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Rain Delay Theater

2008-05-23 22:19

by Jon Weisman

Bottom of the ninth, one out, 2-1 Cardinals, 3-2 to Matt Kemp ... and the old man is snoring.

* * *

Clayton Kershaw's promotion hadn't been inked as of Friday night, but the world's eyes remained peeled. Saturday was ruled out for a debut, but Sunday emerged as a strong possibility, according to Kevin Baxter of the Times and Ken Gurnick of MLB.com.

With Derek Lowe rebounding to a seven-inning, two-run performance tonight, a Kershaw promotion for Sunday would reflect an eagerness to get the 20-year-old lefty to Los Angeles regardless of need, because that's Chad Billinglsey's scheduled day (he would be given an extra day of rest). Further, there is almost no way the Dodgers would run through their bullpen Saturday, even if Brad Penny has another tough outing. And so, if Eli's coming to break opponents' hearts, it makes sense to uncoil him in front of a home crowd.

By the way, if Kershaw were pitching Sunday, wouldn't you want him already on a plane today? (So, is he?)

Meanwhile, Gurnick notes that two other pitchers are making progress:

In other pitching news, Jason Schmidt is scheduled for his third Minor League rehab start Monday night for Inland Empire. And disabled pitcher Esteban Loaiza said he felt fine after a Friday bullpen session and is scheduled to pitch for Las Vegas on Monday in a Minor League rehab start.

* * *

Rafael Furcal had a setback after a strenuous workout in the cold Wednesday, and doesn't have a return date set. While the idea of a workout in the cold seems to make no sense, I guess you need to find out what your body can do, right? Right?

Anyway, I don't think I'm overstating the case to say Furcal's going to have injury questions following him the rest of his career.

There's news about Andruw Jones as well, though it perplexes me. From Gurnick:

Torre indicated that if Jones' knee flares up again, immediate surgery is likely. The concern is that the knee will be like a time bomb that could go off with the slightest wrong movement.

"We've had players in the past ... who have had a problem like this and done OK throughout the whole season," said Conte. "Hopefully, he's going to fall into that category, but there's no doubt he has a small tear in the cartilage, and that can be problematic at any time."

I mean, come on. Isn't this silly? The best case scenario for Jones not having his inevitable surgery now is that he might not have his knee go thermite on him? I've got news for you: Sometimes things don't have to get worse before they get better.

Gurnick also has a Nomar Garciaparra update. Sometimes things do have to get worse before they get better.

* * *

Tough one (so far) for the Dodgers tonight, but Adam Wainwright of St. Louis earned it with some great pitching. At least Lowe was back to form.

Comments (166)

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2008-05-23 22:27:42

1. NorCal-Dodger

Any estimate on how long the rain delay might last?

2008-05-23 22:29:24

2. scareduck

But didn't Furcal have injury problems going into his contract with the Dodgers? He had surgery in the offseason, and reported an annular strain in his back.

2008-05-23 22:29:49

3. Bob Timmermann

I don't think it will be all that long. It's not raining where I am (7 miles north of the stadium.)

The showers have been scattered all day.

2008-05-23 22:29:52

4. dzzrtRatt

I just got back from sushi with friends and family. I figured it would all be over by now.

To the remote!

2008-05-23 22:30:34

5. underdog

For Rain Delay Theater, shall I entertain with more Karate Kid trivia?

More Looney Tunes references?

Perhaps we can play a game of canasta.

2008-05-23 22:31:53

6. underdog

This rain delay could give the team a shot of it keeps the Cards' closer from coming back out there.

2008-05-23 22:32:02

7. Jon Weisman

2 - Why is that question preceded with a "But?"

2008-05-23 22:32:27

8. trainwreck

Thanks regfairfield, for the drink recipe. Sounds good. I will try it.

2008-05-23 22:35:14

9. underdog

As much as I've been wanting the team to re-sign Furcal given what he means to them when he's around, it's become increasingly clear that they really shouldn't resign him, especially not for the 5 year contract he's going to want. There really are countless injury concerns with him and they have too many good young infielders (Hu and DeJesus, along with LaRoche and DeWitt). At the worst they could try to sign Mark Ellis, since they're losing Kent, too.

Plus the draft picks.

Still, for this year, while we have him, I really hope Furcal gets well soon.

