, old Gillete razor commercials. Vin even did a quick plug for Gillette himself.

17 I meant no Dodgers broadcasts outside the local area, like here in Indiana, where we only get them with MLB Extra Innings. Also, I didn't mean that your HD picture was bad with Dish, just that DirecTV offers a greater variety of HD channels.

2009-01-01 17:35:51
37.   dzzrtRatt
35 Yes.

Now, they've got Joe E. "No one's perfect" Brown doing an ad for Papermate Pens.

2009-01-01 17:36:55
38.   Jon Weisman
That DP was wild.
2009-01-01 17:38:57
39.   larry slimfast
Pretty much the only thing I don't like about baseball is Bob Costas.
2009-01-01 17:41:44
40.   PalmdaleSteve1
36 Sorry, mistook you for a local, and you are quite right. If you follow a team, then the MLB extra innings package on Direct is the bomb...

On Dish v Direct, Coke v Pepsi, different tastes for different folks.

Still on taste, Sirus has completely ruined MLB on Channel 175. The AM drive time show with Mark Patrick and Buck Martinez an always listen to on the driven in to work, now just want someone to shut Holden K. the heck up.

2009-01-01 17:52:04
41.   ToyCannon
Costas rules. His love of the game has always shown up.
2009-01-01 17:56:38
42.   underdog
Oh no, you do NOT boo Jackie Robinson!
2009-01-01 17:59:55
43.   larry slimfast
0 Update: see 33
2009-01-01 18:05:53
44.   Alex41592
T.J Simers with some real news:

I'm hearing the Dodgers are working on a deal that will allow the team to cut ties with Andruw Jones, save $12 million and send the guy, who couldn't hit a thing, seeking employment elsewhere.

Dodgers' GM Ned Colletti said, "We can't confirm that and right now we don't have a comment," but if completed, it would give the Dodgers an additional $12 million to pursue Manny Ramirez or cover the cost of a new wardrobe for Mrs. Parking Lot this season.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-simers2-2009jan02,0,4119406.column

2009-01-01 18:13:51
45.   MSarg29
40 - I disagree about the MLB Channel 175 AM drive show. While I do sometimes find Holden Kushner annoying sometimes I do like hearing some insights from a former GM like Jim Duquette. Its pretty clear why Duquette was a bad GM after listening to his show though.

They did a good job covering the winter meetings.

With the previous show, Mark Patrick would ask a question and then Buck would just say, "well yes" and then just re-state the question.

Just my taste.

2009-01-01 18:24:54
46.   PalmdaleSteve1
45 OK...matter of taste for sure, but give the show to Billy Ripken and Buck...I like Billy and Buck.

Holden...needs to find a job as a used car salesman (apologies offered to all used car salesman in advance) or maybe a job with loud Billy Mayes from the info commercial biz.

2009-01-01 18:43:26
47.   MSarg29
46 I would like to hear Buck actually express some opinions more often. He seemed to resort to the "He works hard. He's respected line."

I found Buck a better listen when Bowa was on the show too. Bowa would be grumpy and Buck would actually show his sense of humor.

2009-01-01 18:47:19
48.   PalmdaleSteve1
47 I miss Larry Bowa on the show. I look forward and make a special effort to catch Larry's small pre-game segments on KCAL...He's grumpy for sure, but not Jeff Kent grumpy, nobody's that cranky.

..."Get a Life"....LOL

..."Stay Hot"....Larry Bowa style

Priceless

2009-01-01 18:51:59
49.   Jon Weisman
This post has been updated with Vin's call of the final out.
2009-01-01 18:53:10
50.   Gen3Blue
I don't know about Garmin--just make sure we don't get Garland. His peripherals make Looper and others look like Koufax.
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2009-01-01 18:53:57
51.   D4P
the Dodgers are working on a deal that will allow the team to cut ties with Andruw Jones, save $12 million and send the guy, who couldn't hit a thing, seeking employment elsewhere

That's weird. How can they save money without trading him? But why would he be "seeking employment elsewhere" if he were being traded?

2009-01-01 18:55:56
52.   MSarg29
48 Bowa was fun on the show.
2009-01-01 18:56:45
53.   MSarg29
51 Buyout maybe?
2009-01-01 18:58:25
54.   ChicagoDodger
51 I agree it sounds awfully weird. I mean, he wouldn't accept $10 million and then walk would he?

Would the players union allow this?

2009-01-01 19:05:16
55.   Jon Weisman
There's no mystery. It seems Simers is just rehashing the Jones-for-Castillo rumor. The Dodgers would save this year the difference between Jones' and Castillo's salary: $12 million, if this rumor has any merit.
2009-01-01 19:08:08
56.   Marty
By the way, Happy Birthday Underdog. Mine is Tuesday.
2009-01-01 19:12:48
57.   Dodger Tony
I just received a call, I'm not sure if it is a prank as my source is a journalist with good info. He stated that an unnamed radio station in San Francisco has said that the Giants have come to preliminary terms with Manny Ramirez. If this is BS, my deepest apologies. But folks, if true, I am freaking out completely.
2009-01-01 19:14:07
58.   Dodger Tony
Has anyone heard even anything remotely similar to a confirmation of an agreement of any kind, rather than the rumours which are now appearing on KABC and Rob Fukizaki and others?
2009-01-01 19:15:43
59.   Jon Weisman
57 - Wait, it's not just an anonymous source, but an anonymous station? Did they cloak their number on the dial? :)
2009-01-01 19:16:42
60.   ChicagoDodger
55 Can't be Jon. Jones makes $22.1 million in 2009 and Castillo makes $6 million. That's a difference of $16 million not $12 million. Or did I miss something?
2009-01-01 19:16:51
61.   Tripon
I just spoke with Simers, who tells me that it would be an agreement with Jones' agent, Scott Boras. Jones' 2009 salary "would be reduced to make him attractive" to possible suitors in a trade. And the deal would essentially free up money on the Dodgers' side that would head towards Ramirez, another Boras client.

