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*$475,000 Chad Billingsley
*$415,000 Clayton Kershaw
*$405,000 Eric Stults
*$400,000 James McDonald
*Total: $11,695,000

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*$1,300,000 Scott Proctor
*$1,500,000 Jonathan Broxton
*$425,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
*$420,000 Cory Wade
*$410,000 Ramon Troncoso
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*$3,000,000 Russell Martin
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*$600,000 James Loney
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*$410,000 Blake DeWitt
*$400,000 Tony Abreu
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*$600,000 Jason Repko
*$410,000 Delwyn Young
*$400,000 Danny Ardoin
*$400,000 Chin-Lung Hu
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You Feel So Good to Me
2008-04-23 17:27
by Jon Weisman

Remember, we're gonna have fun tonight. Things go wrong, so all we're gonna do is enjoy the things that go right.

Diamondbacks at Dodgers, 7:10 p.m.

Update: According to Tony Jackson of the Daily News, the Dodgers may have decided that Hong-Chih Kuo is better suited for the warm-up-quick life of the bullpen ... after having previously decided that he was not as well-suited for that life (earlier this month) ... after having previously decided that he was (before Spring Training) ... after having previously decided that he wasn't (last year, before he got hurt) ... after having previously decided that he was (a year or two before that, right?).

See, isn't this fun?

Also, Yhency Brazoban is going to get a brief stop in AAA before possibly getting called up.

Update 2: Not quite yet for Brazoban.

Comments (491)
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2008-04-23 17:50:07
1.   underdog
Here here!

I shall only be watching it in the archives late tonight, so no spoilers! (Er, never mind.)

Hard to keep the faith at this moment but I am doing so anyway, Nomar in the clean-up spot or no!

2008-04-23 17:51:26
2.   Daniel Zappala
I am keeping the faith because Nomar is in the cleanup spot. Go Dodgers.
2008-04-23 17:51:32
3.   Kevin Lewis
From Wonder Years Chat:

I still feel Kevin being hung over Winnie and blowing it with Madeline was his undoing...his undoing I tell you!

2008-04-23 17:52:03
4.   Marty
Not me. I finally found a wobbly chair and I'm not going to let it go to waste.
2008-04-23 17:52:19
5.   Kevin Lewis
2

I said it before the start of the season... I would love for Nomar to have a great year. It's a win win for all

2008-04-23 17:52:43
6.   Marty
There's a Laker game on too, right?
2008-04-23 17:53:05
7.   Kevin Lewis
3

That should be "hung up on"

either way it is awkward

2008-04-23 17:53:37
8.   Bob Timmermann
Nuggets and Lakers tip off at 7:30 pm.
2008-04-23 17:54:07
9.   Kevin Lewis
The announcers on 13 just gave a promo for Flava Flave's show on UPN, and then they mocked the show along with Flava Flave
2008-04-23 17:56:13
10.   scareduck
Gonna wang chung tonight.
2008-04-23 17:56:43
11.   Daniel Zappala
8 PST.
2008-04-23 17:56:56
12.   Brent Knapp
Hey kevin, are u still trying to form a softball team? I'm looking to join a co ed one with my girlfriend but we are moving to playa del rey.
2008-04-23 17:57:29
13.   Bob Timmermann
11
No, PDT.
2008-04-23 17:59:49
14.   Jon Weisman
Kuo and Brazoban news above.
2008-04-23 18:01:33
15.   scareduck
2 - since this may have been left behind in the prior thread, this is aimed for Daniel Zappala -- I have much of the configuration you mention but am not seeing the usual MediaPlayerConnectivity icons.

Others have reported success with a new Python script but that seems to come with additional downloading behind the scenes which I am so far unwilling to do.

