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Rocky Mountain High - Ten Years Later
2006-09-17 06:56
by Jon Weisman

September 17, 1996

Los Angeles Dodgers   IP     H   R  ER  BB  SO  HR
Nomo W(16-10)          9     0   0   0   4   8   0

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September 17, 2006

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2006-09-17 09:07:07
1.   Andrew Shimmin
Another reason to dislike Woody Williams (if one were necessary): Steve Phillips likes him.
2006-09-17 09:17:14
2.   Eric Enders
Wow, the Times had five reporters at the game yesterday. Not that I'm complaining, but here was that kind of coverage during the DePo era?
2006-09-17 09:19:11
3.   Jon Weisman
2 - I think it was planned for the anniversary celebration.

But yes, as the season wound down in 2004, there was plenty of coverage.

2006-09-17 09:19:52
4.   Andrew Shimmin
Moral of the story: if you're trying to break in to someone else's myspace account, try cookie123, first.

http://tinyurl.com/g6ldf

2006-09-17 09:20:46
5.   Eric Enders
2 I meant where was, not here was. Although with that typo I actually ended up answering my own question inadvertently.
2006-09-17 09:35:55
6.   Bob Timmermann
Probably helped that UCLA was off Saturday too.

Looks like there at least five reporters at the Coliseum too for the USC game.

2006-09-17 09:40:22
7.   scareduck
I seem to recall that there was a thunderstorm that had just passed through or was in the area, cooling the air a bit. I've always wondered if a local low pressure front had changed the game's outcome.
2006-09-17 09:45:24
8.   Bob Timmermann
The bad weather helped Nomo, but it didn't seem to do much for Bill Swift.
2006-09-17 11:09:03
9.   bhsportsguy
Furcal, SS
Lofton, CF
Lugo, 2B
Kent, 1B
Drew, RF
Betemit, 3B
Ethier, LF
Martin, C
Lowe, P

The one thing that is comparable to that faithful day in 1996, both Nomo and Lowe started the day with 15 wins.

2006-09-17 11:16:45
10.   Sam DC
Today's trivia question from RFK stadium. - what is the only college w/a bear themed mascot to win the college world series?

Well-pitched through four by Doug Davis.

2006-09-17 11:22:19
11.   Bob Timmermann
10
Cal.
2006-09-17 11:26:42
12.   Bob Timmermann
How many MVPs of the College World Series are currently playing in the majors now?
2006-09-17 11:26:45
13.   Linkmeister
"a bear-themed mascot"

The Koalas? The Sun Bears?

2006-09-17 11:27:58
14.   Greg S
Was sitting behind home plate in the lodge last night. Got to talk to Russell Martin, Sr again but unfortunately, that was the highlight. Billingsley looked bad enough to get pulled from the rotation. Not just the results, bad results can come from ok pitching. I don't think I'd trust him in another start this year. I'd rather see any of our other choices. Or couldn't we get away with a 4-man from here on out, especially since nobody goes more than 6-7 anyway?
2006-09-17 11:30:43
15.   Bob Timmermann
13
They're trying to get you to guess UCLA.

And I can tell you about UCLA's dismal record in Omaha. They've only been there twice and went 0-2 each time.

One of life's mysteries is why USC, CS Fullerton, Long Beach State, Pepperdine, Loyola Marymount, and CS Northridge have had pretty good baseball programs and UCLA usually scrapes the bottom of the barrel. And the program produces good players too. But they stink as a team.

I'm looking at you Gary Adams.

2006-09-17 11:32:46
16.   Bob Timmermann
The Tigers have rallied from a 5-1 deficit against the Orioles thanks in part to a 3-run double by Neifi Perez.

At least he's batting ninth.

2006-09-17 11:49:38
17.   regfairfield
Ryan Howard hits number 57, Phillies up 3-0 in the third.
2006-09-17 11:53:45
18.   the OZ
15 Be nice to Gary Adams.

