Baseball Toaster Dodger Thoughts
Log in | Register | Help
Jon Weisman's outlet
for dealing psychologically
with the Los Angeles Dodgers
and baseball.
Hot from the Toaster
BlogAds
Search
Google Search
Web
Toaster
Dodger Thoughts
Archives

2008
08  07 
06  05  04  03  02  01 

2007
12  11  10  09  08  07 
06  05  04  03  02  01 

2006
12  11  10  09  08  07 
06  05  04  03  02  01 

2005
12  11  10  09  08  07 
06  05  04  03  02  01 

2004
12  11  10  09  08  07 
06  05  04  03  02  01 

2003
12  11  10  09  08  07 
06  05  04  03  02  01 

2002
09  08  07 
About Jon
Support Dodger Thoughts

Dodger Thoughts T-Shirts
On sale through February 16, 2008
DT Blue on WhiteDT-WhiteonBLue
Click here to order.

* * *

Cover 11.25 jpeg

The Best of Dodger Thoughts
A 325-page book featuring the top selections from this website from 2002-2005.

Click here for more information.

On Sale Now at Lulu.com

Support independent publishing: buy this book on Lulu.

* * *

Or, just make a donation to support the site. Many thanks.

"Dodger Thoughts, like TiVo, is one of those things you can completely do without until you start using it."

- Fanerman

Dodger Sites
Dodger Resources
Non-Partisan Baseball Sites
Partisan Baseball Sites
Baseball, Among Other Things
Invaluable Resources
Less Dodgers, More L.A.
All in the Family
Other Writing by Jon on the Web

SI.com
NL West Preview
Evaluating Defense
Colletti and Depo
World Baseball Classic
Minor League Broadcasters
Slow Starts
Eric Gagne
Groundball Pitchers
Dodger Prospects
Albert Pujols
Humbled Angels
You Be the Manager
Eric Gagne II
Unreliable Relievers
Revived Angels
It's Okay To Sell
Dodger Turnaround
Andre Ethier
Padres-Dodgers Showdown
NL Final Weekend
Mets-Dodgers NLDS
Postseason ratings
NL Wish Lists
Manny vs. J.D.
McGwire Controversy
Dodger Offense
Trainers Matter

Variety
Will Arnett
John C. McGinley
Laura Dern
Imelda Staunton
SAG Awards
Ellen Pompeo
Grey's Anatomy
2004-05 Rookie Dramas
Anthony Hopkins
NATPE
Scrubs
Award Shows
Topher Grace
Ashton Kutcher
Writing on Improv Shows
Rainn Wilson
T.R. Knight
Guest Actors
Animation Guests
Joey Carson and Tennis
Donald Trump and Golf
2006 Emmys Nominees*
*Comedy Series
*Comedy Director
*Comedy Writer
*Comedy Actor
*Comedy Supporting Actor
Blue's Clues
Lizzy Caplan
Ann Donahue
CMT: Giants
CMA Awards
Little Miss Sunshine
Actor-Directors
Freshman Series
Clint Eastwood
Showrunners vs. Censors
Little Children
Breaking and Entering
Tartikoff Legacy Awards
Jackie Earle Haley
Knights of Prosperity
Office Online
2007 Screenplay Noms
Friday Night Lights
Robert Benton
ABC Fridays
Rookie Actors
Global Casting
2007 Pilot Casting
Sublime Slime

Also ...
A Season in Savannah (Stanford Magazine)
Five Questions: Los Angeles Dodgers (2005) (Hardball Times)
Rick Monday (Baseball Analysts)
Baseball's Odd Couple (Baseball Prospectus)
Five Questions: Los Angeles Dodgers (2006) (Hardball Times)
Five Questions: Los Angeles Dodgers (2007) (Hardball Times)

More Shameless Self-Promotion
2008 Season

Dodger home record: 39-30 (.565)
When Jon attended: 5-3 (.625)
When Jon didn't: 34-27 (.557)

1991-2007

Dodgers at home: 745-600 (.554)
Jon attended: 293-233 (.557)*
Jon didn't: 457-374 (.550)
* includes road games attended

2008 Payroll Worksheet

Current Roster with Estimated 2008 Salaries
(updated March 28)

Most figures are estimates (some are wild estimates) but will be updated as information comes in. Corrections welcome.

