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Jon attended: 302-238 (.559)*
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Starting Pitchers (5)
$10,000,000 Hiroki Kuroda
*$475,000 Chad Billingsley
*$415,000 Clayton Kershaw
*$405,000 Eric Stults
*$400,000 James McDonald
*Total: $11,695,000

Bullpen (7)
*$2,500,000 Takashi Saito
*$1,300,000 Scott Proctor
*$1,500,000 Jonathan Broxton
*$425,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
*$420,000 Cory Wade
*$410,000 Ramon Troncoso
*$400,000 Scott Elbert
Total: $6,955,000

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Mario Alvarez
Yhency Brazoban
Greg Miller
Justin Orenduff

Starting Lineup (8)
$17,100,000 Andruw Jones
*$3,000,000 Russell Martin
*$2,500,000 Andre Ethier
*$600,000 Matt Kemp
*$600,000 James Loney
*$500,000 Angel Berroa
*$410,000 Blake DeWitt
*$400,000 Tony Abreu
Total: $25,110,000

Bench (5)
$10,000,000 Juan Pierre
*$600,000 Jason Repko
*$410,000 Delwyn Young
*$400,000 Danny Ardoin
*$400,000 Chin-Lung Hu
Total: $11,810,000
Note: Team can buy out Ozuna's 2009 option for $200,000

Also on 40-man roster
A.J. Ellis
Lucas May
Xavier Paul

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$12,000,000 Jason Schmidt

Also Paying ...
$2,000,000 Brad Penny (buyout of $9,000,000 option)
$50,000 Gary Bennett (buyout of $900,000 option)
Note: Kansas City is responsible for $500,000 buyout of Angel Berroa's $5,500,000 option for 2009.

Working total: *$68,020,000

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Six of One
2008-07-21 07:29
by Jon Weisman

Having pushed to reach my filing quota by the end of the fiscal year, I can now proudly celebrate the sixth anniversary of Dodger Thoughts. Six! Thanks to everyone for your support - I really mean it.

Dodgers on July 21, 2002-2007
2007: Dodgers 8, Mets 6 (Dodgers 55-43, 1 game up)

2006: Cardinals 2, Dodgers 0 (Dodgers 47-50, 3 1/2 games out)

2005: Dodgers 1, Phillies 0 (Dodgers 43-62, 6 1/2 games out)

2004: Rockies 6, Dodgers 5 (Dodgers 54-39, 2 1/2 games up)

2003: Rockies 4, Dodgers 1 (Dodgers 51-47, 10 1/2 games out)

2002: Giants 6, Dodgers 4 (Dodgers 56-43, 1 1/2 games out)

Comments (224)
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2008-07-21 07:48:50
1.   Bob Timmermann
I was at Dodger Stadium for the 2006 game.

That's when I almost rumbled with the Cardinal fans sitting behind me.

Cooler heads prevailed.

2008-07-21 07:50:52
2.   dianagramr
Congrats Jon ... and thanks for the site.

6th Wedding Anniversary
Traditional Gifts: Candy or Iron
Modern Gifts: Wood

Hmmm .... Candy Maldonado?

2008-07-21 07:56:56
3.   JoeyP
LAT'ed:

At what point did Russ Martin become a below average defensive catcher?

I checked his Stolen Bases/CS'ing percentage, and his numbers are really bad.

49 SBs
13 CS's.

Its in the bottom half of the league average percentage wise, and only Brian McCann has given up more straight SBs (though his CS'ing percentage is higher).

Jason Kendall (who's actually caught more innings than Russ shockingly) is probably the favorite for the Gold Glove: He's thrown out 47% of base stealers. 28 SBs, 25 CS'ings.

Is this all on the Dodger pitchers?

Or is Russ overrated defensively?

I'm really wanting his bat at 2nd base, especially if Carlos Santana keeps up his pace. If the Dodgers want to keep Russ behind the plate bc of his bat, then thats fine. But his defense seems to have gotten worse since he's been in the big leagues.

