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July 19 Game Chat
2008-07-19 15:49
by Jon Weisman

Dodgers at Diamondbacks, 5:10 p.m.

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2008-07-19 16:30:42
1.   Bob Timmermann
I hope Joe Torre signs the scorecard when the game is over.
2008-07-19 16:33:52
2.   Linkmeister
Oh, man. The little idjit. She was dumb (a 67 today, too!), but so was her caddy. I'd assume that ensuring your client doesn't emulate Roberto de Vicenzo is part of the job description.
2008-07-19 16:38:13
3.   Linkmeister
Here's ESPN's story about it:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/6nnrnc

2008-07-19 16:43:08
4.   underdog
1 Darnit! I was gonna make that joke. But then a nap got in my way.

I feel refreshed. And no Mark Sweeney tonight so at least we have a one day respite from comments about that.

My only prediction is that there will be less runs scored than last night's 15.

2008-07-19 16:48:10
5.   ToyCannon
I've expected Beltre to be a Dodger for a while now. LaRoche should go on to become the next Carlos Quentin.

Even Andy Marte is getting a chance in Cleveland. Hope he does something with it.

Free baseball on MLB Extra Innings this weekend. What a catch by Coco but they still could not stop the Angel juggernaut.

2008-07-19 16:55:27
6.   Gagne55
1 Because this is the game that puts the Dodgers in first place until the end of the season?
2008-07-19 17:00:29
7.   Eric Enders
Ian Capilouto, I've responded to your question, but I posted it in the last thread so as not to sully this one with LaRoche/DeWitt talk.
2008-07-19 17:01:40
8.   KG16
it seems that there is more interest in buying Wrigley Field than there is in buying the Cubs. At least according to some reports.

Not that I could afford to buy a baseball team at the moment, but I was wondering what everyone thought of this idea I had recently for a stadium design: incorporating a high rise condo into the design, similar to the hotels at Skydome and Petco. Would anyone around here consider buying a condo that had an unobstructed view of the field?

2008-07-19 17:03:32
9.   Eric Enders
8 There's no way to do it without making the stadium look crappy, and personally I wouldn't want the parking and traffic hassles that would come with living there.
2008-07-19 17:06:24
10.   KG16
9 - you don't think you could incorporate it like at Petco? And I was definitely thinking of private parking for residents, possibly with entrances and exits separate from the general populace.
2008-07-19 17:08:07
11.   Indiana Jon
Every night I check the lineup, then my first thought is that I hope Dewitt pulls a hamstring, sprains a thumb, or twists an ankle that night. It's the only reason I watch his at bats.
2008-07-19 17:08:23
12.   Eric Enders
10 Even then, there'd be 81 nights a year you couldn't go anywhere because of the traffic.
2008-07-19 17:08:39
13.   The Trolley Dodger
10 Walking out my front door to find a Dodger Dog grill would be pretty dang spiffy.
2008-07-19 17:10:07
14.   KG16
12 - i'm going to have to think about that part, conceptually.
2008-07-19 17:11:54
15.   Eric Enders
12 , 14 Of course, if you're the type who's willing to buy a condo in a ballpark, chances are that most of those 81 nights you wouldn't want to go anywhere anyway. I mean, that view is what you paid the big bucks for.
2008-07-19 17:12:54
16.   KG16
baseball should not be played indoors. No roof and that would have been gone
2008-07-19 17:13:53
17.   KG16
15 - this is also true. i'm also thinking of the stadium in a downtown/metro area, probably with parking opposite the condos.
2008-07-19 17:14:28
18.   underdog
Joe Garagiola in the DBax TV booth tonight. Which I'll consider a rare treat, for the first couple of innings or so.

Man, yeah, 16 I really was positive Andre had a dinger there.

2008-07-19 17:15:49
19.   Eric Enders
So over at Baseball America, Tony Jackson has a midseason review of the Dodgers' farm system.

The "Biggest Leap Forward" is a player who played at AA last year, was pressed into emergency everyday service in the majors, and couldn't hit a lick but played outstanding defense.

The "Most Disappointing Player" is also a player who played at AA last year, was pressed into emergency everyday service in the majors, and couldn't hit a lick but played outstanding defense.

