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$10,000,000 Hiroki Kuroda
*$475,000 Chad Billingsley
*$415,000 Clayton Kershaw
*$405,000 Eric Stults
*$400,000 James McDonald
*Total: $11,695,000

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*$1,300,000 Scott Proctor
*$1,500,000 Jonathan Broxton
*$425,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
*$420,000 Cory Wade
*$410,000 Ramon Troncoso
*$400,000 Scott Elbert
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*$3,000,000 Russell Martin
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*$600,000 Matt Kemp
*$600,000 James Loney
*$500,000 Angel Berroa
*$410,000 Blake DeWitt
*$400,000 Tony Abreu
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*$600,000 Jason Repko
*$410,000 Delwyn Young
*$400,000 Danny Ardoin
*$400,000 Chin-Lung Hu
Total: $11,810,000
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Lucas May
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$50,000 Gary Bennett (buyout of $900,000 option)
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When the Going Get's Tough ...
2008-06-14 12:48
by Jon Weisman

Dodgers at Tigers, 12:55 p.m.

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From Diamong (sic) Leung of the Press-Enterprise:

Shortstop Rafael Furcal has been diagnosed with a bulging disk and has been limited to conditioning exercises, leading Dodgers manager Joe Torre to realize he might not have his leadoff hitter back in three weeks, as he'd been told. ...

(Angel) Berroa, however, is hitting .133 and isn't the best defender either. In the first inning Friday, he botched a rundown play, allowing Detroit's Carlos Guillen to elude a tag by sliding underneath it and returning safely to third base.

Torre said he would give Blake DeWitt a look at shortstop before thinking about turning to All-Star catcher Russell Martin, who has said shortstop is his dream position to play.

But on a night when Andy LaRoche started for the first time at third base, Torre called DeWitt his starter there.

"I'm more apt to move LaRoche around," Torre said. ...

Comments (370)
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2008-06-14 12:53:47
1.   Alex41592
Lets get some...err...a run!
2008-06-14 12:55:18
2.   Eric Stephen
Beimel with a national Bison reference!!!
2008-06-14 12:57:46
3.   Andrew Shimmin
One up, Juan out.
2008-06-14 12:58:41
4.   mintxcore
Is that a Croatia home kit I see someone wearing in the crowd? Is Bob at this game?!
2008-06-14 12:59:13
5.   Dodger Dawg
Nothing will change until management is either changed itself, or becomes serious about winning, and replaces the dead wood PVLs.
2008-06-14 13:00:06
6.   Eric Stephen
Hit it to Cabrera!!
2008-06-14 13:03:25
7.   Jacob Burch
As weird as I think a Joe Beimel Bobblehead is, I have to say I love the guy.

Was it a simple Bison drop in the line-up? Any other winners?

2008-06-14 13:04:43
8.   D4P
"I'm more apt to move LaRoche around," Torre said

Is that because he thinks LaRoche is more versatile, or because DeWitt has somehow earned the right to stay at 3B?

2008-06-14 13:05:51
9.   Dodger Dawg
That's Kent showing the way to lead.
2008-06-14 13:06:07
10.   bhsportsguy
I hate to keep bringing this up but who exactly is the PVL that needs to be replaced.

I don't consider Pierre one because one, he's 30 and two, he's only in his 8th year.

At this point you are only talking about Kent.

2008-06-14 13:06:12
11.   Eric Stephen
7
It was "fresh off parole, Matt 'The Bison' Kemp".

Beimel also added:

Andre "Neck Beard" Ethier
Jeff "Only Man in MLB Who Should Wear a 'Stache" Kent
Juan "The Only Man in Baseball That Can Wear This [mini] Hat" Pierre

2008-06-14 13:06:12
12.   regfairfield
Good to see that we're going to wait until it's way too late to cut bait on DeWitt.
2008-06-14 13:09:46
13.   Eric Stephen
10
Pierre is clearly thought of in baseball circles as a "veteran", "leader", etc.
2008-06-14 13:10:40
14.   D4P
12
DeWitt now OPSing less than Loney, Kemp, and Ethier, though Management no doubt thinks he's hitting the best of the bunch.
2008-06-14 13:11:30
15.   JoeyP
Why on earth would they get Berroa, if trying Dewitt is already an option?

And Pierre needs to get out of that leadoff spot.

Torre's as bad as Grady.

