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Kemp To Disabled List, Tsao Recalled
2007-04-10 16:00
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

Perhaps because the injury is serious, or perhaps as part of the Dodgers' 2007 better-safe-than-sorry policy, or perhaps for fear that Dodger starting pitching isn't ready to handle six innings every day, the Dodgers placed wall-bouncing outfielder Matt Kemp on the 15-day disabled list and recalled reliever Chin-hui Tsao from Triple-A Las Vegas.

Much will remain in flux, however, with Rafael Furcal on track for activation later this week.

Brace yourselves, though. Wilson Valdez has climbed the pop charts to, oh my, No. 6 on the Dodger hit list. Andre Ethier and Wilson Betemit will be behind him.

* * *

Tonight's game:

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Gameday

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2007-04-10 16:06:37
1.   underdog
This is sort of odd. But then again, maybe not. I'm going to assume, if it is true that Kemp did have a contusion and not something serious, that this is the team being cautious, indeed, and not being deceptive. And I think Tsao is up in part because Tomko isn't going longer then 5 or so, even if he pitches well, and who knows what else the rest of the week will bring.

Also Anderson and Valdez can play OF if needed.

And as you said, when Furcal comes back, things'll change once more.

I hope Tsao (and later Meloan and/or Kuo) will later replace Seanez on the roster.

2007-04-10 16:10:57
2.   bhsportsguy
Part of this could be part of a plan to hope that when and if they try to send Valdez down, teams will be more set in their rosters.

Also, recalling Tsao could also be a sign that either they are not sure that Schmidt may not be available by his next turn and perhaps they will need Chad to fill in next week.

2007-04-10 16:13:37
3.   Benaiah
Not only did I get LAT'ed, but I posted the information that was updated above. That takes a special amount of slowness and bad luck.
2007-04-10 16:14:37
4.   underdog
2 Could be, too. I'm assuming Schmidt will be fine for his next start (if he drinks enough water, ahem) but just in case...

meanwhile, the line-up:
Pierre, CF
Martin, C
Nomar, 1B
Kent, 2B
Gonzalez, LF
Valdez, SS
Ethier, RF
Betemit, 3B
Tomko, P

(Valdez before Ethier?)

2007-04-10 16:15:43
5.   underdog
Oops, and I did something even worse - posted the line up that was already referenced in Jon's post! Sorry. (Darn Toaster needs a "delete post" option... mutter...)

Still... Valdez before Ethier?

2007-04-10 16:16:56
6.   still bevens
4 Valdez is a righty correct? Grady is probably trying to keep the R/L/S lineup diverse. Hes in between two lefties.
2007-04-10 16:18:23
7.   ToyCannon
Looks like the end for Seanez came sooner than I expected. I had hoped for more from him but with Tsao as an option why mess with Seanez.
Bummed about Kemp. Ethier can breath free for two weeks but he better do something with it because Bigbie ain't messing around in Vegas. For some reason I don't think Ethier has a long leash.
2007-04-10 16:18:45
8.   Daniel Zappala
So does Ethier get all these starts in RF to himself? Or does Clark slide over some days? Or do they bring up Loney and send down a pitcher? Or maybe they can bring up Young? I think Roster Thoughts will be quite active this year.
2007-04-10 16:18:48
9.   Benaiah
Kemp going to the DL isn't big news, I think that Ned figured it was an easy way out of a roster controversy. I am glad Tsao is coming up, I think there is a good chance that he won't go down again this year (Rudy S. is on the way out).

Valdez before Ethier doesn't make much sense, but hey, lightning struck once (Marlon Anderson) so I don't blame Grady for going with the hot hand.

2007-04-10 16:21:00
10.   ToyCannon
Normally I'd complain about Valdez batting 6th but the last time I was going to complain he was batting 2nd and then went out and got 3 hits so no sense in looking stupid again.
2007-04-10 16:21:48
11.   fiddlestick
Conte needs to get some of the Magic Soccer Cramp Spray.
2007-04-10 16:24:40
12.   Benaiah
Josh's further thoughts on restaurant critics:

One last thought on the restuarant critics...if they write off of their first visit, how is it that they can weigh in on five or six different appetizers, entrees and desserts? They just take one bite of everything and then give their opinion? Or do they leave every meal stuffed beyond all belief? Anyway...

Of course. They probably only take more than a few bites of a couple items.

2007-04-10 16:24:52
13.   Michael D
I'm going to give management the benefit of the doubt here and say this is no roster conspiracy theory. Kemp was getting a lot of playing time before he got hurt, was playing well, and Little is really high on him. I don't think they just shoved him to the DL to make Ethier happy.
2007-04-10 16:29:00
14.   imperabo
I don't see how DLing Kemp avoids controversy. If they didn't want him up they could just send him down. If he's not hurt then it's better to have him at least playing in the minors.

He's obviously hurt. He said his shoulder REALLY hurt. That's not going away in a day, even if it's not a serious injury. Even if it's something he could play through I'd rather play a healthy Ethier than a hurt Kemp.

2007-04-10 16:34:24
15.   GoBears
Well, it's too bad that Kemp is hurt enough to be on the DL, but this is a great chance for Ethier, since last year's outstanding season-long audition seems to have faded from memory. I'd love for Ethier to play so well that Colletti and Little have to find a way to get him AND Kemp on the field most days. A strict 4-man rotation would be fine - each guy sits every 4th game - until Gonzales plays himself into a more typical 4th OFer role. Either Kemp or Ethier can hold down CF for the days that Pierre sits. It's not like the CF defense would get much worse.

At the very least, I'd like to see Kemp and Ethier both in there against LHP.

But I fear that Pierre will never sit.

2007-04-10 16:40:50
16.   Andrew Shimmin
Sideline reporter action alert: FSN Florida sent one up to bother Vanden Hurk's mother and father, while their son was pitching.
2007-04-10 16:45:07
17.   CanuckDodger
17 -- Hmmm, in Jacksonville, three innings into the game, Elbert is pitching interestingly. 6 K's so far.
2007-04-10 16:45:26
18.   Bluebleeder87
I hope Tsao (and later Meloan and/or Kuo) will later replace Seanez on the roster.

I'm pretty sure Seanez is a good dude & all but I brace (sp?) my self everytime Grady calls him in to pitch.

2007-04-10 16:46:44
19.   Michael D
Eventually, one kid is going to have to get traded. Unless the unthinkable happens and Nomar gets traded, or the more thinkable happens and Nomar misses a good chunk of the year to injury.

If Ethier and Kemp take over left and right field respectively by say the all star break, that means Loney and La Roche are fighting it out for the infield spot, and that's only if Betemit doesn't get on track. Either Nomar moves to third for Loney, or La Roche takes third. Or La Roche or Loney takes an outfield spot over Ethier. Either way there is some musical chairs going on here and somebody is going to have to go when the music stops.

Even if Nomar does get hurt and we find room for them all, he'll eventually come back. Unless all of them are playing somebody has to go. So who should it be?

2007-04-10 16:47:51
20.   Michael D
I meant unless all of them playing well in my previous post.
2007-04-10 16:51:12
21.   Daniel Zappala
Nobody has to go if all of them are playing well. Simply take the one that is playing the least well and keep as a fourth outfielder. Or rotate them through regularly. Or put one in AAA anyway. It is not a problem to have a bunch of kids playing well. We can always dump Anderson or Clark if needed.
2007-04-10 16:53:09
22.   Michael D
I don't see the 4th outfielder thing working out too well. They are all going to want to be starters, and two of them are already talking about how unhappy they are with their lack of being starters (one directly and the other well less directly).
2007-04-10 16:54:42
23.   scareduck
I hasten to add it's not my Gameday; it's just the URLs rewritten so they use the old one.
2007-04-10 16:54:49
24.   GoBears
19. I wouldn't be surprised to see LaRoche stay in AAA until September. Even if Betemit tanks or gets hurt, I bet we'd be more likely to see Martinez at 3rd or (yet another) trade for a middling veteran than we'd be to see LaRoche up or Nomar shifted.