More contract details here.

Starting Pitchers (5)
$12,300,000 Hiroki Kuroda
$10,000,000 Derek Lowe
$9,500,000 Brad Penny
$7,000,000 Esteban Loaiza
*$500,000 Chad Billingsley
Total: $39,300,000

Bullpen (6)
$2,000,000 Takashi Saito
$1,925,000 Joe Beimel
$1,125,000 Scott Proctor
*$500,000 Jonathan Broxton
$500,000 Chan Ho Park
*$400,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
Total: $6,450,000

Starting Lineup (8)
$14,100,000 Andruw Jones
$13,000,000 Rafael Furcal
$9,000,000 Jeff Kent
$8,500,000 Nomar Garciaparra
$8,000,000 Juan Pierre
$500,000 Russell Martin
*$400,000 James Loney
*$400,000 Matt Kemp
Total: $53,900,000

Bench (6)
$875,000 Gary Bennett
$600,000 Mark Sweeney
$424,500 Andre Ethier
$391,000 Delwyn Young
$390,000 Chin-Lung Hu
$390,000 Blake DeWitt
Total: $3,071,000

Disabled List
$12,000,000 Jason Schmidt
*$400,000 Tony Abreu
*$390,000 Andy LaRoche
Total: $12,790,000

Also Paying ...
$1,000,000 Brett Tomko
$750,000 Odalis Perez
$540,000 Yhency Brazoban
$500,000 Randy Wolf
$487,500 Jason Repko
$135,225 Rudy Seanez
$100,000 Mike Lieberthal
$50,000 Ramon Martinez
Total: $3,562,725

Working total: *$113,268,725

*Rough salary estimate

The 2008 Dodgers

ESPN BR BP Cube Alvarez
ESPN BR BP Cube Abreu
ESPN BR BP Cube Beimel
ESPN BR BP Cube Bennett
ESPN BR BP Cube Billingsley
ESPN BR BP Cube Brazoban
ESPN BR BP Cube Broxton
ESPN BR BP Cube DeWitt
ESPN BR BP Cube Ethier
ESPN BR BP Cube Furcal
ESPN BR BP Cube Garciaparra
ESPN BR BP Cube Hu
ESPN BR BP Cube Jones
ESPN BR BP Cube Kemp
ESPN BR BP Cube Kent
ESPN BR BP Cube Kuo
ESPN BR BP Cube Kuroda
ESPN BR BP Cube LaRoche
ESPN BR BP Cube Loaiza
ESPN BR BP Cube Loney
ESPN BR BP Cube Lowe
ESPN BR BP Cube Martin
ESPN BR BP Cube May
ESPN BR BP Cube McDonald
ESPN BR BP Cube Meloan
ESPN BR BP Cube Miller
ESPN BR BP Cube Orenduff
ESPN BR BP Cube Park
ESPN BR BP Cube Paul
ESPN BR BP Cube Penny
ESPN BR BP Cube Pierre
ESPN BR BP Cube Proctor
ESPN BR BP Cube Repko
ESPN BR BP Cube Saito
ESPN BR BP Cube Schmidt
ESPN BR BP Cube Stults
ESPN BR BP Cube Sweeney
ESPN BR BP Cube Troncoso
ESPN BR BP Cube Wade
ESPN BR BP Cube Young

