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$7,000,000 Esteban Loaiza
*$500,000 Chad Billingsley
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$500,000 Russell Martin
*$400,000 James Loney
*$400,000 Matt Kemp
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$600,000 Mark Sweeney
$424,500 Andre Ethier
$391,000 Delwyn Young
$390,000 Chin-Lung Hu
$390,000 Blake DeWitt
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*$400,000 Tony Abreu
*$390,000 Andy LaRoche
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$750,000 Odalis Perez
$540,000 Yhency Brazoban
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$487,500 Jason Repko
$135,225 Rudy Seanez
$100,000 Mike Lieberthal
$50,000 Ramon Martinez
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Gonna Shoot You Right Down
2006-03-04 13:52
by Jon Weisman

Jonathan Broxton and D.J. Houlton combined to allow nine straight batters to reach base from the end of Friday's game to the start of today's game; seven scored. That's called "gettin' loose."

In other tidbits:

  • Odalis Perez is marching in the I've Come to Spring Training in Better Shape Parade.

  • Bob Timmermann passes along the news about two Dodgers from the great 2003 pitching staff: Hideo Nomo has signed a minor league contract with the Chicago White Sox and Paul Quantrill is retiring.

  • By the way, if you've never read Timmermann's biography of Harry Kingman, today's a perfect day.

  • One more from the Griddler, in the recent Dodger Thoughts comments.

    411. Bob Timmermann
    The best comment of the basketball game I'm watching is:
    Play-by-play guy: If Belmont wins, they get to buy some new shoes because they are going to the Big Dance.
    Color guy: Actually, Belmont is a Southern Baptist school that prohibits dancing.

    This should be in Morning Briefing in the Times.

  • Though he continues to insist that the 2004 Dodgers were a young team, Jim Tracy has no hard feelings with Paul DePodesta, according to this Scott Miller CBS SportsLine.com story (passed on by Dodger Thoughts commenter Gilgamesh).

    Meanwhile, in what might be a staggering surprise to those who followed the Dodger wreckage to the end, Tracy has spoken with DePodesta a few times since. And not only that, the deposed DePodesta sent Tracy a note to the Pirates' spring headquarters here.

    "A very wonderful note, I might add," Tracy says. "A very professionally done thing."

    That's nice, I say.

    "It's better than nice," Tracy replies. "Better than nice. That says a lot. The mere suggestion of it says a lot."

    A moment later, Tracy continues: "I think a big misnomer is that Paul and I don't get along with one another. Let me make that clear, that's not the case. By any stretch of the imagination, that's not the case. Not even close.

    "We may not see things in the same way. We may not agree on things, but it is completely inaccurate to think that we don't like one another."

    Update: J.D. Drew's problem isn't health, but a downed pilot light, according to Bill Plaschke of the Times.

    In one of his last acts on that team, (Kenny) Lofton reportedly called out the nonchalance of Sammy Sosa in the Wrigley Field clubhouse, which is sort of like calling out the President in the Oval Office.

    Although no Dodger will publicly admit it, if Lofton can light the same fire under J.D. Drew this year, he will be worth every penny.

    So the scenario is that the Dodgers' best offensive player hasn't been and/or won't be playing to his full potential, Lofton will say something, and because of what Lofton said, Drew will be more productive. After all these years, after playing with all-business guys like Jeff Kent, after playing almost every day in 2005 until a pitch broke his wrist, Drew would just need the touch of Lofton to push him over the top.

    I don't think this tracks.

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    2006-03-04 14:20:40
    1.   Nolan
    Has DePo been seen or heard from? Has he moved? Is there any info out there?

    I haven't heard a peep.

    Jon - I would think that this site would be the most logical place for him to break his silence...Any chance of getting him?

    2006-03-04 14:27:45
    2.   trainwreck
    Really professional and gracious thing to do by DePo. He is a really good guy and I wish people would nit judge him in these incorrect stereotypes.
    2006-03-04 14:28:08
    3.   Bob Timmermann
    I would imagine DePodesta is spending his time cashing paychecks from the Dodgers and engaging in quality time with his young kids.