My hope is that Betemit gets it done.

But it does seem at this point like there's a choice to be made between Ethier and Loney. They're very similar hitters. I think Loney will hit for higher average but Ethier for (a little) more power. One's a natural corner OFer, the other a 1st baseman, and one of them is made superfluous by Colletti's commitment to Nomar. Too bad.

2007-04-10 16:54:57
25.   Benaiah
19 - I don't understand why we have to trade players who are both good and cheap. If they are playing well then keep them.

13, 14 - My point wasn't that it was a conspiracy theory, just that it makes things easier for Ned. He needed a roster spot, and Kemp could use some time to recover, problem solved. Considering that Ethier was benched last year, they obviously don't feel they have to appease him.

2007-04-10 16:55:26
26.   CanuckDodger
19 -- Your premise -- that a kid has to get traded -- is wrong. Gonzalez's contract is so short he isn't blocking Kemp or Ethier past this season. Betemit has far from nailed down 3B so LaRoche can take it at any time. And Garciaparra is such a long shot to stay healthy at 1B for two years that if we didn't already have Loney we would have to make a trade to get him. And the worst case scenario for Loney is that he uses up his two remaining minor league options in Vegas and becomes the starting Dodger 1B in 2009 before his 25th birthday, making him a regular MLB'er at a younger age than Ryan Howard was when he took over 1B in Philadelphia.
2007-04-10 17:00:24
27.   Michael D
I already have Gonzalez losing his job to somebody. I really don't think Loney is going to appreciate waiting til 2009 to get his shot, and he sure doesn't have Jim Thome blocking him either.

This is where the human element comes in, in that if these guys are good enough to be starters they are going to want to be starters. Plus, the team is going to have needs to fill.

2007-04-10 17:01:06
28.   Bob Timmermann
23
I envision Rob in a room full of TVs with seven computers going, entering pitch data and the results of each pitch.

Then he does it.

All season long.

He'd drop dead before the All-Star Break. But right before he died, he'd type
"Pitch 7 - In play, run(s)"

And then leave us all hanging.

2007-04-10 17:05:28
29.   imperabo
So, this is as OT as you can get, but I have to tell someone.

On my way home a few minutes ago I saw a license plate cover that said "Teacher's never lose their class". Note the apostrophe. My mind is still reeling.

2007-04-10 17:06:11
30.   Jim Hitchcock
See how it is? I get to watch the Dodgers wreak havoc on the Giants over the weekend, and they win all three games.

So, for the good of the team, I am pleased to announce that I am now accepting donations to fund my MLB Extra Innings account.

Please make checks payable to `I need my Vin Scully'(a Cayman Islands Corporation).

Thanks!

2007-04-10 17:06:44
31.   Jon Weisman
23 - And kudos to you for the rewrite!

28 - LOL

2007-04-10 17:07:57
32.   GoBears
29. Ouch.
2007-04-10 17:08:10
33.   tskent
I predict Kemp will do a rehab stint in Vegas after his DL stint. Depending upon how the rehab stint goes will determine if Kemp comes back sooner rather than later. We can do without Kemp though for the time being. This organization is LOADED. Good times.
2007-04-10 17:17:29
34.   bhsportsguy
23 Has anyone figured out what possibly is the deal with Santana's splits away from the Big A. Outside of pitching at Oakland, he seems to have issues with pitching on the road.
2007-04-10 17:18:08
35.   s choir
I am optimistic about Valdez batting sixth. It balances out the lineup. If this works well, maybe Little will be persuaded to move Pierre to the sixth spot once Furcal returns.
2007-04-10 17:18:51
36.   Andrew Shimmin
26- The worst case for Loney is he loses many millions of dollars, plus whatever additional career milestones he might have had, because he's an indentured servant to a man of great whimsy.
2007-04-10 17:21:54
37.   natepurcell
This organization is LOADED. Good times.

if the organization is loaded then why do we have such a roster crunch with all our potential high end youngsters? shouldnt we let them play instead of wasting millions here and there for vets who probably wont be any better?

anyways, elbert looks to have something to prove down in AA. "Kershaw rated above me!!??! We'll see about that..."

2007-04-10 17:22:16
38.   bhsportsguy
Per Tony Jackson - Matt Kemp went on the 15-day DL with what is Grade 1 separation that isn't supposed to take longer than two weeks to heal.

Tsao was called up to back up Tomko for tonight since Tomko hasn't pitched in 12 days, Grady doesn't expect more than 4-5 innings and Tsao will be the next pitcher tonight.

Furcal is expected to replace Tsao later on this week.

2007-04-10 17:23:35
39.   Andrew Shimmin
Best Aflac trivia question ever: How do you say "baseball" in the Netherlands?

Honkbal.

2007-04-10 17:24:59
40.   CanuckDodger
Elbert still pitching interestingly after 5 innings. 9 K's, 2 BB's.
2007-04-10 17:26:17
41.   natepurcell
40

only thing i ask of elbert is to keep the walks down.

2007-04-10 17:27:21
42.   ssjames
Elbert for the season, 18Ks and 3 BBs in 11 IP. Clearly, he knows that he needs to cut down on the BBs and is doing it without sacrificing the Ks. I love it.
2007-04-10 17:29:06
43.   Michael D
I wasn't thinking about any Kemp conspiracy before, but it's pretty convenient he goes to the 15 day DL with an injury that should take no more than 2 weeks to heal...
2007-04-10 17:29:51
44.   Bob Timmermann
39
Griddle readers would have known the answer.
2007-04-10 17:30:20
45.   Michael D
It's definitely good to see Elbert keep the K's up and the walks down. He keeps that up and he'll be a beast.
2007-04-10 17:31:09
46.   bhsportsguy
38 Everything I have read so far says that a Grade 1 or Type 1 shoulder separation involves no tearing of any tissue, is usually just soreness/tenderness, treatment is anti-inflames and putting arm in a sling. Should recover in 2 weeks with no recurring problems.
2007-04-10 17:31:25
47.   natepurcell
I really like Vaden Hurk's delivery for the Marlins.
2007-04-10 17:32:12
48.   Andrew Shimmin
43- Really? I don't see getting anything out of playing a man down for up to two weeks. Although, they're not going to get much (it's to be hoped) out of the twelfth pitcher, either, so there's that.
2007-04-10 17:34:36
49.   s choir
Kemp had a separated shoulder? That's not good. I thought he just had a contusion.
2007-04-10 17:35:42
50.   Andrew Shimmin
44- Only if they'd read the comments already!

I always read the Griddle. I don't read the comments of every post. Too many intimidating strangers.

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2007-04-10 17:38:53
51.   Vishal
i'm usually down on the DT slang, but... LAT'ed? is that when someone narrowly beats you to posting news?
2007-04-10 17:39:04
52.   natepurcell
49

a grade one separation is basically just a deep contusion.

