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$10,000,000 Derek Lowe
$9,500,000 Brad Penny
$7,000,000 Esteban Loaiza
*$500,000 Chad Billingsley
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$1,925,000 Joe Beimel
$1,125,000 Scott Proctor
*$500,000 Jonathan Broxton
$500,000 Chan Ho Park
*$400,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
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$13,000,000 Rafael Furcal
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$8,500,000 Nomar Garciaparra
$8,000,000 Juan Pierre
$500,000 Russell Martin
*$400,000 James Loney
*$400,000 Matt Kemp
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$600,000 Mark Sweeney
$424,500 Andre Ethier
$391,000 Delwyn Young
$390,000 Chin-Lung Hu
$390,000 Blake DeWitt
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*$400,000 Tony Abreu
*$390,000 Andy LaRoche
Total: $12,790,000

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$750,000 Odalis Perez
$540,000 Yhency Brazoban
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$487,500 Jason Repko
$135,225 Rudy Seanez
$100,000 Mike Lieberthal
$50,000 Ramon Martinez
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Five, Five, Five, Five, Let's Sing a Song of Five
2007-09-22 16:47
by Jon Weisman

Happy birthday to my darling girl.

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Tonight's 6:40 p.m. game:

Gameday

Retro Gameday

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Comments (241)
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2007-09-22 16:56:16
1.   Bluebleeder87
Let's hope I'm the Dodgers lucky charm today with the 1st post.
2007-09-22 16:57:23
2.   Bob Timmermann
Let her eat cake!
2007-09-22 16:59:01
3.   Eric Stephen
2 What a revolutionary idea!
2007-09-22 17:00:40
4.   Bluebleeder87
I just stepped in the house & tunned in to channel 11, noticed the Halos didn't clinch today, oh well.
2007-09-22 17:01:57
5.   Eric Stephen
Dan Fouts as play by play man? Have I missed something?
2007-09-22 17:02:44
6.   Eric Stephen
From ItD:

Pierre, CF
Abreu, SS
Loney, 1B
Kent, 2B
Gonzo, LF
Kemp, RF
LaRoche, 3B
Lieberthal, C
Wells, P

2007-09-22 17:05:21
7.   max power
Wow, Grady's really shaking it up...
2007-09-22 17:08:31
8.   Bluebleeder87
from what I understand Nomar is still a little banged up so I'm not surprised La Roche is in there, Hillenbrand is probably in Gradys dog house.
2007-09-22 17:09:32
9.   max power
PS. Happy Birthday, Little Miss Weisman...
2007-09-22 17:11:23
12.   Dodgers49
>> LaRoche blamed his struggles at the plate on trying too hard to make an impression. He said he was going to try to simplify his approach.

"I think I was putting too much pressure on myself," he said. "I just have to get back to see the ball, hit the ball." <<

http://tinyurl.com/23ow3u

2007-09-22 17:13:50
14.   Who Is Karim Garcia
10

I think ARod will be looking for a contract with more years.

Trading Furcal is something I am partial to, but that means Pierre would be leading off, or Abreu or Hu if Piere got dealt. Besides, you'd be undeniably selling low on Furcal.

Trading Pierre and THAT much cash is just not fiscally feasible.

I do love D. Young, or at least his bat.

2007-09-22 17:14:12
15.   D4P
"I just have to get back to see the ball, hit the ball."

Be the ball.

2007-09-22 17:17:02
16.   D4P
I think it's neat how, when I go to ESPN to see how the Yankees did on any given day, I don't have to navigate all the way to the MLB scoreboard page. I get to see right there. On the front page. Every day.
2007-09-22 17:21:32
17.   Eric Stephen
Washington State's defensive backs are playing a "no doubles" defense against USC so far.
2007-09-22 17:21:35
18.   Bluebleeder87
12

He's been saying that since ST.

Ps happy birthday to the littlest Weisman..

2007-09-22 17:22:59
19.   silverwidow
Ethier has a 1.401 OPS against Webb...but he's benched.

Does this make logic???