At his retirement party, his former players made up Gary Adams bobbleheads. When one player made a quick speech, he commented that he hadn't known the bobbleheads were going to be life-sized.

Gary is kind of short.

2006-09-17 11:57:47
19.   Bob Timmermann
18
Did Al Scates and John Wooden come to the retirement party and taunt Gary Adams by wheeling in a bunch of NCAA championship trophies to taunt him?
2006-09-17 11:59:04
20.   dzzrtRatt
Pedro Guerrero looks a lot smaller in the photo in today's Times (which I haven't yet found online.) Especially his head.

I met him once when he was with the Dodgers. He was the size of a grizzly bear.

The photo also identifies Bill Russell, but almost completely crops him out. All you can see is the back of his head.

2006-09-17 12:04:26
21.   Bob Timmermann
Was Jack Perconte at the reunion? Pepe Frias? Dave Goltz?

Granted it was an abbreviated season, but the 1981 Dodgers used just 13 pitchers all year.
The Dodgers have used 21 pitchers this year.

2006-09-17 12:08:56
22.   xaphor
21. I recall the first two; a negative on Goltz.
2006-09-17 12:09:08
23.   Greg Brock
Yeah, Bob, but Gary Adams was teaching valuable life lessons and creating major league players.

Don't go trying to infuse that winning stuff into life lessons.

2006-09-17 12:12:23
24.   Greg S
I misspoke (typed) about what the highlight of last night was.
The pregame ceremony was something special, the most special of any pregame ceremony I have ever seen. And Jack Perconte was there!
You can go to the Dodger website and see a video of the whole thing.
http://tinyurl.com/z78cq
2006-09-17 12:15:14
25.   Eric Enders
14 I suppose this is the appropriate place for a warning about the pitfalls of judging a pitcher with an otherwise excellent record, based on exactly one inning of performance. Particularly when the pitcher in quesiton, going into that game, had the lowest ERA in the National League after the all-star break.

I also notice that I have disagreed with a rather large number of Greg's posts in recent days... Greg, I hope you know it's nothing personal.

2006-09-17 12:17:14
26.   Bob Timmermann
25
As long as you don't ask him about his business. Never ask Greg S about his business.
2006-09-17 12:17:47
27.   Linkmeister
Doesn't look like anyone answered the RFK trivia question. I'm guessing the Maine Black Bears.

Sam?

2006-09-17 12:18:06
28.   Eric Enders
15 "And the program produces good players too."

Eric Karros and Todd Zeile thank you for your generosity of spirit.

2006-09-17 12:19:05
29.   Eric Enders
27 Bob answered today's trivia question lightning-quick. He appears to still be flailing about on yesterday's, though.
2006-09-17 12:20:07
30.   Bob Timmermann
27

Trust me, the answer was Cal. They've won twice including the very first CWS in 1947 when they beat Yale, which featured first baseman George Bush.

2006-09-17 12:20:51
31.   Bob Timmermann
29
I lost track yesterday when it got very hectic at work and I actually had to use my brain for good, and not evil.
2006-09-17 12:20:55
32.   Greg Brock
Has Baylor ever won a NC?
2006-09-17 12:21:44
33.   Eric Enders
12 Todd Walker and Huston Street, I think. Windsor's a September callup. I'm sure there are others. I'm an alumnus and I can't even remember whether Clemens won in '83. I'm guessing he did.
2006-09-17 12:21:46
34.   JoeyP
Lugo in the 3-spot is a lineup killer.
What is Grady's rationale for batting his worst hitter 3rd in the lineup?
2006-09-17 12:22:37
35.   Eric Enders
32 No. Not much pitching between Ted Lyons and Jason Jennings.

Plus, it's Baylor.

2006-09-17 12:22:50
36.   Bob Timmermann
Baylor has won NCAA championships in two sports:

men's tennis
women's basketball

I did not know that off the top of my head. But rather happened to have this nifty site open.

http://tinyurl.com/255ry

2006-09-17 12:23:41
37.   Bob Timmermann
33
Calvin Schiraldi was the MVP in 1983.

