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Furcal To Have Surgery - On to Plan G
2008-07-02 22:19
by Jon Weisman

My dad had severe back problems a few years back that made surgery seem inevitable. He worked his way through without having it, but then again, he wasn't trying to play shortstop for the Los Angeles Dodgers.

Rafael Furcal is, however, and he'll have surgery Thursday to relieve pressure on a disc. He'll be out at least two more months. I haven't written much about the shortstop situation since he's been hurt because frankly, I'm at a loss. There's what we call a dearth out there, and it hasn't helped that backup plans Chin-Lung Hu, Tony Abreu, Luis Maza, Angel Berroa and Nomar Garciaparra haven't yet been able to fill the gap. I mean, the gap is like this (my arms are stretched real wide), and they've been like this (real close now).

Garciaparra is working his way back to the active roster in theory, but in the Associated Press article linked above, you can see even Joe Torre doesn't believe he can play every day. A trade is possible, though the outfielders and third basemen are probably safe for now given Juan Pierre's injury and the lack of alternatives at the hot corner. More likely, a pitcher would be the bait.

But I don't get into trade speculation - too many unknowns. What I can do is bring up a name that others in the comments have been brandishing for a few days: Ivan DeJesus, Jr. I've ignored him as a possibility because it would be way ahead of schedule for a 21-year-old with 80 games of experience at AA to become the starter for a Dodger team that, believe it or not, is only 1 1/2 games out of first place. But this is the year of Blake DeWitt, and so we can't say that stranger things haven't happened.

DeJesus (and isn't he a nice-looking lad) has an on-base percentage of .420 in the minors for Jacksonville this season - and Jacksonville isn't known for its offense. That's nearly a 50-point improvement from his 2007 season in A ball. I don't think it's stretching things to say that this is a big leap forward, and I don't know how much to trust it. But it does at least make it viable that he could be worth a shot in the majors. Forgive me, but I couldn't resist making this perhaps irrelevant comparison: Russell Martin had a .361 OBP in A ball at age 21 and improved to .430 in AA ball at age 22. Of course, Martin didn't come to the Dodgers until the following year, when he started the season in AAA. But the Dodgers don't need DeJesus to hit like Martin. They just need him to hit like a sentient being.

I'm always partial to giving the in-house option a shot before looking outside for help. Independent of that, what I'd really like to see is the Dodgers lose their dependence on offense from their shortstop. With Pierre out, the Dodger outfield has a chance to be more productive. (I won't get into Andruw Jones apparently imminent return, because again, that's too much of a wild card right now.) But it would sure help if the Dodgers could get their young third basemen to hit, to take the pressure off their potentially even younger shortstop. One weak bat in the lineup before the pitcher, the team can handle.

For at least a few days more, it could be Luis Maza and Angel Berroa holding down the fort, and then Garciaparra stepping in. But DeJesus, I suspect, could outplay Maza and Berroa now. So maybe his time is coming, even if it's as a part-timer. DeJesus is scheduled to play in the Futures Game July 13. It sure would be something if he were called up before then.

Update: Last year, Chin-Lung Hu had a .380 on-base percentage but a .508 slugging percentage at AA, at age 23. I don't think we saw the real Hu on offense this season.

Comments (148)
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2008-07-02 22:46:02
1.   Gagne55
Nomah!
2008-07-02 22:51:28
2.   Linkmeister
He looks like neither Russ Tamblyn nor George Chakiris (nor Richard Beymer, for that matter); he can't be from Puerto Rico!
2008-07-02 22:52:15
3.   Bob Timmermann
Plan G? Ah, yes. Plan G deals with the resurrection of the dead. Long distance electrodes shot into the pineal and pituitary gland of the recently dead.
2008-07-02 22:52:57
4.   Bluebleeder87
I really doubt lightning will strike twice [DeWitt] but I'd rather have an in house solution.

Panic moves = bad moves...

2008-07-02 22:55:39
5.   Bluebleeder87
DeJesus on base parentage compared to Russell's at the same age is pretty encouraging but I'm gonna be realistic & see how things go day by day.
2008-07-02 22:55:43
6.   natepurcell
Carlos Santana hits another homerun.

tonight: 3-7 2b, hr (11)

He's slugging .564 on the season with excellent plate discipline. He is breaking out in a HUGE way.

2008-07-02 22:56:26
7.   GoBears
4. Well put, Bluebleeder.

Give Russ a shot at short!

