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$10,000,000 Hiroki Kuroda
*$475,000 Chad Billingsley
*$415,000 Clayton Kershaw
*$405,000 Eric Stults
*$400,000 James McDonald
*Total: $11,695,000

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*$2,500,000 Takashi Saito
*$1,300,000 Scott Proctor
*$1,500,000 Jonathan Broxton
*$425,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
*$420,000 Cory Wade
*$410,000 Ramon Troncoso
*$400,000 Scott Elbert
Total: $6,955,000

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Yhency Brazoban
Greg Miller
Justin Orenduff

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*$3,000,000 Russell Martin
*$2,500,000 Andre Ethier
*$600,000 Matt Kemp
*$600,000 James Loney
*$500,000 Angel Berroa
*$410,000 Blake DeWitt
*$400,000 Tony Abreu
Total: $25,110,000

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$10,000,000 Juan Pierre
*$600,000 Jason Repko
*$410,000 Delwyn Young
*$400,000 Danny Ardoin
*$400,000 Chin-Lung Hu
Total: $11,810,000
Note: Team can buy out Ozuna's 2009 option for $200,000

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Lucas May
Xavier Paul

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Also Paying ...
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$50,000 Gary Bennett (buyout of $900,000 option)
Note: Kansas City is responsible for $500,000 buyout of Angel Berroa's $5,500,000 option for 2009.

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Spring Training 2009 Update
2008-07-08 23:41
by Jon Weisman

Next Tuesday is the deadline for the Dodgers to formally notify county officials representing Vero Beach about their intentions to move to Glendale, Arizona for Spring Training 2009, Laurel Scheffel of TCPalm.com reminds us.

"As of right now, it does look good (for the facility to open on time in 2009)," Dodgers vice president of spring training and minor league facilities Craig Callan said. "... The decision is not up to me, but we will definitely notify Indian River County by July 15."

The Dodgers will face a $575,000 fine for economic damages if they do not return to Vero Beach in 2009 without notification by Tuesday. ...

Although the (Arizona) facility's Nov. 19 groundbreaking was later than originally anticipated, the construction crews are making up lost time by working double shifts each day, he said.

Almost all the stadium walls are up and the two-acre pond that divides the ballpark is almost completely filled, which will provide irrigation for the fields currently being prepped for sodding.

"Everything is moving at lightning speed," Callan said. "There has been a lot of transformation out there in the last couple months."

Julie Frisoni, communications director for the city of Glendale, said the construction company, M.A. Mortenson, is sending a letter to the city guaranteeing the facility will be done in time for 2009 spring training.

However, if the Tuesday deadline passes without a change to the timeline and the ballpark is not finished by the start of spring training, Glendale will be required to pay the teams a fine of $250,000 per game, minus what the teams recoup playing elsewhere. ...

Meanwhile, Amy Sherman of the Miami Herald tracks the Baltimore Orioles' progress toward a move to Vero Beach for Spring Training 2009 or 2010.

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Tom Hoffarth of the Daily News understandably found it odd that in Tuesday's 12 noon FSN Prime Ticket replay of Monday's near-perfect game by Hiroki Kuroda, the lone hit (by Mark Texeira of Atlanta) was edited out - especially considering that the replay broadcast was only three minutes shorter than the game itself.

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2008-07-08 23:53:53
1.   Alex41592
Dodgers will change hitting coach again

Mike Easler will be replaced by Don Mattingly after the All-Star break.

With the Dodgers' offense ranking among the worst in the league, the club is expected to change hitting coaches at the All-Star break by replacing Mike Easler with Don Mattingly, according to sources close to the situation who requested anonymity because the move hasn't been finalized. Mattingly is due to take over when the Dodgers start the second half of the season in Arizona on July 18.

Manager Joe Torre declined to comment.

If Easler is dismissed, the Dodgers would have let go a hitting coach in midseason for the second consecutive year. Bill Mueller replaced Eddie Murray last June.

