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Home Run Derby
2007-07-21 20:22
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

I'm too tum pluckered to write a proper writeup, but it was a great Dodger Thoughts day at the ballpark, kicked off by a surprise for the 30-plus attendees - a generous 90-minute question-and-answer session with, at different times, Dodger public relations director Josh Rawitch, senior vice president of communications Camille Johnston and owner/chairman Frank McCourt.

The discussion flew by in such a fashion that we were practically racing to get to our seats in time for the first pitch. Almost as quickly, the Dodgers fell behind by four. But what you realize about this Dodger team that has done a 180 this summer is that big deficits just aren't what they used to be. The team isn't really out of it when it's behind, is it? Matt Kemp's three-run home run was the highlight of eight unanswered runs scored by the Dodgers in the middle innings, and Jonathan Broxton got the final five outs to close out an 8-6 win.

So much more to talk about, but I really do want to thank the Dodgers for making this a special day from pregame to post. Rawitch took this initiative completely on his own, and it really means a lot. Sure, it's in his job description to promote relations with the public, but it's clear that he values what this site is trying to do - otherwise we wouldn't be worth this particular effort. And the Dodger players respected us enough to give us a victory to ride home with.

Further thanks to Dodger Thoughts commenter BHSportsguy for handling the tickets to perfection. Ah, sweet shade.

I did my best to make the rounds and try to talk to everyone, but I apologize for not reaching all of you. Next time, right?

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2007-07-21 20:49:04
1.   Marty
I want to give a shout out to Icaros. He may have traveled the longest to attend. Good to see you again buddy.
2007-07-21 20:49:31
2.   Bluebleeder87
i was pretty surprised that Broxton got a 5 out save, i'm hoping Sammy Saito is ready to go tomorrow.
2007-07-21 20:51:19
3.   Bluebleeder87
1

Nice to see you at the get together Marty i finally have a visual of you. Eric Enders drove all the way from San Diego i can't imagine how far Icaros was coming from.

2007-07-21 20:52:55
4.   Marty
Eric was there and I didn't meet him? Wow. Icaros came from Frisco.
2007-07-21 20:53:13
5.   Marty
3 Good to finally meet you to Blue.
2007-07-21 20:54:31
6.   Suffering Bruin
Icaros and Eric both belong in the Dodger Thoughts Hall of Fame. Great guys, great posts... some folks have it all.

My wife asked how the day I was. A moment later, she said, "You must've had fun because you can't stop smiling." She's right most of the time and this was one of those times.

2007-07-21 20:58:17
7.   dzzrtRatt
I got LAT'd on the last thread. This goes on a little long, but compared to Harry Potter, it's a semicolon. Jon, it was great talking to you. Thanks for being such a great host.

277. dzzrtRatt
Many, many thanks Jon, bhsportsguy and everyone who was there. I had so much fun. Great talking to everyone I managed to talk to, and hoping I get to talk to all the rest at a future event. Not only my first DT game, but my first internet-sponsored meet-up of any kind. That, plus seeing Kemp, Loney, Martin and Broxton literally taking over the Dodgers emphasizes that we're indeed in a new century.

The 8 slot is the new cleanup. When you include Penny's double, the Dodgers put an AL-style lineup out there today.

McCourt is obviously a whole different person when things are working out. The defensiveness is gone, and while I wouldn't call him relaxed, he seemed happy. Right now, life is good at Casa McCourt. Josh and Camille were a study in PR contrasts. Josh is selling what he loves. He obviously wouldn't have minded bs-ing with us for the rest of the day.

Camille has an extremely loud cell phone and scurries off like an ER nurse when it rings. She's got the talking points down -- she's very good at what she does. But you can tell it stresses her out. It probably cost her more mental anguish to share so much of McCourt's time with us than it did McCourt himself. If you have her job, you always want to get your guy off the stage after he's said what he came to say.

She also led an interesting discussion of whether a fan should be thrown out of the Stadium for yelling the word "sucks." Is that still a curse word?, she wondered. I think the consensus was "yes."

Two important concession-related facts came out today:

- The lower level concession stands are built "against the mountain." There is no space behind what you see.

- Without any room for storage, the crew in those stands must ride up the elevator to restock. The same elevator fans take. It's slow. No wonder they run out.

McCourt says he is fixing this.

The only thing McCourt said that disturbed me was his idea for a statue in front of Dodger Stadium. Someone in the DT group talked about the monuments outside ATT Park and Yankee Stadium, and wondered if we could have a statue of Koufax, say.

McCourt has a different idea. He wants a statue of the fans. It's his way of saying that the fans are what's important.

I'm glad he likes the fans and keeps us uppermost in his mind. But the fans don't go to Dodger Stadium to see other fans. McCourt can have a statue of the fans in his office. The fans want to see heroes. Yes, we're Dodger fans, and the name on the front of the uniform is more important than the name on the back. Except sometimes that's not true!

