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Retro Cycle Alert

2007-07-24 16:40

by Jon Weisman

You know how we keep waiting for the first Dodger to hit for the cycle since Wes Parker in 1970? This wouldn't be happening if Babe Herman were around. On this date in 1931, Herman hit for the cycle for the second time that season for Brooklyn.

Two years later, Herman did it again for the Cubs.

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Retro Gameday

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2007-07-24 16:48:08

1. Marty

Herman also engineered the famous three men on third fiasco. That's better than having two thrown out at the plate.

2007-07-24 16:54:08

2. JimBilly4

Why aren't there more men named Babe any more? Or Pee Wee, for that matter. I would think in our post-modern, self-criticizing culture we would be all over such ironic labeling.

Or are they just too old timey? For goodness sakes people. We live in the Oughts (Ought-7 to be precise), lets bring back Babe!

2007-07-24 16:54:37

3. Jacob L

Can somebody clarify for me, picking up on some earlier discussion threads - is Russell Martin really dating Alyssa Milano, or does she merely have the hots for him? I hope this doesn't have anything to do with his recent slumping, and wish that she'd develop an interest in the aging backup catcher instead.

2007-07-24 16:55:34

4. silverwidow

Please, no Roberto appearances tonight. Please.

2007-07-24 16:57:43

5. Jacob L

4 You don't think Hendu's going the route, do you?

2007-07-24 16:57:47

6. Daniel Zappala

LATed .. err ... Zapped again. See end of previous thread if you're interested in how giraffes, infrasound, and ghosts are all related.

2007-07-24 16:58:16

7. bigcpa

3 We need Glenn Close to show up in a white dress to shake this spell.

2007-07-24 16:59:30

8. silverwidow

4-No, he just scares me a whole bunch. Lance Carter-style.

2007-07-24 17:01:01

9. underdog

An Eric Hull appearance wouldn't be such a bad sign, necessarily however.

I may miss most of this game, and Hull's debut, however, if I can get out of work in time to catch a movie.

2007-07-24 17:01:20

10. Jacob L

8 Well, let me know which relievers you would like to use tonight, and I'll see if I can make it happen;)

2007-07-24 17:01:51

11. underdog

(Put the word "necessarily" after "wouldn't" above, and then put my brain in a jar for the rest of the day. I'm fried.)

2007-07-24 17:03:09

12. goofus

News Flash!!! Cougar Attacks Dodger Catcher Russel Martin!!!
What, Alyssa wants Russel's bones? Never fear, Russ, I'll interpose my worthless hulk between you to take the charge. 'Tis a noble thing I do...

2007-07-24 17:05:57

13. Jacob L

And, we're underway from Houston . . .

2007-07-24 17:06:07

14. Gagne55

10 Beimel and Broxton would mean leads in the 8th and 9th respectively, so them I suppose.

2007-07-24 17:06:21

15. El Lay Dave

2 Babe the (Dodger) Blue Ox Broxton.

2007-07-24 17:07:40

16. Gagne55

12 Perhaps Martin shouldn't catch Penny anymore then...

2007-07-24 17:08:59

17. fanerman

16 Maybe Penny would warn Martin to stay away. Well, on second thought, who knows what kind of advice Penny would give.

2007-07-24 17:09:04

18. Gagne55

Wait a minute. Mr. Weisman said Leiberthal was starting today. Lies!!

2007-07-24 17:09:24

19. Indiana Jon

15 I like it!

2007-07-24 17:10:25

20. fanerman

15 That's a good nickname. I'll call him Babe from now on.

2007-07-24 17:10:46

21. Daniel Zappala

http://apse.dallasnews.com/contest1999/writing/over250.sdut4.html

When USC played in the 1997 NCAA Regional postseason tournament in Alabama, a local newspaper called Eric Munson the son of Thurman Munson, the late Yankees All-Star catcher. Area fans were convinced it was true until the USC parents directed them to Steve and Dora Munson, who confirmed the player wearing No. 3 was their boy.

2007-07-24 17:11:12

22. Jon Weisman

18 - I have documentation. I have to blame the Dodgers' PR department. Or Grady, for changing his mind on them.

2007-07-24 17:13:18

23. jasonungar07

signs that you are getting old:

Alyssa Milano, the little cute chick from Who's the boss (Sam) is now a Cougar. I wonder what Jonathan is up to.

