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A Baseball Life Cycle
2008-04-25 11:02
by Jon Weisman

In a guest column for the New York Times (found via Baseball Musings), former major leaguer Doug Glanville writes about baseball's circle of life.

In theory, I had come to the Yankees ready to play ball "from Day One." The idea that my history didn't give me the benefit of the doubt was disconcerting. Because there was this younger kid, who played a little better than I did that spring and who would certainly be less expensive. I'd had a bad week, and he'd had a good week, and that made all the difference.

I understood that I was now entrenched on the other side of the bell curve. I was sliding downward into the "long in the tooth" spiked pit. My competition's relatively minimal major league experience had become more valuable, in a way, than my library of experience. Somehow I had missed the transition point in my career where my value to a team had intersected with the value of a new kid on the block.

There was a time in Philadelphia when, as a young player, I had replaced the veteran Lenny Dykstra as the new center fielder in town, much to the dismay of the Philly faithful. But I felt I had plenty to offer. Maybe I wasn't as wise as Lenny in terms of game experience, but I thought I made up for it with enthusiasm, newness and energy.

So I understand the cycle. ...

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2008-04-25 11:17:25
1.   Linkmeister
Notice links in the sidebar to the previous two columns, and notice he'll be writing these all season.

What I see are parallels to "real life." Those of us past 45 are often told while hunting for employment that we're "overqualified," usually code for "too expensive when we can find a 25-year-old to do the same work for half the salary."

2008-04-25 11:17:49
2.   Eric Stephen
Maybe "Doug Glanville" is secretly a pen name for Luis Gonzalez.
2008-04-25 11:20:25
3.   Gen3Blue
1 Very much a real life parallel, but a tough one, when you may reach that moment at age 32.
2008-04-25 11:27:33
4.   blue22
3 - Glanville had earned $11M in the bigs by the time he reached that moment though, thus effectively ending the real life parallel.

I would hope that Glanville never has to work another day in his life. Early retirement isn't such a bad thing.

2008-04-25 11:33:23
5.   Marty
I like this from his first column:

Everyone who makes it to big league camp was a baseball legend at some point in his life. It was big fish from big and small ponds thrust into the biggest pond of their lives, most of us just trying to find some plankton of an opportunity in the last slot of a 25-man team.

I had sparkling college All-America and first-round draft pick credentials, but I found out pretty quickly that I didn't have any idea how to approach a major league curve ball.

2008-04-25 11:40:17
6.   Jon Weisman
Was there someone in the comments last night who said they knew Cory Wade, or did I misread that?
2008-04-25 11:40:37
7.   Kevin Lewis
I wonder how long it took for him to admit that he "understands the cycle".

That would be a really hard thing to swallow.

2008-04-25 11:40:59
8.   Marty
Florida getting it's priorities straight (if you have a very strict company, may not be safe for work):

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN4O32105020080424

2008-04-25 11:41:49
9.   Xeifrank
1. It would be nice if those principles applied to not only the "worker bees" but management too. vr, Xei
2008-04-25 11:48:09
10.   Eric Stephen
6
Jon, JoeyP said he read on another message board that one of the commenters there knew Wade personally and knew in advance that he would be called up.
2008-04-25 11:48:52
11.   Eric Stephen
Wes Parker was the last Dodger to understand the cycle.
2008-04-25 11:52:23
12.   Bluebleeder87
for second there I thought he was our Glanville
2008-04-25 11:53:54
13.   Xeifrank
Does Bob have a color alert scheme for the "Baseball Life Cycle" as he does "Hitting For The Cycle"?
vr, Xei
2008-04-25 11:58:14
14.   Eric Stephen
13
I think Ray King is at red alert status. :)
2008-04-25 12:28:44
15.   blue22
Since when is TrueBlueLA getting nearly 200 comments for game chats?

