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*$475,000 Chad Billingsley
*$415,000 Clayton Kershaw
*$405,000 Eric Stults
*$400,000 James McDonald
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*$1,300,000 Scott Proctor
*$1,500,000 Jonathan Broxton
*$425,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
*$420,000 Cory Wade
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*$600,000 Jason Repko
*$410,000 Delwyn Young
*$400,000 Danny Ardoin
*$400,000 Chin-Lung Hu
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JV Division Heats Up
2008-07-18 05:30
by Jon Weisman

In our little corner of the baseball world, this is the start of something big: showdown after showdown with Arizona. In the words of Steve Martin, "Are you feelin' it?"

Comments (276)
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2008-07-18 06:38:41
1.   Ken Noe
I'm feelin' it like I'm at the Opp Rattlesnake Rodeo

http://tinyurl.com/55sh6l

2008-07-18 06:48:08
2.   Bob Hendley
I imagine that the Dodgers braintrust got together over the break and it would be interesting to see if this results in any changes to the approach in areas such as use of Druw/Andy. Tings is startin' to get serious, folks.
2008-07-18 07:12:32
3.   bhsportsguy
2 Torre and Ned were in New York but I doubt they had anything but a few phone calls regarding Saito.
2008-07-18 07:27:21
4.   bhsportsguy
And you could try and find Bob Timmermann

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-sound18-2008jul18,0,4006711.story

2008-07-18 07:33:17
5.   bhsportsguy
I am guessing someone was paid to design this image

http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/la/ballpark/dodger_trolley.jsp

2008-07-18 07:53:13
6.   kinbote
Is it too late to say?: Boots of Spanish Leather
2008-07-18 07:54:50
7.   El Lay Dave
Idle side thought: When the Yankees activate Sexson, is Boom Boom Betemit the guy to go?
2008-07-18 08:05:25
8.   Bob Timmermann
They don't tell you where the trolley drops you off at Dodger Stadium.
2008-07-18 08:10:31
9.   underdog
7- doubtful. They have some other dead weight they could jettison first. I'd take him back over Berraza tho.
2008-07-18 08:15:52
10.   underdog
This series will be a battle between two flawed, injured but talented teams. Each matchup should be tough. Too bad the rest of the country won't be paying any attention.
2008-07-18 08:17:08
11.   old dodger fan
I'd rather give Wilson the PH duties than Sweeney. Ken Noe on the other hand would rather have anyone over Sweeney.
2008-07-18 08:40:17
12.   Doctor
So is Pierre the only Dodger in history to return ahead of prognosis from a injury? Looking like maybe next week....
2008-07-18 08:44:15
13.   MollyKnight
I know I'm probably going to be laughed into next Tuesday for saying this, but my prediction is that someone from the JV division is going to streak its way into the playoffs and steamroll the Brewers and Cubs into the World Series. (And I don't think it will be a team in blue).
2008-07-18 08:52:27
14.   Lexinthedena
13 If your refering to the team in Sedona Red, then your not crazy. They have the pitching for series'.
2008-07-18 08:54:38
15.   underdog
There's no reason to think that if AZ can do that, then the Dodgers can, too. The Dodgers also have pitching for a short series vs. anyone. We shall see, but stranger things have happened than either one of those teams making a deep run.

--

Hmm, I guess Tony Jackson took the week off from blogging after the All-Star game.

2008-07-18 08:56:25
16.   Lexinthedena
15 True, but the Dodgers have so many holes. So many. It all depends on how/if Raffy comes back.
2008-07-18 08:57:37
17.   underdog
16 True, but the DBacks don't?
2008-07-18 08:59:01
18.   MC Safety
I'm not feeling good about us facing Cy Davis tonight.
2008-07-18 09:04:42
19.   Doctor
18

Some of my most frustrating TV moments have come VS that guy.... he just isn't as good as he is… Maybe it's the lounge chair wind-up.

2008-07-18 09:11:28
20.   wronghanded
Call me the blind optimist but the Dodgers are overdue to erupt on Davis, I'm counting on it tonight!
2008-07-18 09:20:18
21.   apsio
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3494534

Nomo retired...it was time I guess.