2008-06-14 13:11:56
16.   DaDoughboy
Yay Penny!
8 pitch 1st?
2008-06-14 13:12:05
17.   Alex41592
Martin doing the little things
2008-06-14 13:12:37
18.   JoeyP
10---You dont consider Pierre a veteran that needs to be replaced?
2008-06-14 13:12:47
19.   Eric Stephen
With the Dodger offense struggling as it is, it's kind of shocking to see the infield in with 1 out for Ethier.
2008-06-14 13:13:37
20.   Alex41592
You see THAT'S why we don't score any runs.
2008-06-14 13:13:41
21.   Eric Stephen
Bison Speed™ = run
2008-06-14 13:14:26
22.   Alex41592
KEMP'S SPEED!
2008-06-14 13:14:35
23.   thinkblue88
Sweet, all the Dodgers except Kent and Kemp with the high socks.
2008-06-14 13:15:10
24.   fanerman
Hm.
LF-Young
CF-Kemp
RF-Ethier
3B-LaRoche
SS-DeWitt
2B-Kent
1B-Loney
C -Martin

That line-up could score some runs.

2008-06-14 13:15:13
25.   Ken Noe
I suspect Torre simply means that Martin won't be playing short.
2008-06-14 13:16:28
26.   Eric Stephen
25
Yeah, that's how I read it too.
2008-06-14 13:16:47
27.   Gen3Blue
Gameday went right from Either to Young. I assume Kemp got to first and Loney scored.
2008-06-14 13:17:18
28.   Alex41592
D.Y is really impressive batting from the left side.
2008-06-14 13:17:20
29.   fanerman
25 The more unrealistic scenario isn't Dewitt at SS. It's JP out of the line-up.
2008-06-14 13:18:00
30.   Eric Stephen
27
Infield single up the middle. Kemp beat the throw from Renteria.
2008-06-14 13:19:01
31.   Gen3Blue
30 excellant.
2008-06-14 13:19:36
32.   Ken Noe
29 No, he's batting leadoff until Furcal gets back, and who knows when that will be.
2008-06-14 13:20:57
33.   Dodger Dawg
I know this won't happen, but they might want to think about using LaRoche in Left field or 2nd base. Kent's just a shadow of his former self, and a shadow really doesn't hit much.
2008-06-14 13:23:04
34.   Andrew Shimmin
Arguing about whether Pierre is a PVL is like arguing about whether golf is a game or a sport. Call it whatever you want, just keep it off my television and I'm happy.
2008-06-14 13:26:17
35.   Eric Stephen
34
No U.S. Open for you this weekend, Shimmin?
2008-06-14 13:26:37
36.   JoeyP
It's too bad the Dodgers didnt sign Larish when they drafted him.

Tigers got a steal in the 5th round when they drafted him.

He's going to be a good one.

2008-06-14 13:26:43
37.   ChicagoDodger
CBS Sportsline Gamecenter writes:

Cabrera flied out to shallow shortstop.

Can someone please explain what shallow shortstop is?

2008-06-14 13:27:32
38.   Andrew Shimmin
35- That's right, I don't go in for tennis, either.
2008-06-14 13:28:16
39.   Andrew Shimmin
I miss the pitcher's spot.
2008-06-14 13:30:13
40.   D4P
38
And yet, you wear pleated pants and leather belts and tucked in shirts and shoes and socks everyday. I don't get it.
2008-06-14 13:31:22
41.   Gen3Blue
Well, we're through the hole in the line-up.
2008-06-14 13:31:51
42.   Eric Stephen
38
No Masters or Wimbledon either? I follow golf and tennis pretty much 4 weeks only a year at most, but they're pretty much mainstays for me (except the Australian Open I guess).
2008-06-14 13:32:58
43.   Eric Stephen
I wonder if the Tigers' starting pitcher today left tickets for his brother Ernest to view his major league debut.
2008-06-14 13:39:02
44.   Andrew Shimmin
Only baseball matters.
2008-06-14 13:39:22
45.   Eric Stephen
Hey Karros, Lowe's ERA in his losses is 6.68 too. It's not like he's losing 1-0 every time.
2008-06-14 13:40:33
46.   D4P
Only baseball matters

But other sports have pretty numbers too...

2008-06-14 13:40:35
47.   Eric Stephen
44
That should be engraved on something.
2008-06-14 13:41:16
48.   Bob Timmermann
I've mentioned this before, but the Tigers are the only team in the original AL Eight that the Dodgers have never played in the postseason.

