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Starting Pitchers (5)
$10,000,000 Hiroki Kuroda
*$475,000 Chad Billingsley
*$415,000 Clayton Kershaw
*$405,000 Eric Stults
*$400,000 James McDonald
*Total: $11,695,000

Bullpen (7)
*$2,500,000 Takashi Saito
*$1,300,000 Scott Proctor
*$1,500,000 Jonathan Broxton
*$425,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
*$420,000 Cory Wade
*$410,000 Ramon Troncoso
*$400,000 Scott Elbert
Total: $6,955,000

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Mario Alvarez
Yhency Brazoban
Greg Miller
Justin Orenduff

Starting Lineup (8)
$17,100,000 Andruw Jones
*$3,000,000 Russell Martin
*$2,500,000 Andre Ethier
*$600,000 Matt Kemp
*$600,000 James Loney
*$500,000 Angel Berroa
*$410,000 Blake DeWitt
*$400,000 Tony Abreu
Total: $25,110,000

Bench (5)
$10,000,000 Juan Pierre
*$600,000 Jason Repko
*$410,000 Delwyn Young
*$400,000 Danny Ardoin
*$400,000 Chin-Lung Hu
Total: $11,810,000
Note: Team can buy out Ozuna's 2009 option for $200,000

Also on 40-man roster
A.J. Ellis
Lucas May
Xavier Paul

Disabled List
$12,000,000 Jason Schmidt

Also Paying ...
$2,000,000 Brad Penny (buyout of $9,000,000 option)
$50,000 Gary Bennett (buyout of $900,000 option)
Note: Kansas City is responsible for $500,000 buyout of Angel Berroa's $5,500,000 option for 2009.

Working total: *$68,020,000

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April 25 Game Chat
2008-04-25 18:35
by Jon Weisman
Comments (340)
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2008-04-25 19:17:21
1.   KG16
So, assuming the pitcher hits 9th all season, how many possible combinations are there for Torre to play with in the line up?
2008-04-25 19:20:10
2.   Bob Timmermann
The number will change because there have already been many different players on the roster and then there will be September callups.

The formula would be:
n C r = n! / [(n-r)! r!]

2008-04-25 19:22:17
3.   Bob Timmermann
With 14 players in 8 slots, I believe there are 3003 combinations.
2008-04-25 19:25:52
4.   Sam in SC
i hate to drag this conversation down, but will extra innings ever get our game on?
2008-04-25 19:27:16
5.   Bob Timmermann
I would start rooting for Kevin Youkilis to make his way around the bases.
2008-04-25 19:27:32
6.   Eric Stephen
4
If you have EI on cable, some times they will show the game on an open channel without advertising it (or at least delayed notice) so you may need to flip around.

You know, when the Dodger game actually starts.

2008-04-25 19:28:02
7.   KG16
4 - I'd be happy if FSNHD would get it on, instead of Angels Live... Kevin Kennedy has mentioned not only what he did as a manager, but also what he would do if he was managing today.

I'd kind of like to see Kennedy and Lyons doing play by play on a game... yes, of course that might just be the lack of alcohol talking

2008-04-25 19:28:57
8.   Indiana Jon
Takes me so long to type that I just LATed myself by a long shot in the last thread, but I wanted to share this again here.

