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*$500,000 Chad Billingsley
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*$400,000 James Loney
*$400,000 Matt Kemp
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$600,000 Mark Sweeney
$424,500 Andre Ethier
$391,000 Delwyn Young
$390,000 Chin-Lung Hu
$390,000 Blake DeWitt
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*$390,000 Andy LaRoche
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If I Were a Rich Man ... Oh Wait, I Am
2007-02-16 18:04
by Jon Weisman

Check out this bit about longshot roster candidate Matt White, from Ken Gurnick at MLB.com:

White is a 29-year-old left-handed journeyman pitcher in camp on a Minor League contract who's pitched a total of 9 2/3 Major League innings in nine professional seasons and he's sitting on a gold mine.

Actually, it's a rock quarry.

Four years ago, White bought a 50-acre piece of property in Massachusetts from his ailing Aunt Josephine, who was going into a nursing home. He planned to build a house on the property, but discovered it to be absolutely covered with rock. A geologist determined the property was loaded with mica schist, a slate-like shiny metamorphic stone used for patio decks and other construction.

"I never built the house and instead started selling the rock," said White, whose father runs the business. "It turned out to be a blessing in disguise. The geologist said I've got 24 million tons of it and it sells for $100 a ton."

So, according to White's math, he's sitting on a $2.4 billion mountain of rock. That's billion, with a "B." The property cost him $50,000.

P.S. This is Seo just. Hurray!

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2007-02-16 18:16:29
1.   still bevens
Wow its amazing that he also had the mineral rights to the property as well. Lots of companies snap those up unbeknownst to the people who buy the property.
2007-02-16 18:53:46
2.   dianagramr
Great story .....

"My name is Matthew J. White ... billionaire. I own a fastball and some rock."

2007-02-16 18:57:31
3.   Vishal
hah, maybe matt could buy the dodgers and guarantee himself a roster spot. he'd probably be a better owner than mccourt ;)
2007-02-16 19:09:35
4.   ToyCannon
Even cooler is that he often gets confused with the other Matt White who was a free agent millionare ala Travis Lee. Who would have bet when they were both 20 that the lousy Matt White would be the multi-millionare and the man with the golden arm is still trying to live off the original bonus contract.
2007-02-16 19:30:20
5.   Andrew Shimmin
I wonder what the margin on mica schist is. Moving a ton of rock from where ever it is to somewhere else has to be pretty expensive. Deburns, if you're going to ST anyway, maybe you could try to get an interview. Throw Jon's name around, if you have to.
2007-02-16 19:35:40
6.   Jon Weisman
Forget the interview. Buddy, can you spend a ton of geological gold?
2007-02-16 19:42:22
7.   CanuckDodger
Ah, mineral rights. In Canada, those belong to the government. The entire premise of The Beverly Hillbillies would be invalid up here.
2007-02-16 20:03:28
8.   Andrew Shimmin
6- There can't be a cost effective way of shipping 2,000 pounds of a hundred dollars worth of rocks across country. And, according to this site:

http://www.reade.com/Particle_Briefings/spec_gra2.html

a ton of broken mica would be twenty cubic feet. I think your neighbors would complain if you parked that in your driveway. And how would you dispose of it? It's not like Homer's pile of sugar, where you could at least sell the bees it lured back to the bee industrial complex.

I just don't think you've thought this through.

2007-02-16 20:05:34
9.   Bob Timmermann
7
And what part of Canada do use for "The Beverly Hillbillies" knockoff?

Do you have Newfoundlanders moving to Toronto after they hit it rich by unexpectedly finding out that large schools of cod have made it back to the Grand Banks?

2007-02-16 20:31:25
10.   LAT
I don't think there could be a Canadian equal to Mr. Drysdale. That kind of unbridled Captialism is frowned upon in the Great White North.
2007-02-16 21:25:38
11.   Andrew Shimmin
Tony Jackson, charter member of the Oscar Robles Marching and Chowder Society.

http://www.insidesocal.com/mlb/archives/2007/02/day_2_recap.html

2007-02-16 22:14:31
12.   scareduck
A friend of mine who grew up in shirtsleeves in one of Boston's tonier sections inhabited, for a time, a mansion built by a former mica baron who made his fortune with the stuff. The entire house was decorated with fancy mica inlays. The former owners lost their shirts when the Depression hit. I guess the market for the stuff can be relatively volatile.