2007-07-24 17:13:38

24. El Lay Dave

It should be noted that Bluebleeder has used the "Blue Ox" nickname for Broxton previously in DT.

2007-07-24 17:14:52

25. Indiana Jon

24 Was it used with the all important "Babe" proceeding it?

2007-07-24 17:16:49

26. underdog

The Astros broadcast had this as one of the things on Hendy's scouting report: "Runs the floor well." I don't have sound here at work, so I can't tell if that was meant to be poking fun of his former NBA career, or just some weird scouting thing I've never heard of. Clever, if it's the former.

2007-07-24 17:18:18

27. Xeifrank

DodgerSims gives a Dodger pre-game win probability of 51.4%, and that was run with Kemp in the lineup instead of Ethier... probably still keeps us in the toss-up (within margin of error) range.
vr, Xei

2007-07-24 17:19:04

28. Marty

Well, that was nice.

2007-07-24 17:19:15

29. underdog

Lieberthal would've had that one! {duck}

Okay, on that note, or on that run, I'm out of here. Good luck Dodgers!

2007-07-24 17:20:15

30. BlueCrew Bruin

Wow, Battle of the Beard Brothers on Gameday (Hendrickson/Ensberg).

2007-07-24 17:20:25

31. Jacob L

26 Has there ever been an athlete who played 2 sports at the highest level as poorly as Hendrickson?

2007-07-24 17:20:36

32. trainwreck

Astros announcers have been ripping on Martin's techniques a lot.

2007-07-24 17:21:08

33. Marty

31 Chuck Conners?

2007-07-24 17:21:41

34. regfairfield

32 He really needs to study Brad Ausmus some more.

2007-07-24 17:22:32

35. NorCalDodger

Well, that works

2007-07-24 17:23:35

36. PDH5204

Update for those fond of Snell: he just gave up a 2-run homer to John Maine and now is on the losing end of a 6-2 score in the 4th. Seems that one Ian Snell has a morbid aversion to pitching well on the road.

2007-07-24 17:23:45

37. Robert Daeley

If I recall correctly, there are a few Danica McKellar fans here. Apparently she has a new mathematics book coming out intended for middle-school girls:

"Math Doesn't Suck: How to Survive Middle School Math Without Losing Your Mind or Breaking a Nail."

http://www.danicamckellar.com/

2007-07-24 17:23:51

38. Suffering Bruin

Every time Kent does something well, I'm reminded how his signing was maligned in LA on the radio and in print.

2007-07-24 17:23:58

39. El Lay Dave

Hmmm, maybe those career pitcher/batter splits do mean something.

2007-07-24 17:24:41

40. Jon Weisman

I just can't believe Kent's on-base streak. Really something.

2007-07-24 17:25:13

41. Jacob L

38 I was fine with the signing, but maligned the heck out of the extension What do I know?

2007-07-24 17:26:44

42. Linkmeister

Gonzo steals a base? At his age? Shame on you, Luis!

2007-07-24 17:27:21

43. NorCal-Dodger

40 Boy talk of a player that likes to haunt his old teams.

2007-07-24 17:27:41

44. Daniel Zappala

Hendrickson has a WHIP of 1.35. If he pitches 6 innings tonight, he will allow 8 baserunners. He's already allowed 2, so that's 6 more to go. Based on his ERA, he will allow 2 more runs on those 6 hits. This analysis brought to you jointly by the Committee for the Simplistic Use of Statistics and Citizens for the Elimination of Anxiety.

2007-07-24 17:27:52

45. Suffering Bruin

41 When he was signed, Tim Brown (whom I like a lot) said the Dodgers "broke even" by getting Kent and losing Cora. That thinking was pervasive and frankly, insane.

Doug Kirkorian and Joe McDonnel thought Kent would be terrible because he couldn't play defense.

It was a very weird time.

2007-07-24 17:27:55

46. Lexinthedena

If Kent goes to the AL next year, he might hit for another 3 years...he's amazing...

2007-07-24 17:28:32

47. El Lay Dave

Kent with five straight hits to start the road trip.

2007-07-24 17:28:36

48. trainwreck

Loney stuck out 106 hitters in 54 innings!

We have found our pitching solution.

2007-07-24 17:28:59

49. imperabo

I never understood the criticism of the Kent signing or extension. It's not for that much or that long, and he hits well enough to play any position if he can't cut it at second.

2007-07-24 17:29:03

50. Curtis Lowe

Does that homer count as getting on base?