Other than that, I'd have to say this experience made me extremely hopeful about the Dodgers over the next decade. Thank you all again!

2007-07-21 20:59:44
8.   Eric Enders
I was there in spirit only... watched the whole thing from my couch. (And didn't spot you guys, by the way.) I did give serious thought to driving 1,000 miles so I could be there, but... maybe next year. Maybe you meant Eric Stephen.

Tomorrow actually marks the 20th anniversary of the last game I attended at Dodger Stadium. I will be in Houston for all three games next week, though.

2007-07-21 21:00:58
9.   Jon Weisman
It was Eric Stephen at the game, not Eric Enders.
2007-07-21 21:02:39
10.   Bob Timmermann
Next year ... in Jerusalem!
2007-07-21 21:07:43
11.   Eric Enders
So although it's kind of depressing that I haven't been to Dodger Stadium in 20 years, during that period I have been to Dodger road games in Oakland, San Francisco, New York, Atlanta, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Montreal, Chicago, St. Louis, Houston, Cincinnati, Phoenix, and Denver.
2007-07-21 21:12:33
12.   Sam DC
Well, you guys are all coming to my place next year, right?

A lot of you will have a new stadium to get scratched off your lists after all.

2007-07-21 21:18:13
13.   Bob Timmermann
I have only seen the Dodgers on the road in St. Louis and Colorado.

I'm not heading to Dodger Stadium again until August 13.

The way this year is going expect a loss. A very big loss. Lance Berkman will go 4 for 5 with 2 HRs.

2007-07-21 21:20:06
14.   Marty
Ack! Which one was Eric Stephens? I was hoping to meet him.
2007-07-21 21:23:31
15.   Bob Timmermann
Stephen!
Eric Stephen!

He's in the white pages!

2007-07-21 21:23:45
16.   fanerman
Glad to see that a splendid time was had by all. Glad to see the Dodgers got a win, too.

Matt Kemp, Bison Strength. I love that guy.

2007-07-21 21:24:33
17.   das411
Just your typical 1-6-4-3 double play in San Diego, move along, nothing to see here...

12 - Sam! Will that be a new new stadium or an old new stadium? Will you be missing RFK more than you ever thought you would, by then?

2007-07-21 21:26:52
18.   overkill94
15 That jingle's got nothing on this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ3oHpup-pk

2007-07-21 21:26:57
19.   Eric Enders
15 You sure it's not Eric Stefanski? Eric Stefanovich?
2007-07-21 21:28:20
20.   Bluebleeder87
McCourt has a different idea. He wants a statue of the fans. It's his way of saying that the fans are what's important.

i did a double take when i read that, aside from that Greg Brock was telling me that Frank McCourt comes off very well on one on one situations. I got there late so i was asking around how everything went with the Q&A.

2007-07-21 21:29:36
21.   das411
Yellow (?) alert for Old Friend Milton Bradley!!
2007-07-21 21:30:13
22.   Bob Timmermann
Orange alert for Milton Bradley
2007-07-21 21:30:13
23.   Eric Enders
Let me go on the record right now as saying the idea of a statue of the fans is incredibly lame.
2007-07-21 21:31:03
24.   Eric Stephen
Marty, I was sitting next to you for most of the game.

I had a great time meeting everyone and of course it was great that the Dodgers won.

It was also great meeting the Belle of the Ball, Greg Brock, in person.

2007-07-21 21:33:52
25.   Bob Timmermann
People said they would come say hi to me at the library before the game.

But they didn't.

They lied.

It made me cry.

It made my cat cry.

And my cat wasn't there, but he's very sensitive to my emotions.

2007-07-21 21:34:28
26.   dzzrtRatt
I regret all the people I didn't get to meet, but especially Greg Brock. He was so popular, I couldn't get anywhere close to him.
2007-07-21 21:34:52
27.   Sam DC
I can't believe I'm too late to even be the third person making that joke.

17 They couldn't be more emphatic that the new stadium will be ready for Opening Day 2008.

17 I will actually be one of the two or three people in Washington DC who will miss RFK. It has everything I need in a ballpark and even a bit of charm. Mostly, it has big seats, lots of leg room, and the upper deck is pulled forward and steep so you can really see well from upstairs.

But it won't be anyone else but me and Red and Crazy Joe crying in our beer when they implode the place.

2007-07-21 21:34:57
28.   Bluebleeder87
18

I was doing the Robot & the worm while listing to that jingle.

2007-07-21 21:35:46
29.   Eric Stephen
I also need to say it's an honor to me and not an honor to Enders to be mistaken for Eric Enders.