One of the MVPs will be playing at Dodger Stadium today.

2006-09-17 12:23:45
38.   Marty
I stood next to Guerrero in a Dodger Stadium elevator sometime when he was playing and he seemed gigantic.
2006-09-17 12:24:36
39.   Eric Enders
36
Southern California: 73
UCLA: 70
Stanford: 57
Oklahoma State: 48
Arkansas: 43
Michigan: 30
Yale: 25
Indiana: 23
California: 22
Iowa: 21
UTEP: 21

[stands back admiringly]

2006-09-17 12:25:14
40.   Eric Enders
"One of the MVPs will be playing at Dodger Stadium today."

Didn't I get that one already? Or is there another?

2006-09-17 12:26:47
41.   Bob Timmermann
39

UTEP is still waiting for a women's title however.

UCLA is planning a big celebration for the 100th overall national champion. They actually have won 100, but they were stripped of one softball championship because they used an Australian pitcher, Tanya Harding, pretty much like a ringer. I don't know if she ever passed a class.

2006-09-17 12:27:19
42.   Greg S
25 Not taken personally! I come here for the good friendly discussion, not necessarily for any immediate agreement.
I hope I have proven myself to be somebody who doesn't quickly jump at first reactions. I even defended Tomko the other day! And Bills' number since All-Star break are imperssive. But much like Kemp who was hitting .360 with an OPS of a million in June, I'm very afraid that Bills' numbers betray the truth. I think he has a very serious problem with control. He can't throw strikes at will let alone hit spots. His stuff is Major League. His command is douleb A.
And last night, his stuff wasn't even there. Did you see his curveball (I mean attempted curveball)? I think that, also like Kemp, the league has figured him out. Like today's LAT said. Just let him dig his own hole by not swinging and wait for him to pipe one.
Letting him learn and grow is all well and good. Just not in September with the season on the line.
2006-09-17 12:27:26
43.   still bevens
34 Someone commenting on the Inside the Dodgers blog noted the team was 9-2 when Lugo is in the 3 hole. True story.
2006-09-17 12:28:01
44.   Bob Timmermann
40
Never mind. Walker, Street, and Windsor are three of them.

There are four more.

2006-09-17 12:29:17
45.   Bob Timmermann
44
And Eric got one of the two September callups and he got the one who hasn't played since being called up. The other one has played a bit.
2006-09-17 12:30:39
46.   Eric Enders
Is Phil Nevin's corpse still on somebody's roster?
2006-09-17 12:30:39
47.   still bevens
42 I attribute Billinglsey's lack of command due to not pitching for awhile. Nate was commenting yesterday about how much he worried about Billsingley losing his groove and I think his fears were warranted. As far as the league figuring him out is concerned, I dont think the 'take some pitches' approach tactic used by Bochy last night is limited only to Chad. Im sure they'll have the same approach to Penny on Monday. Might involve fouling off more pitches, but somewhat similar.
2006-09-17 12:31:21
48.   Bob Timmermann
Phil Nevin is starting at first base for the Twins today.
2006-09-17 12:33:14
49.   Bob Timmermann
Of the three remaining CWS MVPs, two of them are playing against each other today.
2006-09-17 12:35:44
50.   Greg S
47 Right. Problem is that it will actually work with Chad because he has so little command of his pitches. Eric, I did go back and look at his game log since All-Star break and it is more impressive than I would have thought. But watching the guy is hard. He really does lack major league command and control and he is a time bomb on the mound. But I will agree that that record may warrant more patience than I am showing. I am conflicted!
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2006-09-17 12:36:35
51.   Eric Enders
I'm running out of guesses here... I'll say Marshall McDougall because I know he won it but I'm doubtful as to whether he's in the majors. I guess he could be the September callup.
2006-09-17 12:37:44
52.   regfairfield
50 Prior to this, Bills had walked three guys in his last three starts. Maybe it was a fluke, but it seemed like his control was improving.
2006-09-17 12:38:02
53.   Bob Timmermann
Charlton Jimerson
Pat Burrell
Mark Kotsay
2006-09-17 12:40:46
54.   Eric Enders
50 I totally see what you're saying. However, when we begin to judge pitchers based on how they look rather than how they pitch, I think we're asking for trouble. I mercifully missed last night's game due to a tivo malfunction, but I have no doubt that Billingsley looked as awful as you say he did. I just have doubts about how relevant that actually is. Some days you've got it, and some days you don't. Billingsley has "had it" more days than not.
2006-09-17 12:41:23
55.   Eric Enders
Totally spaced on Kotsay. The other two I wouldn't have gotten.
2006-09-17 12:52:47
56.   Bob Timmermann
No champagne popped for the Yankees today as the Blue Jays have won.

