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Old 'Air Spieler' Doggett Uses Binoculars
2007-05-12 16:15
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

This one will wreak havoc on your eyes, but it's worth it. Jerry Doggett was a great No. 2 broadcaster for a kid to grow up listening to. (Doggett retired in 1987 and passed away in 1997.)

Thanks, as always, Bob.

Doggett2

* * *

Tonight's game:

Gameday

Retro Gameday

Comments (275)
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2007-05-12 16:34:16
1.   Bluebleeder87
That's weird he retired the year i became a rabid Dodger fan, I don't remember him all that much if at all.
2007-05-12 16:37:26
2.   Charenton
I remember listening with my father in the early 1970s to see if we could hear Jerry D say' "He hit that ball good…" which was not such an unfrequent experience…

I remember belatedly learning to appreciate Jerry when Ross Porter was hired.

Of course, no one compares favorably with Vin…

2007-05-12 17:04:17
3.   Linkmeister
I've said it here before; I grew up on Vin & Jerry in the early 60s on KFI. I never knew his biography, though. Thanks, Jon and Bob.
2007-05-12 17:08:10
4.   PalmdaleSteve1
Charenton,

I liked Ross and he had a heck of voice for announcing and calling games.

What was the true deal with his departure?

2007-05-12 17:16:39
5.   Disabled List
Jayson Stark apparently doesn't think much of the Dodgers stars throughout the years. His new book lists the five most overrated/underrated players at each position, and calls Koufax, Garvey and Sax the most overrated LHP, 1B and 2B (respectively) in baseball history. Drysdale is the 2nd most overrated RHP, Hodges is the 5th most overrated 1B, and Juan Pierre is the 3rd most overrated CF. (He does have Duke Snider as the most underrated CF ever.)

Stark takes some very bold stands in the book, calling attention to underrated, overlooked no-name players like Hank Greenberg, Yogi Berra, Rogers Hornsby and Babe Ruth. It's quite the work of baseball scholarship.

2007-05-12 17:17:44
6.   Suffering Bruin
My reward for being incredibly lucky is tonight. I'm the guy who won the Griddle NCAA basketball pool and if you think that's the last time I'll tell y'all that, you don't know me.

Four tix, first game with the wife. Full report tonight. Thank you Bob T, thank you Toy Cannon and no, I'm not going to thank the Florida Gators.

2007-05-12 17:20:28
7.   LA Native
I grew up listening to Jerry D., Vin, and Ross. I never was a big Ross fan. His voice was alright and he had a decent way of calling the games. Overall, I grew more annoyed with him, since I never thought he had a real great understanding of the game and those meaningless stats just became unbearable. Who cares about how the Dodgers played on Sunday night games on astroturf when the temperature was less than 70 degress.

Given that, he seemed like a real class guy and you could tell when he handled Dodger Talk. When McCourt hung him out to dry it really turned me against McCourt. He was a loyal guy for 25 years or so and even if he wasn't the greatest announcer not letting him know that you are dumping him until after the year was in poor taste. The whole thing was so poorly handled, I've never fully forgiven McCourt. The O'Malley's would never have botched something like so badly.

2007-05-12 17:21:34
8.   LA Native
5

He really called Babe Ruth overlooked????

2007-05-12 17:22:33
9.   Daniel B
I've got 2 free tickets to tonights game to anyone who is available to go. They are in 14 Reserve, Row AA. Tickets can be e-mailed.

E-Mail me at barkin.daniel37@gmail.com if interested.

2007-05-12 17:24:11
10.   Suffering Bruin
4 Frank McCourt at times has an urge to fire people. I think it's pathological. Porter was one of the guys he let go.

5 If one more--one more--person talks about Koufax being overrated, I'm not going to be responsible for my actions. The only reason why people think Sandy is overrated is because he was virtually unhittable at Dodger Stadium and a little bit hittable on the road. Therefore, Dodger Stadium made Sandy Koufax.

Everyone who played against him said he was the best. Everyone who saw him said the same thing. Koufax overrated? Compared to what? Walter Johnson? I mean... I don't get it, I really don't.

2007-05-12 17:24:52
11.   Bluebleeder87
i guess Josh Hamilton will get a few more at bats today, I'm rooting for the guys career but hopefully he'll go o'fer against us.
2007-05-12 17:25:10
12.   Daniel B
9 That was quick. Tickets are taken
2007-05-12 17:27:55
13.   old dodger fan
I started listening to Vin and Jerry about 1960. My dad and I would go to Dodger games at the Coliseum and later Dodger Stadium and would take a transistor radio and listen to them call the game.

Many a summer evening were spent sitting in the backyard listening to them.

They were great memories and a big part of why I am still a Dodger fan.

I had wondered what happened to Jerry. Thanks for the report.

2007-05-12 17:29:05
14.   Bluebleeder87
Frank McCourt at times has an urge to fire people.

or not hire one Vlad Guerrero.

2007-05-12 17:29:23
15.   Bob Timmermann
All of my new baseball books are coming in at the same time. I'm going to be busy doing some reading.

Look for my review of Dave Winfield's book soon. It's a quick read and mostly devoid of substance. Tim Kurkjian's book is ready as is Eig's book on Jackie Robinson and Posnanski's book on Buck O'Neil.

2007-05-12 17:31:22
16.   Curtis Lowe
11 - Josh Hamiltons success over drug/alcohol abuse is over-rated.
2007-05-12 17:38:25
17.   Bob Timmermann
AZ down early to Houston 8-3. Giants down early to the Rockies 4-1.

Braden Looper vs. Chris Young in the STL-SD matchup.

2007-05-12 17:38:27
18.   ToyCannon
Loved Jerry Dogget. His enthusiasm for the game will always be remembered.

10
Say hi to Manny who will be sitting in front of you. He and his girlfriend are also HS teachers. He's an assistant Varsity baseball coach and played in the KC Low minors. He played with Lance Carter and disliked him so we know he has good taste.

2007-05-12 17:41:12
19.   Disabled List
8 Well, he said Babe Ruth was underrated as far as left-handed pitchers go.