Sounds like deferred money to me. Should be able to sidestep the union with this, and the prospects of the Dodgers paying a million per year for the next ten years makes me laugh for some reason.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

2009-01-01 19:16:58
62.   Dodger Tony
OH Jon, Your cool attitude gives me pause, and that refreshes. I can wait a few hours to take my Atavan.
2009-01-01 19:17:45
63.   MSarg29
55 from mlbtraderumors.com

I just spoke with Simers, who tells me that it would be an agreement with Jones' agent, Scott Boras. Jones' 2009 salary "would be reduced to make him attractive" to possible suitors in a trade. And the deal would essentially free up money on the Dodgers' side that would head towards Ramirez, another Boras client. But it's still unclear why Jones would want to take the paycut. Is Boras going to pay the man out of his own pocket? This kind of dealing is unheard of in the sports world, but you can never doubt the almighty Scott Boras.

2009-01-01 19:18:46
64.   ChicagoDodger
60 Also, MLB Traderumors says that Jones 2009 salary would be reduced to make him more attractive in a trade.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

2009-01-01 19:20:51
65.   Jon Weisman
60 - Jones has $22.1 million remaining on his contract, but it doesn't all get paid this year. Five million, I think, gets paid in 2010.
2009-01-01 19:21:37
66.   Jon Weisman
61, 63, 64 - Fine, okay, whatever.
2009-01-01 19:26:39
67.   ChicagoDodger
65 You were correct.

Jones gets $2.1 million of his signing bonus in 2009 and $15 million in salary. The remaining signing bonus of $5 million is due in 2010.

2009-01-01 19:28:49
68.   Marty
I heard a rumor that Al Neri is taking Jones fishing out on Lake Tahoe.
2009-01-01 19:39:19
69.   JoeyP
Dealing Jones & signing Manny is too good to be true.

It'd be Kwame for Gasol all over again.

2009-01-01 19:45:02
70.   CajunDodger
Who woulda ever thunk when we signed Jones that we would have to consider rengotiating his contract so that we could somehow trade/non-tender him?
2009-01-01 19:54:56
71.   ChicagoDodger
Gurnick is now confirming the story that a rework of the contract is in the works:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090101&content_id=3731327&vkey=news_la&fext=.jsp&c_id=la&partnerId=rss_la

2009-01-01 19:57:20
72.   CajunDodger
66
Dodgers.com has got it noow giving a few more realistic and specific details. It looks like it might be spreading the money out or actually giving him and extension and spacing the money out.

Looks like Mr. Boras will be doing everything he can to drive a backhoe through the loopholes he can find in the collective bargaining agreement.

2009-01-01 19:58:21
73.   Jon Weisman
71 - This makes more sense. It's not about reducing salary - just spreading it over more years.
2009-01-01 20:04:06
74.   PalmdaleSteve1
Who would be dumb enough to sign Jones after his lousy year in LA, and his just as lousy time down in Winter ball?

Some sort of deal to "Just go away" Jones would be all that can be in work, Union be darned.

2009-01-01 20:04:47
75.   Harold M Johnson
73 + interest, so Andruw comes out ahead, pretty much. Give him a new start, I doubt it will work elsewhere but who knows.

As for the perfect game, I watched it as well and loved. MLB network is great for starting this way.

2009-01-01 20:08:53
76.   ChicagoDodger
73 It's not about reducing salary - just spreading it over more years.

True, but it does have the effect of reducing "2009" salary, no?

That was the original rumor. Not necessarily reducing salary overall, just in 2009.

2009-01-01 20:19:38
77.   Jon Weisman
Yep.
2009-01-01 20:33:03
78.   Tripon
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=22&entry_id=34113

Giants beats writer says that the Giants chasing after Manny is hogwash.

2009-01-01 21:15:15
79.   Daniel Zappala
RIP, Donald Westlake. I've read a bunch of his stuff -- love his sense of humor.
2009-01-01 21:47:58
80.   Bob Timmermann
The MLB Network is nothing more the imagination of Tommy Westphall.
2009-01-01 21:56:18
81.   fordprefect
80
Preposition trouble?
2009-01-01 21:59:29
82.   bhsportsguy
Does anyone else have trouble grilling chicken? I get nothing but almost black chicken. The meat is fine but I can't stop the flare ups.
2009-01-01 22:01:19
83.   regfairfield
Two words: George Foreman.
2009-01-01 22:01:50
84.   Bob Timmermann
I won't use prepositions correctly until someone gives me proof that the MLB Network exists.
2009-01-01 22:27:15
85.   dzzrtRatt
84 Where do you think Jon got that picture of Vinny? That's an image from the kinescope.
2009-01-01 22:29:08
86.   Bob Timmermann
85
Photoshop.
2009-01-01 22:35:05
87.   underdog
Thanks Marty! Happy pre-birthday to you, in case I forget, which I won't. Probably. I'm more senile now than I was a day ago.

Btw, I heard a rumor from this guy at the grocery store down the street who overheard a conversation on a bus between driver and passenger after the driver had heard something on AM radio from a host who overheard his cab driver say he thought he saw Manny Ramirez in the men's room of a diner in Oakland. So he's definitely gonna be an A. Bank on it. Probably.

Happy New Year!

2009-01-01 22:35:14
88.   dzzrtRatt
I knew this, but I'm still amazed by the fact that Larsen's was the first perfect game in 34 years. He tells Costas that he'd never heard the term until after he pitched one.

And there hasn't been a no-hitter in any post-season game since, right?

That game was truly the outlier of all time. Outliers resemble unicorns, and that's a unicorn.

2009-01-01 22:47:38
89.   bhsportsguy
If not for some Brooklyn fan recording Hodges on the radio, we would never be bothered by "The Giants Win Pennant."
2009-01-01 23:01:34
90.   bhsportsguy
I'm halfway on my recreational betting but Eric Stephen, USC's long snapper is on my list.
2009-01-01 23:19:18
91.   MC Safety
bhsportsguy,

I take it you have a propane grill? One word. Charcoal.

