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Kershaw XIII: Kershawp Around the Corner
2008-08-12 17:16
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

Tonight's Lineup
Juan Pierre, CF
Matt Kemp, RF
Jeff Kent, 2B
Manny Ramirez, LF
Casey Blake, 3B
Nomar Garciaparra, SS
Russell Martin, C
James Loney, 1B
Clayton Kershaw, P
Andruw Jones will probably not return until after rosters expand September 1 after being placed on the disabled list today.

Jones has been a much better hitter than Clayton Kershaw this year.

* * *

Phillies at Dodgers, 7:10 p.m.

Comments (496)
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2008-08-12 17:22:40
1.   timm
$18,000,000 and a puff of smoke. Can he hit $36,000,000 worth of home runs next year?
2008-08-12 17:23:18
2.   Eric Enders
Kershaw batted .267 for Jacksonville.

I'm just saying.

2008-08-12 17:24:49
3.   Jon Weisman
Jones OPSed 1.431 for Las Vegas.
2008-08-12 17:25:37
4.   Eric Enders
That's a great movie by the way. One of the less-known Jimmy Stewart classics.
2008-08-12 17:26:03
5.   Tripon
Clatyon Kershaw is a -100 OPS+. The bum.
2008-08-12 17:26:06
6.   Johnson
I like the shiny new lineup box, but shouldn't it be on the game thread?
2008-08-12 17:26:24
7.   LAT
1 Can anyone?
2008-08-12 17:28:51
8.   Zak
7 Maybe someone from a rec softball league.
2008-08-12 17:29:44
9.   Eric Enders
If Andruw Jones hits a Kirk Gibson home run in the World Series, would that be worth $36 million by itself?
2008-08-12 17:29:54
10.   Jon Weisman
6 - It's just an experiment. It should be with the game thread, but the timing was off as far as when I got the lineup and my linking to TBLA.
2008-08-12 17:30:19
11.   Tripon
I can build a robot that can hit homeruns for $36 million. Does that count?
2008-08-12 17:30:28
12.   Jon Weisman
9 - I'd settle for a Mike Davis moment if a Russell Martin homer followed.
2008-08-12 17:32:26
13.   Johnson
10 Well, as far as experiments go, I like it.
2008-08-12 17:38:15
14.   GoBears
Hi all. I'm headed to the Stadium on Thursday, and wanted to ask for opinions about directions. I go all the time, but from home, which is Rancho Park. From there I usually take Olympic to either Alvarado or Figueroa, and then jog my way to the park. This time, it'll be from the NE corner of UCLA, and while that's only 3 miles from home, the difference is significant during commute time. I'd like to avoid the freeway because at 5-5:30, it can take 20 minutes just to get to the 405.

So, what's the best route? Sunset seems to take forever. Wilshire means going through about 45 stoplights in Beverly Hills (there must be one every 100 feet). I could go south to Olympic or Pico, which is essentially going home, then east. How far east on Wilshire before the ridiculous number of stoplights ends? Fairfax? Further east? I'm not remembering clearly.

I appreciate your suggestions.

2008-08-12 17:38:17
15.   bhsportsguy
Andruw Jones to the DL pretty much keeps Juan Pierre as a 4th outfielder in a strange lefty/lefty platoon with Ethier.

After tonight's game, the Dodgers will face 6 righthanders and 2 lefthanders on this homestand and then repeat the same 4 starters in Philadelphia.

So in the next 2 weeks the Dodgers will face 4 lefthanders and 9 righthanders. I am assuming at some point Manny gets a day off but it might not be until maybe one of the games in Philly or DC.

2008-08-12 17:39:39
16.   Tripon
15 Manny getting a day off? Unlikely since he's want to play every day to show everyone that he still has the goods. He'll might get pulled for defense in the late innings but thats it.
2008-08-12 17:40:14
17.   natepurcell
Josh Lindblom at Great Lakes...

19IP 10H 2bb 18k 1hr 1.42era

Slowing building up the innings over time, last outing was 5 innings.

thoughts?

2008-08-12 17:41:02
18.   bhsportsguy
14 I would get down to 6th street and take that East (you can get on 6th from San Vincente). Take 6th all the way to Alvarado.
2008-08-12 17:41:02
19.   Eric Enders
18 Bump him up to the Cal League for his last couple of games.
2008-08-12 17:42:51
20.   Alex41592
Owings is one of the two PTBNL in the Dunn deal.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/articles/2008/08/12/20080812spt-owings.html

2008-08-12 17:43:04
21.   Eric Enders
At Ogden, meanwhile, Kyle Russell has stopped hitting home runs and stopped walking, but continued striking out.
2008-08-12 17:43:31
22.   natepurcell
19

Okay, I'll shoot over a quick email to DeJon and let him know.