10 His argument against Koufax was based on the six crummy seasons he turned in before Sandy flipped the switch in 1961.

2007-05-12 17:41:19
20.   Dodgers49
Interesting game going on in Pittsburgh with Atlanta leading 6-0 after six.
2007-05-12 17:42:17
21.   Bob Timmermann
Jason Bay breaks up Chuck James's no-hit bid with one out in the 7th.
2007-05-12 17:46:17
22.   scooplew
5 Many people feel that Koufax from 1962 through 1966 had the most dominant five-year period by any pitcher in major league history....Perhaps Jayson Stark is overrated.
2007-05-12 17:47:25
23.   Dodgers49
21 - Apparently I jinxed it just by mentioning it. Maybe Jon was right after all. :-)
2007-05-12 17:47:44
24.   Curtis Lowe
Jasons who spell their name Jayon are over-rated!
2007-05-12 17:49:10
25.   scooplew
From listening to countless games growing up, my feeling was that Jerry Doggett was a heckuva nice guy -- as is/was Vin -- and a perfect complement to Scully. Like Scully, Doggett never inserted himself into the game, something I cannot say about many current announcers. There were times that Doggett would become a bit flustered in calling a convoluted play, but, overall, he was a solid No. 2 in the booth.
2007-05-12 17:50:39
26.   old dodger fan
The '63 Yankees didn't think Koufax was overrated.
2007-05-12 17:52:01
27.   LAT
Bruin, I'll see you there tonight. OK you and 50,000 people, give or take a few thousand. BTW, are Bob and Connon letting you keep the cap tonight.
2007-05-12 17:57:26
28.   Bob Timmermann
I don't want any baseball cap that's in distress.
2007-05-12 17:58:25
29.   Bob Timmermann
Willie Harris is 4 for 5 for the Braves tonight, but I'm telling you again, it won't last!
2007-05-12 17:59:03
30.   Bluebleeder87
i just googled Jason Stark & his face already annoys me.
2007-05-12 17:59:17
31.   Izzy
I just picked up a book at Barnes and Noble called "Unhittable." The concensus among varous players and commentators was that Koufax was the best, ever. So, this Stark guy sounds more like a National Enquirer type, splash reporter. I really liked Doggett and Porter. I always will have good memories of them both. I did NOT, however, like Lon Simmons.
2007-05-12 17:59:45
32.   Dodgers49
Hot-hitting Abreu awaits phone call from Dodgers

>>> "We're supposed to move (Abreu) around," Bundy said. "He's very comfortable at second and short, and he's getting a lot better at third. He's a natural middle infielder." <<<

http://www.lvrj.com/sports/7476012.html

2007-05-12 18:03:25
33.   Bob Timmermann
Same lineup tonight as last night for the Dodgers except for the pitcher, via ITD.
2007-05-12 18:04:24
34.   Eric Enders
"Many people feel that Koufax from 1962 through 1966 had the most dominant five-year period by any pitcher in major league history."

True. However, those people are dead wrong. Koufax's five-year run pales in comparison to what Pedro Martinez or even Randy Johnson did. There's not really a legitimate way to argue that Koufax was the most dominating pitcher ever.

2007-05-12 18:04:24
35.   Bluebleeder87
Here are Griffey Jr's #'s against Penny

at bats 24
hits 9
home runs 3
on base %917
slugging 444
batting average .375

2007-05-12 18:05:28
36.   LA Native
I heard an interview with Vin, in which he said he of the other announcers he worked with he was really only close with Jerry Doggett. He had his limits I agree, but he was very pleasant to listen to.

Of all the Dodger announcers, I would place only Don Drysdale (and Vin of course) above Doggett. Drysdale's call of the Gibson home run is still my favorite, although it is rarely played.

There used to be a Dodger site that you could download old radio clips including Gibson's home run and Monday's homer in 81 against the Expos that Jerry Doggett called. They brought back a lot of good memories. Not sure if there is anywhere now that you could possibly get them from though.

2007-05-12 18:07:46
37.   LA Native
31

Who is Lon Simmons?

2007-05-12 18:10:05
38.   Curtis Lowe
34 - How so? Koufax had more shutouts and no hitters than both those pitchers and two world series.
2007-05-12 18:11:57
39.   Eric Enders
"Many people feel that Koufax from 1962 through 1966 had the most dominant five-year period by any pitcher in major league history."

True. However, those people are dead wrong. Koufax's five-year run pales in comparison to what Pedro Martinez or the Johnson brothers (Walter and Randy) did, to name just three. There's not really a legitimate way to argue that Koufax had the most dominating five-year run ever.

I love Koufax and am grateful for the championships he brought us, but his actual record leaves little doubt that he is one of the most overrated pitchers of all time. What's funny about that is that his so-called "lousy" years are actually *under*rated by most people. It's not like he was terrible before 1961; he was average or slightly better.

(By the way, I'm grateful for the posting of the Doggett article, but there's just no way I can make these eyes read that teeny print.)

2007-05-12 18:12:33
40.   Eric Enders
Sorry about the quasi-double post, I hit the button before I was finished.
2007-05-12 18:13:44
41.   JoeyP
Abreu would be one of the shortest 3rd basemen in the league. He's only listed at 5'9.
2007-05-12 18:14:11
42.   Eric Enders
28 The ad campaign certainly left room for doubt as to whether it's the cap or the Dodgers who are distressed.
2007-05-12 18:14:42
43.   Eric Enders
41 Which isn't too far from the actual height of our current 3B.
2007-05-12 18:16:11
44.   Eric Enders
36 Those clips used to be on Dodgers.com before the site was blown up by MLB Advanced Media and replaced with the vastly inferior paint-by-numbers version.
2007-05-12 18:16:18
45.   natepurcell
41

abreu isnt a long term player at 3b.

and frankly, i dont really think his numbers warrant a callup right now. His XBHs have regressed lately and he still needs to work on that k/bb ratio.

2007-05-12 18:17:14
46.   Bluebleeder87
41
i don't trust baseball,basketball or football heights anymore Natepurcel spilled the beans on that stuff the other day.
2007-05-12 18:19:30
47.   natepurcell
46

usually if heights are going to be embellished, players are going to be listed taller then they really are. In abreu's case, his height is pretty accurate. although he is short, he has alot of muscle on him with pretty decent batspeed. So hes going to be a doubles/gap to gap hitter.

2007-05-12 18:20:05
48.   Bumsrap
Long fly ball, way back, way way back, iiiits....... caught just shor of the warning track.
2007-05-12 18:23:54
49.   LA Native
45

Which is why I don't really understand why he is playing there. Let him play 2nd or SS. I don't think this experiment of putting prospects in positions they are totally unsuited for when they play a more important position just fine is very smart long term. I think it only takes away from their development after a while.

I am okay with Loney trying out the outfield once in a while to see if he has some natural talent there (it appears he doesn't), but forget it with LaRoche and Abreu at 3rd.

2007-05-12 18:24:18
50.   Bumsrap
Duke Snider also had a great five year run and then two extracurricular car accidents hurt his knees and, well he has to settle for underrated.
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2007-05-12 18:25:43
51.   Bumsrap
Especially when Nomar has had a career playing on the left side.
2007-05-12 18:26:19
52.   natepurcell
49

the most simple explanation relates all the way back to Colletti and his paranoia of limited depth. He wants a backup plan for plan A, a back up plan for that back up plan, and so on and so on.

He's just trying to hedge his bets in the situation where Laroche suffers a Kouzmanoff type beginning to his major league career.