5 - Warren Buffett loves rock quarries for exactly that reason. Rocks are expensive to transport. Unless you're talking about building materials with wide application (i.e., slate), usually the competition is limited by the cost of diesel, how close you are to a railhead, etc. Competition tends to be self-limiting.

2007-02-16 22:26:36
13.   scareduck
One reason the stuff might be so valuable: mica schist used to be used as foundation material in New York up through the 30's but then ceased. I wonder that local sources dried up.
2007-02-16 22:34:05
14.   deburns
Wow!I am constantly amazed at the breadth of knowledge of DT posters (and not just Timmermann). Mica schist!! Now I know where to go for information on almost anything. Who needs Google when you have DT?
2007-02-16 23:21:03
15.   Xeifrank
Friends of Dodger Thoughts Yahoo fantasy baseball leagues have been created. I made one Roto 5x5, using the same categories as last year (replacing Ave with OPS) and a 5x5 H2H league. Email me if you'd like the password info to join. All reasonable live draft times were taken, so I will change the draft time when Yahoo opens up more draft times. So ignore the current draft date and time for now.
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2007-02-17 05:36:25
16.   Sam DC
Catching a break: Randolph said he intends to help outfielder Moises Alou stay healthy by limiting his playing time as he limited that of catcher Paul Lo Duca last year.

Noted without JD Drew-related comment.

2007-02-17 08:38:51
17.   Bob Timmermann
JD and Paul are gone, man. They're not coming back. We just have to let go.

It's a brave new Gonzo world.

2007-02-17 08:58:41
18.   Greg Brock
Hubert Davis and Jay Bilas pick Arizona, and Digger Phelps picks the Bruins.

I don't know how to feel about that.

2007-02-17 09:10:35
19.   Andrew Shimmin
18- It just depends on whether your a bigger UCLA reactionary or Digger Phelps reactionary.
2007-02-17 09:12:45
20.   Greg Brock
19 Oh, I'm the bigger UCLA reactionary. My dislike of Phelps doesn't come close to Bob's.
2007-02-17 09:17:45
21.   Greg Brock
From the LA Times:

LaRoche spent the off-season rehabilitating his surgically repaired left shoulder in Arizona. The shoulder gave him problems for three years, especially when he swung the bat hard.

Yet the deepest pain he felt was not getting a September call-up by the Dodgers.

"I was kind of disappointed," he said. "I didn't know why. That's why I'm here early. I have a legitimate chance of making the team and I want it to start now."

So, will The Mustache interpret this as arrogance/entitlement/Hot Doggery?

2007-02-17 09:19:18
22.   Bob Timmermann
Remember when Robert DeNiro playing Al Capone in "The Untouchables" first had a rant about Elliot Ness.

Take that rant, cross "Elliot Ness" and insert "Digger Phelps" for my feelings.

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0094226/quotes

2007-02-17 09:22:42
23.   Bob Timmermann
The Fighting Olneys are hosting The Finest Collection of Basketball Talent Ever today in the weird gym in Nashville.
2007-02-17 09:24:46
24.   Andrew Shimmin
20- I'm a Duke Castiglione reactionary. That he'll be back for another year is the only drawback to Spring Training.
2007-02-17 09:30:25
25.   Greg Brock
I didn't know Duke Castiglione was enough of a factor to merit any sort of enmity. But I respect it.
2007-02-17 09:34:26
26.   Andrew Shimmin
It's partially about the precedent. I don't like sideline reporters, so, I find it offensive that they're being introduced to baseball. But Duke rubs me the wrong way, all by himself, too.
2007-02-17 09:34:49
27.   Bob Timmermann
I don't believe in holding a grudge against someone for a small and unimportant reasons.

All of my grudges have a long documented history and much of my background work is on file at the National Archives.

If you ask an archivist for it, s/he will deny its existence. But, trust me on this, it's there. You just have to ask the right person.

2007-02-17 09:38:09
28.   Andrew Shimmin
Bob is the only man known to have smuggled documents into the National Archives, in his pants and socks.
2007-02-17 09:40:53
29.   Bob Timmermann
I wasn't wearing any pants when I smuggled the documents in. That's what made it so difficult.
2007-02-17 09:49:14
30.   Andrew Shimmin
Beware, beware, beware of the naked (Timmer)mann.
2007-02-17 10:04:11
31.   Greg Brock
This is going to be an unbelievably tough game for the Bruins. And I have to listen to Bill Raftery.
2007-02-17 10:07:07
32.   Bob Timmermann
But I have to work!

