If I live another 65 years (I'll book bets against that), I'll never forgive Little for letting Lugo (Pewwwgo) hit after 4 homers in a row. Kemp should have been up there flailing for all he's worth with the Forces of the Universe aligned as they were... Five would have been a record that would probably never be broken.
Hope this isn't a letdown game. Last night either gave us a ton of momentum, or it was draining, y'know what I mean? And the Pirates just swept the Mets, but the CW here says that might've been because NY wanted to clinch at Shea. For whatever that's worth.
FMLMKK has not let more than 3 minutes pass into the pregame show without mentioning that he was a manager, in the majors, minors, and winter leagues. He says it's only in his top 5 or 6 that he's seen.
I swear, if something should happen to Grady, FMLMKK had better not be on the short list.
I just watched the replay from the "Monday Miracle" and I have a souvenir! After the 1-1 pitch to Nomar in the 10th, they cut to a shot of Lofton leading off and in the background are only two people in the shot: My friend Phil on the left and 'ol Greg S. on the right. I can prove to my grandkids I was there! (I expect them to be a cynical bunch)
I saw a shot of Jim Tracy on my TV and I totally spaz-panicked, thinking "How are the Dodgers going to win with Jim Trac...oh. He's managing the Pirates. Phew."
42- my mom's friend has it recorded, but she's not sure if it can transfer to a dvd. If it does, I'll get you a copy- just reimburse me for the dvd and shipping. This is one game that I want to watch over and over again since I wasn't able to catch it live.
I thought that pitch to JD was low. He does strike out looking a lot though. It would be nice if the umpires actually gave him the benefit of doubt that he knows the strike zone.
I have MLB Extra Innings and the Red Sox / Twins game cut into the beginning so I missed the opening montage covering the miraculous events of last night. What did people think of it? Song choice?
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There was no fat on that game to trim. I wouldn't mind having the whole thing myself. Let me know if you can't get the whole thing and I'd be happy to send you the short version.
Any rebroadcast or retransmission of the accounts and transcripts of this game without the express written consent of the Commissioner of baseball or the Los Angeles Dodgers, LLC, is strictly prohibited.
It's fair use to buy the game, in the crappy format they sell it. It's not fair use to run off copies, at cost, even though that's a much better way to watch the thing. It's dumb, if the Dodgers don't figure out some way of making the game available. And I'm not saying I, necessarily, disapprove of ignoring dumb rules, in some situations. I'm just saying, if we turn this comments section into a pirate alcove (on the International Talk Like a Pirate Day, no less), that could have real world, unpleasant consequences.
They had a clip of Grady on the pre-game show talking about the most amazing game he'd been involved in and he mentioned a game I remember (at least the arc) and watched later on ESPN Classic. It was from '01 and Seattle got out to a 14-2 lead by the 7th or 8th and the Indians, for whom Grady was coaching, came back and won, 15-14 I guess? He mentioned that a number of players from last night's game were in that game. Calculating in my head, I thought Sele, Lofton....ummmmmm....and that was it.
Xavier Nady is the winner of this season's Ed Lynch Award, given to the player exiled from a playoff-bound Mets team.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/lynched01.shtml
Jimbo ruined Jose Castillo. Earlier in the year, it looked like Castillo was on pace for .280/20 HR season. Then he went into a slump like a lot of young players do, but instead of letting him play through it, Jimbo started favoring the mediocre veterans. Grits is a doing a similar thing with Ethier this month.
92- yea, Grits does have the "need the proven veterans in September excuse". Not a very good one, but better than what Jimbo did. Jimbo is supposed to be developing these young players; instead he is hindering their progress.
"Hong-Chih Kuo hits a sacrifice bunt. Wilson Betemit to 2nd. Hong-Chih Kuo to 1st."
Yet there is no error and no out. Second time in two consecutive games I have seen that call. I don't like it. If a guy hits a HR with a runner on third, they don't call it a "sacrifice fly." If a guy hits a sacrifice bunt and fails (runner out at second), they don't call it a sacrifice bunt. Both of those with good reason. So a guy attempts to sacrifice but something (other than an error) allows him to reach first and he is not creditted with a hit. Seems stupid to me.
So when will Lofton realize that swinging at the first pitch and hitting a ground ball is not a good idea with a double play situation? Does it have to be 30 DPs? Darn, how many double plays has he hit into this year?