2007-05-12 18:27:27
53.   Curtis Lowe
49 - The goal is to have a team of Chones Clones. Everyone knows Chone (pronounced Sh~Awe>nn) Figgins (pronounced Sk-Wra-P-ee) is how every player at every position should be.
2007-05-12 18:28:17
54.   natepurcell
Personally if i was part of the decision makers, I would tell Abreu that from here on out, he is going to strictly be a shortstop and work on perfecting his craft at shortstop and the heir to the Dodgers' shortstop position after Furcal's deal runs out.
2007-05-12 18:29:29
55.   Bumsrap
If Abreu is going to be a middle infielder as soon as 2008, it wouldn't hurt to give him some experience in the bigs even if it is at third this year.
2007-05-12 18:30:02
56.   natepurcell
Is Canuck around? I really want to hear your thoughts on Xavier Paul and his prospects of becoming a productive major league centerfielder. What do you think of his run in AA so far? Is he just on a hot streak or do you think its for real and hes turhing into a premier prospect again?
2007-05-12 18:33:30
57.   Bluebleeder87
Which is why I don't really understand why he is playing there. Let him play 2nd or SS. I don't think this experiment of putting prospects in positions they are totally unsuited for when they play a more important position just fine is very smart long term. I think it only takes away from their development after a while.

nice post. 54 i like the way you think.

2007-05-12 18:33:59
58.   LA Native
54

May need Abreu to take over at 2nd next year first. That seems more natural and necessary to me.

I know Colletti is doing this for depth reasons. I still don't like it. It just shows you, he is not into developing players long term as much as he should be.

Now Kuo is going back to the bullpen in the minors and Bills is already there. It all seems wrong to me. How about Kuo starting and Tomko going back to the bullpen?

2007-05-12 18:34:58
59.   Dodgers49
I think most people when comparing pitchers take them at their absolute best. So Sandy's early years when he was trying to master his game doesn't concern me. If I had to win the seventh game of the World Series and was allowed to choose among the following pitchers as my starter for that most important game:

1). Sandy Koufax
2). Pedro Martinez
3). Randy Johnson

My choice would be Sandy Koufax.

2007-05-12 18:38:33
60.   Bob Timmermann
59
But couldn't that decision be influenced by the fact that Koufax was the only one of the three to start a Game 7 of a World Series? Johnson won a Game 7 as a reliever and Pedro has never gotten that far.
2007-05-12 18:38:38
61.   natepurcell
May need Abreu to take over at 2nd next year first. That seems more natural and necessary to me.

Well, the way Kent has been getting ABs, his 2008 option is going to automatically vest. If it doesnt or he wants to retire or something, Wilson Betemit could be an option at 2b.

2007-05-12 18:40:08
62.   LA Native
59

Me too, although statistically Johnson and Martinez are right there, especially considering they pitched in a more hitter friendly era. Koufax was on 4 world champs, compared to 1 each for Martinez and Johnson, although that is a very unfair stat to say the least. I'd still go with Koufax, although I'd admit I am biased.

2007-05-12 18:43:21
63.   Dodgers49
60 - Nope. I've watched each of the three pitch many times and I was most impressed with Koufax.
2007-05-12 18:44:19
64.   LA Native
61

I wonder why Betemit never gets any time at 2nd now to rest Kent. I'd rather see him there than Martinez, especially since he is replacing Kent, probably our biggest power threat. If LaRoche keeps working out, hopefully we see Wilson at 2nd on a spot start basis.

2007-05-12 18:44:53
65.   gpellamjr
58 Kuo is in the bullpen for LV now? Where did you hear this? This is getting infuriating. Someone please explain this to me.

If I knew more about the internet/baseball I would start up www.firenedcolletti.com.

2007-05-12 18:45:30
66.   overkill94
Is it really stunting Abreu's development by giving him some time at 3B? If he's already an above-average 2B, will he really lose much by taking a little time at another position? It's not like he just took 4 years of Japanese class and now they're trying to get him to learn Latin as well.
2007-05-12 18:48:42
67.   overkill94
BTW, I went to the Inland Empire game last night (our high-A team) and got a look at some of the prospects. Dewitt looked pretty solid with a hit up the middle and a homer. He has a nice line-drive swing and hit the ball hard. Lucas May and Russell Mitchell also hit homers, but I don't think either did much in the game besides that.

The intriguing guy was the starting pitcher, James McDonald. He seemed to be throwing fairly hard (92 or so) and had a pretty wicked slurve (more slider than curve). All I've found on him is that he's a semi-prospect and was originally drafted as a 1B. Nate, Canuck, any info on this guy?

2007-05-12 18:49:02
68.   gpellamjr
66 The thing is that Latin is the more important language in the acquisition of true human happiness, so that adding Latin to Japanese can only help. Having Abreu play 3B has nothing to do with true human happiness.
2007-05-12 18:51:33
69.   LA Native
65

In LA Times

66

You are right it is not the end of the world, but I am sure he still has things to work on at 2nd. He'll probably never be a major league 3B other than a fill-in or emergency guy, besides don't we need power at that spot. If not there, then where are we ever going to get some power?

2007-05-12 18:52:44
70.   Bluebleeder87
who new! Jeff Branley is doing radio & t.v. for the Reds, that guy knows his pitching.
2007-05-12 18:54:39
71.   natepurcell
67

you're right that he is a semi prospect. the only thing holding him back in the eyes of most prospect watchers is that hes been a tad old for his league. If he continues his success in the CAL league and if the dodgers promote him midseason to AA and his continues his success there, then we can start talking about him becoming a legit major league pitcher. He has transitioned really well to the mound though and the Ks are outstanding to see.

2007-05-12 18:55:28
72.   Dodgers49
65. Kuo is in the bullpen for LV now? Where did you hear this?

>>> Hong-Chih Kuo will make his first relief appearance at Las Vegas today. The left-hander has made three starts there since recovering from a shoulder injury, but the Dodgers want him to move to the bullpen temporarily to become an option when they go to 12 pitchers <<<

http://tinyurl.com/2v64xh

2007-05-12 19:18:20
73.   Bluebleeder87
Hoping Alex Gonzales hits into a DP right here.
2007-05-12 19:30:16
74.   Gen3Blue
Good Penny? I fear I sense work for Bills ahead.
2007-05-12 19:30:51
75.   Indiana Jon
Quiet in here tonight.
2007-05-12 19:35:09
76.   Indiana Jon
Looks like Miguel Pinango has jumped from Class A up to Vegas to start the game tonight.
2007-05-12 19:35:27
77.   Jimi Shelter
I was thinking the same thing. If this keeps up, I may have to quit lurking and start posting!
2007-05-12 19:37:59
78.   Bob Timmermann
75
I had fallen asleep, but not too much of the game gone.

My body feels a lot better.

2007-05-12 19:39:35
79.   Jimi Shelter
Way to go, Martin!
2007-05-12 19:39:50
80.   Icaros
78

Ah, yes...another Timmermann nap update.