2008-07-19 17:16:18
20.   underdog
11 Sorry but I find that a little on the mean side. I want LaRoche to start too, but don't wish injury on DeWitt, especially not with how much effort he's given this season. It's not his fault he shouldn't be starting.
2008-07-19 17:18:38
21.   KG16
20 - i didn't even notice that comment. i'm trying really hard to ignore posts that include the words "laroche", "dewitt", and "deroche". for example, i won't even read this comment.

that said, 11 is in poor taste.

2008-07-19 17:18:39
22.   underdog
19 - Without looking I assume it's DeWitt and Hu he's/you're talking about?

I just want to see the Dodgers hit home runs again tonight, just to hear Darren Sutton's funereal voice. Now that does give me pleasure.

2008-07-19 17:19:20
23.   Ken Noe
18 Listening to human annoyances like Buck and McCarver really make me appreciate Garagiola. Yes, he told a lot of extraneous stories about Yogi, but I also learned a lot of baseball history, and he made watching fun rather than cringe-inducing.
2008-07-19 17:20:48
24.   Bluebleeder87
Aside from D-Lowe there is nobody I'd like pitching tonight then Billz.

Let's Go Dodgers!

2008-07-19 17:20:56
25.   underdog
23 Yeah and to give him credit, despite his advancing age he's at least in tune with today's players. He's more in tune than Joe Morgan! (Okay, that's faint praise, but you know what I mean.) I find him likable, it's just that he sometimes gets a little dottering.
2008-07-19 17:20:59
26.   Tripon
Speaking as a person who lived in the Solano area(A little neighborhood under Dodgers stadium that opened up to East L.A. And Chinatown) for a number of years growing up, I can say with some authority that after games were over, I could see rows of cars just blocking traffic for a hour or two. And considering that Echo Park is becoming Gentrified, might as well make Dodgers Stadium into the new hippie central.
2008-07-19 17:22:55
27.   Indiana Jon
20 I realize that, just being honest. It's what it will take for Joe to figure it out. They are only minor injuries. Just enough for Dewitt to go on the DL, do a rehab and not come back once Andy is hitting.
2008-07-19 17:23:06
28.   Bluebleeder87
Snakes strike first...
2008-07-19 17:23:33
29.   Eric Enders
22 Yes.
2008-07-19 17:23:40
30.   underdog
Grrrr. And there's Sutton's un-funereal, Dbacks homer (in more ways than one) voice.

SIGH.

2008-07-19 17:23:50
31.   Ken Noe
As a Who fan, I really resent hearing that on Snake home runs.
2008-07-19 17:25:22
32.   Andrew Shimmin
DY's got no hops.
2008-07-19 17:25:26
33.   Bluebleeder87
lack of playing time error there, he should have cought that.
2008-07-19 17:25:31
34.   bleedsblue
Painful to watch that pitch going in right down the middle.
2008-07-19 17:25:31
35.   Tripon
>> I realize that, just being honest. It's what it will take for Joe to figure it out. They are only minor injuries. Just enough for Dewitt to go on the DL, do a rehab and not come back once Andy is hitting. <<

Its going to take more than a DeWitt's injury to get LeRoche's on 3rd base. Its going to take injuries to DeWitt, Nomar, Berrora, and Maza. Berrora and Maza because if DeWitt's get hurt, Torre will just move Nomar to 3rd, and put Berrora or Maza at ShortSTop.

2008-07-19 17:25:32
36.   underdog
This 70s night thing at the stadium is a good idea that's already become annoying (if you're watching their broadcast).

27 Understood.

--

C'mon Chad, no more first inning blues.

2008-07-19 17:25:52
37.   ucladodger
That was pathetic, Pee Wee.
2008-07-19 17:26:02
38.   Eric Enders
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2008-07-19 17:26:51
39.   underdog
35 Now that I think is just patently false. Sorry.
2008-07-19 17:27:17
40.   Indiana Jon
35 I think Torre is a bad manager, but I don't think he's that stupid. Of course I could be wrong.
2008-07-19 17:28:23
41.   ucladodger
This is nuts.
2008-07-19 17:29:11
42.   Bluebleeder87
it's STILL EARLY but Chad picked a bad day to suck!
2008-07-19 17:29:25
43.   underdog
What is happening to our normally unhittable starters so far this series? It's like they come into this park and suddenly forget what they'd been doing...
2008-07-19 17:29:34
44.   Eric Enders
I disagree with 35 in that it would only take injuries to three of those four guys, not all four. You still need two players on the left side of the infield.
2008-07-19 17:29:39
45.   bleedsblue
27.

Nice plan there, Jeff Gillooly.