Oh yeah, Suffering Bruin has a booming voice. Props to him for predicting the 6-run inning and props to Brock for calling Penny's double.

2007-07-21 21:37:20
30.   Sam DC
Marty, I was sitting next to you for most of the game.

That's hysterical.

On the statue, Ratt said it so well: "McCourt can have a statue of the fans in his office. The fans want to see heroes."

2007-07-21 21:37:54
31.   Bob Timmermann
But there wasn't a six-run inning.

Suffering Bruin is a False Cassandra!

2007-07-21 21:40:20
32.   Eric Stephen
I meant 5-run inning. SB said he predicted "big things" that inning.
2007-07-21 21:42:30
33.   Sam DC
Did Ozzie's bullpen just walk in three runs in one inning?

And I have to go to work tomorrow morning and meet for four hours with a die hard White Sox fan. He has a bat signed by the WS team up above his desk.

I look at it when I've screwed something up.

And I just can't help briefly thinking of the Untouchables.

2007-07-21 21:45:59
34.   Bob Timmermann
32
Suffering Bruin should get a job as a TV psychic with predictions like that.
2007-07-21 21:47:58
35.   Marty
That was you? I'm so embarrassed. {slinking away to never surface again}
2007-07-21 21:48:21
36.   Bob Timmermann
I am amazed at how many really cheap-looking commercials the Padres have on their broadcasts. Just about everything is a local product. Car dealerships, a local casino, a contractor, etc.

Occasionally there is a national ad.

Contrast that with a Dodgers or Angels broadcast which usually has very few commercials for anything smalltime except for Phil's Big Screen TVs.

Ahh, the power of TV markets.

2007-07-21 21:50:42
37.   Sam DC
33 I knew I should have checked -- that was a very misleading email I just got what with the run-walking-in having occurred hours ago and in what was already a blowout.

Knew I should've checked.

2007-07-21 21:58:08
38.   Xeifrank
That's great you guys got to have a Q&A with McCourt and the PR guy (Josh). Besides the statue what else was said of interest. What kind of questions did you guys ask? Anything about Nomar and Pierre? Why is Kemp hitting 8th, anything juicy like that? I love the idea of the statue of the fans, I love it so much why not just designate one whole section of the stadium with statues of fans sitting in seats. Kind of like the terra cotta warriors. They could have a statue beach ball and could be eating statue dodger dogs. vr, Xei
2007-07-21 21:59:59
39.   das411
HAHAHA I definitely just heard an "E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!" coming from Petco Park...

Offense 10, Pitching 4, 9th inning.

2007-07-21 22:00:40
40.   Eric Stephen
34 I think I accused him of making a John Edward like preiction.
2007-07-21 22:01:00
41.   Bob Timmermann
Remember when Cla Meredith was unhittable?
2007-07-21 22:04:21
42.   Vishal
man, i really wish i could have gone. it sounds like it was a blast! and what a great game. i'm happy for everyone who went though. i'll try to be there again next year.

i'd be curious to hear more details about the Q&A session. anyone ask about signing a-rod? :)

2007-07-21 22:07:29
43.   Benaiah
Sounds like everyone had a great time. One of these years I will be in L.A. for things like this, for now I will just have to pretend.
2007-07-21 22:08:06
44.   Daniel Zappala
12 I, for one, am planning a DC trip next year, and expect you to host a trip to the Nationals' stadium. :-) Our trip for this summer got canceled, but we're shooting for next June.
2007-07-21 22:08:16
45.   Bob Timmermann
Cycle alert canceled.

Stand down.

2007-07-21 22:15:13
46.   Terry A
43 - I think we should have satellite DT Days for those of us who can't get to LA for the real mccoy.

The Dodgers, for instance, will be in St. Louis on Aug. 10-12. I can't make that weekend, however, so I propose we have a Makeup Satellite DT Day on Wednesday, September 5, at the Cardinals/Pirates game.

In the event of rain or other postponement of the Makeup Satellite DT Day, we'll just try to track down Eric Enders' spelling bee highlight reel on YouTube.

2007-07-21 22:16:18
47.   dzzrtRatt
Re: the Q and A. Frank mostly talked about having everyone on the same page, and the various things he was doing to reach his three goals: Better team, better fan experience, more profits. About all he said about baseball was he did a great thing hiring Ned.

We got into baseball talk mostly with Josh. I found his explanation of Logan White's role rather interesting. White is focused on amateur players and international players. Kim Ng is in charge of player development, with all the minor league managers and coaches reporting to her. I forget which one of them is responsible for scouting the major league teams. So, while Logan White might weigh in on a trade of a prospect, it's really Kim Ng's recommendations that are relevant.

Josh also talked a lot about Juan Pierre, as someone else reported on the last thread. Apparently Juan's influence on other Dodger players is vast. So even when he fails, others succeed because of him.