2008-04-23 18:03:19
16.   Bob Timmermann
I don't comment on Kuo's effectiveness anymore.
2008-04-23 18:03:31
17.   underdog
2 / 5 - I will have nothing but happy feelings if Nomar shows he can still hit, but I a) don't have as much faith that he can still field consistently; b) don't have much faith he can still hit as an every day starter (don't doubt that he'll get his share of hits here and there); and c) have serious doubts about him batting clean-up. But as I said, I'll be happy if he rakes tonight. Hope he does well in the month or so he'll be starting before Andy LaRoche takes over for him.
2008-04-23 18:04:30
18.   Marty
I want to know about Juan Castro.
2008-04-23 18:04:38
19.   underdog
Darnit, I'm missing the Lakers and Dodgers games live, both of 'em. Bless you Tivo and MLBTV archives. Cheers, all.
2008-04-23 18:05:55
20.   Suffering Bruin
I'm with you, gracious host. No matter what, this commenter will accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative, latch on to the affirmative, and I ain't messin' with Mr. In-Between.

Go Dodgers! Go life! UP with people!!!

2008-04-23 18:06:39
21.   Kevin Lewis
12

I am, but at this point it is going to be an all men's team in Pasadena (I just don't know any other women that want to play)

17

I can agree with everything you said.

2008-04-23 18:08:54
22.   D4P
I want to know about Juan Castro

His career OPS+ is lower than Gary Bennett's.

2008-04-23 18:10:30
23.   Bob Hendley
Go Bums! Let's start reeling in these D-Backs.
2008-04-23 18:10:46
24.   Hallux Valgus
22- that's because he's not a cheater cheater pumpkin eater.
2008-04-23 18:10:55
25.   Ken Noe
I'm feeling so good, I wrote a song:

Proctor, Proctor, give me the news
I got a bad case of using you
No runs are gonna cure my fun
I got a bad case of using you

2008-04-23 18:11:03
26.   Bob Timmermann
19
The MLB.tv archives are just a fairy story they tell little kids when they want to scare them into becoming economists.
2008-04-23 18:12:01
27.   Marty
I'm surprised no one has done a My Kuroda song yet.
2008-04-23 18:12:19
28.   Brent Knapp
21 . Ok, I play in a fun fast pitch league in san pedro on sundays. We practice sometimes on saturdays or friday early evening. Let me know if you would be interested in playing with us. You might remember chris hernandez, he just joined our team to be a third arm.
2008-04-23 18:14:43
29.   Daniel Zappala
15 Sent you email earlier.
2008-04-23 18:15:01
30.   D4P
I'm surprised no one has done a My Kuroda song yet

Too obvious. I'd go with something by Scandal.

2008-04-23 18:16:13
31.   LAT
I would rather see Kuo blow a game in the 4th or 5th inning than Loaiza blow it in the 1st or 2nd.
2008-04-23 18:18:17
32.   whodat807
What, one bad start by Kuo and all of a sudden he can't start?
2008-04-23 18:21:03
33.   Ken Noe
27 I did when we signed him--can't remember it though.
2008-04-23 18:21:45
34.   Linkmeister
Pre-game DVD player question:

I've got a cheapie in the kitchen that was given to us a few Christmases ago. It's rarely used, but I had an urge to put "The Last Waltz" in the other night and watch it.

I hit the power button and tried to open the tray (both with the remote and, when that didn't work) with the button on the front of this Coby machine. All I got was a whir and a moan of what almost sounded like disgust.

Any idea how to get the tray open? There's no nifty hole like there used to be for diskette drives and paper clips.

2008-04-23 18:24:57
35.   Bob Timmermann
Can you unplug the machine? If so hold it sideways.

Shake it really hard.

This has actually worked for me.

2008-04-23 18:27:26
36.   Bluebleeder87
Also, Yhency Brazoban is going to get a brief stop in AAA before possibly getting called up.

See which one sticks I guess, if anything it will be nostalgic watching him pitch at DS.

2008-04-23 18:28:50
37.   D4P
From Tony Jackson:

Torre said that way back when he first started managing 30 years ago and he wanted to get a slumping hitter going, he would bat him leadoff. He then said he wasn't willing to take Furcal OUT of the leadoff spot, so he batted Andruw second instead of first.