2007-04-10 17:39:43
53.   Benaiah
Wow, Elbert's interesting game doesn't prevent him from being yanked before the start of the 6th.
2007-04-10 17:40:40
54.   Vishal
alex gordon just hit his first major league homer.
2007-04-10 17:40:57
55.   Marty
51 I think it's posting a comment just before Jon puts up a new thread. LAT does it quite often.
2007-04-10 17:42:02
56.   Jon Weisman
Yet another homer for Jon Weisman today.

http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/stories/041007adk.html

2007-04-10 17:43:19
57.   Vishal
[55] hahah, i hate that. i often end up not noticing the new thread at all and posting on the end of the old one where nobody reads it or responds.
2007-04-10 17:50:53
58.   s choir
57 I just did that on the last thread with a long thesis on the dynamics of restaurant criticism.
2007-04-10 17:54:34
59.   Vishal
[29] incorrect pluralizations with apostrophes are a huge pet peeve of mine. i pretty much only use them for the A's or other single letter abbreviations.
2007-04-10 17:56:50
60.   Humma Kavula
59 The New York Times uses them for all acronyms. But they also use periods...

H.M.O.'s
S.U.N.Y.'s

I think the New York Times style editor might be smoking crack.

2007-04-10 18:09:46
61.   Just Blue
...and another thing that bugs me about Gonzalez...he never comes close to diving, or running into walls. It's like he's thinking "I'm 39. If I try too hard, I might hurt myself. Then I'll go on the DL and lose my roster spot to one of the kids."

Well, OK, he's got a point, but how else are we gonna get him on the DL. He even stands too far from home plate for an opposing pitcher to throw at him.

Come on, Gonzo, get scrappy!

2007-04-10 18:13:29
62.   Andrew Shimmin
Will Carroll is reporting that Schmidt had a "mild strain of his hamstring." Haven't seen anyone else say that; is that the old story or the newest one?
2007-04-10 18:15:53
63.   GoBears
Yeah, the cynic in me (OK, that's most of me) is thinking that maybe Little is refusing to rest Gonzales, hoping that he'll run him into the ground by mid-May just from all the swinging and jogging. That'd be a face-saving way of getting your veteran leadership in the clubhouse but playing the kids during the stretch run.

Of course, since a traumatic injury is, as Just Blue suggests, very unlikely for a guy who tiptoes around, the risk is that he'll play all season and just get worse and worse and worse.

2007-04-10 18:25:49
64.   Andrew Shimmin
Do minor league teams use a standard five man rotation? Alberto Bastardo started on the fifth; does that mean he's starting tonight? I'm seriously considering driving out; I could be there around starting time. Tonight's Furry's first rehab start, right?
2007-04-10 18:26:08
65.   GoBears
In partial repentance for 63, I'll salute our host and Mr. Gonzales, by framing the latter's 2-HR game as one of those "told you so" moments predicted by the former.

So when will Pierre have his? I'm guessing it will be a 5-hit, 3-run, 2-SB game, with an OF assist (nailing a guy trying to advance from 1st to 3rd on a shallow popup, most likely), and that it will come in July.

2007-04-10 18:27:24
66.   tskent
Wilson Valdez carries a modest 3 game hitting streak into this evenings action.
2007-04-10 18:29:21
67.   Vishal
[66] modest, indeed. i'd say three games is the absolute minimum number of games in a row necessary to conceivably refer to it as a "streak".
2007-04-10 18:31:26
68.   Vishal
old friend jae seo is down 10-5 after the third inning in texas.
2007-04-10 18:33:59
69.   Andrew Shimmin
68- That game is getting in the way of a rock paper scissor match between some guy and another sideline reporter.
2007-04-10 18:34:49
70.   tskent
Worse than old friend EJ but better than older friend OP from yesterday. I'm glad those 3 scrubs are gone.
2007-04-10 18:39:07
71.   tskent
I see Navarro's stinkin up the joint early on. He's hitting a robust .071. I think Joel Guzman must have retired. I dunno. I have a feeling TB won't be trading with us anymore.
2007-04-10 18:41:13
72.   Benaiah
Rob, was changing Y2007 to Y2006 in the URL all you had to do? That is genius if so. How did you figure that out?
2007-04-10 18:42:44
73.   Benaiah
70 - Yeah, good thing we don't have EJax around cluttering up the roster with his 95+ MPH fastball. Baez really came in handy too, not to mention Lance Carter! We wouldn't have made the playoffs without those two.
2007-04-10 18:44:49
74.   Andrew Shimmin
Navarro has a hit today, so he's hitting .125. In sixteen ABs.
2007-04-10 18:46:56
75.   Andrew Shimmin
Guzman's hitting .333 in 15 ABs for the Durham Bulls.
2007-04-10 18:53:04
76.   tskent
Baez and Carter were fodder that were sent packing. Basically a junk for junk trade. But we helped turn Baez into Betemit. And Betemit does have value though he's struggling.

We have no room for Jackson and he has little trade value.

2007-04-10 18:53:05
77.   regfairfield
Some scrub named Pujols is hitting .200 for the Cardinals. How bad do you have to be to be hitting him third?
2007-04-10 18:53:49
78.   Benaiah
74 - We have four players starting tonight who are hitting below the Mendoza line.
2007-04-10 18:55:37
79.   tskent
73- I don't think Edwin Jackson would have helped too much on our crusade to the 2nd best record in the league last season. First time that feat was accomplished since 1988.
2007-04-10 18:56:08
80.   Vishal
[76] yet we have room for rudy seanez, brett tomko, mark hendrickson, and TWO backup, no-hit middle infielders?
2007-04-10 18:56:09
81.   LAT
While of course I am sorry to see Kemp is hurt, I am glad that they actually put him on the DL if he needs the time to heal. Like Jon, I never understood why the Dodger medical staff would rush injured players back or believe players when they said they felt better. Hopefully, this is not a roster manipulation but a sign that new trainer, Stan Conti, will do things differently. If so it may be Ned's best acquisition of the off season.

I suspect this was discussed in a previous thread but DT is getting a lot of play at Josh's blog. Ratt's site being cited too.

2007-04-10 18:56:53
82.   Vishal
(three if you count marlon anderson)
2007-04-10 18:58:10
83.   Icaros
Keep baiting that hook, tskent.
2007-04-10 19:00:59
84.   tskent
Rudy Seanez is a wonderful guy, but his days are numbered.

Tomko and Hendrickson are valuable members of the club that will pay dividends throughout the season.

Ramon Martinez has been a wonderful addition to the club since he signed prior to last season.

Valdez has contributed greatly in his 3 starts thus far. I think he's the real deal.
He's found his niche. He's like a fine wine. Got better with age, though he's still fairly young.

2007-04-10 19:04:58
85.   Bumsrap
Maybe Nomar should go on a leave of absence to be with his wife and new born twins until he can get his mind on baseball again.

And maybe Loney can get his mind back on the ball if he were to get a chance to play first for a week.

2007-04-10 19:05:03
86.   Andrew Shimmin
Ch-i is my shepard, He is my guide
Whatever I need, Hee Seop will provide
Oh that's why we praise Ch-i, 'cause He's so wonderful (He's so wonderful)
2007-04-10 19:05:07
87.   Vishal
[84] haha, okay, have it your way. but tell us, what flavor is the kool-aid? :)
2007-04-10 19:05:54
88.   tskent
I have trouble considering a guy who slammed 7 HR's in September, in crunch time, who forced his way to the starting LF slot, a no hit middle infielder.

To each his own I suppose.

2007-04-10 19:07:28
89.   PlayTwo
Darryl Strawberry hurt his shoulder running into the same wall as Kemp. The team added padding as a result. Did management know this? It did cause Strawberry to rehab in Albq. where he met a bartended named Brendan Donnelly and encouraged him to give baseball another shot. Now B.D. has a ring.
2007-04-10 19:10:29
90.   Vishal
[88] http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070410&content_id=1890229&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
2007-04-10 19:11:37
91.   Andrew Shimmin
Donnelly got chased from the game, tonight, for hitting Kenji Johjima after he and Jose Guillen started a benches clearing non-brawl.