2009-01-01 23:29:02
92.   bhsportsguy
91 That's what I'm thinking, indirect heat and charcoal control.
2009-01-01 23:33:41
93.   Harold M Johnson
79 Huge Westlake fan. Help I am Being Held Prisoner is one that comes to mind right away.
2009-01-01 23:47:20
94.   MC Safety
Exactly. I specialize in thighs. Maybe I'll bust em out for the next gathering.
2009-01-02 00:12:57
95.   I Love LA
Marc Stein reported that once Stephon Marbury is bought out he is expected to join Celtics per ESPN News.
2009-01-02 00:40:37
96.   bhsportsguy
7 Hall of Famers participated in the perfect game, 3 others participated in the 1956 World Series. Sandy Koufax while on the Dodgers in 1955 and 1956, did not pitch in a post-season game until the 1959 World Series.
2009-01-02 01:11:23
97.   bhsportsguy
"Thank you Mel and hi everybody."
2009-01-02 01:38:48
98.   bhsportsguy
3-2-5-2-5
2009-01-02 05:40:35
99.   Bluebleeder87
The O's sign Hendy [ http://tinyurl.com/8qrsrs ]
2009-01-02 05:41:33
100.   D4P
#7 Texas Tech, 11-1 on the season, is stuck playing #25 Mississippi (8-4) in the Cotton Bowl while #10 The Ohio State (10-2) gets to play #3 Texas (11-1) in the Fiesta Bowl. Plus, Texas Tech beat Texas.
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2009-01-02 06:20:38
101.   Marty
I use a mustard/oil based marinade for grilled chicken that causes flare-ups like wild on my gas grill. Now I like a little blackened skin, but I can keep it controllable by searing the chicken on the bottom level then moving them up to the second level. I also turn the gas down to almost zero and let the flare ups do the cooking.
2009-01-02 07:49:45
104.   popup
Thanks for the transcript Jon. I don't have access to the MLB Network. I would imagine Vin has seen more no-hitters/perfect games than anyone.

The Dodgers won game 6, 1-0 in 10 innings and then were shutout in game 7. The 56 Dodgers were a preview to the 66 Dodgers.

Stan from Tacoma

2009-01-02 08:10:58
105.   Bob Timmermann
The MLB Network is nothing more than a scary bedtime story that parents tell their children in order to keep them from growing up to be Matt Vasgersian.
2009-01-02 08:21:47
106.   kinbote
82 1. Build a fire with all the coals on one side.
2. When ready, spend about 5-10 minutes getting good color on the chicken by putting it directly on the hot side. Turn actively to prevent burning.
3. When you're happy with the look of the chicken, move it to the indirect side, close the lid, and cook for approximately 45 minutes (I'm assuming assorted chicken parts here).
4. Check midway through (if not more) and turn the chicken if needed. The whole point of this method is that you sear it and then bake it.

If you're using a wet marinade, the chicken stays so moist that it's very hard to overcook it. If the Dodgers are playing, I recommend going outside during your least favorite player's at-bat.

2009-01-02 08:23:36
107.   kinbote
105 It's January 2nd. Aren't you concerned about the Washington Nationals' middle relief?
2009-01-02 08:26:01
108.   Bob Timmermann
107
I object to a company that I pay money to lying to me about when a service is going to be available.
2009-01-02 08:28:38
110.   Daniel Zappala
106 Excellent advice.

108 Bob, perhaps you should start firemycablecompany.com and embarrass them into submission.

2009-01-02 08:32:21
111.   Bob Timmermann
110
I've already blogged about it on the Griddle and today I will follow with the most powerful weapon in my arsenal: a sternly worded e-mail to the Customer Service Department of Time Warner.

That will have them quaking in their boots.

2009-01-02 08:34:34
112.   delias man
111 I feel your pain. You really missed out on those Gillette commercials last night. I could watch Duke, Roy, and Newcombe stand there and shave all night long. BTW, I have TW.
2009-01-02 08:59:23
115.   Jon Weisman
114 et al: Not everyone here is of a certain age.
2009-01-02 09:06:49
116.   Bluebleeder87
I'm not in the "know" on why cable companies don't carry certain programming but it seems a little weird why TW (southerun California at least) & Dish aren't carring MLB Network. I'm sure there is more to it right?
2009-01-02 09:08:28
117.   Bluebleeder87
113 114

looks like I missed a "tasty treat"

figures.

2009-01-02 09:11:43
118.   silverwidow
116 DISH doesn't carry it because they don't have the "Extra Innings" package.

My advice: Switch to DirecTV.

2009-01-02 09:18:32
119.   das411
88 - One of the Bobby Joneses one-hit the Giants back in 2000, in a game that I found much more watchable than the rest of my family did, and according to Retrosheet Kenny Rogers two-hit Oakland in the 2006 ALCS, but those are the only ones I can remember..anyone know how to crank up BB-ref to look for that?
2009-01-02 09:23:04
120.   das411
Found another one! Brandon Backe (who knew?) and pre-Pujols Lidge combined to one-hit the Cardinals in Game 5 of the 2004 NLCS, one of the most underrated postseason series of the past...decade:

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/2004/B10180HOU2004.htm

2009-01-02 09:29:20
121.   Disabled List
119 I remember Tom Glavine threw a one-hitter against Manny Ramirez and the Indians in the clinching game of the 1995 World Series.
2009-01-02 09:34:13
122.   Andrew Shimmin
119- http://tinyurl.com/7n2ghf
2009-01-02 09:36:54
123.   Andrew Shimmin
Oh. I misunderstood what you wanted. Sorry.
2009-01-02 09:43:08
124.   Michael Green
Since I saw a reference earlier ...

The plate umpire was Babe Pinelli. He retired after the Series. It was his last game behind the plate after 22 years in which he apparently never missed a game. He also had been a major league baseball player. And Dale Mitchell went to his grave saying the last pitch was high and outside. Well, it was. But when it's 2-2 in a perfect game and the pitch is close enough to swing at, it's a strike.

