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$7,000,000 Esteban Loaiza
*$500,000 Chad Billingsley
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*$400,000 James Loney
*$400,000 Matt Kemp
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$600,000 Mark Sweeney
$424,500 Andre Ethier
$391,000 Delwyn Young
$390,000 Chin-Lung Hu
$390,000 Blake DeWitt
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*$390,000 Andy LaRoche
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November 19 Open Chat
2007-11-19 09:29
by Jon Weisman

For baseball talk and the usual stuff ...

  • Conversation fodder at Sons of Steve Garvey.

  • Chan Ho Park may not attempt a comeback with the Dodgers after all according to the Korea Times (via Diamond Leung at the Press-Enterprise).

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    Comments (350)
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    2007-11-19 09:37:17
    1.   Jacob L
    Well, I didn't think it belonged in the thread below. I just wanted to pass along a hearty mazel tov to the Kavulas.

    Love the name!

    2007-11-19 09:38:00
    2.   CajunDodger
    I wonder if the Angels trading their second or third best offensive threat and their best defensive infielder is a sign that Miggy Cabrera is coming to Anaheim...
    2007-11-19 09:40:05
    3.   Daniel Zappala
    There's definitely got to be other moves coming for the Angels. Didn't see that one coming.
    2007-11-19 09:41:10
    4.   Benaiah
    So the Angels traded Caberra for Garland. ESPN says they had to pay a steep price, but I see a guy who has had as many seasons with an OPS in the 600s as the 700s in the past four years. Maybe that Juan Pierre rumor was real. Maybe we can still foist Pierre on them.
    2007-11-19 09:42:23
    5.   LogikReader
    Having two Cabreras on the team would yield a conflict of interest. =)

    Cabrera traded to the Sox for Garland. Interesting weekend on from the stove. That puts an end to the Pierre trade talk, unless, he gets traded for Contreras.

    I had something else I just thought of, but I forgot.

    2007-11-19 09:42:58
    6.   D4P
    I love how ESPN labels Cabrera's 2007 a "career year".
    2007-11-19 09:43:00
    7.   CajunDodger
    3
    This guy is no Stoneman. He may be willing to trade the jewels of the farm for Miggy.

    That is quite the pitching staff. That also creates a placeholder in case Adenhart is traded. Very interesting move. Not sure who got the better of the move, but interesting nonetheless.

    2007-11-19 09:44:16
    8.   LogikReader
    Oh here we go, I just remembered it.

    I'm getting a real kick out of Torii Hunter this week. Two weeks ago, he talked up the White Sox, a week ago, he talked up Texas, and apparently, two threads ago, there was a report he talked up the Dodgers.

    Torii is a terrific spokesperson for himself.

    2007-11-19 09:46:59
    9.   Daniel Zappala
    Now that I think about it, Cabrera can be pretty easily replaced by Maicer Izturis. Not sure how his glove compares, but his bat is just as good.
    2007-11-19 09:47:31
    10.   LogikReader
    Now I'm getting a kick out of this...

    Ken Rosenthal: The Dodgers are desperate for offense. They want to upgrade in center field. They need a veteran leader to mend their clubhouse.

    A veteran... to mend the clubhouse? It was a veteran who ripped it up in 2007.

    2007-11-19 09:48:10
    11.   LogikReader
    10

    Tiny url is down, so here's the link to the above

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7445434

    2007-11-19 09:48:11
    12.   regfairfield
    It's rare you see two terribly overrated guys coming off fluke years traded for each other with no way to replace the hole they created on either side.

    I really don't see how either side gets any benifit from it.

    2007-11-19 09:54:24
    13.   Daniel Zappala
    12 Wasn't Garland's fluke year back in 2005? Can't the Angels replace Cabrera with Izturis easily enough?
    2007-11-19 09:55:00
    14.   CajunDodger
    12
    I see Anaheim as the winner because they get a solid 3-4 type who buys them time to get their offense in order. They now have 5 pitchers that they will control for 3 years. This allows them to focus almost all their attention on Cabrera now that their starting rotation is probably tied with Boston for the deepest in Baseball.
    2007-11-19 09:56:55
    15.   CajunDodger
    14
    Probably could have stated that better. Garland is a one-year bridge that allows one of their youngsters to step up. Didn't mean to imply that they had Garland for 3 years...
    2007-11-19 09:57:08
    16.   Benaiah
    Imagine this lineup(from Rosenthal's article):

    Rafael Furcal
    Juan Pierre
    Cabrera
    Kent
    Hunter
    James Loney
    Russell Martin
    Andre Ethier

    I tried to imagine that and it made me angry.