2007-05-12 19:43:18
81.   Bluebleeder87
i really feel that Russell Martin belongs in the all-star game.
2007-05-12 19:44:26
82.   Bluebleeder87
78

Bob getting his beauty sleep & feels allot better now.

2007-05-12 19:47:30
83.   Sam DC
So, are Yankee fans getting on Rodriguez yet now that he's stopped hitting home runs?
2007-05-12 19:49:24
84.   Bob Timmermann
80
Naps are a vital part of my day. In this case, my nap has led to a stiff neck.
2007-05-12 19:49:58
85.   Bob Timmermann
83
They blame it all on the conditioning coach.
2007-05-12 19:52:28
86.   Sam DC
I need to give my conditioning coach a good talking to as well.
2007-05-12 19:53:04
87.   Sam DC
Albert Pujols has done something run scoring on a full count with the bases loaded, but Gameday won't move along and tell me what.
2007-05-12 19:55:03
88.   overkill94
87 Fielding error, two runs scored
2007-05-12 19:56:03
89.   Branch Rickey
Silly outfielders. When will they ever learn to play Pierre right where he hit that one? It's not like he's going to hit one over their head if they do.
2007-05-12 19:56:58
90.   Bob Timmermann
Sledge then had ANOTHER fly ball tip off his glove and THREE runs scored.

Cards lead 5-0.

2007-05-12 19:58:05
91.   Branch Rickey
Martin-Safe
Pierre- Out.
2007-05-12 19:58:17
92.   Bluebleeder87
is Lohse french like La Roche?
2007-05-12 19:58:58
93.   Bob Timmermann
Lohse is Native American, but I don't know where his last name cames from.
2007-05-12 19:59:03
94.   Sam DC
Thx.
2007-05-12 20:00:06
95.   Bob Timmermann
"Comes from."

My typing hasn't woken up.

2007-05-12 20:01:09
96.   Branch Rickey
92. Yes, it is French like La Roche which is to say not at all.
Andy is, I believe, Mexican and Lohse seems to be a Danish name.
2007-05-12 20:02:32
97.   Gen3Blue
Tony Perez?
2007-05-12 20:08:17
98.   Branch Rickey
92 The story of Andy's last name:
http://tinyurl.com/2vg7bp
2007-05-12 20:08:28
99.   overkill94
97 I got it on about my fifth try. Even then, I couldn't remember his name, just a memorable trait he had (my dad filled in the name for me).
2007-05-12 20:11:24
100.   Gen3Blue
A mighty clout for Gonzalez
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2007-05-12 20:14:51
101.   MollyKnight
Sorry if this is OT or just old news, but does anybody else think it's funny that the two songs Andre Ethier uses for his at-bats are "Forgot about Dre" and "Still a D.R.E."?

Hehehehehe.

2007-05-12 20:16:58
102.   Gen3Blue
Heck, I think Laroche may have the most IBBs on the team.
Woah, that was close. I would hate to have that against me.
2007-05-12 20:17:26
103.   Bob Timmermann
Sam,
Are they ever going to start playing again in DC?
2007-05-12 20:18:32
104.   Gen3Blue
Vin invokes Dick Pole.
2007-05-12 20:18:42
105.   Bob Timmermann
LaRoche does indeed lead the team in IBB. He has 3. Kent and Gonzalez have 2.
2007-05-12 20:19:30
106.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers team has 9 IBBs. Barry Bonds has 14.
2007-05-12 20:20:53
107.   Blaine
This may be the weakest four runs ever. Yes, I am exaggerating...or am I?
2007-05-12 20:20:58
108.   Indiana Jon
This inning is crazy. They are barely hitting the ball and have scored 4.
2007-05-12 20:20:59
109.   overkill94
It's dink city baby!
2007-05-12 20:21:02
110.   Gen3Blue
What a mighty display of offense.
2007-05-12 20:21:20
111.   Branch Rickey
Three consecutive Dodgers succeed with the bases loaded. Doesn't that equal our total for the year?
2007-05-12 20:21:48
112.   Blaine
I guess that we should take them any way we can get them.
2007-05-12 20:22:21
113.   Bob Timmermann
This helps the Dodgers batting average with the bases loaded. And perhaps indicates how deceptive it can be.
2007-05-12 20:22:44
114.   dkminnick
This is no time to be complaining, but how do Pierre and Nomar both swing at the first pitch right after the pitcher has walked in a run and gone 3-1 to the next hitter? Pierre got SO lucky on that blooper.
2007-05-12 20:22:46
115.   Indiana Jon
This is easy. We're killing the ball.
2007-05-12 20:23:34
116.   Gen3Blue
Holy cow, Nomar did something useful. And I was getting use to him hitting only when it didn't matter. And he comes up w/ a mighty smash.
2007-05-12 20:23:38
117.   Disabled List
Lohse is on the ropes, struggling to throw strikes, and Pierre swings at the first pitch and pops it up.

But it was a really, really good pop-up.

2007-05-12 20:24:32
118.   Bob Timmermann
Pierre's single marked the first time he has driven in more than one run in a game. Not that the other Dodgers are brimming in high RBI totals.
2007-05-12 20:24:53
119.   D4P
Does anyone really like this team? I guess the pitching staff is likable, but singles on "Soft pop ups to second base" are getting old. Baseball shouldn't "work" that way. It's actually kind of annoying.
2007-05-12 20:26:16
120.   Bluebleeder87
we tipi toad our way to 6 runs
2007-05-12 20:26:31
121.   Bob Timmermann
119
I dare say there young squire, you are not a fan of scientific baseball?
2007-05-12 20:28:30
122.   Branch Rickey
Annoyed is not my first reaction following any Dodger 5-run inning.
2007-05-12 20:28:30
123.   old dodger fan
119 I enjoy scoring runs and I enjoy winning. Yeah I like this team but our offense is not good, at least not yet. I have hope the Furcal will improve, that LaRoche will be an improvement and that Normar will improve although I have the least amount of confidence in Nomar of the 3.
2007-05-12 20:29:06
124.   D4P
121
This season is ruining my faith in scientific baseball.
2007-05-12 20:29:30
125.   Sam DC
103 Started a few minutes ago and the Marlins immediately put two on the board. Levale Speigner (Turkmeni-Angolan, right?) got out of an ugly bases loaded jam with two big Ks.
2007-05-12 20:31:00
126.   old dodger fan
Lohse threw 40 pitches in the 4th. If Penny makes quick work of the 5th Lohse won't get a chance to catch his breath.
2007-05-12 20:31:05
127.   Sam DC
How can the Marlins be any good running Aaron Boone out at first?
2007-05-12 20:31:24
128.   Bluebleeder87
sufferin Bruin must be enjoying the weirdness of todays game at the stadium.
2007-05-12 20:31:36
129.   gpellamjr
119 I love the potential of this team. I really like the pitching. But I have come to despise the way this team is being managed, both on the field and in the front office. Yet I root, root, root. Before and after every game I pray that Juan Pierre will be traded, but during the game I am ecstatic when he gets a hit or steals a base. It's about as reasonable a thing as the way anyone feels about his sports team.
2007-05-12 20:32:13
130.   old dodger fan
126 Whoops-now he can catch his breath, he's got 4 days off.
2007-05-12 20:32:17
131.   alexx
119
I agree. Being a fan of this team makes me feel like a singles-loving pansy.
2007-05-12 20:32:41
132.   Connector
It's 6:30 AM here. I came back from taking the dog for her morning ambulations to find Penny getting a walk and a RBI. I then got set to go to the grocery store for rolls and chocolate milk while watching the Dodgers (incl. Pierre...) score the other 4 runs.