The Mets are looking to be swept in Pittsburgh.

2006-09-17 12:54:36
57.   Eric Enders
I'm going to keep tossing this hanging curveball up to the plate until somebody hits it out:

Mark Lemke
Devon White
Mark Sweeney
Keith Lockhart
Mike Piazza
Jay Bell
Kenny Lofton
Jorge Posada
Edgar Renteria
Orlando Palmeiro

2006-09-17 12:55:07
58.   Bob Timmermann
Carlos Zambrano has hit his fifth home run of the season today.
2006-09-17 12:57:03
59.   Eric Enders
58 So he has more homers than one-third of our starting lineup today.
2006-09-17 12:59:32
60.   Greg Brock
57 Game winning hits in a WS? grasping at straws here.
2006-09-17 13:00:17
61.   Bob Timmermann
Cardinals and Giants rained out. I suppose it will be made up only if it affects the pennant race.
2006-09-17 13:01:22
62.   Greg Brock
Final out of a WS?
2006-09-17 13:01:22
63.   Bob Timmermann
57
2-run sacrifice flies?
2006-09-17 13:02:04
64.   Greg Brock
Ooooh, Bob and I broke the space-time continuum
2006-09-17 13:03:07
65.   Bob Timmermann
I believe our not very good first base prospect has the right answer.
2006-09-17 13:05:29
66.   Eric Enders
62 Got it. Those players have made the final out of the last 10 baseball seasons.
2006-09-17 13:07:34
67.   Greg Brock
66 I win!

Gimme somethin'

2006-09-17 13:08:12
68.   Bob Timmermann
Pirates finish off the sweep of the Mets.

Bucs 3, Mets 0.

2006-09-17 13:09:15
69.   bhsportsguy
Is anyone seeing the Seattle vs. KC game on Prime Ticket?
2006-09-17 13:09:21
70.   Eric Enders
67 Well, I do have an autographed postcard sitting here in front of me. It's postmarked 1984 and it says "To Eric, a future Dodger, from Greg Brock."
2006-09-17 13:09:41
71.   joekings
69- That's what I'm seeing as well...did the time or channel get switched?
2006-09-17 13:11:15
72.   bhsportsguy
71 Its been on for a while, not sure what is going on.
2006-09-17 13:11:21
73.   Bob Timmermann
69
In Southern California, Dave Roberts steps up to the plate against Derek Lowe on Prime Ticket.
2006-09-17 13:11:57
74.   xaphor
Prime has the Dodgers on where I am. (Time Warner West Valley)
2006-09-17 13:12:06
75.   Greg Brock
70 The irony is staggering
2006-09-17 13:12:30
76.   still bevens
Im getting the KC game too and I live in Culver City. Urge to kill rising...
2006-09-17 13:12:32
77.   Bob Timmermann
I don't think sightings of John Wooden are all that rare. For a 97-year old man, he gets out a lot.
2006-09-17 13:12:49
78.   joekings
I'm on Time Warner in Lakewood, this is bizarre.
2006-09-17 13:12:53
79.   bhsportsguy
73 I'm in So Cal, at least I was when I woke up this morning.
2006-09-17 13:13:58
80.   Bob Timmermann
79
To be precise, I'm using Time Warner San Marino/South Pasadena.
2006-09-17 13:14:34
81.   bhsportsguy
76 What part of Culver City, east or west of Tito's Tacos?
2006-09-17 13:15:08
82.   Bob Timmermann
Ooh, an attempted sacrifice by the #3 hitter. Bruce Bochy pulling out a page of Japanese baseball strategy.
2006-09-17 13:16:57
83.   still bevens
East of titos
2006-09-17 13:19:44
84.   Bob Timmermann
Coincidentally, I live east of Tito's.