    2007-11-19 09:57:40
    17.   LogikReader
    14

    By Cabrera, may I assume you mean Piggy Cabrera? It sounds like a win-win if the Angels go for it.

    2007-11-19 09:58:36
    18.   regfairfield
    13 You can have multiple fluke years. He somehow managed to succeed with a strikeout rate in the low fours this year and a 1.71 K/BB. Garland doesn't deserve a spot in most rotations, let alone the Angels.
    2007-11-19 09:58:51
    19.   MC Safety
    There has to be something much larger in the works. I will guess Brandon Wood, Nick Adenhart, maybe Willits/Santana gets it done.
    2007-11-19 09:59:58
    20.   regfairfield
    13 I don't know how good Maicer's D is at short to make a judgement.
    2007-11-19 10:03:01
    21.   Bob Timmermann
    For entertainment purposes only:

    USC -3 1/2 at Arizona State
    Oregon -2 1/2 at UCLA

    2007-11-19 10:03:19
    22.   MC Safety
    20- He's an Izturis, he was born to play shortstop.
    2007-11-19 10:05:04
    23.   CajunDodger
    22
    Like a Molina at Catcher...
    2007-11-19 10:05:08
    24.   Kevin Lewis
    21

    I just remembered that Oregon's QB is out, so that is why the spread is so small.

    2007-11-19 10:05:51
    25.   Bob Timmermann
    22
    The good-fielding shortstop gene in the Izturis family is a sex-linked trait and only carried on the X chromosome.

    Maicer and Cesar have different moms.

    2007-11-19 10:06:39
    26.   D4P
    Oregon -2 1/2 at UCLA

    Wow. If that line weren't just FEPO, I'd bet the house on the home team.

    2007-11-19 10:07:05
    27.   Bob Timmermann
    24
    UCLA has two quarterbacks out, although neither of them were particularly good to begin with.
    2007-11-19 10:07:45
    28.   JoeyP
    I like this trade for the Angels.
    Garland is still in his prime (29 years old), is very durable (200+ innings the last 4 years), and has pretty good control.

    Orlando Cabrera is 33 yrs old and has a career OBP-.321, SLG-.403.

    Not sure if this was covered last week--but what on earth was Brian Sabean thinking when he re-signed Omar Vizquel?

    The guy cant hit, is older than dust, and you're going to give him 5 mils bucks a year?

    How do Giants fans maintain hope?

    2007-11-19 10:08:41
    29.   Benaiah
    20 - Garland has had an ERA under 5 every year since 2001 and an ERA under 4.6 every year except one in that same time frame. He shouldn't be able to do it, he should get rocked with that WHIP, K/9, K/BB ect. On the other hand, the fact that he has been a very serviceable back of the rotation pitcher for 6 or so years leads me to believe that his regression will be less than you think.
    2007-11-19 10:09:45
    30.   CajunDodger
    27
    I gotta say that Ben Olson may have missed his calling. I coached against his team in high school basketball and was awed by this kid's athleticism. I asked around at the game and was told that basketball was just a hobby for him and that he was planning on a football career.

    He could have been one heck of a college basketball player. Maybe not good enough for UCLA, but definitely a D-1 PAC 10 starter.

    2007-11-19 10:10:32
    31.   Benaiah
    Also, his Fielding Independent Pitching ERA has been about what his real ERA has been the last 3 years. His walk rate is pretty low, and he doesn't give up a ton of home runs. Even that is enough to be a worthwhile starter now.
    2007-11-19 10:10:53
    32.   Bob Timmermann
    And just to cover the entire Pac-10:
    Washington -5 1/2 vs Washington State
    Stanford -3 1/2 vs Notre Dame

    And for our friends across the pond:
    Hawai'i -4 vs Boise State

    2007-11-19 10:11:30
    33.   CajunDodger
    31
    That's their rotational insurance, ours is Loaiza.

    {Grumble}

    2007-11-19 10:12:53
    34.   JoeyP
    29--My theory on pitchers like Garland (whom seem to always give up less runs than what their peripherals say) is that he probably gives up alot of solo homers. Garland's a guy with good control, he's going to get ahead in the count, and batters are going to put the ball in play early thus he doesnt K many, nor walk many.