2008-07-19 17:29:40
46.   KG16
41 - I think they opened the roof during the break.
2008-07-19 17:30:22
47.   underdog
Even the outs (and the should've-been-outs) have been fly balls, his pitches are up. Hopefully he'll correct that after this inning.
2008-07-19 17:30:38
48.   Bluebleeder87
I've got some really cool 70's attire, why don't the Dodgers do a 70's night?
2008-07-19 17:30:52
49.   ucladodger
Our defense has cost us about 5 runs in the last 12 innings.
2008-07-19 17:32:07
50.   bhsportsguy
Juan Pierre makes that play in LF.
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2008-07-19 17:32:11
51.   Bluebleeder87
hopefully the Ddogers return the favor in this inning.
2008-07-19 17:32:52
52.   underdog
I don't see ANY evidence as to how Torre favors Maza or Berroa over LaRoche. None. When DeWitt has sat, LaRoche has played third. Torre seems to have little interest in playing either of those guys at this point. I think people are getting beyond irrational when talking about this DeWoche DeBate - and I'm someone who thinks LaRoche should be starting too - that I'm not even sure what to say anymore other than to ignore any post about it, so I won't get so grumpy. ;-)
2008-07-19 17:33:26
53.   Bob Timmermann
This is not a good start.

Especially because this is a head-to-head matchup between a pitcher on my team and a pitcher on the team in first place in my fantasy league.

And that kid leads in ERA.

2008-07-19 17:35:10
54.   underdog
Okay, I don't mind 70s night as much when it includes incredibly beautiful women wearing snug paisley dresses. I officially approve.
2008-07-19 17:35:25
55.   Eric Enders
52 Oh, I agree there's no evidence. We don't know whether he prefers, say, Berroa over LaRoche (or vice versa) because he's never had to choose between the two...yet. If he did, though, I would fear the result.
2008-07-19 17:36:58
56.   Bluebleeder87
53

so ERA is what wins?

2008-07-19 17:37:38
57.   underdog
That was a nice pitch. If it was thrown by a Dodger pitcher, though, Darren Sutton would say, "Huh, okay, I guess that was a strike."
2008-07-19 17:37:51
58.   Bluebleeder87
shot up the middle!
2008-07-19 17:37:53
59.   Ken Noe
54 Maybe Bailey Quarters is visiting from Cincy.
2008-07-19 17:38:12
60.   underdog
Good job, Pee Wee!
2008-07-19 17:39:00
61.   Sam in SC
54 I agree. although the wigs are annoying.
2008-07-19 17:39:02
62.   underdog
59 - Oh... Bailey... sigh... {daydream}
2008-07-19 17:39:11
63.   bhsportsguy
Andrew is watching this PA very closely.
2008-07-19 17:40:09
64.   D4P
DeWitt forces a wild pitch
2008-07-19 17:40:51
65.   bhsportsguy
63 DeWitt's OPS at 300 PA is less than .700.

Elias will send a notarized document to confirm that on Monday.

2008-07-19 17:43:11
66.   Bob Timmermann
65
Sigh.

And I had the song memorized.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwMV5E_Jf-0

SFW

2008-07-19 17:44:07
67.   Ken Noe
No confirmation yet, but Huston Street may be a Brewer.

http://tinyurl.com/6fbzez

2008-07-19 17:44:43
68.   underdog
65 - But what if Michelle Wie forgets to sign it?

This gimmicky stuff in the booth schtick on the AZ broadcast is also quite irritating.

2008-07-19 17:45:10
69.   Bob Timmermann
However, in other uninteresting fantasy baseball news, I traded my nephew Roy Halladay to get David Wright. And Evan Longoria on my team hit a grand slam off of Halladay tonight.

So how do I properly taunt an 11-year old?

2008-07-19 17:45:44
70.   whodat807
Ugh the Arizona broadcast is terrible. You think Vin would ever interrupt doing his job -- y'know, calling the GAME -- with this sort of garbage? I can't stand stuff like this.
2008-07-19 17:45:46
71.   MonkeyBlue
Oh boy, our starter ain't going to the distance.
2008-07-19 17:46:39
72.   nofatmike
Chad sucks against the D'Backs.
2008-07-19 17:47:04
73.   underdog
C'mon Chad! Grrrr.

--

67 - Gonna need more to go on than that... I would also think the A's would need more in a trade for Street. Maybe a major leaguer, too, like Hall?

2008-07-19 17:47:22
74.   D4P
I traded my nephew Roy Halladay to get David Wright

I never knew Roy Halladay was your nephew

2008-07-19 17:48:12
75.   Bob Timmermann
74
There were no appositives in that sentence.
2008-07-19 17:48:28
76.   underdog
69 - Your nephew is Roy Halladay?

Wait, how many kids are in this fantasy league?

2008-07-19 17:48:58
77.   underdog
Duh, a bad joke is even better when two of us make it!

Man, Haren really chased that one.

2008-07-19 17:49:58
78.   Bluebleeder87
if Billz leaves those MEAT BALLS up like that, it's gonna be a LONG NIGHT.
2008-07-19 17:50:40
79.   Bob Timmermann
If I had written:

"I traded my nephew, Roy Halladay, to get David Wright," then you would have the semblance of a good joke.

2008-07-19 17:52:22
80.   bleedsblue
Short outing for Chad tonight unless he can find the knees.
2008-07-19 17:52:53
81.   Indiana Jon
67 If they got him for Ford only that's an amazing steal.
2008-07-19 17:53:43
82.   MonkeyBlue
MUCH! needed DP!
2008-07-19 17:53:57
83.   KG16
well, thats one way out of the jam
2008-07-19 17:53:57
84.   Bluebleeder87
80

o.k. alright, momentum shifter or what??

2008-07-19 17:54:44
85.   bhsportsguy
Well its not Tinker to Evers to Chance (though it looked liked them even though those guys have been dead for decades) but they get out of it.
2008-07-19 17:54:47
86.   underdog
Sweet! Way to get out of that one Chad.

He's really gonna need to battle it tonight, they would love to avoid dipping into the bullpen earlier than 5.

2008-07-19 17:55:48
87.   bhsportsguy
85 Saddest words ever uttered on a diamond, Nomah to Kent to Loney.
2008-07-19 17:56:12
88.   MonkeyBlue
Heh! nice weak single for Bills.
2008-07-19 17:56:57
89.   bhsportsguy
Will that look like a line drive in the morning?
2008-07-19 17:57:04
90.   underdog
Re: That Street rumor, it sounds like it may have nothing to do with him. (From two online sources, including MLBTraderumors:)

WSSP 1250 AM in Milwaukee is reporting that Milwaukee Brewers and the San Francisco Giants are close to a deal that would send Milwaukee's Double A Catcher Angel Salome, Single A prospect Outfielder/speedster Darren Ford, and Triple A First Baseman Brad Nelson to the Giants for Second Baseman Ray Durham, Reliever Jack Taschner, and a PTBNL.

2008-07-19 17:58:09
91.   bleedsblue
Back in business now. Let's get something going, guys.
2008-07-19 17:58:11
92.   underdog
Darren Ford's not that hot of a prospect. Anyone know anything about the other two guys? Seems smart for the Giants to trade Durham if they can.
2008-07-19 17:58:35
93.   MonkeyBlue
Ethier! What the heck man??? AWFUL!
2008-07-19 17:59:14
94.   Sam in SC
that may have been the ugliest swing that I have ever seen.
2008-07-19 17:59:30
95.   John Hale
If the Author of the Griddle can talk fantasy I will follow his lead

My team is called "No More Nomars"

Is it worth ditching Orlando Cabrera for Nomar? Am I going against some kind of principle by adding Nomar to this team created to mock him

2008-07-19 18:00:13
96.   bhsportsguy
Not a good inning.
2008-07-19 18:00:19
97.   underdog
Ouch. Russell! Sigh.
2008-07-19 18:00:30
98.   Bluebleeder87
Rats!
2008-07-19 18:00:45
99.   underdog
96 - It started off very well. I just didn't like how it ended.

I demand a rewrite!

2008-07-19 18:01:29
100.   MMSMikey
why not just bunt with ethier, we cant come up empty right there.
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2008-07-19 18:01:51
101.   Bluebleeder87
hopefully Chad can relax & throw strikes.
2008-07-19 18:01:55
102.   Bob Timmermann
95
Orlando Cabrera does lead the AL in outs.
2008-07-19 18:02:53
103.   Bluebleeder87
100

Ethier has pop I'd personally go to Zona & give Torre a charley if he did that.

