Okay, probably not.

WWSH

I don't feel much of a sting from our exit as it was fully deserved. To beat the Mets we had to play to our capabilities and we didn't hence the Mets were able to get by relatively cheaply. If anything the tables are now turned and the Mets must realize that the level of play that got them past us is not going to bare fruit against the Cardinals.

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gringos i tell ya! ;o)

anybody but NY!!

I have thought about several orgs. I have worked for, and in every case several people on the D's would have been fired immediately. I will think about this.

Will the Mets and Cards both outscore the Raiders?

what's a Raiders?

it's that bad, wow.

Just ONE thing resulting in ONE more Dodger win would have meant playing St. Louis in the first round.

Who knows what might have happened then? Yeah, the Dodgers were 0for the season vs. the Cards. So we probably were due....

still not smoking Andrew?

Which is more than I can say for some people.

By "The Office" I assume you mean "Becker"

"I don't like strikeouts," he said. "I'd give up home runs for (fewer) strikeouts."

We had the 4th fewest K's in the league- 15th in HR- need an OF. I smell a trading partner. Ethier + ____ = Dunn?

Trading 30 HRs for 125 Ks (plus more since you're proposing a package) is just not a good idea. Especially when Ethier and Dunn had an identical OBP and were only .013 apart on SLG. Not to mention a .074 difference in batting average.

If I were so inclined, I would just pour the free liquor and get ready for the flight home.

do you say free liquor!

I disagree. Striking out requires a minimum of 3 pitches from the pitcher, often more. Guys like Dunn who strike out a lot and walk a lot force the pitcher to throw a lot of pitches, which helps tire the pitcher out faster and helps Dunn's teammates see the pitcher's repertoire. Dunn is routinely among the league leaders in P/PA, and has a career average of 4.24

Seeing a lot of pitches (even if you strike out) may not get a fancy productive out name like "Olney," but it can make a positive contribution nonetheless.

40 Hr's, 100 walks, right around 100 rbi's, every year.

I think I'm the only guy here in a UCLA sweatshirt that's done yeoman duty on this trip and a Team South Africa Cap.

Go Fighters!!

if we did get Dunn & his K's i'd be banned from Dodger thoughts for cursing to much.

The only downside is that Bob might not get to see another run at the LOB record.

57 - the home runs are impressive, sure, but the Dodgers proved this year that you don't need them to win. And while he goes for 40 HRs, 100 BB, and 100 RBIs (a number that is inflated because of his 40 HRs), he's a career .245 hitter and has had more strikeouts than hits every season of his career.

Not directly, but long ABs likely have a positive impact on scoring runs later in the game. If you only compare strikeouts to other kinds of outs (e.g. groundouts and flyouts) and conclude that the latter are unambiguously better than the former, without also looking at P/PA, you are likely missing an important aspect of the whole picture.

Taking 10 pitches to strikeout may very well be more "productive" than grounding out on the first pitch.

I don't think we should give up too much for him, but if Colletti can use his dumpster diving predilection for good, instead of evil, why not?

Hafner
Ortiz
Giambi
Beltran
Howard
Thome
Pujols
Man Ram
Berkman
Dunn

Most of these characters make $15-19M and/or are 30+. And this is Dunn in an off year. Last year he was 2nd in the majors.

For the strikeout haters- here are the top 10 this year in K's:

Dunn
Howard
Granderson
Hall
Soriano
Bay
Sexson
Sizemore
Peralta
Swisher

Again hardly an unproductive bunch. Howard is only a week younger than Dunn. Did anyone complain about his 181 K's this year?

Unless, you're playing devil's advocate, in which case, you're still wrong, because Dunn mashes.

Ethier hit .360 on balls in play this year. Dunn hit .278. So this discrepancy would only get wider. In 2005 Dunn put up 7.5 RC/27 sandwiched between Cabrera and Berkman at 16th in the majors. The guy is instant offense. Bat him 5th behind Drew/Kent and let him mash.

In other words, increasing Ks has no effect on runs scored, and decreasing Ks has no effect on runs scored. They appear to be independent of one another.

Nomar (6.5) - fewest k's
Pierre (4.8)
LoDuca (5.4)
T Walker (5.3)
Eckstein (4.5)
Hatteberg (6.2)
Lofton (5.3)
Johjima (5.2)
Vidro (4.8)
Pujols! (9.9)

i wouldn't give up some top notch rook pitchers for him.

You also have to factor in the one swing, three runs that a masher like Dunn provides. I really don't care if somebody thinks a bases empty single is better than a walk. It's not.

productive outs don't exist to you Xeifank?

IMO he's a legit power bat

As far as OBP goes, I must admit, I'm still rather new to understanding a lot of the more "non-traditional" stats (I know what they mean) but I don't know what's poor/average/good. Is a career .380 OBP really that good? More importantly, looking at the trend line, Dunn's OBP has been slipping since he became a full time player (his .400 OBP year he only played 116 games instead of the 160 he's averaged the rest of the way).

By the way, I heard a rumor that only one of the eight teams in the playoffs this year had a park factor over 1.00. No points for guessing which one.

However, if you strike out, you can't ground into a double play, which is far more costly at .839 runs. So, if a guy strikes out 150 less times, but grounds into 10 more double plays (which seems likely) then they've cancelled each other out. So, overall, I'd say both types of outs are about the same in the end.

Dunn's batting average fluctuates a lot, but his peripherals are pretty strong. This was an off year for him. Could be the beginning of the end, or it could just be an off year.

#9: J.D. Drew 21 (near his career year)
#10 Adam Dunn 20 (in a down year)

Is his 1B defense anywhere near as bad? How bad is Loney's LF?

I hope so.

metric schmetric trust your baseball mojo.

Using the assumption that BABIP should be .120+line drive percentage, his BABIP should have been .355, not .278. He actually had far more line drives this year, than in years past. If you just assume that those hits would have been singles, Dunn's line improves to .276/.399/.532. Since it's Adam Dunn, there's probably more doubles in there, to improve the slugging.

SABR vs. Metric Schmetric

I'm assuming you're talking about Ethier.