And to think, I was reading Andrew back when he was at DFP. He's all grows up now! :)

2008-04-25 12:34:53
16.   underdog
Can someone possibly fast-forward/flash forward like they do on "Lost" and tell me if the Dodgers win this weekend's series with the Rockies? I just want to know if I should invest any time or emotions in it, or just ignore it altogether.
2008-04-25 12:38:42
17.   Bluebleeder87
if you believe in gut feeling then I think you should invest in the blue this weekend
2008-04-25 12:44:12
18.   underdog
I believe! I believe.

They're not on Fox nationally tomorrow right? That's usually a guaranteed loss, so that's one thing in our favor right there.

2008-04-25 12:44:46
19.   Scanman33
Colletti finds Glanville's experience and leadership very intriguing...
2008-04-25 12:54:19
20.   Eric Stephen
16
In 1998, Chan Ho Park told Todd Helton he would face him once more, against all odds, on Sunday, April 26, 2008.

Helton didn't believe him and told him to get out of his flat, but Park wouldn't leave until Helton agreed to meet him on that future date.

If you see blood coming out of Park's nose this weekend, don't say I didn't warn you.

2008-04-25 12:54:53
21.   Eric Stephen
20
Sunday, April 27, 2008
2008-04-25 13:05:12
22.   Eric Enders
Sample size warning, obviously, but so far this year, Matt Kemp is batting:

.333 on curveballs
.364 on sliders
.500 on changeups
.500 on splitters
.103 on fastballs

http://baseball.bornbybits.com/2008/batters/Matt_Kemp.html

2008-04-25 13:06:04
23.   Xeifrank
22. Interesting. Can you list the breakdown on pitches that he struck out on, just out of curiousity? vr, Xei
2008-04-25 13:10:16
24.   Eric Enders
23 It doesn't have that info, but if you click on the link you can see the location of all his swings and misses by pitch type.

Andruw Jones, incidentally, is batting .000 on curveballs, .000 on sliders, and .212 on fastballs.

2008-04-25 13:28:19
25.   Andrew Shimmin
Assuming the charts are right, it looks like he's getting about as many bad calls in his favor, as going the other way.
2008-04-25 13:29:05
26.   Bluebleeder87
22 shocking... For me at least
2008-04-25 13:29:18
27.   Bluebleeder87
22 shocking... For me at least
2008-04-25 13:30:58
28.   scareduck
8 - it's nuttin', honey.
2008-04-25 13:48:36
29.   was it tims mitt i saw
21

Todd Helton - "Your fastball is mine, Chan Ho. It always was. It will be again"
Chan Ho Park - "But you'll never hit it."
Todd Helton - "I suppose the game is on for the both of us."
Chan Ho Park - "I suppose it is. Sleep tight, Todd."

Cue creepy music

2008-04-25 13:49:35
30.   Robert Fiore
Glanville reminds me of Jack Elam's summary of the stages of a Hollywood career:

"Who's Jack Elam?"
"We could do it cheaper if we got Jack Elam."
"Get me Jack Elam!"
"Get me a Jack Elam type!"
"Who's Jack Elam?"

2008-04-25 13:50:09
31.   Eric Stephen
So now Troy from West Virginia is sending autographed pictures of himself to the Dodgers?

http://tinyurl.com/5o3wnp

I would probably watch a "Beyond the Glory" type documentary of Troy.

2008-04-25 13:51:43
32.   Eric Stephen
29
Awesome screen name. One of the better palindromes ever.

My favorite palindrome of all-time is "Lisa Bonet ate no basil."

2008-04-25 13:52:12
33.   Kevin Lewis
I don't know if I should take this somewhere else, but I thought LOST was awesome last night. Watched the last half again at lunch, and I liked it even more.

31

So, when does this reach the "restraining order" phase ?

2008-04-25 13:55:23
34.   Kevin Lewis
31

It would be awesome if Beimel would do a youtube video pretending to be Troy

2008-04-25 14:01:06
35.   Eric Stephen
34
This was close, with one of Beimel's friends as Troy-like, and Beimel himself appeared at the end.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tsahZaLHjSo

2008-04-25 14:03:57
36.   underdog
33 http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/964473.html

I thought it was a great episode, too.