That was nice.

2007-05-12 20:33:44
133.   Bob Timmermann
127
The Marlins really aren't all that good. But they're playing the Nats tonight, so they must look like the Braves/Brewers/Mets.
2007-05-12 20:34:35
134.   Blaine
132 Where is "here?"
2007-05-12 20:34:56
135.   D4P
I have a hard time understand how we're scoring so many runs. Offensive production:

1B: Poor
2B: Good
SS: Terrible
3B: Terrible
LF: Mediocre
CF: Terrible
RF: Mediocre
C: Very good

We have one good hitter and one very good hitter, and that's it. I just don't get it.

2007-05-12 20:35:53
136.   Connector
134 Ma'ale Adumim. It's about 5 miles east of Jerusalem.
2007-05-12 20:41:30
137.   mikethinksblue
JAIBBFAL
2007-05-12 20:41:46
138.   Bob Timmermann
136
Can you go outside and wave to us?

http://tinyurl.com/272ksy

Is your home visible?

2007-05-12 20:42:07
139.   Gen3Blue
IBB LaRoche. He has a reputation already.
2007-05-12 20:42:21
140.   Chiron Brown
It just goes to show, you don't have to hit the ball hard or far, you just have to hit it where they ain't.

Besides, hitting the opposition with a shotgun blast lacks the grace and subtlety of the Dodger Death of a Thousand Cuts.

2007-05-12 20:42:29
141.   Blaine
OK, Brad, show 'em again.
2007-05-12 20:44:08
142.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers have 12 walks from the 9 hole and 10 from the 2 hole.
2007-05-12 20:45:02
143.   old dodger fan
When was our last HR?
2007-05-12 20:45:06
144.   Branch Rickey
142. Wow. That's bizarre. That's Juan Pierre.
2007-05-12 20:46:15
145.   Bob Timmermann
Olmedo Saenz homered three days ago in Florida.
2007-05-12 20:47:14
146.   Bluebleeder87
on games like this i wouldn't mind if Josh Hamilton hit one as far as he could, maybe even out of the stadium.

ps the bases would have to be empty though.

2007-05-12 20:47:14
147.   Gen3Blue
135 I know I am mostly blowing off steam, but if Martin's the only one who is going to do anything, why the heck not play our young prospects. I am embarassed, having watched many great D's teams, seeing outfielders who every body takes the extra base on, and infielders who have to rest every five days. This is not good ball.
2007-05-12 20:47:44
148.   Sam DC
Inside the Park home run for Austin Kearns. Ball caromed hard off the wall in the left center gap.
2007-05-12 20:50:31
149.   old dodger fan
148 Go Nats. You will get to see the Dodgers very soon.
2007-05-12 20:50:51
150.   gpellamjr
This year Penny has thrown the ball very hard, but it's very straight, and he has been pitching to contact. How has he been so successful? Those of you (and that's about all of you) who know more about baseball than I do, please tell me how this works.
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2007-05-12 20:51:09
151.   Bluebleeder87
we gotta hand it to Penny this year he's giving us allot of innings. good job Brad Penny.
2007-05-12 20:51:17
152.   Sam DC
Bob Carpenter says it's the first ITP in Nationals' history.

"Nationals' history" being a term of some controversy, of course.

2007-05-12 20:51:28
153.   Chiron Brown
136 Have a Maccabee for me.
2007-05-12 20:51:49
154.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers have 8 different players with homers. The Cardinals have just 7 and the Twins have had only 5 different players hit homers.
2007-05-12 20:53:55
155.   overkill94
150 Location, location, location

Plus, he has a good downward plane on the ball, which negates some of the straightness as far as the batter's concerned.

2007-05-12 20:54:18
156.   Indiana Jon
154
The Dodgers will have 9 if they ever decide to call Kemp back.
2007-05-12 20:55:11
157.   old dodger fan
156 Or JP hits one tonight.
2007-05-12 20:55:13
158.   Bob Timmermann
Endy Chavez had an inside the park homer for Montreal on June 20, 2003 at Stade Olympique
2007-05-12 20:56:46
159.   old dodger fan
158 You are a wealth of information.
2007-05-12 20:57:37
160.   Gen3Blue
154 If we can run 45 players through the roster this year, we may hit 43 HRs this year.
I'm afraid Furcals steals total will go down this year, but I'll show some restraint and not reveal why.
2007-05-12 20:58:20
161.   Indiana Jon
Sometimes when I'm bored, I watch this site just to catch Bob's random facts.
2007-05-12 20:59:03
162.   mikethinksblue
Does JP have to swing at every pitch?
2007-05-12 20:59:13
163.   Icaros
161

Don't forget his nap updates.

2007-05-12 20:59:13
164.   Connector
138 LOL, I love the internet, don't you?

I'm waving, but it's overcast this morning so I don't think you can see me. You can see my apartment though. If you triangulate points "C" and "D" to the west, you'll end up at a dog-leg in the road. My apartment is next to the dog-leg, to the east. (It's a 1/4 inch east of the light brown snake like image on the map.)

2007-05-12 20:59:58
165.   LADfan in IL
162 yes, I believe it's in his contract.
2007-05-12 21:00:33
166.   nick
I've never seen a ballgame where one team got this many cheap hits--
2007-05-12 21:01:14
167.   Bluebleeder87
157

I'll streak across Dodger Stadium if that happens.

2007-05-12 21:03:38
168.   Bob Timmermann
They're not all random.

Although Juan Pierre is tied with Omar Vizquel and Corey Patterson for most sacrifices by non-pitchers with 5!

2007-05-12 21:03:47
169.   Greg Brock
I fell asleep and missed the first five innings. I believe it's called "Pulling a Timmermann."

I gather our 6 runs were not a power explosion.

2007-05-12 21:04:14
170.   Connector
138
LOL. I love the internet, don't you?

I'm waving. The sky is overcast, however, so I don't think you can see me. You can see my apartment, though. If you triangulate points "c" and "d" to the west, you'll find a dog-leg in the road. My apartment is above the dog-leg, to the east. (It's about 1/4 inch away from the head of the light brown snake-like image on the map.)

