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Pinch Me, I'm Dreaming
2008-01-31 09:03
by Jon Weisman

Most pinch-hitting appearances in Los Angeles Dodger history: Dave Hansen tops the list with 539. Scroll down enough, though, and you'll see Fernando Valenzuela with 15!

And for good measure ... most times reaching base as a pinch-hitter in Los Angeles Dodger history.

Update: Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus will host a chat about the site's newly released Top 100 Prospects list at 10 a.m.

On the list from the Dodgers:

5) Clayton Kershaw
14) Andy LaRoche
32) Chin-Lung Hu
66) Scott Elbert

That's it.

Update 2: Keith Law of ESPN.com also came out with a Top 100 list today. From the Dodgers:

6) Clayton Kershaw
25) Andy LaRoche
50) Chin-Lung Hu
52) James McDonald
86) Chris Withrow

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Comments (464)
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2008-01-31 09:12:55
1.   CajunDodger
From last post:

ToyCannon, I tried to post this on TrueBlue, but my computer stinks. I am interested in three tix. Email?

Where is the best place to get BABIP #s?

2008-01-31 09:15:40
2.   old dodger fan
Drysdale had 25.
2008-01-31 09:18:12
3.   old dodger fan
1 Maybe it's time to scrap the TRS-80.
2008-01-31 09:20:07
4.   CajunDodger
3
Ahhh, if it were only that easy. It's a new work computer that absolutely hates me. It's like an ex-girlfriend imaged it for me...
2008-01-31 09:23:53
5.   Jon Weisman
3 - You're confusing him with CanuckDodger, I think.
2008-01-31 09:24:44
6.   ToyCannon
Speaking of Canuck.
BP put out their top 100 prospects today. Dodgers who made the cut:
Kershaw(5)
LaRoche(14)
Chin-Lung Hu(32)
Elbert(66)Surprise
McDonald does not make the list. He is really flying under the radar.
No Meloan is the biggest surprise.
2008-01-31 09:25:28
7.   kngoworld
Just read on mlb trade rumors that Gonzo signed with the Marlins. They claim that leaves us with a "sandwich pick" in the draft for his type B status. Not bad for losing something we did not want.
2008-01-31 09:26:14
8.   berkowit28
There are links for each player to their BR page, but the individual BR pages do not list pinch hits. Where does that come from?

Marlon Anderson is listed as having only 8 times reached base as a pinch hitter. (Follow Jon's second link above.) Does that sound right to you? In 2006 alone, he hit 7 home runs. Do home runs not count as "reaching base"? (Pretty silly, if true.) Did he really hit most of those home runs, and much else, as a starting position player? Doesn't sound right to me.

2008-01-31 09:27:23
9.   Humma Kavula
7 Did the Dodgers offer Gonzalez arbitration?
2008-01-31 09:27:32
10.   ToyCannon
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2008-01-31 09:28:29
11.   CajunDodger
5
Cajuns and Canucks can often be confused in a pack of otherwise different Dodger commenters. Cajuns just originated in Nova Scotia, while Canucks come from a place a couple hundred miles westward.
2008-01-31 09:28:31
12.   Humma Kavula
8 Sounds right to me. Anderson got a lot of starts in LF as Ethier started to fade down the stretch.
2008-01-31 09:28:54
13.   silverwidow
Did the Dodgers offer Gonzalez arbitration?

No.

2008-01-31 09:29:04
14.   ToyCannon
8
Yes, he started most of the games in Sept instead of Ethier. He was traded for to be a pinch hitter but we all know he became so much more. If only Mark Sweeney had the same magic.
2008-01-31 09:29:32
15.   Humma Kavula
13 I didn't think so. No arbitration, no draft picks -- is that right? Or am I confused?
2008-01-31 09:29:37
16.   Jacob L
8 I think that's right. Merlin pretty much took over right field from a badly slumping Ethier down the stretch in 06.