    It's probably Garland's GB/FB ratio that allows him to be successful, similar to Derek Lowe. He's probably just a little careless with givin up the solo homers early in ball games when he's trying to just get ahead in the count.

    2007-11-19 10:12:59
    35.   CajunDodger
    32
    Just to have a bit of Southern Representation:

    LSU -13 over Arkansas.

    2007-11-19 10:13:08
    36.   MC Safety
    25 Ah, although Maicer's hair stylings would lead me to believe he was the slick fielding SS of the family. The slick curls just scream SS to me.
    2007-11-19 10:13:28
    37.   dzzrtRatt
    Welcome to the world Naomi! Congratulations HK and bride of same. So happy for you all.
    2007-11-19 10:15:35
    38.   Linkmeister
    32 It shows how little I gamble on sports, but I don't understand that. Does that mean Hawai'i is favored to win by four?
    2007-11-19 10:16:26
    39.   bigcpa
    Third hand rumor:
    Miguel Cabrera & Dontrelle for Jered Weaver, Nick Adenhart, Kendrick , Mathis, Willits
    2007-11-19 10:17:48
    40.   CajunDodger
    39
    Good Lord...Just give them the Travelers while you're at it.
    2007-11-19 10:19:17
    41.   JoeyP
    I cant tinyurl link this story from yahoo, but apparently Mike Tyson was sentenced to 1 day in jail for felony possession of cocaine and DUI.

    How does a person with Tyson's record, only get 1 day in jail for felony cocaine possession?

    2007-11-19 10:19:58
    42.   MC Safety
    39 Wow, that's a mighty package. I don't think we could/would want to top anything near that. I guess you gotta pay to play.
    2007-11-19 10:21:33
    43.   Linkmeister
    32 To be clearer, it's the minus sign that throws me.
    2007-11-19 10:26:06
    44.   Benaiah
    33 - I don't understand why anyone has a problem with Loaiza. The man is the anti-Garland in terms of consistency, in 2003 he led the AL in ERA and in 2005 he had a 3.77 ERA with Washington, but he had an ERA over 5.7 in 2004 and 2007 (and a below average 4.89 in 2006).

    So who knows what he is going to do for the Dodgers, but I do know that the 4th best starter for the Dodgers last year in terms of ERA was Randy Wolf with 18 starts, 102 innings pitched and a 4.72 ERA. After that the next best starters are David Wells (5.12 ERA, 38.2 IP), Brett Tomko (5.56 ERA, 79.1 IP) and Eric Stults (5.68 ERA, 25.1 IP). Our top 3 pitchers were all very good, but the back of the rotation was absolutely putrid, so Loaiza doesn't have to set the world on fire, just pitch 150+ innings of sub 5 ERA ball and keep his seat warm for McDonald and Kershaw. Considering that his last full year in the NL (in a ridiculous pitcher's park, but still) his FIP was 3.50, I think he is a good bet.

    2007-11-19 10:29:46
    45.   Bob Timmermann
    43
    If you bet (for entertainment purposes only) on Hawai'i, the 'Bows would have to win by more than four points for you to win your bet.

    Which is for entertainment purposes only.

    2007-11-19 10:31:25
    46.   CajunDodger
    33
    My point is that our expectations for our 4-spot in the rotation is especially low.

    If Schmidt comes back and pitches in the 4.0 ERA range, that would be like Pierre with an OBP of .360. Not completely unheard of but a surprise nonetheless.

    That would put Loaiza in the 5-hole where a 4.8-5.0 ERA is acceptable. If Loaiza has to pitch in the 4-hole, I think that is an issue for the Dodgers.

    2007-11-19 10:31:38
    47.   Benaiah
    34 - That is the thing, Garland doesn't have a very high GB%. Derek Lowe's GB% is 65.1% for his career, Garland's is 43.4%. I don't know how he does it, but he does it every year.
    2007-11-19 10:32:07
    48.   D4P
    I don't understand why anyone has a problem with Loaiza

    1. He's not very good
    2. He'll be 37 years old when the season starts

    2007-11-19 10:32:44
    49.   CajunDodger
    Lowell just signed with the Red Sox.
    2007-11-19 10:35:32
    50.   D4P
    49
    Both sides have been in intense negotiations all Monday. According to ESPN's Peter Gammons, both the Phillies and Dodgers were apparently willing to go to four years, but Lowell wants to remain in Boston.
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    2007-11-19 10:35:38
    51.   underdog
    49 Great! One more overpriced veteran off the market.