2008-08-12 17:45:09
23.   Tripon
20 High risk, high reward in Owens. At least its looking like a much better trade for the Reds now.
2008-08-12 17:45:55
24.   Eric Enders
20 It's a bit surprising that the Arizona Republic is willing to publish that without citing a single source, not even an unnamed one.
2008-08-12 17:48:38
25.   GoBears
18. Thanks BH, but then how would you get to the San Vicente/6th Street intersection? The shortest route is to take Wilshire, but that passes through exactly the stretch in BH (ahem) that I'd like to avoid. Is jogging up Santa Monica to Burton to San Vicente a good option? I know it's possible, but is it smart? Does Burton have the same stoplight gauntlet as Wilshire?
2008-08-12 17:49:21
26.   natepurcell
21

Delmonico and Nick Buss are mashing with good k/bb rates.

2008-08-12 17:49:31
27.   Tripon
http://www.azsnakepit.com/2008/8/12/592428/better-red-than-dead-micah#comments

the snakepit reacts.

2008-08-12 17:50:34
28.   68elcamino427
Off to Las Vegas with you now Jonesy.

We'll call you when the time is right.

Good Luck.

2008-08-12 17:51:05
29.   D4P
Canada has the chunkiest (female synchronized) diver I've ever seen.
2008-08-12 17:51:07
30.   regfairfield
How do they plan on Owings clearing waivers?
2008-08-12 17:51:38
31.   Tripon
It'll be interesting if Furcal comes back in Sept. Does that mean Normar is benched? Moved to 3rd? Casey Blake benched? Of course this all assumes that somehow, someway Normar lasts until Sept.
2008-08-12 17:51:42
32.   D4P
Doesn't Micah Owings pretty much suck at pitching...?
2008-08-12 17:51:56
33.   natepurcell
30

If he doesn't, they pull him back and they complete the transaction after the season.

2008-08-12 17:52:51
34.   Tripon
30 They could just have the Reds pick up Owens on waviers. Only San Fran, San Diego, and Washington can claim before the Reds.
2008-08-12 17:54:29
35.   Icaros
I knew the Selfish Little Pouter would start tonight after getting a pinch-hit and Ethier losing one in the lights.
2008-08-12 17:54:55
36.   Suffering Bruin
Hey, folks! I'm moving to Hermosa Beach! Packing, taping boxes full of back-breaking weight (lots of books) and I can get on the net on occasion! I look for pleasant breaks from moving so I check this site and lookee here! A lineup box, right up to there. And lo, what do I see? At the very, tippy top of said lineup box? With Cole Hamels on the mound?

Pierre. With Loney 8th and Ethier on the bench. 'Cause, you know, with Hamels on the hill, PVL is needed here.

(long pause, deep sigh, silent counting to ten before calm response...)

It's like sending the infantry to charge the cavalry. That's what this is. I'm going to back to moving. If nothing else, I've got some renewed energy what this anger being turned in to resolve and all.

2008-08-12 17:55:28
37.   gpellamjr
What is the latest on Furcal's possibly making a comeback this year? Is there any hope?
2008-08-12 17:55:42
38.   D4P
I'm moving to Hermosa Beach!

I hear that beach is beautiful.

2008-08-12 17:56:08
39.   Tripon
36 Have fun moving to a city's thats going to be bankrupt because of a shady deal with an oil company!
2008-08-12 17:56:14
40.   Suffering Bruin
35 His anger and mine, occuring at the same time on this here board. It's like we're brothers separated by a billion dollar train project or something.
2008-08-12 17:57:55
41.   Suffering Bruin
39 Hey, seriously... I come here to improve my mood! Now, instead of moving, I'm going to be checking google all night.

You guys... gosh! :)

2008-08-12 17:58:02
42.   Tripon
35 Is your real name T.J. Simers?
2008-08-12 17:59:23
43.   MollyKnight
Micah Owings is a pretty good young pitcher. If there were a SnakesThoughts it would thoroughly venomous right now.
2008-08-12 18:02:15
44.   FirstMohican
14 I'd take 3rd or Beverly. Keep in mind there's construction on Alvarado near the 101 - there's only 1 northbound lane. If you take Beverly, you can continue on Silverlake, left on Parkman, right on Sunset. That'd give you the option of parking on the Stadium Way entrance or the Elysian Park entrance.
2008-08-12 18:03:07
45.   Icaros
42

No, it didn't take me over a year to realize Pierre sucks.