2007-05-12 21:05:08
171.   Indiana Jon
168
I was just wondering, which National League relief pitcher has the most sacrifices this year?
2007-05-12 21:06:18
172.   Indiana Jon
170
That was deja vu all over again.
2007-05-12 21:06:27
173.   LADfan in IL
169 Steiner says the Dodgers are paper-cutting the Reds to death. That should be all you need to know.
2007-05-12 21:06:39
174.   Bob Timmermann
170

You should put up a big Sandy Koufax picture on your roof for the next time the satellite passes by.

2007-05-12 21:07:07
175.   Connector
164 170

I'm in a deva-vu warp.

2007-05-12 21:07:08
176.   StolenMonkey86
149 - I'll see one of those games too, and maybe the Dodgers will actually win a game in front of me. Already, the following will be different from the previous live Dodgers games I've seen:

1) No Odalis Perez
2) JD Drew will not go 0-5 for either team

2007-05-12 21:07:41
177.   old dodger fan
168 Let me try my hand at random facts.

A list of the top 25 NLers in AB's (not PA's) in 2006 reveals that JP has the 2nd lowest OBP among them. Jeff Franceour was lowest although he has rebounded this year.

How was that?

2007-05-12 21:09:29
178.   Gen3Blue
169 I'm still nervous about are lead. Someone said "the Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away." If there was a true way of determining earned runs our only one would be the one Russell Martin drove in early.
2007-05-12 21:10:23
179.   Bob Timmermann
171
Looks the aforementioned Levale Speigner along with Aaron Sele have had sacrifices while appearing in a game as a reliever.
2007-05-12 21:10:52
180.   Gen3Blue
177 informative. But Bob has no worries yet.
2007-05-12 21:10:56
181.   old dodger fan
Good move Grady. Brad looks tired.
2007-05-12 21:11:59
182.   StolenMonkey86
178 - Job 1:21

But I disagree. If you walk the pitcher with the bases loaded and two outs, that's Grabowski principle territory.

2007-05-12 21:12:07
183.   Indiana Jon
179
Thanks Bob. Sorry if my asking that delayed your next nap in any way.
2007-05-12 21:12:17
184.   Bob Timmermann
180
I'm more worried about Greg Brock's ability to outnap me.
2007-05-12 21:12:19
185.   Connector
174

A Dodger-blue poster would stand out better. Now that's a thought.

2007-05-12 21:12:29
186.   Greg Brock
I'm assuming we just hit a bunch of gorks and dying quails and duck farts and seeing eye singles.

Box score says zero extra base hits. We had one yesterday, and that was Nomar's Texas Leaguer off Phillips's glove down the first base line.

Zero XBH's. Jeebus.

2007-05-12 21:13:32
187.   Greg Brock
184 Cleaning the house does that to me. I have no cleaning stamina.
2007-05-12 21:14:01
188.   StolenMonkey86
181 - Grady seems to act more sensibly around some players, Penny being one.
2007-05-12 21:14:43
189.   mikethinksblue
186 Most of them were barely even hits. Think bloop pop fly's the outfielders couldn't get to, and squib grounders the infielders couldn't make a play on.
2007-05-12 21:15:21
190.   Indiana Jon
186
The hardest hit ball in that inning may have been the intentional walk to LaRoche.
2007-05-12 21:16:40
191.   Bob Timmermann
J. Kent walked

A real walk!
- L. Gonzalez singled to left, J. Kent to second

A decent hit

- R. Martin struck out swinging
D'oh!

- A. Ethier grounded out to first, J. Kent to third, L. Gonzalez to second
D'oh!

- A. LaRoche intentionally walked
URGH!

- B. Penny walked, J. Kent scored, L. Gonzalez to third, A. LaRoche to second

Woo hoo!

- R. Furcal singled to shortstop, L. Gonzalez scored, A. LaRoche to third, B. Penny to second

OK, that went about 80 feet

- J. Pierre singled to center, B. Penny and A. LaRoche scored, R. Furcal to third

That went about 140 feet

- N. Garciaparra singled to right, R. Furcal scored, J. Pierre to third

A real hit!

- J. Kent struck out looking

D'oh!

2007-05-12 21:17:09
192.   Bluebleeder87
i kind of really like the give away they had today at Dodger Stadium
2007-05-12 21:18:07
193.   old dodger fan
LaRoche may be challenging the record for most IBB to a mid-year call up in his 1st month in the ML's.
2007-05-12 21:18:29
194.   Icaros
You want an extra-base hit?
2007-05-12 21:18:33
195.   Bluebleeder87
is it a blue moon today! Gonzalez hits a triple.
2007-05-12 21:18:39
196.   imperabo
I can't believe he tried for that.
2007-05-12 21:19:26
197.   old dodger fan
There is our XBH
2007-05-12 21:19:49
198.   Indiana Jon
193
Bob, any chance you could track down that record for us?
2007-05-12 21:20:25
199.   Bluebleeder87
184

i think you took a record nap during the 17 inning marathon didn't you Bob? it's like you were there & then you were not.

2007-05-12 21:20:26
200.   Bob Timmermann
That was Luis Gonzalez's 66th career triple, but his first at Dodger Stadium.

Phoenix is a good park for triples.

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2007-05-12 21:21:33
201.   Bob Timmermann
Luis Gonzalez now has as many triples in his career as Rickey Henderson did.
2007-05-12 21:21:56
202.   Icaros
200

Those are some pretty demonic numbers.

2007-05-12 21:22:38
203.   Bob Timmermann
199
I was at work that day and I disappeared to drive home.

I find that reading the internet and driving at the same time are bad ideas.

2007-05-12 21:31:19
204.   Bob Timmermann
The rookie record for IBBs is 16 by Alvin Davis of Seattle in 1984.

Davis didn't play until the seventh game of the year. Ken Phelps was the Opening Day first baseman for the Mariners that year.

2007-05-12 21:33:22
205.   Blaine
I think Alvin Davis went to Riverside North High, which was one of our rivalry schools.
2007-05-12 21:33:45
206.   Sam in SC
I would have thought that Gonzalez hitting a triple would require that at least two outfielders wind up on the DL after the play.
2007-05-12 21:33:57
207.   old dodger fan
204 It took you 12 minutes to find that while making 3 other posts. Did you nap for 5 of them?
2007-05-12 21:35:05
208.   Bob Timmermann
I hadn't read the earlier comment about the IBBs.
2007-05-12 21:36:17
209.   Bob Timmermann
From a NY Times wedding announcement:

Jennifer Marie Nordin was married to Srinivasan Soundararajan yesterday in Minneapolis. The Rev. Daniel C. Nordin, an uncle of the bride and a Lutheran minister, performed the ceremony at Lake of the Isles Lutheran Church.

Ms. Nordin, who is 38 and will keep her name...

I'm sure the groom is a nice guy, but the bride has justification.