It was great.

2007-04-10 19:11:51
92.   Icaros
88

So I guess you think Randy Winn is the best right fielder in the league based on his great September 2005, huh?

2007-04-10 19:16:05
93.   tskent
92 - You're being a silly willy. I just don't think Marlon Anderson is a no hit middle infielder.

A. Never saw him play the middle infield.

B. I have fond memeories of him pounding the baseball.

2007-04-10 19:17:06
94.   regfairfield
93 I don't think anyone was calling him a no hit middle infielder. He's more of an occasional hit outfielder/second baseman (?).
2007-04-10 19:17:48
95.   Bob Timmermann
91
I love the Donnelly-Guillen feud. The Guillen-Donnelly feud set up the Scioscia-Robinson shouting match which forever put Frank on my "Dead to Me" list.

Robinson's name is etched in granite on that list. It's like one of the Ten Commandments.

2007-04-10 19:17:54
96.   regfairfield
One of the bigger mysteries of the offseason is why Rockies fans were excited about acquiring Rodrigo Lopez.
2007-04-10 19:18:35
97.   Bob Timmermann
First major league homer by Josh Hamilton tonight.
2007-04-10 19:18:57
98.   Benaiah
The Dodgers have gotten more out of the #9 hole than the #1.
2007-04-10 19:20:27
99.   Bob Timmermann
Erick Aybar was thrown out stealing second to end the game for the Angels for the second time in a week.
2007-04-10 19:21:36
100.   natepurcell
i think bluetahoe has returned from his hiatus.
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2007-04-10 19:21:43
101.   Gen3Blue
Martin--now thats how to bat lead-off.
2007-04-10 19:24:14
102.   Icaros
93

You gave yourself away with the "silly willy" comment. Hope you get banned again soon.

2007-04-10 19:25:17
103.   regfairfield
Does Todd Helton jump into the league lead for worst facial hair?
2007-04-10 19:26:27
104.   Benaiah
Kent has a 12 game hitting streak heading into this game (13 if you count the playoffs).
2007-04-10 19:26:28
105.   natepurcell
103

i was about to comment about it. but i was going to say its awesome...!!!

2007-04-10 19:27:16
106.   Vishal
[95] i never understood what made robinson such a bad guy in that situation. as far as i knew, guillen tipped robinson off that donnelly had been doctoring balls with pine tar, and robinson told the umps and donnelly got caught. there must've been more to it to merit a "dead to me", though
2007-04-10 19:27:57
107.   regfairfield
105 I disagree. Smooth Sal, awesome facial hair. Jose Valentin, best mustache in the game. Helton just looks like a lumberjack.

On a completely unrelated note, Tomko looks strangely effective tonight.

2007-04-10 19:28:15
108.   natepurcell
abreu is 4-4 tonight with a hr. i wish hed walk a bit more but other then that, no complaints.
2007-04-10 19:29:19
109.   Benaiah
I take back what I said about the playoffs, since a) it makes no sense and b) I didn't look it up so while it might be true, I have no proof.
2007-04-10 19:29:21
110.   tskent
Brett Tomko's 2 innings have been better than any of Schmidt's 9. That's disheartenting. Schmitty concerns me. I don't think he can be much better than a .500 pitcher with an 87-88 MPH FB.
2007-04-10 19:29:43
111.   Hallux Valgus
103- Scott Spiezio?
2007-04-10 19:29:59
112.   Eric Enders
Speaking of Helton, he talks like he's a closet Dodger fan or something. Per MLB.com:

"I didn't think I was getting the home opener at Dodger Stadium off," Helton said. "I'm not too crazy about that."

2007-04-10 19:30:03
113.   natepurcell
you dont find it fitting that he looks like a lumberjack while playing for the rockies? He plays his roll perfectly!
2007-04-10 19:30:05
114.   Andrew Shimmin
Piazza's looking lumberjacky this year, too.
2007-04-10 19:30:11
115.   Bob Timmermann
106
Mainly because Robinson acted like he was the lone protector of decency in society when all he was doing was relying on his punk outfielder to give him a slight edge. And Robinson tried to appeal his suspension by using the excuse that "Scioscia yelled at me first!"
2007-04-10 19:31:50
116.   regfairfield
111 Touche.
2007-04-10 19:31:52
117.   tskent
If Brett Tomko can harness his emotions and his stuff he has the potential to be an All Star and make a run at a Cy Young. He's just never put it together for 33-35 starts.
2007-04-10 19:32:50
118.   Vishal
[115] okay, so he's a bit sanctimonious. but while neither man acted with much grace, i thought scioscia's behavior was less defensible.
2007-04-10 19:32:58
119.   Icaros
Please Vishal, quit poking the lion with a stick.
2007-04-10 19:35:11
120.   Bob Timmermann
Saying Frank Robinson is a bit sanctimonious is like saying Anna Nicole Smith is a bit dead.
2007-04-10 19:36:07
121.   Vishal
[119] eh, you're probably right. i need to sleep anyway.
2007-04-10 19:37:11
122.   Bluebleeder87
Bob if I can ask, Why do you dislike Frank Robinson so much?
2007-04-10 19:37:45
123.   Daniel Zappala
99 Please don't remind me.
2007-04-10 19:38:54
124.   Bluebleeder87
It looks like Tomko brought his A game with him tonight.
2007-04-10 19:39:16
125.   scareduck
122 - because he's a prickly jerk?
2007-04-10 19:39:44
126.   scareduck
124 - or the Rockies brought the Rockies...
2007-04-10 19:40:07
127.   Bob Timmermann
125
BINGO!
2007-04-10 19:40:39
128.   Hallux Valgus
124- I think he's just at his most effective on 12 days rest. I'm the same way at my job.
2007-04-10 19:40:39
129.   Andrew Shimmin
Robinson must have rubbed off on Guillen: "I was surprised that I was the one who got ejected. I wasn't the one that started it."
2007-04-10 19:44:42
130.   Benaiah
Betemit is a walk machine. When his average inevitably regresses (in a good way) he will be positively Aybar-esq.
2007-04-10 19:45:34
131.   JoeyP
He's not a base running machine.
2007-04-10 19:45:42
132.   Andrew Shimmin
Unsilky.
2007-04-10 19:46:43
133.   overkill94
103 I'm gonna have to agree with regairfield, Helton's goatee is pretty hideous
2007-04-10 19:47:50
134.   tskent
Pierre can't buy a break.
2007-04-10 19:49:18
135.   imperabo
For some reason Pierre's swing and stance reminds me of DeLino DeShields.
2007-04-10 19:50:36
136.   Frip
It won't be long now before women are wearing goatees.

Yea I know, but they'll find a way, trust me.

2007-04-10 19:50:57
137.   Benaiah
I can't believe how fast Taveras got down the line. That shouldn't have been close.
2007-04-10 19:52:27
138.   Bluebleeder87
125

well he was a jerk to Sciocia that one time.