2008-04-25 14:05:55
37.   Jon Weisman
I haven't watched Lost yet, so normally this would be okay, but I'll entreat you to keep the discussion down in last night's chat thread.
2008-04-25 14:07:09
38.   underdog
37 I still can't believe they killed all the characters off in one fell swoop like that! Wonder how they'll fill in the rest of the episodes...

Ooops! Sorry! Forget I said anything.

35 That Beimel video is hilarious, seems like he was having a good time with the whole idea.

2008-04-25 14:10:35
39.   Kevin Lewis
37

No problem. That is why I kept my comment as a general statement.

2008-04-25 14:19:43
40.   kinbote
32 Able was I ere I saw Elba.
2008-04-25 14:22:37
41.   Ghost of Carlos Perez
Gagne, I made Damien gag.
2008-04-25 14:22:57
42.   trainwreck
38
And what about Danica McKellar coming out of nowhere to teach the smoke monster that math is fun.
2008-04-25 14:24:10
43.   Bluebleeder87
I was in the same elevator as Beimel once (2 years ago)
2008-04-25 14:27:07
44.   trainwreck
ESPN is making a big deal that Josh Howard partakes in the Yoda in the off-season.

I am shocked that a NBA player would partake in the Yoda.

2008-04-25 14:27:26
45.   kinbote
Bavasi's antagonizing M's fans again, re-signing an unproductive veteran catcher while Clement languishes in AAA.
2008-04-25 14:33:22
46.   Kevin Lewis
35

That is a great video and the comments are funny. Joe apparently addresses Troy in the comments. I gotta say, i don't know if I would recognize Joe on the street...he looks like a rock star.

2008-04-25 14:36:39
47.   underdog
44 Grave danger you are in. Impatient you are, Howard.
2008-04-25 14:39:52
48.   Marty
I'm under the impression that Troy from West Virgina is the same guy as our own scamp Blue Tahoe.
2008-04-25 14:41:04
49.   Bluebleeder87
I was like mah what ever
2008-04-25 14:57:26
50.   Bill Crain
48
I really hope that's true. It fits with my conception of the universe.
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2008-04-25 15:01:43
51.   Jon Weisman
It's Rick Mon-Day:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/April_25

I like the Buckner one on this list.

2008-04-25 15:05:58
52.   ucladodger
22

Thats actually what i expected with Kemp. His big problem this year is his tardiness on fastballs. Often he swings through them, and he hasnt made solid contact all year. Does anyone remember the last time he pulled a fastball, or even made solid contact against one? People make way too big of a deal about his hitting of breaking pitches, as he usually does hammer the "hangers", which is what good hitters do. If he can hit good fastballs like he did last year and still hit the breaking ball, he'll be a handful.

2008-04-25 15:12:26
53.   Eric Stephen
Standings End of Day 9/17/07
Arizona 84-67, ---
San Diego 82-67, 1 GB (Wild Card lead)
Dodgers 79-70, 4 GB
Rockies 77-72, 6 GB

The Dodgers then traveled to Colorado for a 4-game set with the Rockies, and would face them (and lose to them) seven times over the next 10 days. Of course, the Rockies' ascension into the playoffs, and ultimately the World Series, seemed to come at the direct and almost sole expense of the Dodgers (although the Padres might share some grief).

Tonight begins the cleansing process, a payback of sorts for 2007.

And what the hell, why not also throw the angst of Larry Walker owning one of Mike Piazza's two MVP awards (1997) into the mix.

Also, purple is predominately featured in the Rockies' uniforms. Barney the dinosaur is purple. Need I say more?