Selected Recent Ex-Dodgers

ESPN BR BP Cube Alomar
ESPN BR BP Cube Alvarez
ESPN BR BP Cube Aybar
ESPN BR BP Cube Baez
ESPN BR BP Cube Bako
ESPN BR BP Cube Beltre
ESPN BR BP Cube Bradley
ESPN BR BP Cube Cabrera
ESPN BR BP Cube Carrara
ESPN BR BP Cube Carter
ESPN BR BP Cube Chen
ESPN BR BP Cube Choi
ESPN BR BP Cube Cora
ESPN BR BP Cube Crosby
ESPN BR BP Cube Cruz
ESPN BR BP Cube Dessens
ESPN BR BP Cube Dreifort
ESPN BR BP Cube Drew
ESPN BR BP Cube Encarnacion
ESPN BR BP Cube Edwards
ESPN BR BP Cube Erickson
ESPN BR BP Cube Falkenborg
ESPN BR BP Cube Finley
ESPN BR BP Cube Flores
ESPN BR BP Cube Gagne
ESPN BR BP Cube Grabowski
ESPN BR BP Cube Green
ESPN BR BP Cube Guzman
ESPN BR BP Cube Hanrahan
ESPN BR BP Cube Hernandez
ESPN BR BP Cube Hundley
ESPN BR BP Cube Ishii
ESPN BR BP Cube Izturis
ESPN BR BP Cube Jackson
ESPN BR BP Cube Karros
ESPN BR BP Cube Ketchner
ESPN BR BP Cube Ledee
ESPN BR BP Cube Lima
ESPN BR BP Cube Lo Duca
ESPN BR BP Cube Lofton
ESPN BR BP Cube T. Martin
ESPN BR BP Cube Mayne
ESPN BR BP Cube G. Mota
ESPN BR BP Cube Mueller
ESPN BR BP Cube Myrow
ESPN BR BP Cube Nakamura
ESPN BR BP Cube Navarro
ESPN BR BP Cube Nomo
ESPN BR BP Cube Osoria
ESPN BR BP Cube A. Perez
ESPN BR BP Cube O. Perez
ESPN BR BP Cube Phillips
ESPN BR BP Cube Proctor
ESPN BR BP Cube Roberts
ESPN BR BP Cube Robles
ESPN BR BP Cube Romano
ESPN BR BP Cube C. Ross
ESPN BR BP Cube D. Ross
ESPN BR BP Cube Sanchez
ESPN BR BP Cube Schmoll
ESPN BR BP Cube Sele
ESPN BR BP Cube Seo
ESPN BR BP Cube Shuey
ESPN BR BP Cube Stanley
ESPN BR BP Cube S. Stewart
ESPN BR BP Cube Thompson
ESPN BR BP Cube Thurston
ESPN BR BP Cube Valentin
ESPN BR BP Cube Venafro
ESPN BR BP Cube Ventura
ESPN BR BP Cube Weaver
ESPN BR BP Cube Werth
ESPN BR BP Cube Wilson
ESPN BR BP Cube Wunsch

Dodger Thoughts Land
Thank You For Not ...

1) using profanity or any euphemisms for profanity
2) personally attacking other commenters
3) baiting other commenters
4) arguing for the sake of arguing
5) discussing politics
6) using hyperbole when something less will suffice
7) using sarcasm in a way that can be misinterpreted negatively
8) making the same point over and over again
9) typing "no-hitter" or "perfect game" to describe either in progress
10) being annoyed by the existence of this list
11) commenting under the obvious influence
12) claiming your opinion isn't allowed when it's just being disagreed with

Syndication

rss2.0

Add to My Yahoo!
Echoes Chamber
2006-06-30 17:20
by Jon Weisman

Tonight's Game

* * *

Schoolteacher Ken Aven invites you to check out his first novel, Chavez Ravine Echoes. Here's the description:

Hidden beneath the vast acreage of Dodger Stadium's parking lot is an almost forgotten Mexican/American community that once thrived in the area known as Chavez Ravine. A journey to uncover the culture and vibrancy of the displaced community is embarked upon after a late night serendipitous meeting between Dodger third baseman, Joe Shapiro, and Dodger marketing assistant, Liz Reyes. Using diary pages from a young 1950s Chavez Ravine inhabitant to guide them, Shapiro and Reyes's fictionalized voyage of discovery will bring to life the fascinating truths of Chavez Ravine and the forces that conspired to destroy the community.

Advertisement
Comments (266)
Show/Hide Comments 1-50
2006-06-30 17:31:49
1.   natepurcell
I was going to place a waiver claim on weaver in the GM sim. But if Colletti is going to do that, then I don't think im going to anymore.
2006-06-30 17:32:31
2.   scareduck
The words "social justice" make me cringe, as if I'm about to see a public lynching of the first fellow with a sufficiently large wallet. In the right neighborhoods, that could be me.
2006-06-30 17:39:50
3.   Kayaker7
Hmmm...no relation to former Dodger, Bruce Aven? ;-)
2006-06-30 17:43:32
4.   Jon Weisman
3 - I noticed the similarity

2 - Way to take the harshest reading possible from the author's bio. I tend to doubt that this guy has a lifelong passion for advocating lynching.