I did notice Young Scully's greater resonance in those days. He also was a couple of months shy of his 29th birthday, doing his third World Series next to one of the biggest names of his time, so I suspect he'd take it down an octave.

2009-01-02 09:55:50
125.   Disabled List
From KPIX in San Francisco:

>The San Francisco Giants are pursuing free-agent slugger Manny Ramirez and have offered him a four-year deal, a well-connected source told CBS 5.

>Financial terms of the contract offer were not immediately known. The deal was said by the source to contain incentives for the third year of the contract and a club option for the fourth.

2009-01-02 09:57:53
126.   Disabled List
125 However, from the same article:

>The chances of the Giants signing Ramirez, a 36-year-old left fielder, were unclear. A team spokesperson told CBS 5, "it's not happening."

2009-01-02 10:06:52
127.   MyTummyHurts
what are the chances the boys in blue sign ManRam from 1-10:

I say 6. You say?

2009-01-02 10:07:28
128.   D4P
I would have to think that Ned could call Sabean and get a straight answer as to whether or not the Giants are pursuing Manny, though maybe they have an agreement that they won't ask each other those kinds of questions.
2009-01-02 10:08:51
129.   Howard Fox
128 I am not familiar with the rules, but that, to me, strikes of collusion
2009-01-02 10:12:22
130.   mwhite06
129 Perhaps it would be considered collusion, but if Sabean held a press conference and publicly stated they are not interested in Manny (like the Angels did), then I don't think it would be considered collusion. Therefore would we consider the defining characteristic of collusion as whether or not the conversation was in public or private?
2009-01-02 10:21:34
131.   scareduck
101 - one thing you can do is to put aluminum foil under the bird. No drips, although you do end up with quite a bit more oil on the surface. Whether this is a good thing is up to the eater.
2009-01-02 10:47:45
132.   Andrew Shimmin
Why would Sabean want to help keep Manny's price low?
2009-01-02 10:49:53
133.   D4P
132
The less team pay,
The worse Manny play.
2009-01-02 10:53:35
134.   MollyKnight
Does anybody here happen to know of any superstitious Ravens, Colts, or Chargers fans I could write about? Like, people who on game days wear the same shirt and eat the same food and wake up at the same time?
2009-01-02 11:03:26
135.   Tripon
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8397

BP says that you should draft Kuroda in your fantasy league, but that part is behind the iron wall.

2009-01-02 11:15:21
136.   regfairfield
[133 Manny Ramirez has had like five bad months in his whole career.
2009-01-02 11:30:38
137.   Bluebleeder87
134 I wouldn't know Molly Knight but if I did I'd tell you.
2009-01-02 11:31:42
138.   Tripon
136 He also took the Sept. off for 2005 and 2006 when the Red Sox was out of it. If the Dodgers aren't going anyway, we're not going to see productive Manny, we're going to see DL Manny.
2009-01-02 11:38:15
139.   Tripon
http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hot_stove/posts/37261

Jon Heyman says he 'confirmed' that the Giants are in the Manny sweepstakes, but doesn't even list his own source.

2009-01-02 11:48:16
140.   MC Safety
where are all these manny haters coming from? They gotta be undercover midget fans.
2009-01-02 11:50:25
141.   D4P
I don't claim to know whether the Giants are interested in Manny or not, but it would be kinda "funny" if the Dodgers were unwilling to add a 3rd/4th year to snatch Manny away from the Giants a few years after being willing to add a 5th year to snatch Pierre away.
2009-01-02 11:52:22
142.   Tripon
141 Its funny that Ned Coletti didn't seem to try to move Juan Pierre, or Andruw Jones until recently so the Dodgers could free up money to sign Manny.
2009-01-02 12:10:46
143.   Bluebleeder87
Some Thoughts on the Dodgers from foxsports.com [ http://tinyurl.com/8y6kgt ]
2009-01-02 12:11:28
144.   Hollywood Joe
"didn't seem to try to move"

I wish we had a "Ned cam" so that we could end this nearly constant speculation on what either Ned (as in this case) or the McCourts (as in other cases) are seemingly trying to do.

If I were Ned I would do anything I could to get rid of either, with a strong preference to Jones, while at the same time keeping it as low key as possible to retain any scraps of leverage or dignity I could find lying around. Knowing full well that while there might not be much dignity to be recovered from any outcome with these two mistakes, I could full well certainly lose more face around them if I paraded my desire to be rid of them in the media every 5 minutes

I care far less about what the Dodgers are "seemingly trying to do" and far more about what gets done.

Intentions without outcomes are meaningless. I reserve my judgement on the outcome, and if that fails I care little what someone was hoping, trying, or whatever other word we come up with to describe well-intentioned failure to do

2009-01-02 12:15:16
145.   Hollywood Joe
...and Chicken or anything else on a Gas grill

If you have a 3 burner grill - turn both the left and right burners to high and keep the middle burner off. Sear Chicken turning frequently to prevent flare-ups on either of the high burners until you get skin texture/finish to desired carmelization. Move Chicken to middle, close lid, cook to 160 degrees or so. Rest for 10 minutes and enjoy

Best whole chicken secret. Salt rub as a means of brining (without the messy liquid) 36 hours or so before. Use "Beer Can Chicken technique to cook. Unreal how good and moist this chicken is

2009-01-02 12:18:40
146.   scareduck
144 - I wish we had a "Ned cam" so that we could end this nearly constant speculation on what either Ned (as in this case) or the McCourts (as in other cases) are seemingly trying to do.

The Giants would be the first team to buy the feed, and pay extra so other teams in the division don't know about it.

2009-01-02 12:22:25
147.   D4P
The Giants would be the first team to buy the feed

Nah.