It was this kind of day: DT favorite Matt Kemp and DT scourge (but the guy Josh likes) Juan Pierre both got to be heroes.

Maybe they'll be inducted into the HOF on the same day.

2007-07-21 22:28:57
48.   Benaiah
On Cinco de Mayo this year, a (relatively) young man walked up to the plate in capital of both the new and dirty South. The young man had recently been demoted to a pinch hitter's role after starting the season with zero home runs in 56 at bats, and only 7 hits of any sort (2 doubles and 14 BB made for the bizarre and pathetic line of .140/.307/.228).

Incredibly, young Wilson went long. Like Bruce Banner when you get personal, Betemit got angry* and pitchers everywhere haven't liked him when he's angry. In 93 at bats since that awakening (Sample size? Who cares? This is the stuff of legends, not stats class nerds.) Wilson is sporting the Ruthian- nay the Andersonian- line of .315/.400/.800. Our hero has arisen, all hail Betemit, king of the pine.

* Any representations about anger are creative license- unless they are in regards to Milton Bradley, who I think we can all agree has issues.

2007-07-21 22:33:14
49.   Bob Timmermann
Alan Webb broke the American record for the mile today.

Remember when that would have been a huge sports story?

Webb ran 3:46.91 breaking a 25-year old record by Steve Scott.

2007-07-21 22:36:12
50.   Greg Brock
You guys are too funny. I'm a dork who was terrified to meet all of you. Thanks for being nice!

Seriously, it was such a fun experience. Everybody is so friendly, knowledgable, and smart, it was a great treat. It exceeded my expectations times a million.

Oh, and SB has a man's voice. No joke.

Back to reading.

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2007-07-21 22:37:51
51.   Sam DC
I was just reading that. I used to go to the Pepsi Meet at UCLA every year. Steve Scott used to run in that. Sebastian Coe would come. Renaldo Nehamiah. Ed Moses. Greg Foster. Saw Carl Lewis run there. Jackie Joyner-Kersee. Sergei Bubka was there once or twice I think.

Now, who sees track and field ever? I wouldn't even know how to start.

2007-07-21 22:39:12
52.   Daniel Zappala
I knew I had heard the name Alan Webb before, and I was right: he ran in the Prefontaine Classic in 2001, breaking a 36=year-old national high school record. 6- years later and I guess he's still running.
2007-07-21 22:39:43
53.   Daniel Zappala
Track and field is huge in Eugene, still, Bob ... another reason to visit.
2007-07-21 22:52:28
54.   Who Is Karim Garcia
a big thank you to everyone who was out tonight!

Overkill: thanks for the ride, man!

It was great hanging with all you crazy dodger fans. It was great watching people throw their hands up in laughter when I confessed to being Who Is Karim Garcia.

Well done boys. How about we do this... maybe at a bar so we can all get to know one another?

2007-07-21 22:59:09
55.   dzzrtRatt
By the way, it should be noted there were at least three women in the group. It's not just brandy & cigars in DT-land.
2007-07-21 23:02:25
56.   Some Guy in San Diego
Ugh.

My logon, at this point, is geographically incorrect. It's more a state of mind.

That being said...

I will make every effort possible to make it to next season's "Dodger Thoughts" game.

I live in the Midwest now, and proudly wear a "Dodger Thoughts" t-shirt.

I have a weird tradition, I will only wear a Dodger cap if it was actually purchased from Dodger Stadium. I haven't been in 4+ years, so my last one is pretty gnarly... I don't really wear it much.

Any-who... I'm breaking one of the posting rules right now, please forgive. This site allows me to enjoy so-cal nostalgia in a very present way.

From the strings about Oingo-Boingo, to discussions about parking at Dodger Stadium.. It all works for me.

Since this post is "all about me" at this point...
a few thoughts..

1) Jon has created a truly unique community that encompasses the best of what Dodger fans have to offer.

2)Bob Timmerman's brain is truly intimidating.

3) The best Dodger moment I've witnessed in person was Orel's game 2 performance in '88.

4) Mike Piazza has to be on any Dodger Stadium statue.

5) So does Orel and Fernando.

Jon, and everyone else; Being far, far away from Dodger Stadium.. this website makes me feel like I'm eating a Dodger Dog and a Cool-a-Coo.

2007-07-21 23:04:11
57.   Jon Weisman
55 - Or beer and skittles, either.

I think there were five female attendees.

2007-07-21 23:04:39
58.   Some Guy in San Diego
Darn,
I would be totally out of line not to say Greg Brock is totally out of his mind!!!
In a good way!
2007-07-21 23:07:07
59.   mintxcore
I had a great time today with all y'all! Thanks a million to overkill for the ride (and thank goodness, as I would have had to revert to the bus - and McCourt might have heard an earful from me about it ;D).