2007-04-10 19:52:50
139.   Gen3Blue
At this point, adding a player like Furcal could turn an extremely weak offense into at least an average one just because he can do things no one else on the team can do.
2007-04-10 19:52:56
140.   tskent
This where Bretty needs to gain composure.
2007-04-10 19:53:55
141.   confucius
133 I like the facial hair. Looks like a mountain man.
2007-04-10 19:54:30
142.   overkill94
Phew, Bomko almost came out that inning
2007-04-10 19:55:42
143.   overkill94
141 Nah, too precise around the edges to be mountain manish. Matt Morris had a killer mountain man beard because it looked like he hadn't even trimmed it in a year.
2007-04-10 19:55:55
144.   CanuckDodger
Abreu 5-for-5 tonight, a homer and four singles.
2007-04-10 19:56:05
145.   tskent
Tomko was fortunate there. Helton crushed it. I'm happy. It wasn't a home run or a run scoring double. Pierre caught it.
2007-04-10 19:58:56
146.   imperabo
If Martin weren't so good at everything I'd call him a professional hitter.
2007-04-10 20:00:37
147.   Bluebleeder87
The ump has a pitcher friendly strike zone.
2007-04-10 20:02:05
148.   Benaiah
Martin and Nomar are proving to be a potent pair.
2007-04-10 20:02:10
149.   Hallux Valgus
"...both ears and a tail?"
2007-04-10 20:03:35
150.   imperabo
That's ok. I'm sure we've got a slugger in the 6th spot to clean this up.
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2007-04-10 20:03:40
151.   tskent
The Rox won't no part of Gonzo.
2007-04-10 20:03:43
152.   trainwreck
Go ahead and walk Gonzo for us.
2007-04-10 20:04:03
153.   Andrew Shimmin
Bastardo got pulled in the third after five hits and three walks. Four strikeouts, though. All in all, I'm glad I didn't go.
2007-04-10 20:04:31
154.   Bob Timmermann
149
Bullfighting reference.

Bullfighting! It's the "sport" where you know that the steak you are about to eat was taunted before a large crowd before it was killed.

2007-04-10 20:06:01
155.   scareduck
The "Island Empire"? They sent Furcal to Hawaii? I didn't know they were in the Cal League!
2007-04-10 20:06:37
156.   JoeyP
That was weak Valdez.
Ethier with a chance to redeem his season.
2007-04-10 20:06:46
157.   Hallux Valgus
thanks! frankly, I like my steak well-taunted. It adds so much smoky flavor.
2007-04-10 20:07:00
158.   Bob Timmermann
Actually, I believe that Furcal is playing in Tonga tonight.
2007-04-10 20:07:40
159.   JoeyP
Ugly
2007-04-10 20:07:50
160.   Benaiah
Vin just said that Kemp had won the job in RF, and this is Ethier's "golden opportunity." Weird, I never heard that. What a waste of runners in scoring position.
2007-04-10 20:08:31
161.   Bob Timmermann
The one time I was in Spain someone told me that I just "had to go see a bullfight!"

That was the lowlight of my trip to Spain.

And I had my wallet stolen on that trip and $5000 of fraudulent charges run up on my credit card!

2007-04-10 20:08:40
162.   Underbruin
Ugh. How do you get no runs with men on 2nd and 3rd and no out, or bases loaded with one out?
2007-04-10 20:09:18
163.   tskent
You could tell that was an unsuccessful half inning.
2007-04-10 20:09:27
164.   scareduck
154 -

But best of all, we went to the Plaza de Toros.
Now whenever I start feeling morose,
I revive by recalling that scene.
And names like Belmonte, Dominguin, and Manolete,
If I live to a hundred and eighty,
I shall never forget what they mean.

(For there is surely nothing more beautiful in this
world than the sight of a lone man facing singlehandedly
a half a ton of angry pot roast!)

2007-04-10 20:10:06
165.   Andrew Shimmin
$5000 of fraudulent charges run up on my credit card

Jeez. Icaros has apologized like a million times already. Can't you ever let anything go?

2007-04-10 20:10:33
166.   Bob Timmermann
Anibal Sanchez opens up a bottle of champagne!

It's getting pretty expensive for him to do this every day.

2007-04-10 20:11:24
167.   Rob M
I really don't like Pierre. I mean - that would have been a nice catch but not that extraordinary. He isn't good at anything.
2007-04-10 20:11:26
168.   JoeyP
Its a good thing Ethier was there to throw that one back in. Pierre misjudged how close he was to the wall. He could have had it.
2007-04-10 20:11:52
169.   Frip
If I were Tomko I'd pinch Juan really hard while he's shampooing.
2007-04-10 20:12:21
170.   capdodger
Hmm.... Glad I'm not the only one that thought that Pierre misplayed that one bit.
2007-04-10 20:13:19
171.   D4P
Is it just me, or does Pierre make a lot of bad plays that don't get scored as "Errors"...?
2007-04-10 20:14:09
172.   Bluebleeder87
167

I hold my breath every time the ball is hit to 'em & believe me I wanna like 'em cause he's a Dodger now.

2007-04-10 20:14:22
173.   Bob Timmermann
171
You like to live on the edge there don't you?
2007-04-10 20:15:27
174.   capdodger
171 He seems to jump a lot when he doesn't need to. It's as if he doesn't know where he is, and he's trying to avoid pulling a Repko.
2007-04-10 20:15:27
175.   Hallux Valgus
171- completely agree. He misplays most balls off the bat.

jeez, Tulowitzki looked like the 11 year old sI coached when they saw a curve ball for the first time.

2007-04-10 20:15:42
176.   D4P
173
Am I the only one...?
2007-04-10 20:16:48
177.   JJ42
Wow, this is bad, not the game but the Rockies announcers. I recently took a job in San Diego and watching the game on Extra Innings. For all the talk about Steiner and Monday, I'd gladly take them over some of these clowns.

And here in SD, they have channel 4 with the Padre announcers. They make me hate the Padres even more. They are horrible!

2007-04-10 20:17:16
178.   JoeyP
So the ban on the "is it just me" posts have been lifted for tonite?
2007-04-10 20:17:25
179.   D4P
Alex Gordon hit the first of 1273 career HRs today
2007-04-10 20:17:46
180.   overkill94
I was about to compliment Pierre for making a nice catch on that one until he inexplicably dropped the ball. Looked like he timed his jump well and was in perfect position, how did he not catch it?
2007-04-10 20:18:06
181.   capdodger
I like living in the fridge.
2007-04-10 20:18:15
182.   trainwreck
I cannot complain about 8 k's in 5 innings and one hit allowed.
2007-04-10 20:19:02
183.   scareduck
175 - jeez, Tulowitzki looked like the 11 year old sI coached when they saw a curve ball for the first time.

Given he played AAA at Colorado Springs, it's likely most curveballs looked like fastballs, and most fastballs looked like straightballs.

2007-04-10 20:19:15
184.   capdodger
180 He didn't time his jump well. He whiffed on the ball.
2007-04-10 20:19:41
185.   scareduck
182 - let me try: this outing will get Tomko more starts, in which he will unearn every positive.
2007-04-10 20:19:49
186.   D4P
Wow, maybe Tomko should get 6 months between starts more often
2007-04-10 20:20:08
187.   JoeyP
A-Rod hit the 6th of his 80HRs this season..
2007-04-10 20:20:20
188.   underdog
Vin is in awesome form tonight. He's probably said this one before but I loved the line when Ethier was up. "For the birthday boy, he's got three candles on the cake, and their names are Martin... etc"

Yeah, that ball to Pierre could have been caught. Wasn't an easy play but he had it. Tomko can't be too mad because that ball was crushed.

Speaking of which, Tomko really does look a different pitcher tonight than the one that usually made me cringe and twinge. Really good stuff so far. So far (he adds, ominously.)

2007-04-10 20:23:04
189.   overkill94
184 Ah. I wasn't watching super-close, I was on the phone setting up a date.

Has anyone heard anything about the movie "The Lookout"?