2008-07-02 22:57:00
8.   KG16
D'oh, lost a comment by the NPUT. I'll try to recreate it here...

we've heard a lot over the last few years about guys going to lighter bats to increase bat speed. but I'm wondering about a trend the other way.

F=m*a
p=m*v

however, you want to look at it from a physics standpoint.

At some point the increase in velocity or acceleration won't make up for the loss in mass. Where is that point? And would a singles hitter (like say Ivan DeJesus, Jr., or I don't know, Juan Pierre?) benefit from going with a heavier bat? Would the increase mass actually generate more force or momentum (the "p" in the equation above)?

2008-07-02 22:57:51
9.   Jon Weisman
3 - I just watched the first two episodes of this show:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0844441/

It's kooky and features a Sookie!

2008-07-02 22:59:09
10.   underdog
At this point I think it may be time for Plan 9.
2008-07-02 22:59:13
11.   sporky
8 The extra mass of the bat would decrease the acceleration (and velocity), thus reducing the force and momentum respectively. They may or may not cancel each other out.
2008-07-02 23:00:23
12.   underdog
Argh, if only DeWitt or LaRoche could play short. I really don't think they could over the long haul, but darn that would solve things. Well, let's see how Nomar fares. And then...

Plan 9.

Jack Wilson!

2008-07-02 23:00:39
13.   underdog
Or Jack Steffan!
2008-07-02 23:01:24
14.   Bob Timmermann
Jack Steffanino?
2008-07-02 23:01:59
15.   sporky
A-Rod has allegedly split with his wife. Both of his daughters have 'Alexander' as middle names.
2008-07-02 23:02:53
16.   Bluebleeder87
speaking of breaking out I'm using this new product called "Stemulite" & I gotta tell you I'm breaking out like a teenager with pimples in my four head & on the sides. It's either that or my local barber isn't sanitizing the blade he uses when he shaves my sides.

I gotta muster up the courage to ask 'em though.

2008-07-02 23:03:24
17.   Bob Timmermann
I think the adverb you want there is "reportedly."

It's not like split with your wife is a crime.

2008-07-02 23:04:43
18.   sporky
It might be if she dumps you for Lenny Kravitz.
2008-07-02 23:05:28
19.   KG16
11 - I know that the increased mass will decrease acceleration/velocity, but by how much?
2008-07-02 23:06:34
20.   Jon Weisman
We're a step away from me talking about Lisa Bonet again.
2008-07-02 23:09:15
21.   Johnny Nucleo
If Berroa and Maza are "holding down the fort", it must be "Fort Necessity". And it's going about as well for the Dodgers as it did for George Washington.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Necessity

2008-07-02 23:10:11
22.   sporky
19 Since athletes are opting for lighter bats, golf clubs, tennis rackets and the like, I think the loss in acceleration/velocity could be significant.
2008-07-02 23:12:07
23.   Johnny Nucleo
10 Bill Lee is not an option at shortstop.
2008-07-02 23:12:40
24.   kirk gibson
Oh how I yearn for the offensive prowess of Alfredo Griffin and Mariano Duncan.
2008-07-02 23:18:22
25.   tjdub
9-There can only be one t.v. Sookie and she's Lorelai's best friend.
2008-07-02 23:20:48
26.   underdog
24 I don't, but hey, Mariano is in the vicinity; if they go to plan Z, it may be him.
2008-07-02 23:32:28
27.   Linkmeister
26 Er, who's older, Mariano or Bowa? They each played shortstop, right?
2008-07-02 23:34:40
28.   Bob Timmermann
Bowa is 18 years old than Duncan.

Duncan is only 2 years older than me. And I'm only 2 years older than Jeff Kent.

2008-07-02 23:48:25
29.   Linkmeister
Well then. Hey, I saw Tommy Davis in one of those Dodgers retrospectives on Prime Ticket; I wonder if he can still play.
2008-07-02 23:57:26
30.   Louis in SF
Nice post Jon.

You think the Yankees would be interested in taking Proctor back for Wilson B? Don't know if we could pry away Willy Aybar from Tampa Bay?

However on more serious note what always frustrates me about the Dodgers in comparison to the A's is exactly the case you make for Ivan DeJesus, no reason he couldn't come up and with Nomar and Mazza, between the three of them we might be able to piece it together. If DeJesus doesn't cut it you send him down and yes we may lose one year, but in the long run that is better than making a bad trade for at best a BELOW average SS.

Hu was supposed to be seeing another eye doctor, and perhaps there is a simple solution to his eye problem. He definitely showed far more offense last year.