2008-04-23 18:33:43
38.   Brent Knapp
Two questions: has anyone ever heard of a contract where a players salary decreases towards the end of his contract? For those contracts that expire as a player approaches or exceeds 40 or so you'd think someone would try to get a player to sign a contract in which his salary decreases as he will most likely will become much worse. Even after 3-5% inflation some players last years are disasters.
Secondly, people love to complain about non-guaranteed contracts of the NFL. As far as I understand, its the media's fault for reporting optional years as part of a contract. In baseball, if a player signs a 8 million $ contract with an option but a 1 million $ buy out the media would say it is a one year 9 million $ contract with an option. In football they would write a two year 16 million $ contract and then later in the article write ' nine million of which is guaranteed'. I'm on a blackberry stuck in an airport for 3 more hours, my hands hurt from typing.
2008-04-23 18:34:26
39.   Bluebleeder87
Call it dumb faith but I really think we're gonna whale off of Haren tonight (he probably has family looking on cause he's from my neck of the woods MONTEREY PARK) I'm hoping he gets the jitter bugs cause he's a home town kid, LATES WHALE OFF OF HIM!
2008-04-23 18:35:57
40.   Eric Stephen
37
Sticking with the positivity theme, Andruw's extra PA will give the Dodgers the win tonight!
2008-04-23 18:36:11
41.   Zak
37 The theme of the Dodgers season so far... first you do a flip, then you do a flop and then you do a flip followed by a flop. Kuo's role, Jones' place in the batting lineup, reasons on where Nomar should bat, Juan Pierre - the bench player, and on and on. I don't even remember there being so many flip flops over decisions and reasons that are not even weeks old. Torre and Colletti need to stop listening to what the gnome is saying.
2008-04-23 18:37:07
42.   Bob Timmermann
37
He ain't lying!

On April 26, 1978, Mets cleanup hitter Steve Henderson was batting .167. Torre batted him leadoff against the Reds, who started Fred Norman. Henderson went 1 for 4.

2008-04-23 18:38:45
43.   Bob Timmermann
38
I can't imagine an agent agreeing to a deal like that. From what I know of present value and future value, that seems like a losing deal.
2008-04-23 18:39:08
44.   D4P
42
An 83-point jump in one's batting average is nothing to sneeze at.
2008-04-23 18:42:27
45.   Linkmeister
I'll give the brute force method a try, Bob.
2008-04-23 18:43:54
46.   Hallux Valgus
38 That's not really true. In the NFL, only your signing bonus is guaranteed. Technically, everything after that is an "option" year.

Roster bonuses and workout bonuses are often reported as "guaranteed" money, but they only get paid if their on the roster.

Also, agents are usually the people who report the contract terms, and do so with the information that makes their work appear in th most positive light.

2008-04-23 18:45:55
47.   Jimi Shelter
The guys from Ozomatli are cracking me up on Dodgers Live.
2008-04-23 18:46:03
48.   68elcamino427
Maybe it's time for the old Billy Martin trick when things aren't going well.
Pick the line up out of a hat.
2008-04-23 18:47:57
49.   Hallux Valgus
43 why? isn't it more beneficial to get money now and have the chance to invest it, rather than defer and wait for inevitable inflation? Say, a 3 year/ 24 mil contract at 12/7/5 seems a lot more appealing than 8/8/8 because you're getting th dollars at today's rate, rather than the future rate, and you can earn interest off of it now. And for teams, it makes them more tradeable later.

I know the NBA is starting to do more of that.

2008-04-23 18:50:40
50.   Bob Timmermann
49
But the scenario described would have paid a significantly lower amount as the player aged. And it wouldn't have kept up with inflation.

I will also add that I will also glad you trade you a hamburger today for one next week. I really shouldn't have taken my econ classes from Wimpy.

