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2005-12-16 09:46
by Jon Weisman

Thursday, Ken Arneson at Catfish Stew declared that Milton Bradley puns had reached their peak, and declared there should be no more. The time was right.

Along those lines and around the bend, I'd like to issue my own decree. Signing into a baseball chat with the alias of an actual baseball player, manager or owner and asking a question in the first person, like this:

Brian Sabean (SF): Will I regret signing Matt Morris?

... that joke is played, Jerry. Played.

* * *

Even after his awful 2005 season, Jose Lima was still a wanted man. Some criticized Paul DePodesta for not signing Lima to a contract following his fantastic 2004 playoff performance, right up to the day DePodesta was fired as general manager, ignoring the fact that 1) one could anticipate a decline from 2004 and 2) because of arbitration rules, the Dodgers could not get Lima as inexpensively as other teams.

Well, Lima is still out there - and available at a cheaper rate than 12 months ago. Raul Tavares at Dominican Players reported earlier this week that Lima said the Padres were interested in him. The Padres! Why, they're our rivals!

The clock is ticking on Lima Time, but nothing has been finalized yet. His strikeout to home run ratio in 2005 was only 2.6. So where is that fervent movement now?

(By the way, signing Lima to a $500,000 non-guaranteed, non-roster contract for 2006 isn't the most insane idea in the world. It's mostly a pointless act - he probably wouldn't do much better than the 2005 versions of Scott Erickson or Hideo Nomo - but Lima's a little more promising than those two were. The fact that no one has suggested this only adds to the hypocrisy of how much Lima was used this year as anti-DePo ammunition.)

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2005-12-16 09:48:25
1.   mountainmover
Sign him to a minor league contract. His wife's not as attractive as Mr. Lisa Guerrerro's wife, but that's OK. Mr. Guerrerro can't sing the National Anthem as well as Lima Time.
2005-12-16 09:50:51
2.   Slikk
I'd pay him 500k to sit on the bench and cheer. Seriously, I would.
2005-12-16 09:52:41
3.   Marty
My rational mind says I hope SD signs Lima, since he may be the worst pitcher in baseball. My irrational, paranoid mind says I hope Lima does not go to any team in the west because the only good game Lima pitched last year was against the Dodgers when they were in KC.
2005-12-16 09:58:51
4.   Curtis Lowe
Off Topic-

Has any seen King Kong? If so would you recommend it?

On Topic-

I for one, fully embrace the return of Lima Time. If not for the pitching than for the whacky commercials. However if he goes to San Diego it will be known as Lima outta time. chuckle/sigh.

2005-12-16 10:00:55
5.   Colorado Blue
If he goes to SD the he will pitch 3 gems next year all against the Dodgers. Otherwise, his ERA will be around 8.00.
2005-12-16 10:00:58
6.   Bob Timmermann
Lima might enjoy pitching at PETCO as his flyballs can be tracked down by flychasers Cameron, Giles, and Roberts.

And when the Padres go to Denver, Lima can come down with Tom Candiotti Disease.

2005-12-16 10:09:42
7.   fawnkyj
4-
I saw the king kong movie last nite, it was really, really good. There was corny parts at the very beginning but i attributed to the story being set in the 1940s. After that it takes off and it is a rollercoater ride. Really well done. You get the feeling you used to get when you went to watch a spielberg movie.
2005-12-16 10:11:17
8.   Curtis Lowe
Breaking News:

Tony Batista has signed witht he Twins.
Is'nt that the guy that Sanchez hit in the face with a fastball in 04? If so do we play the Twins in 06? If so, I really enjoy ripping on his batting stance and would like to see Sanchez huck another Fastball at his freakish stance.

2005-12-16 10:13:58
9.   jasonungar05
My debate is which do I see tonight:

King Kong
Syriana
Good Night and Good Luck

2005-12-16 10:15:55
10.   Jon Weisman
By the way, signing Lima to a $500,000 non-roster contract isn't the most insane idea in the world. Probably wouldn't do much better than Erickson or Nomo 2005, but probably a little more promising than those two were. The fact that no one has suggested this only adds to the hypocrisy of how much Lima was used this year as anti-DePo ammunition.
2005-12-16 10:16:35
11.   fawnkyj
9-
I havent seen the other 2 movies yet, but i have heard good things about them. I guess it just depends on what kind of movie you feel like. Drama or Adventure.
2005-12-16 10:16:37
12.   D4P
10
Wife and I watched "A Christmas Story" last night. It's on our annual Christmas movie list. It still cracks me up.