2008-04-25 15:15:44
54.   D4P
Purple is predominantly featured in the Lakers' uniforms...
2008-04-25 15:17:24
55.   Eric Stephen
54
That's a low blow, man. :)
2008-04-25 15:19:29
56.   Marty
54 Not if I had any say about it.
2008-04-25 15:25:21
57.   Icaros
So Marty wants to tear down Dodger Stadium and take purple out of the Lakers uniforms. What a nut.
2008-04-25 15:27:41
58.   D4P
57
And he never went to college.
2008-04-25 15:29:18
59.   Kevin Lewis
Oh, I too would be in favor of a stadium downtown.
2008-04-25 15:35:53
60.   Marty
You're a smart boy, D4P. But I know how to take care of smart boys, you smart college guys! I've been seeing your kind around since I was ten years old... working as a busboy. "Oh busboy, it seems my friend has thrown up on the table. Clean up that mess, boy, will'ya?" And then when I went to sea as a steward... people poking at you with umbrellas. "Oh, boy!", "You, boy!", "Careful with that luggage, boy!" And I took it. I took it for years! But I don't have to take it any more.
2008-04-25 15:41:32
61.   Jim Hitchcock
60 Marty sounds like he's on the edge of taking his gun to work.
2008-04-25 15:43:28
62.   underdog
It's gonna happen to you. It's gonna happen to you! What are you gonna do if Marty gets married? Huh? What are you gonna cook? Where's all the children playing in all the rooms? Where's the noise? It's a curse to be a widow, a curse! What are you gonna do if Marty gets married? What are you gonna do?
2008-04-25 15:44:15
63.   heato
Per Diamond:

Furcal, SS
Jones, CF
Garciaparra, 3B
Kent, 2B
Loney, 1B
Martin, C
Ethier, RF
Pierre, LF
Kuroda, P

2008-04-25 15:44:25
64.   Brent Knapp
I have four reserve level tickets for tonite's game - Joe Torre Bobble head - they are section 43 row H - is anyone interested in them? All I ask is for the face value, not including the $4-5 ticket charge - $20 a piece. Anyone interested?
2008-04-25 15:45:46
65.   regfairfield
54 I thought that was "forum blue".
2008-04-25 15:46:17
66.   D4P
What did Joe Torre do to get his head bobbled...?
2008-04-25 15:51:47
67.   Icaros
63

So it goes...

2008-04-25 15:55:36
68.   fanerman
Ellipses are Dodger Thoughts favorite form of punctuation...
2008-04-25 15:56:12
69.   Eric Enders
Tonight is the Dodgers' 23rd game and Torre's 23rd different batting order.

Repetition watch is on! We should try to guess the date of the first repeat lineup. I'll go with July 23.

2008-04-25 15:56:26
70.   fanerman
68 Obviously the apostrophe is not as highly regarded...
2008-04-25 15:59:38
71.   Jim Hitchcock
68 My all time favorite computer was my Amiga 3000. It would speak any words (and sound like Stephen Hawking in doing so) after the `say' command.

If you put ellipses at the end of a sentence, it would finish the sentence `and so on, and so on...'. That always cracked me up.

2008-04-25 16:00:44
72.   D4P
71
My friend's mother was disabled, and used an Amiga to speak.
2008-04-25 16:01:39
73.   Eric Enders
Last year the Dodgers had their first repeat batting order on April 21. (Furcal-SS Pierre-CF Garciaparra-1B Kent-2B Gonzalez-LF Martin-C Ethier-RF Betemit-3B Penny-P)

For those scoring at home, we beat Pittsburgh on the Golden God's walk-off grand slam.

2008-04-25 16:02:08
74.   Ricardo
Found it on SI:

"Folks in his own clubhouse are starting to question how much Andruw Jones (.159, 25 K's in 69 at-bats) has left, not a good sign at all."