2006-06-30 17:43:50
5.   EricGagnesGoggles
1

hahaha.

So what is Colletti on trades thus far?

1-3?

Bradley for Ethier. Base Hit

Sanchez for Seo. Swing and a miss

Jackson/Tiffany for Baez/Carter. Swing and a miss

Could Hendrickson or Weaver be strike 3?

2006-06-30 17:47:07
6.   Linkmeister
The book sounds very noir-ish.

There's a topic for the next off-day; mystery novels with baseball at least peripherally attached.

2006-06-30 17:50:04
7.   Linkmeister
It's also available (same price) from Amazon, if you've already got an account with that outfit.

http://tinyurl.com/r6xsc

No reviews yet; be the first one!

2006-06-30 17:52:31
8.   Uncle Miltie
Weaver would be a very good pickup since we probably wouldn't have to give up much. His strikeout and walk rates are almost exactly the same as last year. I've watched him pitch a lot this year and there's nothing wrong with his stuff. Weaver is giving up a ton of hits and the Angels have one of the worst defenses in baseball. I've seen a few players (especially Vlad) misjudge flyballs while Weaver is pitching and they went for extra base hits. It might not be much different with Lofton in CF though....

Anyways, Ned needs to pick up Weaver. He's an average pitcher and on this team, he'd be our 3rd best starter.

2006-06-30 17:52:52
9.   Marty
Do you know the author Jon?
2006-06-30 17:55:15
10.   EricGagnesGoggles
Smells like Ramon Martinez up in here.
2006-06-30 17:59:13
11.   Jon Weisman
9 - No.
2006-06-30 18:01:49
12.   Blu2
10 Did you know that Ramon is Nomar spelled backwards? Is there a mystery connection here?
2006-06-30 18:02:15
13.   Jon Weisman
Tonight (last night of Klimt) is perhaps the busiest I've ever seen LACMA since I've worked here.
2006-06-30 18:05:51
14.   scareduck
8 - and Figgins is inexperienced. I know of glaciers that could outrun Anderson.
2006-06-30 18:08:44
15.   Marty
Sounds like you are verKlimt.
2006-06-30 18:09:21
16.   overkill94
Why do they even have baseball on the east coast? Rain's ruining my boy Moose's no-hitter!!!
2006-06-30 18:20:34
17.   Icaros
Good lord, Marty.
2006-06-30 18:23:36
18.   Jon Weisman
Nice game for Navarro - 2 for 3, walk, 1-2 throwing out baserunners. And for those who care, his pitcher is throwing a shutout.
2006-06-30 18:24:17
19.   Jon Weisman
Edwin Jackson enters the game.
2006-06-30 18:25:22
20.   Greg Brock
16 Please, no "No hitter" talk until nine outs left.
2006-06-30 18:26:08
21.   Jon Weisman
Reminder: The words "no-hitter" are not permitted on this site to discuss a no-hitter in progress.

I have decided that "no-no" is allowed.

2006-06-30 18:26:29
22.   overkill94
argh, Mussina didn't come back to pitch after the rain delay, now he can't get the win >:0
2006-06-30 18:27:13
23.   overkill94
My bad
2006-06-30 18:27:13
24.   natepurcell
Jackson's throwing hard. 97 or so.
2006-06-30 18:27:23
25.   Greg Brock
Wait a minute, you can't jinx non-Dodger No-no's?
2006-06-30 18:28:12
26.   overkill94
Does it annoy anyone else that Jose Valentin is doing this year what we had planned for him to do last year?
2006-06-30 18:30:07
27.   Uncle Miltie
24- Baez throws 95+ and he's a proven veteran! :)

Maybe Edwin has finally found his niche as a reliever. If he can improve his control, he could be a pretty good closer.

2006-06-30 18:30:28
28.   natepurcell
what would you guys give up for Tom Gorzelanny?
2006-06-30 18:34:33
29.   D4P
Izturis batting 8th tonight? Do mine eyes deceive me?

Oh, he's still batting ahead of Martin. Never mind.

2006-06-30 18:35:20
30.   overkill94
28 Ethier and Abreu
2006-06-30 18:35:40
31.   Marty
Lineup:

Furry
Lofty
Garcy
Drewy
Kenty
Ethy
Matty
Izzy
Marty

2006-06-30 18:35:45
32.   Jon Weisman
25 - Correct.