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2008-04-23 18:51:52
51.   Brent Knapp
46 . So are u saying that this years first pick is getting a 30 million dollar signing bonus?
And if its up to the agents to report the numbers how come baseball agents seem to get more accurate information out? I can't imagine that baseball agents are simply more honest and forthright.
2008-04-23 18:52:27
52.   Bluebleeder87
Man, you know what, that Upton dude has a really REALLY nice swing...
2008-04-23 18:58:05
53.   Hallux Valgus
50 Even if the total value of the contact remains the same? I'm not suggesting you value a player as an 12 mil. player right now and then pay him 12 then 7 then 5. I'm saying you value him as an $8 mil. player and front load the contract as an incentive to sign. I thought that was the idea behind signing bonuses (and the lottery payout). I'd rather take 23 million right now and then 500k in each of the next two years than even it out.

The only downside I see is that the team is losing money based on interest/ inflation.

2008-04-23 18:58:31
54.   Brent Knapp
I totally understand from a players perspectoive why they wouldn't like it. I'm just surprised I've never heard of a team trying it. Obviously, a-rod is not going to be worth close to 30 $ million when he's 41 or 42, I guess its just something that comes with being a 20 year veteran.
2008-04-23 18:58:50
55.   Daniel Zappala
Angels win! In Boston!
2008-04-23 18:59:07
56.   Bluebleeder87
Here is the latest on Dan Haren >>>D-backs: Haren has been outstanding since coming over in a trade from the A's during the offseason. The right-hander is 3-0, but he could easily be 4-0 if the D-backs bullpen had held onto a lead in the season's second game. In his last outing, Haren tossed seven shutout innings in a 9-0 win over the Padres. The D-backs have provided Haren with early run support as they've scored 11 times in the first inning over his last three starts.

Trying to look for some Dodger positives.

2008-04-23 19:00:40
57.   Dodgers49
From previous thread:

1 If the Dodgers ever did need to replace Dodger Stadium, they could gut it and rebuild it in place, and just play in Anaheim Stadium that year.

The Los Angeles Dodgers of Anaheim. What an idea. :-)

2008-04-23 19:01:41
58.   Hallux Valgus
51 Baseball agents aren't more forthright, their numbers are just more concrete. Football is a lot more nebulous. There aren't too many different ways to report a baseball contract (for example, I've seen the Nate Clements contract reported about 20 different ways).

And Jake Long isn't getting a 30 mil signing bonus, but he's probably getting a huge signing bonus (which can be spread out over the length of the contract) and a big 1st year salary, and a roster bonus in the second year... and that's considered "guaranteed" because there's virtually no chance he'll get cut in that time frame.

2008-04-23 19:02:09
59.   Brent Knapp
53 I thought the point of signing bonuses was.to get around salary caps.
2008-04-23 19:02:55
60.   scareduck
55 - I had to rub my eyes when I saw it, too.
2008-04-23 19:09:51
61.   Bob Timmermann
1 down, 26 to go!
2008-04-23 19:10:38
62.   Bluebleeder87
Here are some D-Backs with good #"s against our boys in Blue:

Orlando Hudson
AB 11
Hits 3
OBP 385

Eric Byrnes
AB 13
Hits 6
OBP 533
BA 462

Justin Upton
AB 10
Hits 5
OBP 538
BA 500

Mark Reynolds
AB 13
Hits 4
Dingers 3 (yikes!)
slg 1.000

__________________________________-

I think Mark Reynolds gets over looked by our pitching staff IMO cause he has glaring holes in his swing yet he handles Dodger pitching very well (pitch him up & in or middle in!!) we'll see how the Dodgers pitch him tonight.