I just returned from a trip to Huntsville, AL, where I was able to see the Suns play last night. Unfortunately, I couldn't stick around to see Kershaw pitch tonight, but what a great time I had last night. I got to the game early and was able to get tickets in the first row right behind the dugout, so when the Suns came out I was able to have conversation with a few of them. It helped that there were only a few hundred people in the stands and most of those were on the Huntsville side. I had a quick opportunity to chat with McDonald as he came out to stretch before warming up, but he was either really focused, shy, or just didn't want to talk much. Shortly thereafter, I was able to get Laroche's attention. He came over, offered to sign autographs and talked to me for a couple minutes about his hand and being happy to be back. He says the hand is doing great, and then he even showed it to me, as if that would prove that it was good. He seems like a real nice guy. I tried to get some information on when he might me moving up from the Suns or if he would be heading to LA, but he either didn't know or wasn't going to share it with me, no surprise. After spotting Kershaw during warm ups (wearing number 36 instead of the 22 that my program listed) and failing to get his attention, I couldn't seem to spot him at all in the dugout during the game. I assumed for a while that he was down in the bullpen, which is inaccessible to fans since the stands stop at about 1st base. About the 7th inning, I finally asked another player (Jacobs) where he was tonight, and to my surprise he told me that he was up in the stands behind home plate charting pitches. Well, it might have been the wrong thing to do, interrupting him at his work, but I headed over to the home plate area and spotted him. It wasn't too hard since he was the only large, 20 year old, left handed writing guy in the area. Me and a friend of mine walked down, sat right now to him and were able to have about a ten minute conversation. At first, I just sat down said "Hi Clayton" and then asked if if I was intruding. He invited us to sit and had quite a fun conversation. He seems like a very down to earth and extremely polite kid. He actually thanked us several times for the nice comments about him and for being fans. During the exchange, I was able to find out that he was aware of the "Minotaur" nickname, and he has seen the YouTube video (that one brought quite a laugh when I asked him about it). I was able to sneak in a plug for Dodger Thoughts too and he seemed interested that so many Dodger fans actually were following his every pitch in AA. All in all, it was quite a nice little conversation and one I'll never forget.

2008-04-25 19:29:00
9.   Bob Timmermann
Kennedy and Lyons did play-by-play for one of the Dodgers-Padres games from China.
2008-04-25 19:29:27
10.   KG16
I'm hoping the Lakers don't decide to follow the trend of all these teams that have gone up 2-0 so far in the playoffs.

But I do hope the Spurs follow that pattern

2008-04-25 19:29:33
11.   Eric Stephen
7
I'd kind of like to see Kennedy and Lyons doing play by play on a game

Assuming you mean east of the Rocky Mountains of course.

2008-04-25 19:30:06
12.   KG16
9 - oh yeah, I forgot, definitely the lack of alcohol
2008-04-25 19:30:20
13.   Bob Timmermann
8
That was worth repeating.
2008-04-25 19:31:48
14.   Eric Stephen
8
Thanks for sharing that. That sounds like the most fun possible in Hunstville, Alabama.
2008-04-25 19:33:33
15.   Indiana Jon
14 Actually Huntsville is quite a nice town. Very pretty area, nice weather, great golf and a Minotaur!
2008-04-25 19:35:12
16.   Eric Stephen
4
The Dodger game is alternatively showing on "Game 3" for me (in addition to the scheduled "Game 7", currently preempted by the Rays-BoSox game)
2008-04-25 19:36:01
17.   Indiana Jon
I did forget to mention that I was predicting to him that he would be in LA before June. He wouldn't agree or disagree with me, but the scout (or whoever the guy behind him with the radar gun was) in the row behind him just kept laughing. I took it as a good laugh.
2008-04-25 19:36:11
18.   Sam in SC
8 do I have to read all of that? :(
2008-04-25 19:37:21
19.   Ken Noe
15 Great NASA museum too.
2008-04-25 19:37:33
20.   KG16
17 - maybe he was laughing because he was a scout for the Angels looking to set up a LaRoche-Figgins deal.
2008-04-25 19:37:55
21.   Bob Timmermann
18
Cliff notes version of 8
Indiana Jon goes to Huntsville. Takes to McDonald, finds him shy. Talks to LaRoche, who is gregarious. Finds Kershaw in the stands charting pitches, strikes up conversation.
2008-04-25 19:39:04
22.   Woden325
Ok, I'm fresh from listening to the KC/TOR game. Let's go Rockies!
2008-04-25 19:39:33
23.   Icaros
16

Thanks.

