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Reprise: 2008 Opening Day Locks
2008-02-06 21:41
by Jon Weisman

I kinda short-circuited my thread from earlier today on the established members of the Dodger roster, so I'm bringing it back to the top.

But I'll add some small bits of news, courtesy of Ken Gurnick at MLB.com:

Trainer Stan Conte reported from Arizona that he watched pitcher Jason Schmidt throw off a mound. Conte said Schmidt continues his recovery from serious shoulder surgery, and Conte was pleased with what he saw. Schmidt is expected to be throwing off a mound in Spring Training.

The Dodgers also announced the signing of Jason Johnson to a Minor League contract. Johnson, 34, has a career Major League record of 55-98 and pitched in Japan last year.

Comments (244)
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2008-02-06 21:59:25
1.   Eric Stephen
Ethier seems to be saying the right things, for the most part. From the Gurnick article linked above:

"I just want to be part of a winner," he said. "If [rotating] leads to winning, fine. Last year, we didn't better ourselves with a situation like that. If we're winning and make a run to the playoffs, so be it. The thing that best helps us is what we should do."

2008-02-06 22:03:47
2.   Lexinthedena
1- Dre and the other young players must be seething over the possibility of Juan Pierre starting over him....I guess that's why they brought in Torre...
2008-02-06 22:04:52
3.   Brian Y
The big news there is the signing of Jason Johnson. He had a whopping 3.12 ERA for the Reds at the tail end of 2006! If you don't look at his ERA for his career or even the other teams he pitched for in 2006 then it looks might good!
2008-02-06 22:05:48
4.   Daniel Zappala
My worry, after reading Jon's piece: the starting pitching. If Lowe and Penny go downhill (e.g. continue their lower-quality second halves), and Kuroda is not anything special, then our staff comes down to Billingsley as ace and a bunch of decent pitchers. The rotation could look very ordinary.

I would be happy if someone wants to reassure me.

2008-02-06 22:06:11
5.   Bob Timmermann
Johnson pitched in just seven games for Seibu last year. He was 1-4 with a 4.35 ERA.
2008-02-06 22:08:28
6.   Brian Y
4. Don't worry Daniel. We still have Kershaw, McDonald, Elbert, Kuo, Stults, Orenduff, and Miller. It can't be all bad.
2008-02-06 22:15:59
7.   underdog
6 And Jason Johnson!
2008-02-06 22:16:21
8.   Lexinthedena
From Ken Gurnic...the last line is LAUGHABLE!...HA!

"Who was the greatest free-agent signing in recent Dodgers history?

Kirk Gibson is one obvious answer, although as great as 1988 was, he had only one productive Dodgers season.

Hideo Nomo would be a candidate, not only for his performance but for blazing the trail for other Japanese stars to follow. Maybe Todd Worrell, a two-time Dodgers All-Star."

2008-02-06 22:27:32
9.   Brian Y
7. LOL, yeah I forgot to add Tanyon Sturtze and Jason Johnson to that list. We can be saved if Penny and Lowe falter afterall!!! I think I'm going to start the Jason Johnson fan club soon.
2008-02-06 22:53:42
10.   Bob Timmermann
ジョンソン ジェイソン マイケル!
2008-02-06 22:59:24
11.   Eric Stephen
10
Now THAT'S a tough weekly puzzle!
2008-02-06 23:36:58
12.   El Lay Dave
Apparently the Dodgers were falling short in both their Jason and Tall Guy quotas. Some of his numbers are Hendricksoneque (WHIP, ERA+, K/9, K/BB, HR/IP, ...)
2008-02-06 23:49:56
13.   silverwidow
1 Read between the lines in that Ethier story; I don't think he's happy with the current situation. The stuff about "they control my rights" and "they have the power" have disgruntled player written all over it.
2008-02-06 23:58:36
14.   Xeifrank
Arizona named Lyons as their closer today, with Pena setting up in the 8th inning and Qualls the 7th inning guy (SIG).
vr, Xei
2008-02-07 00:10:13
15.   Xeifrank
Happy New Year to everyone, as we usher in the Year of the Rat.
Xin Nian Kuai le

vr, Xei

2008-02-07 00:14:08
16.   Bob Timmermann
"Year of the Rat" was the B-side on Al Stewart's only hit.
2008-02-07 00:22:46
17.   Xeifrank
16. Did he like to eat dumplings?
vr, Xei
2008-02-07 00:43:39
18.   trainwreck
Dillinger on Conan!!
2008-02-07 00:44:23
19.   trainwreck
Sorry, I was excited.
2008-02-07 00:45:40
20.   overkill94
18 Hmmm, I might have to stay up for that. They must be insane in a live setting.
2008-02-07 00:46:40
21.   overkill94
16 and also the name of one of the only semi-decent songs on Badly Drawn Boy's hideous mis-step "1+1=1" which is one of the only albums I've ever bought without hearing anything about
2008-02-07 01:19:18
22.   Louis in SF
Don't know if it has been mentioned yet, but Torre was interviewed on the Dan Patrick show today. Torre stating the obvious said that the Dodger outfield was overloaded. Patrick didn't press him nor did Torre add anything else. He also said he was excited about Matt Kemp and felt his talent was untapped.

After reading the Ethier story, and listening to Torre my guess is the Dodgers will try and rotate the outfield and probably make a trade at the deadline at that person will probably be Ethier.

Does anyone still need a CF?

2008-02-07 01:32:45
23.   overkill94
18 This is a much different DEP than the one I know from Calculating Infinity. Gone are the insanely complicated riffs and rhythm structures and shouted vocals; in is a somewhat poppy vocal delivery, barely idiosyncratic rhythms, and dare I say a mainstream sound. Is this how much they've changed since 1999?
2008-02-07 01:45:55
24.   trainwreck
23
Yeah, this is basically an entirely different group of people from Calculating Infinity. This album has way more poppy vocal delivery as you describe it, but I still like it.

That is the most mainstream song on the album and the most mainstream song Dillinger has ever done. A lot of people do not like the way the band went, with the Patton LP and the last two albums, but I like it. There are still some old school type Dillinger songs on the albums.

2008-02-07 01:47:13
25.   trainwreck
Patton introduced them to using a lot more sampling and audio effects and melodic singing. They basically said they had to evolve and not just play the same style forever, which I agree with.
2008-02-07 01:52:08
26.   trainwreck
They are moving to a new record label for the next album, so hopefully they do not turn into Atreyu or something super mainstream.

Or else, I will be one sad panda.