2008-07-21 08:11:06
4.   Jon Weisman
At last year's July 21 game, Jonathan Broxton got a five-out save, using 18 pitches.

D Wright Strikeout Swinging
C Delgado Strikeout Swinging
R Castro Groundout: SS-1B (Weak SS)
M Anderson Bunt Popfly: P (Front of Home)
L Milledge Strikeout Swinging

2008-07-21 08:13:58
5.   fernst2937
Keep up your good work Jon

your site has revived my interest in the Dodgers and baseball

2008-07-21 08:22:26
6.   Neal Pollack
Congrats, Jon. You keep the fire burning.

And I think we can all agree: At least it's not 2005.

2008-07-21 08:23:43
7.   D4P
And I think we can all agree: At least it's not 2005

Yeah. Now we've got a real GM.

2008-07-21 08:27:02
8.   cargill06
I have a question for any fantasy baseball players.

In our league you're allowed to have 75 pick-up's/ drop's for a season. One player in our leage ran out of moves so he can only make trades. Even since Saito went down I wanted to get another closer to replace him, I spoke with the guy who's out of moves about Hoffman. After a week of being unable to work out a trade he finally says, if I pick up Zimmerman he'd trade me Hoffman for Zimmerman. This is completely leagel per our league rules, however, it has ruffled some feathers with people in the leauge. I don't see it as a big deal, do you consider this unethical?

2008-07-21 08:31:14
9.   Doctor
3

Looks like a fine 3B to me. It needs to happen.

2008-07-21 08:32:57
10.   nofatmike
From the 2002 game (during the stretch when they were unable to score runs, I believe):

Top of the 8th inning, Giants Batting, Behind 3-4, Giovanni Carrara facing 4-5-6
R Sanders Home Run (CF-RF)
R Aurilia Strikeout Looking
B Santiago Popfly: SS
R Martinez Popfly: 2B
Giants 4, Dodgers 4.

Top of the 9th, Giants Batting, Tied 4-4, Giovanni Carrara facing 8-9-1
Mike Kinkade replaces Hiram Bocachica playing 1B batting 4th
T Shinjo Groundout: 1B unassisted
J.T. Snow pinch hits for Russ Ortiz batting 9th
J Snow Walk
Kirk Rueter pinch runs for J.T. Snow batting 9th
T Goodwin Home Run; Rueter Scores
D Bell Lineout: RF
J Kent Groundout: 1B unassisted
Giants 6, Dodgers 4

Oh Gio Carrara, how I don't miss thee.

2008-07-21 08:37:03
11.   Disabled List
We were 12 games over .500 at this point last year? Wow. When you think about the differences between last year's team and this year's (Torre, etc.), it boggles the mind a little.
2008-07-21 08:37:13
12.   berkowit28
"A" in "NAPUT" for "Anniversary"? Not something I'll need to remember until next year this time?
2008-07-21 08:43:04
13.   DodgerBakers
8 To me, that doesn't sound unethical. I think it is a creative way to get what you need for your team.
2008-07-21 08:43:33
14.   Bob Hendley
Congrats to Jon and the rest of you guys and gals that make it happen. (Free KG16!)
2008-07-21 08:44:13
15.   twerp
11 But Ned said (rhymes, even!) he knew the team was playing a bit over its head last year.

IIRC the team had the best record in the majors at one point...but I don't think anyone would seriously claim the Dodgers ever were the best team.

2008-07-21 08:51:17
16.   D4P
Ned said (rhymes, even!) he knew the team was playing a bit over its head last year

A GM only says that if/when his/her team collapses.

2008-07-21 08:52:03
17.   cargill06
14 what happened to KG16?
2008-07-21 08:53:06
18.   okdodge
8 75 moves already in a season? That's a lot of moves. I wasn't aware ethics were involved in fantasy leagues, make the move.
2008-07-21 08:55:27
19.   Bob Hendley
17 - I wasn't around, but looking back at the thread it looks like there was a disagreement on balls and strikes, which ended up with him signing off. (I blame Sutton).
2008-07-21 08:58:13
20.   Kevin Lewis
What a fantastic weekend of baseball. I gotta say that the two at bats by Kemp against Lyon were the epitome of what we don't want and what we do want. After Jones walked on Saturday and Lyon had been showing control issues, Matt hacked away on an high and in fastball. But, yesterdays at bat was fantastic. He is learning and he will only get better. I am such a sap because seeing Joe Torre pointing at Matt and clapping after the double made my heart swell.

Oh, and I am glad I still have my Ethier jersey.

2008-07-21 08:59:36
21.   Kevin Lewis
8
If the rules allow it, make the move.
2008-07-21 09:01:56
22.   underdog
Being 10.5 games out in '03 and yet 4 games over .500 also looks strange compared to this year. But I'll take being in first place whatever the record over being 10.5 games out.
2008-07-21 09:03:30
23.   Bob Timmermann
10
A baseball game won by Russ Ortiz with Tom Goodwin hitting the game-winning home run.

Oh that was a day of misery.

2008-07-21 09:05:07
24.   Woden325
Interesting that 3 of the anniversary games have been against the Rockies, (03, 04, 08). I'm taking it as a good omen.

Happy Anniversary.

2008-07-21 09:06:45
25.   Kevin Lewis
I ask this only because of how lethargic Jones looked in the outfield this weekend (I know about the flu). Was Jones hustling down the line on the botched double play? I know it was close no matter what, but it looked like he had sort of assumed the double play would happened, and he didn't quite run hard the whole way.
2008-07-21 09:07:06
26.   Xeifrank
According to SportsClubStats, yesterday's win over Arizona boosted the Dodgers chances of making the playoffs by 5.9%. Today's game against the Rockies, doesn't have quite the same leverage, but coupled with the DBacks game against the Cubs, it very well could. Today's win leverage. vr, Xei
Dodgers WIN: +4.1%
Cubs WIN: 2.6%
Rockies WIN: -4.0%
DBacks WIN: -2.6%
2008-07-21 09:11:51
27.   underdog
25 - I may be remembering a different play, but I do remember him hustling down the line on a play to almost beat out a throw to first. Can't remember if it was that one or another. But he seemed to run pretty hard...
2008-07-21 09:13:14
28.   cargill06
25 i believe he was hustling, the ball was hit hard and he almost beat it out so had to have been running hard.
2008-07-21 09:19:52
29.   Kevin Lewis
28

Good point. I think my knee jerk is to always look at his playing with skeptical eyes.

2008-07-21 09:20:57
30.   nofatmike
23 No wonder Jon started a blog that day, that's the kind of pain you just have to share with others just to make sure you're not the only one that's feeling it. I guess misery is the ultimate source of inspiration.
2008-07-21 09:23:44
31.   underdog
I'm sure it's just another kooky rumor, but now the Dodgers are being linked with (meaning they're looking at) Toronto SS John McDonald, who I'm sure would be dirt cheap but with good reason. Why is he any better than whatever else they have? Jack Wilson would be too expensive but at least he has some merit. Anyway, it's probably just a silly rumor from Ken Rosenthal.
2008-07-21 09:26:29
32.   bhsportsguy
31 I think there is still concern about Nomar playing SS 4-5 days a week and they would probably feel better having Nomar and DeWitt switching off at 3B and having a good fielding SS batting 8th.

That would be my guess.

But it wouldn't cost LaRoche to make that move.

2008-07-21 09:26:40
33.   Doctor
Do we REALY think Johnson is starting tomorrow and not Kershaw? I sort of assumed Johnson was called up for help out of the pen in AZ only (no point in calling Kershaw up to ride the bench for 3 days).
2008-07-21 09:28:22
34.   cargill06
33 yes, i think johnson is starting.
2008-07-21 09:29:14
35.   drewjensen
Keith Law was on the radio this morning responding to the question of whether the Dodgers were "for real." He stated that he actually likes the Dodgers, and certainly their pitching, but he thought the lineup would be fine as well if they would just stop fooling around with the lineup and get the right people in there. That they need to stop this Blake Dewitt experiment and get Andy Laroche in the lineup every day to see what he can do.

Andy Laroche, Cause Celebre.

2008-07-21 09:34:38
36.   Ken Noe
31 32 McDonald, at .190/.242/.207, is no more than a better fielding Berroa or an older Hu. I'm going to assume that this is a typically off-base Rosenthal report based on chatting with a peanut vendor at SkyDome.
2008-07-21 09:35:31
37.   Ken Noe
And by the way, Jon you're the person who deserves thanks. Thanks.
2008-07-21 09:37:06
38.   cargill06
I'm going to assume that this is a typically off-base Rosenthal report based on chatting with a peanut vendor at SkyDome.

That line is going to be tough to top today.

2008-07-21 09:38:07
39.   unlazy4sports
8: I don't think it's unethical at all. Don't Major League teams do this for waiver wire or rule 5 draft aquisitions?
2008-07-21 09:41:01
40.   underdog
32/36 - Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. McDonald is no better than Hu with the bat right now, and Hu is a great fielder - they could just call Hu up if that's all they need, no?
2008-07-21 09:43:12
41.   regfairfield
40 He's got the eyeball thing, plus McDonald would be useful next year. McDonald is good enough defensively that he's almost an average player and would be an improvement over what we have. If we can get him for a C prospect, we should jump on it.
2008-07-21 09:49:05
42.   blue22
If we go fishing for a SS from Toronto, how do we not come back with Eckstein? He's been benched and makes a good chunk of change; I would think Toronto lets him go cheaply enough.
2008-07-21 09:50:03
43.   MollyKnight
Wow. I just looked through my blog archives for old July 21st entries and they're spectacularly awful:

July 21 2007 I had bronchitis and my server was down.
July 21 2006 I flew from LA to Boston to see my then-boyfriend and broke my toe on his exercise equipment. Then we broke up.
July 21 2005 I wrote: "Today I am so broken I could swallow a quarter and not even light up. I wish my forehead could vomit."

So, yah! July 21st!

2008-07-21 09:52:12
44.   regfairfield
42 They're probably about equally as valuable, since Eckstein can't really play short anymore, plus I think Ned is looking to next year.
2008-07-21 09:56:05
45.   Bob Timmermann
On the Griddle last year on July 21:
1) Luis Vizcaino won both ends of a doubleheader
2) Willie Harris went 6 for 6
3) I whined about people in Brooklyn

In 2006
1) there was a Random Game Callback to 1994 (Yankees 11, Angels 7)
2) the Orioles recalled Fernando Tatis from the minors
3) Bill Mueller's knee was declared shot
4) I made my first Wandy Rodriguez joke and those are like gold, Jerry. Gold!

I didn't write for the Griddle until late in 2005.

2008-07-21 09:58:13
46.   blue22
44 - So apparently Eckstein is the old white guy version of DeJesus, and McDonald is the old white guy version of Hu?
2008-07-21 09:59:28
47.   regfairfield
46 Close enough.
2008-07-21 10:00:21
48.   D4P
If Eckstein were to become a Dodger, Plashcke would annointeth Ned's head with oil such that Ned's cup would runneth over.
2008-07-21 10:06:26
49.   D4P
McDonald is remarkably horrendous on offense, even by Ned's standards. I'm not buying it.
2008-07-21 10:09:06
50.   MollyKnight
Today is going so well for me that I worry we'll make a horrendous trade only so that next year I have something to add to the list, like:

July 21 2008: Traded Matt Kemp and Andy LaRoche for David Eckstein and AJ Burnett.

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2008-07-21 10:11:23
51.   Bob Timmermann
50
Now that putative trade is of paranoid thinking that outdoes "The Parallax View."
2008-07-21 10:11:59
52.   Icaros
50

I hope Jon deletes that comment. Uncool, Molly.

2008-07-21 10:15:53
53.   blue22
49 - He can really pick it though. +26 last year on +/-.

You're right though, given the stunning incompetence on offense out of the shortstop position, I'd be surprised to acquire another .160-hitting shortstop.

2008-07-21 10:19:02
54.   fanerman
45 Whatever happened to the random game callbacks?
2008-07-21 10:19:46
55.   Dexter Fishmore
Happy birthday, Dodger Thoughts! And a heartfelt thanks to Jon for six great years.
2008-07-21 10:23:07
56.   Bob Timmermann
54
I don't have access to enough old newspapers to do them.

And they took a LOT of time.

2008-07-21 10:25:12
57.   JoeyP
Not that this team needs pitching, but the team could do a lot worse than targeting AJ Burnett.

The price would probably be low, plus getting him would mean high draft picks.

2008-07-21 10:26:28
58.   Bob Timmermann
Did anyone else notice this from Tony Jackson in the Daily News?

"I thought the best decision I could have made was to play for the Dodgers," Ozuna said, with Kenji Nimura translating. "Any ballplayer wants to be part of a winning team, and obviously, this team has a great chance to play in the playoffs."

So do Kenji Nimura and Dylan Hernandez have conversations in three different languages?

2008-07-21 10:26:34
59.   Disabled List
With Nomar PVL'ing it up nicely for the time being, I don't think Ned is going to go fishing for a SS. I could see him going after a 3B though, possibly (probably) even trading LaRoche for one.
2008-07-21 10:28:33
60.   cargill06
57 when we have stults, park, johnson, etc. in the rotation and it seems like we're going to keep kershaw's IP low. Burnett doesn't sound all that bad.
2008-07-21 10:30:06
61.   JoeyP
Would Joe Torre advocate trading for a 3rd basemen though? He seems really enamored with Dewitt.

But then again, maybe Ned & Joe arent quite on the same page.

I say this, because Joe's comments about the Dodgers having no pinch hitters (even when Berroa was on the bench), was quite scathing.

2008-07-21 10:30:51
62.   DaDoughboy
Being that Kershaw hasn't allowed an earned run in his last 2 starts, I think he should get a shot this week. Unless they are worried about the confidence roller coaster (which he is already on) and how it could affect the rest of his season of course..
2008-07-21 10:32:01
63.   D4P
61
I've wondered about that too. Who (if either) is dissatisfied with the current 3B situation: Ned, Joe, or Ned&Joe...?
2008-07-21 10:37:08
64.   Jon Weisman
43 - Molly, you're the greatest :)
2008-07-21 10:37:33
65.   Disabled List
63 Joe is happy with Blake, unhappy with Andy. Ned is probably unhappy with both.

It really is remarkable how madly and deeply Torre has fallen in love with DeWitt. The Banterers warned us this would happen, but I just figured he'd resume his fling with Proctor.

2008-07-21 10:38:10
66.   Lexinthedena
Happy six years Jon. This site has enriched me greatly as a baseball fan. Thanks Jon, and everyone else who makes this site what it is.
2008-07-21 10:39:02
67.   D4P
Does Ned have any mechanism at his disposal to ensure that any newly-acquired 3B plays over DeWitt...?
2008-07-21 10:39:41
68.   Ken Noe
61 63 I suspect what it really means is that they're both currently disappointed with DeWitt, downright opposed to LaRoche for some reason, and most of all determined to keep Nomar in the lineup at third or short.
2008-07-21 10:41:31
69.   blue22
65 - DeWitt probably prevents Ned from making a Casey Blake-sized move, but I don't think Torre would be upset about benching DeWitt for Adrian Beltre.

67 - Send him down.

2008-07-21 10:41:55
70.   regfairfield
Since Ned is Torre's boss, couldn't he just take DeWitt away from him if he really was unhappy?
2008-07-21 10:42:20
71.   D4P
Send him down

Yeah. Trade LaRoche and ship DeWitt back to the minors. That sounds likely.

2008-07-21 10:43:28
72.   Lexinthedena
68 Yeah, it seems that although DeWitt is not hitting, Laroche is not even considered an alternative for reasons unknown. It makes me wonder if Beltre will be coming back.
2008-07-21 10:43:54
73.   Ken Noe
70 Ned is only Joe's boss on the organizational chart. In the real world, Joe is the alpha male, and Ned will assimilate or disappear.
2008-07-21 10:44:41
74.   Disabled List
Ned is Torre's de jure boss. Joe wears the de facto pants in the Dodger management.
2008-07-21 10:44:48
75.   LoneStar7
I think Andy should get three starts in colorado then they can try to assess 3B...its just unfair, how many back to back starts has he had this season, if any?
2008-07-21 10:45:07
76.   MollyKnight
51, 52- It's kind of like a Rule 9 violation: If it's spoken about while in the process of happening, it won't come true.
2008-07-21 10:45:24
77.   blue22
75 - So when he goes 3-for-12, what then?
2008-07-21 10:46:35
78.   JoeyP
70--Not if Joe has more pull with McCourt than Ned does.

I have to think that if the Dodgers make any trade, then all 3 will be discussing it, with Ned lowest on the decision making totem pole.

2008-07-21 10:48:16
79.   Jon Weisman
Sunday was the wedding anniversary of Jim McLennan of AZ Snakepit.

http://www.azsnakepit.com/2008/7/21/575543/diamondbacks-5-dodgers-6-t

2008-07-21 10:48:24
80.   Lexinthedena
78 What about White and Ng?
2008-07-21 10:49:13
81.   Bob Timmermann
74
I bought some de facto pants once at the de facto Gap. They tried to interest me in a de jure pocket T, but I didn't want one.
2008-07-21 10:49:13
82.   delias man
58 Heard on Pre-game interview last Sunday with Steiner that he does speak all 3 languages...
2008-07-21 10:49:48
83.   LoneStar7
77 then they probably tool around with it, I just think we've spent a lot of time grooming and preparing for this succeed as a Dodger third baseman, lets give him a few starts before shipping him off
2008-07-21 10:49:53
84.   Disabled List
I've given this a lot of thought, and I've come to the conclusion that Ned should quit. He's just not getting any respect, inside or outside the organization.
2008-07-21 10:50:06
85.   D4P
All Gap pants come from de factory in China.
2008-07-21 10:50:11
86.   bhsportsguy
Why is hard to understand what Torre said about the 3B situation this weekend. Torre or his coaching staff only saw Andy play in 9 games (22 PA) this spring before he went out with an injury. Blake DeWitt had 71 PA (3.5 times as many) and because of injuries, played every day, cementing the opinions of those who watched him.

There was a brief window when that could have changed in April when DeWitt was sent down for Nomar but that only lasted a day. By the time Andy was ready, DeWitt was in a midst of his hot streak and really the team was probably more concerned with SS and Penny's spot than 3B.

2008-07-21 10:51:29
87.   JoeyP
I doubt they'd veto any deal based on Logan's opinion. At least, I think McCourt/Torre both have veto powers in the trades that Ned brings them.
2008-07-21 10:51:59
88.   regfairfield
The problem is that you can't get a statistically relevant sample from a series, a week, or a month or games. There's no real correlation in stats for at least 200 plate apperances, and even then it's sketchy. Until then, you can't look at a player's numbers to evaluate him, you just have to go buy scouting. Maybe there's something wrong with Andy's swing that Torre/Ned notices and they don't want to start him for that reason. Even so, isn't it Mattingly's responsibility to fix him?
2008-07-21 10:52:02
89.   Disabled List
85 Nice. +1
2008-07-21 10:52:27
90.   LoneStar7
83 sorry for the miffed wording, ive been up since 5:45 for an alma awards press conference at universal...I'm still a bit of a zombie
2008-07-21 10:52:34
91.   LogikReader
2006: Cardinals 2, Dodgers 0 (Dodgers 47-50, 3 1/2 games out)

47-50? My goodness, I thought that 2006 team was pretty good, and their record on this date was worse than our record today.

Personally I might argue that this year's team is just as good and possibly better, at least in pitching. Its a younger team this time around.

Happy 6th Anniversary Jon! Dodger baseball is enhanced with this site's presence.

2008-07-21 10:53:33
92.   blue22
84 - Isn't his contract up this off-season? I wouldn't be happy if I were in his position if any of this is true. As for McCourt, I wouldn't be super-excited to pay Colletti another million bucks a year for someone with all the pull of an assistant GM.
2008-07-21 10:54:16
93.   D4P
86
The part we're wondering about now is whether Torre actually likes DeWitt in an absolute sense (and wants him to remain the starting 3B for the rest of the season instead of replacing him via trade), or whether Torre just prefers DeWitt over LaRoche (and would be open to replacing DeWitt via trade).
2008-07-21 10:55:03
94.   JoeyP
Why is hard to understand what Torre said about the 3B situation this weekend. Torre or his coaching staff only saw Andy play in 9 games (22 PA) this spring before he went out with an injury

Because most managers should be able to formulate opinions on guys careers, not based on 9 games in spring training. Isnt that what scouting/stats are for--->to make up for not being able to see a player in person? If Torre is only making decisions based on what his eyes see, and not what players have done their entire careers--thats a problem.

But I really dont think he's doing that. If he was, then Andruw would have been benched a long time ago.

I just think he does have an irrational love for Dewitt. Why? Who knows?

2008-07-21 10:55:23
95.   bhsportsguy
86 And to me the crux of the argument that LaRoche had better numbers in the minors and should be given a shot, while true to me, is countered by the patience exhibited by Torre in keeping DeWitt in the lineup.

I mean, its hard for me to say, Joe, send him back down to the minors and give another rookie a shot because to me, it means Andy has to get off to hot start or else the team gets to move on again and I can't then say, well give Andy at least 200 PA to see what he can do. That just isn't going to happen at this part of the season when you have 60 odd games left and you are tied for first.

2008-07-21 10:55:47
96.   Jon Weisman
Garciaparra now has a 120 OPS+.
2008-07-21 10:56:53
97.   Lexinthedena
96 Small sample size!
2008-07-21 10:58:03
98.   JoeyP
Position changes are cool.
2008-07-21 10:58:13
99.   regfairfield
96 So what do we do if Nomar goes back to a low .800 OPS guy?
2008-07-21 10:58:58
100.   D4P
Nomar's a bit like Milton, except older. The issue with Nomar is not that he can't hit, but that he can't stay in the lineup.

(Plus, his age casts at least some degree of doubt on whether he can still hit, but not so much doubt that good hitting from him is a complete surprise).

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2008-07-21 10:59:51
101.   JoeyP
I can't then say, well give Andy at least 200 PA to see what he can do. That just isn't going to happen at this part of the season when you have 60 odd games left and you are tied for first.

But what do the Dodgers have to lose?

Is LaRoche really going to put up a worse OPS than DeWitt's .680 or so? Dewitt already is doing horribly, why not go with the guy that might not suck?

2008-07-21 11:00:26
102.   Lexinthedena
100 I have been surprised at how good he's been hitting.
2008-07-21 11:00:29
103.   bhsportsguy
Because most managers should be able to formulate opinions on guys ca