2008-04-25 16:03:54
75.   Xeifrank
69. July 23rd? of this year??
vr, Xei
2008-04-25 16:04:55
76.   StolenMonkey86
66 - I don't know, but is the lineup of bobbleheads is subject to change?
2008-04-25 16:05:00
77.   silverwidow
These recent lineups suck. I mean, seriously, Ethier 7th? He's the best hitter on the team.
2008-04-25 16:05:05
78.   Jim Hitchcock
71 That's awesome!
2008-04-25 16:05:15
79.   D4P
I don't "get" thinking that Nomar is our best hitter.
2008-04-25 16:07:23
80.   Xeifrank
79. Who thinks Nomar is our best hitter?
vr, Xei
2008-04-25 16:07:33
81.   StolenMonkey86
79 - I don't get Andruw in the 2, Pierre over Kemp today, or the way Joe Torre handles the bullpen.
2008-04-25 16:09:01
82.   D4P
This marks the 5th game in a row that Nomar has hit 3rd or 4th in the lineup. Amazing that a guy whose turned-into-nothing-but-a-singles-hitter-ness should relegate him to the bench is instead revered by Management because batting him 3rd or 4th means that his occasional single will likely drive in a run here and there.
2008-04-25 16:10:38
83.   Xeifrank
Pierre has to start at some point. Batting order isn't all that important. vr, Xei
2008-04-25 16:12:10
84.   Eric Enders
Nomar's tied for the team lead in homers over the past week. I assume that Torre is going to consider him a power hitter until Nomar proves otherwise. After all, Joe wasn't around last year. The last time Torre saw Nomar play, he was slugging .500 in the American League.
2008-04-25 16:13:09
85.   D4P
Who thinks Nomar is our best hitter?

The Bobble-Head.

2008-04-25 16:14:08
86.   arborial
Jon, you need to fix the math on your "2008 Season" sidebar...
2008-04-25 16:16:21
87.   Xeifrank
85. When did he say that?
vr, Xei
2008-04-25 16:16:28
88.   fanerman
Hmm. If we like to bat our best hitter 3rd, why don't we put Furcal there?
2008-04-25 16:17:58
89.   D4P
87
When he began putting Nomar in the #3/4 spot consistently. Actions speak at least as loudly as words.
2008-04-25 16:19:06
90.   Xeifrank
89. um, ok.
vr, Xei
2008-04-25 16:19:10
91.   silverwidow
Starting in two or three weeks, this should be the everyday order:

Furcal
Martin
Kemp
Kent
Ethier
LaRoche
Loney
Jones

2008-04-25 16:20:59
92.   natepurcell
the Kanye West tour was one of the cooler hip hop concerts Ive been to.
2008-04-25 16:21:37
93.   Eric Enders
How was Lupe?
2008-04-25 16:26:28
94.   natepurcell
93

Absolutely sic. He went on first out of the 3 tour acts and it was nice because it wasn't that crowded yet. I was on the KW marketing team so I had access to basically anywhere (sans dressing rooms) in the arena. I was mostly up close, in front of the first row most of the time.

When Kanye went on, security tried to hold everyone back but they broke through and everyone on the floor smushed up as close as they can to the stage.

PS Kanye is the most conceited artist in the business right now. His set was hot, but it was so cheesy. He was traveling through the universe trying to find the biggest star, the star that will shine forever and last the longest, yada yada yada.

You can guess who/what that "star" was.

2008-04-25 16:32:03
95.   Eric Stephen
No big deal that Pierre is playing tonight. He had only started two of the previous seven games. Besides, Kemp is more likely to play the next two days anyway since two lefties (Redman and Francis) are pitching.

OF playing time distribution thus far:

Plate Apps
Ethier 91
Jones 84
Kemp 69
Pierre 46

Innings
Ethier 180
Jones 176
Kemp 130
Pierre 81

Starts (including tonight)
Ethier 22
Jones 21
Kemp 14
Pierre 12

2008-04-25 16:35:11
96.   Eric Enders
Pretty weird that Ethier, who during Spring Training complained about being the odd man out, has played the most of the four outfielders.
2008-04-25 16:37:57
97.   D4P
has played the most of the four outfielders

...and the best.