2008-05-23 22:36:10

10. Eric Stephen

9
Don't discount the possibility of receiving draft picks from the Giants when they sign Jeff Kent for 2009!

2008-05-23 22:37:03

11. scareduck

7 - It sounded like you were implying that his current injury is changing the perception of his durability, when that was a question from some point past his signing by the Dodgers, at least.

2008-05-23 22:37:55

12. Eric Stephen

I take full responsibility for the Dodgers not leading/winning thus far tonight. I was watching the Laker game at a bar, and the Dodger game was only on a small TV almost completely out of sight so I wasn't able to watch any of the first 7 or so innings.

2008-05-23 22:38:08

13. underdog

10 - Hah. That would be hilarious. But... don't see that happening. Kent's gonna retire after this year, regardless of what happens.

2008-05-23 22:38:34

14. Jon Weisman

9 - Reframing the question. Applied to Beltre, applies to Furcal.

http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/15240.html

2008-05-23 22:38:41

15. Gilberto Reyes

9 I think signing him for 3 years is still risky. Backs don't get better with age.

2008-05-23 22:40:11

16. underdog

My g/f made me turn the channel a long while ago from the Karate Kid to a Cadfael episode running on PBS, and then the game went into rain delay. I think Cadfael would be better if William Zabka played a villain.

2008-05-23 22:40:19

17. Jon Weisman

11 - When he's going well, I think some people repress that he has a questionable health record, but I've said all along that you have to keep it in mind.

2008-05-23 22:40:31

18. scareduck

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN200609180.shtml

2008-05-23 22:40:56

19. Linkmeister

I was watching The News Hour so I didn't see the last couple of innings. It must really be coming down in buckets to stop a game with one down in the ninth, no?

2008-05-23 22:42:06

20. underdog

True, true, I've basically come around on it. I wanted them to resign Furcal, now I don't think it's a good idea.

14 Man, you were harsh back then. Comments closed, just like that! >snap!<

2008-05-23 22:42:24

21. Jon Weisman

I wonder what's the closest to the potential finish a rain delay has come.

2008-05-23 22:42:56

22. Jon Weisman

20 - It bums me out that all the All-Baseball.com comments for Dodger Thoughts are gone forever.

2008-05-23 22:43:24

23. NorCal-Dodger

FWIW, Maker's Mark is a pretty good whiskey, better than Jack, Jim or Turkey.

2008-05-23 22:43:55

24. Eric Stephen

22
What year did you make the switch to the Toaster?

2008-05-23 22:44:03

25. scareduck

22 - yeah, what happened to that, anyway?

2008-05-23 22:45:08

26. scareduck

21 - I was at Wrigley when they stopped the game with one out. The rain delay lasted until midnight IIRC.

2008-05-23 22:45:55

27. Jon Weisman

24 - March 2006.

2008-05-23 22:46:43

28. underdog

The AB.com days were before my time, so I'm particularly sorry I can't read comments back then, to see what life was like in Olde Times.

Can someone wake me when the game resumes? Thanks.

2008-05-23 22:46:48

29. bobsbrother

Well, no one in St. Louis is getting the final score in their newspaper on Saturday.

2008-05-23 22:46:49

30. Eric Stephen

27
Wow, I thought it was much longer ago. It seems like the toaster has been around forever.

2008-05-23 22:48:39

31. Andrew Shimmin

Wasn't it 2005?

2008-05-23 22:48:39

32. underdog

Wait, what? I thought this was on the Toaster much longer ago than that. Okay, then scratch my previous comment.

Sob! My incredibly astute commentary is lost forever...

2008-05-23 22:48:55

33. Eric Stephen

27
Is it 2005? There are some comments starting in March 2005.

2008-05-23 22:49:53

34. Gilberto Reyes

Assuming Furcal comes back and gets at least 500 ABs....I would offer Furcal his current salary of $13M for two more years. Or $10M for 3 more years. If the back prevents him from getting 500 ABs, I would stay away.

2008-05-23 22:50:44

35. Bob Timmermann

Games called with 2 outs in the ninth.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/shareit/6NAu

2008-05-23 22:50:44

36. Jon Weisman

31 - March 2005.

http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/156430.html

2008-05-23 22:51:24

37. underdog

If the Dodgers miraculously come back in this one, assuming it resumes, will there be much complaining and blaming in St. Louis? Rhetorical question.