While we all laugh at possible Duncan and Bowa being replacements, the question that can't be laughed at is why the Dodger medical staff either misses these diagnosis or how players are able to not disclose the true extent of their injuries.

2008-07-03 00:08:31
31.   dsfan
Not all scouts are sold on De Jesus' defense as it projects for the majors. Might end up at 2B, not saying he couldn't do somewhat OK, but his defense isn't a lock.
2008-07-03 00:10:14
32.   dsfan
My favorite Gulf Coast League prospect is Beyker Fructuoso. What a cool name. And he's a converted OF with a good arm and some aptitude, maybe another James McDonald.
2008-07-03 00:13:46
33.   dsfan
30- I aggree that the Dodgers should not feel desperate. Looking at the division, they're the team to beat. Seriously.
2008-07-03 00:22:23
34.   CanuckDodger
31 -- What is your source for that proposition, if you don't mind? I have read nothing about some scouts doubting DeJesus' SS defense. The only thing that I have read is that his arm is only average for SS, but that is not a big deal.
2008-07-03 00:28:43
35.   Louis in SF
A slight backtrack on my earlier post. according to Diamond's story on Furcal the Dodgers are indeed considering DeJesus for SS duty.
2008-07-03 01:15:14
36.   Neal Pollack
Put me in, coach. I'm ready to play. Today.

Please, please, Ned, don't make any stupid moves. Please, Joe, put the right lineup forward. I can deal with the season failing if the players don't quite make it to the end, but I just can't tolerate any more organizational stupidity.

2008-07-03 02:08:47
37.   whodat807
It's a sad state of affairs when I'm feverishly waiting for Nomar and Andruw to return to inject some much needed offense into the lineup.

Seriously though, Nomar may no longer be an everyday player, but there is no way he can be as bad as Berroa. And while I'm not going to be making any bets on Jones' hitting, it will be nice to have his glove in centerfield again.

Of course, the way this season's been going (and really, this past decade), they'll both suffer some terrible freak injury and miss the rest of the season.

2008-07-03 03:35:30
38.   Eric Enders
I've never seen any legitimate source question DeJesus's ability to stick at shortstop. His defense has always been regarded as a plus. That said, he's no Chin-Lung Hu.

Speaking of which, why not just give Hu until August 1 to clear his head at Las Vegas and then give him the shortstop job again? It's very clear that he's a better hitter than he's shown so far. And even with the putrid offense he displayed, his overall performance has been far and away the best of the three failed Furcal replacements.

2008-07-03 04:55:33
39.   CanuckDodger
38 -- You're forgetting about Hu's vision problem. He had the problem when he hit so poorly in 2006, and I bet his poor performance this year can be attributed to it recurring (he probably kept silent about it rather than jeopardize his big league roster spot). Anyway, until that problem is resolved, there is no use counting on Hu for anything
2008-07-03 04:57:55
40.   Ken Noe
Kershaw is sent down but Torre says he'll be back soon. Meanwhile, Furcal seems done and Ned is confirmed to be looking for a replacement. I agree with Jon, with JP out it looks like a projected deal for a starter to me, maybe someone who can play short or second next year depending on how other players develop. But who's out there?
2008-07-03 05:59:39
41.   goofus
6 Santana might solve the third base problem by waving his magic wand and turning Martin into a full time third baseman in a year or two...
2008-07-03 06:10:35
42.   goofus
9 Mass increases on a linear function but velocity increases on a squared function, so lighter/faster is always going to win on paper but that may not be the result we want. Remember in Man of La Mancha, "Whether the rock hits the vessel or the vessel hits the rock, it's always bad for the vessel" or something to that effect. In the case of bats and balls, the energy must be transferred to the ball; in too many cases the bat itself lacks the toughness to survive the moment of impact and subsequently shatters, "burning" a lot of the impact energy in an inefficient manner. In aluminum bats, for instance, the lighter the better.
2008-07-03 06:57:30
43.   Bluebleeder87
42 from my experience, lighter is better BUT it depends on the quality of the bat as well.
2008-07-03 06:59:38
44.   Bluebleeder87
42 I'm talking about the aluminum side of your discussion.
2008-07-03 07:12:28
45.   old dodger fan
Let's see if I have this right.

When Andruw is activated, since he is on the 15 day DL thus on the 40 man roster, we will have to drop one person from the 25-man but not the 40. I assume we will continue to carry 4 OFers thus Repko and Young would seem the best candidates but I think Young is out of options so Repko is the best candidate for Vegas.