2008-04-25 16:39:01
98.   Eric Enders
The Dodgers are one of four teams that have used only four outfielders so far. The other three are the Royals, Pirates, and Orioles.

The Giants have used 9.

2008-04-25 16:40:46
99.   das411
Who needs four outfielders when you have JAYSON WERTH??

3-0 Phils, top 3rd.

2008-04-25 16:42:20
100.   arbfuldodger
Man Rick Neuheisel isnt catching a break early in his tenure... both Cowan & Olsen were carted off the field today. per ESPN.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3368114

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2008-04-25 16:52:07
101.   Bob Timmermann
100
Actually they were carted off the field yesterday. Cowan may require reconstructive surgery and miss the 2008 season.
2008-04-25 16:54:36
102.   Kevin Lewis
94

That sounds like something Gob Bluth would do. How can he perform that storyline and not be laughed at by his friends?

Yes, I know. The friends don't laugh because they like the lifestyle.

2008-04-25 16:59:40
103.   Jon Weisman
Times Sports gets hard-nosed about sources:

http://www.laobserved.com/archive/2008/04/times_sports_gets_serious.php

2008-04-25 17:04:05
104.   Jim Hitchcock
103 Well, it's pretty interesting to get an inside look at the newspaper business.

Also interesting is the fact the Times writers are still getting raises!

2008-04-25 17:04:14
105.   ToyCannon
Kanye must not be aware of the singer cycle.

Jayson Werths broken wrist is another reason why Depo is no longer with us. That was a brilliant stroke in 2004 and it is good to see Jayson finally healthy again for a sustained period. When Ned was lamenting we had no outfielders back in Nov 2006, he forgot to count on Werth. I understand because of the wrist injury but man it is tough to take seeing him play so well for the Phillies while he subs for Depo's folly.

2008-04-25 17:08:14
106.   fanerman
105 Yeah. Ethier/Werth/Kemp would be a pretty darn good outfield.
2008-04-25 17:16:21
107.   trainwreck
I loathe Kanye West. Not only is he a giant ego-maniac, but all his beats are just mixes of old songs. Even P Diddy can do that.
2008-04-25 17:19:58
108.   bhsportsguy
95 This will not make Mr. Brock happy.

On the otherhand, since Colorado is starting lefties the next two games, Mr. Kemp should play in those games.

2008-04-25 17:21:01
109.   D4P
all his beats are just mixes of old songs

I can't believe so many people can get rich by copying old songs.

2008-04-25 17:22:50
110.   D4P
Rob Neyer has an "Insider" article about whether and how much managers matter.

I'm not an Insider.

2008-04-25 17:23:46
111.   trainwreck
I used to be an Insider.
2008-04-25 17:25:30
112.   bhsportsguy
Kershaw and LaRoche both starting tonight for Jacksonville, Andy started in the field for the first time this year.

I believe Tim Sexton is pitching tonight for Inland Empire.

I'm off to old ballgame to see Hiroki Kuroda for the first time. I have seen Penny twice, Lowe once, Chad once and Kuo once so far.

2008-04-25 17:26:51
113.   Jim Hitchcock
109 Well, what percentage of the population is really musically astute? I heard a story on NPR once where the the owner of a radio station that resisted playlists put the figure at about 5%, and I think he may be close. The other 95% just want to hear what's currently deemed cool.

Of course, one of the great things about DT is that those figures do not apply here.

2008-04-25 17:29:12
114.   underdog
112 Bring them luck! Bring them an extra gnome if you have to. They could use all the good gn-omens they can get.

The Jax game will be fun to follow, too.

I'm off for the eve, will catch the game in the archives late, so... good luck, Dodgers!

2008-04-25 17:30:52
115.   bhsportsguy
110 It is your standarad article about how much does a manager really affect the outcome.
2008-04-25 17:31:28
116.   D4P
115
Does he reach any strong conclusions one way or the other?
2008-04-25 17:32:30
117.   underdog