2007-09-22 17:26:11
20.   Eric Stephen
19 Ethier only has 12 PAs against Webb.

However, Grady has made similar decisions with less head-to-head data, so I share your criticism.

2007-09-22 17:26:45
21.   Bluebleeder87
A-Rod will be bringing in A LOT of money as well, So if I were a GM I'd weigh that in as well & WANT to offer him the 2 or 3 more yrs he's gonna be asking for.
2007-09-22 17:28:16
22.   Eric Stephen
Holy crap, Nomar is 0 for 17 against Webb, but with only one strikeout.
2007-09-22 17:30:59
23.   Eric Stephen
22 Only six 1st pitch outs out of the 17 (three 2nd pitch outs).
2007-09-22 17:32:05
24.   Dodgers49
19. Ethier has a 1.401 OPS against Webb...but he's benched.

Does this make logic???

No. But Grady is a "player's manager" so I expected him to start LuGo in all three games in Arizona.

2007-09-22 17:33:15
25.   Eric Stephen
Pierre is 0 for his last 15 vs. Webb, and he is in the lineup (unlike Nomar).
2007-09-22 17:42:29
26.   Dodgers49
There appears to be at least one person who thinks Bonds will have many options:

Bonds runs out of time in San Francisco, but teams will be calling.

>> The only question is how many teams will be eager to sign a 43-year-old who brings lot of baggage along with his big bat.

Plenty, if you believe his agent, who seems to think it will merely be a matter of fielding the best offer for his client.

"Barry will look at his options and look at the team that gives him the best chance to win a World Series," Jeff Borris said. <<

http://tinyurl.com/2n8g49

2007-09-22 18:03:32
27.   Eric Stephen
From Diamond Leung: "Ramon Martinez underwent an MRI on his hyperextended right elbow today and will only play in emergency situations for the remainder of the season."

I'm guessing the Dodgers won't have any emergency situations left in 2007.

2007-09-22 18:06:36
28.   Johnny Nucleo
10 Furcal and Kent are both solid at their positions and will be important parts of our team next year. There's no evidence that Hu or Abreu are ready to start full-time or would provide comparable production at this point to justify putting either of them in the starting position.
2007-09-22 18:13:44
29.   JoeyP
Loney said the sizable generation gap in the clubhouse, and the fact there are few players in their prime to bridge the gap between young and old, probably resulted in some misunderstandings.

The "fact there are few players in their prime" is the main reason the team is in 4th place.

If pointing to bad chemistry helps get Ned fired----then great. But I maintain its a nonissue in winning games.

2007-09-22 18:14:37
30.   Bluebleeder87
Brandon Webb is a tough customer...

He HAS given up 3 or 4 runs per game (last 2 starts) so if Wells keeps the Snakes at bay we should have a descent chance.

2007-09-22 18:15:58
31.   Bob Timmermann
You are looking live from the Rose Bowl where I am sitting around drinking coffee as I got here rather quickly.

As I walked in, my iPod cued up (at random) "Everything's coming up roses" by Ethel Merman. That was followed two songs later by one of UCLA's fight songs.

In between was "Brandy" by Looking Glass.

2007-09-22 18:18:51
32.   Dodgers49
Youth movement cost Dodgers playoffs

>> Back in the middle of August, Dodgers starter Derek Lowe offered this opinion about the team's love affair with its youngsters:

"To go with a total youth movement is not fair to the veterans, and not fair to the city. I am a firm believer that you use the minor league system to help the major league team now. You try to win today, and four years from now, you will probably have a kid just as good as the one you got rid of." <<

## It should be noted that Kent, although passionate about winning, is probably the most valuable veteran on the club, and yet he prefers to sit in the corner reading a motorcycle magazine and keep to himself. He leads by example, to be sure, but he's no Kirk Gibson, and this team could sorely use one. ##

%% The suggestion of Alex Rodriguez coming to the Dodgers is usually met with a glass of water and a couple of aspirin. The Dodgers might be the smallest-minded big-market team in the majors. %%

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20910182

2007-09-22 18:21:25
33.   KG16
"smallest-minded big-market team in the majors" - I think we have our slogan for next year.
2007-09-22 18:23:31
34.   Bluebleeder87
This dark claud has a strangle hold on L.A. today, it's raining pretty heavy in my area at the moment...
2007-09-22 18:27:30
35.   Bluebleeder87
33

Yup....