10 Toy did I miss something? Are you offering to get tix for the 3/29 game for folks? If so, I want in.

2008-01-31 09:29:55
17.   old dodger fan
7 I thought you only got a pick if you offer the player arbitration and he turn you down. Am I wrong again?
2008-01-31 09:30:50
18.   kngoworld
15 17 Thats the impression I was under, but I read it on the internet, so it must be true.
2008-01-31 09:31:01
19.   silverwidow
No arb, no picks.
2008-01-31 09:31:54
20.   ToyCannon
Names I didn't expect to see in the top 10 of your list.
Duke Snider
Chris Gywnn - he got on base?
2008-01-31 09:32:01
21.   CajunDodger
10
Will do...
2008-01-31 09:36:15
22.   ToyCannon
16
http://www.truebluela.com/story/2008/1/30/13287/8853
2008-01-31 09:37:04
23.   kngoworld
This article from USA Today claims the Dodgers declined to offer Gonzo arb.

http://tinyurl.com/2p3l9f

Darn MLB Trade Rumors for bringing me some false joy in relation to Luis Gonzalez.

Sorry community for posting something without double fact checking.

2008-01-31 09:38:27
24.   fanerman
23 Getting rid of Gonzo for good is victory enough.
2008-01-31 09:39:47
25.   natepurcell
Did Goldstein come out with his Dodgers top 11 yet?
2008-01-31 09:45:52
26.   ToyCannon
25
No, it was due yesterday but I guess the Twin trade shot it down, now he's doing the top 100 chat in about 12 minutes. I was hoping he'd have us done before the chat.
You surprised that Meloan was not on the list?
2008-01-31 09:47:45
27.   natepurcell
26

Not really. I'm more surprised McDonald wasn't though.

I think Neftali Feliz at 30 is ridiculous and Gerrado Parra at 64 isn't so hot either.

2008-01-31 09:48:42
28.   old dodger fan
The list puts Carlos Gomes at #65 and Deolis Guerra at #79. It lists them both as Twins.
2008-01-31 09:48:51
29.   cargill06
has laroche always been ahead of headley? i always remember hearing more about chase
2008-01-31 09:49:55
30.   Andrew Shimmin
1- I use:

http://www.fangraphs.com

for BABIP numbers.

2008-01-31 09:50:36
31.   natepurcell
29

Chase broke out this year. Laroche has performed for numerous years.

2008-01-31 09:55:05
32.   ToyCannon
29
Yes

Chase can only dream about Andy's power.

2008-01-31 09:55:56
33.   ToyCannon
Or to put it another way:
Mr. Headley can only chase the dream that is Andy's power.
2008-01-31 09:59:41
34.   old dodger fan
How have the "BP Top 100" fared in the past? Can I access the 2003 or 2004 list without subscribing?
2008-01-31 10:01:39
35.   silverwidow
Jacob McGee at 40 is too low. He's not that far away from Kershaw in terms of top LHP in the minors.
2008-01-31 10:03:51
36.   Andrew Shimmin
Here's last year's. Can't tell if it's free, or not. Looks like it was the first one.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=5892

2008-01-31 10:05:42
37.   underdog
33 That's "Hedy!" No, wait, Headley.

--
I'd always thought Lenny Harris was higher on the Dodgers' PH appearance and on base list than he actually is. Dave Hansen was the closest to "money" of any Dodger PH I've ever seen.

2008-01-31 10:06:32
38.   ToyCannon
I've seen varied reports on McGee being able to handle being a starter. As of now he just rears back and throws ala Zumaya. The McGee/Davis debate is great. I'm going with Davis and it will be curious to see why he put McGee 40th. I do agree that it is to low.

Keith Law loves Truinfel but no one else seems to. I'm betting that Law is right and that he will prove it this year.

2008-01-31 10:08:01
39.   Andrew Shimmin
Ah. Reading the first sentence (just the first seven words suffice), it's clear that 2007 was the first list. At least it was Goldstein's first list.
2008-01-31 10:10:32
40.   bhsportsguy
36 The list is free, any analysis is subscribser only.

34 You can do a search on the site, it will come up with articles, some free, some not, the 2001-2003 list are there as is some articles about 2004, Kevin Goldstein joined BP in 2006/2007, that is when they expanded the list to 100.

