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Up ... All ... Night
2008-04-18 00:42
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

It ain't just my baby cryin' ...

Colorado ..... 000 000 000 000 010 000 000 1 - 2 14 1
San Diego ... 000 000 000 000 010 000 000 0 - 1 11 2

Comments
2008-04-18 00:45:19
1.   trainwreck
I wish my cable company offered Extra Innings!

Gameday is pretty anti-dramatic.

2008-04-18 00:46:45
2.   Jon Weisman
My longest game in attendance was this one.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN199608030.shtml

Barely made it to the Hollywood Bowl in time.

2008-04-18 00:47:08
3.   berkowit28
21st now.
2008-04-18 00:47:18
4.   Bob Timmermann
Hey, we both can't have threads up for this.
2008-04-18 00:47:54
5.   fanerman
21!!
2008-04-18 00:48:44
6.   berkowit28
4 You're half an inning more up-to-date than Jon. For a few minutes.
2008-04-18 00:49:46
7.   berkowit28
"600th pitch of the ballgame" .. for those without mlb.tv or audio.
2008-04-18 00:50:05
8.   Greg Brock
When does Jeff Hamilton come in to pitch?
2008-04-18 00:50:19
9.   The Trolley Dodger
0 What's the equivalent of the scoreboard "picket fence" for rows of zeroes? Rings? Bubbles? Force field?
2008-04-18 00:52:53
10.   Jon Weisman
4 - Sorry - didn't see yours. I'll close mine.
2008-04-18 00:52:57
11.   fanerman
I really should go to bed, but I'm strangely drawn to this.
2008-04-18 00:53:02
12.   Underbruin
Wow... Top of the 21st. The 14th inning (where both teams scored) was apparently pretty crazy.
2008-04-18 00:53:40
13.   Bob Timmermann
10
Nah, let 'em both go.
2008-04-18 01:02:42
14.   fanerman
22!!!
2008-04-18 01:03:32
15.   Underbruin
The PVL of Jim Edmonds on display.
2008-04-18 01:09:00
16.   Underbruin
A question for those still here - you've got a pitcher throwing a perfect game. But your team is unable to score any runs. How many innings do you let him go before you pull him, even if he hasn't lost his perfect game?
2008-04-18 01:10:21
17.   Jon Weisman
16 - Just a matter of pitches and fatigue and health and the situation. There's no blanket answer.

Way to break out the errors, San Diego.

2008-04-18 01:10:31
18.   ibleedbloo
depends on pitcher and pitch count. ride him as long as possible
2008-04-18 01:11:01
19.   trainwreck
16
Depends on number of pitchers and K's etc, but 9 would be the limit for me.
2008-04-18 01:12:04
20.   fanerman
ROCKIES SCORE!!!
2008-04-18 01:13:47
21.   Underbruin
17 19 - Yeah, was just starting up some conversation in case this game was headed for, you know, 30-40 innings territory (if only =P).
2008-04-18 01:18:30
22.   Jon Weisman
So how do you save this game without a proven closer?
2008-04-18 01:18:51
23.   Underbruin
Clever comments from over at Ducksnorts:

"is it wise for maddux to be awake right now?"

"That's why they call it the senior circuit, boys and girls."

2008-04-18 01:22:46
24.   fanerman
That was exciting. I wish it kept going.
2008-04-18 01:35:21
25.   BruceR
12 In the 14th, old friend Glenn Hoffman signaled the not-so-fleet-footed McNaulty (sp?) to try and stretch a double to right into a triple w/ predictable results: Hawpe to Barmes to Atkins and McNaulty is out from me to you (thanks, Vin). Next batter softly singles to left. I'm thinking Hoffman just doesn't get it. Rockies announcers were flabbergasted and referred to Hoffman as one of the best 3B coaches in the business.
2008-04-18 01:43:47
26.   Benjamin Miracord
It's over already? Rats. I was looking forward to the 28th-inning stretch.
2008-04-18 01:47:40
27.   Eric Enders
This is tied for the longest game I've ever watched on television, with the Jeff Hamilton game.

I believe the longest game I've actually attended is this one -- a real heartbreaker. The Dodgers took the lead in the top of the 16th after Mondesi went from first to third on a sac bunt. Then they blew it in the bottom of the inning.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ARI/ARI199904130.shtml

2008-04-18 01:50:41
28.   Eric Enders
I have an issue with the 14th and 21st inning stretches.

Usually we stretch in the seventh inning of a nine-inning game, right? So why is the second stretch in the 14th? It should be nine innings after the first stretch -- the 16th. This is the seventh inning of the theoretical second nine-inning game.