2008-08-12 18:03:40
46.   Zak
28 He won't go to Vegas. He will stay with the team and try to get his head as clear as Manny's. I hope that didn't come out bad.
2008-08-12 18:05:09
47.   68elcamino427
Juan Pierre just makes me {cringe}.

Did the outfield hitting area just get a little bit larger with Manny in left and Pierre in center?
Here's hoping Kershaw can induce the ground ball tonight along with the strikeouts.

2008-08-12 18:08:28
48.   68elcamino427
46
Bet you're right on this. Banking $36,000,000.00 Jonsey can do as he pleases.
2008-08-12 18:08:47
49.   Tripon
http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/content/oh/story/sports/pro/reds/2008/08/12/ddn081308spowingsweb.html

Dayton Daily News is also reporting that Owens to Reds. Its pretty much official now.

2008-08-12 18:09:21
50.   Suffering Bruin
Yeah, so I just googled "Hermosa Beach Oil Bankruptcy" and it didn't take long to realize that my new city could be a very poor city very soon.

I'm going to tape some boxes to gentle sound of Black flag now so I'll be busy. Hold hands when you cross the street.

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2008-08-12 18:10:28
51.   Megaballs
Can we assume that Ned doesn't have the stones to put Andruw and/or Pierre on irrevocable waivers, ie pick him up and he and the contract are yours? Thats the first thought I had when the Manny deal gave us 5 ofs not including Pee Wee...

We'd likely hear if either cleared waivers, no?

2008-08-12 18:11:50
52.   ToyCannon
36
Hey you are moving to Hermosa, what do need any sympathy for? Beach Vollyball every day, beach, sand, girls, life.........
2008-08-12 18:11:51
53.   Icaros
50

"Damaged by you! Damaged by me!"

2008-08-12 18:12:54
54.   GoBears
44. Excellent. Thanks FM. I've never taken Beverly to Silverlake. It'll be an adventure.
2008-08-12 18:13:47
55.   ToyCannon
50
Pre or Post Henry Rollins?
2008-08-12 18:15:24
56.   ToyCannon
49
Dusty needs to put him in the outfield and forget about pitching. They have pitching, what they need are outfielders.
2008-08-12 18:16:35
57.   paranoidandroid
Manny was floated on waivers not so many years ago. I think a lot of big contracts are on waivers from time to time and we don't hear about them clearing all the time.
2008-08-12 18:17:53
58.   Tripon
56 Micah Owens, Reds new, best relief pitcher/pitch hitter/outfielder?
2008-08-12 18:18:12
59.   ToyCannon
You would zink that when you score 10 runs in the 1st inning you are on easy street. Boston 14 Texas 10 and Mr. Zink did not have a good debut.
2008-08-12 18:19:43
60.   bhsportsguy
Okay, heres the thing about players to be named later, the two rules are complete the trade within 6 months and that player cannot be in the same league at the time of the trade.

So, it doesn't matter if Owings pitched for half a season in Arizona, he can be traded as a PTBNL because he wasn't on the active roster at the time of the trade.

Now, there could still be the problem of Owings not clearing waivers but they can wait until the end of the year before trading him.

Now, I don't know if this means Owings cannot come up to Arizona in September, certainly it would be strange to play for a team that you know you are no longer going to be playing for once the season ends.

2008-08-12 18:19:51
61.   MollyKnight
^Totes a barn-burner in Boston.
2008-08-12 18:20:10
62.   sporky
34 49 58 I have a congenital disorder that cannot prevent me from pointing out that it's Owings, not Owens.
2008-08-12 18:20:42
63.   Tripon
The Red Sox-Rangers game is now 10-14 Red Sox in the 5th inning. Suffice to say that Zink might not be the answer for them.
2008-08-12 18:22:48
64.   bhsportsguy
51 Maybe, again, players that are put on waivers, clear waivers, claimed on waivers are not easily available for public information, its all run through the commissioner's office and each club has someone who watches it.

And right now, these are revocable waivers. Irrevocable waivers are done usually when you DFA a player.

2008-08-12 18:25:04
65.   bhsportsguy
62 I'll just say its Women's Gymnastic's final tonight and leave it for now.
2008-08-12 18:27:35
66.   sporky
65 Female gymnasts also have congenital disorders?
2008-08-12 18:28:18
67.   bhsportsguy
66 Just following up on a previous discussion.
2008-08-12 18:30:19
68.   sporky
I'm completely lost.
2008-08-12 18:32:45
69.   Alex41592
2-1 D'Backs Bot 2 in Coors.
2008-08-12 18:33:24
70.   Tripon
Manny didn't cut his hair. He did braid his hair like a medieval duchess.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/515GT7035XL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

Seriously, he braided his hair. This is the worst possible outcome on the whole hairgate. Or the best possible outcome. Either one.