No chance to see the glory of Chase Budinger.

2007-02-17 10:22:18
33.   underdog
I don't know why but this Matt White story made me think of a line from Breaking Away.

(Daniel Stern:) "This hole, this quarry hole is mine!"

Now I don't have to feel sorry for him if he's cut in spring training.

2007-02-17 10:56:55
34.   Bob Timmermann
The Fighting Olneys up by 8 on the Greatest Collection of Basketball Talent Ever.
2007-02-17 11:17:16
35.   underdog
Dunno if this was mentioned before, but I just got the new Street and Smith's and it predicts Red Sox over the Dodgers in the world series.

For what that's worth, which is $6.99.

Juan Pierre haters should probably skip over their fantasy section on outfielders...

2007-02-17 11:19:22
36.   trainwreck
Come on Fighting Olneys. Do what Alabama should have done.
2007-02-17 11:22:07
37.   underdog
Tim Hardaway may be banned from All-Star weekend but ESPN2 is going to have live coverage of Hardaway's punishment, which is him escorted down Castro Street here in San Francisco. Live tonight, don't miss it!
2007-02-17 11:26:18
38.   Bob Timmermann
Will UCLA shoot a free throw today?
2007-02-17 11:28:37
39.   Greg Brock
I've been wondering the same thing.
2007-02-17 11:28:40
40.   Bob Timmermann
Arizona has played 29 minutes and committed two fouls.
2007-02-17 11:30:00
41.   Andrew Shimmin
Juan Pierre is exactly the kind of player who's good for a fantasy baseball league, right? SBs and high average. I've never played, but that was always the impression that I took of how it was scored (one of the reasons I don't play). Anyway, thank Ch-i that stat geek DePo and his strat-o-matic ways are gone for good.
2007-02-17 11:30:10
42.   Greg Brock
Mata gets the first throws...Natch.
2007-02-17 11:32:12
43.   Bob Timmermann
Since I'm not watching the game and just following it online, I'm guessing that Arizona isn't playing the greatest defense.
2007-02-17 11:35:48
44.   Bob Timmermann
UCLA doesn't have a record listed for fewest free throws attempted in a game, although I'm certain that the number is zero.

The most UCLA has attempted in one game is 61 against USC back in 1956.

They fouled a lot in basketball back then.

2007-02-17 11:38:44
45.   underdog
I can't believe Mata just made two free throws. I'm waiting for the earth tio split open now.
2007-02-17 11:42:39
46.   Andrew Shimmin
Are we allowed to tease the top thread kids down in this one?
2007-02-17 11:44:17
47.   Greg Brock
46 You bet!
2007-02-17 11:46:54
48.   Bob Timmermann
46 47
Pick on people your own age!
2007-02-17 11:48:25
49.   Greg Brock
48 You're a fine one to talk there Mr. Timmermann!
2007-02-17 11:49:51
50.   Bob Timmermann
Arizona really has fouls to give here down the stretch.
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2007-02-17 11:53:50
51.   trainwreck
Will Lute give the Bruins any respect after the game?
2007-02-17 11:53:53
52.   Greg Brock
50 They've been called for, what, three fouls?
2007-02-17 11:54:03
53.   Bob Timmermann
The Fighting Olneys are shooting 59% today against the Second Coming of the 1956 USF squad.
2007-02-17 11:55:12
54.   Bob Timmermann
How many straight games will Arizona have lost to UCLA now?
2007-02-17 11:56:12
55.   Greg Brock
545 in a row.
2007-02-17 11:56:29
56.   trainwreck
I think 5 but not sure.
2007-02-17 11:58:42
57.   Bob Timmermann
The scoresheet shows Arizona committing five fouls in 13 seconds.
2007-02-17 12:05:15
58.   Greg Brock
Finally get to see somebody else get the court stormed for once.

Refreshing.

2007-02-17 12:07:22
59.   Andrew Shimmin
Will Bob scold the Vanderbilt fans for rushing the floor?
2007-02-17 12:07:26
60.   Bob Timmermann
Florida losing and an episode of "The Office" with no Melora Hardin.

One DT poster must be very, very, very, very sad.