Had a great time meeting everyone, next time it would be great to meet up beforehand somewhere a little more conducive to getting to know everyone (halfway thru the game I realized I had no idea who Greg Brock was and was sitting behind Rob the entire time not even realizing who he was.)

Anyways, a great day from top to bottom and big thanks to Craig for setting everything up and thanks to Josh for treating us like special guests. And Jon, obviously, for putting so much work and effort into the site and sharing it with everyone.

Can't wait to do it again!

2007-07-21 23:11:18
60.   dzzrtRatt
I almost forgot the best part. Whoever led the "hip-hip-hooray" shout is a genius. I felt like a charter member of the Matt Kemp Marching and Chowder Society.
2007-07-21 23:20:30
61.   Eric Stephen
It was "hip hip Jorge" for Mets pitcher Jorge Sosa, who give up the bulk up the runs.
2007-07-21 23:22:23
62.   Sammy Maudlin
The popularity of track and field has diminished. I am amazed though at how popular running events (5ks, 10ks, half/full marathons)have become. The crowds seem to get bigger each year . I try to run at 10 events a year.
2007-07-21 23:30:38
63.   Bob Timmermann
My brain is so intimidating that it intimidates people who are not even in my presence.

It must be my aura.

2007-07-21 23:32:22
64.   Some Guy in San Diego
Not so much aura.

More the posts.

2007-07-22 00:15:48
65.   xaphor
8. That explains the ghostly wail I heard when the fans chose Van Halen's Jump over Glory Days.
2007-07-22 00:18:31
66.   bhsportsguy
My favorite moment was after Kemp hit his homer, Suffering Bruin high fived everyone in the group.

Very nice of the Dodgers to set aside some face time with Frank, Camille and Josh.

But above all, just real impressed with the passion everyone has for the team and the great conversations that we can actually have face to face, what a concept.

Now back for our more comfortable places behind the blog wall.

And Eric Stephen's comment to Marty was priceless.

2007-07-22 00:48:51
67.   bryanf
Really a great time guys...it was great to put faces to names and to finally be at a game where I could talk intelligently about it and have someone understand. Jon did a great job trying to get around to everyone, but wow, there were a lot of us there - what a turnout! I don't think it could have gone any better...except maybe if there had been catcher's interference during the game.
2007-07-22 00:49:28
68.   LAT
Toy Cannons ability to see the future should not be over looked.

When Ethier came up I said to him, "so is this where we tie the game."

He said "no." Ethier got a base hit and when Kemp came up Toy Cannon said to me "Now this is where we go ahead."

The next pitch left the yard. I asked him who was going to win the 5th at Del Mar or what the stock market was going to do on Monday but he said he could oly use his powers for good. Ok, made that last part up.

2007-07-22 02:28:31
69.   Dodgers49
51s-Rainiers opener suspended

The first game of Saturday night's Pacific Coast League doubleheader between the Las Vegas 51s and Tacoma Rainiers was suspended due to rain.
It will be resumed on Sunday at 4:35 p.m. ET before the regularly scheduled game.

The game was tied, 3-3, in the eighth inning when play was halted.

2007-07-22 05:10:19
70.   D4P
Next year ... in Jerusalem!

Year after that ... in Eugene!

2007-07-22 07:25:26
71.   Disabled List
The last thing Dodger Stadium needs is a statue. Statues are great for large, centralized, public gathering places. The street-facing plaza in front of Phone Company Park? Sure. But Dodger Stadium doesn't have anything like that. Where would it go, in the parking lot behind the pavilions? At the top of the park? The Dodgers don't really have an iconic legend to immortalize in bronze or marble except for Sandy Koufax, who I sense wouldn't even want something as presumptuous as a statue anyway.

A much better idea would be to get all the memorabilia that the O'Malley family has stashed away in that warehouse and open up a Dodgers Museum/Hall of Fame. I'd happily pay a separate admission for that.

2007-07-22 07:59:15
72.   rockmrete
71
Interesting you should mention a museum. Frank McCourt said it was in the plans, or at least it was something they were thinking about.
2007-07-22 08:18:24
73.   Bluebleeder87
72,72

that's definitely a good idea, i heard whispers about it last year also. You know it's nice waking up in the morning & seeing our Dodgers back in 1st place.

2007-07-22 08:32:07
74.   screwballin
44 Apparently Juan's influence on other Dodger players is vast. So even when he fails, others succeed because of him.

Did he mean influence in a "sees more fastballs with him on base" way, or a clubhouse leader kind of way?

2007-07-22 08:33:44
75.   Lexinthedena
71- Jackie Robinson?
2007-07-22 08:35:19
76.   screwballin
71 The Dodgers don't really have an iconic legend to immortalize

I would argue that they have THE iconic legend to immortalize in Jackie Robinson. A statue of him would be entirely appropriate, I think. Not even Babe Ruth could say his influence went beyond baseball like Jackie could.