2007-04-10 20:23:59
190.   Rob M
I don't have much of a problem with Tomko. He passes for a pretty solid 5th starter in the NL, even when he's his normal inconsistent self. Plus he has Billingsley behind him. Tomko is the least of my worries with this team.
2007-04-10 20:24:02
191.   Andrew Shimmin
189- Jon really liked it. His review is up at ScreenJam.
2007-04-10 20:24:30
192.   trainwreck
189
Heard it was real good. That help?
2007-04-10 20:25:00
193.   overkill94
He was safe!
2007-04-10 20:25:07
194.   Andrew Shimmin
He was safe.
2007-04-10 20:25:19
195.   imperabo
So safe
2007-04-10 20:25:20
196.   capdodger
He was safe.
2007-04-10 20:25:24
197.   fordprefect
164 Love the Tom Lehrer stuff--this from TWTWTW ?
2007-04-10 20:25:32
198.   D4P
Even when Pierre gets on base, he makes an out
2007-04-10 20:25:35
199.   Gen3Blue
Despite everything, Pierre looked safe.
2007-04-10 20:25:42
200.   Bluebleeder87
watching the reply he was safe, Pierre was.
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2007-04-10 20:25:42
201.   underdog
Boy, Pierre sure looked safe on that one. But 9 times out of ten they call the runner out if the ball is on time to the fielder.
2007-04-10 20:26:17
202.   dzzrtRatt
Even the umpires find Pierre's game irritating.
2007-04-10 20:26:31
203.   underdog
Damn, I really added nothing to the conversation there, did I?

"Pierre looked... {in Homer Simpson voice} D'oh!"

2007-04-10 20:27:01
204.   D4P
I think umps feel mild pressure to call runners out on pitchouts
2007-04-10 20:27:32
205.   FirstMohican
I had to come to DT for confirmation that he was clearly safe haha.
2007-04-10 20:27:33
206.   Frip
Not safe enough. Especially with his speed and experience, and off season training with whats-his-face.
2007-04-10 20:28:30
207.   Gen3Blue
Pierre sure can't catch a break, and I think I'm even beggining to feel for him. This is awful.
2007-04-10 20:28:48
208.   Hallux Valgus
that was a pretty lousy jump.
2007-04-10 20:29:17
209.   overkill94
191 192 Good to hear, especially since it was either that or "Blades of Glory" considering all the other crap that's out there right now.
2007-04-10 20:29:57
210.   capdodger
208 But he still beat the throw.... He's quick.
2007-04-10 20:30:02
211.   underdog
What's Vin's problem with rabbits anyway? Did he watch Night of the Lepus too many times as a child?
2007-04-10 20:32:06
212.   trainwreck
209
Blades of Glory is not worth seeing in theatres, unless you really want to see Jenna Fischer in lingerie.
2007-04-10 20:32:26
213.   overkill94
Now HE was out
2007-04-10 20:32:27
214.   Andrew Shimmin
See? That's what out looks like.
2007-04-10 20:32:49
215.   capdodger
Now that's out.
2007-04-10 20:32:55
216.   overkill94
Lingerie you say?
2007-04-10 20:33:03
217.   underdog
Okay, Taveras WAS out. Martin nailed him as well as you can nail a runner.
2007-04-10 20:33:11
218.   JoeyP
Hurdle really needs to just like not manage. Just take a nap during the games.
2007-04-10 20:33:22
219.   dzzrtRatt
From Dodgers.com:

The injury called into question the change in the Dodger Stadium outfield fence, which originally was unpadded wood. A similar injury suffered when Darryl Strawberry ran into the right-field fence in 1991 prompted the club to pad the fence entirely, but several years ago the Dodgers cut out sections of the fence to install out-of-town scoreboards, which were replaced this year by larger video message boards.

Kemp absolved the scoreboard of blame.

"It could have happened if the wall was padded," he said. "I hit it the wrong way."

...Kemp said, as Jamie McCourt finally released the atomic wedgie after 10 minutes of excruciating pain.

2007-04-10 20:33:33
220.   overkill94
Either my cable feed is faster or you guys type too slow ;)
2007-04-10 20:33:40
221.   Hallux Valgus
208- oh, very much agreed. He was safe, and after a bad jump and a pitchout with a good throw, that's saying quite a bit. Just something I noticed. I guess I should've preluded my comment with "apropos of nothing,"
2007-04-10 20:33:46
222.   D4P
Thanks, Rockies, for clearing the bases with your #2-4 hitters coming up
2007-04-10 20:33:55
223.   underdog
Okay, Taveras WAS... D'oh.

Damn this slow speed when MLBTV's on.

2007-04-10 20:35:10
224.   scareduck
197 - not sure the album. It may have been on TWTWTW.
2007-04-10 20:35:49
225.   capdodger
220 I'm on MLB.TV.
2007-04-10 20:36:10
226.   Underbruin
Instead of 1 out, Helton up, 1st and 2nd, there are 2 outs, Helton up, runner at 1st.

Thank you Clint Hurdle!

2007-04-10 20:36:55
227.   capdodger
I have a bad feeling about this.
2007-04-10 20:37:33
228.   3upn3down
Late to the party, so I apologize if this has been discussed, but did anyone else see the irony in Jeff Francis sitting in the box directly next to Tom Hanks.

You may recall our discussion last year regarding the striking resemblance between Francis and Tom's son Colin Hanks who plays Lt. Jones in Band of Brothers.

http://tinyurl.com/2ullfr

I nearly choked on my Shiner Bock (I'm in Texas, and if you don't know Shiner Bock, you are missing out!) when they panned to the right to reveal Tom!

2007-04-10 20:37:46
229.   Underbruin
Wow - despite throwing a 1-hitter to this point, Tomko's already over 90 pitches through 5.
2007-04-10 20:37:56
230.   Hallux Valgus
222- that harkens back to the"Baylor Ball" ways of the Rox inception. "When in doubt, send Eric Young" was the motto I assigned big Don.
2007-04-10 20:38:06
231.   D4P
Even though it helps my team, it still bugs me to see the opposing team trying to steal, especially on Martin's arm
2007-04-10 20:38:22
232.   Icaros
Okay, he's done. Good job, Brett.
2007-04-10 20:38:49
233.   Gen3Blue
These Colorado announcers are so eager to get into the D's bull-pen. Be careful what you wish for!
2007-04-10 20:38:58
234.   underdog
Tomko's last batter I would think. 90 pitches. 1 hit. Many K's. I'd say that was a darned good outing. Let's hope the bullpen doesn't blow it and just as nice would be a couple of insurance runs.

Also, while I'm wishing for stuff, I would like for this burrito I ate earlier to digest better. Thank you.

2007-04-10 20:38:59
235.   JoeyP
Tomko's gonna start for at least the next month based on this 1 start.
2007-04-10 20:39:42
236.   Bob Timmermann
Clay Hensley is the soft underbelly of the Padres rotation. The Giants scored six runs off of him.
2007-04-10 20:39:51
237.   underdog
229 You mean through 6, Bruin.
2007-04-10 20:41:03
238.   trainwreck
Sportsline was telling me that Billingsley was pitching that last inning.
2007-04-10 20:42:07
239.   JoeyP
It was Tomko.
6ip 9ks 3bbs 1h 0R
2007-04-10 20:42:10
240.   Underbruin
237 - ... I need to get more sleep.

Thanks for the correction. Still a lot of pitches for so few hits allowed.