2008-02-07 04:56:23
27.   D4P
I might be late to the party, but is this Pedro Martinez cock-fighting story new or old?

http://tinyurl.com/34x3na

2008-02-07 05:30:45
28.   D4P
Saw the video for Whitesnake's "Is This Love" this morning. Great song. Hard to believe Tawny Kitaen was once a sex symbol.
2008-02-07 05:40:13
29.   D4P
Jody Watley's "Looking for a New Love". Nice.
2008-02-07 06:46:14
30.   Penarol1916
28. I don't think that I saw a Whitesnake video outside of "Here I Go Again on My Own," but I did watch Bachelor Party recently and have no problem believing that Tawny Kitaen was once a sex symbol, lord knows she can't act.
2008-02-07 06:46:24
31.   Jon Weisman
13 - That was my reaction.
2008-02-07 07:03:02
32.   Ken Noe
Help us Obi-Wan Joe Torre, you're Ethier's only hope.
2008-02-07 07:21:44
33.   Ricardo
Ethier is in the same situation that Loney was last year.The guy always played hard and well for the Dodgers, he doesn´t deserve that.
2008-02-07 07:45:36
34.   Ken Noe
33 The Loney comparison is an apt one, I just hope that Ethier follows the same trajectory this year and wins the job. It's all up to Torre now.
2008-02-07 07:49:52
35.   Andrew Shimmin
In deference to rule five, this is passed along without comment:

Sheriff's Uniform Waiting for Shaq
http://www.ktar.com/?nid=6&sid=725955

2008-02-07 07:57:24
36.   underdog
The quotes from Ethier in today's LA Times piece didn't make him seem too disgruntled, only that he wants to start and will play hard. But of course he must have a "here we go again" feeling, and it's clear who the best left fielder is even before "competition" starts. So, is there any team left who needs a speedy centerfielder? Maybe a pre-deadline trade (July) is a more likely possibility for Juan Pierre.

--

Meanwhile, doing my taxes I decided to check the deduction box next to "Ottoman Turkish Empire Settlement Payments"

I wonder if the IRS will red flag that one.

2008-02-07 08:01:51
37.   cargill06
does it make me a pessimistic if that stan conte report somehow seems negative to me?
2008-02-07 08:14:51
38.   regfairfield
36 Any team that actually might need a centerfielder (A's, Padres, Braves, and even then that's just because their current centerfielder will probably get hurt) wouldn't be able to afford Pierre. The White Sox were the only team that had the combination of need, money, and bad GM that would want him.
2008-02-07 08:17:33
39.   D4P
I don't think that I saw a Whitesnake video outside of "Here I Go Again on My Own,"

I always preferred the "Is This Love" video. Not that they're drastically different, but I remember liking (some 20ish years ago) Tawny's white dress in ITL.

2008-02-07 08:22:00
40.   D4P
Regarding "celebrities" going to rehab:

1. Are "celebrities" normal people who then enter a new world of fortune and fame that changes their lifestyle and habits in such a way that they turn into the kind of people who end up going to rehab,

or

2. Are "celebrities" a particular subset of people who, regardless of the fortune and fame, would likely have turned into the kind of people who end up going to rehab anyway?

2008-02-07 08:29:31
41.   Andrew Shimmin
Celebrities are really 12 foot lizards from outer space. The 'rehab' they go to hasn't got anything to do with drugs--it's that their human disguises need to be touched up every so often, so they developed a plausible excuse to remove themselves from circulation on a regular basis.
2008-02-07 08:33:19
42.   Terry A
41 - Tom Cruise would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
2008-02-07 08:39:26
43.   D4P
Celebrities are one group of new alien overlords that I, for one, do not welcome.
2008-02-07 08:46:11
44.   Andrew Shimmin
43- I will note that, for someone so vehemently opposed to them, you spend what would seem to be an awful lot of time thinking/writing about them. Is it some sort of masochistic ritual for you? Do you subscribe to Us Weekly as a way of punishing (and, thereby purifying) yourself?
2008-02-07 08:53:18
45.   GoBears
10 ジョンソン ジェイソン マイケル!

Johnson Jason Michael!

For this, I learned Japanese? Who knew?

2008-02-07 08:55:50
46.   GoBears
44. Methinks D4P doth protest too much. He's really the 2nd instantiation of L Ron Hubbard.

And he thought an Urban Planning PhD program in North Carolina was the last place we'd look. We're on to you, Thetan Man!

2008-02-07 08:57:01
47.   D4P
44
I don't pay money for celebrity news, but I do check out www.thesuperficial.com on a daily basis. It's not safe for work, and I don't care about the celebrities, but it makes fun of them, which gives me a chuckle now and again.
2008-02-07 09:03:37
48.   CajunDodger
48
I have found the super secret list of confirmed reptilian shapeshifters...WITH VIDEO!!!

http://tinyurl.com/2fxtr2

Honestly, stuff like this is the reason all of us tune in to DT each day...

2008-02-07 09:05:04
49.   Jon Weisman
40 - The question seems so disingenuous. It's not as if all celebrities go to rehab.
2008-02-07 09:06:24
50.   GoBears
47. D4P = Cleopatra. Da Queen of denial.
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2008-02-07 09:08:33
51.   Dark Horse
40-Much as I prefer Andrew's explanation--and I don't think the question is that disingenuous, since celebrities seem to wind up in rehab in even greater proportion than so called "normal" folks--I'd guess that it's a certain type of personality who becomes a celebrity in the first place: driven, more-or-less egotistical, insecure. And that those personality traits aren't incompatible with developing addictions, especially when substances are more readily available than they are to workaday people as well.

Just a conjecture.

2008-02-07 09:11:22
52.   regfairfield
I think the easier access to things to get addicted to as well as the resources to get large quanties of those substances plays a big part.
2008-02-07 09:14:19
53.   D4P
I'd guess that it's a certain type of personality who becomes a celebrity in the first place: driven, more-or-less egotistical, insecure

That's how I tend to think too.

2008-02-07 09:14:59
54.   D4P
50
I'm interested in celebrities in the same way that most of us are interested in Juan Pierre.
2008-02-07 09:17:17
55.   Jon Weisman
52 - I agree. At the same time, rehab facilities and counseling centers are overwhelmed across the country, and it's not celebrities doing the overwhelming. And that's not even factoring in the people who aren't getting help.

So the either/or construct in 40 ... I just don't accept the relevance or the premise. Addiction problems occur for all kinds of reasons. The idea that celebrities as a group are 1) or 2) is preposterous - just like it's preposterous to put any group of rehab patients in a single category.