2007-07-22 08:36:52
77.   bryanf
76 My suggestion was Vin Scully. This pretty much had agreement from everyone in the room.
2007-07-22 08:38:54
78.   screwballin
Know what would be cool? A group statue of, say, Jackie, Sandy and Fernando. Kind of like a Dodger Mt. Rushmore.
2007-07-22 08:55:35
79.   Bluebleeder87
{57}

i was sitting next to 2 lovely women Kadycee & her friend i didn't catch her name cause of the crowd noise but both were very pleasant

2007-07-22 08:55:43
80.   ToyCannon
Pictures-If you see yourself, please put your handle in the comments. My apologies beforehand if I put the wrong handle to the picture, feel free to correct.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/91066300@N00/sets/72157600947040609/
2007-07-22 08:56:57
81.   ToyCannon
Bluebleeder, sorry your not in the pictures but I took them before you arrived. Rob should have nabbed you in the group shoot.
2007-07-22 09:03:06
82.   bryanf
80 Great pictures! Thanks for the link.
2007-07-22 09:05:08
83.   Bob Timmermann
Vin Scully wouldn't allow a statue of himself to go up while he's alive I think.

Koufax would be the logical statue. As much as Jackie Robinson did for baseball, he didn't do it in L.A.

And there are Jackie Robinson statues in Southern California already, so it's not like he's ignored.

2007-07-22 09:13:27
84.   bryanf
83 Koufax was the initial suggestion, until McCourt countered with his idea about a statue of fans (I'm all for the front office being all about the fans, but this was a bit far I think), at which point I countered with Scully. It was like a big negotiation. You are right, though, that Vin would probably not allow it to happen while he's alive.
2007-07-22 09:14:21
85.   Bob Timmermann
Actually, statues of Koufax and Fernando would be appropriate.
2007-07-22 09:19:57
86.   Bluebleeder87
83

statues in order of time line would also be sweet, why not we have a rich history here.

2007-07-22 09:22:28
87.   Bluebleeder87
the pics will work better once names are attached to them. The Group photo taken by Rob looked good i'm wondering if it came out as good as it looked.
2007-07-22 09:23:30
88.   screwballin
83 And there are Jackie Robinson statues in Southern California already, so it's not like he's ignored.

I feel a little stupid that I didn't know this. See what living in OC does to you?

I agree on Koufax and Fernando. And Vin. Staples has two, after all, so DS needs at least three.

2007-07-22 09:25:09
89.   screwballin
86 Really. Why not have a wall of heroes that stretches back to Brooklyn days?
2007-07-22 09:30:07
90.   Bob Timmermann
Here are some recently erected statues:

Cincinnati:
http://tinyurl.com/yok7zk (Robinson, Lombardi, and Kluszewski)
Pittsburgh:
http://tinyurl.com/2ccu7r (Honus Wagner),
http://tinyurl.com/2fyesu (Roberto Clemente)

2007-07-22 09:35:12
91.   D4P
Looks like the Claret Jug will go to either Padraig Harrington or Sergio Garcia.
2007-07-22 09:36:18
92.   Bob Timmermann
There are large busts of Jackie and Mack Robinson near Pasadena's City Hall.

http://tinyurl.com/yt2v4n

2007-07-22 09:45:09
93.   Bumsrap
Vin Scully best represents the fans and whether he likes the idea of a statue for himself or not, he has been the fan's connection with the Dodgers for 57 years. Maybe the statue should be a hologram.
2007-07-22 09:48:45
94.   D4P
From ItD:

It was great to meet many of the Dodger Thoughts people out here yesterday and our thanks go out to Jon Weisman for the kind words on his site. However, I cannot personally take all the credit. As with everything we do, it was a team effort and Camille Johnston was the one who had the idea of inviting Frank McCourt. I think he genuinely enjoyed chatting with those who were here, as did Camille and I.

And the lineup:

Furcal, SS
Pierre, CF
Martin, C
Kent, 2B
Gonzo, LF
Nomar, 3B
Loney, 1B
Ethier, RF
Stults, P

So, we're facing a RH who's brutal on RH hitters. Surely, Betemit would play over Nomar, right? But wait! There's Nomar in the #6 hole!

2007-07-22 09:50:21
95.   Gen3Blue
Because of local broadcast arrangement at both cities, I fear us DTV guys may be blanked out today.
Bob T.--Its not so bad because Fox gave me the game yesterday and of course it was a gem. I sometimes have access to local cable but I'm pretty sure it doesn't have NY 11 that I would need. But I discovered the TV Guide channel is so annoying I had to turn it off or I couldn't think to write. This is rare for me. Also the space and time they devote to the schedule is so small as to be absolutely worthless.
2007-07-22 09:53:04
96.   D4P
94cont
Did I mention that Betemit trails only Kemp and Loney in OPS?
2007-07-22 10:05:11
97.   Terry A
Thanks for the pix, ToyCannon.