2007-05-12 21:37:14
210.   Bluebleeder87
i'm gonna finish watching this game & call it a night, i've got an early game tomorrow.
2007-05-12 21:38:01
211.   Sam in SC
Josh Hamilton played his single A ball here in Charleston, by the way. I saw him play many, many times.

He was a "can't miss" before he went insane.

I am glad to see him back on track, even if that play in center wasn't the most graceful or intelligent thing I have ever seen.

2007-05-12 21:40:12
212.   Bob Timmermann
I believe the Dodgers rookie record for IBBs in a season is 12 by the inimitable Greg Brock in 1983.
2007-05-12 21:40:15
213.   Frip
Blue I thought we could stay up a bit longer together and talk things over.
2007-05-12 21:41:11
214.   Sammy Maudlin
Brazoban just pitched a perfect 8th inning for Las Vegas . He is facing a New Orleans team that features ex Dodgers , Ricky Ledee, Steve Schmoll, Sandy Alomar Jr., and Fernando Tatis.
2007-05-12 21:41:47
215.   Branch Rickey
This is the angriest place one can imagine to be discussing a team that is in the middle of increasing their first place lead with a game they are winning 7-1 in the 8th.
2007-05-12 21:41:47
216.   old dodger fan
Our offense is going to look mighty good in the box score tomorrow.
2007-05-12 21:41:52
217.   Bob Timmermann
Sam,
Are they ever going to finish the game in DC?
2007-05-12 21:43:05
218.   Bob Timmermann
Can the Nationals and Marlins players start using the pink bats since it's after midnight out on the East Coast and it's Mother's Day?
2007-05-12 21:45:26
219.   old dodger fan
215 Tone often gets lost in written communication. I think it is more frustration with how good we could be. We have great pitching and sub par offense (9th or 10 in the NL in runs scored). Lots of folks here think we could be better by playing some different people that are already in our organization and they are frustrated by it.
2007-05-12 21:46:26
220.   Branch Rickey
215. Sorry, didn't refresh. It was angry around the high 140's. Seems to have calmed.
2007-05-12 21:47:04
221.   Greg Brock
215 Who's angry?
2007-05-12 21:47:45
222.   Greg Brock
220 Well, if you're going to answer my question before I ask it, forget it...
2007-05-12 21:49:52
223.   Bob Timmermann
I forget did Vin use his line about "getting eaten to death by moths?"
2007-05-12 21:50:05
224.   Branch Rickey
219. And I agree with that thought. Gonzo and Pierre stand in the way of us being better and that coupled with Nomar and Furcal slumping makes us anemic. But let's not lose sight of the fact that we are in first place and advancing and that while an improved offense is certainly desireable, it may not be necessary to win. And I don't care how it looks when we win as long as we do.
2007-05-12 21:50:09
225.   Sam DC
As Bob is suggesting, they've now gone back to Rain Delay halfway through the ninth with the Nationals down 3-2 and Brian Schneider, Robert Fick, and Ryan Langerhans (Etruscan/Dominican, I think) due up.

It does seem kind of ridiculous to even make those three bat.

Or maybe we'll get Nook Logan to pinch hit.

2007-05-12 21:52:30
226.   imperabo
Nice play Pierre. I just noticed his glove is bigger than he is though.
2007-05-12 21:52:54
227.   DodgerBakers
anyone know why Furcal was replaced for a pinch Runner?
2007-05-12 21:53:02
228.   mikethinksblue
Nice play Juan
2007-05-12 21:53:22
229.   Bob Timmermann
227
Presumably just to give him a rest.
2007-05-12 21:54:12
230.   DodgerBakers
229. Thanks, Bob, but why not a pinch hitter, then?
2007-05-12 21:54:16
231.   Branch Rickey
Now... realistically, Whereas I think most of us agree that Pierre and Gonzo are not going anywhere, and whereas the same is true of every position but maybe third, Therefore I believe there are only two positions that make sense to discuss regarding trades. We have talked about 3rd and it's agreed there's nothing out there. What big bat could we obtain in right field with a package of Ethier plus pitching?
2007-05-12 21:54:17
232.   JoeyP
Penny's thrown 50+ innings this year and has yet to allow a home run.

Does anyone know the record for most consecutive innings pitched without allowing a homer?

2007-05-12 21:55:06
233.   Sam DC
Baseball Tonight has gone with "First Inside the Park Home Run By a National Since 2003."

Controversy abounds.

2007-05-12 21:55:34
234.   old dodger fan
227 The last time he was on 1st the pitcher threw over there 4 times. Maybe Grady just wants to go home.
2007-05-12 21:56:00
235.   Frip
I'm tired, please no sentences longer than 4 lines.
2007-05-12 21:56:01
236.   neuroboy002
So, when Joe Beimel's gameday picture was taken, how many people does it look like he had killed prior?
2007-05-12 21:57:27
237.   old dodger fan
Joe, you have a 6 run lead. Throw strikes.
2007-05-12 21:57:49
238.   Sam in SC
odd.

angel hernandez has been behind the plate all night, and nothing totally insane has happened.

2007-05-12 21:57:50
239.   Bob Timmermann
232
That could be a long stretch depending upon the era.
2007-05-12 21:58:24
240.   Branch Rickey
If Rudy can walk one batter, Saito can get a save.

Just saying.

2007-05-12 21:59:00
241.   Bob Timmermann
Walter Johnson pitched 369 2/3 innings in 1916 and didn't give up a single homer.
2007-05-12 21:59:57
242.   Michael D
240

I really don't want Saito getting in this game. Or Broxton either. Let them rest.

2007-05-12 22:00:18
243.   Gen3Blue
182 Really-that Job was a clever whaler.

184 I want to get into this contest. I'm not great at naps, but I need to be--Itry to nap after dinner and wake up for the D's game on the west coast.

Oh no. Job may be too clever. I thought Biemel could handle it but Grady is going out. I bet he knows the bible. And I hope Rudy does.

2007-05-12 22:00:20
244.   JoeyP
Thats incredible for Walter Johnson.
Maybe Post 1950 record?
2007-05-12 22:02:09
245.   Greg Brock
We win!
2007-05-12 22:02:19
246.   old dodger fan
Beimel's ERA went up like a rocket.
2007-05-12 22:03:15
247.   Branch Rickey
245. And easily for a change. When was the last time that happened? I like it.
2007-05-12 22:04:37
248.   Gen3Blue
I'm tempted to quote from "Pulp Fiction", something about the Lord's terrible vengeance, but I can't remember. At least we won, and I can justify staying up.
2007-05-12 22:05:18
249.   StolenMonkey86
Penny is now averaging a Game Score of 61.25.
2007-05-12 22:07:34
250.   StolenMonkey86
246 - Beimel was getting the eventual giving up of runs out of the way when it didn't matter, because he's clutch.

Or his ERA caught up to his peripherals. Whatever. The bullpen did its job, though.