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2007-07-24 17:29:31

51. Lexinthedena

45- Everyone was still basking in the glow of the Izturis/Cora DP combo on tthat loveable playoff team that would have never made an impact in the postseason...

2007-07-24 17:29:38

52. El Lay Dave

48 Babe Loney.

2007-07-24 17:29:44

53. NorCalDodger

J.Lo!

2007-07-24 17:29:49

54. Suffering Bruin

Here's a question: what is the WHIP borderline? What is the WHIP equivalent to getting a C in class?

ERA is, what, 4.00?

2007-07-24 17:30:00

55. FirstMohican

In play, run(s)!!

2007-07-24 17:30:08

56. trainwreck

So close to a Loney Bomb.

2007-07-24 17:30:19

57. Jacob L

45 Krikorian and McDonnell have less credibility than Plaschke.

2007-07-24 17:30:20

58. NorCalDodger

50 Yeah, because you're "touching the bases."

2007-07-24 17:30:23

59. Jon Weisman

Jimmy!

45 - Dodger Thoughts on the Jeff Kent signing, 12/9/05:

http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/16614.html

2007-07-24 17:30:26

60. NorCal-Dodger

Was that close to a HR? Gameday shows up against the wall?

2007-07-24 17:31:04

61. NorCalDodger

I call squeeze play.

2007-07-24 17:31:05

62. Suffering Bruin

A good breaking ball hammered by Loney.

I like Loney. A lot.

2007-07-24 17:31:29

63. lakerican

Yes, In Dodger Stadium would have been a homer.

2007-07-24 17:32:38

64. Connector

That's 29 straight games Loney's gotten on base, right Jon?

2007-07-24 17:32:42

65. Suffering Bruin

59 Aw, man... research? :) Okay, I'll check it out.

2007-07-24 17:33:16

66. Suffering Bruin

60 Only a couple of feet short.

2007-07-24 17:35:03

67. Linkmeister

(Aside)You know you're an artist's fan when you buy an album she sings in a language you don't know, and you still think it's good.

2007-07-24 17:35:13

68. Suffering Bruin

59 Just re-read the post after lo these few years gone by. I think you called it right. He's been a terrific signing, IMHO.

2007-07-24 17:35:44

69. Jacob L

67 Cesaria Evora, by any chance?

2007-07-24 17:35:54

70. Suffering Bruin

67 Do tell?

2007-07-24 17:37:02

71. NorCalDodger

Hendy, 1-2-3 inning, please?

2007-07-24 17:37:59

72. El Lay Dave

54 I don't know but the 2006 NL collective WHIP was 1.403, 2005 was 1.376, 2007 so far is 1.380. High 1.3s?

2007-07-24 17:38:13

73. Linkmeister

An oldie. Linda Ronstadt's "Frenesi." I just got a delivery from http://www.secondspin.com, a "pre-owned" CD purveyor. Also got "Hummin' to Myself" and her album of duets with Emmylou Harris, "Trio."

2007-07-24 17:38:35

74. Suffering Bruin

There we go, Mark!

2007-07-24 17:39:09

75. Suffering Bruin

72 Thanks for that.

2007-07-24 17:39:29

76. Linkmeister

Oops. "Western Wall:The Tucson Sessions," not "Trio." That one was with Dolly and Emmylou.

2007-07-24 17:39:49

77. Suffering Bruin

73 Emmylou Harris. I'd pay money to hear her sing the phone book.

2007-07-24 17:40:08

78. DXMachina

73 Heh, I was about to ask if it was Ronstadt.

2007-07-24 17:40:49

79. Andrew Shimmin

Trio is a funny title for an album of duets.

2007-07-24 17:41:36

80. Andrew Shimmin

Ah. Too slow.

2007-07-24 17:41:43

81. Suffering Bruin

I don't know if it's been posted or said but 2007 is the last time we'll see Biggio.

2007-07-24 17:42:37

82. El Lay Dave

Saw Harris and Ronstadt do a free 40 minutes or so on Janss Steps at UCLA in the early 80s (maybe late 70s?), accompanied only by Emmylou's guitar, for some long-forgotten cause. They were very, very good.

2007-07-24 17:42:43

83. Linkmeister

"Trio" was ok (I got it from the library), but it had more Dolly than I liked at first listen. Second time around it improved. Then they did "Trio II" in 1999 or so; it was much more to my taste.

2007-07-24 17:44:15

84. trainwreck

I figured you were talking about Bjork.