2008-02-07 09:17:54
56.   Daniel Zappala
44 I'm trying to picture D4P as the albino monk in Da Vinci Code who practices self-flagellation.
2008-02-07 09:19:04
57.   Penarol1916
I'd be curious to see what proportion of "celebrities" go to rehab as opposed to other groups of society. Of course, you would also have to adjust for groups that could not afford rehab but would go if they were able to.
2008-02-07 09:19:40
58.   Daniel Zappala
52 Our society has a bunch of addictive personalities, and all kinds of substances and practices to which you can become addicted. It's not surprising that there are so many people in rehab, and I've stopped being surprised when I find out a friend or acquaintance is going that route.
2008-02-07 09:21:17
59.   Jon Weisman
If the possibility of an upset is 57 percent, then is it an upset?

http://www.basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=139

2008-02-07 09:21:41
60.   Xeifrank
Celebrity rehab chat, let me add that to my list.

vr, Xei

2008-02-07 09:23:11
61.   D4P
59
I think the most useful definition of "upset" refers to a team winning when the probability* of them winning was less than 0.5

*If this probability "exists" in an absolute sense, we can generally only estimate it.

2008-02-07 09:23:28
62.   Xeifrank
59. On the otherhand, I love Pomeroy rankings. vr, Xei
2008-02-07 10:04:51
63.   fanerman
60 What else is on your list?
2008-02-07 10:14:15
64.   Jon Weisman
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3235267

"Domestic violence charges against Rays infielder Willy Aybar were dropped when his wife withdrew the complaint in the Dominican Republic. ..."

"(Rays) spokesman Rick Vaughn issued this statement: 'While details of this situation remain unclear, we are pleased that it has been resolved. We are encouraged that Willy has expressed remorse and accepted responsibility for his actions. The Rays are committed to providing a support system for him and his family when they arrive in St. Petersburg for spring training.' "

2008-02-07 10:17:26
65.   Xeifrank
63. A few obvious things, but I don't want to bore others with that list, and my lists are probably on other peoples lists. :)
vr, Xei
2008-02-07 10:29:15
66.   Terry A
64 - Free(d) Willy.

I hope this is good news. But I've been dealing with the fallout from a domestic abuse issue (you may recall my sister-in-law and her three little girls lived with us for a while last year), and I've learned how remarkably common it is for the victims to do everything in their power to get their "man" off the hook. My sister-in-law tried everything, including going to the prosecuting attorney and telling him that she was the perp and her boyfriend merely the victim. (The PA didn't buy it.)

2008-02-07 10:32:52
67.   Kevin Lewis
51

Isn't it that we see the celebrities in the news more? I would think that the majority of people in rehab do not get the same kind of media coverage as celebrities.

Did anyone see the paparazzi chase of Brittany yesterday. I full accept that she made poor choices, but no one deserves that kind of treatment. Is anyone going to be arrested for standing in front of her car at a stop light?

2008-02-07 10:40:04
68.   silverwidow
Oh man......

Reds and Dodgers talking to A's about Joe Blanton.

http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/redsinsider/2008/02/on-blanton.asp

2008-02-07 10:43:47
69.   Jon Weisman
68 - No sourcing, and makes almost no sense from a Dodger perspective.
2008-02-07 10:44:19
70.   regfairfield
68 That makes no sense for so many different reasons, it's not true.
2008-02-07 10:44:50
71.   fanerman
66 I hope it's for the best, too. I'm skeptical but I hope Willy works things out.
2008-02-07 10:46:43
72.   fanerman
68 The source is "my buddy Doc on his blog." He also says Rosenthal says the Dodgers are interested. But in the comments, Anonymous3 aka John C. says Rosenthal says the Dodgers weren't interested. I think we have enough starting pitching depth, even for Ned.
2008-02-07 11:09:52
73.   JoeyP
You dont see many college coaches being this forthcoming:

"Each school has to recruit to their school and what kind of requirements they (have)," Stoops said. "Arizona State has turned into a JC, and we're a four-year college. According to all the players, they say it's easier to go to school there, easier to get in."

http://tinyurl.com/3ahb2x

2008-02-07 11:11:44
74.   Andrew Shimmin
Tying two themes together, most domestic violence, by far, is committed by intoxicated people. I hope Aybar gets his life together, but I think I'm done rooting for him.
2008-02-07 11:18:40
75.   Terry A
74 - I'm disappointed. I thought you were going to intertwine the domestic violence theme with the celebrities-are-aliens theme.
2008-02-07 11:31:43
76.   underdog
68 Juan Pierre for Joe Blanton - done!

(Just kidding, Ken.)

2008-02-07 11:42:00
77.   Andrew Shimmin
75- How many satellites do you have reading my brain, Freemason?!
2008-02-07 11:42:08
78.   bhsportsguy
Stop this government intervention:

http://tinyurl.com/34bg27

2008-02-07 11:45:07
79.   Disabled List
64 (Rays) spokesman Rick Vaughn issued this statement:...

Glad to see Wild Thing is still working in baseball after his playing career ended.

2008-02-07 11:47:55
80.   Bob Timmermann
78
You eat those things? And you're still alive?

I've told people coming into the library about how they can "get a license to sell things on the street" in Los Angeles. The answer is that there really is no such thing.

You can't just set up a stand somewhere and sell stuff. There are lots of permits you need.

"But the sidewalks are free!"
"Well, no they're really not."
"Yes, they are."
"OK, good luck with that."

Then again, I also couldn't convince a guy that he couldn't walk from L.A. to Florida by walking along the shoulder of Interstate 10 all the way.

"But Interstate highways are open to everybody!"
"But you'll get hit by a car going 70 MPH!"
"But the highways are for the people."
"Why don't you walk on a street paralleling the freeway?"
"I don't want to stop at signals."

2008-02-07 11:51:10
81.   regfairfield
The story of Pedro Astacio's debut:

http://tinyurl.com/2zl64o

2008-02-07 11:51:37
82.   Marty
The bacon-wrapped hot dog is a wonderful thing. My first experience with one was in Ensenada. After a night of drinking my group went back to the motel we were staying at and there was a hot dog vendor there. I stood in line and asked the guy in front of me if the bacon-wrapped dogs were any good. He said "are they any good? They're pork on pork!"
2008-02-07 11:55:10
83.   Xeifrank
Bob, your library stories are fascinating, perhaps you could griddle a few more.
vr, Xei
2008-02-07 11:55:45
84.   bhsportsguy
80 No, I have never had one. I have bought tacos from street vendors but not the bacon dogs.
2008-02-07 11:56:16
85.   kinbote
Someone on Sickels' site [in the Blanton thread] claims to have an inside source saying the Dodgers are discussing Blanton for [at least] an outfielder. Here's the kicker: we'd then sign Shawn Green.
2008-02-07 11:56:45
86.   fanerman
78 First presidential candidate that lifts that ban gets my vote!
2008-02-07 11:57:34
87.   fanerman
86 Sorry for the Rule 5 violation.