I think Eric Enders too.

Linkmeister lives to the west of Tito's.

2006-09-17 13:20:31
85.   Eric Enders
82 Hopefully he didn't literally pull the page out. I'd like him to be able to use it again.
2006-09-17 13:20:32
86.   Bob Timmermann
I have a death warrant ready to go on the Griddle. Just a few more outs.
2006-09-17 13:21:46
87.   still bevens
Are we going to have to endure this entire game or what? Im debating driving to a sports bar somewhere.
2006-09-17 13:21:48
88.   Andrew Shimmin
I live 200 feet below Tito's. In a Land Cruiser. For some reason.
2006-09-17 13:22:31
89.   Eric Enders
I am Tito. Top that.
2006-09-17 13:23:06
90.   bhsportsguy
87 Me too, but then won't they all have football on.
2006-09-17 13:25:23
91.   Bob Timmermann
Can't you call your cable company and yell.

Loudly.

I believe Time Warner always has someone at 1 888 TW CABLE or something like that.

2006-09-17 13:25:42
92.   still bevens
90 That bit didnt make it into my post, but should have.

The only place Im sure will have it is the last place I want to go - Barneys Beanery on the Promenade.

2006-09-17 13:28:16
93.   regfairfield
Never noticed Chris Young has the Danys Baez delivery.
2006-09-17 13:28:23
94.   xaphor
92. You can go to the Fox & Hounds British pub in studio city. I guarantee the bar maid has the game on.
2006-09-17 13:29:28
95.   joekings
91- I tried calling and got a message saying they were handling too many calls and to call back later. Quite helpful.
2006-09-17 13:30:02
96.   Eric Enders
93 Throw it as hard as you can and then snap your head around to look at the bleachers?
2006-09-17 13:30:21
97.   Andrew Shimmin
89- Tito--I am your father.
2006-09-17 13:30:50
98.   bhsportsguy
I just spoke to a Time Warner customer rep, she said they have informed Fox Sports about the game (she said to me, is this about the Dodger game) and it is up to them to change the feed.
2006-09-17 13:31:29
99.   bhsportsguy
Since a commercial just came on right in the middle of the KC/Seattle game, I am guessing that the switch has been made.
2006-09-17 13:31:40
100.   Uncle Miltie
I really dislike Skip Carey. He think the Braves are going to win the game just because the winning run is coming to the plate. Wilber got a lucky a bloop single.
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2006-09-17 13:32:27
101.   bhsportsguy
I was wrong.
2006-09-17 13:32:32
102.   Uncle Miltie
Hanley Ramirez just made an error. The Marlins defense looks awful.
2006-09-17 13:33:33
103.   Bob Timmermann
The death warrant I had prepared has been cancelled.
2006-09-17 13:33:34
104.   bhsportsguy
Okay, can we get a survey of where the game is on so I can figure out where to go.

I know it is off in the Westside. But it is on in Pasadena.

2006-09-17 13:34:41
105.   joekings
98- I still have the mariners game on mine.
2006-09-17 13:35:00
106.   Uncle Miltie
Another error, Braves win. Braves score 5 runs in the 9th inning thanks to some really terrible defense. Carey is acting like the Braves just won the World Series.
2006-09-17 13:39:26
107.   Linkmeister
Considering Honolulu is about the same latitude as Mexico City, I'm also south of Tito's Tacos.