Ahh, 2003, its arguable that when under Honorable Mention you have David Wright, Prince Fielder and James Loney, you realize its a lot of speculation. An old friend was the No. 7 prospect according to BP that year.

2008-01-31 10:11:15
41.   bhsportsguy
39 Goldstein was previously at Baseball America prior to moving to BP.
2008-01-31 10:17:31
42.   Jon Weisman
I'm a little torn about "Lost" chat tonight. I'd like to drive people over to Season Pass at Variety, to try to build the community over there, but I realize not everyone wants to go there. For those who will want to talk "Lost" tonight, what are your thoughts?
2008-01-31 10:18:41
43.   fanerman
42 Are you talking about post-game or in-game?
2008-01-31 10:19:55
44.   Jon Weisman
Coincidence that Keith Law came out with his Top 100 list today also?

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&id=3221365

2008-01-31 10:21:42
45.   Jon Weisman
43 - Good question. I was thinking of having in-game at Screen Jam, then postgame at Season Pass. But wouldn't that be too awkward?

Maybe the answer is to have an open chat thread at Season Pass, then a postgame chat thread at Season Pass as well.

I'm sure I'm over thinking this - the simplest thing would be to keep everything at Screen Jam - but it behooves me to get people over to the other site.

2008-01-31 10:22:54
46.   Xeifrank
42. What's Lost chat?
vr, Xei
2008-01-31 10:24:28
47.   Ken Noe
Yet another reason to question Rosenthal's competency: "Gonzalez, 40, is expected to fill a combination of roles, including left field and first base, and serve as a mentor for the Marlins' younger players." Pity the guppies.
2008-01-31 10:24:48
48.   CajunDodger
30
Thanks

It sure would have been nice to have a sandwich pick for LuGo. That way we could have had an outfielder in the top 40 or so picks. I love Logan, but it sure would be nice to see our first pick be a position player, especially an outfielder with a high ceiling.

2008-01-31 10:28:34
49.   bhsportsguy
44 For those without subscriptions:
6. Clayton Kershaw
25. Andy LaRoche
50. Chin-Lung Hu
52. James McDonald
84. Chris Withrow

Reading between and not so between the lines, Law thinks the Dodgers should take it slower with Kershaw (pitch a full season at AA and watch his IP), give Andy the job on day 1 of ST, if Hu hits at all, he could become an All-Star caliber SS because he can really pick it, McDonald could be a real surprise especially if he can get a tighter rotation on his curve ball, and Withrow could be a Logan White legacy because of his success with Chad and Clayton (I think Elbert fits here too but Law thinks the Dodgers rushed Scott, especially in 2006)

2008-01-31 10:31:42
50.   bhsportsguy
48 One thing you have to remember, even more rare than a number one starter in the draft is to find a projectionable outfielder because the combination of speed, power and the figuring out if he can hit advanced pitching is just really hard.

I do think that is why White has tended to pick pitchers in the first round (outside of Loney, that is what he has done, Chad, Scott Elbert, Clayton Kershaw and Chris Withrow) And he has been really successful in doing that.

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2008-01-31 10:32:51
51.   underdog
Hey, speaking of which, I will be co-hosting an Oscar night chat, with guest film bloggers contributing snarky comments and lots of other fun folks. Plus polls, trivia, some funny pictures. I will alert y'all again when it gets closer. (Assuming there IS an Oscars this year.)

But I was thinking of doing a trial chat soon to try and test the software out. It's really easy and fun "live blogging" interface. Anyone have interest in jumping into a Super Bowl chat on Sunday? Might keep the BT servers from overloading. ;-) I'd suggest it for "Lost" tonight instead but don't want to steal people away from Variety and/or SJ.