2008-07-18 09:22:15
22.   Ken Noe
11 I'd take old dodger fan over Sweeney. And I'm talking as a pinch hitter.
2008-07-18 09:26:46
23.   D4P
I'd take whomever Sweeney was pinch-hitting for over Sweeney.
2008-07-18 09:28:27
24.   old dodger fan
23 That's a better choice than 22 .
2008-07-18 09:29:00
25.   underdog
Mad Men creator Matthew Weiner is guest on NPR's Fresh Air today. It's on right now here, but I'm sure will air again later and be available on podcast after that.

Today is already a good day because I got "Spaced" the entire series (by Shaun of the Dead's Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright) on DVD, out next week, today from Warner Brothers for review. I was going to buy it! Oh man, I can't wait. So many extra goodies, too.

2008-07-18 09:29:24
26.   silverwidow
Perhaps a roster move tonight. Two guesses:

*Kershaw up, Park to pen
*Meloan up, Park stays in rotation

The first option makes the most sense. If they decide that Meloan is more valuable in relief with Saito out, then the second could happen. I don't they'll let Meloan start.

2008-07-18 09:30:20
27.   Ken Noe
24 You can make an out as well as Swingy, and cost less. Plus we wouldn't have to hear about how pretty your swing is as you miss strike three.
2008-07-18 09:44:30
28.   old dodger fan
27 I'm ready. I'll even pay my own way to AZ. I'll probably have to stop reading DT though. You guys would brutalize me.
2008-07-18 09:44:40
29.   Indiana Jon
26 If it's option one, then we might see a hitter called up tonight instead since Kershaw isn't scheduled to start again until Tuesday. My guess is Repko for the weekend.
2008-07-18 09:45:46
30.   Indiana Jon
28 Will you play at the prorated league minimum? We could get Bonds for that amount, but I would rather have you. You are clean right?
2008-07-18 09:47:52
31.   ToyCannon
26
Why would they bring up Kershaw now when he just pitched last night?
2008-07-18 09:48:40
32.   kene
I definately feel it!
The Dodgers can pick up 3 games on Arizona.
Should be some great pitching this series.

Lets see what Broxton can do as the closer this time around.....I think he will do well this time.

Lets see the offense wake up!

As I said I am definately "feelin it"....too bad I won't be home from work till 7:15, Arizona with their dang 6:40 games!

2008-07-18 09:48:42
33.   Bob Timmermann
31
Stop being so ... practical.
2008-07-18 09:48:53
34.   arborial
30 I am sure it wouldn't be at the league minimum but has anyone even considered Bonds as an NL DH aka Pinch Hitter. I have to admit that as much as I hate the guy, his bat sounds awful nice right now.

That is assuming he could put on a Dodger uniform without getting shot.

2008-07-18 09:52:51
35.   old dodger fan
30 I'll even give 10% to DT and yes I'm clean as long as they don't test for caffeine.

On the serious side, Bonds would help us and I hope we don't sign him.

2008-07-18 09:52:56
36.   jasonungar07
12 Did you read that somewhere ? If not I call rule 3 violation. lol :-) Directly at me.

....3) baiting other commenters....

2008-07-18 09:58:34
37.   Doctor
36

Yea, DailyNews... was out last week I was just trying to ignore it....

Juan Pierre, out since June 30 with a sprained ligament in his left knee, is scheduled to travel with the team on the next road trip to Arizona, but might not be activated until the next homestand. Trainer Stan Conte told Torre that Pierre is ahead of schedule on his recovery....

2008-07-18 10:06:21
38.   KG16
37 - Stan Conte tells Torre that everyone is ahead of schedule on their recovery. And then the player gets activated for a couple of days and ends up on the 60 day DL.
2008-07-18 10:06:44
39.   silverwidow
31 Aside from Meloan, there isn't anyone in Vegas worth calling-up (pitcher or hitter). And a move has to be made, eventually.
2008-07-18 10:07:49
40.   El Lay Dave
37 Eyewitnesses at the last series reported that Pierre still looked pretty gimpy. One can only hope that Dodger management can be aligned on the idea that a guy whose only asset is speed shouldn't be activated with a knee that is less than 100%.
2008-07-18 10:09:26
41.   D4P
Eyewitnesses at the last series reported that Pierre still looked pretty gimpy

And his arms looked really weak.