2007-09-22 18:28:24
36.   Bluebleeder87
3for3

It's stopped raining, good I have a game tomorrow...

2007-09-22 18:30:28
37.   Eric Stephen
32 Michael Ventre just might be the dumbest sportswriter in America.

"The Dodgers have been out of the NL wild card race for some time now, even though they have yet to make it official"

They were 1.5 games out last Saturday. Reading that article made my head hurt they way Plaschke and Simers usually do.

"Watching kids is hell."

2007-09-22 18:31:39
38.   Marty
Ventre is an idiot.
2007-09-22 18:32:41
39.   Ricardo
With Bonds not coming back next season, I believe the Giants will try to sign A-Rod.I hope that McCourt gives Ned the "green light" to sign A-Rod.
2007-09-22 18:35:23
40.   Eric Stephen
More bile from Ventre: "they like to garnish the roster with token veterans like Juan Pierre and Luis Gonzalez to cover up the fact that the main course consists of minor league hopefuls like James Loney, Andre Ethier and Andy LaRoche."

1) LaRoche has barely played, so I don't see how he's a main course.
2) Ethier has almost two full years in the majors now, so I think he's outgrown "minor league hopeful" status.
3) Loney's major league line: .315/.368/.528, 126 OPS+ in 451 PA. If only all "minor league hopefuls" were so good
4) No mention of Kemp or Martin, who apparently aren't grouped with Ethier even though the service time is equal

This article begs to be dissected at Fire Joe Morgan.

2007-09-22 18:36:33
41.   Eric Stephen
40 Ethier's service time is not equal to Martin or Kemp, but it is close enough where my point still stands.
2007-09-22 18:42:03
42.   Linkmeister
Happy birthday to the five-year-old.
2007-09-22 18:43:14
43.   underdog
Can you respond or post a comment to Ventre? Seems worth taking him to task a bit.
2007-09-22 18:44:06
44.   Eric Stephen
Minor league hopeful Loney singles, raising his seasonal and career OPS to .898.
2007-09-22 18:44:38
45.   underdog
I wonder if Kent will purposely make an out here just to spite Loney.
2007-09-22 18:45:26
46.   underdog
Yep.
2007-09-22 18:48:42
47.   Eric Stephen
WOW, that was a bomb!
2007-09-22 18:48:51
48.   Ricardo
45.Kent is 39 and will never learn how to be a good teammate.
2007-09-22 18:49:25
49.   Linkmeister
Oh fine. Gameday loads in time for me to see HOMERUN at the top of the screen.

(Waves towel weakly from the corner. I give up.)

2007-09-22 18:49:42
50.   Sam DC
Golden Sombrero for Ryan Howard v. the Nats (Redding 3Ks, Rauch 1).

Game is tied in the 8th, so Titanium is not out of the question.

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2007-09-22 18:49:58
51.   Bob Timmermann
The Rose Bowl turf looks soggy. Then again, it is raining now although very lightly.

I would hate to see UCLA's high-powered offense bogged down by an off track.

Who am I kidding? It won't make a difference.

2007-09-22 18:51:45
52.   Eric Stephen
50 Is titanium 6 Ks? I don't think it's been officially identified yet. Nice pull!
2007-09-22 18:52:26
53.   Sam DC
How bout them Devil Rays.

Or, should I say, them Rays?

2007-09-22 18:54:37
54.   Sam DC
Old friend Jayson Werth up in a big spot -- tied in the 8th with 2 on 2 out.

3 run homer from him sank the Nationals a couple of nights ago.

2007-09-22 18:55:21
55.   MMSMikey
is it just me or did it look like pierre jogged ater that ball.
2007-09-22 18:55:34
56.   Eric Stephen
I'm really torn. I can't stand the D-Backs, but I also can't stand the Padres. I'm not sure which team I want to lose more.