Okay, my Weather.com Doppler radar map shows that it's cleared over Dodger Stadium. What's the deal?

2008-05-23 22:52:06

38. Eric Stephen

We're probably about a week away from the 1,000,000th comment on the Toaster. I hope Bob Watson has an account!

2008-05-23 22:52:12

39. Xeifrank

29. From my many travels to the Stl area, I never saw a west coast final score in the newspaper. You'd think it would have to wait til the next day, but I guess they figured it was such old news you wouldn't get that either. This was quite a few years ago (pre-internet), but a west coast fan in the Stl region was out of luck.
vr, Xei

2008-05-23 22:55:41

40. Bob Timmermann

37
St. Louis fans will blame it all on Tony La Russa if the Dodgers win.

Or possibly Jason Isringhausen.

2008-05-23 22:55:57

41. Eric Stephen

38
Check that, it will probably happen by Memorial Day or a day or so afterward.

2008-05-23 22:56:24

42. jasonungar07

No way on Furcal. Exactly what we don't need to do.

2008-05-23 22:56:56

43. Eric Stephen

If the Dodgers win, I will blame/credit Bob's brother.

2008-05-23 22:57:58

44. bobsbrother

I got every result from the Cards-Padres series in my home edition in suburban St. Louis. The final edition hits the presses at 1:30 a.m., but there aren't many of them. I now return you to discussions of the Dodgers.

2008-05-23 22:59:53

45. Jon Weisman

42 - Again, it's completely wrong to say "no way" on someone like Furcal. There have to be terms you'd be willing to offer him. It doesn't serve any purpose to assume his asking price will be so high that it would interest another team but not you. That might happen, but it's self-defeating to assume it will.

2008-05-23 23:00:21

46. underdog

You're welcome to stick around, Brother o'Bob. I would think most of your local commentators are gone to bed at this point.

Meanwhile, Cadfael solved the mystery, the Karate Kid is over, and the game is still rain delayed.

2008-05-23 23:01:46

47. dodgerinlv

Any thoughts on folling the new trend and signing Kemp, Martin, Loney, Either, Bills, and Broxton to long term contracts now?

2008-05-23 23:03:20

48. Bob Timmermann

Rain delay theater:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_lvDLeTae8&feature=related

2008-05-23 23:03:42

49. Eric Stephen

47
Much like Mitch Hedberg's thoughts on frilly toothpicks, I'm for 'em!

2008-05-23 23:04:30

50. fracule

45 Looking back at the Piazza comments from the other day, it seems that he was blamed for wanting too much, as if negotiations aren't possible. Who cares how much he wants, how much is he willing to take, and how much are the Dodgers willing to give. Not having to move your family may be worth something to someone with a young family. There have been players in the past who have taken smaller paydays to remain in the liked and familiar.

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2008-05-23 23:04:51

51. underdog

Since we're still in Rain Delay Theater, I would like to present this Dodger Thoughts Classic from March of '07:
>>
165. Suffering Bruin
Just checking in while planning...

Did someone say "Karate Kid?"

Ralph Macchio got the part over two other actors. I was one of the other two.

Yes, they most definitely made the right choice.

Underdog in May of '08: Ahhh. Now I get it.

2008-05-23 23:05:25

52. Andrew Shimmin

Comedy Central has a Mitch Hedberg show starting at 11:30.

2008-05-23 23:05:34

53. Zak

I'm cruel but it gives me so much joy that Jeff Kent is still suffering from losing the WS to the Angels.

Just watching In Their Own Words on FSN.

2008-05-23 23:06:09

54. scareduck

22 - surprisingly large numbers are available on archive.org. Example:

http://tinyurl.com/5fevmy

2008-05-23 23:06:15

55. fracule

48 That makes me homesick.

2008-05-23 23:06:15

56. Eric Stephen

52
Welcome to the Top 10!

2008-05-23 23:07:34

57. fracule

My contribution to rain delay theater.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuGaqLT-gO4

2008-05-23 23:10:15

58. bobsbrother

In St. Louis, we got Mike Shannon interviewing Jerry Coleman from earlier this week in San Diego. Guaranteeing that no one will stay awake for the end of the game.

2008-05-23 23:10:22

59. underdog

48 The Forbidden Zone! A cult classic if there ever was one. Bizarre and wonderful, as any film with both Herve Villechaize and Susan Tyrell should be.