85 I will pretend that comment did not exist.

2008-02-07 11:57:46
88.   bhsportsguy
73 Don't forget that ASU got 3 players from Arizona to switch their committments.

UCLA had one of their early commitments leave for ASU, it is believed that he had academic issues.

2008-02-07 12:01:11
89.   Eric Stephen
81
Outstanding!

Too bad they picked the Dodger with the actual great debut. (I know, that's part of the fun of it)

2008-02-07 12:05:22
90.   Eric Enders
I didn't think 40 really deserved the beatdown it received. I mean, it's certainly obvious that, in general, celebrities appear to enter rehab at a much higher rate than other segments of the population. Of course there could be any number of reasons for this, but I don't think asking the question makes one disingenuous.

Do any of these factors play into it?

1) If a celebrity is in rehab, we're far more likely to find out about it than if Joe Shlabotnik down the street is in rehab.

2) Rehab is really, really, really expensive. Celebrities can afford it; lots of other people can't.

3) Celebrities can also better afford the cocaine and booze that causes them to go to rehab in the first place.

4) Celebrities probably have better support systems than normal people. Joe Shlabotnik down the street isn't going to have a manager and agent trying to talk him into going to rehab.

2008-02-07 12:06:43
91.   OhioBlues12
I think bringing back old friend Shawn Green would be a pretty good idea, assuming Juan Pierre were traded. He would make a good back-up OFer/1B and LH PH.
2008-02-07 12:09:09
92.   Andrew Shimmin
I ran "Joe Shlabotnik" through my local Megen's Law database, but it came back clean. Still, I'm going to keep my eye on that guy--sounds like trouble.
2008-02-07 12:09:56
93.   fanerman
Joe Shlabotnik is a celebrity!
2008-02-07 12:10:48
94.   regfairfield
91 He'd be a nice guy for a team with no backup plan, like Detroit or Atlanta. This is assuming he's willing to sit on the bench.
2008-02-07 12:14:12
95.   Bob Timmermann
I can only discuss library stories in generalities so it won't be all that interesting.
2008-02-07 12:16:06
96.   fanerman
From wikipedia:

Linus once invited Shlabotnik to a testimonial dinner for Charlie Brown; unfortunately, the ballplayer got lost en route from his day job at a car wash.

Athlete... day job... does not compute. Thankfully, this makes me feel not as old as I've been feeling lately.

2008-02-07 12:16:11
97.   Andrew Shimmin
95- You could get people with funny questions to sign a Librarian/Penitent confidentiality waiver. You might have to toss them a few bucks or a clean toothbrush or something, but I bet you'd get some takers.
2008-02-07 12:22:24
98.   Bob Timmermann
97
There would also be the problem with getting disciplined at work.
2008-02-07 12:27:49
99.   Eric Enders
Joe Sheehan chatting on Sean Casey: "For whatever it's worth, people genuinely love the guy. Then again, Luis Gonzalez had that rep two years ago, too."
2008-02-07 12:29:21
100.   silverwidow
Which outfielder would go to Oakland? It certainly won't be Kemp. And I doubt Beane wants Ethier back. My guess would be DYoung goes along with DeJesus and 2nd tier pitching prospects.
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2008-02-07 12:30:55
101.   regfairfield
100 The last thing Oakland needs is mediocre corner outfielders, they're really good at producing those. I really doubt that that's a real rumor.
2008-02-07 12:31:55
102.   Eric Enders
Man, it'll be so fun watching Joe Blanton pitch for the Dodgers the next four years while Clayton Kershaw tries to "beat down the door" in AAA and the bullpen.
2008-02-07 12:34:22
103.   Gen3Blue
85 Love it--

and now their right back to Kemp,Hu and LaRoche type fantasies.

2008-02-07 12:37:20
104.   CajunDodger
85
That is just about the nuttiest rumor that I have heard in awhile.

How about Pierre and Loaiza for Blanton? Then maybe the fairies will come and give us some of those pork on pork hot dogs that sound so good right now before lunch...

2008-02-07 12:38:27
105.   fanerman
104 You don't need fairies to get pork on pork hot dogs.
2008-02-07 12:41:54
106.   CajunDodger
105
I need them to deliver. I don't feel like driving anywhere at this point...
2008-02-07 12:43:01
107.   Andrew Shimmin
CajunDodger's application for a helper monkey is still pending.
2008-02-07 12:43:29
108.   LogikReader
Joe Blanton? Let me go check baseball-reference...

Aw, come on, man!! Ned, please tell me this isn't for real.

2008-02-07 12:44:45
109.   DodgerBlueBruce
72 The source "my buddy Doc on his blog" is Cincinnati Enquirer Sports Reporter Paul Daughtery. Still no source.
2008-02-07 12:45:30
110.   regfairfield
Here's our sources for the Blanton deal.

Someone's buddy Doc.
An inside source from some random commenter on Sickel's site.

Seriously, freaking out over this? I can call my buddy and get some inside source quotes that can make you guys feel better if you want.

2008-02-07 12:46:06
111.   Eric Stephen
It's always best to combine pork on pork hot dogs with being sedentary.

Side hot dog question here: does anyone put mustard on chili dogs? My cousin does that and it sounded disgusting at first but it doesn't sound that bad upon further review. I'm willing to try it. I put mustard on regular dogs so it shouldn't be too different.

2008-02-07 12:47:10
112.   Eric Enders
110 Who's freaking? So far, people have mostly made fun of the ridiculousness of it.
2008-02-07 12:47:16
113.   fanerman
110 Your buddy better have a higher-ranking-sounding name than Doc.
2008-02-07 12:47:43
114.   CajunDodger
Has anyone talked about the Schilling injury yet? The Boston Herald is reporting that he is having season-ending shoulder surgery and that Theo is none too pleased and is trying to void the contract.

http://tinyurl.com/2y7vw2

I'm trying to figure out if that is really that big of a deal considering how deep their staff is right now...

2008-02-07 12:48:56
115.   Bob Timmermann
114
I used a clever headline on the Griddle for it!