2008-04-25 19:40:49
24.   Bob Timmermann
Battle of old friends in Milwaukee: Gagne pitching to Gonzalez.
2008-04-25 19:42:36
25.   scareduck
22 - and I'm just back from the Cubs game. Old (Angels farmhand) friend Wil Nieves hits his first major league homer, a ninth inning walkoff shot. 5-3 Nationals.
2008-04-25 19:42:54
26.   KG16
It's a shame that Ned isn't the GM for Colorado, we might be able to put together a package for Tulo right now.
2008-04-25 19:43:51
27.   KG16
question: does a sac fly count as a walk off hit?
2008-04-25 19:44:00
28.   scareduck
26 - no, we'd have to be in Tampa for that theory to work.
2008-04-25 19:44:38
29.   scareduck
27 - it's not a hit, but it is a walkoff play. People speak of walkoff singles.
2008-04-25 19:45:07
30.   Woden325
KC seems to be busting this one open 8-4 in the 8th.
Rockies radio had an oddball factoid: for the first run through the lineup, the opposition is hitting .171 against Kuroda.
2008-04-25 19:45:19
31.   D4P
Has there ever been a walk-off reached first on third strike wild pitch...?
2008-04-25 19:45:44
32.   Bob Timmermann
Gonzo walks against Gagne.
2008-04-25 19:45:59
33.   KG16
just flipped over to the Spurs and Suns... Shaq still doesn't go out to his man on the pick and roll, not that it was really a pick and roll with Parker and Duncan, more of a "you stand there and I'll go this way and then pass you the ball"
2008-04-25 19:46:05
34.   scareduck
30 - Vinnie said essentially the same thing.
2008-04-25 19:47:29
35.   Woden325
34 everybody gets the same media guide, apparently.
2008-04-25 19:48:08
36.   Bob Timmermann
The White Sox were rained out. I wonder if dzzrtRatt ever got off the ground.
2008-04-25 19:48:45
37.   Woden325
Andruw Jones is not popular with the home crowd?
2008-04-25 19:49:03
38.   KG16
what's the rule on a foot in the batters box between pitches? It's one of the few remaining differences between the leagues, no?
2008-04-25 19:49:40
39.   D4P
Why not bench Andruw until June, when he'll have it all figured out...?
2008-04-25 19:50:28
40.   Bob Timmermann
38
The only difference between the leagues is the DH now. Since there is just one set of umpires, pretty much everything else is standardized.
2008-04-25 19:51:51
41.   KG16
40 - I thought I read something in the rules recently (not sure why I was looking at them) that mentioned something about a specific rule for the NL as opposed to the AL.

Not that I would expect enforcement of that kind of rule.

2008-04-25 19:52:29
42.   D4P
Randy Johnson is off to an interesting start in San Diego.

Oh: and that Reynolds guy has hit his 7th HR for Arizona.

2008-04-25 19:54:51
43.   scareduck
31 - see 1941 World Series Game 4, though I'm not sure that's quite what you're asking for.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BRO/BRO194110050.shtml

I wrote more about it under the Hugh Casey entry here:

http://6-4-2.blogspot.com/2006/10/todays-birthdays_14.html

2008-04-25 19:55:18
44.   KG16
41 - yeah, Rule 6.02(d):

The following rule shall be in effect for all National Association Leagues:
(1) The batter shall keep at least one foot in the batter's box throughout the batter's time at bat, unless one of the following exceptions applies, in which case the batter may leave the batter's box but not the dirt area surrounding home plate

2008-04-25 19:55:35
45.   Woden325
42 Lord, can anybody beat the D-backs this year. Please. Even the Giants?
2008-04-25 19:56:48
46.   Eric Stephen
I was mentally queued up to gripe about Pierre's arm, but I think that ball was hit slow enough that Holliday would have scored anyway.
2008-04-25 19:58:27
47.   D4P
43
Close, but not quite.
2008-04-25 19:58:42
48.   Woden325
Also 42 : Randy Johnson just got a solid single. Not a good night for Randy Wolf.
2008-04-25 19:58:46
49.   Bob Timmermann
I would have to believe that some game has ended on a combo K-WP.