2008-05-23 23:11:13

60. fracule

11:22

2008-05-23 23:11:53

61. bobsbrother

Here they're saying a 1:25 a.m. restart

2008-05-23 23:13:25

62. Bob Timmermann

Since this is not the Griddle, there is not a rigid adherence to Pacific Time.

2008-05-23 23:14:12

63. guy clinch

So will the Cards come back w. Franklin? And, does anyone here watch "b" horror flicks? I've been watching "Evil Dead." So awful, but I just love it.

2008-05-23 23:14:38

64. fracule

62 I thought your brother might be on the island from Lost.

2008-05-23 23:15:23

65. fracule

63 Awesome movie! You gotta catch ED II and Demon Knight if you already haven't.

2008-05-23 23:16:20

66. underdog

Evil Dead II's even awesome-r. Er... And Army of Darkness is great fun, too.

2008-05-23 23:18:04

67. Xeifrank

hmm, so is St.Louis in the Mound Time Zone?
vr, Xei

2008-05-23 23:18:50

68. fracule

66 I only spoke in 'Ashisms' for three months after seeing army of darkness.

2008-05-23 23:19:16

69. guy clinch

65- Thanks, will netflix those. I'm new to these types of movies. I'm watching this thinking "well, why doesn't he just leave the cabin? No, don't open the cellar door..." I suppose I need to put those questions aside.

2008-05-23 23:20:39

70. Eric Stephen

How crazy is it that Jose Valverde got hit in the face tonight (not quite as violent as Pujols / Tall Chris Young) yet stayed in the game to get the save?

2008-05-23 23:21:00

71. Ali Nagib

Just got back from Petco, and I was wondering when the last time there were rain delays in SD and LA on the same day.

2008-05-23 23:21:22

72. bobsbrother

Ryan Franklin is on the mound.

2008-05-23 23:21:44

73. scareduck

48 - very cool! I was unaware there was a movie so recent.

I feel sorry for this guy:

http://la.metblogs.com/2008/05/23/biking-to-dodger-stadium/

2008-05-23 23:21:57

74. Gilberto Reyes

Vinny's back!!!

2008-05-23 23:22:10

75. Bob Timmermann

71
I think it happened last year.

2008-05-23 23:22:57

76. Eric Stephen

underdog's alarm!!!!

2008-05-23 23:23:07

77. Jacob Burch

BB!

2008-05-23 23:23:24

78. scareduck

Ball four.

2008-05-23 23:23:43

79. Johnson

71 I would expect a much higher correlation between rain delays in L.A. and San Diego than between L.A. and any other city.

2008-05-23 23:23:45

80. bhsportsguy

Ball 4 - Walked Kemp

2008-05-23 23:23:58

81. underdog

And.... we're back!

Kemp walks. Frankling still in there. That seems kind of ludicrous.

2008-05-23 23:24:00

82. Gilberto Reyes

Surprised to see Franklin still out there!

2008-05-23 23:24:27

83. Eric Stephen

I wish D4P were here so he could post the Franklin Come Alive link.

2008-05-23 23:24:50

84. underdog

76 Wha..!? Hoozzat? {snort} I'm awake, I'm awake!

I mean, thanks!

2008-05-23 23:25:38

85. bhsportsguy

And a small town in Missouri is listening intently to Charley Steiner and Rick Monday.

2008-05-23 23:26:02

86. Gilberto Reyes

And he can't throw strikes!!!

2008-05-23 23:26:55

87. Andrew Shimmin

Not sure running on Molina is a good idea, even for a Bison.

2008-05-23 23:27:21

88. Eric Stephen

A dropped tag gives the Dodgers borrowed time!

2008-05-23 23:27:24

89. Andrew Shimmin

Lucky Izzy dropped it.

2008-05-23 23:27:38

90. Gilberto Reyes

It's up to Pee Wee.

2008-05-23 23:27:46

91. bhsportsguy

Pee Wee alert!

2008-05-23 23:28:12

92. underdog

Kemp is lucky that wasn't the end of the game right there.

Pee Wee Alert!
Pee Wee Alert!

Stand up.

2008-05-23 23:28:23

93. scareduck

DeWitt having a bad night at the plate. That strike two pitch was pretty bad.

2008-05-23 23:28:32

94. Eric Stephen

You can't spell Delwyn without "wyn".