26 - It doesn't annoy me, but I wrote a post about it early this month talking about Mueller 2006 has turned out about the same as Valentin 2005, while Valentin 2006 is what both GMs intended all along.

2006-06-30 18:35:53
33.   Icaros
Tom Gowhatsamawho?
2006-06-30 18:36:02
34.   overkill94
Ahhh, meet the old Edwin, same as the old Edwin. Single and 2 walks loads the bases with big Zim up.
2006-06-30 18:36:18
35.   natepurcell
30

I have a Guzman+ Ruggiano deal on the table.

2006-06-30 18:36:39
36.   natepurcell
30

I offered Guzman and Abreu for Cliff Lee but I haven't heard back yet.

2006-06-30 18:37:03
37.   Marty
I'd give up Mark Grudzklvklrtkl
2006-06-30 18:38:22
38.   natepurcell
Tom Gowhatsamawho?

LHP SP 2nd round 2003 draft. 23 yrs old. fb 91-95 with a plus slider. having a great year in AAA today.

2006-06-30 18:39:30
39.   overkill94
I'd do what I could to push Ethier while his value is this high. Seems you'd be selling a bit low on Guzman to trade him now.
2006-06-30 18:39:32
40.   Uncle Miltie
Just thought I'd mention that Carl Crawford has more home runs than
Jeff Kent, Nomar, JD Drew, Hank Blalock, Mark Teixeira, Barry Bonds, Scott Rolen, Bobby Abreu, Todd Helton, Chipper Jones, Jim Edmonds, Geoff Jenkins, and even Kenny Lofton
2006-06-30 18:40:15
41.   D4P
Anyone know how to spell the name of that mischievous little villainr on the "Superfriends" cartoon who used to float in the air, and who would be banished if he were to say his name backwards? IIRC, his name sounded something like

Mitzelplick

2006-06-30 18:40:32
42.   natepurcell
Ruggiano is a nonfactor for me (sorry oldbear!). So its basically Gorzy for Guzzie. Gorzy is mlb ready right now, is left handed, throws hard and doesn't walk a lot of batter.

This deal is most likely going down unless someone can give me a reasonable reason why not too in the next hour.

2006-06-30 18:40:57
43.   Icaros
38

What org is he with?

2006-06-30 18:43:00
44.   regfairfield
43 Pittsburgh, who certainly shouldn't be giving up prospects.
2006-06-30 18:43:36
45.   natepurcell
I'd do what I could to push Ethier while his value is this high. Seems you'd be selling a bit low on Guzman to trade him now.

Depends on how much you like Gorzy.

his numbers this year in the international league

2.35era 99.2IP 67H 4hr 27bb 94k

2006-06-30 18:47:03
46.   DXMachina
41 - Mr. Mxyzptlk.
2006-06-30 18:48:05
47.   natepurcell
okay.

Gorzelanny starts tomorrow for Pitt. I told the pitt GM that I'm going to have my big league scouts (you guys) take a look at him before I pull the trigger.

2006-06-30 18:50:44
48.   overkill94
47 If you want to pay for MLB extra innings so that I can watch him, I'd be glad to give you a very informative scouting report.
2006-06-30 18:51:03
49.   natepurcell
I would like opinions from ToyCannon, Dsfan and some others who are very knowledgable about prospects. The more opinions the better. My inner circle can be Ned Colletti large!
2006-06-30 18:52:04
50.   natepurcell
48

scouts pay for their own traveling expenses. Come, Frank is our owner.

Show/Hide Comments 51-100
2006-06-30 18:53:24
51.   D4P
50
They don't call him "McCheap" and "McBankrupt" for nothing...
2006-06-30 18:55:42
52.   Woody
Need to have Jeff Weaver back. We have no guys who look like psychos on the team this year and it would make things more interesting.

Must say that my Red Sox affinity may take over again soon (have that rocky New England soil in my blood) if things don't pick up around here. This team ain't goin' nowhere as is.

2006-06-30 18:56:46
53.   Icaros
I'm fond of McStupid.
2006-06-30 19:01:43
54.   Greg S
Given that we have as high a payroll as ever and the stadium has seen tens of millions in renovations, what exactly is it that leads everybody to call McCourt "cheap" (let alone backrupt)?
2006-06-30 19:02:53
55.   Icaros
54

That's what I've been saying for two years.

