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Current Roster with Estimated 2009 Salaries
(updated November 14)
Most figures are estimates (some are wild estimates) but will be updated as information comes in. Corrections welcome.
More contract details here.
Starting Pitchers (5)
$10,000,000 Hiroki Kuroda
*$475,000 Chad Billingsley
*$415,000 Clayton Kershaw
*$405,000 Eric Stults
*$400,000 James McDonald
*Total: $11,695,000
Bullpen (7)
*$2,500,000 Takashi Saito
*$1,300,000 Scott Proctor
*$1,500,000 Jonathan Broxton
*$425,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
*$420,000 Cory Wade
*$410,000 Ramon Troncoso
*$400,000 Scott Elbert
Total: $6,955,000
Also on 40-man roster
Mario Alvarez
Yhency Brazoban
Greg Miller
Justin Orenduff
Starting Lineup (8)
$17,100,000 Andruw Jones
*$3,000,000 Russell Martin
*$2,500,000 Andre Ethier
*$600,000 Matt Kemp
*$600,000 James Loney
*$500,000 Angel Berroa
*$410,000 Blake DeWitt
*$400,000 Tony Abreu
Total: $25,110,000
Bench (5)
$10,000,000 Juan Pierre
*$600,000 Jason Repko
*$410,000 Delwyn Young
*$400,000 Danny Ardoin
*$400,000 Chin-Lung Hu
Total: $11,810,000
Note: Team can buy out Ozuna's 2009 option for $200,000
Also on 40-man roster
A.J. Ellis
Lucas May
Xavier Paul
Disabled List
$12,000,000 Jason Schmidt
Also Paying ...
$2,000,000 Brad Penny (buyout of $9,000,000 option)
$50,000 Gary Bennett (buyout of $900,000 option)
Note: Kansas City is responsible for $500,000 buyout of Angel Berroa's $5,500,000 option for 2009.
Working total: *$68,020,000
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The Dodgers today named Ellen Harrigan director of baseball administration, making her one of fewer than 10 women (including the team's own Kim Ng) to reach that level in the majors.
Harrigan started out with Toronto in 1981 and came to the Dodgers in 2000. In her most recent position, as assistant director of baseball administration, she dealt with player contracts and waivers, along with coordinating special projects for operations and scouting.
I could see the Angels making a run at Sabathia, especially with Garland's contract expiring after 2008.
...which means I left Garland off the FA list for next year. He'll be 29 in 2009, and his 2008 will go a long way in determining his rank on the FA market.
Last 3 years:
Lowe: 639.1 IP, 118 ERA+
Garland: 640.2 IP, 114 ERA+
Given that Garland is 7 years younger than Lowe, he is more likely to be coveted than Lowe. Still, my point stands that Lowe will garner a lot of attention next offseason.
I could see Lowe getting 3/42 from someone if he has a decent season this year.
My offseason for the Dodgers would have us sign either Furcal or Orlando Hudson and then fill in Hu at the other position. ++ defense at second and short is something we have not seen since the Izturis/Cora tandem. Throw in Jones and Martin and we could be the best team up the middle in the NL.
Then, I would like to see Garland or Lowe come back as opposed to Sabbathia. It is a risk not to go after the best guy on the market, but I would want to save some of the money for Martin/Brox/Ethier extensions.
1 fair to say laa got the better end of that garland deal?
If Lowe pulls down a 2004 season, will your point wobble?
Just as with A-Rod, I really hate entering these bidding wars in which the winner inevitably makes a huge bet in which the entire direction of the franchise hinges on one player.
I think it's nice to think about Sabathia atop our 2009 rotation, but realistically, I view it as a longshot.
Best of luck to him
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Or were you thinking of the Canadian TV show with the title character as a leprechaun?
Yea, just thinking out loud. So, I imagine whether or not we extend Penny would depend on how his second half goes this year.
I personally would prefer to go short with someone like Sheets, Burnett (can opt out after 2008), or Pedro. It is one thing I really like about Colletti.
I think we have a good core of young pitching coming up through the ranks and a bunch of guys who have a chance to pull a Rich Hill and slot in to the 2-hole (Miller, McDonald, Elbert, Kuo).