When Nomar comes back its a bit more complicated since he is on the 60 day DL and does not count toward the 40 man roster. Best candidates to go down would be Sweeney, Berroa or Maza. Room on the 40 man roster could be created for Nomar by moving Furcal to the 60 day DL but I would assume that whoever goes down among those 3 would be DFAed so it is not necessary. My vote is for Sweeney.

2008-07-03 07:13:17
46.   Marty
I'm writing Furcal off from ever playing effectively again. I've been fighting a bulging disk for a year now, trying to avoid surgery. From what I read, you look at surgery only when the pain becomes unbearable and you've exhausted every other type of treatment. Then, it rarely gets rid of all the pain. The goal is to make it manageable. I think Furcal is going for the surgery to try to save his free-agency. I don't blame him. I'd probably do the same in the same situation, but I doubt it will work. If he comes back at all, he'll be worse than Nomar. I could be very wrong but I think he's done.
2008-07-03 07:19:52
47.   old dodger fan
Lots of people get relief from back pain from surgery, though not many of them play professional sports. I can't recall players coming back from this though there must be some. Finally, a baseball situation without a stat!
2008-07-03 07:23:52
48.   Ken Noe
I've never known anyone who recovered quickly from back surgery. To be sure, none of them were athletes, but one was a Marine officer who was in pretty good shape. I don't expect to see Furcal in blue again, sadly, unless we get a huge discount this winter.
2008-07-03 07:31:39
49.   timm
I had the same procedure in 00' and have enjoyed 8 wonderful painless years. I was fully healed in 8 weeks and played golf 8 weeks to the day of the surgery. Of course playing golf and major league baseball are just a bit different. My point is, I've had 8 great years without even thinking about my back.
2008-07-03 07:32:46
50.   JoeyP
Looks like the Furcal era is over for the Dodgers.

At 3/39, even from what appeared to be a good gamble the Dodgers lost.

They got Furcal's career year in 2006.
A terrible Furcal in 2007.
And 1.5 months of a great Furcal, followed by no Furcal in 2008.

Raffy, we hardly knew ye.

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2008-07-03 07:36:42
51.   Doctor
One of the few good NedCo moves just went up in smoke. Are there ANY winners left? Maybe Kuroda?
2008-07-03 07:42:13
52.   rockmrete
Call me crazy, but if I am McCourt Ned gets nowhere near the checkbook anymore. And I hope he is smart enough to keep him from doing any more damage to the organization wiith any desparate moves.
2008-07-03 07:44:35
53.   D4P
I'm writing Furcal off from ever playing effectively again

It will be interesting to see which GM gives him a big paycheck next year.

2008-07-03 07:48:19
54.   old dodger fan
53 And we will all gnash our teeth if he signs somewhere in the division for 3/39 and has three 2006's.
2008-07-03 07:50:56
55.   D4P
54
If he signs somewhere in the division for 3/39, and that somewhere is not LA, he will have three 2006's.

If he signs somewhere in the division for 3/39, and that somewhere is LA, he will have three 2007's.

2008-07-03 08:05:22
56.   old dodger fan
55 If he wants something like 3/39 and is not interested in an incentive laden contract would you:

A) give him what he wants
B) offer him arbitration
C) wish him well and move on

2008-07-03 08:06:27
57.   Louis in SF
39
Diamond says that Hu is supposed to see an eye doctor this week. Does anyone know the exact problem Hu has with his eyes.
2008-07-03 08:09:56
58.   JoeyP
I'm not even sure if the Dodgers would want to offer Furcal arbitration now for a couple reasons:

#1. He's not going to be a type A free agent, so there's not the good draft picks to look forward too.

#2. If he takes the arbitration, he's probably looking at a deal of at least 14/15 mils for the 2009 year. Thats just not a very good gamble to take on a player that might be done.

2008-07-03 08:13:14
59.   Ghost of Carlos Perez
54 Was Furcal's 2006 worth $13 million? I think our recent shortstops' performance has caused us to think back on 2006 a little too fondly.

I think it was reasonable to expect/hope for an OPS+ of around 100 from Furcal. That would make a huge difference on this team, but Furcal is really only an average hitter (above average for a shortstop).

I guess I feel that losing Furcal hurts so much not because he is so good, but because everyone else has been so bad.