It's probably the D-Backs, though. Their uppance needs to come.

2007-09-22 18:55:40
57.   Sam DC
52 Yeah someone here id'd titanium a few days ago. Still a ways to go for that in fairness.
2007-09-22 18:56:00
58.   Eric Stephen
55 Just you.
2007-09-22 18:56:01
59.   Sam DC
Werth Ks.
2007-09-22 18:56:37
60.   Ricardo
It´s going to be another long nigh for the Dodgers. I hope this season ends as soon as possible.
2007-09-22 18:56:39
61.   Marty
How many times has Little promised sweeping changes in the lineup and then didn't do it? At least 5 times by my reckoning. Unless sitting Martin is considered sweeping.
2007-09-22 18:56:42
62.   MMSMikey
jack stephan?
2007-09-22 19:00:15
63.   Eric Stephen
Great relay throw from Abreu!
2007-09-22 19:01:02
64.   ucladodger
Lieby got clocked on that one. Abreu has a gun, too.
2007-09-22 19:01:27
65.   Ricardo
61. He´s defenitely trying to lose with Lieberthal catching for Wells. There are 13 teams with better records, so the Dodgers will have to lose some games to get a top 15 first-round draft pick.
2007-09-22 19:01:46
66.   Andrew Shimmin
Glad Martin is sitting today. And it's a good thing LuGo isn't; Reynolds probably wouldn't have tested Ethier.
2007-09-22 19:02:10
67.   Bluebleeder87
Really nice really by ALL, specially by Abreu, I remember him making another great throw like that during ST against Detroit, good job all around.
2007-09-22 19:02:37
68.   JoeyP
Lieberthal took a shot.
Wells night might not be long.
2007-09-22 19:06:03
69.   Eric Stephen
Daron Sutton on Matt Kemp: "Boy, you look at those numbers and you think how in the world does he ever stay out of the lineup."

See, Daron Sutton gets it!

2007-09-22 19:07:02
70.   Bluebleeder87
That's nice news, Vinnie just said Matt Kemp was gonna move to Zona because there's a great training facility out there (Martin, Loney & Ethier all belong there) I hope it brings good results for him, It sure did for the another's.
2007-09-22 19:09:03
71.   Sam DC
Philadelphia has committed three errors tonight and allowed seven hits, but given up just one run.
2007-09-22 19:09:05
72.   Eric Stephen
70 God, I hope that AZ facility doesn't get raided by the feds! :)
2007-09-22 19:09:15
73.   Bluebleeder87
man, Lieberthal & La Roche have similar swings no? I think there pretty similar.
2007-09-22 19:09:27
74.   Ricardo
70. And Kent is not welcomed there!:P
2007-09-22 19:11:01
75.   Eric Stephen
More reason to love Milton Bradley: He called Eric Byrnes' tactics "false hustle".

The AZ announcers do not agree. Let's just say I don't think anyone from the D-Backs organization will be calling in the booth during the broadcast to question the content.

2007-09-22 19:11:14
76.   Bluebleeder87
72

I'm not sure but I think the Dodgers payed Martin, Loney & Ethiers way (I'm sure the Dodgers did there research) so I'm SURE it's clean