"Fra-gee-lay. It must be Italian!"

2005-12-16 10:23:52
13.   Curtis Lowe
9-Syriana is extremely slow and honestly isnt really good. Sure it is kinda of intriguing but it feels like instead of focusing on one topic and expanding they tried to do too much and in the end I felt like what was the point in all this. A good renter but not worth 10 bucks in the theater.
2005-12-16 10:24:38
14.   Warren
King Kong - Fun, popcorn movie, well made

Syriana - Drags at points, hard to get going, ends strong

Good Night And Good Luck - Has its moments, mostly just good acting, story is secondary

My advice: see Kong, rent the others.

2005-12-16 10:26:54
15.   King of the Hobos
Speaking of NRIs and non-roster sontracts, do the Dodgers have any? I know of 2, Tydus Meadows and Jon Weber. I'm guessing Billingsley will become a NRI as well. We've signed Derek Thompson and Eric Langill, but the former is injured and the latter doesn't deserve an invitation to major league camp (but they could be NRIs, I just haven't heard either way)
2005-12-16 10:33:10
16.   the swordsman
T. Meadows had a good spring last year. He hit a couple moonshots. I wonder why he hasn't gotten a shot. I would rather see him in the line-up that "scrapko"
2005-12-16 10:33:58
17.   jasonungar05
thanks fellas. Great advice.

King Kong is my kind of flick.

My 3 favorite movies

Empire Strikes Back
Raiders of the lost arc
the fellowship of the ring

Jon, you always point out Hypocricy. I aprreciate that. The Lima thing is a prefect example.

2005-12-16 10:38:16
18.   Sospiro0
Sorry, I'm going to have to disagree. Syriana and Good Night and Good Luck were fantastic films. But if those are your favorite movies I would say go with King Kong as its more of the adventure movie you're looking for.
2005-12-16 10:38:51
19.   Marty
12 I've been pronouncing it Fra-gee-lay ever since I first saw that movie about 20 years ago.
2005-12-16 10:40:08
20.   D4P
19
Me too! But I stopped wearing my pink bunny body-pajamas years ago...
2005-12-16 10:42:52
21.   Curtis Lowe
What of David Wells? Why has he suddenly fallen off the radar? David Time? Hells Wells? Invite Lima to spring training and have a rotation of

Penny
Lowe
Wells
Lima
OdP

2005-12-16 10:44:13
22.   Marty
20- I can't fit into mine anymore
2005-12-16 10:44:24
23.   Curtis Lowe
If our pitching roster was made up of all #2 starters would our rotation be sh!#@y?
2005-12-16 10:46:00
24.   DaveP
I would rather have lemon juice squeezed in both eyes than see Lima in the Dodger rotation. The best thing that could happen is Lima signing with a team in the NL West and put into their rotation.
2005-12-16 10:47:36
25.   blue22
21 - Inviting Lima to ST is fine, however I'm not going to include him on any predicted rotations. He'd be the definition of a "nice surprise".

This is the rotation I'm rooting for:

Penny
Lowe
OPerez
Tomko
EJackson

with Houlton and Billingsley starting in the minors.

2005-12-16 10:48:32
26.   molokai
I know this has been done over and over but as I was reading the BP rundown on the Cubs and how they missed out on Milton it left me wondering. Dusty Baker had a face to face with Milton. Evidently he wasn't impressed enough to convince Hendry he was worth more then a AA tweener prospect. I don't think anyone has brought that up before.