2007-07-24 17:44:30

85. Humma Kavula

"Hummin' to Myself" -- a cover of the Dan Hicks tune?

Love Dan Hicks. Also love the Hot Licks.

2007-07-24 17:44:40

86. Suffering Bruin

Yankees up 5-0 in the second inning. At this pace, they will score a hundred thousand runs before the end of the year.

2007-07-24 17:45:08

87. Marty

I can listen to Los Lobos sing in Spanish all day.

2007-07-24 17:45:10

88. Suffering Bruin

84 That's what I thought.

2007-07-24 17:45:34

89. Suffering Bruin

87 Ditto.

2007-07-24 17:46:45

90. El Lay Dave

85 Hot Licks also the name of Kent's new batting ritual?

2007-07-24 17:46:47

91. Linkmeister

85 Composers were Sammy Fain, Herbert Magidson & Monty Siegel. I don't own any Dan Hicks, so I can't crosscheck.

2007-07-24 17:47:02

92. Suffering Bruin

Inter-division trade alert: Padres interested in Ty Wiggington (2b).

2007-07-24 17:47:29

93. Suffering Bruin

90 :)

2007-07-24 17:49:00

94. NorCalDodger

92 Who would they give up? They don't have much in terms of a farm system. Hopefully the bullpen?

2007-07-24 17:49:14

95. Linkmeister

Here are the lyrics to the Dan Hicks version:
http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=3530822107858661607

When I get to it on the album I'll compare and advise.

2007-07-24 17:49:49

96. Suffering Bruin

My media guide is out of reach. What is the Dodger record for consecutive games reaching base?

2007-07-24 17:49:52

97. Lexinthedena

94- TB's biggest need is relief pitching....

2007-07-24 17:50:55

98. trainwreck

What is Kent doing making an out?

2007-07-24 17:51:23

99. Suffering Bruin

94 That's what I'm thinking since the Tampa Bay bullpen is about as effective as mailing yourself a letter bomb.

2007-07-24 17:51:29

100. NorCalDodger

Good. Blow up that bullpen right when their starters have given up 7 or more runs in 4 straight games...

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2007-07-24 17:51:42

101. Suffering Bruin

Abreu now!

2007-07-24 17:52:40

102. Humma Kavula

91 Wow, didn't realize it was a standard/classic.

Dan Hicks and the Hot Licks are awesome. Their most famous tune is "How Can I Miss You If You Won't Go Away?"

2007-07-24 17:53:11

103. Gen3Blue

Finally I get to watch the game. I guess its a bit wierd for most of you guys starting this early in the evening. But in general, when the D's are on, it's a good time.

2007-07-24 17:56:03

104. twerp

Anyone like J-Load for a Loney nickname?

2007-07-24 17:57:24

105. Samhain

12, 23

Hmm. Alyssa Milano is only thirty-four. Not yet a "cougar", I don't think, ten year age differential or not.

I thought usual usage of the term was for forty-year old women or older. And I never use the expression, since I am nearly sixty.

2007-07-24 17:58:45

106. Curtis Lowe

105 - Danzig?

2007-07-24 17:59:42

107. Linkmeister

The answer is, yes, it's the same song. Opens with the bridge rather than the first verse, which confused me, but then it matches up with the Hicks lyrics.

102 This was her 2004 album of standards with quartet rather than the full orchestra standards she did with Nelson Riddle in the 80s.

Amazon link: http://tinyurl.com/322sh6

2007-07-24 18:00:23

108. El Lay Dave

105 I would never use the term in polite company.

2007-07-24 18:02:02

109. Hallux Valgus

140 I'm sticking with J-Lo. that way, when we're campaigning to get him into the All Star Game, we can use the slogan, "There's Always Room For Jaylo."

2007-07-24 18:03:46

110. Suffering Bruin

Yankees up 7-0 in the second.

I hate them, too, but you have to grudgingly admit that this is extraordinary.

2007-07-24 18:03:49

111. Humma Kavula

95 It's the same song.

Hicks also does a cover of Tom Waits' "The Piano Has Been Drinking," jazzing it up a bit, and one of "I Scare Myself."

He's quite the wordsmith himself. On his song "Up! Up! Up!," the tune opens with these lyrics:

My mother died of asbestos
My father's name was Estes
I don't know if that messed us
Up, or what it did

For a good intro to the Hicks oeuvre, I recommend Alive and Lickin'.

2007-07-24 18:03:59

112. El Lay Dave

18.5 pitches / IP for Hendrickson. Five innings may be all we can hope for, unless his stamina has really improved.

2007-07-24 18:04:21

113. Lexinthedena

Gonzo's out reminded me a lot of the bloop he hit to win it all...what a cheap way to be a hero....

2007-07-24 18:06:00

114. trainwreck

That was quick.

2007-07-24 18:06:46

115. El Lay Dave

Too quick.

2007-07-24 18:07:21

116. regfairfield

112 We want more than five innings of Mark Hendrickson?

2007-07-24 18:08:50

117. Gagne55

It would be nice if the Dodgers had a guy around today that could give them 27 complete games per year.

2007-07-24 18:09:42

118. trainwreck

The Astros broadcast team do all they can to not talk about the game. They did not call one pitch of the last at bat.

2007-07-24 18:12:11

119. El Lay Dave

116 If he can allow only 1 run every 3 innings? Yes.

2007-07-24 18:13:13

120. Hallux Valgus

118 I think I'd do the same thing if I had to broadcast the Astros this year.

2007-07-24 18:13:26

121. El Lay Dave

Time to hit the 405 with only Charlie and Rick to inform me regarding the game. Pray for me.

2007-07-24 18:14:13

122. Gen3Blue

I'm rooting for Mark. I think I would really like to like bigfoot. Its hard to sum up what Bills did for the team last night. Imagine if Hendy held for 7 or 8.

2007-07-24 18:14:17

123. NorCalDodger

Pads up 3-0 on Mike Cameron homer.

2007-07-24 18:15:04

124. Suffering Bruin

121 We will. Because it ain't Charley... it's Rick and Jerry.

Godspeed, friend.

2007-07-24 18:15:20

125. Gen3Blue

Hey, short innings are great if your guy is putting them down!

2007-07-24 18:15:31

126. still bevens

121 Its Jerry Reuss and Rick. Steiner is on TV with Psycho.

2007-07-24 18:16:01

127. DXMachina

Do the Dodgers have a plane to catch or something tonight? They seem in an awful hurry to get back to the dugout.

2007-07-24 18:16:13

128. Suffering Bruin

118 That's criminal, IMHO.

2007-07-24 18:16:40

129. Suffering Bruin

Then again, the crowd could not be more apathetic.

2007-07-24 18:16:41

130. still bevens

Not that thats a value judgment on Jerry Reuss. I kinda like him. The only thing I'm not a fan of are his tourettes like outbursts of advertisements.

2007-07-24 18:16:43

131. regfairfield

Hendrickson is now 0 for 40 as a Dodger.

2007-07-24 18:17:18

132. Gagne55

119 He's been effectively wild tonight. effectively wild being the euphomism for looking terrible but not giving up runs.

2007-07-24 18:21:27

133. regfairfield

Hendrickson's 0 for 40 is the Dodger record for most at bats without a hit.

2007-07-24 18:22:31

134. Humma Kavula

Juan Pierre, last three games: 1 for 11 with a sacrifice and a walk.

2007-07-24 18:22:48

135. Lexinthedena

130- I like Jerry, but Rick is disorienting....

2007-07-24 18:23:21

136. bhsportsguy

134 DT day took a lot out of him.

2007-07-24 18:23:53

137. Marty

I am not in the Jerry Reuss Marching and Chowder Society.

2007-07-24 18:25:20

138. Lexinthedena

132- I would't say that Hendrickson has looked terrible...made some real nice pitches, but this is a pretty bad team....

2007-07-24 18:26:17

139. Connector

122 I'm also rooting for him. Hendy has the potential, through his height, to overpower hitters. I don't know what it is, but he appears to be in a constant state of "holding back".

2007-07-24 18:27:27

140. Suffering Bruin

139 I'm rooting for him, too, but he's not going to overpower anybody with that fastball. On a good day, with the wind at his back, he might hit 88mph.

2007-07-24 18:29:23

141. NorCalDodger

Well how fast could he get as a reliever? That might have something to do with it?

2007-07-24 18:30:53

142. Icaros

On a good day, with the wind at his back, he might hit 88mph.

Or he'll fall over.

2007-07-24 18:32:03

143. MMSMikey

give him a day off grady

2007-07-24 18:32:07

144. Suffering Bruin

142 :)

2007-07-24 18:32:37

145. Suffering Bruin