Well, I thought it was clever.

2008-02-07 12:50:51
116.   CajunDodger
108
My application was rejected. I am now down to fairies and gnomes...or maybe my wife. I think the first two are more likely to deliver my pork-on-pork magical goodness.
2008-02-07 12:52:40
117.   regfairfield
112 I might have misread 108.
2008-02-07 12:54:14
118.   CajunDodger
115
I give it a 7.9. High marks for style.

Man I'm in a weird mood...

Nothing substantial starts in Dodgertown for almost a month, LSU spring practice is a long ways off, I don't care about the Lakers/Clippers, and I can't get my roto league off the ground until next month. I hate February.

2008-02-07 12:55:50
119.   DodgerBlueBruce
113 The source is Ken Rosenthal at Fox Sports. His "inside MLB source says chances of a deal being done are 50-50."
2008-02-07 12:57:05
120.   LogikReader
Joe Blanton to the Dodgers makes as much sense as Shaquille O'Neal Going to the Phoenix Suns.

.........oh

2008-02-07 12:58:07
121.   El Lay Dave
LAT should round us all up a batch of bacon-wrapped dogs.

111 I put mustard on my dog prior to ladling the chili on top of it. Tasty! That is, or at least used to be, the standard way they serve them at Cupids.

2008-02-07 12:58:12
122.   CajunDodger
116
Oops, I meant 107

My wife and I are taking advantage of the weak housing market and purchasing our first home next week. Can anyone tell me how long the paperwork process is of actually signing all the piles of paperwork? I am trying to decide if it is a long lunch kind of process or if I need to take the day off from work.

2008-02-07 12:59:27
123.   El Lay Dave
98 Doesn't that depend on who is doing the administrating?

Has anyone discovered Greg Brock's mystery blog yet?

2008-02-07 13:00:39
124.   fanerman
119

"At least two teams are showing significant interest in Blanton, one of which figures to be the Reds, whose rotation is questionable behind Aaron Harang and Bronson Arroyo. The Dodgers, Yankees, Rockies and Indians are not in the mix, sources say. The Twins, desperate for a veteran starting pitcher, could be one possibility for Blanton. The Rays, deep in prospects, could be another."

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/02/07/joe-blanton-still-in-limbo/

There's a link to the video from there which I don't want to watch because I'm at work.

2008-02-07 13:02:35
125.   Terry A
Somebody here has a daughter who loves Shawn Green, right? She's probably the source on the rumor in 85 . Or maybe one of Andrew's drunken, abusive celebrity alien friends. A toss-up, really.
2008-02-07 13:05:25
126.   Bob Timmermann
The new publisher of the Washington Post is:
1) younger than me
2) Tina Weymouth's niece

http://tinyurl.com/yqrg32

2008-02-07 13:09:40
127.   bhsportsguy
123 My sources tell me it is not up yet.
2008-02-07 13:17:49
128.   Penarol1916
111. Everyone in Chicago puts mustard on chili and hot dogs, you had just better not try to put any ketchup on it.
2008-02-07 13:20:04
129.   kinbote
For what's it's worth, I don't take the Blanton rumor seriously, but I do worry about the general management of our team.
2008-02-07 13:20:21
130.   Xeifrank
122. Took us about 1.5 hours. Alot of initialing. Also, make sure all the numbers are correct as far as down payment amounts and most importantly that the interest rate and loan type are correct.
vr, Xei
2008-02-07 13:21:30
131.   Xeifrank
Perhaps Blanton is the 10% thing Ned was alluding to.
vr, Xei
2008-02-07 13:24:46
132.   bigcpa
To whom it may concern... I have an opening in my roto league. 5x5 saber categories. 10-12 teams NL/AL. Snake draft via Sportsline in mid-March. Buy-in $125 with 3 payouts. Email me bigcpa@gmail.
2008-02-07 13:49:23
133.   El Lay Dave
122 I agree with 130 ; it might have taken us close to two hours, but I am bit slow on the uptake. We scheduled it for late in the day so we didn't have to go back to work and could celebrate instead.

When is the DT housewarming party? :)

2008-02-07 14:03:04
134.   El Lay Dave
126 But is her boyfriend a Genius of Love?
2008-02-07 14:06:23
135.   Bob Timmermann
134
I believe she's married to a high-powered New York attorney. Her family threw a very, very, very, very big wedding.
2008-02-07 14:11:50
136.   CajunDodger
133 122
Thanks. We signed some preliminary stuff already. I'm pretty much convinced that somewhere in the fine print I pledged my son to slave labor if we do not make payments.

If a trek to Fontana is in the cards for everyone, a DT day at Casa de la Cajun is a distinct possibility. ;)

2008-02-07 14:32:41
137.   El Lay Dave
136 ¿¿Casa?? Maison Cajun?
2008-02-07 14:32:45
138.   al bundy
All those holding out hope that Luis Gonzalez will return...Rotoworld reports that he's signed with the Marlins. Poor Marlins fans.
2008-02-07 14:33:37
139.   El Lay Dave
136 Oh, and I'll volunteer to bring a pork-on-pork dish.
2008-02-07 14:39:28
140.   ToyCannon
136
Good luck with the house. I pity the escrow person who meets the people who actually read each page before they sign/initial their freedom away.
2008-02-07 14:46:53
141.   silverwidow
Tony Clark is about to sign with the Padres.
2008-02-07 14:47:07
142.   cargill06
doesn anyone see a corralation between conte seing schmidt throw for the 1st time off a mound than all the sudden the dodgers are in the market for a pitcher less than 48 hours later?
2008-02-07 14:53:43
143.   silverwidow
142 That's if you're gullible enough to believe the Dodgers are in the market.
2008-02-07 14:55:23
144.   cargill06
143 well if the dodgers truely are asking about blanton that gives us a lot of answers about schmidtty
2008-02-07 14:57:03
145.   silverwidow
144 Blanton gives up truckloads of hits. I don't see him as a guy worth getting.
2008-02-07 14:58:48
146.   cargill06
145 doesn't he resemble brad penny? i think a lot of teams would see penny as worth getting
2008-02-07 15:00:54
147.   silverwidow
146 Blanton's stuff is average. At least Penny has a 97 MPH fastball.
2008-02-07 15:02:38
148.   cargill06
147 we must be watching different guys because for the most part last year penny was between 91-94. blanton is usually up in the low 90's and blanton is a inning eater with great control. what's not to like?
2008-02-07 15:04:44
149.   fanerman
Who says the Dodgers are asking about Blanton besides somebody's buddy named Doc?
2008-02-07 15:06:18
150.   scareduck
126 - she is also younger than me. Ouch.
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2008-02-07 15:08:26
151.   silverwidow
148 Watch the highlights from Penny's 14 strikeout game against Florida; he was bringing the gas. Blanton is an innings eater, sure, but will he make THAT much of a difference to trade away several potentially good players?