I don't have the disdain that many here seem to have for Lima. He and Beltre were the highlights of that great 2004 season. Whatever pixie dust was sprinkled on him worked and I'll always remember him for some great times. The playoff game was the best game I've been to at Dodger stadium. He was our guy from the time he started warming up and he finished his job in style with the crowd chanting his name from beginning to end. You had to be there to appreciate the game. Even during the season he kept amazing me with his energy. I went into the season thinking he was a PR fraud. After watching him start out the season in the bullpen with my seats right above him I came to appreciate his enthusiasm as nothing but real. Even when he got shelled the next day he would still be one happy man. He is the only Dodger to this day that would get to the bullpen before everyone else and just throw baseball after baseball into the stands and talk with the fans without any attitude. He did this daily except for the days he was scheduled to start. All year long. I for one loved Lima time and just because Depo made the right move in not resigning him doesn't mean we should denigrate what he did for us in 2004.

2005-12-16 10:48:48
27.   Curtis Lowe
25-I'd rather we pick up Wells than let Tomko anywhere near the Dodger Clubhouse.
2005-12-16 10:49:26
28.   jasonungar05
Well..dont get me wrong, I really like Drama too. I loved Traffic-which is why i want to see syriana and I like movies based around History/Politics, since I was a History/Poly Sci Major oh so long ago. A movie I finally saw over Turkey Day was Kingdom of Heaven. Not sure how I missed that in the theaters, that was pretty good.

Of course the Godfather (1/2) is really tops along with Goodfellas, but I only went with three.

2005-12-16 10:50:56
29.   Bob Timmermann
27
For those who judge players like Lima and Erickson by their spouses, I will point out that Brett Tomko is married to a former Playboy centerfold.
2005-12-16 10:51:55
30.   blue22
27 - That may be an option. I could see Choi going for Wells, if Ned gets a 1B. Wells has a nice little price tag on him though.
2005-12-16 10:52:25
31.   Curtis Lowe
29-I retract my statement in 27. I was beside myself. Who is Wells married to?
2005-12-16 10:52:30
32.   Jesse
25- why would you rather have edwin in the rotation over dj?
2005-12-16 10:53:50
33.   Jon Weisman
26 - Who's denigrating what he did for us in 2004?
2005-12-16 10:55:06
34.   DaveP
26 - I'm happy to reminisce about Lima's '04 performance.

I'm even ok with the Dodgers signing him to a PR contract and have him do 7th inning trivia contests and throw balls to fans. Just don't let him throw any balls to opposing batters this year.

2005-12-16 11:02:43
35.   alnyden
What does it say about Depo's performance that the new GM feels the need to sign free agents at third base, first base, short stop, and two outfield positions, before even adressing the starting pitching? Are injuries completely to blame, or was this team a total mess?
2005-12-16 11:04:12
36.   blue22
32 - I don't see DJ as a long-term solution. Too old, too many homeruns, too many walks, not guaranteed a roster spot as a Rule V anymore. I see him as a midseason replacement (like Derek Thompson last year) in case of injury or incompetence.

I wouldn't want Edwin anywhere near Vegas, and I'm not sure what pitching in AA again would prove. It's getting close to "put up or shut up" time for him. (I know - he's still young, but he's running out of places to pitch).

2005-12-16 11:08:48
37.   King of the Hobos
35 SS and LF are both needed because of injuries. We have a good 1B, and Colletti has admitted it's not particularly high on his list of priorities. 3B and a 3rd OF were both DePo's offseason goals, so he's hardly any different than Colletti there
2005-12-16 11:10:34
38.   Jon Weisman
35 - Teams try to improve every year. You might notice that the GMs of last year's playoff teams feel needs as well.
2005-12-16 11:17:56
39.   bigcpa
35 Our 2005 3b was on a 1-year contract and our 2005 SS is unavailable until August. So the two players Colletti has signed were obvious needs.
2005-12-16 11:28:22
40.   molokai
35
Sure the team was mess but our missing SS/RF/LF/CF were directly releated to injuries. 3b would have had to be dealt with again just like last year and I'm fine with the pitching as it stands.
I wouldn't trade jack for Wells considering his price tag, but if Boston wants to send him our way I'll take him.

A pitching rotation of
Lima
Benson
Tomko
Penny
Lowe
Erickson

Would make it worthwhile to sit behind the Dodger wives bench. I think it'd make a great reality series.