So when will Lofton realize that swinging at the first pitch and hitting a ground ball is not a good idea with a double play situation? Does it have to be 30 DPs? Darn, how many double plays has he hit into this year?
To underestate last night...wow. I live in the Mid-South, so I was asleep last night when the earth stopped cold. My cousin called me freaking out, saying "Tell me you saw that game!". He proceeded to give me a pitch-by-pitch account of the game from the sixth inning on. I almost cried.
Today I broke down and bought MLB extra innings for the final two weeks of the season. For $49.95 I get fewer than 14 games.
Can I afford the purchase? Hardly.
Can I afford to miss another game in these final two weeks? Not on your life.
102 As long as the official scorer decides that the batter would be out had the fielder tried to get him at first, it's gonna be a fielder's choice whether an out is recorded or not.
Great Vinny story about Duncan. Don't know if they showed it on TV, but when Peavy went back in the dugout, he was livid. A bunch of teammates actually surrounded him trying to calm him which went on for quite a while.
102 See 10.09(b). It's not an error because, in the scorer's judgement, there's no mishandling of the ball: No muffed catch, no mis-throw. It's just throwing to the wrong base.
101 There is no way to predict when someone hitting above themselves will stop, so it is always a mistake to "play the hot hand" when that "hot hand" has an established level of play inferior to another player's established level of play. Even though it is easy to establish that a lot of Ethier's performance this year was based on luck, even regressing that performance to account for that luck shows a much better player than Anderson's long establish ability.
117 True in cards. Not so true with human performance. Ethier's stuggles are not events based on statistical probability. They're based on dynamic, changing, observable factors.
119 Ok then, What about this situation:
Runner on second, sharp base hit into center. Centerfielder charges, picks up the ball, overthrows the cuttoff in an attempt to get the runner at home. The runner scores because the catcher can't apply the tag in time, and the batter runner ends up on second. Scoring?
110 Jim Tracy: Well I made the decision to remove the pitcher because ARRRRRRRRRRRR it appeared he had reached a threshold ARRRRRRRRRRRRRR and so at that time ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR it did not seem appropriate ARRRRRRRRRRR etc etc etc.....
104 14. Not the most on the Dodgers (Martin), but close. A couple of them have come recently and in RISP situtatinos with the game tied, so they are probably sticking out more in your memory.
there was a blurb in my school newspaper about it being pirate day. apparently you are suppose to use pick up lines with girls like "they dont call me long john silver because of my beard... eh eh (wink wink nudge nudge).
127- do you think the Dodgers made a mistake passing over Lincecum? People up here are comparing him to Tim Hudson (more build wise) and Pedro Martinez. I'd still take Kershaw because I think he'll be a better pitcher in the longterm. While Lincecum does throw 98+, his build is almost identical to mine, which is not good for a major league starting pitcher. I think he'll end up being a reliever, albeit a dominating one.
Haha… Jose Mesa just hit another Giants player! The Giants announcers are furious.
Marlon's just going through one of those phases where he sees the ball better, is probably concentrating better...you definitely play out a hot streak because it involves real mental processes that are heightened IMO.
that helps the pitch count. Anyone remember what Kuo's highest pitch count is this season? To get 7 innings out of him he'd probably have to throw 100.
147 If I were at work, I'd just post a list of links I have saved that pretty well demonstrate that there is no predictive value a "hot streak." Of course, in retrospect, you always want to "play out" a hot streak, but since you have no way of knowing when the random luck generating the "hot streak" (or, if you prefer, the "better seeing" or "better concentration") will end how can you possibly use it for the basis of a decision?
This issue is further complicated by the need to have substantial sample size to know anything about performance. Let's assume you are right, and something "real" (e.g. not just luck), such as better concentration, is resulting in Anderson's hot streak. Since you have no idea when that will end and Marlon will return to his normally poor play, when do you stop playing him? After he goes 1-4 for a game? How does one game tell you anything "real?" Or 4 games, or 20? How do you decide when the hot streak has "played out?"
Add on top of that, since he is not playing, how do you know Ethier is not currently on a "hot streak?" He is sitting on the bench. Maybe he has the best concentration of his life right now, but his "hot streak" is unseen in favor of Anderson's.