Easler, who is expected to be reassigned within the organization, is the Dodgers' eighth hitting coach in the last 10 seasons. The Dodgers appointed him last January, after Mattingly resigned from the coaching staff to tend to family matters amid his divorce proceedings.

Mattingly, a career .307 hitter with the New York Yankees, was on Torre's staff in New York and was signed to be his Dodgers hitting coach in November. After his resignation, he stayed on as a special assignment coach and has joined the team when it has traveled to the Midwest, near his Indiana home.

Mattingly has told the Dodgers that he is ready to coach for the rest of the season. Mattingly's agent, Ray Schulte, did not return a phone message Tuesday.

The Dodgers lead the National League in earned-run average but rank among the bottom five in runs, hits, home runs, walks, on-base percentage and slugging percentage.

2008-07-09 00:00:52
2.   Jon Weisman
1 - Next time, instead of printing the whole bit, just do a link and maybe an excerpt. And certainly credit the source. Otherwise, their story is being effectively stolen.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb/dodgers/la-sp-dodfyi9-2008jul09,0,6047902.story

2008-07-09 00:01:51
3.   Alex41592
2 - Sorry, I normally do and forgot.
2008-07-09 00:02:33
4.   Jon Weisman
3 - No worries - just a good reminder for everyone.
2008-07-09 00:05:08
5.   bhsportsguy
2 At first, I thought it was made up but the it had too much detail, so I looked for it and found it on the Times site, poor Mike Easler, he sounded so cheerful on the post-game show.

Also, that same link has some info on the CC trade, Shapiro is quoted that the Dodgers had sincere interest but it appears once it got beyond the initial 2 for 1 deal, one of the names is reportedly Andy LaRoche, it didn't meet with what the club wanted to do.

2008-07-09 00:07:56
6.   bhsportsguy
BTW, Joe from Alhambra knocked down a Dodgertalk caller's proposed trade for Matt Holliday and Garrett Atkins by using home/road splits and the stat that Holliday only has 3 home runs in Dodger Stadium in over 120 plate appearances.
2008-07-09 00:12:37
7.   Linkmeister
Completely O/T security alert: If you're a Windows XP user who got updates today and hasn't installed them yet, read my experience first.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/5mu54x

2008-07-09 00:24:53
8.   berkowit28
Yes, because I had to listen to most of last night's game on the radio, I watched the truncated version taped at 12 today. I was surprised that none of the earlier innings were omitted, only to be amazed when the whole of the 8th inning (not just Teixara's run) was removed. Given that they usually remove about 3 of the later innings, I suppose they thought they were doing us a favor waiting until the 8th. But they should have just removed one if the less consequential innings (maybe the 2nd or so) rather than the 8th which changed the game. Or, just for once, maybe they could have cut out 4 minutes of ads and shown the whole game.
2008-07-09 00:30:02
9.   Bob Timmermann
Any inning when Vin reads a sponsor's ad in it, like the AFLAC trivia question is supposed to stay in. Or the text message poll.

That gets priority because those people paid extra money to get mentioned while the game is going on.

2008-07-09 05:10:33
10.   Ken Noe
5 I wonder if the Tribe came back and told Ned he could have some other short-term rentals too if he threw in a pitcher and Kemp with Andy.
2008-07-09 06:58:49
11.   old dodger fan
7 I have 3 computers and ran the updates this morning on 2 of them before I read your post. No problems so far. You probably have a lot of applications that I don't.
2008-07-09 07:08:01
12.   PalmdaleSteve1
How about DT caravan cum road trip to Spring training '09 in Arizona as a fund raiser for DT?

Block of rooms in Peoria, nightly Adult beverages, face time with some of the "boys"....I might even go for that.

2008-07-09 07:19:30
13.   okdodge
Another off topic subject: I have an interview at work for a huge promotion in 40 minutes, I'm so nervous!!!! Ok, now I need to get back to cramming office policy for possible questions. Wish me luck :)
2008-07-09 07:22:38
14.   old dodger fan
13 Good luck.
2008-07-09 07:27:03
15.   Bob Timmermann
13
Good luck. And remember, difficult personnel problems should always be referred to H.R.

That's one of my favorite answers.

2008-07-09 07:48:48
16.   Jon Weisman
15 - I know that's who I turn to.

http://tinyurl.com/6a7xqh

2008-07-09 08:17:04
17.   Neal Pollack
That is good news about Mattingly. I feel like Easler has led many hitters astray this season.
2008-07-09 08:39:45
18.   Eric L
Saw this on ESPN's main page:

"Report: Dodgers will make Mattingly hit coach"

So which coach are they going to make him hit?

2008-07-09 08:41:16
19.   Doctor
17

Agree, only concern I have is doesn't it take weeks and months for a new coach to effect changes? Heads are spinning at this point changing coaches every year. But I guess Mattingly has been working with them on and off all year (which might have been adding to the mess).

2008-07-09 08:42:32
20.   Bob Timmermann
I'm still more concerned about the ESPN report of Brett Favre sending a text message to the Packers GM.

That's how I make my important career decisions.

2008-07-09 08:43:00
21.   KingKopitar
How important are hitting coaches?
2008-07-09 08:44:03
22.   still bevens
Mattingly seemed to have a positive effect on Andruw after you would read about the two working together. If he can make a difference with Druw and get Kemp to smoke fastballs like he did when he was first called up thats good enough for me.
2008-07-09 08:58:51
23.   dzzrtRatt
18 It's got to be Bowa. He's been cruisin' for a bruisin' since he got to town.

Bowa is Joe Torre's id, and Mattingly is his superego.

Flying eastward last night, a Yankee fan told me the best thing the Dodgers have going for them is Joe Torre. When I replied that I didn't think it was working out quite as well as I'd hoped, that in fact he's making some puzzling decisions that seem to be harmful to the team's prospects, she blamed it on L.A. "He's not an L.A. kind of guy."

So there you have it. It's not Torre, it's us.

2008-07-09 09:02:19
24.   Bob Timmermann
23
Torre is not like the quintessential L.A. guy: Walter Alston.
2008-07-09 09:02:46
25.   Bob Hendley
So, if Marky T's hit was edited out, its like it didn't happen, right?

Occasionally, I have to view the Bums using the mlb.tv archives. I try to ignore the highlights, as they usually foretell the outcome. However, once I saw a highlight that said that the benches had been cleared. I expected to see what is usually the worst of the worst, a baseball fight. But all it was was a bunch of guys milling around on the field and I assumed that it must of been a Mongo/gas incident.

2008-07-09 09:03:19
26.   underdog
I'm happy to have Mattingly back on board. I don't like the idea of any hitting coach scapegoated for a team's hitting woes, so I feel bad for Easler if that's how it feels, but it's clear Mattingly has had some positive affects on at least some of the hitters when he's consulted with them. I think this will be good.

23 Yay, Ratt found a laptop it appears. ;-)

2008-07-09 09:04:47
27.   underdog
24 Or Tommy Lasorda. That guy had LA written all over him from the moment he first got off the bus from Philly.
2008-07-09 09:08:19
28.   KingKopitar
25 Baseball fights are so boring. Nobody knows how to fight and they never even bleed. C'mon, face wash that guy!
2008-07-09 09:09:16
29.   regfairfield
So has anyone been able to figure out why the A's were willing to dump Harden for Chad Gaudin with less service time and a couple bench players?
2008-07-09 09:09:40
30.   CanuckDodger
AT BP, Will Carroll, not for the first time, says the Dodger front office is divided, and that teams don't want to deal with the Dodgers because of the confusion. Carroll claims that he has been told that at least two deals have been made that ownership stepped in and quashed.
2008-07-09 09:10:08
31.   adrian beltre
i live in new york now and its really frightening hearing their take on things, especially when those thigns enter my realm of focus like torre with the dodgers. they really, sincerely think things like torre is a winner and if he doesn't win in la its gotta have something to do with la. also frightening is the way elton brand handled his business. something must be seriously wrong with the clips.
2008-07-09 09:11:23
32.   regfairfield
I guess I kind of answered my own question if they figured Harden is going on the DL.
2008-07-09 09:13:59
33.   CanuckDodger
29 -- Isn't it obvious? Harden is damaged goods. The A's know it better than anyone, and unfortunately for the A's, everybody else around baseball knows it too. Harden will probably be on the DL in a week or two, and then the A's get nothing in trade.
2008-07-09 09:16:45
34.   CanuckDodger
33 -- Let me clarify my statement: If the A's had hung onto Harden longer they would've got nothing in trade.
2008-07-09 09:20:37
35.   dzzrtRatt
26 I'm confused. I was complaining about not having a laptop?

If I was, I was probably typing the complaints on my laptop.

I am a bit schizoid, however, so anything's possible.

Anyway...if Carroll's perception is true then good for the Dodgers. Let teams try to blow us away with trade offers. If a team really, really wants one of our guys, they need to know that only offers that will impress Colletti, Ng, White and McCourt will be considered.

2008-07-09 09:24:18
36.   regfairfield
33 Yeah, looking at it assuming Harden will barely play, the A's win the trade.
2008-07-09 09:25:51
37.   Bob Hendley
I had one of those encounters with a Yanks fan this weekend. He asked about Torre and you can tell he expected me to marvel about him. I told him that it hadn't been a smooth process. That basically we have a lot of young players and that he was still trying to get to know what he had and figure out the best way to use them. The fellow seemed crestfallen, but said that while he missed Torre, the Yanks were reloading and it was better for them to have a new manager because Torre wouldn't have been able to deal with the situation. Great.
2008-07-09 09:30:22
38.   underdog
35 - Oh huh, I thought you the one traveling to NY who said he may not be able to check Dodger Thoughts while away. That may have been someone else. I don't have my DT Personnel Tracking Sheet in front of me. Never mind!

--

Hm, wasn't Will Carroll the one also predicting for 2 years running that Chad Billingsley's body was going to fall apart any second now?

2008-07-09 09:33:22
39.   dzzrtRatt
I was in NY for a couple of hours, waiting for a late connection to Richmond, VA, where I am now.

I will probably be following tonight's game via you all plus Gameday, unless by some miracle ESPN is covering it. I love monitoring the games that way. With apologies to Merle Haggard, it's not Vin Scully, but it's not bad.

2008-07-09 09:36:47
40.   old dodger fan
39 You live in Richmond?
2008-07-09 09:41:19
41.   Eric Stephen
If Mattingly can solve the Matt Kemp puzzle, it will be great for the club. Hopefully Mattingly's expertise isn't limited to his like kind: sweet-swinging lefty first basemen.
2008-07-09 09:45:05
42.   JoeyP
30--That would follow with the Tony Jackson story on McCourt quashing the CC for Kemp deal.
2008-07-09 09:47:36
43.   JoeyP
29--The thinking was that Harden has a 7mil option for 2009 that the A's were not going to exercise. They also didnt think he'd pitch enough innings this year to qualify as a Type A free agent.

His velocity is reportedly down, so they made the deal now rather than wait a couple more weeks.

Beane really likes Gallagher apparently.

2008-07-09 09:48:31
44.   KG16
41 - I don't know, the Dodgers do have a sweet-swinging lefty first baseman
2008-07-09 09:51:41
45.   Eric Stephen
44
That's what I meant. Mattingly joined the club in Chicago a few weeks back and tinkered a bit with Loney, who had (coincidentally or not) a good run soon after.

I'm saying I hope Mattingly isn't only able to help sweet swinging 1B like he was.

2008-07-09 09:51:41
46.   Bob Timmermann
44
But some want a sweet swinging switch hitter first baseman.
2008-07-09 09:53:11
47.   dzzrtRatt
40 No, I live in the LA area. Richmond is one of the cities I visit for my job. This is my second time here since the beginning of the year. I liked the weather a lot better in January!

My irregular circuit takes me to a lot of AAA cities. I saw a game in OK City a couple months ago. I'll be in New Orleans and Portland hopefully before the season's over. I don't know what Richmond's team is doing the next couple days, but I might try to see them.

2008-07-09 09:54:08
48.   Bob Timmermann
47
The team in Richmond and the team in Atlanta are often interchangeable this year.
2008-07-09 09:56:16
49.   Eric Stephen
48
Much like the Portland/San Diego interchangeability. Old friend Brian Myrow, fresh off the plane from Portland, hit his 1st ML HR last evening.
2008-07-09 09:56:43
50.   CanuckDodger
42 -- It also suggests that the quote in Jackson's story about McCourt and Colletti being on the same page in not liking the deal is a lie. If there WAS a Kemp/Sabathia deal Colletti had to have made it, and he wouldn't have made it unless he liked it. Another possibility is that Carroll's sources are wrong -- that they have an inaccurate perception of what is going on with the Dodgers and they are trying to cast the Dodgers in a bad light because they are angry that the Dodgers aren't just caving to their trade demands.
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2008-07-09 09:58:55
51.   KG16
45 - ah, gotcha, clearly, I need coffee. Lots and lots of coffee.
2008-07-09 10:08:27
52.   Terry A
30 - Isn't there someone else out there -- Tim Brown, Buster Olney, Keith Law... somebody, anyway -- saying the same thing about discord in the Dodger FO?

If this is accurate (and please note use of the word "if"), it may shed light on Colletti's recent tendency to dump blame on some of the player personnel people.

2008-07-09 10:08:36
53.   Neal Pollack
I was at the game last night so I missed the chat. We probably had no shot anyway, but was anyone else criticizing the way Torre handled the staff? Having Bills bunt in the fifth, come in the sixth and effectively give up the game for good--that's not good management. You pinch-hit for him with a man on, bring Kuo in to pitch the 6th, then maybe you're down 3-1 instead of 6-0. But what do I know? I'm no baseball professional.
2008-07-09 10:11:00
54.   Neal Pollack
52--It seems to me that most of the Dodgers' problems have to do with the front office right now.

Also, at the game last night, there were a LOT of people booing Kemp and yelling "bring back Pierre." I had to keep my fists to myself. That said, Kemp DID suck up the joint last night.

2008-07-09 10:12:03
55.   Eric Stephen
Derek Lowe has faced off against Tim Hudson thrice before (once while both were in the AL), and is 2-1 against him:

May 9, 2002
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/OAK/OAK200205090.shtml
Lowe: 8 IP, 1 ER, 2/1 BB/K, Win
Hudson: 7 IP, 4 ER, 1/5 BB/K, Loss

April 3, 2006
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN200604030.shtml
Lowe: 5 IP, 7 ER, 1/2 BB/K, Loss
Hudson: 4 IP, 5 ER, 3/3 BB/K, ND

May 5, 2007
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ATL/ATL200705050.shtml
Lowe: 7 IP, 0 ER, 2/8 BB/K, Win
Hudson: 8 IP, 3 ER, 0/3 BB/K, Loss

2008-07-09 10:14:02
56.   bhsportsguy
53 But I think with no off-days and it with Stults and Park lined up to pitch the next few days, you need to keep your bullpen ready, especially Kuo for those games. No one was hitting Atlanta's pitcher so sending either Young or LaRoche up there probably wasn't that appealing at that moment.

Chad should have been able to get through the 6th, he got by (aside from the one pitch to McCann) the toughest part of their lineup.

Call it a friendly disagreement but I don't see the harm of letting Chad continue in the game.

2008-07-09 10:14:42
57.   Jon Weisman
50 - Both your scenarios are clearly possible. I just would emphasize that the "nix" scenario doesn't mean Colletti's on the chopping block, or any more so than he was before. Entirely possible that McCourt nixed the deal and gave Colletti a vote of confidence. You can debate how much that vote of confidence is worth, but we're still in speculation mode.

53 - I was fine with leaving Chad in. I thought he had two good innings left. He has often righted himself after a bad inning.

2008-07-09 10:15:05
58.   CanuckDodger
52 -- I imagine the sources that talk to Carroll talk to those other guys too. My point is that those sources don't seem to be within the Dodger organization. They are outsiders looking in, and perhaps they have an unclear view, or quite baldly are trying to grind their own axes with what sort of information they pass on to journalists.
2008-07-09 10:15:51
59.   regfairfield
Dave Cameron ranks the top 50 players in terms of trade value. Russ comes in at 18 behind Mauer and McCann, likely because those two are already wrapped up, Bills is at 25 and Loney is at 50. I don't agree with putting Loney over Kemp, but it's a good showing.

http://ussmariner.com/2008/07/07/mlb-trade-value-top-fifty/

2008-07-09 10:16:37
60.   regfairfield
57 I agree, Bills was getting nickel and dimed in the fifth, I had no probem with him coming back. Bringing in Troncoso was a mistake though.
2008-07-09 10:17:09
61.   bhsportsguy
54 I have heard those things too at times, a lot of attendees are down on LaRoche too.

But they cheer for Nomar. And boo Jones.

Maybe the media just dislikes front offices generally, it just when its people you don't like, it doesn't bother some as much.

2008-07-09 10:18:54
62.   madmac
33 It's like he was born to pitch for the Cubs. Well atleast born to be a pitcher for the Cubs.
2008-07-09 10:19:23
63.   Doctor
54

What a joke, it was an ugly game but he snapped a 7 game hitting streak and gets boo'd? .... D'okay.

2008-07-09 10:20:02
64.   Terry A
58 - It's also entirely possible that those guys are using Carroll's reporting as their source.

Maybe someone could ask Tony Jackson to elaborate on the alleged tension in the front office. No Dodger beat writers or columnists have noted it, have they?

2008-07-09 10:20:39
65.   bhsportsguy
60 Who else is left, Borg? Or maybe Wade.

Interesting comment from Buster Olney, he just said that there is a difference between the Brewers and the Dodgers in this sense, for Milwaukee, getting CC to go for the playoffs makes a lot of sense, for the Dodgers, trading someone like Kemp (why his name keeps coming up who knows) for CC to win the West doesn't solve the problem of how to advance through the playoffs.

2008-07-09 10:20:55
66.   old dodger fan
So the fans are booing Jones and Kemp. Anybody else?
2008-07-09 10:21:40
67.   regfairfield
65 I bring in Kuo probably, or at least Beimel or Wade. The game was going to be out of reach if those guys scored, you had to shut down the inning.
2008-07-09 10:23:33
68.   bhsportsguy
67 Okay, I really think they wanted to give Kuo another day off after pitching twice in three days over the weekend. But Beimel would be an okay choice, though he was a bit rusty when he finally did come in the game.
2008-07-09 10:23:34
69.   Lexinthedena
Most of the games I go to, Kemp gets big cheers. I think he was booed more for sucking so bad yesterday.
2008-07-09 10:24:08
70.   bhsportsguy
66 They booed Chad last night after the 5th.
2008-07-09 10:24:15
71.   regfairfield
Yeah, I think a golden sombrero means you get booed, no matter who you are.
2008-07-09 10:32:39
72.   okdodge
47 Next time your in Okc for business, let me know. I'll go catch a AAA game w/ ya. My dad and I go about once a week anyway. The Rangers have a prospect who is tearing it up, the guy is pretty fun to watch.

http://tinyurl.com/5c4xwd

2008-07-09 10:33:29
73.   taikwanboe
The rumor that McCourt squashed a Kemp+others for CC deal makes no sense to me. The Dodgers have allowed the fewest runs in the NL but are only outscoring the Giants, Padres, and Nationals. It's like the complete opposite of the type of move Colletti should be thinking about. Were we really going to go with an OF of Jones, Ethier, and DY/Repko?

The bit about Casey Blake is also pretty peculiar seeing as Torre won't give LaRoche a chance to take 3B away from DeWitt. Unless they were going to move him to SS?

2008-07-09 10:33:58
74.   Bob Timmermann
I would only go to OKC for exciting NBA action.
2008-07-09 10:36:06
75.   Bob Timmermann
73
Casey Blake is inexplicably popular among the fans of Cleveland.
2008-07-09 10:36:38
76.   bhsportsguy
73 Well, I think they are concerned about Penny and CC would be better than Stults, Park or Kershaw. A rotation with Chad, Kuroda, Lowe, Penny and CC even with our limited offense would give the team a chance to win every game.

I mean I could sell it that way if I was to make that deal. And had the deal been, oh let's say LaRoche and McDonald for CC, I would be tempted to do it.

2008-07-09 10:36:49
77.   old dodger fan
I see several AAA games every year. I see a lot of great young players headed up and usually at least one older one headed down which always prompts me to say to my wife, "I remember when he played for ..." and she politely smiles as her eyes glaze over.
2008-07-09 10:38:21
78.   Terry A
73 - DY/Repko would go away as soon as Pierre returns. Remember, Colletti has made no bones about his affinity for Pierre, and Torre -- who made absolutely boneheaded comments about being "OK" with Pierre's OBP -- seems to feel the same. Neither seems particularly enthralled by Kemp.
2008-07-09 10:39:42
79.   Eric Stephen
The Dodgers have had three Golden Sombreros™ in the last 9 days.

http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/jEfV

2008-07-09 10:40:29
80.   Howard Fox
77 I usually have to wake my wife to tell her stuff like that

78 after watching Kemp at the game last night, I'm not particularly enthralled by Kemp either

2008-07-09 10:42:51
81.   Doctor
Pierre will be back to lead off when he comes back, we might as well get used to it. Torre isn't happy with the job Kemp is doing there, but basically said that the leadoff hitter must have speed so he's not going to change it... pretty clear we can't get away from that problem.
2008-07-09 10:43:19
82.   bhsportsguy
78 How does Kemp playing just about everyday since April equate to not being enthralled by Kemp?

Kemp has great talent but he has not progressed as a hitter like Martin, Loney or recently Ethier. He gets by on just his athletic ability but as a baseball player, he is still learning.

I don't like how the Dodgers try to challenge him by vague comments to the press but over the last 2 months, he has been in the biggest slump of his career.

2008-07-09 10:44:30
83.   Eric Stephen
81
we might as well get used to it

That made me think of a famous Bobby Knight 60 Minutes interview with Connie Chung.

2008-07-09 10:47:03
84.   bhsportsguy
They were more fun when they were cursed.

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2008-07-09 10:48:19
85.   Howard Fox
82 my problem with Kemp is he seems not to learn...maybe I am wrong, and maybe it is lousy coaches...a 2 month slump isn't major, or maybe it is, if he doesn't adjust to the pitchers as they seem to have adjusted to him
2008-07-09 10:48:56
86.   regfairfield
You might say he's not coachable...
2008-07-09 10:49:14
87.   Doctor
Kemp is practically on a hot streak compared to some the ruts the young players in AZ and FLA have been allowed to work through this year and last.
2008-07-09 10:50:16
88.   Bob Timmermann
85
Kemp has been branded as "uncoachable" or "someone who has to be told five times to learn one thing."

That brand will never escape him I fear.

2008-07-09 10:51:14
89.   Howard Fox
88 that goes along with the branding from Kent as being one of "those" young players
2008-07-09 10:52:14
90.   Bob Timmermann
The media in Boston started hating Ted Williams in 1939 and kept it up for his whole career.

I think he came out OK.