Sabean : Ned :: M : James Bond

2009-01-02 12:23:06
148.   Hollywood Joe
146

I would pay for it and use it as a way to lose weight. Everytime I was hungry I would tune in and lose my appetite

...but on second thought, it would also likely make me immediately start drinking.

hmmmmm

2009-01-02 12:27:20
149.   JoeyP
Has Barry Bonds played his last game in the majors?

I'm surprised the various news agencies actually report on his injuries, since he's no longer an active player and appears to have no one pursuing his services.

2009-01-02 12:29:34
150.   KG16
130 - collusion implies that there is an agreement that either the public or the victim were unaware of that prevented the victim from achieving some certain goal. That's not a text book legal definition, but it's pretty close. There is also an issue of intent and malice.

Calling another GM and asking if they are trying to sign a free agent is very close to collusion, but again, it comes down to intent and malice - there must be an agreement to do harm to another, or prevent that other person from doing some act. Calling a GM and saying, "we're only offering Player A 5 years and 10 million dollars and we don't think you should offer any more than that either" would absolutely be collusion.

If Colletti were to call Sabean and ask if the Giants really were going after Manny, and the conversation ended at an answer of yes or no, I don't think you've got collusion. If Colletti were to call and ask Sabean to not make an offer, that would be collusion, or at least an attempt at collusion.

Ultimately, from a legal perspective, I don't think you get to collusion (or civil conspiracy) by making a phone call. But I don't know if the CBA has special rules that change the general principles.

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2009-01-02 12:33:33
151.   Alex41592
"The Los Angeles Dodgers and Andruw Jones have agreed to rework his contract to save the team $12 million off its 2009 payroll, SI.com has learned. The deal likely will lead to Jones playing elsewhere next year."

http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hot_stove/posts/37244

2009-01-02 12:45:36
152.   JoeyP
Restructuring happens all the time in the NFL. Not sure its legal or allowable in the MLB though.
2009-01-02 12:48:36
153.   Hollywood Joe
Last year I was wrong about Andrew Jones. I loved the signing. I though young hitter / off year, he will be great for the Dodgers and with 2 years he is relatively no risk. Oh boy, surprising how wrong you can be.

If he has played his last inning as a Dodger I will be pleased.

As small as this makes me sound, I hope the man is washed up. I would not be made happy by a career renaissance. I wish him a long, happy, healthy life filled with great success....just outside of major league baseball please. Go away Andruw, make me forget you ever existed at all

2009-01-02 12:53:56
154.   Tripon
2:40pm: MLB.com's Chris Haft splashes some cold water on the KPIX-TV rumor. His sources say recent reports linking the Giants to Manny are overblown. The Dodgers may be the only truly interested team currently. Haft says the Giants are looking to add a corner infield bat instead (they've been linked to Edwin Encarnacion and Jorge Cantu in the past, among others).

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

2009-01-02 13:02:35
155.   ToyCannon
A Jones did not have to do this. He could have sat on his butt and collected his 22 Million over the next two years. By restructuring his deal he is helping the Dodgers move him so he can play everyday. This is amazing as it is the 1st time I can remember a MLBP doing such a thing. This is Boras doing what he can to make his unhappy client happy while at the same time helping another one of his clients get more money. I'm impressed so far with the limited knowledge I have of the deal so far.
2009-01-02 13:03:40
156.   das411
149 , can we hold off on asking about Bonds until we get a definitive answer as to whether or not Imminent HoFer Rickey Henderson has played his last game?
2009-01-02 13:05:04
157.   Mike Scioscias tragic illness
155
I doubt he's just doing this out of the goodness of his heart. He gets out of a situation in which he's unhappy and where he has a 0.0% of turning his career around, and will have the chance to go back to Atlanta(his comfort zone) or a lesser team that will allow him to get some more playing time than we would. Plus, though the details remain to be seen, he'll probably accrue some long-term interest off this from LA that will increase the # somewhat.
2009-01-02 13:12:14
158.   Tripon
Our favorite Spanish site that was claiming that the Yankees were going to sign Manny was 'imminent' is now claiming that the money the Dodgers are saving on Andruw Jones is definitively will be used to sign Manny. Yay for Impactivo Deportivo! I posted the translation here instead of the original Spanish text.

The Dodgers are in talks to renegotiate the contract of outfielder Andruw Jones curazoleño, with the goal of removing him from roster and save money that can be used to try to sign Dominican Manny Ramírez.

http://www.impactodeportivo.com.do/?op=displaystory&story_id=4925&format=html

2009-01-02 13:12:47
159.   D4P
I think the following statement is probably true.

In order for Andruw Jones (and his agent) to secure another (decent) contract, it will be necessary though not sufficient for him to play in 2009.

He knows he's not gonna get paid much after 2009 if he sits on the Dodgers bench all season.

2009-01-02 13:13:37
160.   D4P
158
Is "curazoleño" Spanish for "blimp"...?
2009-01-02 13:15:38
161.   Hollywood Joe
159

Yep

2009-01-02 13:15:38
162.   Hollywood Joe
159

Yep

2009-01-02 13:16:02
163.   Bob Timmermann
"curazoleño" = person from Curacao
2009-01-02 13:20:56
164.   Bluebleeder87
153

Poor Jones, we're suppose to be happy go lucky fans but Jones got the wrath of a thousand suns from us...

2009-01-02 13:21:17
165.   Tripon
These Lakers mailbags make Mike Bresnahan awfully snarky.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-spw-lakersqa3-2009jan03,0,3865430.story

2009-01-02 13:23:07
166.   Indiana Jon
101 There have been a few good suggestions here, but I can help you in one easy step. Buy a Weber. It's amazing how evenly they cook and how few flare ups you get. It was my best purchase of 2008 and well worth the extra money, however this MacBook is a close second and may be gaining on the Weber as I actually learn how to use it.
2009-01-02 13:33:03
167.   Hollywood Joe
164

Hell hath no fury like a Dodger Thoughts reader scorned

he seemed to care too little (even if it was a front to protect his fragile sense of self)

he was far too fat (no denying that)which made us all assume sloth

and he was much worse than I have even seen a professional baseball player be. He was the worst player I can ever remember. I doubt we will ever see someone fall so quickly, so young, without a major catastrophic injury to blame. It just doesn't happen...