If Lowe puts up a 90 ERA+, then wins the clinching game of 3 playoff series, I'll take that!
And my point will stand. :)
Most people look at his peripherals and say that, but that was said two years ago. Based on his numbers I would have to agree, but he just seems too valuable to trade right now. On the open market he is a $15 mil pitcher.
Yes it will, and it will stand taller then all the other points.
Hey didn't he leave as a free agent after all those heroics? Could we ask for anything more?
I still have hope that Sheets can put together a healthy year. It is kind of a catch-22 with him. If he is healthy he will end up getting a monster contract. If he fails to make 20 starts again then you probably don't want him.
Anyway... congrats to Ellen Harrigan!
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Harrigan, That's Me!
Who is your friend when you find that you need a friend?
Harrigan, That's Me!
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Who is the woman helps a man every time she can?
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1. He's coming off a career year, his value is about as high as it can be.
2. He's had injuries in the past.
3. He's relatively affordable at 8 mil for 08 plus a team option on 09.
4. He'll want a big contract if he's healthy and productive, a contract beyond the 3-4 years we'd want to go.
5. We've been burned on Odalis, Carlos Perez, Dreifort, Ishii, and Schmidt. I don't think we throw money at Penny for the length and type of contract he would want.
6. If we pick up his option for 09 after a solid year in 08, he'll be upset at not getting more of his true value than the option year we'll be paying. That is not a fun situation to imagine, especially with a guy who can blow steam like Brad.
If we have a healthy Kuo and Schmidt this spring, we can consider moving Penny with Kershaw in the wings.
Say the Indians become sellers either now or in July. Would you trade Penny and Hu for C.C. if he agrees to an extension?
I'm strongly inclined to re-sign a proven player who wants to be here and is willing to offer something resembling a discount.
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http://www.insidesocal.com/dodgers/archives/2008/02/that_was_one_lo.html
"... and let me tell you about these Dodgertown elevators."
I think those clauses are relatively common among crappy veterans. That's how we got Shea Hillenbrand last year, in a slightly different situation.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/20/pf/college/stanford_tuition.ap/index.htm
It's quite something that we're heading toward a world where people could be spending more on their kids' preschool than on their college education.
I agree with your overall premise, but I just don't agree with avoiding the FA pitching market just because we've been burned before. The key is to avoid signing crap. We didn't get burned on Lowe.
Also, Penny has a better track record of all those pitchers with the exception of Schmidt, who is a different case since he's been hurt.
Damn! 14 years too late.
OHH!! The first time I read that post I thought Stanford was simply not going to offer tuition to <100k families. It's the exact opposite.
Stanford offers the tuition for <100k families for free! This is a great story.
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That Preschool line reminds me of the show "The New Adventures of Old Christine." You know how the little kid goes to a private school? Something about private school doesn't sit well with me, but the characters on the show make it rather humorous.
I can't imagine the Mar Vista public school system is that bad, anyway, can you?
http://daily.stanford.edu/article/2008/2/20/universityAnnouncesBoldAidPolicy
I remember that back when I was deciding between colleges, Stanford ended up being cheaper for me than UC Berkeley.
Agreed. 2008 will go a long way in determining whether Perez can pull a Pavano-like contract from some team.
I'd rather paint a number on the pitching machine and wheel it out there.
Let the Mets sign and overpay him, then they can pay for him to pitch for Kansas City before he gets a minor league invite with Washington.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/lee_jenkins/02/20/jenkins.torre/
Meant to put that in there.
BB/9
2005 6.12
2006 5.63
2007 4.02
I think signing Oliver Perez is as big a steal as a blind man stealing reading glasses from the 99 cent store.
NOTE TO MLB WORLD: THE DODGERS DON'T SIGN LEFTY PITCHERS NAMED PEREZ ANYMORE!
If that is the case and Penny is able to adjust to have a better second half, than I would be all for it.
One day I will move up to the top and get the thick envelope at home.
While I wait, I'm going to apply for Packers season tickets.
So if I understand correctly, tuition will be zero if you make $99,999, and $36,000 if you make $100,001. Seems like that would give families in the $101,000 range incentive to hire creative accountants, and families in the $99,000 range incentive to make sure no promotions come through.
I remember that back when I was deciding between colleges, Stanford ended up being cheaper for me than UC Berkeley.