2008-07-19 18:05:47
104.   Bob Timmermann
I see that Vin is in cahoots with the Baby Ruth Candy people to pass along their phony story about how the candy got its name.
2008-07-19 18:06:05
105.   bhsportsguy
103 I almost wrote that with the qualification that if Pierre was batting in that spot he would bunt, etc. etc.
2008-07-19 18:06:42
106.   Indiana Jon
92 Why would Milwaukee want Durham though?
2008-07-19 18:07:22
107.   MonkeyBlue
Pretty big ball park.
2008-07-19 18:07:37
108.   underdog
From what I've read on the Dbacks blog about their TV coverage, Snakes fans (at least on that blog) are generally no more enamored with their gimmicky coverage and banal sideline reports than we are.

And just as a type that, there's another interview in the stands!

In better news, Bills looked so much better that inning (er except for that last out).

2008-07-19 18:07:43
109.   bhsportsguy
104 Cahoots, you say. I think Vin thinks Baby Ruth bars are the bees knees.
2008-07-19 18:08:27
110.   underdog
106 I don't know - I was wondering that, too. Some pop on the bench? Seems kind of odd. I guess Jack Tachsner is the centerpiece of that trade for them! ;-)
2008-07-19 18:08:55
111.   Bob Timmermann
While Mark Reynolds may be one of the co-holders of the record for most consecutive plate appearances with a strikeout at 9, which pitcher holds the record with 12 straight strikeouts in 12 straight trips to the plate?
2008-07-19 18:09:55
112.   Ken Noe
Brewer's beat writer now agrees that the deal involves the Giants, not A's.
2008-07-19 18:10:10
113.   Bob Timmermann
Vin has gone to Snopes!
2008-07-19 18:10:41
114.   KG16
now Vin is talking about snopes.com - that's the best advertising you'll ever get in the LA market.

except that he didn't mention snopes by name.

2008-07-19 18:11:40
115.   Bob Timmermann
112
I really wanted Street on the Brewers for entirely selfish purposes. I need more saves!
2008-07-19 18:11:46
116.   KG16
that line about "being the first person to tell you there is no you know who come december" might be the quote of the season.
2008-07-19 18:11:51
117.   John Hale
104
Baby Ruth Candy allowed me to purchase 9 field level seats for 200$ for the diamond back series. I don't want anything to disparage the name of the Baby Ruth Candy company.

Keyword at Ticketmaster = candy!!!
I can't handle the truth anyway

2008-07-19 18:11:53
118.   Andrew Shimmin
Uh oh, Vin's taking his life in his own hands, going against Nestlé. I hope FSNWPT2 is paying for real security and not just some guys with Event Staff t-shirts.
2008-07-19 18:13:58
119.   bleedsblue
It is a pleasure to listen to Vin.

"Wouldn't you hate it if somebody told you there was no you-know-who come December? Yeah, thanks alot."

2008-07-19 18:14:23
120.   underdog
Well, alas, I have to hit the road soon, and will miss the rest of this game live. And wouldn't be surprised to come home later to discover this was the final score.

The DBacks FSN Aflac question is: Who was the first DH?

2008-07-19 18:14:48
121.   Ken Noe
Snakes' crew has no idea who the first DH was. Joe G is amazed.
2008-07-19 18:15:35
122.   bhsportsguy
120 Ron Bloomberg?
2008-07-19 18:16:04
123.   Bob Timmermann
Yellow alert for David Wright in Cincinnati. This is a yellow alert.
2008-07-19 18:16:52
124.   Bob Timmermann
122
Subtract an O.
2008-07-19 18:16:55
125.   Ken Noe
122 That's Ron Bloom if you broadcast for the Snakes.
2008-07-19 18:17:06
126.   underdog
122 - Indeed. Or, Blomberg, actually. Of course, the announcers spoil the fun of trying to figure it out by instantly guessing the answer right after they show the question. Thanks, Joe!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Blomberg

2008-07-19 18:17:12
127.   bhsportsguy
121 So have they started lining for the first tailgate yet?
2008-07-19 18:17:48
128.   Bluebleeder87
you gotta think if Bills keeps them from scoring we have a fighting chance.
2008-07-19 18:18:33
129.   Linkmeister
126 It would have been really funny if they'd said Dave Frishberg. 'Course, that presumes they know who he is.
2008-07-19 18:18:49
130.   Andrew Shimmin
Kelly Stinnett was the D'backs' first DH. He went one for three with a walk, batting eighth.
2008-07-19 18:18:51
131.   underdog
128 - I feel like that's only if they can work up Haren's pitch count enough and/or scratch out a run or two. He's cruising right now