There have been games that have ended on catcher's interference as well as one where the game ended because the catcher picked up the ball with his mask.

2008-04-25 19:59:43
50.   D4P
49
Has a game ended on a "Duaner Sanchez"...?
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2008-04-25 20:01:16
51.   Bob Timmermann
50
The closest would be the game the Dodgers won where the catcher stopped a pitch with his mask.
2008-04-25 20:03:49
52.   KG16
why run the Hack-a-Shaq when you're up 12 in the first quarter?

One of the announcers: you can't change the rules for lack of skills.

Also, Shaq had two lane violations on his subsequent free throws.

As much as I appreciated him while he was with the Lakers, I'm glad he's gone.

2008-04-25 20:06:37
53.   Woden325
No more no-hitter for the Big Unit.
2008-04-25 20:08:16
54.   scareduck
Yay Loney!
2008-04-25 20:09:23
55.   KG16
I love the story of how Podsednek learned to pronounce his own name
2008-04-25 20:09:44
56.   Gen3Blue
What a sweet left handed swing. It will grow this year.
2008-04-25 20:11:02
57.   KG16
hey, when did Martin go back to the batting gloves?
2008-04-25 20:11:46
58.   Woden325
Joe Torre bobblehead night? Aw, that'd be worth the price of the flight if I'd have known.
2008-04-25 20:13:41
59.   scareduck
Damndest double play I've ever seen. 3-2-5-3? Wowzers.
2008-04-25 20:14:09
60.   Bob Timmermann
The Podsednik-Pierre exacta tonight makes it Popgun Outfielder Night.
2008-04-25 20:14:59
61.   Gen3Blue
Ethier nailed that. Just bad luck. Make hime throw a few more pitches. Come-on Juan.
2008-04-25 20:16:13
62.   scareduck
Apocalypse alert: Pierre walks.
2008-04-25 20:22:56
63.   Bob Timmermann
Hmm, West, Texas is not in West Texas. It's near Waco.
2008-04-25 20:24:09
64.   Gen3Blue
Nomar lets Tulip on?
2008-04-25 20:27:22
65.   KG16
63 - yes, but it is in the jurisdiction of the US District Court for the Western District of Texas.
2008-04-25 20:27:26
66.   Woden325
64 That's Tulo to you, buddy.
2008-04-25 20:27:53
67.   KG16
Tulo missed third.
2008-04-25 20:28:49
68.   Woden325
Wow, the Rockies manufactured 3 runs. I may faint.
2008-04-25 20:30:00
69.   D4P
This start by Kuroda has not been one of quality.
2008-04-25 20:30:13
70.   neuroboy002
Boy, Just looked at the Philadelphia/Pittsburgh box score- too bad Jayson Werth couldn't stay healthy for us. 5 bombs in this season already.
2008-04-25 20:30:34
71.   Gen3Blue
Kuroda can't handle Holiday or Atkins. the Rockies are good this year . We are not. They had to play their young players. We did not.
2008-04-25 20:33:34
72.   D4P
MVP! MVP! MVP!
2008-04-25 20:34:03
73.   Woden325
71 , your lot ain't so bad, but we're all going to be at the mercy of Arizona this year.
2008-04-25 20:35:49
74.   Gen3Blue
Hey Vin guess what. Get someone on base, and the D's will get out as fast as they can.
2008-04-25 20:36:56
75.   dzzrtRatt
now at o'hare. will get home tonight.

so what's the score?

2008-04-25 20:37:25
76.   Bob Timmermann
4-2 Rox.
2008-04-25 20:37:37
77.   KG16
This is my kind of game... six runs in the first 3 innings combined and all kinds of line drives.
2008-04-25 20:37:52
78.   Bob Timmermann
The Padres have Wil Ledezma pitching. I think he's the San Diego equivalent of a white flag.
2008-04-25 20:39:28
79.   KG16
Just put it in play Jeff
2008-04-25 20:41:14
80.   scareduck
A wild one in Chavez Ravine!