2008-04-23 19:12:15
63.   scareduck
So far all the fun belongs to the Snakes.
2008-04-23 19:12:25
64.   Bob Timmermann
Kemp has high socks tonight. But they're not stirrupy.
2008-04-23 19:12:43
65.   Sam in SC
that was a mighty fine throw back into the infield by andruw.
2008-04-23 19:12:55
66.   Bluebleeder87
Orlando Hudson grabs Russell Martin in the head (Russell Martin looked kind of annoyed by that) what was that all about?
2008-04-23 19:14:50
67.   Ken Noe
66 Hudson heard about rubbing the troll. Which reminds me, the troll better be there tonight.
2008-04-23 19:15:34
69.   scareduck
67 - Gnome, gnome!
2008-04-23 19:15:44
70.   Xeifrank
I'm disappointed that they might move Guo out of the rotation after only a couple of starts, of which only one was very bad and he had some bad luck in it. But I must admit, I was surprised that he was put in the rotation that quickly. He never got a chance to build up his arm strength and have a long pitch count. Oh well, fits perfectly with the start of the season that we've had.
vr, Xei
2008-04-23 19:15:48
71.   Bluebleeder87
Bullet by Furcal, yes!!
2008-04-23 19:16:09
72.   Hallux Valgus
If Furcal keeps this up, I'm going to get some very unrealistic expectations.
2008-04-23 19:16:14
73.   Gen3Blue
One thing about A. Jones. I've never seen him break the wrong way, or even hesitate, since he's been here. He makes fielding look so easy.
2008-04-23 19:17:44
74.   El Lay Dave
Furcal now hitting .405. I don't think Ted Williams is worried.
2008-04-23 19:18:15
75.   Ken Noe
69 I stand humbly corrected.
2008-04-23 19:22:08
76.   MollyKnight
I worry because most Dodgers have never faced Haren. Though he doesn't look THAT sharp tonight.
2008-04-23 19:22:33
77.   Bluebleeder87
one man wrecking crew in Furcal, I like the gutsy move by our shortstop, nice.
2008-04-23 19:23:28
78.   Sam in SC
76 haren beat LA when they were in Az earlier this month, I thought.
2008-04-23 19:23:36
79.   Gen3Blue
You know, it has the inevitable feeling of watching Haren be invulnerable, and Lowe eventually messing up. But I guess there is always a chance that Haren will blow up some time. Good for Furcal. And he's throwing some pitches.
2008-04-23 19:23:57
80.   Hallux Valgus
Due to a glitch in my rotowire auction league, 2 teams were awarded Furcal. I just had him taken from me today. I am not happy at all right now.
2008-04-23 19:24:16
81.   scareduck
Gnome-ar! Gnome-ar!
2008-04-23 19:24:34
82.   Hallux Valgus
Garciaparra is so clutchtastic. What a great move by Torre.
2008-04-23 19:24:40
83.   Bluebleeder87
Furcal stole 3rd but I'm sure he could have scored from 2nd base right guys...
2008-04-23 19:25:11
84.   El Lay Dave
Amazing.
2008-04-23 19:26:30
85.   Hallux Valgus
alright, Haren's control is definitely off right now. Pounce, boys. POUNCE!
2008-04-23 19:26:37
86.   Bob Timmermann
If Furcal couldn't have scored from 2nd with two outs on Nomar's single, then you would want to check to see if Lee Harvey Oswald is in the house.
2008-04-23 19:26:40
87.   Bluebleeder87
It feels so Loney when you ain't hitting.
2008-04-23 19:27:09
88.   scareduck
76 - Career .275/.302/.471 against the Dodgers, though that was years ago when he was with St. Louis and represents only three games.

http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/NUBP

2008-04-23 19:27:36
89.   StolenMonkey86
83 - my fantasy team thanks Furcal anyway
2008-04-23 19:27:46
90.   El Lay Dave
78 You're right.