2005-12-16 11:29:33
41.   KLV
I'll cast a dissenting vote strongly in favor of Syriana. It assumes a certain amount of knowledge about D.C. culture and Middle East politics, and it does not spend much time explaining those subjects for the uninitiated, but it is an intelligent political movie, which is a bit of a rarity these days. Just don't go in expecting an action-adventure or a full-blown thriller. Most of the movie is almost documentary-like in its pacing.
2005-12-16 11:39:47
42.   molokai
38
Can't remember a team who just won the WS being as aggressive as Kenny Williams. If he moves Garland it will be even more impressive. The man has grown into his job and it looks like the WS made the right choice in picking him over Evans.
2005-12-16 11:42:57
43.   Bob Timmermann
I guess Jon is right, Stanford grads are indeed a little better than the rest of us mere mortals.
2005-12-16 11:47:14
44.   Brendan
Have to go with King Kong on a friday night. Good Night Good luck is a great matinee movie.
2005-12-16 11:49:37
45.   Strike4
I think it's fallacious to call Lima supporters in 05 hypocrites if they don't support signing him in 06. Obviously there's another season of information and he's now 33 years old. Having said that, I would still consider signing Lima to a $500,000 non-roster contract. Beforehand, do a Bradley test to answer whether teammates and others can work with him -- and is it just DT'ers who can't.
2005-12-16 11:54:18
46.   dzzrtRatt
45 Lima probably just had an off-year in '05 due to ... soap...poisoning...
2005-12-16 11:57:34
47.   molokai
45
Whose left who actually played with Lima in 2004?
Choi/Werth/Saenz
Gagne/Sanchez/Op/Penny/Yhancy

Anyway I wouldn't bring him back. His magical time came and went and you can't recreate magic. It would be a disaster. Just let DJ and EJ do their thing and we'll be pleasantly surprised.

2005-12-16 11:58:21
48.   Jesse
The Hardball Times PrOPS for 2006 rates Nomar and Milton as almost identical players. Bradley, I assume, will be the better defender and draw a few more walks, maybe, but Nomar would not be a bad replacement at all. They both have the ability to miss a decent amount of time as well.
2005-12-16 12:00:08
49.   Blue in SF
All the talk today is about No-Mah playing First Base for the Dogger, NOT Outfield.

ESPN:
Dec 16 - Nomar Garciaparra likely will decide early next week where he is going to play next year, The New York Post reports.
"Nomar is very pleased to have several attractive options for next season," agent Arn Tellem told the newspaper. "He is weighing all of them carefully and hopes to make the best decision for him and his family in the very near future."

The Yankees would like Garciaparra, 32, to play first base and DH. The Indians and Astros are looking at him as an outfielder, and the Dodgers view him as a first base option. Garciaparra, who has a home in Manhattan Beach, Calif., met with Dodger brass for several hours Thursday.

Buster Olney:

Bob: I'm not going to pretend that at 10:53 a.m. on Dec. 16, I have any special insight into what Nomar is thinking -- but if I had to venture a guess, I'd say the Dodgers or Astros. All of his options are good and they are all imperfect. If he wants to rebuild his stature and his portfolio, he should go to the Yankees, but he has to know the scrutiny will be off the charts. If he wants to be the most comfortable with his surroundings, he should go to Cleveland, where he could play for a former teammate in Eric Wedge, and on a good team -- but he would have to play a position, right field, that might increase his injury risk, and if he were to flounder in the outfield, it would be a mess. He could go to L.A. and play first base near his home, but in midseason, he'd inevitably be faced with a position crisis. Izturis will come back and play second, in all likelihood, and Jeff Kent will be shifted to first -- and Nomar might be left out. Nomar could go to Houston, where he could play first base or the outfield -- but there would be more pressure there than in New York or L.A. or Cleveland for him to actually produce, because the Houston offense seems so thin. So, who knows -- but I think we'll hear today.

2005-12-16 12:05:48
50.   dzzrtRatt
John Donavan of SI.com almost calls Milton Bradley "toolsy," in this piece that raises a few questions about Billy Beane's sanity, while supporting all his recent or rumored moves on the basis that he's...Billy Beane!