Man, if you told me this year that Ubaldo would look like this after last September and October, I would have said you were crazy.

2008-04-25 20:41:15
81.   KG16
now that's what I call a manufactured run, I think Torealba was trying to change the pitch there
2008-04-25 20:42:20
82.   Frip
What's a Dutch uncle and what does he do that American uncles don't?
2008-04-25 20:42:53
83.   Woden325
Ubaldo keeps us on our toes in Colorado. It's nice to see that Tulo's got his mid-season form back, though.
2008-04-25 20:43:08
84.   3upn3down
Of the 22 guys ranked higher than Jeff Kent on the all time doubles list, no one has a better percent of 2B to total hits than Kent. Here are the top 5:

Kent 23.0% (543 doubles)
Luis Gonzalez 22.8% (572)
Tris Speaker 22.5% (792)
Craig Biggio 21.8% (668)
George Brett 21.1% (665)

2008-04-25 20:43:09
85.   Bob Timmermann
Dutch uncles give you pot.
2008-04-25 20:44:19
86.   scareduck
82 - I think it involves using "ij" as a single letter.
2008-04-25 20:45:32
87.   KG16
If Loney tries to steal second here, we're going to have to have an intervention
2008-04-25 20:45:47
88.   scareduck
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_uncle
2008-04-25 20:46:30
89.   Frip
Wiki: "Dutch uncle is a term for a person who issues frank, harsh, and severe comments and criticism to educate, encourage, or admonish someone. Thus, a "Dutch uncle" is a person who is rather the reverse of what is normally thought of as avuncular or uncle-like (which would be indulgent and permissive)."

I can see this. All the Dutch execs we hire are very...err, frank, to people.

(That was funny though Bob, very)

2008-04-25 20:47:04
90.   3upn3down
63 Bob, West, Texas is right off the freeway between Waco and Dallas, and is populated by a very large and proud Czech population. They sell Colache's that are to die for, and on any given weekend, if you pull in to "The Czech Stop" to get collache's, be prepared to wait in a line equivalent to Pink's or Tito's Taco. It is a land mark.
2008-04-25 20:47:06
91.   scareduck
87 - fortunately unnecessary with that single.
2008-04-25 20:49:32
92.   Bob Timmermann
The AL/NL records for wild pitches in an inning are 4 by Walter Johnson, Kevin Gregg, Phil Niekro, and Ryan Madson.

Bert Cummingham of Buffalo of the Players League in 1890 had five. Rick Ankiel had five in one inning in his his Division Series meltdown against the Braves in 2000.

2008-04-25 20:50:03
93.   Woden325
88 I've had to take that role with my nephew. He shows a a distinct inclination to be a {rule-1}-head.
2008-04-25 20:51:03
94.   scareduck
The WPA graphs of this game looks like the Rockies:

http://www.fangraphs.com/livewins.aspx?gameid=280425119

2008-04-25 20:51:44
95.   KG16
When it rains, it pours
2008-04-25 20:51:54
96.   Frip
If Hurdle doesn't take this kid out soon I'm going to start rooting for the kid to do better out of sheer sympathy.
2008-04-25 20:52:10
97.   Woden325
Thanks Baldo. Now hit the showers. Phooey.
2008-04-25 20:52:14
98.   LogikReader
yay?
2008-04-25 20:53:05
99.   LeeLacy
I've cursed Slappy's name a lot over the last couple of years. But I've got to give him credit when credit is due. Nice job with the bases juiced.
2008-04-25 20:54:43
100.   Gen3Blue
I don't know how they did it, but the Rockies have turned this game into something they can beat us at. I don't know how---but I am not happy.
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2008-04-25 20:56:21
101.   Woden325
4u at first base. That's different.
2008-04-25 20:56:35
102.   scareduck
100 - Huh? Didn't you hear Vinny talk about how the Rockies have blown more leads this year than anybody else or some such?
2008-04-25 20:57:37
103.   Woden325
102 I'm not listening to Vin, but the Rockies' bullpen is anything but bullet-proof. Unfortunately.
2008-04-25 20:59:06
104.   Bob Timmermann
The Rockies pen is bulletproof is they're facing the Padres.
2008-04-25 20:59:32
105.   Bob Timmermann
The second is should be "if"
2008-04-25 20:59:35
106.   scareduck
This would be a good time for a long, long, long fly ball.
2008-04-25 20:59:42
107.   LeeLacy
This would sure be a convenient time for Andruw to break out of his slump.