The Dodgers don't have much experience with Haren though.

http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/EtAD

2008-04-23 19:28:30
91.   scareduck
Pasta diving Jackson.
2008-04-23 19:28:37
92.   scareduck
2-0 Dodgers.
2008-04-23 19:28:51
93.   Hallux Valgus
but Loney is the clutchiest!
2008-04-23 19:29:20
94.   El Lay Dave
Tex!
2008-04-23 19:29:37
95.   scareduck
Haren usually doesn't start to implode until the 6th inning. Interesting.

http://tinyurl.com/4yuaw3

2008-04-23 19:29:51
96.   Bluebleeder87
Sorry we had to screw things up (with your family being here & all) but we need a W bad!
2008-04-23 19:29:55
97.   Bob Hendley
Loney swings it like a kaiser blade!
2008-04-23 19:30:32
98.   Hallux Valgus
Those are definitely stirrups.
2008-04-23 19:30:58
99.   Bob Timmermann
Kemp really should have aimed for Jose Cruz Jr. style socks and not Brad Penny style socks. The latter make his legs look funny.
2008-04-23 19:31:31
100.   Bob Timmermann
Wait, I just noticed that Kemp does have the socks sort of right.
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2008-04-23 19:31:40
101.   Bluebleeder87
conspiracy I tell you! The Bison gets no love from the umps man!
2008-04-23 19:31:48
102.   ucladodger
Umpires seriously hate Kemp.
2008-04-23 19:32:02
103.   Icaros
Why do umps hate Kemp?
2008-04-23 19:32:31
104.   Hallux Valgus
99 agreed.

That was definitely a swing, but jeez- those are strong wrists. Piazza/ Sheffield level strong.

2008-04-23 19:33:08
105.   Eric Stephen
Were the Dodgers 2 for 3 with RISP that inning? Did Furcal steal 2nd with Nomar up or was it Ethier?
2008-04-23 19:33:33
106.   ucladodger
101 , 103

Its really gone on his whole career. It gets me all riled up and frustrated, i cant imagine what it does to him. It also cant help his approach at the plate, knowing that he cant rely on the umpires to do their job.

2008-04-23 19:33:52
107.   Hallux Valgus
105 Furcal. then he stole 3rd.
2008-04-23 19:33:56
108.   El Lay Dave
105 Yes twice.
2008-04-23 19:35:00
109.   StolenMonkey86
105 - Furcal stole both 2nd and 3rd during Nomar's AB.
2008-04-23 19:35:54
110.   Bluebleeder87
Scouts have the golden touch cause I don't think I would have Inked Reynolds in a million years with that ugly swing of his... but I guess they saw the massive power though.
2008-04-23 19:36:03
111.   StolenMonkey86
hey, I didn't know Hu's birthday was on groundhog day
2008-04-23 19:38:32
112.   Sam in SC
'tis sometimes better to be lucky than good.
2008-04-23 19:38:34
113.   Hallux Valgus
oh lord. I just saw an ad for What Happens In Vegas. Don't see it. Also, don't see Deception, which opens this weekend. It is crap. I'm sure this is very obvious.
2008-04-23 19:38:58
114.   Bluebleeder87
Looks like the baseball gods are finally coming around, with plays like that, you gotta think luck is finally coming our way.
2008-04-23 19:40:06
115.   El Lay Dave
23 pitches for Lowe in 2 IP. 30 in 1 for Haren.
2008-04-23 19:42:53
116.   scareduck
87 - seven is the Loney-st number.
2008-04-23 19:42:57
117.   Bluebleeder87
woah, Haren has a nice splitty cause Hu swang at a pitch that bounced a few feet from home plate.
2008-04-23 19:43:06
118.   StolenMonkey86
that slider in the dirt must be really tempting
2008-04-23 19:43:13
119.   Hallux Valgus
Vin just said that Hu, Dewitt, and Young are wasting away on the bench

I also love Derek Lowe's choice of at bat song

2008-04-23 19:43:57
120.   StolenMonkey86
what is Lowe's AB song? Gameday isn't playing it.
2008-04-23 19:45:21
121.   Hallux Valgus
120 It's a hip hop song called Low by Flo-rida. It's funny because there's no way that Derek actually chose it.
2008-04-23 19:45:49
122.   Longhorn Bill
"Low" by Florida
2008-04-23 19:46:24
123.   Longhorn Bill
121 haha absolutely not
2008-04-23 19:46:48