Don't show this column to Joe Morgan while he's drinking soup.

http://tinyurl.com/73lug

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51.   Warren
41
You liked Syriana more than I did. I'm a political/news junkie so I understood it. However, to me it felt like most of the characters were very cookie cutter. The story was fine once it really got off the ground. But unlike Traffic where you had both an exceptional story and magnificant acting, Syriana to me lacked both. I'm not suggesting that you shouldn't see it. But I was expecting something similar to Traffic or Three Kings and it fell way short for me.
2005-12-16 12:13:35
52.   regfairfield
50 It appears, like most writers, that he missed the main point of Moneyball in that you buy low and sell high. Bradley fit the very definition of this.

Of course, if he doesn't trade one of his starters, that Loaiza signing does look crazy.

2005-12-16 12:13:46
53.   dzzrtRatt
Re: Nomar. Do you guys think his power is just gone, or was it impacted by his injuries? Is he likely to get it back if he's healthy? He's hit over 20 home runs in every season where he played at least 135 games, but only 18 in the past two seasons combined.

I ask this b/c if we get Garciaparra, it looks like he'll be playing first base. I guess we're supposed to assume that b/c first base is an easy position to play, Nomar will be able to play it better than Choi/Saenz. And we're supposed to assume that Nomar will hit more homers than the old platoon.

With Mueller not much of a homerun threat, the decision on who plays first should be made primarily on who is more of a power threat in the lineup, no? I don't care about how much McCourt wants to spend, and I don't have an extraordinary attachment to Choi, but I want to make sure Nomar's really an upgrade.

It appears that the best home run hitter still out there that the Dodgers might want is Sanders.

2005-12-16 12:14:31
54.   SMY
More fun from Scout.com:

In their search for production at first base, Colletti has considered free agent J.T. Snow, the Los Angeles Daily News reports. Snow, who spent nine seasons with San Francisco, will turn 38 in spring training, Snow and his six Gold Gloves still represent a major upgrade both offensively and defensively over Hee-Seop Choi. However, Choi hit 11 more home runs in 47 less at bats. He posted a slightly lesser OBP (.343-.336) but slugged 90 points higher than Snow. Replacing a 26-year-old power hitter with a 38 year-old defensive wizard is probably not the way to go. …

Or paraphrased, "J.T. Snow is an upgrade offensively and defensively over Hee Seop Choi. However, here are some reasons why Choi is better offensively than J.T. Snow. In conclusion, J.T. Snow is not an upgrade over Hee Seop Choi."

2005-12-16 12:15:37
55.   Jon Weisman
49 - Putting everything else aside, is Buster Olney suggesting that Nomar, assuming he made it to July healthy, couldn't beat Cesar Izturis out of a job?
2005-12-16 12:17:25
56.   fanerman
Outfield = weak
First base = okay

Solution: play Nomar in the outfield for awhile. If Choi melts down (as in literally turns into butter), then Nomar can step in and play over the buttery slime that used to be Hee Seop Choi.

2005-12-16 12:19:42
57.   Warren
I don't think Buster has any inside information on what the plans are for Nomar. I think he's simply speculating what a good fit might be. I think the national writers tend not to know nearly enough detail about the team. Yesterday Steve Phillips suggested the Dodgers needed a catcher. I've heard numerous national writers say that Gagne had Tommy John surgery this year. Etc.

To me the smartest play would be to sign Nomar with the understanding that he'll be the everyday leftfielder. The Yankees apparently want him to juggle several positions and be happy in a utility role. So this would seem more appealing.

2005-12-16 12:19:44
58.   D4P
54
That's classic.
2005-12-16 12:20:10
59.   regfairfield
In our search for an outfielder until Werth comes back, why not the recently released Jeff DaVanon? He stunk last year, but he was pretty dang good the previous two years. He's had an isolated patience of over a hundred two of the last three years and has shown some power.

For what it's worth, he's basically a strictly better version of Repko.

2005-12-16 12:22:26
60.   Jeromy
40
I think that was the best suggestion for a reality series I've heard in a long time.

I think at this point in his career, Nomar understands that he needs to be able to play anywhere on the diamond. When healthy, he can be among the league leaders in batting. I would love to see him in LF for the Dodgers this year.

2005-12-16 12:22:40
61.   Fallout
10. Jon Weisman

I think that there would have been a little more hope for Nomo than Erickson to produce.
Nomo had a come back in the past that was completely unexspected. He has that wicked forkball. If he could only get his fastball to a decent speed he'd win again.
Erickson had nothing left that was exceptional.