So yeah, we can be real jerks for laid back fans

2009-01-02 13:34:32
168.   Tripon
http://blogs.pe.com/prosports/mlb/dodgers/

The Dodgers signed veteran right-hander Claudio Vargas to a non-guaranteed major league contract.

Makes more sense.

2009-01-02 13:36:30
169.   Tripon
I can offer this educated guess on what it actually might take to get Ramirez to San Francisco. It has been reported widely that the Dodgers had on the table and then pulled a two-year, $45 million offer to Ramirez. Now I'm told that the Dodgers alternatively offered Ramirez $60 million over three years, also ignored, also pulled off the table.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=22&entry_id=34133

2009-01-02 13:36:40
170.   ToyCannon
157
I didn't mean to intimate that Jones did this out of the goodness of his heart. I was impressed with Boras and how he may have managed to make both his clients happy given the situation.
2009-01-02 13:41:39
171.   Mike Scioscias tragic illness
170 I agree. He's pure evil, but when he's not bathing in the blood of puppies, he's incredibly good at his job. I hate him, but you have to respect him.
2009-01-02 13:43:03
172.   Quik
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/01/dodgers-working.html

Heyman has it as done deal.

2009-01-02 13:43:45
173.   Quik
151 Beat me to it. Oops.
2009-01-02 14:05:05
174.   oshea2002
Big 12 = smoke and mirrors. The Pac 10 really needs to begin scheduling the way they did this year.
2009-01-02 14:05:09
175.   Bluebleeder87
There has to be something in it for Boros...
2009-01-02 14:08:00
176.   D4P
There has to be something in it for Boros

In theory, this scheme increases Jones's chances of getting another contract after 2009.

2009-01-02 14:08:36
177.   Tripon
Jones probably told Boras to get him out of Los Angeles any way he could, and Manny probably told Boras to speed up his negotiations for him.

Personally, I think Boras is working overtime because his clients are antzy, not because he wants to.

2009-01-02 14:17:27
178.   oshea2002
176 - I tend to agree. He gets a minor league deal for the league minimum in 2010 if he sits on the pine in LA for 2009.
2009-01-02 14:38:39
179.   Lexinthedena
My predictions.

Dodgers sign Manny to a 2 year 50 million dollar deal.

Giants sign Abreu, trade Randy Winn to the Mets.

That's all I got for now.

2009-01-02 14:46:13
180.   Bob Timmermann
I guess Mike Leach isn't as smart anymore.
2009-01-02 14:53:23
181.   oshea2002
180 - gets tougher when you don't have Big 12 D's to score 50 on.
2009-01-02 14:58:12
182.   underdog
I'm hopeful that my team doesn't draft any members of the Texas Tech defense in the next NFL draft.
2009-01-02 15:00:30
183.   Gen3Blue
Deciding to check in on this MLB network not proved a blessing. So far I've seen the "shot heard around the world", Don Larsen's '56 perfect world series game against the Dodgers. Nolan Ryan no hitting the Dodgers for a fifth no hitter--surpassing Koufax's record of four, and several more minor insults. I guess a team has to be good to be in position for these traumas.
Ryan ended up with 7---yes 7--no-hitters. But I think Sandy has the best rate per 100 games or whatever.
2009-01-02 15:03:19
184.   Gen3Blue
183-- Never mind here comes '88 and Gibby.
2009-01-02 15:04:23
185.   bhsportsguy
183 Well you get the greatest moment in LA sport's history to lead off the next program.
2009-01-02 15:07:05
186.   bhsportsguy
Reminds me that last year, I thanked Mike Davis for making all this possible.
2009-01-02 15:20:46
187.   caseybarker
Aren't we still paying Tom Goodwin's salary?
2009-01-02 15:56:53
188.   fiddlestick
Former Dodger exec. Derrick Hall has been named the new CEO of the Dbacks. Jeff Moorad has resigned in order to pursue the acquisition of the Padres.
2009-01-02 16:19:18
189.   silverwidow
There's a Brian Roberts-for-Gavin Floyd rumor going around.
2009-01-02 16:28:56
190.   Gen3Blue
Bhguy: I'm intrigued and I can't remember how Mike Davis ties in.
2009-01-02 16:33:39
191.   Gen3Blue
Watching MLB network is a curse. They have definitely convinced me that the D's and Giants are bidding against each other for Manny. So the good news is if SF gets him they will pay more than he's worth. You can guess the bad news.
2009-01-02 16:34:28
192.   Bob Timmermann
I believe watching the MLB Network is akin to watching the movie in "The Ring."
2009-01-02 16:57:37
193.   KG16
190 - Davis drew the walk that made Gibby's home run a game winner.
2009-01-02 16:59:48
194.   bhsportsguy
192 It's the new minotaur.
2009-01-02 17:01:30
195.   Bob Timmermann
194
Gives me something to write about other than dirigibles.
2009-01-02 17:01:50
196.   bhsportsguy
Someone will begin to track how many shows revolve around the Yankees and the Red Sox.

Last night, Larsen's perfecto, tonight its the 2004 World Series.

2009-01-02 17:02:32
197.   Gen3Blue
193 Ahhh! I see said the blind carpenter.

At least it wasn't something as obscure as Jody Reed's

2009-01-02 17:02:49
198.   trainwreck
I can get NFL Network, but I cannot get MLB Network or any of the sports packages.
2009-01-02 17:04:03
199.   Bob Timmermann
Wow, the USC-Oregon game is already over.

Oregon appears to be ... not good.