Jon, that's a sweet Mondesi shirt you're sporting there.

2007-07-22 10:10:25
98.   Gen3Blue
80 Thank you. Great shots! And wonderful to put faces to people i've "known" so long.
Keep working on the captions folks, they mean a lot.
2007-07-22 10:19:07
99.   Bluebleeder87
97,98

there's more pics to come if i remember correctly Rob (scareduck) took many a pics as well including the group pictures.

2007-07-22 10:21:46
100.   Lexinthedena
This Nomar Biz is starting to get insulting....
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2007-07-22 10:30:50
101.   D4P
Sergio missed a 10ish-footer for par to win. 4-hole playoff coming up with Harrington.
2007-07-22 10:40:13
102.   Bluebleeder87
Stults had some success against the Mets last time he faced them hopefully he has the same results in this start.
2007-07-22 10:43:12
103.   Lexinthedena
If he duplicates last year's start, I will be very suprised....I'm lookin at at least two innings needed from Hendrickson today....
2007-07-22 10:44:53
104.   Bob Timmermann
I thought Hendrickson was starting tomorrrow in Colorado?
2007-07-22 10:49:12
105.   imperabo
Sounds like you guys had an a amazing experiece all around. I'm shocked that a team owner would meet a group of posters from an internet blog. I give a lot of credit to Jon for carving out a bastion of civility in the barbarian wastelands of the internet. I can't imagine any PR man exposing his owner to the marauding horde you mostly find in internet chats.
2007-07-22 10:49:14
106.   bhsportsguy
101 Not that past Nomar has mattered a lot recently but he does have the most plate appearances against El Duque with 29, Nomar bats .333 (9/27) with a .935 OPS.

James Loney is batting.600 (3/5) with a 1.600 OPS against Orlando.

2007-07-22 10:49:42
107.   Bob Timmermann
The Michelob commercial where a woman says to Sergio Garcia, in the least subtle double entendre ever, "There's nothing like a good up and down," is pretty funny now. Or is it ironic?
2007-07-22 10:50:33
108.   D4P
Nomar has mattered a lot recently but he does have the most plate appearances against El Duque with 29, Nomar bats .333 (9/27) with a .935 OPS

I noticed that, but none of those plate appearances were have been in 2007.

2007-07-22 10:51:06
109.   Bob Timmermann
105
Impressive in light of the fact that the Dodgers have never given the local SABR chapter any meeting space or sent a speaker to a meeting.

We almost got a meeting hosted by Dan Evans.

Then McCourt hired DePodesta.

2007-07-22 10:55:55
110.   D4P
107
When it's that unsubtle, it's essentially a single entendre.
2007-07-22 10:56:16
111.   D4P
Two-stroke swing on the first playoff hole.
2007-07-22 10:58:57
112.   Bluebleeder87
i'm thinking the best Stults can do is keep them off balance & spot his pitches well or else it will be a short outing for him witch in result can cost him his gig.
2007-07-22 11:00:38
113.   D4P
i'm thinking the best Stults can do is keep them off balance

Best way to do that is to throw at their feet.

2007-07-22 11:00:54
114.   Marty
I'm rooting for Harrington.
2007-07-22 11:02:12
115.   Terry A
114 - Me, too, but it's only because his son ran out to hug him as he came off 18 earlier.

And, yeah, because of how annoying Sergio is in that commercial Bob mentioned.

2007-07-22 11:04:41
116.   D4P
115
To be fair, Sergio doesn't have a son. Or a daughter. At least, not legitimate ones.
2007-07-22 11:08:18
117.   Benaiah
I don't like Sergio at all and I don't know why. Watching him melt down (bogey and then shorting a birdie putt on the second hole) pleases me, but makes me feel like a misanthrope.
2007-07-22 11:10:22
118.   D4P
I've never been a big Sergio fan. I try to like him sometimes, but he always ruins it by saying something stupid. For some reason, though, I've been rooting for him today. It's not looking good right now.
2007-07-22 11:13:27
119.   D4P
Sergio's only chance is another 18th collapse from Harrington.
2007-07-22 11:17:38
120.   Bumsrap
116
At least, not "legitimate ones"
Is that a 1950's term?
2007-07-22 11:23:59
121.   Dodgers49
51s, Rainiers tied when rain forces suspension

>>> The 51s (47-51), who have won nine straight, scored all of their runs Saturday on Andy LaRoche's 11th home run of the season, a three-run shot in the third inning. The hit followed a single by Chin-Lung Hu and a walk to John Lindsey. <<<

http://www.lvrj.com/sports/8648736.html

2007-07-22 11:24:03
122.   Bob Timmermann
3 of the first 4 batters for the Brewers have hit extra base hits against Barry Zito.
2007-07-22 11:26:17
123.   Benaiah
Sergio has taken Lefty's "choker" label for life- or at least until he wins something. I think it is over, either way.
2007-07-22 11:29:59
124.   Bob Timmermann
The Brewers went 2B, out, HR, 2B, out, HR, out against Zito.