2007-02-17 12:07:55
61.   Izzy
And did I read correctly that Foulke gave up the 5 million voluntarily by retiring??? I suppose that could be worth an aritcle by itself.
2007-02-17 12:07:58
62.   Bob Timmermann
59
Nope. Perfectly justifiable there.
2007-02-17 12:11:46
63.   Bob Timmermann
The funky layout of Memorial Gym at Vanderbilt
http://tinyurl.com/2uatp8

The team benches are on the baselines and note the dead space along the sidelines.

2007-02-17 12:14:16
64.   trainwreck
Come on Washington. Get the Pac-10 some more respect.
2007-02-17 12:15:39
65.   Bob Timmermann
Pitt's RPI would probably take a hit if they lost at home to Washington.

Aaron Gray has only two points against the Huskies?

2007-02-17 12:19:52
66.   trainwreck
Washington has missed a ridiculous number of easy layups.
2007-02-17 12:20:54
67.   trainwreck
*Sorry, I meant Pitt.
2007-02-17 12:42:17
68.   LAT
61. A friend and I were having this exact discussion. I have a hard time believing he just walked away from that much money. I think the money would have become guaranteed if he just reported to camp. Accordingly, I have to believe he negotiated some deal with the team before retiring. Otherwise he is crazy.
2007-02-17 14:06:52
69.   Bob Timmermann
So if Stanford beats Oregon today, do the Stanford students rush the court?
2007-02-17 14:18:15
70.   twerp
63 The playing floor at Vanderbilt's Memorial Gym also is elevated, which can be disconcerting for opposing players--especially those who dive out of bounds after loose balls.

Teams which play there regularly find ways to adapt. But coaches unfamiliar with the gym say the hardest adjustment is trying to coach when their team is at the opposite end of the court.

As you might expect, Vandy has a gaudy overall won-lost record there. And Florida isn't the first No. 1 to fall at Vandy. In fact, the last 3 have--Florida today, Kentucky '93, and North Carolina '87. Vandy's 5-4 overall vs. No. 1s at home (got Kentucky in '59 and '64 also), but a more realistic 5-13 vs. No. 1s overall.

2007-02-17 14:21:21
71.   twerp
Dang stats. Make it Vandy 6-13 overall vs. No.1s.
2007-02-17 14:31:37
72.   Bob Timmermann
71
So you're really Buster Olney aren't you?
2007-02-17 14:32:13
73.   twerp
One other item from the more-than-you-probably-wanted-to-know-about-Vandy department, paraphrased from Wikipedia==

A funny but degrading moment came in Lubbock vs. Texas Tech years ago. From the book Dynamite! 75 Years of Vanderbilt Basketball, Vandy radio broadcaster Larry Munson gave this account:

"This one's going down to the wire, folks. Hang on. We've got Gish coming into the game. It'll be Vandy's ball out of bounds. Wait a minute. What's this? Gish has lost his pants! Bob Polk (Vandy coach) has pulled off Lance Gish's pants in front of six thousand screaming fans! The place is going crazy."

In the excitement of the game, Polk was helping Gish out of his warm-up pants and accidentally grabbed his shorts in addition. The embarrassed Gish did make a pair of crucial free throws to help the Commodores win the game by two.

2007-02-17 14:36:20
74.   twerp
71 Caught me. Full name Busted Twerp Olney.
2007-02-17 14:37:17
75.   Greg Brock
Yup, he is Buster Olney.
2007-02-17 14:39:35
76.   Bob Timmermann
From now on, I will call all productive outs "twerps".
2007-02-17 15:09:11
77.   twerp
76. That wouldn't be a bad new user name now that I've been outed.

"Productive out." Kinda like it..

2007-02-17 15:14:01
78.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers are going to be piling up the twerps this year.
2007-02-17 15:17:29
79.   twerp
Ah, life on the road in the SEC.

Florida goes down at Vandy. Kentucky loses at Alabama. UT gets clocked at South Carolina.

Reminds me of a quote--from Georgia women's coach Andy Landers, I think--that once he stared coaching in the SEC, he slept like a baby.

Woke up every 20 minutes, screaming...

Da-da.

2007-02-17 15:34:56
80.   Bob Timmermann
I'm guessing that the SEC is underreprsented among DT regulars.
2007-02-17 16:03:07
81.   twerp
80. No doubt. Sushirabbit's also in TN. Maybe the new guy Cajun Dodger counts. He's probably in or near LA. (Louisiana, not Lower Alabama like you guys thought.)