2006-06-30 19:04:36
56.   StolenMonkey86
54 - Who played third base last year?
2006-06-30 19:06:21
57.   natepurcell
excellent. Hendrickson kept his beard. He will dominate for us for the rest of the year.
2006-06-30 19:06:45
58.   natepurcell
Argh, why isn't Ethier in the lineup? Seriously,..why not?
2006-06-30 19:07:06
59.   Greg S
56 That explains why McCourt is cheap??? The total payroll and expenditures are eclipsed by a single roster choice? Given the way things ended up playing out, don't you think that might have been a certain GM and not the owner?
2006-06-30 19:07:41
60.   D4P
53-4
I agree. Stupid is more appropriate than cheap.
2006-06-30 19:09:25
61.   Steve
60 -- Except when it came to third base last year, when stupid and cheap came together to save us from half a decade of fruitlessness.
2006-06-30 19:09:32
62.   natepurcell
Oops I'm blind. Ethier is playing. Joy to the world!
2006-06-30 19:12:41
63.   Steve
This is going to be one of those Grabowski Principle games -- Season Edition.
2006-06-30 19:13:50
64.   natepurcell
That looked like a gapper. Thanks for getting my hopes up camera man!
2006-06-30 19:14:48
65.   Marty
Vlad seems to have a noticeble limp.
2006-06-30 19:14:54
66.   Greg S
First four batters have all hit the ball hard
2006-06-30 19:15:34
67.   Uncle Miltie
Another selfish at bat by Kent
2006-06-30 19:16:07
68.   Steve
I'm not sure how many runs we actually have to score off of Colon to get the GP monkey off our backs. Six? Eight? Ten? Nice of Kent to miss that meat fastball.
2006-06-30 19:17:27
69.   Uncle Miltie
Tracy talk
Does Hendrickson suck? Probably. Does he have an awesome beard? Absolutely.
2006-06-30 19:18:11
70.   Sam DC
Nationals Nation says "well, when better to announce this than on the heels of an 11-1 drubbing by the Devil Rays"

http://tinyurl.com/l8rnq

2006-06-30 19:18:40
71.   Gagne55
What is the Grabowski principle? That less than worthless players get playing time?
2006-06-30 19:19:11
72.   Icaros
Some of us are forced to watch this game via Angels broadcast.

Hurts.

2006-06-30 19:20:55
73.   Gagne55
Vin Scully > Rex Hudler
2006-06-30 19:20:58
74.   Marty
Icaros, give the Wonder Dog our love.
2006-06-30 19:22:57
75.   scareduck
70 -

"Jim is very smart," Kasten said last night at RFK Stadium. "By smart, I mean analytical. I love that. I also think he's very resourceful. . . . And right now, as we're building this -- needing to speed the process up as quickly as we can, needing to shave any unnecessary steps -- I need someone resourceful. I think Jim is really good at that."

Amazing. Just amazing.

2006-06-30 19:24:11
76.   scareduck
72 - for those of us who also follow the Angels (i.e., me), it means we get to hear Vinny call an Angels game. For six times a season or so, Rex The Paid Homer is somewhere else.
2006-06-30 19:25:32
77.   scareduck
71 -

http://6-4-2.blogspot.com/2005/05/fishslapped-by-grabowski-principle.html

2006-06-30 19:26:13
78.   Icaros
Kent and Anderson play dueling morons in the first.
2006-06-30 19:26:59
79.   natepurcell
78

is that the same tune the dueling banjos izzy and furcal play?

2006-06-30 19:27:27
80.   Greg S
77 So did Penny's throw to first nearly qualify?
2006-06-30 19:28:49
81.   StolenMonkey86
So the first out of the first inning involved the defense of an Izturis for each club.
2006-06-30 19:30:11
82.   natepurcell
Great AB by Kemp. Layed off that 3rd slider which I thought he would swing at.
2006-06-30 19:31:12
83.   Greg S
82 Wouldn't have been such a great ab if it had been called a strike!
2006-06-30 19:32:01
84.   Sam DC
So Kasten has had this incredible honeymoon. And he -- and Boswell -- keep saying, build from within, follow the Braves model, invest in the farm. Then people say, look at Florida, that's the smart way to do it. But I get the sense people think that that means a rough year or two and then it's division championships and playoffs galore. Easy.