2007-04-10 20:44:38
241.   still bevens
Can we get some run support for Brett here? Come on blue! The Rockies pitcher might have cracked the 70s in his pitch count by now. Our team's patience isn't much to write home about at the moment.
2007-04-10 20:47:47
242.   JoeyP
Rockies are chasing the low and away slider tonite.
2007-04-10 20:48:14
243.   Bob Timmermann
That ball took a fortuitous bounce back to the infield or that would have been a triple.
2007-04-10 20:52:01
244.   Rob M
Generous strike on that pitch - I'll take it.
2007-04-10 20:52:34
245.   Bluebleeder87
Wow that last pitch by Bills had great movement on it.
2007-04-10 20:53:38
246.   JoeyP
That was a mistake.
Pitch came right back over the middle of the plate.
2007-04-10 20:53:52
247.   capdodger
Poor Tomko.
2007-04-10 20:54:22
248.   capdodger
Lopez still stands a chance to win.
2007-04-10 20:54:33
249.   underdog
No Chad, bad Chad. No dessert for you. Sigh.
2007-04-10 20:56:03
250.   Bob Timmermann
[summoning up the spirit of Joe Morgan]
See Tomko's job is to win the game. He didn't. He didn't do the job. See back in Cincinnati, Jack Billingham would have gotten the win in that game.
[/summoning up the spirit of Joe Morgan]
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2007-04-10 20:56:06
251.   underdog
We're watching Billingsley's maturation process. Live!
2007-04-10 20:56:34
252.   Bluebleeder87
Feel bad for Tomko but I'm confident we'll score a few more runs on the Rockies pitchers.
2007-04-10 20:56:54
253.   JoeyP
Billz was fortunate the ump has a wide outside K zone. Baker could have walked on that 3-0 pitch.

I wonder if Billingsley struggles in the bullpen, whether they'll move him back to the rotation?

2007-04-10 20:57:44
254.   underdog
250 {summoning exorcist}
2007-04-10 20:58:06
255.   capdodger
251 A wise sage once said something about cows, steaks, and taking the butcher's word for it.
2007-04-10 20:59:50
256.   Frip
That last pitch by Billingsly was raucous. Mean intentions.
2007-04-10 21:01:13
257.   Uncle Miltie
I wonder if Billingsley struggles in the bullpen, whether they'll move him back to the rotation?
The Dodgers rewarding a young player for blowing a crafty veteran's gem of a game?

heh.

2007-04-10 21:01:34
258.   FirstMohican
253 - see 235
2007-04-10 21:04:27
259.   underdog
Well. That was weak. The Dodgers' "Blink and You'll Miss Our Half Inning" offense, yup.
2007-04-10 21:06:15
260.   twerp
Lately two of the most impressive Dodger pitchers have been Tomko and Hendrickson.

And this is not fiction writing class.

Some comment about conventional wisdom probably is called for here. But I pass.

2007-04-10 21:07:17
261.   JoeyP
Gonzo's lucky that ball didnt kick off the wall. His angle wasnt the best.
2007-04-10 21:07:24
262.   regfairfield
Should Gonzalez have cut that one off, or am I just having irrational hatred right now?
2007-04-10 21:09:15
263.   capdodger
Thanks, Chad.

Go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.

2007-04-10 21:09:17
264.   Andrew Shimmin
Candid video of Ken during his off hours.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciG-Xs7mBwU

2007-04-10 21:09:25
265.   regfairfield
Was Billingsley getting booed as he walked off the mound?
2007-04-10 21:10:44
266.   Gen3Blue
259 With the offense we are getting(particularly out of 3rd base and center field) are pitching staff could have an ERA under 3.00 and a losing record. Now thats a hard buritto to digest!
2007-04-10 21:10:48
267.   underdog
262 I'd deem that irrational hatred. His angle ended up being perfect even if he got a lucky bounce. But that seemed a double all the way.

Darn you Chad! You are testing our love and resolve.

2007-04-10 21:11:33
268.   Andrew Shimmin
264- There should be a mild language warning on that. People don't really watch youtube at work, do they?

Anyway. Sorry I didn't think to do it immediately.

2007-04-10 21:11:58
269.   regfairfield
267 Okay, it just seemed like it took him forever to get to that ball.
2007-04-10 21:13:50
270.   Frip
OK, the Gonzo ball had a lot of side spin so it skipped to the left quickly.
2007-04-10 21:13:52
271.   underdog
Well, that was effective.
2007-04-10 21:14:31
272.   regfairfield
Hey, Matt Holliday has no hair.
2007-04-10 21:14:35
273.   capdodger
1-2-3!!!
2007-04-10 21:14:56
274.   underdog
I was just saying, "Why are they leaving Beimel in to face Holliday?" Shows you what I know!
2007-04-10 21:15:09
275.   JoeyP
Thats why you never should chase pitches with the bases juiced.
2007-04-10 21:16:04
276.   regfairfield
If Joe Beimel keeps his up, I might think about trusting him by April 2008.
2007-04-10 21:17:32
277.   underdog
I trust Bob and Mark are enjoying their "My Baseball Game With Andre" conversation over there on the Rockies blog.
2007-04-10 21:17:51
278.   D4P
Betemit is gonna draw a lot of walks this year in the #8 spot
2007-04-10 21:18:03
279.   trainwreck
At least Betemit has gotten a couple walks.
2007-04-10 21:18:20
280.   JoeyP
Considering Betemit is 6'3, had a large K zone--surprised pitchers cant throw strikes to him.
2007-04-10 21:18:26
281.   PDH5204
Note to Dodgers' management: we won't all turn into pumpkins if Broxton goes for 1 and 2/3 and Saito goes for 1 and 1/3. Also, Beimel better get his own special collectors edition bobblehead doll this year for bailing us out big time. Now time for the Killer Tomato to do his thing.
2007-04-10 21:19:21
282.   regfairfield
I like putting a low discipline, good pop guy in the eight hole. More teams should do it.
2007-04-10 21:19:26
283.   underdog
Good eye, Betty!

I like the footage of Holliday tearing up his batting gloves to shreds after that d.p.

2007-04-10 21:20:00
284.   regfairfield
That would have been out last year.
2007-04-10 21:21:19
285.   D4P
Pierre has broken out of his slump!!!
2007-04-10 21:22:20
286.   capdodger
Running? Heck yeah.
2007-04-10 21:22:21
287.   underdog
Wow, a Juan Pierre sighting tonight!
2007-04-10 21:22:40
288.   Gen3Blue
Oh good, the old fake third throw to first. I begin to feel hopeful.
2007-04-10 21:22:54
289.   Underbruin
Come onnnnn, Russ!
2007-04-10 21:23:36
290.   regfairfield
What's the consensus on running here? Martin hits into a ton of double plays, but do you want to risk the sac fly opportunity?
2007-04-10 21:23:37
291.   JoeyP
Martin is such a smart hitter.
He seems to always work the count.
2007-04-10 21:24:43
292.   capdodger
290 I'd send him. Kim is slow to the plate.
2007-04-10 21:25:20
293.   Underbruin
290 - I think you have to leave the possibility for a sac fly there, but that's just me.
2007-04-10 21:25:39
294.   underdog
Is Kim auditioning for the ballet here?
2007-04-10 21:25:46
295.   mannyman
RussMar can do no wrong!!!
2007-04-10 21:25:59
296.   JoeyP
I wouldnt send him with 2 strikes.
Strike him out/throw him out DP chance there.
2007-04-10 21:26:20
297.   trainwreck
Playboy picked us to win the World Series.
2007-04-10 21:26:22
298.   capdodger
Cool.
2007-04-10 21:26:31
299.   Bob Timmermann
The sac fly! D4P will feel so conflicted over this.
2007-04-10 21:26:49
300.   JoeyP
Excellent AB by Martin.
Took 2 strikes, worked the count--executed.
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2007-04-10 21:27:17
301.   underdog
So, are we okay with that sacrifice fly? I'll take it.
2007-04-10 21:27:20
302.   D4P
299
Martin hit that flyball intentionally! I just know it!
2007-04-10 21:27:37
303.   Gen3Blue
Martin. Yes. I was getting sick of the fakes to third and first forom Kim.
2007-04-10 21:28:27
304.   capdodger
296 By not sending him you're leaving the chance for a GIDP with a catcher at the plate and a wild, lowball pitcher.