No others come to mind. But given my mind, that may not mean a whole lot.

BTW, if Cajun Dodger's around, Geaux Dodgers!

2007-02-17 16:30:08
82.   underdog
Welcome to Spring Training, File 368:

Anyone see this in today's Dodgers notes column on mlb.com? Cracked me up more than it worried me.
"Brad Penny did throw off a mound with some of the other starters. Penny did his conditioning on indoor machines, which isn't unusual for him, but the club revealed he suffered a slight knee sprain during the Christmas break. Penny said he was tripped up by his retriever on the grounds of his California home, but he had no discomfort Saturday."

2007-02-17 17:27:17
83.   Andrew Shimmin
Do the Zags get to storm the court if they pull this one off?
2007-02-17 17:38:48
84.   Bob Timmermann
No, no they don't.

Did the Cal fans storm the court after their OT win against OSU?

2007-02-17 17:49:48
85.   Terry A
I'm in Arkansas. Longtime AD Frank Broyles was to resign today, and embattled football coach Houston Nutt was to get a contract extension. I don't know if any of that actually happened.

But I can attest that Vandy is a darned unfriendly place to play. And I truly dislike Florida, especially the overrated (and dirty) Joakim Noah.

2007-02-17 17:50:20
86.   Terry A
(85 referred to 81.)
2007-02-17 17:56:14
87.   Icaros
From The Gurnick:

Pierre addressed familiar criticism that his on-base percentage (.350 overall, .330 last year) is inadequate for a leadoff hitter.

"I know that's the knock on me," he said. "I put the ball in play. It's a catch-22 kind of deal. I try to walk, but opposing pitchers and managers figure the worst they'll give up is a double [because he lacks home-run power] so most pitchers pound the strike zone. But I could be more selective."

I guess I'm encouraged that he at least knows why I think he's no good.

2007-02-17 18:03:02
88.   Samuel
84

So what are the qualifications for a team's fans to storm the court/football field? A win over a top 5 team?

And no, sorry to disappoint Bob. No rushing the court today.

2007-02-17 18:34:39
89.   twerp
It may have taken a while, but contempt for the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim name has spread as far as South Carolina (if not further)==

http://tinyurl.com/2oxdgh

2007-02-17 18:40:51
90.   Bob Timmermann
Allowable court rushing circumstances:
1) Beating #1 team in the country
2) Beating team in the top 10 if it has a winning streak of over 10 games.
3) Beating a traditional rival that you haven't defeated in at least five years.
4) Clinching an NCAA tournament berth.
5) Clinching a conference regular season title.
6) Winning in extraordinarily dramatic fashion (hitting long shot or coming back from 10+ down with less than 2 minutes left are examples).

Please print up the rules, get them laminated and take them to your next college basketball game.

2007-02-17 18:48:29
91.   Andrew Shimmin
So, under rule two, Gonzaga could have stormed the court, if they'd win. Which they didn't. But still, you've reversed yourself.
2007-02-17 19:07:20
92.   Bob Timmermann
Pac-10 standings
1) UCLA
2) Washington State
3) USC
4) Stanford
5) Oregon
6) Arizona
7) Washington
8) Cal
9) Oregon State
10) Arizona State

USC at Arizona State tomorrow.

2007-02-17 20:16:16
93.   Charenton
81.
In Creole/French it would be:

GAUX Dodgers

(think MarGAUX Hemingway)

or even GOT Dodgers
(nothing to do with milk - more with escarGOT)

but

GEAUX DiMaggio
(wiz a-euh franctch accent bien sur…)

(or Ferguson for those that prefer that the discussion remain Dodger-centric…)

2007-02-17 20:26:12
94.   Xeifrank
Just a reminder to email me if you want to join either the H2H or Roto (5x5) Friends of Dodger Thoughts yahoo fantasy baseball league. vr, Xei
xeifrank@yahoo.com
2007-02-17 20:32:40
95.   twerp
93. If Kenny Landreaux were playing now, would it be "Geaux Landreaux"?
2007-02-17 21:21:53
96.   Andrew Shimmin
Far be it from me to tell anyone how to raise his children, but Zappala really needs to get his house in order. And I don't think times out are going to do it. All I know is, if I'd held my dad up to the kind of public ridicule calling Barry Bonds my favorite player would have, there'd have been a spanking when I got home.
2007-02-17 21:30:52
97.   D4P
When you've got that many apples, one of them's bound to be rotten.
2007-02-17 21:44:14
98.   Greg Brock
Hi, my name is Timmy Brock. My Dad's name is Greg.