    Now if only someone else will sign Aaron Rowand, and then Pierre is traded to the White Sox for a pair of sox, and then the Dodgers sign Andruw or Torii or do nothing, and I'll be relieved.

    2007-11-19 10:36:42
    52.   Benaiah
    48 - He is signed to a one year contract and he isn't expected to carry the team. As I pointed out, he will be expected to replace 5+ ERA performance, not be the team ace.
    2007-11-19 10:37:48
    53.   Linkmeister
    45 Thanks. Minus signs, bleah.
    2007-11-19 10:39:19
    54.   JoeyP
    Why would the Dodgers committ 4 years to Mike Lowell?
    2007-11-19 10:39:23
    55.   D4P
    52
    I don't disagree with that, I just see reasons to "have a problem" with the guy. Plus, he's getting paid $7 million to do what Tomko did for $4, and Hendrickson did for less than $4.
    2007-11-19 10:39:27
    56.   LogikReader
    51

    Hooray for the Red Sox!

    So once again, NedCo is thwarted by the other teams. Part of the fun in all this is the degree to which Ned has become oh so predictable.

    2007-11-19 10:40:07
    57.   Kevin Lewis
    53

    Just picture the score starting out as

    Hawaii -4
    Boise 0

    2007-11-19 10:40:43
    58.   D4P
    Why would the Dodgers committ 4 years to Mike Lowell?

    This is the same team that committed:

    1. 3 years to Mueller
    2. 2 years to LuGo (which he declined)
    3. 5 years to Pierre

    2007-11-19 10:40:47
    59.   Kevin Lewis
    54

    It is kind of like Gonzo turning down 2 years. We keep getting lucky in spite of Ned.

    2007-11-19 10:42:39
    60.   LogikReader
    59

    Honestly, I just don't get it... Ned wants to "win now" but for 3-4 years?

    2007-11-19 10:44:42
    61.   D4P
    The surprising thing to me about Ned's pursuit of a 3B is what it would mean for Nomar. Is Ned really gonna pay Nomar $8.5 to sit on the bench? Or is Nomar moving over to 1B, to replace the benched/traded James Loney?
    2007-11-19 10:45:20
    62.   bhsportsguy
    59 As ToyCannon and I were discussing last night, don't believe a lot of what you hear in terms of offers from other teams, the fact is that Mike Lowell never wanted to go anywhere else but Boston but he wanted one more year but Boston would not budge, the reports of additional years could be put out there as cover as agents and players are wondering what is happening to the market.
    2007-11-19 10:45:56
    63.   MC Safety
    41 That is amazing. Whatever remaining clout he must have had is probably gone. This has to be that guy's last chance.
    2007-11-19 10:46:09
    64.   MC Safety
    41 That is amazing. Whatever remaining clout he must have had is probably gone. This has to be that guy's last chance.
    2007-11-19 10:46:22
    65.   Rob M
    Mike Lowell for four years...what in the hell is Ned thinking? That dumbfounds me. What do Kim Ng and Logan White think about that? Is there no sense in that front office?
    2007-11-19 10:47:05
    66.   MC Safety
    whoops..sorry
    2007-11-19 10:47:50
    67.   Andrew Shimmin
    There are lots of tinyurl counterparts.

    http://lists.econsultant.com/top-10-url-redirection-services.html

    2007-11-19 10:49:06
    68.   Benaiah
    It was weird that the Dodgers didn't get any good, short starting seasons last year. In 2006 Aaron Sele, Kuo, Billingsley and Stults combined for 37 starts with cumulative ERA under 4, in the valley of dry bones, 2005, Dessens and Derek Thompson got 10 starts under 4, and in 2004 the Dodgers got 151 innings from Jose Lima! Every starter other than Billingsley, Penny and Lowe was below average last year.
    2007-11-19 10:49:52
    69.   alexx
    I predict La Roche will outperform Lowell in each year of Lowell's new contract.
    2007-11-19 10:50:48
    70.   bhsportsguy
    I mean really, I know GMs don't talk so all you hear is from one side but its obvious, something is amiss right now, spending isn't crazy and once A-Rod couldn't get his mega mega mega deal and just his mega deal, it really changed the dynamic of this off-season.

    I think folks are so ready to dump on Ned that every rumor gets scrutinized and disected.