I remember posting this a couple months ago and someone (Brock? was that you?) had trouble getting it to play. I would suggest the "WATCH THIS MOVIE!" link right next to that 14-2:
if there's a downside to last night, it's that I will now hesitate to go to bed at a decent hour even if the Dodgers are down 8-1 heading into the 7th inning.
No bluebleeder, I HATED that move before that terrible pitch, why would you take out a guy who was pitching so well, but has had just a little bad luck go against him?
And gee, GREAT way to validate that miracle win last night. C'mon, how can you be that bad against the Pirates, Cubs, and Brewers in the same span? UH!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah nice way to keep "momentum" going, and show that there would no let down.
Since we came back from 4 runs down for the first time last night, how about coming back from 5 runs tonight. With the way the flyballs are flying out of the stadium, another miracle could happen tonight.
Okay, I officially give up on tonight's game. I feel pretty confident about our chances in the next 2 games though. Chacon is a bum and Youman isn't much of a prospect. Billingsley needs to return to form, however.
As someone was saying above, our relief pitching seems abominable now.
But our relief, especially middle, has been off and on terrible ever since we traded or let go all are good ones, and then lost Gagne. But relievers do have their ups and downs. It is not the place to put any money or big trades or you get a Baez and a Hamulack. The last time we were OK was 2004.
I wish there was a way to score defensively in baseball, like a safety in football... for example, repko dotting a guy in the back while trying to stretch a double into a triple from CF could be worth a 1/2 run or something.
Why the heck would you bring Beimel in right now? He seems to be our only reliable middle reliever at this point, why trot him out there for the third day in a row during a lost cause?
225227 Have you read the FOX Sports scouting report on Lugo?
From the same:
"Hitting
One of Lugo's biggest problems is trying too hard to come up with big hits, often jumping at pitches and swinging for the fences. He made strides to correct that, nearly tripling his number of doubles while hitting less than half as many home runs as the year before. When Lugo stays within his game, he can spray the ball around the field with enough power to hit it into the gaps. He also has the speed and ability to scratch his way onto base with bunts and infield hits."
Yep, that's who he ought to be, a line drive hitter with power to the alleys. I've been wondering, since the trade, whether management here has given him the same talk that he received in Tampa Bay. When I remarked a month or so ago, re him finding it in the middle of the '04 season, well, his finding it was his learning to stay within himself. Compare his '03 numbers with '04 and '05. '06 in Tampa was "weird", since he regressed back into the hit the homer and not so many doubles mode, yet he was still hitting .308, with an OBP of .373. I think that the success with BA and OBP allowed himto regress back to where he was in '03, and we see that now that he's facing more than a few pitchers that he hasn't seen before, i.e., he should have some dropoff initially, but not this much.
293 - agreed, we won't make it far with these gas cans in the pen, but as i read here a few months ago, a playoff appearance is worth a lot of dough. more dough = better starting pitching next year? at least i hope.
the aquisitions of lugo and betemit really havent panned out, betemit has hit a few bombs, but other than that really nothing. and lugos 8 RBI's arent enough to make up for giving up a top prospect.
293 I would think it would be kind of a shame to take this team into the playoffs, but I think most of the teams in the playoffs will have very mediocre relief.
This evolution of pitching in the last few decades baffles me.
The thing with Marlon Anderson, is that I'm not really that surprised when he hits homers because he swings as hard as any Dodgers since Gary Sheffield.
I'm just wondering why he's never been a HR hitter, considering how hard he swings.
Maybe he's a late bloomer?
A really late bloomer.
Still, its amazing what Marlon has done.
honestly, help me understand. How was it a good idea to load the bases before bringing in Elmer Dessens?
Double play, schmubble play it's loading the bases for Elmer Dessens. A slam is unpredictable, but it looked like trouble from the start.
I know Nady had given us trouble early, but strategy-wise Paulino has been hitting over .300 lately.
I don't know if he should have stayed with Kuo longer - Kuo was really struggling at that point. The problem is the kind of options the Dodgers have in the bullpen in that kind of situation right now. None of them are particularly thrilling and even the guys we've liked all season are slumping a little bit now. So you're right that the pen looks overworked, but I'm not sure Grady had much choice in pulling Kuo then.