But water under the bridge.

2007-04-10 21:29:21
305.   overkill94
Late in the game, productive outs are a lot more valuable than early in the game.
2007-04-10 21:29:34
306.   Hallux Valgus
alright Sammy- the home plate umpire's kind to the slider away. bring it and bring it repeatedly.
2007-04-10 21:29:53
307.   JoeyP
The contrast of batting approach by Martin/Holiday in the 8th inning was perfect to see.

I wish the Dodgers had 8 guys with Martin's approach.

2007-04-10 21:30:09
308.   overkill94
Does Russ really hit into that many double-plays? He's got pretty decent speed so it's not like he's a sitting duck.
2007-04-10 21:30:14
309.   D4P
Late in the game, productive outs are a lot more valuable than early in the game

And a lot more productive

2007-04-10 21:31:13
310.   capdodger
304 Plus, it's unlikely that the Rocks would have thrown through. The run on third is far too important to risk an overthrow.
2007-04-10 21:32:44
311.   underdog
So if Saito is wobbly again, does this push us nearer to Broxton switching to closer? (Or closer to Broxton switching to nearer?)
2007-04-10 21:33:43
312.   overkill94
Old friend alert!
2007-04-10 21:33:44
313.   Frip
The Rockies helmet color would look good on a 67 Camaro.
2007-04-10 21:34:08
314.   regfairfield
308 Russ grounded into double plays 18.4% of the time last year, 23rd highest in baseball.
2007-04-10 21:34:56
315.   Bob Timmermann
Martin hit into 17 DPs last year. That was the most of any Dodger.

Kenny Lofton hit into 16!

2007-04-10 21:35:23
316.   JoeyP
Finley must be one of those 'play for the love of the game' guys.

He's 42yrs old, completely done, and a bench player for the Rockies.

2007-04-10 21:35:55
317.   Eric L
I saw Furcal in Rancho tonight...

He DHed against Colon and didn't do much, but he did seem to run with ease (to my untrained eye). Seems like he'll be back shortly with no problems.

DeWitt and DeJesus hit a couple of nice shots against Colon while the rest of team looked like A-hitters against a big league pitcher.

Bastardo got lit up in the first inning and had to leave in the 4th (?) due to injury.

2007-04-10 21:36:22
318.   regfairfield
Wow, Yorvit got slow rolled on a terrible call.
2007-04-10 21:37:01
319.   Daniel Zappala
Rockies announcers need to realize that it's not where the ball is caught, it's where it crosses the plate.
2007-04-10 21:37:15
320.   Bluebleeder87
Thank god for the pitcher friendly ump & great pitching by Tomko.
2007-04-10 21:37:25
321.   Frip
Pitch was a ball but whatever.
2007-04-10 21:38:03
322.   imperabo
319 Yeah but if it's caught in the dirt it would have to be an ephus pitch to have crossed the zone.
2007-04-10 21:38:13
323.   underdog
That was weird delayed call. But nicely done by Sammy! He's not going anywhere.
2007-04-10 21:38:32
324.   Frip
Eric L, where do you live?
2007-04-10 21:38:55
325.   JoeyP
Tomko did a good job with 9ks.
Billingsley's becoming an issue out of the bullpen.
Offense still sucks.

A win is a win.

Martin proving why he should stay in that #2 spot when Furcal comes back.

2007-04-10 21:39:43
326.   Hallux Valgus
321, see my 306.
2007-04-10 21:39:48
327.   underdog
That was actually a lot closer to a strike than Yorvit or the Rockies' announcers may think - it was in the zone but dropped, and then Martin dropped it making it look worse. But it crossed the plate, imho. Whatever, Torrealba was fooled by all of Saito's pitches anyway.
2007-04-10 21:40:05
328.   Daniel Zappala
322 It wasn't in the dirt, it was caught just below the strike zone and then caromed off Martin's glove and away a bit toward 1st base. It was very close to the strike zone as it crossed the plate. I Tivo'd back to make sure I was right.
2007-04-10 21:41:00
329.   caseybarker
Saito's slider is so pretty.
2007-04-10 21:41:05
330.   Bluebleeder87
319

I feel like the pitch was borderline, but Torrealba should know better then let a close pitch like that go threw atleast foul it off or something. JMO.

2007-04-10 21:41:39
331.   imperabo
325 Are we dreaming that Pierre will be dropped to 8th?
2007-04-10 21:42:31
332.   Eric L
324 My fiance had surgery last Friday and we are on spring break, so I'm currently residing at her parent's house in Mira Loma (Sky Country if you really know the area). It just so happened that we were about 15 minutes away from the stadium with nothing to do tonight.
2007-04-10 21:43:12
333.   adraymond
325. Agree on all counts. But I think the chances of Martin staying in the #2 hole are about nill. Not sure what to say about Bills but with Tomko's showing, the rotation seems set. For now at least.
2007-04-10 21:43:20
334.   JoeyP
I have a feeling Grady will drop Pierre. The media has picked up on Pierre's suckiness and they love Russ Martin.
2007-04-10 21:45:44
335.   Daniel Zappala
Pierre will probably get the benefit of the doubt for a while and slide to the #2 spot. But I wouldn't be surprised if Little changed eventually if Pierre continued performing this badly.
2007-04-10 21:46:27
336.   imperabo
334 He might actually be a very good 8th hitter. He'd probably draw a lot more walks there and set up the top of the order for the moderate power of Furcal and Martin to drive him in. No way it happens though.
2007-04-10 21:46:29
337.   Gen3Blue
What a wimp-I couldn't watch, but thank god for Sammy-I checked soon and it was over. Its about 1:00 a.m. in Massachusetts. Imagine this team without Russ Martin! He seems to account for half the runs provided and half the runs prevented.
2007-04-10 21:46:59
338.   Hallux Valgus
the first thing I taught my little leaguers was that a strike isn't between the numbers and the knees. A strike is where the umpire calls it, and the umpire was calling that fading breaking ball all night. Sammy's slider was the perfect pitch for tonight's ump.
2007-04-10 21:49:47
339.   Gen3Blue
On a normal team, a guy like Bill's would have had a starter spot and it probalbly would have given him confidence and he would be OK. As a reliever he's under more pressure, but he isn't doing that bad.
2007-04-10 21:58:43
340.   Bluebleeder87
339

Bills will get his shot as the 5th starter & from what I remember he ROCKED at the end of the season last year.

2007-04-10 21:59:35
341.   JoeyP
336- I like Pierre in the 8th spot also bc down there he can attempt to steal as much as he wants. If he gets caught, no big deal its not like he's running in front of the 3-4-5 hitters. And if he's successful, the pitcher can just bunt him over.

But putting an out maker like Pierre in front of the 3-4-5 guys seems to prevent big innings from getting going.

2007-04-10 22:00:15
342.   bluegold
339. Ask Tompko if Billingsly isn't doing that bad.
2007-04-10 22:28:31
343.   FirstMohican
I'd bat Pierre 9th. Seriously. It's essentially the same lineup except he gets way less ABs over the course of the year.
2007-04-10 22:46:40
344.   caseybarker
lol... the kcal anchor keeps calling Beimel Biemel.
2007-04-10 22:55:56
345.   underdog
I learned two interesting things from the Brett Tomko chat today:

That Tomko's dad named the Cleveland Cavaliers (and designed the original logo)

That Jason Schmidt owns a remote-controlled fart machine.

2007-04-10 22:57:58
346.   Jon Weisman
New post coming up top.

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