Bonds has the day off.

2007-07-22 11:30:12
125.   D4P
122
It's nice that the Zito contract wasn't held against Sabean. I mean, it wasn't really his fault.
2007-07-22 11:31:51
126.   Bob Timmermann
125
You could hire Mark Hendrickson to have a first inning like that at a fraction of the cost.
2007-07-22 11:33:15
127.   D4P
126
Or you could throw $100 million down the drain and get a contract extension.
2007-07-22 11:35:08
128.   Bob Timmermann
Cesar Izturis gets his first as a Pirate! I hope he asked for the ball.
2007-07-22 11:37:04
129.   Dodgers49
Angels trade Molina to Yankees

http://tinyurl.com/2ot5m8

2007-07-22 11:38:33
130.   Bluebleeder87
well i'm getting ready for my sunday league game so i'll chat with you all at a later time, I really hope Stults locates & keeps them off balance.
2007-07-22 11:42:58
131.   Bob Timmermann
Houston vs. Pittsburgh is available in HD! Too bad I have to leave for work soon.
2007-07-22 11:43:56
132.   overkill94
129 Bob's gonna be piiiiiiiissed
2007-07-22 11:45:55
133.   Bob Timmermann
132
I've just given up.

One day I'll post a link to something that gives the first person to click on it a million dollars and they'll skip it.

2007-07-22 11:46:39
134.   Dodgers49
Dodgers notebook: Stults gets the nod for start in rotation

>>> Now, Hendrickson will follow Chad Billingsley in the rotation against Houston. Derek Lowe, who will avoid starting in Colorado later next week, is scheduled to finish the Astros series on Wednesday. <<<

http://www.dailybreeze.com/sports/articles/8647281.html

2007-07-22 11:49:31
135.   Bob Timmermann
The million dollar ink is under a big W.
2007-07-22 11:50:09
136.   Bob Timmermann
That should be "link" instead of "ink."
2007-07-22 11:51:57
137.   Dodgers49
133. Sorry Bob. :-) I only check Dodger Thoughts posts. I'll check the sidebar going forward.
2007-07-22 11:52:46
138.   Bob Timmermann
137
Look for the big W.
2007-07-22 11:53:14
139.   Vishal
argh, anyone know what happened to hunter pence?
2007-07-22 12:04:18
140.   overkill94
139 Hurt his wrist somehow, seems to be not that serious
2007-07-22 12:06:19
141.   Dodgers49
For those who haven't read the LA Times yet:

Dodgers need help, but not by mortgaging future.

>>> One glance at the combined contributions of James Loney, Andre Ethier and Matt Kemp in the Dodgers' 8-6 victory over the New York Mets on Saturday — four for 12, four runs scored, one home run, four runs batted in — explains why General Manager Ned Colletti is hesitant to trade any of those promising youngsters for short-term help. <<<

http://tinyurl.com/yshcyv

2007-07-22 12:08:48
142.   Sammy Maudlin
139The Houston site says right wrist sprain, x-rays were negative.
2007-07-22 12:11:48
143.   Jon Weisman
Game thread is opening...
2007-07-22 12:13:02
144.   LA Native
141

That points out it is not really the future they would be mortgaging but the present. Ethier, Loney, Kemp and Billingsley are a big part of why we are in first now, so sending them away would hurt on some level in the present.

LaRoche is crushing the ball lately in Vegas (still think he has a good shot at being the regular 3rd baseman next year) and Hu, whose offense may be the biggest surprise in the Dodger's minor league system has an OPS of over 1450 in limited time at Vegas.

The next week until the trade deadline will be interesting. It seems we have gotten rid of all the moderately attractive prospects who we didn't really want (Navarro, Jackson, Tiffany, etc...). I don't see Ned sitting on his duff for better or probably worse.

2007-07-22 12:21:55
145.   Vishal
[140] okay, thanks. i have him on a fantasy team :)
2007-07-22 12:53:36
146.   nofatmike
About Steve Scott, I ran Cross Country in high school, and one time, in the summer of 2001, a couple of us went to this Cross Country camp that Steve Scott was at. I must say, it was quite a treat when the camp members got to play tag with him. Watching him run across a large field was akin to watching cheetah do the same thing. I now know what a caribou must feel like.

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