2008-01-31 10:33:02
52.   fanerman
46 Lost is a fictional TV show about the survivors of a plane crash who are stranded on a mysterious tropical island where weird things happen.
2008-01-31 10:34:13
53.   D4P
52
Do they make radios out of coconuts?
2008-01-31 10:35:49
54.   fanerman
50 It seems like a good idea to stick with what he's good at. Also, if I had to choose between finding pitching or hitting through free agency, it seems like hitting is safer and/or easier, given the injury risk of pitchersg.
2008-01-31 10:36:46
55.   fanerman
53 Their main source of radios is from suspicious parachutists who also crash land on the island and may or may not be trying to rescue them.
2008-01-31 10:37:08
56.   ToyCannon
Ouch

Paolo (Tempe, AZ): Keith, what do you make of the Dodgers moving Meloan back to starting pitching? How do you think he'll pan out?

Keith Law: (1:34 PM ET ) I haven't heard that they are doing that, and if so, they might as well as him to stick his arm in the wood-chipper. The injury risk is the same either way.

2008-01-31 10:39:33
57.   underdog
56 - Why does he say that about Meloan and not any of the other pitchers going back to starting? Is Meloan particularly brittle?
2008-01-31 10:41:50
58.   ToyCannon
56
He doesn't post to the public and then send me a private email explaining why he said it.
2008-01-31 10:43:20
59.   ToyCannon
Wow that came across snarky. My apologies.
2008-01-31 10:44:26
60.   fanerman
58 Really? Someone's getting shafted. Sigh, I'll have my assistant speed dial him and find out what he really meant.
2008-01-31 10:47:08
61.   kngoworld
45
Im on the west coast and many others here are on the west coast, but there are people in other time zones. How does that affect the in-game chat thread?
2008-01-31 10:47:47
62.   bhsportsguy
58 Are you saying that you got a private e-mail from Keith Law explaining his response about Meloan?
2008-01-31 10:48:09
63.   Jon Weisman
61 - All my TV chat is based on West Coast airing times. So you can't talk about something that hasn't aired on the West Coast.
2008-01-31 10:49:28
64.   Xeifrank
52. Ok, thanks! Is someone getting voted off the island tonight? vr, Xei
2008-01-31 10:50:45
65.   ToyCannon
62
You're kidding right?
2008-01-31 10:52:13
66.   kngoworld
63 That is what I figured. I have no problem with moving around a little from site to site to chat about the episode. Just as long as you let us know where to be and at what time. I will bring the salsa, freshly made with ripe tomatoes.
2008-01-31 10:52:17
67.   underdog
58 I was just wondering aloud anyway. Or being slightly facetious. It just seemed like an odd comment for Law to make. But maybe there's something about Meloan I don't know.
2008-01-31 10:54:28
68.   bhsportsguy
65 Okay, now I get it. Although I have had some private email responses from BP guys in the past so its no beyond the realm of possibility.
2008-01-31 10:54:50
69.   ToyCannon
Law is a jerk when he makes negative comments about Dodger prospects that I like. He's awesome when he makes optimistic comments about Dodger prospects that I like. I'm still very shallow.
2008-01-31 10:56:00
70.   bhsportsguy
I will say this too, similar to what happened to Sickels when he did his Red Sox rankings, Red Sox nation gets after those who dare to not see their guys in the same light they do.
2008-01-31 10:57:48
71.   ToyCannon
Teaser on Withrow from Law:
"Keep an eye on this one. Withrow pitched all spring with an average fastball (88-91 mph) and a fringe-average curve with good depth but an early break, but his velocity rose after his move to pro ball. He has some projection left and has a great delivery with a quick, explosive move toward the plate. And after the success of Chad Billingsley and Clayton Kershaw to date, the Dodgers get a little extra credit on first-round arms."
2008-01-31 11:02:38
72.   CajunDodger
71
I have seen videos of him, and his delivery seems like a guy that could pitch 200 innings plus for a really long time. I see him being for the Dodgers what Rich Hill has become for the Cubs.

Solid #2-3 that seems like he could pitch three times per week.

2008-01-31 11:04:48
73.   ToyCannon
Plus the fact that Luke Hochevar did not make Law's list also puts a smile on my face. At this point the great mistake as I called it, is turning out better and better.
2008-01-31 11:08:46
74.   fanerman
64 Tonight is the 4th season premiere. It's not a reality TV show, so people don't get "voted off" (like in the TV show "Survivor"). However, many main characters have died throughout the show's run.