2005-12-16 12:23:57
62.   SMY
58 Scout.com has some amazing logic. The other day there was a column on Bradley's anger problems, which basically amounted to "Bradley is just another sad story about a talented player who couldn't face his personal demons" and then talked about players falling victim to infidelity and substance abuse, and really had nothing to do with Bradley at all, other than his name was mentioned.
2005-12-16 12:25:44
63.   King of the Hobos
49 That sounds like people at ESPN guessing where Nomar will play. The only thing Colletti has actually been quoted on is that 1B is not a priority (and he said yesterday that he asked Santa for an OF and a SP, with 1B not being mentioned). Olney even mentions why Nomar would probably be in LF without realizing it, Izzy could come back

53 He hit all 9 homers last year AFTER he came back from injury. It took him 179 ABs to hit those homers. I wouldn't worry too much

54 It's confusing, but it's quoting the Daily News, then explaining why Tony Jackson is a moron

2005-12-16 12:27:46
64.   Jon Weisman
61 - I can buy that.
2005-12-16 12:27:53
65.   GoBears
My wife works for Universal, so we got free preview tix for King Kong last week. It was fun, but an hour too long (Peter Jackson is too cool to be edited now, I guess). And the SFX are awesome, but a little over the top. The first hour is slow (especially since the audience knows what's going to happen, and is anxious to get there - no monkey for an hour!). The second hour is non-stop action. The third is, well, you know what the 3rd is.

One caution. For those of you with kids who are interested, I recommend previewing it first before you take kids under, say, 11 or 12. Some of the monster attack stuff might be a little scary. When we saw it, several parents rushed their kids out during that part, and the kids were clearly freaked out.

Haven't seen the other new ones, but saw "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang" a couple weeks ago. I loved it. Hysterically funny satire of film noir. Syriana was sold out, so we chose this. Good choice!

2005-12-16 12:29:27
66.   King of the Hobos
Here's how the Scout.com article should be written (well, closer to how should anyways):

In their search for production at first base, Colletti has considered free agent J.T. Snow, the Los Angeles Daily News reports: "Snow, who spent nine seasons with San Francisco, will turn 38 in spring training, Snow and his six Gold Gloves still represent a major upgrade both offensively and defensively over Hee-Seop Choi."
However, Choi hit 11 more home runs in 47 less at bats. He posted a slightly lesser OBP (.343-.336) but slugged 90 points higher than Snow. Replacing a 26-year-old power hitter with a 38 year-old defensive wizard is probably not the way to go.

Notice how the original way had a period after reports? Scout.com has terrible editors (if they have any). Grammar and sentence structure tend to be terrible

2005-12-16 12:30:46
67.   dzzrtRatt
52I guess the Dodgers did a buy low/sell low move with Bradley. I guess that's why that strategy works: Your risk is always low.
2005-12-16 12:35:47
68.   SMY
63,66 You're probably right, but after having read several of those Scout.com articles and their authors' philosophies on team building, not to mention the atrocious (lack of) editing, the way I originally read it wouldn't surprise me. Plus my way is funnier.
2005-12-16 12:36:55
69.   King of the Hobos
After Cleveland signed 2 Dodger minor league FAs (Donovan and Flores), Florida decided to aswell, signing Carlyle and Rupe (and Mike Kinkade)
2005-12-16 12:37:30
70.   Midwest Blue
My preferred use of Nomar would be at 2B. Slide Kent over to first and at least you have some power coming from 1B. Nomar might also be able to cover more ground than Kent. When Izzy comes back, you can either move Nomar to the outfield to replace someone who is not doing well or injured (what are the odds?) or you can trade Izzy, or you can insert Izzy at 2B when Nomar gets hurt (unfortunately, all too realistic scenarios).
2005-12-16 12:40:27
71.   Jon Weisman
The end of the Buddy Carlyle Experiment? 'Tis a sad day for this Dodger Thoughts writer.

But welcome back to the States, Mike "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" Kinkade!

70 - I don't think there should be any talk of using Nomar in the infield with the outfield in its present condition.

2005-12-16 12:41:05
72.   King of the Hobos
I may have missed it, but has Kent told Colletti he will move off 2B? Considering he didn't want to last year, I'm not sure how willing he would be this year
2005-12-16 12:42:22
73.   GoBears
70 Naw, that doesn't make any sense. If Nomar can't handle short any more, he can't handle 2nd either. His problems are not with his arm or glove. They would affect his range, which is needed as much at 2b as SS.
2005-12-16 12:45:41
74.   Fallout
64 Jon Weisman

Well, I thought that I would throw that out.
The Yankees acquired Nomo I think in hopes he could come back again. They didn't acquire Erickson. A weak argument I'll agree.

2005-12-16 12:47:07
75.   sanchez101
Nomar hit .318/.352/.531 after coming back from injury last year. Nomar's career line is .320/.367/.554. Those look pretty similar, especially considering that Wrigley is tougher on righthanded hitters than Fenway. I think it might be the case that he's finally gotten over his wrist injury from 2001, or did in 2003 or 2004 but we just havent seen it because of other injuries. He will never hit .370 again, and certainly not in Dodger Stadium, but I he's good for 25 homeruns over a full season.
2005-12-16 12:50:59
76.   Linkmeister
40 Re: Benson

As long as I don't have to listen to his wife's political views:

http://tinyurl.com/ex5tt

2005-12-16 12:53:13
77.   willhite
70 -

Do we get more credit for power if the guy who has it plays first base instead of second? Kent wants to stay at second. Nomar says he'll play anywhere. Why move Kent to first so his homers will be credited to the "first baseman".

2005-12-16 13:00:56
78.   Daniel Zappala
75 Everyone agrees Nomar will produce. The only question is whether he will stay healthy. It's a risky investment, but one I would make.
2005-12-16 13:04:23
79.   Robert Daeley
Don't know if y'all have read this yet, but here's a Daily News piece on the latest Nomar info we've seen already...

http://www.dailynews.com/sports/ci_3313672

...with the additional tidbit:

"The Dodgers also continue to pursue free-agent outfielders Kenny Lofton, Reggie Sanders and Preston Wilson. But they appear to be long shots in the race to sign free-agent outfielder Johnny Damon, whose Los Angeles-based agent, Scott Boras, is believed to be asking for nothing short of a five-year guarantee. Free-agent outfielder Jacque Jones, a former USC All-American, also is close to falling off the Dodgers' radar."

2005-12-16 13:10:44
80.   King of the Hobos
The Rangers have signed D'Angelo Jimenez to a minor league contract. Even though he wasn't particularly great in 100 ABs last year in the majors, he'll be 28 next season and has been good in the past. Last year in AA, he had more walks than twice his number of strikes outs (69/34), and he's had as many as 82 walks in a season in the majors. Not a lot of power or speed, but there are a lot of 2Bs out there that are far worse being signed to major league contracts
2005-12-16 13:12:17
81.   King of the Hobos
79 Now we just need Wilson to join Jones in the fall off the Dodgers' radar
2005-12-16 13:15:36
82.   Midwest Blue
71, 73, et. al

Okay, sorrrry! But I'd still rather see Nomar in the infield than the outfield.

On another note, I noticed that you still have $1.3 mill on the sidebar credited to Ishii. When does that come off?

2005-12-16 13:19:10
83.   Blu2
Just looked over the salary numbers in the column to the right. Gagne's $10 mill just looks obscene with no other relief pitcher making even $500,000. I wouldn't mind trading him, Sanchez and Brazoban did a credible job last year and I think they can do it again. Trade Gagne for a good starter. Or if his value is in question now, trade him for some really good prospects in July. In the meantime, sign Weaver or someone better, knowing you're going to lose that 10 million dollar anchor in July or at the end of the year...
2005-12-16 13:20:55
84.   King of the Hobos
82 Whenever buyouts are paid. We had to pay a part of his buyout according to the terms of the Phillips trade
2005-12-16 13:31:33
85.   scanderbeg
71 I join you in your grief. I think I was the only other person who was optomistic about Carlyle's chances last season.

Just a thought, but would playing 1B or OF decrease Nomar's liklihood of injury (rather than if he played 2B, SS or 3B)?

2005-12-16 13:32:45
86.   molokai
83
I used to want to trade Gagne when his value was