2007-09-22 19:11:16
77.   Andrew Shimmin
If Martians ever invade the planet, and demand proof that the human race should be spared, they should immediately be introduced to Eric Byrnes.
2007-09-22 19:13:12
78.   Eric Stephen
77 It's a cookbook!!!!
2007-09-22 19:13:19
79.   Sam DC
Gagne v. Navarro in Tampa Bay . . .
2007-09-22 19:13:30
80.   Ricardo
Eric Byrnes, the Tennis Player. I love when Vin tell those stories.
2007-09-22 19:13:45
81.   Eric Stephen
I, for one, would like to welcome our new Martian overlords.
2007-09-22 19:15:08
82.   Eric Stephen
LaRoche looked hurt on that play.
2007-09-22 19:15:22
83.   Andrew Shimmin
Drew caught LaRoche in the knee with his cleats.
2007-09-22 19:16:17
84.   ucladodger
Drew was out on that play. He slid into LaRoche and only hit the bag after he was tagged.
2007-09-22 19:16:39
85.   JoeyP
Wells needs a double for the cycle.
2007-09-22 19:17:23
86.   ucladodger
I just wonder what kind of numbers Kemp would have put up if he was given the Chris Young treatment (you know, playing your uber-talented youngster every day)
2007-09-22 19:17:45
87.   Sam DC
79 Gagne wins.
2007-09-22 19:17:58
88.   Andrew Shimmin
The sequel to A Beautiful Mind will be called A Beautiful Everything Else. It'll be the story of Eric Byrnes. The part of Milton Bradley will be played by an envious little girl.
2007-09-22 19:21:13
89.   Gen3Blue
Just got in from babysitting--How we doing?
Don't really want to know, but how anyone could complain about anything but our pitching staff is beyond me. Many of the small market teams have 3 or 4 end of the rotation guys about like ours but they aren't paying them 5-10 mil apiece. Matter of fact they would take 4 Houltons in a split second.
2007-09-22 19:21:15
90.   Eric Stephen
88 Someone's creeping into the top 10.
2007-09-22 19:21:20
91.   Icaros
88

I like how you conveniently overlook Byrnes's attempted drowning of a dog in McCovey Cove during this year's All-Star game.

Or maybe you just don't think that's a big deal.

2007-09-22 19:24:21
92.   ucladodger
oh my god, i hope james is okay,
2007-09-22 19:24:28
93.   Eric Stephen
I hope the cameras don't cut to Jeff Kent right now.
2007-09-22 19:24:59
94.   JoeyP
Ouch, Loney.
I've never seen that before.
2007-09-22 19:25:03
95.   Andrew Shimmin
Baseball sucks.
2007-09-22 19:26:01
96.   Sam DC
Eek - Ryan Howard up with 2 on no outs in the top of the 10th.

Platinum for Mr. Howard?

2007-09-22 19:26:21
97.   Gen3Blue
Thats about all I have to see to make me sick.
2007-09-22 19:26:23
98.   Frip
93 Jeff is better than that, and so are you...
2007-09-22 19:26:27
99.   Eric Stephen
This HR will be legendary.
2007-09-22 19:27:01
100.   Eric Stephen
98 You are correct. That was a low blow. I apologize.
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2007-09-22 19:27:03
101.   Sam DC
Meanwhile, Boston tied it in the ninth on a Varitek home run.
2007-09-22 19:28:34
102.   Daniel Zappala
Can someone tell me what happened to Loney? I didn't make the short drive to Phoenix today, so I can't watch the game.
2007-09-22 19:28:35
103.   StolenMonkey86
what happened?
2007-09-22 19:28:53
104.   Bluebleeder87
You knew he was gonna be o.k. (just really painful I bet) It's a different story when you go down & your not moving at all.
2007-09-22 19:29:09
105.   Sam DC
And Julio Lugo makes it 8-6 with a two run home run.
2007-09-22 19:30:14
106.   Bluebleeder87
Loney fouled a ball straight down on the plate, so the ball bounced right back next to his ear, it looked painful but he was alert so no biggie.
2007-09-22 19:30:34
107.   Eric Stephen
102 ,103 Loney hit a ball straight down, that immediately bounced off the plate and came up and hit him right near the ear. Loney immediately crumpled in a heap at the plate. He stayed in and grounded out on the next pitch.
2007-09-22 19:32:09
108.   JoeyP
Nice catch Juan.
Wells isnt fooling anyone.
2007-09-22 19:32:18
109.   Gen3Blue
At least they are not hitting Wells hard. Its just these darn dinkers.
2007-09-22 19:33:17
110.   Icaros
Loney has had some horrific-looking accidents this season which have thankfully turned out to be unserious.
2007-09-22 19:33:41
111.   JoeyP
Yep, darn dinkers...
2007-09-22 19:34:29
112.   Michael D
AZ is greatly helping their run differential at our expense.
2007-09-22 19:35:05
113.   Eric Stephen
I hope the Dodgers didn't expand on the bonuses Wells was due in his Padres contract. He better not be getting $175k tonight that could be thrown into the "A-Rod Jar" in the kitchen at Dodger Stadium.
2007-09-22 19:36:02
114.   Bluebleeder87
Who's the guy doing the game with Daron Sutton? I just peaked over there & it doesn't sound like Mark "get your facts straight your paid to know stuff" Grace
2007-09-22 19:36:20
115.   Gen3Blue
I'm loving these announcers.
If the D's could come up with average pitching, it seems like we would be unbeatable. I realize 4-0 is not the best example of this.
2007-09-22 19:37:06
116.   JoeyP
Kent will find a way to blame the youngsters for David Wells bad outing.