The basic plot is supposedly planned out for the show's entire run, so the show plays like a big mini-series/movie. The story generally moves forward as the characters get closer to leaving the island and discovering all of the island's secrets, but the show also has the habit of bringing up more questions than it answers. Viewers either get more intrigued to keep watching and more annoyed by the never-ending mystery.

2008-01-31 11:13:54
75.   cargill06
56 have you seen his delievery? my arm hurts to watch it.
2008-01-31 11:14:11
76.   Jon Weisman
From ITD: "And finally, two more non-roster invites are on board and both are from our minor league system. A.J. Ellis will be back in big league camp this spring, as will fellow catcher Gabriel Gutierrez."
2008-01-31 11:15:17
77.   bhsportsguy
76 Makes sense since Russell can't catch every pitcher in camp.
2008-01-31 11:17:16
78.   Jon Weisman
greg (toronto): If you look into your crystalball, who do you think will be your top prospect for next year?

Kevin Goldstein: Clayton Kershaw.

2008-01-31 11:19:01
79.   Jon Weisman
James McDonald (LA): What is it about my skills that kept me off your list?

Kevin Goldstein: You're on the spreadsheet, if that's any consolation. I think the velo is what kept you off.

2008-01-31 11:19:31
80.   CajunDodger
75
I have been in and out, so I'm not sure if this has been discussed, but why are the Dodgers converting him. I know that it would be easy to just stick him back in the pen if Saito retired and promote him as Brox's set-up guy, but why take the risk that 120-150 IP will bring for a guy with a funky delivery?
2008-01-31 11:19:48
81.   overkill94
75 I'm with cargill on this one, I just don't see how Meloan could repeat that delivery for 6 IP+ without tearing up his elbow pretty quickly. I realize he was able to do it in college (and before that I'm sure), but I think that's the reason he got injured in college and dropped in the draft.

It's a different case than Broxton, who does have a smooth enough delivery to be a starter, but doesn't quite have the pitch repertoire or stamina to pull it off successfully.

2008-01-31 11:21:25
82.   overkill94
Just in case anyone was privately scowling that we didn't offer LuGo arbitration (and thus an extra draft pick), remember that a player can only get something like a 40% pay cut so if he had accepted the offer we'd be on the hook for at least $4M.
2008-01-31 11:23:27
83.   cargill06
80 i haven't heard anything about him being converted. someone let me know of a link or a source to confirm this
2008-01-31 11:23:52
84.   Jon Weisman
81 - Wouldn't the Dodgers be able to see the same problem you see?
2008-01-31 11:23:58
85.   Humma Kavula
82 I don't think anyone's scowling about that. Just clearing up the point: there is no draft pick to be had from losing Gonzalez.

There is much else to be gained from losing him, though.

2008-01-31 11:24:47
86.   underdog
80 I have been wondering that, too, even before hearing about his potential arm issues. Especially with Kershaw and McDonald coming up, and Withrow after them. I mean, I guess you can never have too much starting pitching depth, and maybe there's something about Meloan's make-up, but he seems like he'd be a great reliever with some seasoning.
2008-01-31 11:25:08
87.   Jon Weisman
83 - http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/897243.html
2008-01-31 11:26:28
88.   Bob Timmermann
69
This is a corollary to my Joakim Noah Theory.
2008-01-31 11:27:57
89.   CajunDodger
86
The Dodgers are kind of unpredictable on this. They rushed Elbert just a bit, but were very careful with Bills (I still think his initial move to the pen last year was about limiting innings and hoping that Tomko/Hendrickson/Kuo could work for half a season).

I just hope they're right in what they are doing.

2008-01-31 11:28:39
90.   Jon Weisman
If you think someone can start, that's inherently more valuable than a reliever. Relievers are always easier to find. The only reason not to have Meloan start would be if he couldn't do the job - which is what seems to have been determined about Broxton, though I never was too sure.