2008-07-18 10:10:44
42.   old dodger fan
38 Hmmm... Is that a strategy?
2008-07-18 10:12:16
43.   KG16
42 - nope just a pattern. Conte did the same thing with Little last year.
2008-07-18 10:15:39
44.   bhsportsguy
41 I just saw him in the dugout so its not like I saw him trying to run or in batting practice.
2008-07-18 10:18:33
45.   jasonungar07
Hmmmph...Mediate on this I will.
2008-07-18 10:19:55
46.   blue22
40/44 - Pierre always looks like that though. He's got the Willie McGee/Kenny Lofton walk goin' on.
2008-07-18 10:22:50
47.   sporky
This t-shirt is all kind of awesome (via Rob Neyer's blog):

http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2008/07/18/brew-crew-bonanza/

2008-07-18 10:32:19
48.   Louis in SF
As ugly as it sounds does JP coming off the DL earlier than we had hoped mean the Dodgers don't go out and make any stupid trades? And if Andru continues to struggle and by his own admission he is still not 100%-the platoon is JP and Andru?
2008-07-18 10:35:17
49.   El Lay Dave
46 Mickey Rivers!
2008-07-18 10:36:36
50.   KG16
48 - that's what a reasonable person would do. an unreasonable person, however, would say that the Bums need the extra PVL in the outfield, I mean, after all JP and Dru both have rings. It doesn't matter that they've been outperformed by the other two guys thus far, JP and Jones are PVL, it's going to click for them in the second half and they will lead the Dodgers to the promised land.

And my only response to that is: Yo, barkeep!

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2008-07-18 10:40:01
51.   Mike De Leon
I hope any move the Dodger 'brain trust' makes doesn't include bringing up Kershaw. In his first stint we all saw the consequences of management's tight leash. He had absolutely no stamina. He has great stuff but when he gets tired his control goes in the toilet. Let him actually pitch in AA and build up his arm strength, learn to pitch rather than just throw and learn how to hold runners on. If the team needs to replace Sammy in the pen bring up Meloan.
2008-07-18 10:40:55
52.   The Trolley Dodger
5 My head is spinning! ;)
2008-07-18 10:42:35
53.   Doctor
Meloan allowing way way way too many baserunners/inning to be considered for any role in the bigs. Dont you think ? I cant see him getting the call.
2008-07-18 10:45:21
54.   sporky
IIRC, Kershaw only has 60-70 innings left for the year. I wonder if he'd see some time in the bullpen.
2008-07-18 10:46:47
55.   old dodger fan
Why are LA and AA seemingly the only options for Kershaw? We do have a AAA team after all. Isn't it customary for a player that kills them at AA and struggles at the ML level to go to AAA rather than back to AA?
2008-07-18 10:52:22
56.   sporky
Uh...

Clayton Kershaw's hard work doesn't pay off for Dodgers

By Ez and Dylan Hern

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jun/05/sports/sp-kershaw5

2008-07-18 10:53:02
57.   jasonungar07
Yeah I can see a 2nd half lineup with Jones, Pierre, Nomar and Wilson.
2008-07-18 10:56:59
58.   GoBears
These last few posts have me thinking (which is rare, I know).

51 suggests that Kershaw still has stuff to learn, and should stay in AA or AAA to work on that stuff. This is a reasonable idea. Sometimes you want pitchers to learn this stuff in the minors, because of the luxury of not caring much about Wins and Losses - failure is OK if it's a step to learning.

53 suggests that Meloan's performance has not been adequate to warrant a callup. This is also a reasonable position. But what if Meloan's recent "failings" are precisely because he's working on things and not caring much about outcomes so much as learning?