And when/if Schmidt comes back, guess who goes to the pen? Not Penny. Not Lowe. Not Kuroda. Not Blanton. Not Schmidt.

2008-02-07 15:10:05
152.   CanuckDodger
146 -- Any man 250 lbs. "resembles Penny." Blanton is practically a soft-tosser compared to Penny.

Listen, what has happened is what always happens: some other team has contacted the Dodgers because they desire our youth and want to unload a "proven veteran." The other GM proposed a deal and Colletti said no. End of conversation. Then it gets reported in the media that "The Dodgers are talking to Team X about a trade for Proven Veteran Y." Yes, there was "talk," it was about a trade, and it was about Proven Veteran Y, but the report twists around who wanted to make a deal. We already KNOW that Beane is desperate to rebuild and wants to unload Blanton. And we already know that Colletti said no when Beane tried to send us Blanton before, at the Winter Meetings.

2008-02-07 15:12:50
153.   Ricardo
151.In my opinion, Blanton just makes sense if Penny or Lowe are traded.
2008-02-07 15:13:30
154.   cargill06
151 that was 1 start. like i said for the most part his fastball's were 91-94 and blanton is in the low 90's and they dont strike out many guys and have a very simlar build... please explain to me how blanton doesn't resemble penny oh and very similar era's the last 3 years so......
2008-02-07 15:15:10
155.   CajunDodger
137
Not that my slip was intentional, but all of the architecture is Spanish in the French Quarter for a reason. The Spaniards held New Orleans on four separate occasions I believe.

139
So long as pork is being offered, my house is your house.

2008-02-07 15:15:34
156.   trainwreck
Blanton is more high 80's-low 90s.

He used to throw a lot harder when he was in the minors.

2008-02-07 15:15:52
157.   cargill06
and like i said from the get go,
conte goes to arizona
schmidt pitches for conte
conte calls colletti
dodgers need another pitcher
2008-02-07 15:21:05
158.   ToyCannon
157
I hope your never on the jury when I'm being tried on shaky circumstantial evidence.
2008-02-07 15:21:12
159.   CanuckDodger
157 -- The problem with your little theory is that the Dodgers were NEVER counting on Schmidt at all. We already have Loaiza, and are paying him a lot of money this year. We signed Kuroda because Schmidt was a huge question mark. Had Schmidt not been a question mark, Kuroda doesn't get signed.
2008-02-07 15:21:22
160.   CajunDodger
154
Maybe the difference is that Penny has chosen to back off on his gas to increase durability whereas Blanton just can't bring it in the high 90s. Either way, I think they are more similar than I first realized, especially lately.

No matter what, unless we are talking about getting rid of our most redundant pieces (Loaiza, Pierre, Young) I think the discussion is mostly academic. Someone may have talked Ned into that one before we signed Kuroda, but not after.

2008-02-07 15:22:24
161.   Bob Timmermann
Officially, New Orleans was a Spanish possession from 1763-1800 only. But there were lots of people hanging out in the area. And there were settlements before New Orleans was officially founded in 1718.
2008-02-07 15:23:41
162.   Xeifrank
157. Shoot! If that's the case then Jon was right all along and we shouldn't have given Schmidt that one point in his pitching staff preview. Sorry Jon!
vr, Xei
2008-02-07 15:23:57
163.   Jim Hitchcock
111 Funny you should ask that. I started having mustard put on my chili dogs for the first time last month, and it agrees with my proletarian tastes.

Never thought of it when I worked at Der Wienersnitzel some 35 years ago.

2008-02-07 15:24:20
164.   jasonungar07
The dodgers are trying to trade Pierre or Ethier in my opinion.
2008-02-07 15:24:37
165.   overkill94
154 Because if you actually watch them pitch you'll see that they have totally different approaches on the mound. Penny is a power-pitcher whose strikeout rate has slipped a little and Blanton is Lowe-like in his strikeout totals while truly pitching to contact.
2008-02-07 15:28:06
166.   cargill06
158 there's a difference between speculating and being convinced beyond resonable doubt.

i just call them like i see them, dodgers are not looking for a pitcher since they sign kuroda. what are the odds the next time you hear that they are talking to a team about a pitcher is the day after their trainer watches schmidt throw for the first time?

after last year when colletti thought he had TOO MANY pitchers and turned out to have NOT ENOUGH i wouldn't be shocked if he wants to add another arm knowing schmidt is not going to be ready to go this year or ever.

2008-02-07 15:31:03
167.   CajunDodger
161
Dang it! I would have actually researched that statement had I known you would read it rather than just conjecturin'

There is much more Caribbean and Spanish influences down there than most people realize, however.

2008-02-07 15:33:59
168.   Xeifrank
I converted Blanton's 2008 ZIPS Projection to the Dodgers park and adjusted for league and the three most similar pitchers in the NL West to him in terms of HR/9, K/9 and BB/9 are the following...

1. D.Lowe
2. J.Fogg
3. H.Kuroda

vr, Xei

2008-02-07 15:36:58
169.   alex 7
cargill, it was stated above in comment 124 that the Dodgers are specifically NOT interested in Blanton. It was also shown that the only person who has stated anything about the Dodgers and Blanton is some commenter's source.

Why does it seem you try to beat a dead horse?