That being said, I was surprised the Dodgers are converting Meloan. They clearly see big potential in him ... or maybe it's just an experiment ... or maybe it's just a hedge against a swath of injuries in March/April.

2008-01-31 11:31:03
91.   delias man
Law basically said in a chat about 3 weeks ago that he is down on Hochevar. Law projected him as a #4 starter. I was not surprised he is not on Law's list.
2008-01-31 11:32:14
92.   cargill06
i like how gurnick sites jason schmidt not returning his calls as that means his arm recovery is not going well.

could it just be that schmidt knows he is going to answer thousands of questions about it next month and just wants to relax in his last few weeks of the off season?

2008-01-31 11:37:13
93.   regfairfield
82 20%, Gonzalez would have to be delusional to not take an arbitration offer.

Andy Marte was BP's number one prospect a few years ago, but since Goldstein's come on they've been much better. Baseball America rarely flubbs the top prospect, the only real duds they've had are Ben Grieve and Todd Van Poppel. They couldn't have known Brein Taylor would get injured in a bar fight.

2008-01-31 11:38:58
94.   bhsportsguy
Law was asked where Kemp would be on his list, he said very very high.

{92] Since we have heard from both Ned and Stan Conte that Jason Schmidt is on track, I don't think what Ken Gurnick says in an article should be viewed with any concern.

That said, obviously Schmidt's recovery along with Andy v. Nomar will be something to watch in this tri-Spring Training (Vero, China, Phoenix)

2008-01-31 11:42:01
95.   underdog
92 I think that's a fair point. But, as BH says, don't take Gurnick too seriously, either. I see no reason to think the worst about Schmidt, and also see no reason to expect the best immediately either. This sure will be an interesting Spring.
2008-01-31 11:43:09
96.   regfairfield
In 2001 BP would have had Sean Burroughs as the top prospect if Ichiro wasn't in the league, and the next guy was someone named Ryan Anderson.
2008-01-31 11:45:21
97.   Eric Stephen
96
Ryan Anderson, the Little Unit (or Space Needle or whatever his nickname was).

Regarding Law's Meloan quote, I'm not sure I follow. If the injury risk is the same between starting and relieving, why would making Meloan a starter be throwing his arm in a wood chipper?

2008-01-31 11:47:02
98.   overkill94
84 I hope they're careful with him and don't just see him as an expendable part that can be tossed away if they ruin him. I'm just saying that my amateur eye does not see him as being able to handle 180 IP with his delivery.
2008-01-31 11:48:14
99.   Xeifrank
96. I have a stack of Ryan Anderson rookie baseball cards that are bicycle spoke material now. :)
vr, Xei
2008-01-31 11:49:53
100.   regfairfield
Wow, this looks particulary bad in retrospect.

It's hard to not find fault with Baseball America, who somehow deemed 63 other minor leaguers to be more valuable than Jeremy Giambi. That's like calling Ted Williams the 64th-best player of all time. Yes, Giambi is slow and has no defensive value. But to suggest that one of the two or three best hitting prospects in the minor leagues is only the 64th-best overall prospect is to suggest that offense represents an absurdly small fraction of a position player's overall contribution.

Yes, they actually compared Jeremy Giambi to Ted Williams.

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2008-01-31 11:50:21
101.   bhsportsguy
93 But they did rank Marte very high when he was eligible, just not No. 1.

Baseball America's No. 1 Prospects since 1995

1995 - Alex Rodriquez
1996 - Andruw Jones
1997 - Andruw Jones
1998 - Ben Grieve
1999 - J.D. Drew
2000 - Rick Ankiel
2001 - Josh Hamilton
2002 - Josh Beckett
2003 - Mark Teixeira
2004 - Joe Mauer
2005 - Joe Mauer
2006 - Delmon Young
2007 - Daisuke Matsuzaka (Alex Gordon was No. 2)
2008 - My hunch is Jay Bruce.

I chose 1995 since it was A-Rod and its a good starting point.

2008-01-31 11:51:35