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Farewell, Preston Gomez
2009-01-13 20:27
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

The baseball lifer and former Dodger coach passed away today, at age 85. (Times, MLB.com, Press-Enterprise, The Griddle).

Comments
2009-01-13 20:37:52
1.   Eric Stephen
Sad, sad story of the slow demise from the car crash last year.
2009-01-13 20:38:45
2.   Bluebleeder87
RIP
2009-01-13 20:39:32
3.   Eric Stephen
1
I meant to say getting hit by the car. Just awful.
2009-01-13 20:43:25
4.   Bluebleeder87
Interesting story on Wiki about Preston Gomes On two occasions, Gómez pinch-hit for pitchers who had pitched no-hitters through eight innings. He did this on July 21, 1970, with the Padres' Clay Kirby and on September 4, 1974, with the Astros' Don Wilson. Both pitchers were losing their respective games at the time they were pulled. In both cases, the hitting strategy failed, and the games were ultimately lost.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preston_G%C3%B3mez]

2009-01-13 20:50:16
5.   Eric Stephen
4
cough

The Griddle

cough

:)

2009-01-13 21:00:14
6.   Icaros
Vin Scully lovefest on MLBTV right now. Until Barry Larkin ruined it by bringing up Harry Caray and Jack Buck.
2009-01-13 21:02:25
7.   Tripon
Alex Cora is a Met.
2009-01-13 21:14:48
8.   Tripon
In fact, Boras said he considered the Braves' overall situation, including that infield defense, and told Lowe last month that this was a team he should seriously consider if they made a good offer for him, even though Lowe and his new wife were said to prefer one of the big Northeastern cities initially (she's a California native and was a TV news personality out there).

Hah. http://tinyurl.com/8vtznr

2009-01-13 21:19:48
9.   LogikReader
8

What happened to "wanting the intensity of Northeastern baseball" Derek?

2009-01-13 21:21:19
10.   preacherroe
Maybe I'm missing something here, but if Gomez died in 2009 at age 85, how could he have pinch hit in 1970 (age 47?) or 1974 (age 51)?
2009-01-13 21:22:18
11.   preacherroe
Oh wait I guess he was managing those teams. Never mind!
2009-01-13 21:22:58
12.   Eric Stephen
10
The doctor was the patient's mother.

Oh wait, wrong story...Gomez was the manager, and made the choice to pinch hit.

2009-01-13 21:30:13
13.   Tripon
12 Did baseball have strict set rosters at the time? Player managers would make sense otherwise, I guess.
2009-01-13 21:40:49
14.   Tripon
wouldn't make sense.
2009-01-13 21:44:28
15.   underdog
I'm pretty sure "pinch hit for" in that story refers to Gomez the manager choosing to bring in a pinch hitter to bat for the pitcher. Not himself. But you figured that out.
2009-01-13 21:45:44
16.   underdog
Weird, I meant to post that 20 mins ago. Damn browser time-outs!

Hey does anyone have the current Dodger draft count for the first two rounds? 2 2nd rounders now? 1 1st rounder, and no compensation picks. Right?

2009-01-13 21:47:45
17.   Tripon
16 Dodgers currently have their own first rounder, their own 2nd rounder, The Braves 2nd rounder, and a compensation pick between the 1st and 2nd round.
2009-01-13 21:50:34
18.   Eric Stephen
16
The Dodgers pick #17, and the Lowe compensation picks will be:

sandwich: betwen 36 & 45
Braves 2nd rounder: between 49 & 62

http://tinyurl.com/7q5g6c

2009-01-13 21:52:01
19.   underdog
Ah! Okay, thanks, I didn't realize they also got a compensation pick for Lowe as well. Was just counting the 2nd rounder. Nice. Not as good as a 1st rounder, but it's something.
2009-01-13 21:54:26
20.   Eric Stephen
19
Of course, if the Braves sign any more Type A's (pretty unlikely), the 2nd rounder could become a 3rd rounder (or 4th, ...). Most likely that won't happen, but Juan Cruz seems to exist to make me mad. :)
2009-01-13 21:59:31
21.   LoneStar7
Just to go back to those thoughts on the poor analyzation over at NBA TV, which i personally know nothing about, but its hard for me to imagine someone harder to listen to than Jalen Rose.
2009-01-13 22:13:23
22.   Tripon
20 Juan Cruz is a good reliever, but how the heck is he ranked higher than Lowe?
2009-01-13 22:16:13
23.   Jon Weisman
NPUT
2009-01-13 22:19:15
24.   Eric Stephen
22
Tigers Thoughts had an awesome breakdown of all the Elias rankings.

Short answer as to why Cruz > Lowe:

a) Cruz had a lot of Ks (158 last 2 years)
b) Lowe didn't have a ton of wins or Ks

For relievers:

*The stats used for relievers are Total Games (Games Started*2+Games Relieved), Innings Pitched, Wins+Saves, Winning Percentage, ERA, IP/Hits, and Strikeouts. Note that Innings receive just 75% of the weight of the others*

2009-01-13 22:19:59
25.   underdog
22 - Yah, I wondered aloud about that today, too. Don't always get the Elias rankings.

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