My favorite player is Juan Pierre. I just love how he gets so many hits, and steals all the bases. He's also got a really cool head.

My all-time favorite player is Cal Ripken Jr. Did you know that in 1991, Cal had a 17.0 WARP3, which was higher than Barry's WARP3 when he hit 73 home runs? Really, it was! That's the greatest season ever by a shortstop...And I wasn't even born yet!

Also, my favorite DT poster is my Dad, Greg. My least favorite poster is a tie between that Andrew guy and the D4P guy. They both seem so mean! I also like ice cream.

2007-02-17 21:51:10
99.   D4P
Hi, my name is Timmy Brock

My Dad's not married. I overheard someone say I was a "love child." I asked my Dad what that means, and he said that means I'm his child, and he loves me.

2007-02-17 21:55:50
100.   D4P
BTW: We watched "Down With Love" tonight. Hadn't watched it in a few years. What a fun movie. Good date movie, to you single guys and gals out there.
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2007-02-17 21:56:06
101.   Greg Brock
Timmy knows that love has very little to do with it. His middle name is Wynton, because without Jazzfest in New Orleans, he would not exist.
2007-02-17 22:14:18
102.   Daniel Zappala
That's cold, Andrew. A kid shouldn't have to deal with the harsh realities of steroids and bitter rivals just yet. Let him be a kid for a little while longer. :-)
2007-02-17 22:15:55
103.   D4P
Timmy knows that love has very little to do with it

Down with love, eh...?

2007-02-17 22:22:43
104.   Andrew Shimmin
I understand. Some people are against spanking. I'm cool with that. How about a series of small electrical shocks?
2007-02-17 22:33:59
105.   Greg Brock
You two are terrible.
2007-02-17 22:34:57
106.   Andrew Shimmin
105- It would hurt me, more than it would hurt him. But, what must be done, must be done.
2007-02-17 22:35:38
107.   Greg Brock
Andrew and D4P, in all their glory...

http://tinyurl.com/da9d5

2007-02-17 22:37:03
108.   D4P
Why do we always come here,
I guess we'll never know
It's like some kind of torture,
To have to watch the show
2007-02-17 22:38:28
109.   D4P
BTW: I see that Chris Cornell is leaving Audioslave, citing "irresolvable personality conflicts." What, is he filing for divorce or something?

Audioslave had a handful of great songs.

2007-02-17 22:40:06
110.   Greg Brock
Who is Chris Cornell, and who is Audioslave?

And what does it have to do with making fun of Daniel's kids?

2007-02-17 22:41:45
111.   Andrew Shimmin
Just to be clear, since the pronoun wasn't defined, the order of pain from least to most would be: Zappala père; Shimmin; Zappala fils. Electrical shocks hurt physically, the only kind of pain a man can understand.
2007-02-17 22:45:11
112.   StolenMonkey86
107 - those are my favorite two muppet characters
2007-02-17 22:46:30
113.   D4P
112
And favorite two DT posters...!
2007-02-17 22:48:11
114.   trainwreck
Alright, I am just inebriated enough to post in this thread. Rage is getting back together for Cochella Festival, so hopefully that means Rage is back together for awhile. I hated Audioslave. I just kept dreaming those band members were back with their old bands.
2007-02-17 22:50:22
115.   D4P
Rage Against the Machine planned to reunite to perform at this year's Coachella Valley Arts and Music Festival...Tom Morello, the lead guitarist of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave, has said the concert is a one-shot deal.

How could you hate Audioslave? At the very least, you have to like "Like a Stone", "Be Yourself", and "Doesn't Remind Me"...

2007-02-17 22:56:20
116.   trainwreck
I am sorry D4P, but Audioslave has maybe two good songs. That band just makes me wish it was still the 90's.
2007-02-17 22:59:30
117.   D4P
Audioslave has maybe two good songs.

I agree with that. I think a few of their songs are great, and the rest I don't care much about. But the great songs are enough to make me think kindly of them.

2007-02-17 22:59:35
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