2008-05-23 23:28:39

95. Jacob Burch

And with Jones on deck, it may be really up to Pee Wee

2008-05-23 23:28:52

96. Vishal

57 dude, that was awesome. thanks for posting it.

2008-05-23 23:28:54

97. Gilberto Reyes

Would they pitch around Pee Wee to get to Druw?

2008-05-23 23:28:56

98. underdog

Andruw Jones is on deck.

Wait... what??

2008-05-23 23:29:23

99. bhsportsguy

97 Nahh.

2008-05-23 23:30:41

100. bobsbrother

Everyone in Missouri is listening to Mike Shannon and John Rooney on the Cardinals radio network. Though Rooney is downstairs for the postgame interview.

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2008-05-23 23:30:51

101. Bob Timmermann

On April 4, 2006, the Braves were in L.A. and had a 25-minute rain delay. The Padres game against the Giants was rained out that night.

2008-05-23 23:31:49

102. Eric Stephen

Time for some early fireworks!

2008-05-23 23:32:02

103. scareduck

98 - oh. My. God.

And to think, there's almost not enough people left to boo him properly.

2008-05-23 23:32:08

104. bhsportsguy

100 Except for the Dodger radio network affilliate that is operating in DeWitt's hometown.

2008-05-23 23:32:28

105. Zak

[101} Also, I turned 29 on that day.

2008-05-23 23:32:51

106. underdog

Jones trying to do a Kirk Gibson here. Or he'll do a Joe Schlabotnick.

2008-05-23 23:33:58

107. scareduck

And Jones is the first batter to get to 1-2 since the rain delay ended.

2008-05-23 23:35:48

108. scareduck

Molina: Just groove one. What can he do?

2008-05-23 23:35:48

109. Zak

Jones is back and we can start losing again. Good times!

2008-05-23 23:35:58

110. Jacob Burch

And let us resume Minotaur watch.

2008-05-23 23:35:59

111. bobsbrother

I can't tell on the radio: Were those boos or Druws?

2008-05-23 23:36:12

112. Vishal

107 well, according to gameday, all of those strikes/fouls have been right down the middle

2008-05-23 23:36:20

113. scareduck

Torre outmanaged again.

2008-05-23 23:36:23

114. waterboy100

they were cheering, then they boo'd

2008-05-23 23:36:28

115. Reddog

Pitiful.

2008-05-23 23:36:29

116. Gilberto Reyes

Time for surgery?

2008-05-23 23:36:37

117. underdog

That was a pretty wicked slider, but still... kind of a predictable ending eh?

Well, that was anticlimatic.

2008-05-23 23:36:37

118. Vishal

111 they'd better be boos

2008-05-23 23:36:46

119. Bob Timmermann

There were boos and also rhythmic chants of "Andruw sucks"

2008-05-23 23:37:09

120. scareduck

112 - even worse. Jones can't do anything on gift pitches.

2008-05-23 23:37:16

121. Jacob Burch

119 Most of those were "An-druw Jones" from what I could hear.

2008-05-23 23:37:29

122. Linkmeister

Maybe Andruw was 5-5 in his previous at-bats against Franklin? No? His usual futile self, huh?

Blech.

2008-05-23 23:37:35

123. underdog

113 How was Torre outmanaged? I must've missed it.

Ah well. Night all!

2008-05-23 23:37:38

124. Xeifrank

Well, that was like a bad dream. Wish I hadn't stayed up for that.
vr, Xei

2008-05-23 23:37:39

125. Jacob Burch

119 That is, during the AB. They cut game sound after he K'd.

2008-05-23 23:38:27

126. Zak

117 When I saw him make that poor swing on the 1-1 pitch to go 1-2, I honestly just knew that's the pitch they would go back to and he'd flail at it again.

2008-05-23 23:38:29

127. LAT

I just turned it on. Were they chanting "Andruw Sucks!!!" If so, that is really weak, especially in the bootom of the 9th in a one run game. Nothing like undermining your last hope at winning.

2008-05-23 23:39:03

128. Bob Timmermann

Andruw Jones is now 0 for 6 against Ryan Franklin.

2008-05-23 23:39:23

129. scareduck

123 - using Jones as a pinch hitter? Surely there must have been a pitcher available...

2008-05-23 23:40:06

130. Bob Timmermann

The other position players available would have been Maza and Ardoin.

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