Oh well, no sense in dwelling on this one too much. But they need to get their act together for the last two of this series.
I also think they dont want Kuo throwing a whole lot of pitches. He was taken out around 90 his last two starts, probably will be taken out around the same count the next couple times.
339 Dessens is allegedly a ground ball pitcher. I stress allegedly.
Overworked pen? Starting with his Sept. 10th appearance against the Cubs, Dessens had thrown 10 pitches before tonight. Tomko threw 13 pitches last night, 23 on the 14th and 15 on the 12th against the Cubs. In contrast, Beimel threw 13 pitches last night, and 15 the night before. Seems to me that Mr. Overworked was Beimel, but yet he got his man.
Perhaps it's their better relievers who are "overworked" - or at least a little tired - and the lesser ones are not overworked so much as undertalented.
Maybe with more rest they can become more talented!
I have not done the stats, but one of the problems the Dodgers started with way back in May was the use of middle relief. When our starters were not able/prevented from going more than six innings and we had to bring in middle relief early and then had to bring in our other relivers, I do believe that it catches up with you. Going back to the games in Milwaukee and Chicago just recently the middle bullpen has not been effective and of course even some of our late bullpen recently has not been that good. I wondered when we called people up why we didn't call up Osoria, he pitched at times good last year, and might he have been able to buy us some more innings.....Go Maddux
337 - Should be but the Dodgers are never ones to go by the book or what's expected.
I'll be at the game tomorrow, one night after a stinker by our middle relief. We really need Maddux to keep the pitch count low and go 7 maybe 8 to rest our overworked pen. For tomorrow, I would only want to see Saito in the 9th with a lead. Dessens and Tomko should be given a one way ticket out of town. A big letdown! Guys better get it together and fast. We need even a moderate 5 game streak right now just to get our heads straight.
Our other problem tonight is The Blue let Snell wriggle off the hook early. They had a chance to put a hurtin on the Bucs early but failed to get a key hit. Marlon, for one of the few times didn't deliver in the first, Lofton hitting into a DP on the first pitch with 1st and 3rd and 1 out. Since Snell was struggling with control, why not take a pitch or two to see if Raffy can steal second to stay out of a DP then the grounder may pick up a run.
The only cool thing about tonight's game, my pal and were sitting by the LF fair pole on the field level and as they were playing yesterday's highlights, it got to Russ's at bat in the 9th and he was standing in LF while Kuo was long tossing, he didn't look up at first but then he did as he hit the ball, everyone gave him a cheer, he smiled, waved and went back to work.
How does SD bounce right back with a win VS a team that has given them trouble and we get bombed by the Piarates. Frustrating team. 4 games in September Tomko has cost us- STOP USING HIM!!!!! Its time to make the starters go deeper. Maddux can throw > 65 pitches. He needs to b/c the bullpen is horrible right now.
350. I don't know of any way to "make" a starter go deeper. There are those who criticize Little for not yanking a starter sooner. It's a no-win situation. Let's face it, the pitching staff is weak and unreliable right down the line. This is not a playoff caliber pitching staff.
I think the Dodgers and Padres will both hold serve Wednesday night.
But Thursday is likely to be another moving day as the Dodgers should have an edge facing a rookie pitcher for Pittsburgh while the Padres are facing Brandon Webb.
This, of course, means that none of those events will happen.
Kevin Kennedy did.
That's "former major league manager" Kevin Kennedy. Or otherwise, FMLMKK
Lofton, CF
Nomar, 1B
Kent, 2B
Drew, RF
Martin, C
Anderson, LF
Betemit, 3B
Kuo, P
i'd just thought to post the line up again. no changes from yesterday's line up.
I swear, if something should happen to Grady, FMLMKK had better not be on the short list.
The D-Backs are sending out this lineup in SD
Counsell
O-Dog
Gonzalez
Byrnes
Tracy
Jackson
Quentin
Snyder
Pitchers are Livan Hernandez vs. Clay Hensley
"The heat is on ..."
Phillies 4, Cubs 1 - Final.
123 inning.
Since he used to live there, he loves it when players from there are up in the bigs. Vin thinks Jack Wilson and Mike Lieberthal are the greatest guys.
i thought Trace was a good man & a desent manager.