2008-07-03 08:13:40
60.   ToyCannon
31
That is bunk. Hope your not basing that on the number of errors he committed last year. As Canuck has said, not one published scout has said anything about DeJesus not being able to play SS. From my favorite scout breaking down the future league team:

"Ivan DeJesus (SS, LAD) follows in a line of strong defensive shortstops in the Dodgers' system. The 20 year-old is fundamentally sound and possesses range in all directions and average arm strength. He has a good bit of athleticism, but is only an average runner. His offense has improved immensely in just a year's time, as he is making better contact and drawing more walks. He lacks the secondary skills of power and speed, so his offense will be predicated on his BA/OBP. If he can maintain a respectable OBP, his bat handling abilities could suit him well in the number two hole. "

2008-07-03 08:14:23
61.   ToyCannon
41
Or Carlos could move back to 3rd base where he started from just like Russ. Absolute gun for an arm.
2008-07-03 08:17:04
62.   JoeyP
Carlos Santana hits another homerun.

You got that right.
The 22yr old catcher at Class A Inland Empire has these numbers:

.319/.426/.564
11Hrs
53bbs
44Ks

Is it too early to tell Russ Martin that his future with the Dodgers is at 2nd base ala Biggio?

Santana, DeJesus have to be in the lead for Dodgers Minor League POY.

2008-07-03 08:23:37
63.   Ghost of Carlos Perez
What are people's thoughts on the going rate for players of differing skill levels (relative to their positions)?

It seems like a rough breakdown would look like this:
below average (but serviceable): 4 million
average: 6 million
above average (but not great): 10 million
all star: 15 million
superstar: 18 million

Although, I suppose it is generally the case that the winning bidder overpaid for the player.

2008-07-03 08:24:06
64.   JoeyP
The nice thing about Santana is he is a switch hitter, and appears to be good from both sides, though LH he just just dominates.

As a RH: .343/.375/.522
67Abs, 11ks/3bbs 1HR

As a LH: .311/.439/.578
206Abs, 33Ks/50bbs, 10HRs

He's listed about the size of Beltre:
5'11 170#s. Doesnt seem very stout for a catcher, but his bat at that position would be a major asset.

2008-07-03 08:26:34
65.   Michael Green
What worries me about not going in-house is that Ned Colletti seems to have the magic touch when it comes to bringing in players from the outside: everything he touches turns to injury.
2008-07-03 08:43:44
66.   ToyCannon
65
Only because I hate the word "everything" or "always" but Magic Marlon and Maddux do not fall into your all inclusive net.
A high percentage of his in - season deals have been awful but he did hit a home run with two of them. Bad(Hendrickson), Bad(Lugo), Great(Marlon), Great(Maddux), Bad(Proctor), Bad(Sweeney), Bad(Loaiza). Only Lugo was injured.

Wilson Betemit was last seen playing SS for the Yankees.

2008-07-03 08:56:32
67.   old dodger fan
66 Good (or pretty good)-
Signed Lofton
Signed Saito
Kent extension
Declined Gagne
Signed Wolf
Signed Park
Signed Kuroda
2008-07-03 08:58:49
68.   El Lay Dave
65 He's King Midas with a curse (all he touches turns to dust)
He's King Midas in reverse (all he touches turns to dust)
2008-07-03 09:01:55
69.   fiddlestick
My money's on Visquel for a PTBNL
2008-07-03 09:06:55
70.   El Lay Dave
66 At least Lugo was a Type-A FA when he left; the draft picks becoming Withrow and Adkins. On the other hand, those picks coming in may have made losing the #22 overall for signing Schmidt more palatable, if that was even a consideration.
2008-07-03 09:15:33
71.   guy clinch
Vizquel has an OPS+ of 7. How is that even possible??
2008-07-03 09:16:34
72.   68elcamino427
This is an interesting situation. The injuries to Abreu and Hu are key to the lack of depth in the middle infield. What will happen if Kent goes down? That's for this season.

Next season Shortstop and Second base need to be manned.

I'd be surprised if the Dodgers haven't been exploring ways of filling these needs with other teams since Furcal first went down. Berroa was all that the Dodgers could get for next to nothing.

Who are the FA middle infielders that will be making themselves available for next season?

If you want to see what this group of kids can do for the rest of the season can DeJesus Jr. be any worse with the bat than Berroa? He might be as nifty at the plate as Maza.

2008-07-03 09:21:10
73.   Bumsrap
I don't think Ned will be allowed to increase the budget so if he brings a person with a big paycheck he will have to trade a person with a big paycheck. I don't see him trading a youth for a veteran.