Which means the third stretch should be in the 26th.

2008-04-18 01:56:10
29.   Eric Enders
Er, make that the 25th.
2008-04-18 02:35:43
30.   dzzrtRatt
Other NL West teams might be encouraged by both teams combining for 25 hits but only three runs, with the winning run scoring only because of two errors.

Wish we were playing one of these teams tomorrow.

2008-04-18 02:39:20
31.   Sagehen
Any game that wears down TWO Western Division foes has got to be a good thing.
2008-04-18 04:55:53
32.   D4P
End of season NL West records, according to Pythagoras:

AZ: 122-40
LA: 104-58
SD: 68-94
CO: 62-100
SF: 43-119

Yes, the Giants are on pace to finish 79 games out of first place.

2008-04-18 05:09:31
33.   D4P
SF's MLB rankings:

Runs/game: 30th
BA: 28th
OBP: 30th
SLG: 28th
OPS: 30th

And just for kicks:

Runs/game:
AZ: 6.2
SF: 3.1

OPS:
AZ: .848
SF: .636

2008-04-18 05:12:07
34.   Terry A
Tony Jackson's lead in his feature on Broxton:

"One hundred forty-five miles east of Atlanta is the city of Augusta, Ga., home to one of the world's most famous sporting venues. It is a place where legends are born in the Masters, as golf announcer Jim Nantz has so melodramatically pointed out on so many occasions over the years, with the previously little-known Trevor Immelman having become the latest Sunday."

Don't know why, but it reminds me of this:

"Strap yourselves in, folks, we're in for the night. Twelve rounds right here at Bally's Park Place. Just a stone's throw down the boardwalk from where a new Miss America was crowned just a few months ago. Miss Rochester, I believe it was."

Tony Jackson: The Cut Man.

2008-04-18 05:48:08
35.   Bluebleeder87
I like it that both NL West teams (SD & Rox) are gonna be feeling the sting of this games for a little while
2008-04-18 05:50:02
36.   D4P
Is there any research to show that teams typically struggle after really long games...?
2008-04-18 06:22:58
37.   Gen3Blue
On the EC, I fell asleep after watching Hoffman give up those two H bombs that would have gone out almost anywhere else(I think it was the ninth, Helton and Holiday).
Then I woke up during the 21st inning and watched the end.
2008-04-18 07:14:45
38.   Penarol1916
28. You could count it as every 7th inning of every nine inning set, or you could say that people want a stretch after every 7 consecutive innings and that usually just happens once a game.
2008-04-18 07:28:25
39.   JoeyP
Bard and Torreabla each caught all 22 innings.

Thats just ridiculous.

2008-04-18 08:06:32
40.   scareduck
Up all night
Ooh, stayin' up all night
2008-04-18 08:08:50
41.   Bluebleeder87
yeah, I wish some research would be done on the effects long games like last nights SD versus Rox
2008-04-18 08:10:56
42.   Bluebleeder87
40 :o)
2008-04-18 08:17:51
43.   Improbable88
34 From Jackson's article:

"While it's true Broxton has never dominated at the level he is now, it is hardly true that he has never dominated."

--Wha?!

2008-04-18 08:20:11
44.   Bob Timmermann
I guess the Japanese are considered to be very exotic in Chicago:
http://blogs.usatoday.com/gameon/2008/04/paper-says-t-sh.html
2008-04-18 08:27:36
45.   LogikReader
28

I used to think that also, Eric, but actually, the 14th inning stretch makes more sense.

The 7th inning isn't so much the "2/3rds" point in the game, it's just the amount of time you spend before MLB arbitrarily decided to get everybody to stand up for a while.

Logically, that means we should stretch every 7 innings, so the next stretch would be the 14th.

This very debate was on my mind when we did the 14th inning stretch "near the ravine" back in '02.

2008-04-18 08:29:08
46.   LogikReader
38 45

Penarol has it right on the nose, I missed his post before I made mine.

2008-04-18 08:31:01
47.   LogikReader
By the way, I believe two teams had 14th inning stretches last night. The Padres and the Mets. What surprised me was that the Mets didn't have the organist play the song... instead they used a classic recording of the song. How do other teams do it?
2008-04-18 08:31:11
48.   LogikReader
cycle!!!
2008-04-18 08:33:05
49.   Jacob Burch
Vin probably wouldn't have made it, but that was -almost- the ultimate deuces wild call.

a 1-2 count, two on, two outs, two runs on the board in the 22nd inning when the (eventual) winning run was scored

2008-04-18 08:37:28
50.   Jon Weisman
nput

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