9 or 10 million maybe but not 13 mill.IMO.
whats the 2 hour version?
so they basically cut out the best parts of the game? :)
then MLB should make a dvd of the game with fancy packaging.
There was no fat on that game to trim. I wouldn't mind having the whole thing myself. Let me know if you can't get the whole thing and I'd be happy to send you the short version.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/lynched01.shtml
Next week we will tackle the topic of patent infringement.
If you want to discuss the architectural copyright protection act of 1990, I'm your man.
thank for helping us out Livan
Meanwhile, San Diego leads Arizona 4-0 in the 2nd. Deja vu?
I like my samples small when I want to bend the truth to my will!
But at least Little has a chance to go to the playoffs. I'm not sure what Tracy's motivations were.
Especialy after yesterday's performance.
Yet there is no error and no out. Second time in two consecutive games I have seen that call. I don't like it. If a guy hits a HR with a runner on third, they don't call it a "sacrifice fly." If a guy hits a sacrifice bunt and fails (runner out at second), they don't call it a sacrifice bunt. Both of those with good reason. So a guy attempts to sacrifice but something (other than an error) allows him to reach first and he is not creditted with a hit. Seems stupid to me.
So when will Lofton realize that swinging at the first pitch and hitting a ground ball is not a good idea with a double play situation? Does it have to be 30 DPs? Darn, how many double plays has he hit into this year?
So when will Lofton realize that swinging at the first pitch and hitting a ground ball is not a good idea with a double play situation? Does it have to be 30 DPs? Darn, how many double plays has he hit into this year?
i just hope Ethier dons't become one of those great before the all-star & bad after the all-star.
Today I broke down and bought MLB extra innings for the final two weeks of the season. For $49.95 I get fewer than 14 games.
Can I afford the purchase? Hardly.
Can I afford to miss another game in these final two weeks? Not on your life.
yeah but what did Duncan say? kind of a jip if you ask me.
id rather get lincecum. not the biggest fan of sanchez.
Runner on second, sharp base hit into center. Centerfielder charges, picks up the ball, overthrows the cuttoff in an attempt to get the runner at home. The runner scores because the catcher can't apply the tag in time, and the batter runner ends up on second. Scoring?
Awesome.
there was a blurb in my school newspaper about it being pirate day. apparently you are suppose to use pick up lines with girls like "they dont call me long john silver because of my beard... eh eh (wink wink nudge nudge).
im just the messenger.
Haha… Jose Mesa just hit another Giants player! The Giants announcers are furious.
Of course, I suppose most pitchers are better when they have control of the fastball.
no, kershaw was the right choice. i also think lincecum's lack of control will eventually catch up to him.
plunk, is my first thought thinking of them.
he's also making alot of pitches.
The only two that are not "clutching up" are former Dodgers Piazza and Roberts.
(underbruin, xeifrank... i have trade proposals for you!)
This issue is further complicated by the need to have substantial sample size to know anything about performance. Let's assume you are right, and something "real" (e.g. not just luck), such as better concentration, is resulting in Anderson's hot streak. Since you have no idea when that will end and Marlon will return to his normally poor play, when do you stop playing him? After he goes 1-4 for a game? How does one game tell you anything "real?" Or 4 games, or 20? How do you decide when the hot streak has "played out?"
Add on top of that, since he is not playing, how do you know Ethier is not currently on a "hot streak?" He is sitting on the bench. Maybe he has the best concentration of his life right now, but his "hot streak" is unseen in favor of Anderson's.
Anyone ever hit a HR on a GROUND ball?
Seems like they'd just say player homers to whatever field...
With some kind of provision for rare inside-the-park ones.
Stay tuned to this channel for other very relevant remarks.....(maybe)
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161 - Barry Bonds had a "hot streak" that lasted from 2001 to 2004 though.
We've watched his recent at bats.
But nothing like last night. Boom Boom Boom Boom.
But once I found it, hooray!
There's only so many times you can cash in your chips with the baseball gods.
I cut Jose Bautista from my fantasy team on sunday.
Then tonite happens.
It never fails.
And gee, GREAT way to validate that miracle win last night. C'mon, how can you be that bad against the Pirates, Cubs, and Brewers in the same span? UH!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah nice way to keep "momentum" going, and show that there would no let down.
Good K numbers, low walks.
Pretty efficient.