    A lot of face saving is going on right now, and Don Fehr is probably real suspicious about that GM discussion where everyone talked about what they are looking for their ball clubs.

    2007-11-19 10:51:16
    71.   fiddlestick
    I enjoy seeing reactions when a reporter reports something without a source but reinforces one's particular opinion. It's automatically regarded as 100% true.
    2007-11-19 10:52:25
    72.   ssjames
    Not that it necessarily meant anything, but on Monday of last week, I played in the Mike Scioscia charity golf tournament at Woodranch country club. Also there was Garland and Scioscia was saying that he wished the Angels would get him. At the time, I figured it was just a joke, but he also said that he would want them to get Jack Wilson, who was there as well.
    2007-11-19 10:52:41
    73.   Daniel Zappala
    This is going to be my pet peeve for this offseason I guess. Gammons says the Dodgers apparently were ready to give Lowell 4 years, with no sources, and everyone here assumes this is true and stupid old Colletti was saved by another GM. I'm not a huge Colletti fan, but come on, these are rumors, guys. You're all sentenced to writing out Jon's rumors post 10 times. Here's the URL:

    http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/866211.html

    2007-11-19 10:52:54
    74.   underdog
    I agree with BH, above - we have no proof or confirmation that these rumored contract offers have any basis in truth. A lot of stuff is put out there by agents, in addition to lazy sports writers. I wouldn't overreact based on something that may or may not be true that certainly isn't happening. (Not that it isn't possible, or is beyond Ned Colletti's modus operandi to make such an offer. Just sayin'.)
    2007-11-19 10:53:11
    75.   underdog
    Or, what Daniel said.
    2007-11-19 10:53:38
    76.   CajunDodger
    55
    The only good things I can see about Loaiza are:

    A. Only one year
    B. Potential to be very good if healthy.

    2007-11-19 10:54:25
    77.   Daniel Zappala
    62 bhsportsguy is spared, obviously
    2007-11-19 10:55:28
    78.   silverwidow
    I guess this is what the Angels have now:

    C Mathis/Napoli
    1B Kotchman
    2B Kendrick
    SS E. Aybar
    3B Figgins/Wood
    LF Willits
    CF Matthews
    RF Guerrero
    DH Anderson

    2007-11-19 10:56:05
    79.   bhsportsguy
    77 Its printed out and is taped on my monitor. :)
    2007-11-19 10:57:00
    80.   Andrew Shimmin
    Mueller was a two year contract. Surprising that it even seemed longer, given it only lasted 107 ABs.
    2007-11-19 10:57:40
    81.   bhsportsguy
    77 Did any Angel fan see this coming? Is Brandon Wood going to move back to SS, is Aybar ready or is another Izzy going to play SS for another So Cal team?
    2007-11-19 10:59:16
    82.   Xeifrank
    Loaiza's biggest problem is his propensity of giving up too many home runs. His K/9 is projected to be better than Lowe's and equal to Penny's. His K/BB better than Billingsley's. His K-BB/IP better than Lowe's. But his HR/9 is pretty bad. Chances are he will be good in Petco and SF, bad in Colorado and Arizona and good/bad in LA. The salary is a little high for his skill sets, but as a 5th starter and only signed for one year, he's not an albatross. I think he's a little better than Stultoun.

    vr, Xei

    2007-11-19 11:00:56
    83.   underdog
    This is totally off the subject, but thought I'd plug an interview I just put up: Todd Haynes talks about his new crazy Dylan movie:
    http://www.greencine.com/central/toddhaynes
    2007-11-19 11:02:41
    84.   CajunDodger
    78
    Potential is good, but yuck.

    The Angels are definitely not done. That was just the first domino.

    2007-11-19 11:03:55
    85.   Daniel Zappala
    78 ,81 Assuming no other trades, I think M. Izturis starts at SS for the Angels, with Wood/Figgins at 3B. They also have McPherson coming back from an injury. My guess is McPherson at 3B in AAA, Wood at 3B with the Angels.

    The struggle to replace Glaus with McPherson may be weighing on their minds as they look at Wood. I wouldn't be surprised if they traded for Cabrera, sending a good package of prospects + Santana. I just hope they don't trade Kendrick.