We've had the Dodgers game on with no trouble on Prime Ticket since it began out here.

2006-09-17 13:39:28
108.   Bob Timmermann
Actually, the death warrant I have prepapred can still be issued today.
2006-09-17 13:44:08
109.   Gen3Blue
D's Game on Extra Innings(DTV) in
Massachusetts.
2006-09-17 13:46:12
110.   Gen3Blue
This Young hasn't lost a road game in 22 cons. starts? Does'nt sound good.
2006-09-17 13:47:23
111.   Greg S
It's on here in West LA but on DirecTV. Both on Prime Ticket and on Extra Innings.
2006-09-17 13:51:03
112.   Gen3Blue
Nice play Lugo, after looking like a dime store indian on play before.
2006-09-17 13:51:43
113.   Marty
It's on in Altadena. On Charter cable
2006-09-17 13:51:55
114.   Greg S
I was in SD for the series in late April. I knew a rookie was pitching but didn't know his name. After about 5 innings of the Dodgers flailing I said to the guy next to me "the Dodgers are making this guy look like Cy Young". When he came to the plate in the next inning, he was up on the board and listed as "C. Young". For just a minute I had that feeling of complete confusion. True story. Stupid story but true story.
2006-09-17 13:51:55
115.   Bob Timmermann
The odd thing about Young's record on the road is that he started off pitching in one of the best hitter's parks in the majors (Texas) and then moved to one of the best pitcher's parks (San Diego).

Last year with Texas, his home/road splits weren't too much different. This year his ERA is over 2 runs better on the road than at PETCO.

Go figure.

2006-09-17 13:52:32
116.   Bob Timmermann
The safety net is less secure. Philadelphia beats Houston 5-3.
2006-09-17 13:52:50
117.   Bob Timmermann
Just add one run to each team's totals there.
2006-09-17 13:55:25
118.   Bob Timmermann
Dead team walking on the Griddle.
2006-09-17 13:55:56
119.   bhsportsguy
That Roger Clemens deal really worked out for Houston.
2006-09-17 13:57:53
120.   regfairfield
Chris Young provides a counter point to the "tall pitchers need a mullet to be successful" therom.
2006-09-17 14:00:17
121.   joekings
It's finally on here in Lakewood.
2006-09-17 14:03:52
122.   schoffle
For those in the Culver City area watching the Seattle game (on Fox sports Northwest for some unknown reason), apparently rebooting (i.e. unplugging your cable box for a min) will restore fox sports west. And no, customer service is not answering the phone.
2006-09-17 14:07:48
123.   Bob Timmermann
Who's kidnapped the Dodgers regular pitchers and replaced them with guys who get strikeouts?
2006-09-17 14:10:02
124.   Greg S
However, when we begin to judge pitchers based on how they look rather than how they pitch, I think we're asking for trouble

I am judging Bills on how he has pitched, not how he looks doing it. He actually seems to have great mechanics. But he can't locate his pitches. I'm frankly shocked at the success he has had so far and I guess it is a credit to his usual stuff. He looked awful last night but it was only a slight exaggeration of his usual wildness and the Padres being patient. I'll agree that his success is the most important determiner of his deserving another start but boy, does he scare me.

2006-09-17 14:10:44
125.   Bob Timmermann
By the way, Seattle leads KC 10-5 in the 9th.
2006-09-17 14:13:23
126.   Bob Timmermann
One day we will judge pitchers not by how they look, but by the content of their character.

I have a dream!

2006-09-17 14:14:20
127.   MMSMikey
kent is done. hes got nothing left.
2006-09-17 14:15:10
128.   Greg S
126 Careful Bob. Don't go outside your motel room!
2006-09-17 14:16:51
129.   bhsportsguy
Okay, that's a first, for me. The old drop ball trick.
2006-09-17 14:17:54
130.   Greg S
Now it's time for their rookie to look like a rookie.
2006-09-17 14: