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*$500,000 Chad Billingsley
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$500,000 Chan Ho Park
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An Ironic Burst of Optimism About Sports Fans Online
2008-07-06 21:57
by Jon Weisman

I'm pretty sure it's been said recently that sports fans on the Internet have no shame, morals, ethics, common courtesy or some combination of the above. But apparently, when we go to the games themselves, we're princes - or so the Dodgers are kind enough to believe (or naive enough to hope).

Dylan Hernandez of the Times has a follow-up story on the previously mentioned TravelZoo promotion that makes available tickets for this week's Dodger home games at prices as low as $3. He writes:

Under the latest promotion, offered by Dodgers.com to Travelzoo.com members, $16 reserved seats cost $3, $20 lower reserved seats $6, $28 infield reserved $9 and $50 field box seats $18. To purchase tickets, fans can log onto (the site) and use the promotion code TZOOJULY.

Steve Shiffman, the Dodgers' vice president of ticket sales, said the method of distributing tickets wouldn't attract the kind of fans who misbehaved and prompted the cancellation of the once-popular promotion that included $2 right-field pavilion seats on Tuesday nights.

Because this promotion is Internet-based, Shiffman said, "You're targeting an affluent crowd, a computerized crowd."

I'm making no predictions whatsoever for this week's games, but I'm not convinced that the Internet is a rich man's playground or that drunken louts can't click the little blue link. However, I sincerely hope for the best, because it's true - we're not all Deadspin commenters. Nice to get the benefit of the doubt for a change!

And yes, by the way, it does appear that TravelZoo is getting sufficient publicity for its efforts.

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Howard Cole of Baseball Savvy got some nice ink tonight about his quest for a Sandy Koufax statue at Dodger Stadium in a Times package concerning monuments at baseball parks.

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2008-07-06 22:09:35
1.   Bob Timmermann
Steve Shiffman needs to come to my workplace sometime.
2008-07-06 22:10:59
2.   ToyCannon
Seems like a good time for a group package. I wonder if there is a limit on the tickets.
2008-07-06 22:11:48
3.   natepurcell
I want to go to a Dodgers game this week. Let me know if any of you guys don't have tickets you want to sell off.
2008-07-06 22:12:17
4.   natepurcell
Or maybe I should just buy the absurdly cheap tickets available above.
2008-07-06 22:12:45
5.   Bob Timmermann
I'll be the guy wearing spats at the game Thursday sitting a few rows in front of bhsportsguy.

But he won't be able to see around my top hat.

2008-07-06 22:15:09
6.   Fallout
Bulletin: In an unexpected move today the Dodgers announced the signing of Barry Bonds. Ned Colletti, the Dodger general manager, said that they were in need of a power hitter and when he heard that Bonds had been playing shortstop he sent his scouts out to take a look. Apparently they liked what they saw.
Bonds, who had been desperate to get back into baseball, said that he saw a need in the Dodger organization and started working out at the position in the past couple months. His efforts have paid off and will report to his new team on Monday.
2008-07-06 22:15:37
7.   ToyCannon
That is one less thing the anti-McCourt group can complain about. He certainly is making the seating affordable for a family.
2008-07-06 22:15:43
8.   Linkmeister
I can't make it, so it would be a nice gesture if somebody wore a Reyn or Tori Richards shirt in my honor. ;)

Statuary: Frank White?

2008-07-06 22:16:38
9.   ToyCannon
I always felt we should have signed Barry just to twist the needle into the Giant fans.
2008-07-06 22:20:45
10.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers won't put up a statue unless they get to do their modifications to the stadium. Since the stadium doesn't have a single entrance, there's no place to put a statue for people to see it.

I think the Cardinals lead the majors in statues. Musial, Gibson, Schoendienst, Slaughter, and Jack Buck all have statues. There could be more.

The Reds have several at their new park also.

The Gene Autry statue in Anaheim always seems like something of an afterthought.

2008-07-06 22:23:53
11.   Greg Brock
I'm fairly confident there will be a statue of Jackie Robinson or Vin Scully at Dodger Stadium before I die.

Or..you know...A statue of the fans.

2008-07-06 22:25:18
12.   Icaros
I was involved in the Kuo Wars years ago, but that was only because Greg wasn't giving him much credit. I always liked Billingsley, too.

I usually side with Greg on LaRoche/DeWitt, but the issue is at times a white whale for him.

2008-07-06 22:25:29
13.   bhsportsguy
4 If you want to go to Thursday's game, I have an extra ticket.
2008-07-06 22:25:43
14.   ToyCannon
They could put the statue in front of Canters so that only those affluent enough to afford those seats can genuflect. Why waste a statue on the kind of people who buy tickets on a walk up basis.
2008-07-06 22:25:56
15.   Icaros
Or..you know...A statue of the fans.

I call shotgun!

2008-07-06 22:27:19
16.   Jon Weisman
Hey, the oft-maligned widget has been upderated!
2008-07-06 22:27:46
17.   Greg Brock
12 Kuo was just the girl with the curl for me. Two surgeries, brilliant stuff, injured.

After Dreifort, I didn't think I could love again. I've been hurt before.

2008-07-06 22:27:46
18.   ToyCannon
11
It was only the spring of 2007. Don't make us older then we really are.
I'm ready for Canuck to remind us how stupid we were for even raising the idea that Kuo might have as much talent as Chad.
2008-07-06 22:30:06
19.   Icaros
18

I remembered it as a Winter 06 debate, but fair enough. You agreed with me...deal with it.

2008-07-06 22:30:12
20.   ToyCannon
17
Are you teaching summer school? I heard it starts tomorrow but that is for LAUSD.
2008-07-06 22:31:25
21.   Icaros
17

For me, there was no going back after the bat flip. I wonder if he got my flowers?

2008-07-06 22:32:25
22.   Greg Brock
17 Not enough kids enrolled, so I lost the summer gig. Which, aside from the money I lost, is actually fine by me.

AP Summer Institute all next week though. In Long Beach.

2008-07-06 22:33:38
23.   bhsportsguy
20 He told us last week of his sad tale of his summer school class being cancelled and then lots of dental work.
2008-07-06 22:35:01
24.   Greg Brock
23 I didn't mention it here. Yeah, wisdom teeth pulled, summer school canceled, 101 degree fever for three days.

The end of June was a harsh mistress. I took it out on Blake DeWitt, naturally.

2008-07-06 22:36:46
25.   ToyCannon
Four years ago my wife had 5 fourth grade teachers. Now they are down to 2 and a split.
2008-07-06 22:38:50
26.   Icaros
25

At first read I thought that comment had something to do with fertility drugs.

2008-07-06 22:39:50
27.   ToyCannon
After Blake who else do you have it in for that has yet to see the major leagues. Jamie Hoffman or Jamie Pedroza. I've never been a big fan of the name Jamie. Is that a good enough reason?
2008-07-06 22:40:15
28.   bhsportsguy
24 Oops, sorry, see what happens when affluent people mix up their sources of wireless information.

It would be a lot easier if I had to rely on George Washington's personal courier relay my correspondence.

2008-07-06 22:43:10
29.   Greg Brock
27 I haven't decided yet. The enemies list doesn't get updated until fiscal year '09, which starts in October for me.

I can't go creating personal vendettas willy-nilly.

2008-07-06 22:46:58
30.   CanuckDodger
18 -- Do you remember me saying something I don't remember? I honestly don't know what you are talking about.
2008-07-06 22:53:17
31.   ToyCannon
30
You were Chad's biggest backer. I'm just projecting what you would have said to us if you had read the thread where we felt that Kuo had as much talent as Chad based on the Sept 06 pitching that Kuo did in the rotation.
2008-07-06 22:58:31
32.   CanuckDodger
31 -- Kuo probably had more talent than Chad when he signed him, but all the injuries to Kuo's elbow make it difficult to compare them. One thing that doesn't get said enough about Billz is his durability. No arm injury of any kind in five years. That is pretty amazing for a hard-throwing pitcher between ages 18-23, the injury nexus.
2008-07-06 22:59:05
33.   CanuckDodger
32 -- When WE sign him, that is.
2008-07-06 22:59:25
34.   Jon Weisman
32 - Knock on wood.
2008-07-06 23:01:03
35.   Icaros
After Saito steps aside, I'd like to see Kuo and Broxton used as a two-headed, three-inning closer duo.

Start the seventh with one, based on matchups, let him try for two innings, or pass the baton in the 8th if he gets into too much trouble.

They can trade off. One monster from each side.

2008-07-06 23:01:57
36.   Greg Brock
Kuo had TJ twice, and has four total surgeries on the one elbow (unless I'm off, which I'm sure will be corrected in a nanosecond).

He'll always be house money to me.

2008-07-06 23:05:06
37.   Icaros
36

Those chips can be made to look rather nice. Circus Circus had pink ones.

2008-07-06 23:08:16
38.   Greg Brock
I just naturally assumed everybody else was waiting for Kuo to get hurt again.

I'm still waiting on Brad Penny to come off the bump holding his elbow again.

2008-07-06 23:08:51
39.   underdog
32 But... but... Will Carroll says that Billingsley is constantly on the verge of surgery, or surge of vergery or something injury-related. It can't be!

Btw, I don't think the Kuo Wars series was William Shatner's best effort.

2008-07-06 23:10:24
40.   underdog
Oh, and it's great to be back home, even if home is in enemy territory. But at least the Dodgers beat the enemy two outta three this weekend. All is right with the world.
2008-07-06 23:13:55
41.   ToyCannon
I'm just glad he rebounded from his last surgery to make Bob's famous comment look like Crow.

I have a soft spot for Kuo because of the way he went out after his scintillating debut. I figured he was done ala Kiki Jones and then he came back. And boom he was gone again. I can still remember the little smile I got when I was perusing the minor league clubs back in 2005 and saw that he was trying another comeback.

You are right, we are playing with house money but he's packing a full house at the moment.

2008-07-06 23:14:48
42.   ToyCannon
If you do a search on Kuo at Baseball-Reference you get Sandy Koufax and Hong-Chih Kuo. How cool is that?
2008-07-06 23:19:09
43.   CanuckDodger
Hey, nobody answered the question I asked earlier about whether Troncoso pitches out of the stretch even when nobody is on base. Someone?
2008-07-06 23:22:01
44.   ToyCannon
I will watch his next appearance but I couldn't tell you right now.
2008-07-06 23:24:46
45.   KG16
10 - the Gene Autry statue was an afterthought at Angel Stadium, Disney was not much into the whole "history" aspect of baseball.
2008-07-06 23:29:03
46.   Eric Enders
"Jamie Hoffman or Jamie Pedroza. I've never been a big fan of the name Jamie. Is that a good enough reason?"

Good thing that's not Pedroza's name, then. You can still go on hating Jamie McCourt, though.

2008-07-06 23:31:42
47.   Eric Enders
So is McCourt finally over his lame-brained "statue of the fans" idea? I'm sure 99% of the people who go to Dodger Stadium would rather see a statue of Sandy Koufax or Vin Scully.

In Detroit they have a Willie Horton statue. In Cincinnati they have a Joe Nuxhall statue. In L.A. you can throw four no-hitters and singlehandedly win two World Series, and all you get is a spot in the pavilion next to Tommy Lasorda.

2008-07-06 23:39:06
48.   KG16
statues at Dodger Stadium can only lead to trouble. Sure, you start with icons like Jackie Robinson, Sandy Koufax, or Vin Scully. The next thing you know, there's a statue of Gibson rounding second doing the fist pump. Or Tommy Lasorda. And then it's Cey, Russel, Lopes, Garvey.

It'll be like St Louis, and someone will have to watch after Bob.

2008-07-06 23:40:08
49.   Indiana Jon
10 47 I've been the GABP several times, and you can't miss the statues when you enter. For the life of me though, I can't remember where a fourth statue (Kluzewski) is located. The other three, Nuxhall pitching, Lombardi catching, and Robinson hitting are very nice, but where is Ted? Any ideas?
2008-07-06 23:44:21
50.   Icaros
47

It was just an offhand, cheeseball comment he made to us when we met him last year. I never had the impression that this was something he was actually working on.

It would be hilarious if he assigned a project manager to this. I still want to know what a statue of the fans will look like.

How will we human fans get into the stadium if it's occupied by 38,000 statue fans?

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2008-07-06 23:48:52
51.   Greg Brock
51 The times piece talks about a double A team that has a statue of the fans. A family of four.

Lame.

2008-07-06 23:51:16
52.   KG16
51 - see, more common ground
2008-07-06 23:53:05
53.   Eric Enders
St. Louis has 10 statues outside. They actually had 11 made, but they decided at the last minute not to put up the McGwire statue. It's now gathering dust in the sculptor's studio.

How many teams have put up a statue of a player who never played for them? The only ones I can think of are Babe Ruth in Baltimore and Ty Cobb in Atlanta. I could see Pittsburgh putting up a Josh Gibson statue or K.C. putting up a Satchel Paige statue, though.

2008-07-06 23:53:38
54.   Greg Brock
A statue of Koufax with his high leg kick would be the bee's knees.
2008-07-06 23:54:29
55.   Greg Brock
Miller Park has an Aaron statue, right?
2008-07-06 23:55:08
56.   Eric Enders
He played for the Brew Crew.
2008-07-06 23:55:31
57.   Bob Timmermann
49
Kluszewski is standing apart from all the others statues as I recall.

There's also part of the stadium that has a quote from Kluszewski along the lines of "Have you ever walked into a dark room where you didn't know where all the furniture was and try not to trip. That's what hitting a baseball is like."

2008-07-06 23:55:47
58.   Greg Brock
55 Aaron played for the Brewers, moron.
2008-07-06 23:57:12
59.   KG16
55 - that's what the article said, that Hammering Hank is in both Atlanta and Milwaukee, which kind of makes sense.

53 - I think it'd mainly be expansion teams that replaced teams that moved that would have such statues. I could totally see the Mets putting up statues of Jackie and Ott.

2008-07-06 23:57:22
60.   Greg Brock
56 Yeah, it hit me two seconds after I hit submit.

Then I had to figure out whether to call myself and imbecile or moron. Tough call.

Half-wit was also a possibility.

2008-07-06 23:59:07
61.   KG16
I actually forgot that Aaron played for the Brewers, thought it was more about the Braves having played in Milwaukee and the commissioner owning the Brewers.
2008-07-07 00:00:01
62.   Greg Brock
Does the new Washington stadium have a Big Train statue?
2008-07-07 00:00:17
63.   Bob Timmermann
Picture of Kluszewski statue.

http://reds.enquirer.com/2003/03/27/klu_600x474.jpg

2008-07-07 00:01:26
64.   Greg Brock
I guess the Nats will have Josh Gibson, Big Train, and Frank Howard statues. Or do have them now.
2008-07-07 00:03:08
65.   Bob Timmermann
I don't mind the statues outside Busch Stadium. With the exception of Musial's, they aren't all that big. And a lot of them look pretty good. Slaughter sliding is a cool statue. The Jack Buck statue is kind of goofy.

The Gibson statue looks like it would dust you off.

My alltime favorite ballpark statue was a Buddha made into the image of slugger Alex Cabrera that used to be outside the Seibu Dome in Tokorazawa, Japan.

Cabrera has switched teams so I don't know what happened to the statue.

2008-07-07 00:05:05
66.   KG16
I just looked at Walter Johnson and Cy Young's numbers. They are mind boggling. Numbers I can't imagine anyone coming anywhere near in my lifetime.
2008-07-07 00:06:54
67.   Eric Enders
If we want to get all depressing-like, we could try to figure out how many players the Dodger farm system produced who went on to become statue-worthy for other teams.

Frank Howard. Roberto Clemente. Hodges at the new Mets park, maybe?

2008-07-07 00:06:56
68.   KG16
65 - I was just worried about your reaction to LA becoming more like St Louis.
2008-07-07 00:07:34
69.   Bob Timmermann
Johnson's best season of ERA+ has been bettered by Pedro Martinez and Greg Maddux.
2008-07-07 00:08:23
70.   Bob Timmermann
68
There's little danger of any American city becoming more like St. Louis.
2008-07-07 00:10:31
71.   Greg Brock
67 Pedro Martinez.
2008-07-07 00:11:54
72.   Eric Enders
JapanBall.com says of the Tokyo Dome: "On premises is the Baseball Cafe that boasts a huge caricature statue of Tommy Lasorda that greets you as you enter."
2008-07-07 00:12:08
73.   Linkmeister
Piazza?
2008-07-07 00:12:35
74.   KG16
Walter Johson: 417 wins, 531 CGs, 110 SHO, 5914.2 IP

Cy Young: 511 wins, 749 CG, 7354.2 IP

I know it was a different era, and some don't put much weight in those category of stats, but really, wow.

2008-07-07 00:12:35
75.   Eric Enders
(I guess if you're going to have a Lasorda statue, it might as well be in an eating establishment.)
2008-07-07 00:14:49
76.   Greg Brock
If the Dodgers put a Tom Lasorda statue at the stadium, I would be most displeased.
2008-07-07 00:16:58
77.   KG16
76 - you know it's coming, just a matter of time. Maybe we could have them do one with Walter Alston looking over his shoulder, displeased.
2008-07-07 00:17:24
78.   Eric Enders
Perhaps a large water sculpture that shows him bleeding Dodger blue.
2008-07-07 00:17:32
79.   Bob Timmermann
72
That statue wasn't there when I ate there about six years ago. I was greeted by Aussie who was wearing a Yankees cap and he sat me down for some American food and instead of chips for me to eat before my meal came, I got popcorn.

The food was ... not good.

2008-07-07 00:44:18
80.   KingKopitar
Hey, did anyone mention that Rob Blake is a terrible person? Because he is, you know.
2008-07-07 01:11:07
81.   dzzrtRatt
76 What're'ya'gonna do? He won two titles. He won four pennants. He won a bunch of division championships. Finishing first in '77, '78, '80 (tie), '81, '83, '85, '88 and '95. Plus the best record in 94. His accomplishments must be served.

He's deeply annoying. His reign was flawed. He's got some of the worst decisions in team history in his jacket. But he won, pretty consistently, and generally with something less than the best talent in the league.

2008-07-07 01:43:56
82.   overkill94
43 I'm pretty sure Troncoso only goes out of the stretch. I seem to notice when relievers actually go from the wind-up and I don't recall my spidey senses tingling when Troncoso was on the mound.
2008-07-07 01:49:44
83.   natepurcell
Kuo probably had more talent than Chad when he signed him, but all the injuries to Kuo's elbow make it difficult to compare them. One thing that doesn't get said enough about Billz is his durability. No arm injury of any kind in five years. That is pretty amazing for a hard-throwing pitcher between ages 18-23, the injury nexus.

Its the thighs.

2008-07-07 01:58:19
84.   natepurcell
From Tony Jackson..

More rumormongering

A Philadelphia scout attended Friday's game between the Dodgers and San Francisco Giants but reportedly got up and left as soon as Dodgers pitcher Derek Lowe was lifted after five innings, a clear sign the Phillies are interested in the veteran right-hander.

Lowe is in the final season of a four-year, $36million contract, and the Dodgers conceivably could move him before the July 31 trading deadline. But the Dodgers' primary need, as stated last week by general manager Ned Colletti, is an everyday shortstop, and the Phillies clearly aren't going to part with reigning NL Most Valuable Player Jimmy Rollins, who is signed through 2010.

I don't see us trading Lowe with Penny ailing and Schmidt not fully recovered.

2008-07-07 02:22:23
85.   natepurcell
If the Phillies were to put Adrian Cardenas and Dominic Brown on the table, I'd probably deal Lowe.

Their system isn't very appealing; especially the pitchers.

2008-07-07 02:27:29
86.   Michael D
We're a half game out, we're clearly not going to be sellers. Stupid 2006 Cardinals are going to make it so every .500 team in the future that isn't buried by a good team in the division will be buyers.
2008-07-07 02:58:48
87.   elandcohen
i can't wait until lowe is gone. he reminds me of ismeal valdes. always pitches good enough to lose.
2008-07-07 04:52:04
89.   Ken Noe
Why are the Dodgers suddenly winning? Because of Torre, of course! Those darn kids finally get it! http://tinyurl.com/59qcxe

Actually, if this silliness prevents trading Kemp, I can live with it.

I'd trade Lowe in a heartbeat. LA has the pitching.

2008-07-07 05:17:07
90.   D4P
89
Blech. When the team is winning, they get along and everyone's happy. When they're losing, we hear stuff about trash cans and entitlement.
2008-07-07 05:27:36
91.   D4P
The bottom line is that the team is giddy because they're only a half-game out of first place. If Arizona had been playing well all this time and were still way ahead, we wouldn't be hearing any stories about the kids buying into Torre's Winning System™ or fun clubhouse atmospheres.
2008-07-07 06:33:23
92.   Ken Noe
It's the same catch 22 that followed the Yankees. When the team loses, it's because of this player or that player, as well as the GM. When they win, it's because Joe Torre is a genius. Torre can't lose. I always assumed the NYC media was solely to blame, but I begin to wonder how much of this Torre and his lieutenants stoke themselves.
2008-07-07 06:52:50
93.   Bob Timmermann
In the words of Bill James, "Bad teams blame their best players for their problems."
2008-07-07 07:13:08
94.   D4P
Bad teams blame their best players for their problems

So true.

Funny how it seems.....Always in time, but never in line for dreams.

2008-07-07 07:19:07
95.   D4P
The Dodgers are officially more likely to make the playoffs than the DBacks, at least according to BaseballProspectus's PECOTA projections.

NL West champs:

LA: 46.5%
AZ: 46.0%

Playoffs:

LA: 47.3%
AZ: 46.8%

2008-07-07 07:36:00
96.   madmac
So, was there a norcal gathering this weekend at the game or what. Underdog?
2008-07-07 07:39:54
97.   silverwidow
July OPS:

DeWitt .343
LaRoche .708

2008-07-07 07:41:47
98.   CanuckDodger
97 -- A 6 day sample size? Okay.
2008-07-07 07:49:26
99.   D4P
Second hand, from the ESPN Dodger board.

OIney says the reason we're out for CC is that other teams have no idea who the Dodgers have in charge of decisions. He asked if it's Ned, McCourt, White, the scouts... and it's the reason we can't get deals done.

He also blasted Colletti for being very vague about which young players are available, making it impossible for other teams to even try completing a dea.

Phillips says Colletti leaves teams hanging like Sabean... Will make them feel like a deal is a day away and practically blow them off looking to make other deals with those players and nothing gets done.

Just interesting view points on all this I thought i'd share... This is from the Baseball Show on ESPN Radio today.

I only post this because, IIRC, we were led to believe that (1) Depo was responsible for this kinda stuff, and (2) it would change when we hired The Great Communicator.

2008-07-07 07:59:53
100.   Dexter Fishmore
[I]t's true - we're not all Deadspin commenters.

But those of us who are... we're still eligible for the promotion, right?

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2008-07-07 08:01:53
101.   silverwidow
Minotaur starts TODAY at 10:05 for Jacksonville.
2008-07-07 08:02:46
102.   silverwidow
98 True, it's a small sample size, but it can be seen as a continuation of DeWitt's very bad June.
2008-07-07 08:05:19
103.   silverwidow
Basically, I think Blake should be optioned. But, of course, that won't happen for whatever reason.
2008-07-07 08:07:55
104.   Gen3Blue
99 If there is much truth there it is probably beneficial in this critical period.
2008-07-07 08:08:27
105.   Indiana Jon
99 Good. As long as we keep talking about getting Jack Wilson, I hope Ned continues to be difficult to deal with and no deals get done.
2008-07-07 08:11:55
106.   cargill06
101 any updates during the game will be appreciated.
2008-07-07 08:12:41
107.   Indiana Jon
The Phillies were not very smart to give Lidge that kind if money over that many years.
2008-07-07 08:12:45
108.   jujibee
This just in on ESPN rumor mill:

According to Fox Sports' Ken Rosenthal, the Los Angeles Dodgers are seriously interested in Pittsburgh Pirates' shortstop Jack Wilson, but their pursuit will be put on hold while they restructure their offer for the infielder.

2008-07-07 08:16:45