I can only imagine how loud the boos will be in Dodger Stadium if he fails.

2008-04-25 21:00:22
108.   scareduck
If the Rocks' bullpen is pullet-proof, they stand a good chance of getting Jones out.
2008-04-25 21:01:39
109.   scareduck
Nasty foul off his shin there.
2008-04-25 21:01:43
110.   LeeLacy
According to GameDay, Jones just swung at a pitch that almost hit him.
2008-04-25 21:01:44
111.   Woden325
104 Only another fourteen days 'til they can be bullet-proof again... Sigh.
2008-04-25 21:02:07
112.   scareduck
Yes, they're yelling "Druw!" again.
2008-04-25 21:03:08
113.   JoeyP
I got Jayson Nix on a fantasy team. Is it too early to give up on him?
2008-04-25 21:03:43
114.   LeeLacy
For anyone who's watching the game, what's the reaction of Dodger fans right now? Are they reacting as if Michael Cooper was just shown on the JumboTron?
2008-04-25 21:04:22
115.   scooplew
Why is this guy batting second? Why is this guy batting? Why is this guy? Why is this? Why?
2008-04-25 21:04:45
116.   scareduck
"And now we stagger into the fourth..." Oh, yes.
2008-04-25 21:04:48
117.   Dave G
I was at the game last night and the only boos louder than those for Andruw were those for the umps after they threw out Kent and Torre (which by the way were almost Bondsian in their vigor)
2008-04-25 21:05:30
118.   Woden325
Yorvie! That's more like it!
2008-04-25 21:05:35
119.   scareduck
114 - see 112 .
2008-04-25 21:06:33
120.   scareduck
118 - shouldn't you be over at Purple Row?
2008-04-25 21:08:03
121.   dzzrtRatt
Ned's thinking, hey I missed on Jones, but I'm looking good on Pierre!

me, I'm sad for Andruw. sheez.

2008-04-25 21:08:53
122.   Bob Timmermann
120
Personally, I enjoy the other team's perspective.

To paraphrase Thomas Jefferson's 1801 Inaugural Address "We are all Dodgers fans, we are all Rockies fans."

2008-04-25 21:09:14
123.   Woden325
120 I'd be at Bad Altitude, but I'd be talking to myself. I like it here, even if all you guys are rooting for the wrong team.
2008-04-25 21:12:08
124.   Bob Timmermann
123
But there are a few questions you have to answer before you are truly accepted:
1) What is your opinion of Danica McKellar?
2) Can you drop in catch phrases from TV shows?
2008-04-25 21:12:18
125.   Woden325
That's the stuff, Scott.
2008-04-25 21:12:39
126.   JoeyP
Never think Podsednik has that type of at-bat in him.
2008-04-25 21:12:58
127.   Dave G
I think we're paying him $18m to make that catch. Funny part is that 3 or 4 years ago he makes it easily.
Wow, what a play by Furcal though.
2008-04-25 21:13:14
128.   Andrew Shimmin
Furry is magic.
2008-04-25 21:13:20
129.   Woden325
124
1) I like the cut of her jib.
2) What'chu talking about Willis?
2008-04-25 21:13:46
130.   Bob Timmermann
Kuroda would have never gotten a throw like that from a shortstop in Japan. That play by Furcal only shows up on this side of the pond.
2008-04-25 21:14:04
131.   fordprefect
124
real or imaginary?

I'm thinking fred willard here: "wh' hoppen?"

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