But lots of teams notionally try and build this way, and for many it just doesn't work. And starting where the Nationals are starting is a far cry from Florida trading a slew of All Stars for premium prospects.

Could be long and ugly here in DC if you ask me.

2006-06-30 19:32:29
85.   natepurcell
82

Yea but it was off the plate and was called a ball.

2006-06-30 19:32:33
86.   Greg S
Isn't in prounouced "May-cee-er" and not "Mice-ee-er"?
I don't follow the Angels that closely.
2006-06-30 19:34:45
87.   scareduck
80 - no.
2006-06-30 19:34:53
88.   Greg S
Betting question of the night: How long before Penny erases that "A" on the back of the mound?
2006-06-30 19:36:34
89.   scareduck
I get the impression that these are two very similar pitchers having similar kinds of games at the moment.
2006-06-30 19:36:34
90.   StolenMonkey86
Nice speed by Kemp there. Long AB by Cesar too.
2006-06-30 19:37:54
91.   Gen3Blue
I hope it occurs to the D's that they are on the way to making Colon throw too many pitches. I was surprised to see Martin swing at the first pitch, but I like the result. Great at bat for Izzy.
2006-06-30 19:38:09
92.   natepurcell
Mariners just offered me Gil Meche, a pitcher who has a 3.75 era this year for Joel Hanrahan.

Say hello to your newest Dodger fellas.

2006-06-30 19:38:29
93.   Marty
Nice eye by Furry.
2006-06-30 19:44:49
94.   Jon Weisman
91 - Martin was compensating for his game-ending strikeout Wednesday on a five-ball, seven-strike pitch (according to Gameday).
2006-06-30 19:47:11
95.   Sam DC
Who's the Carl Crawford groupie, again? Because it was a big night in Crawfordville (3-4, 2 2R HRs).
2006-06-30 19:48:21
96.   Steve
I thought they DFAed Jeff Weaver
2006-06-30 19:48:31
97.   scareduck
Dodger fans, thank your lucky stars that the Angels feature a man who needs a walker in left.
2006-06-30 19:49:13
98.   scareduck
96 - it was called "depth" when they started the season...
2006-06-30 19:49:38
99.   Gen3Blue
Funny, these guys couldn't hit a nickel against Minnesota.
2006-06-30 19:51:01
100.   scareduck
Did anyone tell Colon batting practice was over?
Show/Hide Comments 101-150
2006-06-30 19:51:15
101.   Greg S
I'm goint to assume there is a scouting report on Colon reagarding his first pitch and that the Dodgers read it.
2006-06-30 19:51:40
102.   DXMachina
Lot of selfish hitting going on.
2006-06-30 19:52:04
103.   Steve
101 -- It's really the second, third, and fourth pitch too. I mean, how long did it take to see that Colon had nothing? Three pitches in the first inning?
2006-06-30 19:52:44
104.   ninjavshippo
FINALLY: something to cheer about.

This guy won the Cy Young recently, didn't he?

2006-06-30 19:53:17
105.   scareduck
His "fastball" is clocking in at 91 MPH. He's still not well.
2006-06-30 19:53:32
106.   Sam DC
Kansas City has a pitcher named Jimmy Gobble.

Sounds like he should be pitching in a random game callback.

2006-06-30 19:54:09
107.   scareduck
The Angels just DFA'd the wrong starting pitcher.
2006-06-30 19:54:17
108.   Uncle Miltie
This umpire is screwing Kemp
2006-06-30 19:55:27
109.   Uncle Miltie
95- me, see post 40
2006-06-30 19:55:39
110.   Marty
Colon can still get Isturis out.
2006-06-30 19:55:43
111.   Sam DC
Gobble strikes out Edmonds. If he gets to stick around, he'll face Pujols to start the bottom of the ninth.
2006-06-30 19:56:21
112.   Jon Weisman
My son is crying is eyes out because his mean old man wouldn't let him wash his hands a second time.

He cares not for the woes of Weaver nor the cares of Colon.