2009-01-02 17:05:36
200.   Bob Timmermann
198
Enjoy the Draft Combine.
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2009-01-02 17:07:11
201.   Bluebleeder87
193

He was a teammate of Eckersley the previous year. Here are Mike Davis #'s in '87:

AB's - 494
Dingers - 22
BA - .265
obp - 320
ops+ 112

2009-01-02 17:10:33
202.   Bluebleeder87
RIP Jett Travolta
2009-01-02 17:12:01
203.   Gen3Blue
Also, watching this network reminds me of a thought I had quite a while ago. My noble thought was " no matter how pitiful or declining a celebrity I was, they could not pay me enough to participate in a "Viva Viagra" ad!
2009-01-02 17:14:13
204.   KG16
201 - I still want to know the real story behind the backdoor slider scouting report. Eck says that he hadn't gone 3-2 to any left hander all season in '88. The scouting report says that it was his go to pitch in that spot.
2009-01-02 17:18:45
205.   Bluebleeder87
204

From what I've heard he made that same exact pitch to Roberto Alomar during a playoff game(that year or the previous) if I remember correctly. I could be wrong though, but from what I remember that's part of the story...

2009-01-02 17:21:04
206.   Gen3Blue
204,205 Baseball is still a place where you don't always want to let facts get in the way of a good story.
2009-01-02 17:24:04
207.   bhsportsguy
204 That story was repeated again and again at the '80s luncheon I attended last year. Its not quite the 1932 Called Shot but I think its one of those things that no one is ever going to confirm from the A's side.
2009-01-02 17:27:31
208.   dzzrtRatt
158 Well, there's another locker room clipping to fire up the classic Curacao/Dominican Republic rivalry.
2009-01-02 17:30:30
209.   Bluebleeder87
206

matter of opinion. Kind of like finding out Joe D was a jerk. Do I wanna know he was a jerk in real life or do I wanna not know?

:o)

2009-01-02 17:30:40
210.   Sam DC
The Vikings can't sell out their playoff game?
2009-01-02 17:31:16
211.   Sam DC
I'm not criticizing, I'm just surprised.
2009-01-02 17:31:35
212.   bhsportsguy
Utah trying to show that they can compete with the SEC.
2009-01-02 17:31:37
213.   Andrew Shimmin
Eckersley went 3-2 to Thad Bosley in August of 1988. BBref doesn't know what sort of pitch he threw to strike him out.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/OAK/OAK198808110.shtml

2009-01-02 17:32:59
214.   Bluebleeder87
208 158

please excuse me for being biased but "Impactivo Deportivo" is a freaking cool name!

2009-01-02 17:34:02
215.   Andrew Shimmin
He went 3-2 to Eddie Murray who was, presumably, batting LH against him.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BAL/BAL198808160.shtml

2009-01-02 17:34:13
216.   Bob Timmermann
210
The Vikings ruined my childhood.

I hope their playoffs are always ruined.

2009-01-02 17:37:27
217.   Marty
If Alabama loses my heart will soar like an eagle.
2009-01-02 17:38:49
218.   Bob Timmermann
217
Marty wants to make the warm and fuzzy Nick Saban cry.
2009-01-02 17:40:34
219.   Marty
I've rooted against Alabama since my dad told me to.
2009-01-02 17:42:54
220.   trainwreck
Well this is a surprising start.
2009-01-02 17:43:39
221.   Bob Timmermann
How can this be? John Parker Wilson has three names! And such nice hair!
2009-01-02 17:45:20
222.   Gagne55
These are some surprising bowl games. The Pac-10 went 5-0 while Ok St. and TTU, unbeaten outside of the Big-12 go down.
2009-01-02 17:46:36
223.   Bluebleeder87
217

that reminds me of a quote my grandsponsor (a navy man) told me when I first met him: "How can you soar with the eagles in the morning when you were flying at night with the owls...

2009-01-02 17:48:08
224.   Bumsrap
Wasn't Pierre the last player the Dodgers and Giants fought over with the Dodgers "winning" when they through in a fifth year.

It now the Giants turn to "win". Manny will have lots of late 30 early 40 company on the Giants.

2009-01-02 17:49:30
225.   Bumsrap
At least Cal Poly had a float in the Rose Parade to humor me during the Bowl season.
2009-01-02 17:51:38
226.   Bluebleeder87
224

don't they have to much "tide in money" with the Zito contract.

i'm in a quoting mood today I guess.

2009-01-02 17:52:33
227.   Sam DC
If only Cyd Charisse had had a daughter and named her Charissa.
2009-01-02 17:53:02
228.   Lexinthedena
Winn RF
Renteria SS
Manny LF
Crede 3B
Sandoval 1B
Rowand CF
Molina C
Burris/Frandsen 2B

ummm....yikes?

2009-01-02 17:55:37
229.   Sam DC
Cyd Charisse (who died this year and is survived by Tony Martin her husband of 60 years!!) (and he was her second husband -- her first was Nico Charisse and that lasted 8 years itself) (imagine, being married 60 years to a gal who kept her first husband's name that whole time) was born Tula Elice Finklea.
2009-01-02 17:55:55
230.   Bumsrap
Am I to understand that by restructuring Jones contract, the Dodgers will be responsible for whatever is deferred and the team Jones is traded to will be responsible for what is not deferred?
2009-01-02 18:04:12
231.   Tripon
Manny Ramirez is a better player than Juan Pierre.
2009-01-02 18:06:06
232.   trainwreck
228
The Giants signed Joe Crede?
2009-01-02 18:06:38
233.   Tripon
232 Giants want to sign Crede.
2009-01-02 18:08:08
234.   Tripon
Things that are going to be funny as heck. Seeing Bengie Molina as a type-A free agent, and having the Royals sign him.
2009-01-02 18:08:32
235.   ChemicalMachine
Oh man, I love the way my Utes have started this game!
2009-01-02 18:10:47
236.   Tripon
FRIDAY, 7:51pm: Ken Gurnick of MLB.com reports that the Major League Player's Association has approved the contract agreement, which will defer Jones' remaining salary. According to an industry source, Jones will either be traded or released before the start of spring training and perhaps sometime this month.

Woooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Celebrations are in order!!!

http://hotstove.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/01/dodgers_jones_reach_agreement.html

2009-01-02 18:12:31
237.   berkowit28
196 The Dodgers have played a part in most of the MLB programs so far (yes, often the losing part). They also have a series of programs on team histories coming up. Yes, the first one is the Red Sox, started today. But the second one is the Dodgers, next Tuesday and Wednesday. And replayed many times. No Yankees in sight as yet.
2009-01-02 18:15:08
238.   Gen3Blue
228 The offense would still be bad ( I wanted to say S or B but not sure its appropriate) and it would set their rebuilding back at least a couple of years.
If they offer 3 or more years---I'm all for it.
2009-01-02 18:24:23
239.   trainwreck
Maybe UCLA should become a Mormon school.
2009-01-02 18:25:36
240.   bhsportsguy
239 Sure, now that the Mike Leach envy has left the building.
2009-01-02 18:28:07
241.   trainwreck
240
I would still gladly take his offense with our recruits.

The defense, not so much.

2009-01-02 18:30:04
242.   bhsportsguy
Its moot, and the constant going back and forth on this topic is something I don't participate in.
2009-01-02 18:30:52
243.   bhsportsguy
242 I mean on BRO.
2009-01-02 18:35:00
244.   trainwreck
243
That stopped awhile ago.

Now the debate seems to be on whether USC deserves any credit for their domination.

2009-01-02 18:38:49
245.   Tripon
What's 'BRO'?
2009-01-02 18:39:57
246.   AKblue
228 Does anyone remember what a big deal Vin made over Pablo Sandoval in a September game against the Gigantes? I'm certainly not questioning the master here, Sandoval looked pretty impressive. The funny thing I remember was that Scully reported Pablo at 5'11" and 185 lbs...then he paused and said "uh, we'll need to check on that". The guy is little 245 lb brickhouse, anybody know where Sabean found him?
2009-01-02 18:43:19
247.   trainwreck
245
A UCLA fan website on Scout.

Bruin Report Online.

2009-01-02 18:44:59
248.   bhsportsguy
245 Bruin Report Online. Scout's UCLA website. Trainwreck and I moonlight there at times.
2009-01-02 18:52:19
249.   oshea2002
Good ole BRO.
2009-01-02 18:53:06
250.   Bob Timmermann
There's an actually Utes fan here. And Daniel Zappala hasn't freaked out. You don't want to see Daniel angry.
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2009-01-02 18:55:56
251.   trainwreck
I post here more in a day than I post on BRO in a month.
2009-01-02 18:58:08
252.   oshea2002
251 - get a premium Bruinblitz account (Rivals) so you can post on the Recruiting board - that thing is hilarious.
2009-01-02 18:58:36
253.   bhsportsguy
251 I probably have posted here more times in one year than I have in over 6 years being a member on BRO.
2009-01-02 18:58:48
254.   MC Safety
Barry Switzer is stupid.
2009-01-02 18:59:24
255.   Bob Timmermann
I thought that any discussion on BRO can be summed up this way:

It's Karl Dorrell's fault.

2009-01-02 19:00:30
256.   bhsportsguy
252 Brian Dohn's blog does a decent job of getting out information on both UCLA football and basketball on a fairly regular basis. If that had existed when I first joined BRO, I don't know if I would have joined.
2009-01-02 19:01:31
257.   trainwreck
255
Actually, BRO was the longest pro-Dorrell message board.
2009-01-02 19:01:41
258.   bhsportsguy
255 Which is really annoying when you are talking about the basketball team.
2009-01-02 19:02:37
259.   bhsportsguy
257 Well it was no Bruinsnation blog.
2009-01-02 19:04:47
260.   oshea2002
The BRO non-premium football board is classic, it's just a flamefest b/t SC and UCLA fans.
2009-01-02 19:06:39
261.   KG16
209 - my favorite Joe DiMaggio story is the one about him going to check Marilyn Monroe out of the mental hospital she checked herself into. The story allegedly goes that he walked in and said "I'm Joe DiMaggio and I'm here for my wife." And then told them that if they didn't bring her to him, he'd tear the place apart brick by brick. And it was a few years after they'd divorced. I don't know if that falls into the "jerk" category of stories, but I've always like it, thought it was noble.
2009-01-02 19:07:14
262.   ChemicalMachine
I'm an actual Utah alum even. I went to high school and college in Salt Lake. I'll trust that Zappala and I will have truce now that the Holy War is over for the year...
2009-01-02 19:07:16
263.   Bob Timmermann
Bruinsnation pretty much portrayed Karl Dorrell as a figure somewhere between Genghis Kahn and Napoleon and Ben Howland as a figure somewhere between Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
2009-01-02 19:07:45
264.   trainwreck
260
I am often amazed how many Premium members bother to read and post on that board.
2009-01-02 19:08:09
265.   bhsportsguy
So it appears that the Hot Stove show advertised at 7 EST/PST is only showing at 7 EST/4 PST.

Before it gets repeated all night.

2009-01-02 19:09:09
266.   KG16
258 - well, in that case, it's Gary Bennett's fault.
2009-01-02 19:09:46
267.   bhsportsguy
264 You have not lived until you are sharing a beer with WestwoodBob, PacifPal and Deja.
2009-01-02 19:10:30
268.   bhsportsguy
266 Shouldn't you be playing poker by now?
2009-01-02 19:10:44
269.   Jon Weisman
NPUT
2009-01-02 19:12:03
270.   scareduck
260 - is any conversation about football liable to do otherwise?
2009-01-02 19:12:40
271.   trainwreck
Of course, nothing beats Dohn's comments section that he decided to shut down tonight after getting tired of all the immature comments and self-promoting.
2009-01-05 11:26:13
272.   bluesman
Hey John,
Happy New Year, I have one of those vest pocket encyclopedia's very cool to see Vinny holding it. It says on the front especially condensed for Gillette.
A friend of mine found it in his fathers old roll top desk. I've never seen one besides mine until now. I wonder how rare it is?

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