1916 - lost to Red Sox in 5
1920 - lost to Indians in 7 (best of 9 series)
1941, 1947, 1949, 1952, 1953, 1956, 1977, 1978 - lost to Yankees
1955, 1963, 1981 - beat Yankees
1959 - beat White Sox
1966 - lost to Orioles
1974 - lost to A's, avenged loss in 1988

2008-06-14 13:41:30
49.   JoeyP
Small ball with I-Rod?
2008-06-14 13:43:57
50.   JoeyP
Poor baserunning by Thames.
He's got to score on Pierre.
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2008-06-14 13:46:51
51.   Eric Stephen
48
And 1965 - beat Minnesota (Washington)
2008-06-14 13:48:22
52.   Eric Stephen
50
Yeah, Thames somehow fell for Pierre's deke and froze between 2nd and 3rd. Dodge(re)d a bullet there.
2008-06-14 13:50:36
53.   Eric Stephen
Loney has two of the weaker hit doubles ever. But it all balances out.
2008-06-14 13:51:46
54.   Alex41592
The Gods are making up for Wrigley's foul balls today. And Martin NOT doing the little things this time.
2008-06-14 13:51:54
55.   Johnny Nucleo
Scouting says: jump on the first pitch? Not many people taking pitches this inning.
2008-06-14 13:52:26
56.   D4P
Gameday is telling me that Ethier is batting, but I assume it's Martin.
2008-06-14 13:52:50
57.   Eric Stephen
OK, new strategy: hit it to LF!
2008-06-14 13:53:06
58.   fanerman
Ground Rule Double!
2008-06-14 13:53:10
59.   Alex41592
Got the line by this much!
2008-06-14 13:53:12
60.   Andrew Shimmin
Martin popped out. Ethier did not.
2008-06-14 13:53:17
61.   Eric Stephen
56
Martin popped out to short on the first pitch.
2008-06-14 13:55:44
62.   Eric Stephen
Pee Wee!!!
2008-06-14 13:56:50
63.   Eric Stephen
Karros does not understand the Rule 5 draft, nor the difference between 25- and 40-man rosters.
2008-06-14 13:56:53
64.   fanerman
Pee Wee!
2008-06-14 13:57:05
65.   Andrew Shimmin
At least the Tigers will bat in between Berroa and Pierre. Seeing them back to back is depressing.
2008-06-14 13:57:54
66.   fanerman
It's nice when the black hole is only 2 batters long and not 4.
2008-06-14 13:57:59
67.   Andrew Shimmin
You could fill a book with stuff Eric Karros doesn't understand.
2008-06-14 13:59:06
68.   Eric Stephen
67
Chapter 1: How to Exit Gracefully as a Player
2008-06-14 13:59:16
69.   Alex41592
63 - Karros doesn't understand a lot of things, including the team he's paid to cover. I'm actually very disappointed in his analysis of the team.
2008-06-14 13:59:19
70.   D4P
The last time Brad Penny was given credit for a Dodger team victory was May 2.
2008-06-14 14:02:58
71.   Eric Stephen
Great play by Ethier holding Maggs to a double.
2008-06-14 14:03:59
72.   Alex41592
71 - It was even better holding him to a single :)
2008-06-14 14:04:22
73.   Gen3Blue
66 Gameday say the run scoring portion of the lineup scored some runs and we are already half way through the black hole.
2008-06-14 14:04:24
74.   Eric Stephen
At least now Ordonez might get tired having to trot 90 extra feet on Cabrera's HR.
2008-06-14 14:05:00
75.   Eric Stephen
72
D'oh! My mistake lead to the HR. Clearly.
2008-06-14 14:06:14
76.   D4P
Gameday is useless today.
2008-06-14 14:06:15
77.   MMSMikey
EK has been all over penny from the 1st pitch. Rightfully So.
2008-06-14 14:06:24
78.   ToyCannon
Miggy go boom?
2008-06-14 14:06:35
79.   still bevens
Karros knows one thing: Brad Penny is not good. And he keeps repeating it.
2008-06-14 14:06:35
80.   Reddog
So this should be Penny's last season here, right? I'll be glad to see him gone.
2008-06-14 14:07:46
81.   Eric Stephen
80
Club holds an option on Penny for 2009.
2008-06-14 14:08:46
82.   MMSMikey
penny?
2008-06-14 14:09:02
83.   Reddog
Maybe Penny could get a job next season as a batting practice pitcher.
2008-06-14 14:09:11
84.   Jacob Burch
80 The cost of keeping him is less than 7 mil, i believe, for next year, and I actually can't imagine them not exercising it. Gambling on Brad Penny being somewhere between his 06/7 self and today is probably with it.
2008-06-14 14:09:44
85.   Eric Stephen
81
The option is for either $8.75m or $9.25m, depending on whom you believe (Cot's Baseball Contracts or MLB4u.com), with a $2m buyout.
2008-06-14 14:10:01
86.   Jacob Burch
As much as I want Penny to be "with it," I did mean 'worth.'
2008-06-14 14:10:09
87.   fanerman
Penny implosion: 4th inning.
2008-06-14 14:10:12
88.   MMSMikey
nice hanging spin ball there to pudge.
2008-06-14 14:10:25
89.   Alex41592
Wow. I am full of Rule 1 expletives right now for Brad Penny. He's just terrible.
2008-06-14 14:11:16
90.   still bevens
The bitter cynic in me is proving to be right. I predicted the bats would show up today but the pitching would cough it up.
2008-06-14 14:12:29
91.   still bevens
Nice to see the Scott Proctor Gas Can Experience warming up in the pen.
2008-06-14 14:12:40
92.   D4P
Maybe Penny really wants to leave and wants to make sure the team doesn't pick up his option.
2008-06-14 14:13:17
93.   MMSMikey
phantom dl...phantom dl...phantom dl...
2008-06-14 14:13:23
94.   Gen3Blue
Wow, it seems to be pointless giving Penny a lead. It seems like his sudden concern with keeping a baserunner close broke something. Gameday showed the location of that 92 mile "fastball" about 12" higher than most others.
2008-06-14 14:13:32
95.   Jacob Burch
92 (after triple) I'd buy it.
2008-06-14 14:13:32
96.   ToyCannon
And Leyland was squeezing in the 3rd. Doesn't he read old fashioned scouting reports?
2008-06-14 14:13:35
97.   D4P
Greatest Offense Ever!
2008-06-14 14:14:52
98.   Eric Stephen
96
Squeezing, and playing the infield in in the 2nd inning with one out of a scoreless tie.
2008-06-14 14:15:30
99.   Ken Noe
Fearless prediction: Penny gone at the trading deadline for not a lot.
2008-06-14 14:16:18
100.   Eric Stephen
Good thing Kuo was used in the last two games in meaningless spots.
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2008-06-14 14:16:23
101.   nofatmike
Hopefully Kuo gets another shot at the rotation now.
2008-06-14 14:16:29
102.   MonkeyBlue
So frustrating. Torre needs to put Penny in the pen and let somebody in the minors take his place.
2008-06-14 14:17:06
103.   MonkeyBlue
Or Kuo(I like Chan ho to Kuo connection) like nofatmike
2008-06-14 14:17:29
104.   Alex41592
99 - He's regressed to second half 2006 Brad Penny.