2008-02-07 15:37:01
170.   fanerman
166 Doesn't putting "trainer watches Schmidt" and "rumor about Dodgers and Blanton" together sound like a conspiracy theory? Correlation doesn't equal causation. Anyway it doesn't seem that rare or fishy because these types of "team x going after player y" rumors seem pretty common.
2008-02-07 15:37:33
171.   underdog
166 I thought it was reported here yesterday that they did watch Schmidt throw from the mound for the first time, and he looked good, and will definitely throw from the mound when spring begins... ? I think we're all right to be cautious about Schmidt, but don't see evidence to give up on him, or that the Dodgers have.
2008-02-07 15:38:16
172.   fanerman
169 Link for the lazy: 124
2008-02-07 15:38:39
173.   jasonungar07
166 Wasn't that his excuse for picking up Loazia and his 8 mill?
2008-02-07 15:38:40
174.   silverwidow
Look, if Schmidt isn't ready and/or Loaiza looks horrible, then it's time to give some younger pitchers a shot (starting with McDonald). TAKE A RISK.
2008-02-07 15:39:23
175.   fanerman
173 And Kuroda, too?
2008-02-07 15:39:25
176.   cargill06
169 because i was just able to get to the blog and wanted to have a chance discuss it.
2008-02-07 15:42:51
177.   Jon Weisman
174 - The point should be that giving the younger pitchers the shot is the opposite of taking a risk.
2008-02-07 15:43:17
178.   cargill06
174 i agree, all i was saying is doesn't it seem funny that the 1st time the trainer seems schmidt throw rumors of the dodgers asking about blanton are brought up???

that's all i said guys

when dwight freeny hurt his foot and they signed simeon rice the next day you'd have to been niave to think freeny wasn't out for a long time, and behold i was right about that one.

2008-02-07 15:47:22
179.   underdog
I guess I just didn't see those rumors being linked. Call it coincidental. Especially since the ones involving the Dodgers had no basis in fact and were basically conjecture on the part of somebody far away from the team. I didn't connect those dots at all, but if they are connected, it's because another team's reporter saw a possibility and created a scenario.
2008-02-07 15:47:36
180.   cargill06
169 and if you don't want to talk about it don't discuss it it's that simple. if everyone else was annoyed about it they would do the same thing too but obviously there is some interest talking about it.
2008-02-07 15:50:40
181.   alex 7
is there such a thing as the most likely worse-case scenario? Assuming Schmidt, Kuo, and two random starters go down with injuries, the Dodgers still get to pick 5 starters from:

Penny, Lowe, Billingsly, Kuroda, Loaiza, Kershaw, Meloan, Miller, J. Johnson, and Stults. That's about worse-case right? Only then would it make sense to be looking at another arm.

2008-02-07 15:51:06
182.   silverwidow
I'm just tired of hearing the constant desire for quick fixes. The player in question isn't even a difference maker, which makes it more frustrating. Use the farm; that's what it's there for.
2008-02-07 15:52:20
183.   Ricardo
174. I agree with you. But Blanton would be a nice addition if they trade Penny. His trade value is high now and Colletti could get good prospects.

PS: I don´t think that will happen.

2008-02-07 15:52:49
184.   Marty
i agree, all i was saying is doesn't it seem funny that the 1st time the trainer seems schmidt throw rumors of the dodgers asking about blanton are brought up???

I think the real answer is, no it doesn't seem funny. Coincidences happen all the time.

2008-02-07 15:53:27
185.   cargill06
182 i have no really strong feelings either way whether they go get him or not, but 230 IP and a 3.95 era can make a difference on a lot of teams, and would be a difference maker compared to loaiza
2008-02-07 15:54:11
186.   CajunDodger
181
I tend to see things the same way. Ever since Jon's post on what a truly "average" 5th starter is, I have lowered my expectations for that slot quite a bit. If our top 4 can perform up to their projections and we get something along the lines of 8-10 wins and a 4.80 ERA out of some combination of the above, I will consider that more than adequate.
2008-02-07 15:57:08
187.   cargill06
181 odalis perez is still a FA
2008-02-07 15:58:15
188.   fanerman
185 I think adding Blanton to this team would mostly be diminishing returns. Sure he'd be better than Loiaza, but given our pitching depth, I don't see how adding him would really help us that much. Of course, if the trade was Blanton for Pierre...
2008-02-07 15:58:31
189.   cargill06
i think jeff weaver too
2008-02-07 15:58:34
190.   CajunDodger
185
I would never turn someone like that down in the price was right, but I doubt that bringing Blanton in would fix our solid but so far unproven and unspectacular offensive lineup (at least with Pierre and the 2007 Nomar in the lineup).

For the Dodgers this offseason, it has not been a question of what we would get but rather what do we have to give up. And the answer always seems to be the same: way too much.

2008-02-07 16:00:38
191.   silverwidow
185 He's far, far, FAR from a lock to repeat last year's performance. He was awful in 2006.
2008-02-07 16:00:58
192.   underdog
Don't forget Jason Johnson!

{this is a 7 recording, beep!}

2008-02-07 16:01:24
193.   alex 7
We should look into what offensive difference-makers might be available this mid-season. Base it on contract / team / likelihood of team not being very good?
2008-02-07 16:01:35
194.   alex 7
of course when I say we, I mean you.
2008-02-07 16:02:43
195.   trainwreck
193
Barry Bonds.
2008-02-07 16:05:31
196.   fanerman
193 Should likelihood of being in prison be a factor?
2008-02-07 16:05:44
197.   CajunDodger
195
I know that some may disagree, but I hate Bonds so much that if Colletti did that I might suspend my fandom for at least 5 years.
2008-02-07 16:06:33
198.   alex 7
umm, are we a fan of talent or likeability? I vote for talent.
2008-02-07 16:07:54
199.   alex 7
cajun, could you throw on some sunglasses and tell yourself that it's formerly unknown prospect Thomas Bonds?
2008-02-07 16:08:44
200.   fanerman
198 Are you talking about Barry Bonds?
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2008-02-07 16:09:40
201.   Jim Hitchcock
197 I think very few would disagree with you, though I don't hate the man, just could never see him playing with the Dodgers.

Then again, the prospect of seeing Bonds and Kent in the same dugout again...

2008-02-07 16:09:51
202.   Bluebleeder87
I wonder if Tomko thinks he's a good pitcher or in the back of his mind he thinks, man, I suck but people keep throwing money at me...
2008-02-07 16:14:06
203.   fanerman
197 I'm 100% on board with you. Being the biggest former SF Giant that he is is reason enough to not want him on the Dodgers. But, if that's not enough, there's all the baggage.
2008-02-07 16:15:44
204.   CajunDodger
199
I am unreasonable, irrational, and otherwise completely biased when it comes to that guy. Kent is unlikable. Bradley was pretty unlikable. Keving Brown was unlikable. Bonds just makes me want to violate Rule 1 more than any other human.

If I could somehow know that the Dodgers could win a Championship this year with him or finish under .500 without him, I would still rather the Dodgers finish under .500. Completely irrational, but also completely truthful.

2008-02-07 16:15:56
205.   trainwreck
203
But if Bonds would help the Dodgers make the World Series or win it, then it would kill Giant fans.
2008-02-07 16:16:16
206.   alex 7
that could be a one season sitcom. Inside the head of a huge underachiever. Well, eventually he stops underachieving and just realizes he's not that good. Does he brag about himself due to his high-profile job even if he's not very good at it?