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2007-05-12 22:08:28
251.   mikethinksblue
Penny our only All Star again this year?
2007-05-12 22:09:55
252.   Bob Timmermann
Retrosheet's stuff goes back to 1957.

The longest streak without giving up a homer since then is 269 innings over 178 games by Greg Minton from 6/1/79 to 5/1/82.

2007-05-12 22:10:10
253.   Gen3Blue
Penny is doing well, but I can't understand his style of pitching at all. I've never been so baffled. Maybe the best thing is to let him throw 130 pitches a game until he is forced to learn a strategy! Maybe he will keep being able to throw 130 pitches at 95 until he retires. Who knows-Who c--I can't say it.
2007-05-12 22:14:23
254.   StolenMonkey86
251 - I would like to think that Martin gets it.
2007-05-12 22:18:23
255.   Bob Timmermann
For starting pitchers, I found a 94 1/3 inning stretch without a homer by Gaylord Perry in 1968.
2007-05-12 22:19:13
256.   JoeyP
This has to be one of the All-Time best starts to a season by a Dodger pitcher.

Penny's ERA is 1.39 after 50ip of work.
The way he's doing it--limited K's but no home runs--is perplexing. Will it continue? Its like he's throwing every game as if its the 2006 All Star Game. Straight hard fastballs that no one can seem to get around on.

Knock on wood--but his arm problems appear behind him. This is a pretty long stretch of sustained high velocity for him. With RJ's career winding down, Penny could be considered the hardest throwing starter in the major leagues.

2007-05-12 22:19:52
257.   Suffering Bruin
Just got back from the game. Thanks again, Bob T. and Toy Cannon!

251 I think Penny, Martin and Saito are going. It was a topic of discussion in the stands.

1) It was beachball night at Dodger Stadium.

2) We scored five runs in an inning and the Cincinnatti outfield didn't have to turn around, not once.

3) I don't mean to harp, but Juan Pierre would swing at his own shadow.

4) I'm sure you all caught Josh Hamilton stepping on his own glove. I've never seen that before.

5) Line of the night by Mrs. SB: "Honey? Wouldn't the team be better off with people who can hit the ball a little farther?"

A fun night. It always is when the Dodgers win.

2007-05-12 22:23:39
258.   Bob Timmermann
I don't think I'm searching the homerless streak correctly because once I set it to "start of season" by a starter, I came up with JR Richard with a 104 1/3 IP stretch without surrendering a dinger in 1980.
2007-05-12 22:25:51
259.   StolenMonkey86
Penny is doing well, but I can't understand his style of pitching at all. I've never been so baffled.

I guess the other teams assume he uses some sort of strategery. I think it's like the idea that to be effective with monetary policy the Fed has to confuse people occasionally so that inflation isn't anticipated.

At the same time, though, it's strange to compare Penny to Ben Bernanke.

2007-05-12 22:26:09
260.   Bob Timmermann
Don Drysdale went 87 1/3 innings to start the 1967 without giving up a homer.

Fernando Valenzuela started the 1981 season with 63 homerless innings.

2007-05-12 22:26:32
261.   berkowit28
223

No.

2007-05-12 22:29:08
262.   Bob Timmermann
Drysdale's streak was ended by Roberto Clemente.

Valenzuela's streak was ended by, who else? Chris Speier!

2007-05-12 22:31:43
263.   Sam in SC
257. -- that was pretty fast. I thought the parking situation at dodger stadium was a disaster, and it took hours to get away from the ballpark . . .
2007-05-12 22:35:24
264.   Bob Timmermann
263
I would imagine that the crowd had thinned out by the end.
2007-05-12 22:47:25
265.   bhsportsguy
263 I went last night, my mistake was leaving my work (near Studio City) at 7:30 for the 7:40 game, so I did not get into the game until the third inning.

I took the Golden State, the 5 for those who use numbers, Stadium exit, which meant a nice bumper to bumper drive and eventually parking in the last row in the lot.

But I was fortunate that there was a fireworks show that I did not stay to watch so I was able to see Sammy strike out Castro and still exit and get home just as the post game show was ending.

2007-05-12 22:52:39
266.   Bob Timmermann
Nats win! Nats win!

Zimmerman hits a walk-off grand slam in the 9th off of Jorge Julio.

The game was 2:59 with 3:38 in delays.

2007-05-12 23:09:00
267.   underdog
Nice win by the Dodgers, bloop hits notwithstanding. I caught part of it at a bar tonight after watching the official debut of the new San Francisco pro soccer team (USL, which is sort of like the AAA is to the MSL's ML), fun but freezing, and that team needs help, but anyway, was good to see a solid win for once.

I saw Gonzo's triple which made me chuckle for some reason, but good to see a solid hit.

Then I just caught this observation from Rotoworld, for what it's worth:
"Luis Gonzalez went 3-for-3 with a triple and three runs scored Saturday versus the Reds.
Gonzalez had been in an 0-for-13 slump. In truth, he hadn't done much of anything since the first couple of weeks of the season, and we're still wondering if the Dodgers would be better off with Matt Kemp or James Loney in left field. May. 13 - 1:21 am et"

2007-05-12 23:15:31
268.   Jon Weisman
New post up top.
2007-05-12 23:17:12
269.   LAT
I really wanted Gonzo to go for the IPHR. He would have been our from me to you but it would have been fun to watch and what the hell the Dodgers were up by 5 at that point.

Nice size crowd tonight. Not too crowded and the in and out was relativily painless.

I even liked the hats--distressed and all. Plus unlike years past, this hat fits my big mellon head.

2007-05-12 23:17:38
270.   LAT
Thats so not funny.
2007-05-12 23:23:25
271.   Greg Brock
270 Poor guy.
2007-05-12 23:29:41
272.   underdog
I was LATed and you were underdogged. I understand we're both to be given lovely parting gifts though.
2007-05-12 23:54:35
273.   trainwreck
269
Me too. I love watching the Dodgers beat a team handedly, while I am at a bar in the Bay Area.
2007-05-13 02:49:39
274.   Andrew Shimmin
235- Terry A. is spits in your general direction.
2007-05-13 14:48:36
275.   Tommy Naccarato
10 I agree. Any Dodger fan that discounts Sandy Koufax, isn't really a Dodger fan.

One of Doggett's quirks--and it was probably because of being a baseball fanatic--was he would be so excited to get the words out so quick that he would erringly say something like, "That ball is out of here....Check that, it's caught in short center field by Davis..." He used, "Check that" a lot!

Still he was a Dodger just as much as the rest of them were. At least to me he was.

In retirement, I'm told he shied away from baseball in public, but never stopped being a fan, more specifically a Dodger fan. He lived about two miles from me in Fairway Village, just above Fullerton Golf Course, and when news came that he had passed-away, it was like losing a friend even though I never had the good opportunity to meet him in person. But when you grow-up listening to these voices on the radio every night, they almost become family. You know, just like Woody Allen in Radio Days.

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