At the major league level, unless the season is a lost cause, there's a premium on results. For young players, in whom the team has an investment, and for whom the real payout should be in the future, what is the best way to judge readiness? If Kershaw just isn't challenged at AA, then how much can he improve there? How can he practice holding runners if he never allows any runners? Should he be told to walk guys, at the risk of looking, a la 53 like he's "allowing...too many baserunners?"

I guess my real point is not that the balance is impossible to strike, but that it's hard for us as desk-chair analysts to know WHY minor league players, especially those on the cusp, are putting up the numbers they are, and what they exactly mean. On average, we believe that Minor League numbers are meaningful enough that we can produce Major League Equivalents, but in a short time-span, for an individual player, it's hard to know what the numbers mean unless you know what the player and his coaches are really trying to do. I think we all understand this about Spring Training stats (that they're "meaningless" because different players are working on different things), but why wouldn't the same be the case for guys like Kershaw and Meloan who have had a cup of coffee, and been sent down to improve on something?

I think we've discussed how we're seeing this with Matt Kemp this year at the plate. He seems to be working on stuff (particularly plate discipline/pitch recognition, with predictably mixed results as he learns. The unfortunate thing for Kemp (and, maybe, for the Dodgers in the short run) is that he's trying this at the major league level, on television.

2008-07-18 10:58:02
59.   Mike De Leon
55. Because Kershaw hasn't been killing them at the AA level because management had him on such a strict pitch count before he was called up- he was pitching less than 5 innings in his starts which translated to no arm strength/stamina. I attribute a lot of his control problems in the show directly to that. Were he to be promoted to AAA I think he'd have the same problems there that he had in L.A. So I'd leave him AA.
2008-07-18 10:59:54
60.   El Lay Dave
54 67 games remaining / 5 starters = 13+. If the fifth starter is skipped two times, 11 starts for him. 11 starts * 6 IP/start = 66.
2008-07-18 11:03:06
61.   GoBears
59 I'm not sure how that post is consistent with your previous one, unless you think that the main thing he needs to work on is just stamina (more pitches per game). Because if AAA hitters would challenge him more than AA, it doesn't seem a bad idea to move him to AAA.

If your argument has nothing to do with skill, but just with stamina, then I guess you're right that AA is just as good. On the other hand, if there's anything to the notion of pitchers working harder in higher-leverage situations (e.g., with runners on base and better hitters at the plate) then perhaps stamina might also be a function of the level of the challenge.

2008-07-18 11:03:40
62.   El Lay Dave
Sounds like there's a fine line between holding down workload and building up stamina.
2008-07-18 11:04:02
63.   Mike De Leon
59. Forgot to add that he also needs to learn another hard pitch like a slider. Right now he throws the FB, curve and on occasion a change. His Curve is amazing but he uses his FB more than anything a slider looks like a FB until it breaks so fools hitters. AA would be a good place to learn and get it down.
2008-07-18 11:12:45
64.   GoBears
63. OK, I don't know if MDL is correct about his diagnosis, but if he is, then his prescription seems reasonable. If the prescription is administered, and Kershaw DOES spend the next couple months working on his slider, then we need to remember that and not get down on him because his walks go up or he hangs a few and allows more HRs in the mean time.

And that still raises the question about why AA and not AAA. Wouldn't AAA batters be more likely to jump on mistakes (or take bad pitches), thus accelerating his learning curve? If one can get away with mistakes in AA, then one is less likely to learn how to avoid those mistakes in the future.

2008-07-18 11:14:20
65.   Mike De Leon
61. Because I figure he'd get tired and then get rocked then get pulled early at AAA. If that were to happen he wouldn't be working on his stamina or anything else. Too IF, and it's a big if, management has him working on another pitch, which I hope, at first he's not going to have any control over it, which would result in his early exit at AAA.
2008-07-18 11:15:53
66.   KG16
62 - yes, yes there is. holding down workload can actually be detrimental to building stamina. if your a runner and you always run 3 miles, you'll be fine running three miles, you might even be world class at 3 miles. but if you try to run 5 miles, you're not going to be able to do it. same principle. the goal should be to build, slowly and steadily.

three outings with a pitch limit of 70, then three at 80, four at 90, five at 95, and then a few at 100. that would actually make some sense.

2008-07-18 11:16:25
67.   silverwidow
Vegas in the Summer = HR heaven.

That's why he's not there.

2008-07-18 11:17:40
68.   Bob Timmermann
KJ Choi is the only golfer on the happy side of par at the British Open. But it's a retro tournament with Greg Norman and David Duval on his heels.
2008-07-18 11:22:21
69.   Xeifrank
67. Yes, most of the stadiums in the PCL are suppose to be hitters parks due to the altitude and I guess the heat. Not exactly the type of place to fine tune your stuff.
vr, Xei
2008-07-18 11:26:43
70.   old dodger fan
69 So why is it we train our best prospects there? In fact, why does anybody except maybe the Rockies?
2008-07-18 11:26:56
71.   underdog
Yeah, I don't think AAA should even be in the argument. It's either, he needs to stay down in AA where he is, or he should come back up to the majors. AAA will do nothing for him. If he needs to fine tune a pitch and work up stamina, then fine, keep him in Jacksonville. Or bring him up to LA and put him in the bullpen.
2008-07-18 11:29:27
72.   underdog
70 It's more convenient for the team than for our "next in line" players to be on the other side of the country. Plus Vegas itself isn't quite as bad as some of the other PCL parks in terms of being launching pads. And of course, some of our best prospects are often in A and AA anyway. Half, or more than half, of the Vegas roster is AAAA type players and rehabbing veterans. The prospects that are there are either hitters or some pitchers who are just trying to refine control and the Dodgers aren't quite as worried about their actual ERA (and hopefully their egos are strong enough to take some shots at their confidence).
2008-07-18 11:30:18
73.   berkowit28
What is a "retro" tournament? Far from Greg Norman being on Choi's heels, Norman was in with his (cumulative) level par while Choi was far back on the 12th hole or so. Choi was on Norman's heels, getting one birdy after another, leveling on the 17th, until he finally overtook Norman with another birdy (he had a chance at an eagle) on the 18th. Duval has also been on both their heels, but is faltering at the 16th as we speak - he drops back to 2 over. Meanwhile Villegas (who he? you may ask) has been just one off Norman (so 2 behind leader Choi) since finishing a long time back.

* Courtesy of the BBC website which updates every few minutes (I moved to golf shortly before the cricket finished for the day).

2008-07-18 11:36:13
74.   underdog
Btw Diamond Leung just posted a hilarious old GI Joe educational video that he thinks fits CL Hu and Andruw pretty well. "See" for yourself.

http://www.beloblog.com/Pe_Blogs/prosports/mlb/dodgers/

2008-07-18 11:38:18
75.   El Lay Dave
66 Kershaw threw between 83 and 104 pitches in six of his eight MLB starts. One of the shorter starts was the game where he didn't resume pitching after the rain-delay.
2008-07-18 11:39:04
76.   KG16
74 - "and knowing is half the battle" I use to love those psa's.
2008-07-18 11:40:01
77.   El Lay Dave
73 "retro" indicating that Norman, Choi and Duval's peak success were a bit in the past.
2008-07-18 11:40:05
78.   KG16
75 - then concern over his pitch count/work load is stupid. let him throw, see what happens.
2008-07-18 11:40:40
79.   berkowit28
74 uh...not so hilarious, sort of dull/blah. But OK.
2008-07-18 11:42:12
80.   berkowit28
77 Ah, got it. Thanks. It must take retro vets to conquer that wild weather. ;-)
2008-07-18 11:43:07
81.   old dodger fan
Here we are talking about golf and educational videos. This AS break has been far too long. I need tonights' line up and I need it now.
2008-07-18 11:43:07
82.   underdog
79 Maybe not hilarious, how about "chuckle-worthy"? It was for me anyway, just for its cheesiness and for Diamond's reasoning for showing it. Hey, everyone's a critic!
2008-07-18 11:47:09
83.   Jim Hitchcock
This might be an alternative to Cafe Press:

295guys.com

Apparently they design, print and compress T-shirts for $2.95. And the have a live videocam showing their warehouse operations. They're busy little beavers!