With Kent and Furcal and Nomar probably not being back next year and Hu and Abreu now more of a question mark along with Jones, I can see trades in the off season for veterans using the Kent, Furcal, Lowe, and Nomar money.

2008-07-03 09:22:28
74.   still bevens
69 I see your Vizquel and raise you an Uribe.
2008-07-03 09:24:56
75.   rockmrete
I like your idea of Martin at second, his bat at second is a bigger asset than at 3B. If Santana, and May could handle the catching the Ds would be that much better.

Why has it taken so long for Hu to have a second opinion on his vision problems.

And lets give DeJesus a shot.

2008-07-03 09:27:34
76.   berkowit28
Per Diamond:

Kemp, CF
Ethier, RF
Martin, C
Kent, 2B
Loney, 1B
DeWitt, 3B
Young, LF
Maza, SS
Billingsley, P

2008-07-03 09:28:20
77.   scareduck
58 - also, Furcal can't have his salary subtracted by more than something like 25% in arbitration IIRC. So there's pretty substantial reason for the Dodgers to waive arbitration.
2008-07-03 09:29:22
78.   scareduck
62 - don't get too excited by Cal League offensive numbers. cough Brandon Wood cough.
2008-07-03 09:31:33
79.   scareduck
76 - he says that's "just a guess".
2008-07-03 09:32:49
80.   blue22
72 - Who are the FA middle infielders that will be making themselves available for next season?

2B - Mark Ellis, Orlando Hudson, Felipe Lopez, Mark Grudzielanek
SS - Adam Everett, Edgar Renteria (Det has an option), Cristian Guzman, and a trio of ex-LA SS's: Furcal, Cora, and Izturis.

2008-07-03 09:34:50
81.   Gilberto Reyes
Are we all in agreement that there is no chance the Dodgers will resign Furcal after this season?
2008-07-03 09:35:51
82.   D4P
79
What he actually says is "Just a hunch, but stay tuned for injury updates...".

So, does the hunch refer to the lineup, or to the possibility of injury updates?

2008-07-03 09:35:57
83.   schoffle
How bad does DeWitt have to be before Torre gives LaRoche a shot?
2008-07-03 09:37:03
84.   Jon Weisman
79 - That's the lineup I have from the Dodgers.
2008-07-03 09:37:28
85.   rockmrete
78

Didn't Wood always have high strike out numbers?

2008-07-03 09:37:42
86.   Gilberto Reyes
I think calling up DeJesus for a little ML action would be a good thing. It would also help the team by giving them a chance to evaluate an internal solution at SS for next year. Hu or DeJesus.
2008-07-03 09:38:28
87.   D4P
83
I think it's safe to conclude that Torre is both (1) unaware of, and (2) uninterested in the respective minor league performances of DeWitt and LaRoche. All Torre knows/cares about is what he has seen this season, which means that DeWitt is better than LaRoche in Torre's eyes.
2008-07-03 09:39:24
88.   ToyCannon
77
I'd offer Furcal arbitration. The only thing I would not do is offer him a multi-year deal.
2008-07-03 09:39:32
89.   blue22
81 - Well, they won't offer him arbitration - far too risky with little upside - but that doesn't mean he won't come back. Would another team give him a multi-year deal, considering his track record now? If not, LA seems just as likely to land him as anyone else. He seems to have enjoyed his time here, and his best bud is Andruw Jones.
2008-07-03 09:40:07
90.   Gilberto Reyes
83 I would like to see LaRoche start every day too. Give him the opportunity that DeWitt had in April by starting every game and see what happens.
2008-07-03 09:40:51
91.   ToyCannon
87
And until Andy actually does something that will remain true. Andy needs to do something against these LHP.
2008-07-03 09:41:56
92.   blue22
88 - That's about a $12M guarantee there, should he accept. I guess we'd need to see if he's able to come back this year and how he performs, but that seems awfully risky.

What is Furcal's salary this year? His average is $13M/year, but ESPN has $15.7M for this year. His contract was backloaded, I believe.

2008-07-03 09:43:50
93.   Gilberto Reyes
89 A one year deal with incentives for games played would be nice. But if DeJesus comes up and plays well, they will probably say goodbye to Furcal.
2008-07-03 09:46:03
94.   Gilberto Reyes
92 A $12M guarantee to a shortstop coming off back surgery who relies on speed and athleticism on defense would be a crazy move.
2008-07-03 09:46:42
95.   faner