You get what you pay for. :)
Starters
C - Martin - $3.5m (estimated as "Super Two" arb)
1B - Loney - $500k (3rd year)
2B - Abreu - $400k (2nd year)
SS - Hu - $400k (rookie)
3B - LaRoche - $400k (2nd year)
LF - Ethier - $2.5m (estimated as "Super Two" arb)
CF - Andruw - $17.1m
RF - Kemp - $500k (3rd year)
Total Starters - $25.3m
Bench
OF - Pierre - $10m
OF - Repko - $1m (2nd year arb)
C - John Q. Backstop - $1m
1B - Mark Sweeney Type - $1m
IF - Lucille II Type - $1m
Total Bench - $14m
Starting Pitching
Penny - $9.25m (option picked up -- I've seen this reported as low as $8.75m)
Billingsley - $500k (3rd year)
Kuroda - $10m
Schmidt - $15.5m
Kuo - $500k (3rd year)
Total Starting Pitching - $37.75m
Bullpen
Saito - $6m (1st year arb eligible)
Broxton - $2m (1st year arb eligible)
Proctor - $2m (2nd year arb eligible)
Brazoban - $1.5m (2nd year arb eligible)
Meloan - $400k (2nd year)
Seanez Type - $1m
McDonald Type - $400k
Total Bullpen - $12.9m
Chaff
Nomar - $1.25m (part of deferred signing bonus)
Loaiza - $375k (optioni buyout)
Furcal - $4m (deferred signing bonus)
Total Chaff - $5.625m
Total 2009 Payroll (estimated) - $95.575m
The Dodgers could certainly afford Sabathia or extending Furcal, but it's not like we have a windfall of cash to spend.
Three people from my senior class got accepted to Stanford. I had a higher GPA and SAT scores than all of them.
Sadly, I was not an accomplished offensive lineman like one of my classmates. Nor was I good at women's basketball. Nor was I student body president.
Poll question No, 1: Part 1, Who of the following will be a GM first, Logan White, DeJon Watson or Kim Ng. Part 2, Who of the above-mentioned threesome is the most likely to be the Dodgers next GM?
Poll question No. 2: Should Kobe Bryant take his doctor's advice and adhere to management's wishes and have his surgery now?
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Whoever went to Stanford or any other top school had a better GPA and SAT score than me. My grades were good enough to get in to the local schools though for the one I attended, it took a personal interview to get past admissions.
I am NOT behind a deal like this, but a deal like that would have to be something like Loney and Penny for Texeria pending an extension.
Question One
Part 1: Logan White
Part 2: Logan White
Question Two
NO!
Lucille II - a Ramon Martinez aka veteran utility infield type.
CHAFF - are the contractual signing bonuses or buy outs.
#1: Part 1 - Kim Ng; Part 2 - Logan White
#2: No
I think I'd have a hard time convincing the wife to let me go to see practice baseball. If my children were older, it would be a family trip for spring break.
Jon, are you considering going?
Lowe is not under contract for 2009, nor does he have an option to be bought out.
But at least they got a good education for free.
I don't mean to sound all Alan Bakke.
Similarly, Ramon Martinez (utility infielder) is the second Ramon Martinez to play for the Dodgers (in recent memory anyway), the first being Pedro's older brother. Thusly, Ramon Martinez (utility infielder) has been bequeathed the nickname "Lucille II."
Chaff = trivial or worthless matter; extra stuff.
I did not apply to Stanford, but had a fun time at Berkeley with former high school classmates that Stanford rejected.
65 Apparently no one on the Dodger roster can send their kids to Stanford for free.
That would be awful times ten.
Ethier is no longer a kid. Rios or Wells wouldn't be much of an upgrade over him, and would cost more (in the case of Wells, ridiculously so); plus you give up the staff ace with a good contract for the next two seasons.
Also, my friend just linked me to this Fire Joe Morgan bit about Andre Ethier from two years ago, and it made me giggle. I'm sure most of you have seen it, but if not:
http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2006/08/best-ever.html
My son turns one on Saturday, cake with Mickey and Minnie.
That's the point. You don't trade Penny, unless it's for Sabathia.
Plus, we are set at 3rd through 2013! :)