Great try by Ethier.

2008-06-14 14:18:16
105.   Linkmeister
Please explain (H/T Scott Long) why Torre brought Proctor with him to LA.
2008-06-14 14:18:29
106.   Eric Stephen
That would have been a good time for a collision.
2008-06-14 14:18:42
107.   Ken Noe
Dear Mr. Torre:

I know you love Scott Proctor, but he's done.

Ken

PS: So's Sweeney.

2008-06-14 14:19:15
108.   Eric Stephen
105
Unless Torre knew last July he would be in LA, I doubt he had much to do with the Proctor acquisition.
2008-06-14 14:20:31
109.   OhioBlues12
Closed door meeting after the game? Maybe Penny won't come out when they open them back up. Seriously, does Penny throw a sinker? Seems like he needs something to get guys out since he doesn't strike out anyone anymore.
2008-06-14 14:22:22
110.   nick
the Proctor-Betemit deal managed to hurt both teams.....(though I'd rather have Betemit, so far we've seen a .241 OBP and an ability to play every infield position poorly--when observation does not suggest you're clearly a better IB than Jason Giambi, that's a bad sign)
2008-06-14 14:22:52
111.   Linkmeister
108 Did we get Proctor last mid-season? I thought he was a new arrival for 2008.
2008-06-14 14:24:16
112.   Eric Stephen
Time for Loney's 3rd double.

Kent's DP ball becomes two on base, one out.

2008-06-14 14:24:23
113.   Alex41592
Bonine just gave us a life.
2008-06-14 14:25:14
114.   Zach the Ripper
Right now, I'm trying to figure out how I could have been so excited about our pitching staff, and the whole team for that matter.
Frankly, I'm flabbergasted by our record. How are we only 5 games under .500? It's amazing.
I'm still hoping that if we start playing better we can win, because I can't imagine so many things going wrong all season. Eventually the ship will turn, right? We just need to tread water until we find our power stroke.
Oh thats right. We are the only team in baseball that can manage to spend more then 90% of the other teams, and forget to buy a single power hitter.
Tell me again why the Dodger's don't find it prudent to invest in a weight room?
Sorry about the vent guys. Me very angry.
2008-06-14 14:25:18
115.   underdog
111 - Yes and he was good last year. Even for LA. I have no idea why he's so bad this year.
But even more importantly, why is Penny so consistently terrible this season?