2006-06-30 19:57:19
113.   Steve
This is a Super Colon Blow.
2006-06-30 19:58:23
114.   Greg Brock
113 Nice obscure SNL reference.
2006-06-30 19:58:50
115.   Greg S
The Angels are crying their eyes out beause of what it's going to cost them to wash their hands of Weaver, leaving them with Colon.
2006-06-30 20:00:04
116.   StolenMonkey86
Just after I commented on Cesar's long AB he's out on the first pitch.

Bartolo for Odalis?

2006-06-30 20:01:29
117.   DXMachina
Bartolo for Odalis?

An exchange of FTOGs?

2006-06-30 20:01:31
118.   Greg S
Penny's breaking ball is filthy tonight.
2006-06-30 20:02:02
119.   natepurcell
116

have you seen Colon's contract?

04:$9M, 05:$8M, 06:$12M, 07:$14M

2006-06-30 20:02:12
120.   DXMachina
Or should that be FTsOG?
2006-06-30 20:02:45
121.   D4P
113
How many bowls of Total does it take to match the fiber in one bowl of Super Colon Bowl?
2006-06-30 20:02:52
122.   confucius
13 What about during King Tut, or did you not work there then?
2006-06-30 20:03:57
123.   Steve
119 -- That joke is not going to be that obscure by 2007.
2006-06-30 20:04:54
124.   natepurcell
nice play furry.
2006-06-30 20:06:00
125.   DXMachina
121 - Isn't it about the same as the number of dollars in Colon's contract?
2006-06-30 20:06:27
126.   scareduck
115 - They're used to it; $14M for Appier, most of the $8M they owed Alfonzo, Esteban Yan. It's been a bad year for FA signings under the Halo.
2006-06-30 20:06:46
127.   confucius
108 No kidding. Kemp shows a little too much body language though. Umpires do not find that complimentary.
2006-06-30 20:09:01
128.   Uncle Miltie
Great play by Furcal.

I'd rather release Odalis than have to watch Fartolo pitch for the Dodgers.

2006-06-30 20:09:23
129.   Jon Weisman
122 - King Tut last year might have been this busy. But I don't know if it was busier. Klimt, Hockney and Friday Night Jazz tonight just filled the plaza, wall-to-wall.
2006-06-30 20:11:07
130.   StolenMonkey86
Well with Colon, the Dodgers can DL him. I just hope that we don't put the trainers on the DL with overwork.
2006-06-30 20:11:17
131.   scareduck
Tucson posting a 6-1 lead in the fourth.
2006-06-30 20:12:23
132.   Jon Weisman
Our progress toward the four-way tie for first in the NL West is looking good.
2006-06-30 20:13:13
133.   Goozmani
to: the idea that batting average is luck.

isn't it safe to say, that as much times the hitter gets lucky, he is unlucky.

2006-06-30 20:14:54
134.   Sam DC
Elmer Dessens v. Pujols, tied game, bottom of the ninth (Gobble apparently not an innings eater).
2006-06-30 20:17:36
135.   Sam DC
Pujols wins (single).
2006-06-30 20:17:43
136.   Uncle Miltie
That pitch was hit hard, but I think an average defensive center fielder catches that.
2006-06-30 20:18:33
137.   Jon Weisman
136 - At least there'd be hope.
2006-06-30 20:18:33
138.   Greg Brock
Lofton takes more bad routes than the Donner Party. Gadzooks.
2006-06-30 20:19:28
139.   Sam DC
Rolen ground out moves Pujols to second. Elmer WPs Pujols to third. Encarnacion gets the (I assume) rare intentional walk.
2006-06-30 20:20:31
140.   confucius
136 An average baby catches that.
2006-06-30 20:21:06
141.   Sam DC
Meanwhile Chan Ho Park v. Barry Bonds in SD.
2006-06-30 20:23:22
142.   Sam DC
Chan Ho wins!

In St. Louis, Elmer intentionally loads the bases then gives way to Ambiorix Burgos v. pinch hitter Scott Spezio, one out.

2006-06-30 20:24:02
143.   confucius
Tony Gwynn says "most of the time the (radar) guns are wrong."

Then how does he know if they are ever right?

2006-06-30 20:28:40
144.   Sam DC
Good stuff. Spezio runs the count full then Ks. Aaron Miles up with bases loaded, 2 outs, tie game, bottom nine, in St. L.
</