2008-07-18 11:47:11
84.   El Lay Dave
80 You know those PVL golfers, they approach each shot with a plan!
2008-07-18 11:49:49
85.   Bob Timmermann
Choi isn't retro, but Norman (who is 52) would qualify. Duval is just 36, but he hasn't won in a while.

Van de Velde is just 5 strokes out!

2008-07-18 11:49:59
86.   natepurcell
Kershaw has a WHIP of less than one at Jacksonville. Yes, you would like to see more Ks than innings pitched, but I think you can say he is pretty much dominating AA.

As for another hard pitch, I think the Dodgers have a philosophy of not teaching their young pitchers sliders unless they already have that pitch coming into the organization. Like Billingsley though, Honeycutt is going to most likely help Kershaw throw the cutter. Hes going to be awesome with that pitch.

2008-07-18 11:54:33
87.   D4P
John Daly a mere 30 shots off the pace...!
2008-07-18 11:56:07
88.   Xeifrank
83. and you only have to order a minimum of 504 shirts. vr, Xei
2008-07-18 11:56:54
89.   Bob Timmermann
87
Don't you mean 29 strokes? Daly is +28 and Choi finished at -1.

John should be at the airport by now.

2008-07-18 11:57:19
90.   natepurcell
Anyone have a good reason why the A's didn't receive Jason Donald in that package for Blanton? Bobby Crosby is horrible and they don't really have anyone AA prospects in the pipeline. Donald is essentially almost MLB ready and could start next year.
2008-07-18 11:58:12
91.   D4P
89
The British Open website tells me that John shot 80-89, to finish 29 over par.

http://tinyurl.com/6qwlaj

2008-07-18 11:59:52
92.   blue22
90 - Perhaps Beane is getting his starting shortstop from someone else (hmm...who could that be?).
2008-07-18 12:01:05
93.   Bob Timmermann
91
Ahh, so it is. I was on ESPN's site. Which I swore did show 28, but now shows 29.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

2008-07-18 12:02:04
94.   D4P
93
ESPN's leaderboards are often slow/incorrect.
2008-07-18 12:03:35
95.   Bob Timmermann
94
Thank you for humoring me.
2008-07-18 12:03:42
96.   GoBears
I guess they're not the Worldwide Leaders in Leaderboards, eh?
2008-07-18 12:03:59
97.   jujibee
Dodgers.com has a nice article up about Bryan Morris finally getting better from his TJ and dominating the league once again.
2008-07-18 12:04:37
98.   natepurcell
92

Andy Laroche can't play shortstop.

2008-07-18 12:05:56
99.   Lexinthedena
98 Dejesus gets a lot of walks. isn't that all those "Moneyball" guys care about?
2008-07-18 12:06:44
100.   natepurcell
99

I know. I wanted to make a joke because thats how I deal with my sadness.

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2008-07-18 12:06:46
101.   fanerman
Don't we have a SS prospect in Vegas?
2008-07-18 12:07:00
102.   GoBears
It had to happen. Headline on ESPN.com:

Nicklaus wonders if money has made golfers soft

Oy vey.

2008-07-18 12:07:50
103.   GoBears
101. You mean Ramon II? I don't think Beane will it.

Colletti might, but not Beane.

2008-07-18 12:08:23
104.   GoBears
er, I meant "will fall for it."
2008-07-18 12:08:35
105.   blue22
101 - Yes! Rex (don't call me Todd) Rundgren for Huston Street!
2008-07-18 12:13:20
106.   Xeifrank
A roster move from AA or AAA, or does Colletti torcher us with a trade?
vr, Xei
2008-07-18 12:14:03
107.   underdog
If Morris and Elbert are both back as strongly as it appears they are, our young pitching could be loaded again.
2008-07-18 12:15:14
108.   underdog
Actually with De Jesus in the wings, would people do a Hu for Street trade or is that totally stupid? I'm generally not in favor of trading for relievers because they are pretty easily replaceable from within usually, and that's how Beane feels too. So Hu is probably too much.
2008-07-18 12:15:20
109.   D4P