So I checked the box score on my phone earlier and saw the Dodgers go up 4-1 then, and said "Yes! There is a God!" and then came home and saw that Penny isn't even worth a penny and suddenly it was - what the?? = 4-7.

Sheesh.

I reeally wouldn't give up on this game yet though, guys.

2008-06-14 14:25:50
116.   Eric Stephen
110 ,111
Part of the humor of Torre coming to LA was that Torre had "abused" Proctor while with NY, so when Proctor finally escaped Torre's perceived wrath, here comes Joe back to LA, haunting Proctor (in theory).
2008-06-14 14:26:44
117.   Ken Noe
Game's blacked out here today. Has Rosenthal demanded a Kemp trade yet? Because I'm sensing his need for veteran presence.
2008-06-14 14:26:57
118.   Eric Stephen
Loney's day:

double
double
double play

2008-06-14 14:26:58
119.   MMSMikey
double play by loney...shocking.
2008-06-14 14:27:08
120.   Alex41592
115 - Now?
2008-06-14 14:27:51
121.   Eric Stephen
117
According to the Fox press release, Ken Rosenthal was supposed to be at this game, but I haven't seen him yet. He's probably making suggestions to Colletti as we speak.
2008-06-14 14:27:57
122.   underdog
Btw, off subject, but when I was driving home I was listening to ESPN radio trying to get the Dodgers score, they had on an NFL report show. And started off with "Breaking news from the NFL! Here's John Clayton with more..." So I listened with baited breath. "On Chad Johnson, in Cincinnati..." Uh huh, I thought, yeah...?

"Reported to Bengals training camp and participated."

Wha...huh!?

That was the breaking news? I thought he'd been traded or someone broke something.

Sheesh.

2008-06-14 14:31:46
123.   berkowit28
Like I said, Penny would give up at least 5 runs in one inning, and maybe another 1 or 2. They'll need (I said 7) 8 runs. They might even get them today but jeez.
2008-06-14 14:32:46
124.   PalmdaleSteve1
So what is it with Big Brad? I have noticed that Penny was a "Big Boy" but seemed even more of "Bigger Boy" this year? Is that just my TV?

I also noticed in one early April game there were shots of Penny in the dugout taking puffs off of an inhaler, by chance is Penny asthmatic? In that early April game Penny seemed to me to be winded quite a bit, could an increase in weight and breathing problems be root causes of his lousy performance?

2008-06-14 14:32:50
125.   Eric Stephen
This means only 3 starter wins in the last 22 games for the Dodgers. Starters' ERA is only 4.35 during that time, so you would think they would by sheer luck get more than 3 wins out of that.
2008-06-14 14:32:54
126.   nick
115 marginal relievers tend to be good for a couple years and then not so good....and yeah, somebody was blogging the Yanks as "Scott Proctor's Arm" a couple years back....
2008-06-14 14:33:14
127.   Ken Noe
Dear Ken:

I'm leaving Scott in, no matter what.

Joe

PS: I'll get Sweeney in today too.

2008-06-14 14:34:46
128.   underdog
120 - No, I wouldn't give up yet either, even if it's the Dodgers we're talking about.

Although my cat did just make a statement of sorts about what he thinks, and it's not pretty.

Be right back.

2008-06-14 14:35:12
129.   Ken Noe
121 Maybe he's brokering that Ordonzez for Kemp deal.
2008-06-14 14:35:32
130.   Eric Stephen
127
At least Joe took the time to respond.
2008-06-14 14:35:35
131.   underdog
I told you, EWSP would make much more sense these days.
2008-06-14 14:36:53
132.   Eric Stephen
Let's have every possible thing bad happen, OK?

Also, most of Berroa's throws tend to sink or tail at the end.

2008-06-14 14:37:18
133.   Eric Stephen
131
As opposed to EMHCK.
2008-06-14 14:37:55
134.   underdog
For those of you watching on TV, was that previous play where the runner scored Berroa's fault or Martin's? Sounds like the throw was on target but low?

It's really hard to tell when Steiner and Monday are explaining things to you.

2008-06-14 14:38:25
135.   underdog
HCK?
2008-06-14 14:38:35
136.   Alex41592
132 - Oh, you just had to know that would happen.
2008-06-14 14:39:04
137.   thinkblue88
Worst dodger game of the year?
2008-06-14 14:39:18
138.   underdog
Jeez.

Maybe we can trade Berroa and Proctor and Penny for some cows and magic beans.

That last one sounded like Martin's fault though.

2008-06-14 14:39:46
139.   underdog