But against the Buccos/Cubs the last two times out, so exuberance can be at least somewhat tempered.
i stand by my comment.
Humph.
i see you're point though, but still we have no middle relief.
Oh well, we know not to give up til it's over, too.
Too bad the DBacks aren't helping.
well, its not over till it is,etc.
I'd like to see a Loney appearance, too.
A day off today would have been nice - I'd have taken a DH tomorrow. The league is mean!
We'll get 'em tomorrow.
Say it with me.
Brett Tomko.
sigh...
LWLWLWLWLWLLW(?)
has .500 ball ever felt so agonizing?
He's a bad pitcher overall, but this is getting to Carrara levels of futility.
Ian Snell is the Buccos best pitcher and he has been pretty good this year. Its not a shock to lose this one.
But the next two the Dodgers need to win, barring another miracle comeback.
But our relief, especially middle, has been off and on terrible ever since we traded or let go all are good ones, and then lost Gagne. But relievers do have their ups and downs. It is not the place to put any money or big trades or you get a Baez and a Hamulack. The last time we were OK was 2004.
I wonder how often teams have exchanged first place in a division this late in the year? It's quite unusual I think.
When's the last time the Dodgers gave up 10+ runs in back-back games?
Wait, you meant he pitches poorly...
We definitely got lathered up by the pain brush tonight.
0.2 IP, 4H, 4R, 1ER, 1K.
glad grittle finally got up to rinse off the pain brush.
Though him as are reliable one make me shudder.
From the same:
"Hitting
One of Lugo's biggest problems is trying too hard to come up with big hits, often jumping at pitches and swinging for the fences. He made strides to correct that, nearly tripling his number of doubles while hitting less than half as many home runs as the year before. When Lugo stays within his game, he can spray the ball around the field with enough power to hit it into the gaps. He also has the speed and ability to scratch his way onto base with bunts and infield hits."
Yep, that's who he ought to be, a line drive hitter with power to the alleys. I've been wondering, since the trade, whether management here has given him the same talk that he received in Tampa Bay. When I remarked a month or so ago, re him finding it in the middle of the '04 season, well, his finding it was his learning to stay within himself. Compare his '03 numbers with '04 and '05. '06 in Tampa was "weird", since he regressed back into the hit the homer and not so many doubles mode, yet he was still hitting .308, with an OBP of .373. I think that the success with BA and OBP allowed himto regress back to where he was in '03, and we see that now that he's facing more than a few pitchers that he hasn't seen before, i.e., he should have some dropoff initially, but not this much.
Who wants to buy him a bus ticket out of town?
I find that a bit much, but 15-20 million per series would not be an unrealistic dollar amount to me
But it's tempting because I'm bored with this game.
Think I'll watch the Simpsons now with an eye on Gameday, y'know, just in case.
This evolution of pitching in the last few decades baffles me.
Thanks.
I'm just wondering why he's never been a HR hitter, considering how hard he swings.
Maybe he's a late bloomer?
A really late bloomer.
Still, its amazing what Marlon has done.
Plus we face Chacon!
Think happy thoughts, people.
I'm not sure I have the fortitude for the next 2 weeks guys. I... I.. may need therapy.
Youman vs Billingsley.
These two should be wins.
Just root for the Cubs tomorrow.
Double play, schmubble play it's loading the bases for Elmer Dessens. A slam is unpredictable, but it looked like trouble from the start.
I know Nady had given us trouble early, but strategy-wise Paulino has been hitting over .300 lately.
Oh well, no sense in dwelling on this one too much. But they need to get their act together for the last two of this series.
339 Dessens is allegedly a ground ball pitcher. I stress allegedly.
Maybe with more rest they can become more talented!
I'll be at the game tomorrow, one night after a stinker by our middle relief. We really need Maddux to keep the pitch count low and go 7 maybe 8 to rest our overworked pen. For tomorrow, I would only want to see Saito in the 9th with a lead. Dessens and Tomko should be given a one way ticket out of town. A big letdown! Guys better get it together and fast. We need even a moderate 5 game streak right now just to get our heads straight.
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But Thursday is likely to be another moving day as the Dodgers should have an edge facing a rookie pitcher for Pittsburgh while the Padres are facing Brandon Webb.
This, of course, means that none of those events will happen.
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