    And spending time on alt.lit.aynrand

    2006-03-04 14:28:41
    4.   trainwreck
    Good to see both guys do not let their differences of opinion effect how they feel about one another.
    2006-03-04 14:31:49
    5.   Slipstream
    You gotta admire Nomo's tenacity.
    2006-03-04 14:33:49
    6.   Andrew Shimmin
    If DePo had known his job was in jeopardy, I wonder if he and Tracy might not have had a bumpier ride. I ass-u-me that he let Tracy be Tracy, last year, only because he'd written the season off. But who knows.
    2006-03-04 14:34:32
    7.   D4P
    I thought Depo went back to Oakland...?
    2006-03-04 14:36:09
    8.   Andrew Shimmin
    5- Tenacity may be a misnomer, in this case.

    3- I don't remember where the article was, but one of the Bay Area papers ran a long article on Milton Bradley that included the tidbit that The Fountainhead was his favorite book. Which, if it wasn't self-evident, just goes to show that it's a bad idea to get attached to Ayn Rand fans.

    2006-03-04 14:36:45
    9.   sws
    sitting here in germany with dagwich. taught my kids the danny kaye dodgers song and my 7 year old knows it almost by heart. it's great to follow the dodgers from europe and i think this year's acquisitions look promising...
    2006-03-04 14:37:05
    10.   trainwreck
    7-
    Beane has said DePo is just spending time since he had a new born child. Once he wants to come back sometime next year he has a job in Oakland if he wants it.
    2006-03-04 14:38:16
    11.   Uncle Miltie
    Are you sure that Depodesta's note wasn't an instant message? I thought he was a bad communicator...

    Great news on Perez. He definitely has the most ability of any pitcher on the staff. If he's healthy, I expect him to have a great year.

    Hopefully Billingsley can continue to pitch well. If he has a great Spring Training, will he make the team? That will make both the Brett Tomko signing and Jae Seo trade look really bad.

    2006-03-04 14:38:58
    12.   trainwreck
    *spending time with family
    2006-03-04 14:40:18
    13.   trainwreck
    I am going to have to disagree with the idea that Perez has the most ability of any pitcher on the staff. Penny may have the best stuff and Lowe has performed the best in prior seasons.
    2006-03-04 14:43:16
    14.   Bob Timmermann
    Kevin Harlan on CBS has made the bold assertion that UCLA is one of the "6 or 7 elite programs" in college basketball history.

    Color man Dan Bonner politely declined to make fun of him

    2006-03-04 14:43:54
    15.   Andrew Shimmin
    If he takes a new job, doesn't he lose all the sweet getting-fired money? Or did they buy him out at the time of firing?
    2006-03-04 14:46:14
    16.   Jon Weisman
    11 - I doubt a great spring by Billingsley would make both the Tomko and Seo moves look bad. Maybe one of them.

    In any event, as far as April is concerned, a great Spring Training by Chad shouldn't be taken much more seriously than a great Spring Training by Aaron Sele. Certainly, Chad has a nice future, but retiring the No. 89s of various teams is no assurance that he's ready for the Dodger starting rotation.

    2006-03-04 14:46:30
    17.   Icaros
    The New York Yankees are one of the ten most successful organizations in MLB history.
    2006-03-04 14:54:19
    18.   Uncle Miltie
    16- I'd rather have him up with the Dodgers than have him pitch in Vegas
    2006-03-04 14:58:49
    19.   Jon Weisman
    18 - That's a separate point altogether.

    At some point, though, I do start to wonder whether people are getting hysterical about pitching in Vegas. I'm not singling you out, Miltie - nor am I denying that it's acutely difficult. But is there any proof to the notion that it's damaging, or are we just depressed about Edwin?

    2006-03-04 15:01:53
    20.   trainwreck
    I really think it is all the comparisons betweeen Vegas and Coors that make it seem so scary.
    2006-03-04 15:07:56
    21.   Uncle Miltie
    18- I should add that I want him in LA if he has a great spring. Only a few pitchers have been able to succeed at Vegas (just like Coors). Brazoban pitched very well in Vegas but it was only for a little more than 10 innings. I think Osoria had a nice season there last year. Besides Brazoban, I can't think of one pitcher who pitched at Vegas and had a great K/BB ratio. I've read that at Vegas, curve balls and sliders flatten out.
    2006-03-04 15:08:10
    22.   Bob Timmermann
    UCLA will play in the 2:30ish game on Thursday at Staples. Stanford will likely be playing in the first game that starts at noon against Cal, Arizona, or Washington. UCLA will face most likely either WSU, ASU, or OSU. Somebody with a "State" in the name.
    2006-03-04 15:10:18
    23.   dzzrtRatt
    The Tracy/DePodesta story should put to rest the notion that chemistry means anything.

    DePo and Tracy had good chemistry, it appears -- and it hurt both their careers, because (I'm assuming) it led to DePo's biggest blunder, the maintenance of Tracy as manager for '05 even though both men knew their philosophies were incompatible.

    So, how nice they got along. My grandmother and George H.W. Bush would be impressed by DePo sending Tracy a nice card. But the baseball outcome suffered and as fans that's the only thing that matters.

    (P.S. There is yet another Brokeback Mountain parody waiting to be made from clips of Tracy and DePodesta. Wish I knew how to edit video on a PC. I wish I knew how to quit you, Paulie!)

    2006-03-04 15:13:43
    24.   Jon Weisman
    21 - I'm just playing Devil's Advocate. Obviously, it's a different environment. But is it necessarily an environment that hampers your development? As far as K/BB ratios and other stats, you can always adjust those with ballpark factors.

    If Vegas merely challenges pitchers, if it teaches them how to pitch without their best stuff, than that's not a problem. If it forces pitchers to change mechanics or just flat out not learn how to pitch major league ball, then the Dodgers should have been out of there yesterday.

    2006-03-04 15:16:52
    25.   Bob Timmermann
    I bought my ticket for the Pac-10 tournament, which is my sum total of going to college basketball games in person for the year. Last year, it was one ticket for all four games, but this year you can only get in to see two. However last year I had to sit in the upper reaches of Staples. This year, I can sit in the middle section with the fancy service and all that. I consider it to be the male equivalent of going to a day spa.
    2006-03-04 15:17:20
    26.   natepurcell
    the thing with vegas is that with the desert air, the ball flys. add in that the wind always seems to be blowing out towards the outfield bleachers, can of corn fly balls turn into homeruns.

    a couple months in vegas for billingsley probably wont hurt him. who knows, he might even succeed there.

    2006-03-04 15:17:49
    27.   Andrew Shimmin
    21- Gagne did well. Didn't stay long enough, though, to really know.

    ERA 1.52 IP 23.2 HR 2 BB 8 K 31 K9 11.79 WHIP 0.97 K/BB 3.875

    2006-03-04 15:19:58
    28.   natepurcell
    if i remember correctly, all the outs by billingsley today were either gb outs or Ks. thats good to see.
    2006-03-04 15:37:00
    29.   King of the Hobos
    I guess we could look at Joel Hanrahan, who was terrible in his 2003 cup of coffee in Vegas, then just as bad during a full season in 2004, and was terrible after being demoted to Vero/Jacksonville

    Last year Osoria had a 2.62 ERA there in 55 IP, very impressive. Derek Thompson has a 3.43 ERA, but in only 21 IP. Odalis, in a rehab, was at 4.30 in 14.2 IP. Schmoll, in 26 IP, had a 4.78 ERA. Calyle was at 4.88 in 48 IP. Mahomes led the 100+ IP group (which was him, Eckert, Totten, and Nall) with a 5.35 ERA. Of the 10 pitchers with 50+ IP, only Osoria and Gonzalez were under 5.00

    There's a legitimate argument that the guys that pitched most of the season there just suck, although many of them were very impressive for Jacksonville in 2003 or 2004, or wherever else they pitched

    2006-03-04 15:40:20
    30.   King of the Hobos
    I guess we could look at Joel Hanrahan, who was terrible in his 2003 cup of coffee in Vegas, then just as bad during a full season in 2004, and was terrible after being demoted to Vero/Jacksonville

    Last year Osoria had a 2.62 ERA there in 55 IP, very impressive. Derek Thompson has a 3.43 ERA, but in only 21 IP. Odalis, in a rehab, was at 4.30 in 14.2 IP. Schmoll, in 26 IP, had a 4.78 ERA. Calyle was at 4.88 in 48 IP. Mahomes led the 100+ IP group (which was him, Eckert, Totten, and Nall) with a 5.35 ERA. Of the 10 pitchers with 50+ IP, only Osoria and Gonzalez were under 5.00

    There's a legitimate argument that the guys that pitched most of the season there just suck, although many of them were very impressive for Jacksonville in 2003 or 2004, or wherever else they pitched

    2006-03-04 16:36:30
    31.   Suffering Bruin
    No one is remarking on Jon's headline? Rhino has the very best of John Lee Hooker out and it's a lot like all of the other "very best" albums of John Lee Hooker--same tracks, same beat and a lot of fun to listen to.
    2006-03-04 16:42:56
    32.   Steve
    I'm glad they didn't keep their personal issues from letting them run the team into the ground. Must...have...priorities...
    2006-03-04 16:56:40
    33.   oldbear
    Bradley and AP both started for Oakland today. Ricky Weeks hit a homer off of Barry Zito.

    Greg Miller got 1ip for the Dodgers today.

    Other than that, pretty boring day in baseball.

    2006-03-04 17:08:03
    34.   natepurcell
    hopefully orenduff will pitch tomorrow. lowe baez and odalis are scheduled to pitch.
    2006-03-04 17:10:55
    35.   thinkingblue
    That will make both the Brett Tomko signing and Jae Seo trade look really bad.<<

    No it won't. If you want to take 2 innings in ST that seriously, Tomko pitched 2 perfect innings the other day.

    You cannot count on young pitchers, so it was a good move to set the rotation, in case Chad was not ready.

    Also, it would still not make the Seo move look bad, maybe for Tomko it would, but I think the Seo move will prove a steal for us this year.

    Besides, if Chad is really lights out @ AAA, maybe we can use Tomko in the bullpen. And I think Chad has a better chance at being successful at AAA, because he has more poise than guys like Jackson, and Hanrahan.

    After all, remember Jackson had only been pitching for a few years, while Chad has been a pitcher for more of his life.

    2006-03-04 17:44:36
    36.   natepurcell
    so will the chinese taipei team pitch kuo or what?
    2006-03-04 17:48:49
    37.   natepurcell
    whoa they pitched him last night. but only for .2 innings.
    2006-03-04 17:55:15
    38.   D4P
    I'm actually getting a little verklempt watching Duke's senior night recognitions.
    2006-03-04 17:55:48
    39.   Andrew Shimmin
    37- He didn't do well. Don't remember his line exactly, but I'm pretty sure he didn't strike anybody out. And he gave up a couple runs.
    2006-03-04 17:58:21
    40.   natepurcell
    so whos going to stay up for the battle of the asian powerhouses?
    2006-03-04 17:59:01
    41.   dsfan
    There appears to be a dearth of good pitching, not a glut, so if Billingsley-Seo-Tomko are all ready, so much the better.

    As for Billingsley, more good than bad if he starts the season in the minors. Let him sharpen his accuracy and improve his changeup. As Broxton and EJ found out, just throwing hard doesn't cut it in the majors. Build up Billingsley slowly, whether it's Vegas or Jacksonville doesn't matter much.

    If he does come up during the season, you want him fresh and confident in his accuracy and changeup.

    And delaying Billingsley's arb. clock is another plus.

    2006-03-04 18:06:04
    42.   natepurcell
    i agree with dsfan. billingsley isnt a finished product. he still has things he can and should work on to improve himself.
    2006-03-04 18:09:00
    43.   Andrew Shimmin
    I thought it was a mistake when I saw Duke vs. UNC listed on both ESPN and ESPN2. I'm still pretty sure it's a mistake, but a different sort of one.
    2006-03-04 18:11:09
    44.   D4P
    ESPN2 has all the unique and unusual camera angles. It's also a little bit ahead of ESPN in time, as you'll note if you switch back and forth between the two.
    2006-03-04 18:16:41
    45.   thinkingblue
    39.

    I saw some of him pitching last night. Didn't look like his command was on, he got Ichiro, and the next batter out his first inning, but struggled, and didn't get anyone out the second inning.

    2006-03-04 18:20:25
    46.   Andrew Shimmin
    44- It may be a bit ahead, but it's impossible to see what's happening, half the time. There's a reason they put the cameras where they usually do.
    2006-03-04 18:20:51
    47.   Uncle Miltie
    44- what's next Yankee-Red Sox games on both channels? Watching it on ESPN 2 isn't even enjoyable. They are zooming in far too close on the players.
    2006-03-04 18:23:26
    48.   D4P
    47
    what's next Yankee-Red Sox games on both channels?

    That would give you a choice between watching the game from the left side of the mound or the right.

    2006-03-04 18:23:27
    49.   ToyCannon
    Wilson Alveraz was lights out for Vegas when we signed him as a non-roster player. His numbers were downright scary good for the PCL.

    If everyone is healthy I don't want to see Chad in a Dodger uniform in April. Seo will be one of the best number 5 pitchers in baseball this year and Tomko can be Tomko as long as our big 3 are healthy.

    Abreu is batting average dependent but if you can hit 325, that has value. Not sure why anyone see's him as Izzy since Izzy was no stroker in the minors and was all defense while Abreu is a hitter with speed and gap power. When I watched him at the AFL he showed plenty of gap power during batting practice. The players with speed who have zero power are the ones I could care less about, but a speed player with gap power makes the defense play you honest and increases the chances of those line drives finding holes. Plus he is a GG 2nd baseman and can play SS without much fall off. JMO

    2006-03-04 18:23:45
    50.   Andrew Shimmin
    ACC refs like it rough, it looks like. Oh, unless it's Sheldon Williams, I guess. That sucks. He's the only player I like, in this game.
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    2006-03-04 18:28:25
    51.   ToyCannon
    31
    I'm waiting for the movie. I hear Jamie Fox wants a crack at it.
    2006-03-04 18:29:29
    52.   Andrew Shimmin
    Even if one of the starting five goes down, I don't want to see Billingsly in L.A. this year. If he's absolutely dominating AAA, even from Vegas, then a second half call up would be alright. But I'd rather see Houlton take that fifth spot back, for injury filling in. Or Broxton, if they stop flirting with making a relief pitcher out of him.
    2006-03-04 18:30:13
    53.   natepurcell
    lol they are using espn 2 for an only reddick cam. ha. lets see if he does something gross like eat his boogers.
    2006-03-04 18:31:51
    54.   natepurcell
    Oh, unless it's Sheldon Williams, I guess. That sucks. He's the only player I like, in this game.

    sheldon williams is sam cassell's big brother.

    2006-03-04 18:33:05
    55.   natepurcell
    re 54

    which doesnt make sense if you look at their ages.. but you know what i mean.

    2006-03-04 18:33:29
    56.   thinkingblue
    52.

    I don't know if Houlton would be better than Chad. IMO, if one of our starters go down in the second half, and Chad has been dominating, I'd call him up.

    2006-03-04 18:37:44
    57.   Marty
    So I noticed there are a couple good team matchups for opening series. L.A.-Atlanta and N.Y.-Oakland. Should be good baseball from the start.
    2006-03-04 18:38:07
    58.   Jon Weisman
    Short update up top of this post.
    2006-03-04 18:39:30
    59.   King of the Hobos
    Hu doubled, and stole 3rd. Didn't score though
    2006-03-04 18:40:50
    60.   Andrew Shimmin
    Hu doubled and stole third, in the second inning. Still no score.
    2006-03-04 18:43:33
    61.   Andrew Shimmin
    Right. Refresh. Sorry.
    2006-03-04 18:45:11
    62.   natepurcell
    some 2006 draft news, daniel bard is starting off the season great. his line today against purdue:
    9IP 5h 2er 1bb 13k

    line for the season:
    22IP 14H 6er 2bb 27K 2.45era

    now, i was never really a bard fan. hes always had a effortless fluid delivery and a good fb, but his control and secondary stuff was absolutely terrible last year. he did well in the cape over the summer but scouts said his slider was really inconsistent and he was helped by the amatuers adjusting to using wooden bats. either way, he has really silenced his critics so far and will rise up the draft boards drastically if he continues it.

    andrew miller pitches tomorrow.

    2006-03-04 18:45:13
    63.   Andrew Shimmin
    It's too bad Chin Feng Chen hurt his hand (?) and couldn't play in the WBC. The ESPN announcers last night said he was the best hitter on the team. Which is also too bad.
    2006-03-04 18:45:50
    64.   King of the Hobos
    49 At Abreu's age, Izzy was in AAA, 2 levels above Abreu. There's no reason to believe that Izzy couldn't do what Abreu did in Vero Beach at age 20
    2006-03-04 18:47:40
    65.   natepurcell
    dick vitale is siezuring.
    2006-03-04 18:53:36
    66.   D4P
    Speaking of JD Drew, they just showed Cal Ripken at the Duke-UNC game.
    2006-03-04 18:57:10
    67.   natepurcell
    on tony abreu

    i think hes an alberto callaspo clone. and callaspo only garnered a AAAA power bullpen arm.

    2006-03-04 18:59:02
    68.   dsfan
    49

    Agree on Abreu.

    2006-03-04 18:59:26
    69.   Uncle Miltie
    I want UNC to win for 1 reason. Dicky V is rooting for Duke. I also don't really care for any of the players in this game except Sheldon Williams. He seems like a class act.
    2006-03-04 19:01:30
    70.   ToyCannon
    I wonder who lit Lofton's pilot light from 2002-2004 when he was the epitomy of blah. Maybe Plaschke is unaware of the whining Lofton when the Yankee's wouldn't play him or does he just sweep those bad character flaws under the rug when they don't fit his story.
    2006-03-04 19:04:21
    71.   dsfan
    67

    Interesting comp on Callaspo/Abreu. Maybe Abreu will develop a little more pop than Callaspo has shown?

    Byrnes did well there, by the way. There's a buzz that the Angels could've gotten a bit more for Callaspo. AZ has pitching issues, but Byrnes seems to have a clue.

    2006-03-04 19:04:49
    72.   natepurcell
    im going to order from wing-stop. any flavor suggestions?
    2006-03-04 19:06:31
    73.   dsfan
    Pretty interesting start by Justin Upton, too. Triple in first game as a pro. Double high off the wall in the next game. Reaches base three times in third game. And he's rusty.
    2006-03-04 19:11:37
    74.   ToyCannon
    67
    Abreu is 2 years younger. Let's see what he accomplishes in the next two years before comparing him to Callaspo. Bulger is going to help the Angels, he's got a strong arm with only few IP on it since he was a 3b in college but was drafted as a pitcher even though he'd never pitched before. The Angels could afford to make this deal since they have a crapload of middle infield prospects but not very many power arms.
    2006-03-04 19:11:40
    75.   natepurcell
    brynes is doing a good job so far. ive liked almost all his moves so far.

    they still need pitching- particularly top of the rotation pitching. maybe when the marlins put up dontrelle willis for auction the dbacks could land him with a package of some of their elite positional players.

    2006-03-04 19:18:24
    76.   natepurcell
    okay i went with garlic parmeson and hawaiian. havent tried those flavors yet, hopefully i wont be dissappointed.
    2006-03-04 19:19:39
    77.   ToyCannon
    JJ or Morrison - who will have the better pro career? I've seen analyst's say that Morrison will be a top 5 pick and possibly the number one but JJ is only being mentioned as a possible 1st rounder.
    2006-03-04 19:21:46
    78.   Uncle Miltie
    77- that's a no brainer. Morrison is going to be a good pro. Redick will be a bench player. Think Eric Piatkowski.
    2006-03-04 19:22:07
    79.   ToyCannon
    If Justin Upton is as good as Callis and others say he is the Dodgers are going to be in for a world of hurt when Jackson/Quentin/Drew/Upton/Gonzales have put in a few years before free agency.
    2006-03-04 19:23:41
    80.   D4P
    It's a hole that he (Lofton) fills loudly in the clubhouse, as he is unafraid to push and prod those who aren't playing smart or hard, with a history of being the kind of enforcer that the Dodgers have been lacking.

    "I just try to put my two cents in to help the cause," he says.

    It will be baseball poetry if the Dodgers are winning.

    It will be obnoxious noise if they aren't.

    Hmmm...did Plaschke just say that chemistry is determined by winning and losing?

    2006-03-04 19:24:13
    81.   natepurcell
    i think morrison will. morrison is taller, longer and has just as good scoring instincts, if not better then reddick.

    reddick is a good college player, but i dont think he will amount to much in the nba. this years nba draft class is pretty weak though so jj might sneak into the lottery.

    2006-03-04 19:24:44
    82.   ToyCannon
    The Pike started quite a few years for my Clippers and has only become a bench player after he left. If he becomes Pike then he'll have had a successfull career. He might even be drafted right around the same time as I think Pike was a mid 1st round pick(14th or 17th).
    2006-03-04 19:26:27
    83.   natepurcell
    i dont think conor jackson and carlos quentin are going to be great players, but probably solid to good for the most part.

    i am really high on carlos gonzales and i think drew will hit but is he going to be like his brother injury wise?

    2006-03-04 19:27:43
    84.   King of the Hobos
    Speaking of middle infielders with questionable power, Hu doubled yet again
    2006-03-04 19:29:33
    85.   natepurcell
    Speaking of middle infielders with questionable power, Hu doubled yet again

    i dont really question hu's power. i think he will have enough power to be a good mlb shortstop. pecota has him hitting how many homers in his prime? 12? or something like that.

    2006-03-04 19:30:52
    86.   natepurcell
    for this upcoming year. if we get hit with the injury bug again, we should call up all our prospects by midseason and hopefully get the #1 pick in next years draft because its going to be the robert stock draft.
    2006-03-04 19:31:29
    87.   Uncle Miltie
    82- Pike averaged 26.5 minutes per game in 2000-01. His highest scoring average was in 97-98 when he averaged 11.3 PPG. Redick will likely be a top 5 pick and will certainly be a top 10 pick. Piatkowski was a great shooter in college, but nobody expected him to be a star. Dicky V acts like he's the next Ray Allen.
    2006-03-04 19:32:44
    88.   ToyCannon
    Hu should have Furcal like power which will be plenty for a SS with his glove. The question will be can he learn some patience and become really valuable.
    2006-03-04 19:37:20
    89.   ToyCannon
    87
    I haven't seen anyone claim that JJ will go in the top 5. Dicky thinks all college stars will become NBA stars. He's wrong most of the time.
    2006-03-04 19:39:55
    90.   D4P
    I walked by JJ a month or so ago on campus and he's not a big guy. He could use a little more muscle. He's a great shooter, but I would question his size and strength and his ability to defend in the NBA.
    2006-03-04 19:45:55
    91.   Uncle Miltie
    89- I think he can go top 5, but his recent play sure isn't helping him. These guys will go ahead of Redick in the draft
    Rudy Gay
    Lamarcus Aldridge
    Adam Morrison
    That one euro guy..can't remember his name right now.

    He will definitely go in the top 10 though. This draft is weak. Gay is the only guy with superstar potential who also pretty polished. Aldridge might be an all star. Morrison should be solid. Rodney Carney has great potential, but he's still a little bit raw. Teams will think that Redick will be an impact player when he enters the league. What some of them won't realize is that he's going to have a harder time getting his shot off in the pros because he's only 6'4. He's not great at creating his own shot and he's too weak to drive to the basket in the pros. He's also a below average defender and hogs the ball like Kobe Bryant even though he doesn't have an ounce of his talent.

    2006-03-04 19:56:54
    92.   natepurcell
    nice draft knowledge miltie. im a huge nfl and mlb draft junkie. basketball not so much.
    2006-03-04 20:00:19
    93.   Uncle Miltie
    You would think that Dicky V is related to Redick. He keeps making excuses for Redick. "He's mentally fatigued"
    "This isn't the JJ Redick I know"
    "He's getting a lot more double coverages"
    etc

    Dick, just admit that Redick isn't the player you thought he was.

    2006-03-04 20:03:14
    94.   D4P
    Get a TO, Baby!
    2006-03-04 20:05:33
    95.   dsfan
    79 --

    Agree that Arizona's oung positional talent is exciting. But as a franchise, Arizona's upside over the next 5-6 years is no greater than that of the LAD.

    2006-03-04 20:24:19
    96.   dsfan
    Jon,

    I agree that it's a reach by Plaschke to connect Lofton/Drew as he did. I do, however, buy the buzz out of STL and ATL that Drew's fire can wane at inopportune times.

    But I don't think that fire will require fanning this year. Remember, Drew is in something of a walk year. With Boras clients, I tend to think that's a good thing.

    Go back to Pudge's big year in 2003 that led Florida to a World Series title. Or Beltre in 2004. Or Drew in 2004. Or Beltran in 2004 (last year, Beltran appeared two gears slower, even after the sore hammy).
    I think Boras breeds a certain amount of career management into his veteran clients.

    One other thing about Drew: He has chronic patellar tendinitis. The best thin