    2007-11-19 11:05:02
    86.   Daniel Zappala
    BH, no I don't think any Angels fan saw that coming. There's no way the Angels are done though.
    2007-11-19 11:08:42
    87.   bhsportsguy
    Just wondering, if folks would have thought a Furcal for Garland deal would have been a good trade, me no because that would probably give more excuses to keep Pierre but also Hu may not be ready to start the season at SS.
    2007-11-19 11:12:17
    88.   LogikReader
    You are right, Daniel. I should know better.
    2007-11-19 11:14:00
    89.   CajunDodger
    87
    I would not care for that trade too much. I just looked over the ChiSox roster, and an equitable trade just doesn't seem to fit.
    2007-11-19 11:15:16
    90.   JoeyP
    87--It depends on what the Dodgers would have used the Furcal money (13 mils) on.

    I'd have liked that deal, just bc Furcal is way way overpaid.

    2007-11-19 11:21:01
    91.   dzzrtRatt
    71 Case in point: Every political blog and most political pundits. The "too good to check" rule applies to how every rumored scandal is reported nowadays. If you happen to find logical inconsistencies in a given allegation, you will be met with ad hominem attacks about your presumed political affiliations.

    The "Ned is so stupid he would probably give Aaron Rowand a 10-year contract" type of comment is the one blemish on this otherwise wonderful oasis of baseball conversation. For me anyway. I disagree with a lot of what Ned has done, but you can't extrapolate from his mistakes that he will make blatantly illogical decisions any more than you can claim all his good moves make him a genius.

    2007-11-19 11:21:35
    92.   Fallout
    The Angel trade was a big surprise to me. I like Orlando Cabrera a lot. I think that this was a move to setup a Miguel Tejada trade.
    2007-11-19 11:23:12
    93.   silverwidow
    90 I believe the Dodgers owe Furcal $17 million (which includes a $4M signing bonus to be paid in 01/09).
    2007-11-19 11:23:48
    94.   Terry A
    91 Can I still say that Ned Colletti's momma is so fat she ate the internet?
    2007-11-19 11:24:48
    95.   CajunDodger
    91
    I know that I have become much more "sky is falling" concerning the Dodgers than I used to be. Speaking just for myself, our inconsistency as an organization and McCourt's OCD with his public image has tinkered with my logical abilities.

    I want to trust Ned and have him do a good job, but my expectations are irrationally low and this is where I vent.

    2007-11-19 11:25:45
    96.   underdog
    87 No, I would've hated that trade. Furcal had a down 07 because of injuries, but when healthy he's a key cog in the Dodgers' offense. You don't trade that - large contract or no - for an average starter, in my opinion.
    2007-11-19 11:26:42
    97.   LogikReader
    91

    I take 13.7% responsibility for the Sky is Falling Attitude.

    2007-11-19 11:28:54
    98.   fanerman
    I, for once, did not contribute to today's SIFA.
    2007-11-19 11:28:54
    99.   bhsportsguy
    90 Wouldn't a lot of that money been spent on acquiring Garland?
    2007-11-19 11:32:29
    100.   gvette
    91 The correct statement would be;
    "Kevin Malone is/was so stupid he would probably give Aaron Rowand a ten year contract."
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    2007-11-19 11:32:47
    101.   Disabled List
    Lowell turns down the extra year (allegedly) to stay with the BoSox... How come we couldn't get that kind of loyalty from Eric Gagne and Adrian Beltre? I guess the World Series title and an incredibly rich owner have something to do with it, but still...
    2007-11-19 11:33:25
    102.   Bob Timmermann
    Kevin Malone would have bid himself up to giving Aaron Rowand a ten-year contract.
    2007-11-19 11:34:40
    103.   CajunDodger
    100
    That joke has a lot of punchlines:

    Kevin Malone is so stupid, he would _______.

    2007-11-19 11:35:37
    104.   CajunDodger
    102
    I bet we would have gotten ARod, though by paying roughly $450 mil for 12 years...
    2007-11-19 11:37:53
    105.   Ken Noe
    FWIW, Rotoworld doubts that NedCo offered Lowell four years. Kevin Malone...no, I'm shuddering so much thinking about him that I can't finish it.
    2007-11-19 11:38:16
    106.   Disabled List
    Kevin Malone is so stupid, he would make multiple trades with the Tampa Bay Devil Rays and NOT acquire either of their two best players.

    Wait... what?

    2007-11-19 11:40:17
    107.   Bob Timmermann
    105
    Doesn't it make you want to go to Malone's car dealership and see what kind of deal you can make?
    2007-11-19 11:40:18
    108.