"sorry, I only sleep with sub 4 eras"

2008-02-07 16:17:38
207.   alex 7
I like where your head's at trainwreck. Bonds could even take a page of Kent's book and cry at the press conference as he tells us how he always wanted to be a Dodger. It hurt him as much as it hurt us when he would go deep against the blue. The spin-thing he did was simply to hide his anger.
2008-02-07 16:17:52
208.   CajunDodger
203
I had philosophical issues when Colletti came on board with Conte, but I was OK as long as they performed (Colletti: C+ Conte: D). Bonds would throw me over the line.
2008-02-07 16:18:59
209.   underdog
205 It's almost worth it for that, isn't it? Almost, but not quite.

Plus, as noted above, Bonds introduction to the clubhouse in the presence of Jeff Kent, well... it would just need Apu there to say, "And if you should survive, thankyoucomeagain."

2008-02-07 16:21:00
210.   trainwreck
209
Irritating Jeff Kent would be the best part.
2008-02-07 16:22:05
211.   fanerman
205 There's no logic involved for me. I don't care about how Bonds would "help" the Dodgers. Signing him would be the equivalent of selling away the Dodgers' souls. Would we still be the Dodgers? In my mind no way. We'd be betraying ourselves, the Dodgers of the past, that great Dodger in the sky, everybody.
2008-02-07 16:24:23
212.   alex 7
I think the great Dodger in the sky has been napping for quite some time.
2008-02-07 16:25:50
213.   underdog
210 Hee. Yeah, but I'd say, put them both on a pay-per-view UFC instead of on the Dodgers.
2008-02-07 16:27:15
214.   trainwreck
211
We traded that great Dodger in the sky to the Giants.

I said the Bonds thing mostly as a joke, but I am not going to pretend the Dodgers are some righteous team that would never do something bad.

2008-02-07 16:28:40
215.   trainwreck
Dodgers are a business, just like everyone else.

Well, except maybe the Rockies.

2008-02-07 16:29:44
216.   CajunDodger
213
Now THAT would get some ratings...at least from people on this site.
2008-02-07 16:30:03
217.   fanerman
214 I don't pretend the Dodgers are righteous either. But in my mind, Bonds as a Dodger is so horrendously evil an idea that it makes the Dodgers in their present form positively angelic.
2008-02-07 16:30:19
218.   trainwreck
Heck, our back-up catcher is an admitted steroid user.
2008-02-07 16:30:23
219.   gpellamjr
Put me down in the let's-go-get-Bonds camp.
2008-02-07 16:31:50
220.   alex 7
Bonds' jersey would sell like crazy at the stadium. Not stating that with any right / wrong verdict. Just saying it would.
2008-02-07 16:34:49
221.   fanerman
I'm cringing in disgust.
2008-02-07 16:34:54
222.   trainwreck
We really should be set at our offensive positions for a few years.
2008-02-07 16:37:15
223.   underdog
Sigh, spring training just can't get here fast enough.
2008-02-07 16:38:07
224.   fanerman
223 You said it.
2008-02-07 16:39:55
225.   trainwreck
I wish the Red Sox were run by Brian Sabean.

"Without Schilling you guys are going to need more veteran presence in that rotation. A veteran presence like Esteban Loaiza."

2008-02-07 16:42:15
226.   trainwreck
With Ned's connection to Brian, we should have stolen all their top pitching prospects by now. This is an untaped resource we are not taking advantage of.
2008-02-07 16:42:59
227.   fanerman
This is an untaped resource we are not taking advantage of.

You sound like Bill Belichick.

2008-02-07 16:45:56
228.   trainwreck
Damn you, brain.
2008-02-07 16:46:15
229.   Jon Weisman
I don't normally fish for comments, but I can't believe my Rafael Furcal capsule yesterday got none.
2008-02-07 16:49:43
230.   trainwreck
The new Yankee stadium is going to have a martini bar.
2008-02-07 16:49:50
231.   regfairfield
Taking it back a bit, Penny's average fastball last year was 93.4 MPH, tops in the NL.

http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2007/11/the_bill_james_2.php

2008-02-07 16:50:19
232.   CajunDodger
225
How does Sabean still have a job? I know that McGowan wanted Bonds through last year, but Sabean has made some pretty crazy moves in the past two seasons.
2008-02-07 16:50:34
233.   underdog
Sorry, Jon, forgot to say, I enjoyed it, and - I'm going out on the limb here - but probably the only time you'll get Bette Davis replaced with Rafael Furcal.
2008-02-07 16:52:07
234.   CajunDodger
231
I haven't looked at the link, but I can only assume that is among qualifying starters as opposed to relievers.
2008-02-07 16:52:50
235.   regfairfield
234 Yep.
2008-02-07 16:53:17
236.   fanerman
234 Minimum of 162 IP.
2008-02-07 17:12:35
237.   kinbote
229 DP4 must've been too busy watching VH1 Classic to comment . . .
2008-02-07 17:13:18
238.   Andrew Shimmin
Penny's average fastball speed in 2006, when he was the fastest pitcher in the NL, was 93.4. His average fastball speed in the last game of the 2007 season (he threw five unremarkable innings with two strikeouts) was 93.957.

I could go through more of his games, looking for soft tossing, but maybe we could all just agree that he throws hard.

2008-02-07 17:14:16
239.   Andrew Shimmin
Grumble, grumble, grumble. Stupid regfairfield, thinks he's so hot, saying what I wanted to say before I hit submit. . .
2008-02-07 17:17:48
240.   Andrew Shimmin
Average fastball speed in his next to last start: 93.966.
2008-02-07 17:20:40
241.   trainwreck
Jon, I have a question after reading your In Treatment post at Season Pass.

Is your biggest issue with the show the Laura episodes?

2008-02-07 17:22:08
242.   Jon Weisman
241 - Not particularly.

Though Tuesday's Alex episode wasn't problematic for me.

236 - Thanks. That's all I needed. New post up top.

2008-02-07 17:22:31
243.   Jon Weisman
242 - Actually, my thanks was for 233. No offense, 236.
2008-02-07 17:23:38
244.   Andrew Shimmin
And I didn't realize the link in 231 was to 2007 season data. Penny was the fastest in the NL last year, as well as 2006. Making the gameday parsing I just did worthless. So.

I could look up Joe Blanton numbers, but that doesn't sound like very much fun. Plus, I don't think there's any much chance he's LA bound.

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