It was Russ's fault...Er um. Ok.

2007-09-22 19:38:04
117.   Eric Stephen
114 Joe Garagiola is the color guy tonight, and all I can think of is Game 1 1988.
2007-09-22 19:38:17
118.   Gen3Blue
116 For letting Lieanderthal catch?
2007-09-22 19:40:17
119.   Eric Stephen
No doubt Kemp will catch flack for not running to first there. And deservedly so. But it will be blown out of proportion.
2007-09-22 19:41:06
120.   Frip
Strange how Garagiola just disappeared so quickly, when he'd been been such a constant figure in the game.
2007-09-22 19:41:16
121.   Bluebleeder87
117

yeah, yeah, my brain said he sounded familiar but I couldn't quite pint point who it was.

2007-09-22 19:41:23
122.   Michael D
Grace announced for Fox today in the Mets/Marlins game. He is really annoying.
2007-09-22 19:41:57
123.   JoeyP
Webb's sinker is on tonight.
Amazing that the Dbax have won so many games with virtually nothing out of RJ.
2007-09-22 19:45:51
124.   Gen3Blue
Its not much fun looking like whipped puppies and having the announcers enjoy it so much, is it? As bad as we have been, luck can always turn around in baseball, and the broadcasters are green enough to leave themselves wide open. They probably won't have to eat crow, but there are many who would love to see that last large black feather catch on a soft spot in their throat.
2007-09-22 19:49:29
125.   Eric Stephen
Wells with SD: 5.54 ERA
Wells with LA: 5.34 ERA

Tomko with LA: 5.80 ERA
Tomko with SD: 2.65 ERA

2007-09-22 19:52:44
126.   Gen3Blue
What a play that was with King Faruk running.
2007-09-22 19:53:24
127.   Bluebleeder87
youth I wanna see hit BOMBS TONIGHT:

La Roche
Abreu
Kemp
Martin
Loney

_______________

Non roocks I wanna see hit a long ball:

Lieberthal.

2007-09-22 19:54:01
128.   underdog
If the Padres make the playoffs and Tomko becomes this year's version of last year's Jeff Weaver, I'm gonna kick a puppy, too. Or at least a pigeon.
2007-09-22 19:54:14
129.   Gen3Blue
Wow, I like the Pierre spits on his hands.
2007-09-22 19:54:57
130.   Eric Stephen
128 You could feed an orphan pigeon to a puppy, then kick the puppy.
2007-09-22 19:55:45
131.   underdog
126 I'm with Blue. Preferably all 6 of them. I feel for Lieberthal; the only times he gets starts it's usually with the Dodgers worst starters, and then tonight he has to face Webb.
2007-09-22 19:56:25
132.   underdog
(Oops, meant 127 above)
2007-09-22 19:57:49
133.   Bluebleeder87
Martin ain't playing today, oops.
2007-09-22 20:01:45
134.   Gen3Blue
131 132 I thought you meant 127 but I appreciate it anyway. It seems like a while since I've had anyone with me.

OK---this is getting overdone--I pray for a reversal!!!

2007-09-22 20:02:00
135.   Sam DC
Phillies win.
2007-09-22 20:02:12
136.   underdog
Oops. Obviously I'm not paying attention, either.

Well, we're gonna watch the rest of the Kiwi killer sheep movie, "Black Sheep" now. Have a screener.