2008-08-12 18:35:06
71.   Bob Timmermann
The extra point is up and through in Boston and in the top of the sixth, the Rangers and Red Sox are tied at 14-14.
2008-08-12 18:35:53
72.   hernari
Wow Texas tied it, 14-14... and still threatening to score again
2008-08-12 18:36:35
73.   paranoidandroid
I remember back when I was a Cubs fan that they traded a pitcher (Dickie Nolls?)to Detroit for a player to be named later and that player ended up being the same pitcher. I don't think you can do that any longer.
2008-08-12 18:37:04
74.   bhsportsguy
71 I think Boston should have traded for Marlon Byrd.
2008-08-12 18:37:55
75.   bhsportsguy
73 Yes, that is why you have that cannot be in the same league at that the time of the trade clause.
2008-08-12 18:37:56
76.   paranoidandroid
Jon: I like the line-up box idea.
2008-08-12 18:38:21
77.   Suffering Bruin
Baseball's version of a layup drill is happening at Fenway. Maybe I should say it's a slam-dunk contest.

Okay, I'm packing... seriously, I'm packing.

2008-08-12 18:38:28
78.   thinkblue88
Santana, Johnson, Hamels, Odalis, Kazmir and Kershaw on the hill tonight.

Let's see which southpaw comes out on top tonight

2008-08-12 18:39:32
79.   Bob Timmermann
After a penalty on the PAT, the Rangers decided to go for two instead and now they lead 15-14.

Ron Washington decided to throw caution to the wind and go for the jugular. He didn't need any stinking chart to tell him when to go for two.

2008-08-12 18:40:04
80.   Alex41592
Adam Dunn's defense strikes 2-2 tie in Coors.
2008-08-12 18:40:52
81.   sporky
God bless Adam Dunn.
2008-08-12 18:42:16
82.   Tripon
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3532279

Manny article from the AP.

2008-08-12 18:44:09
83.   Bob Timmermann
Scott Feldman of Texas gave up 12 runs in 2 2/3 innings.

He will get a no decision.

No pitcher in B-R's Play Index has ever hit that total and gotten a no decision as a starter.

Zach Greinke in 2005 and Jaime Navarro in 1997 gave up 11 runs in a game and got a no decision.

2008-08-12 18:44:28
84.   Tripon
Adam Dunn is already paying dividends for the Dodgers.
2008-08-12 18:45:29
85.   scareduck
36 - Hey, folks! I'm moving to Hermosa Beach!

I'm sorry. I used to live in USC Frat Boy Central, too, once upon a time. That lasted about three months..

2008-08-12 18:48:53
86.   Tripon
JACOBY ELLSBURY WAS SCRATCHED FROM THE STARTING LINEUP WITH A BRUISED TAILBONE

This made me laugh for some reason.

2008-08-12 18:52:31
87.   Bob Timmermann
86
You wouldn't laugh if you had one. At least it's not broken. That's one of the bones in your body that medical science can't do too much to heal.
2008-08-12 18:54:42
88.   D4P
Dunn takes 6 straight pitches and draws a walk.
2008-08-12 18:56:31
89.   Bob Timmermann
33 hits in the game at Fenway and yet no cycle alerts.
2008-08-12 18:56:44
90.   Marty
When I worked in Torrance one of my favorite cafes was in Hermosa Beach.

SB, check out Ocean Diner on Aviation.

2008-08-12 19:01:55
91.   larry slimfast
i had a broken coccyx once. had to sit on an inflatable donut for a month.
2008-08-12 19:05:46
92.   Bob Timmermann
91
Well, it's not like they can put it in a cast.
2008-08-12 19:06:06
93.   Marty
I'm giving my thumbs up to Generation Kill.
2008-08-12 19:07:59
94.   D4P
It seems like every swim this year results in a world record. Kinda weird.
2008-08-12 19:09:40
95.   larry slimfast
92 wish i could have had a cast for my ego. i was in high school. it was... character building. at least i broke it during a win for our tennis team.
2008-08-12 19:10:17
96.   Bob Timmermann
94
That subject was on the front page of the New York Times today.
2008-08-12 19:11:13
97.   larry slimfast
nomar even looks brittle. i wish he would wear some baggier clothes.
2008-08-12 19:11:14
98.   Tripon
http://www.mlbnewsonline.com/2008/08/giants-give-fred-lewis-chance-to-show.html

I care not for the rumors, but this post is about how Fred Lewis of the SF Giants is a five tool player who can hit .300. Really, is that what Fred Lewis projects to? A poor version of Matt Kemp? Or just Matt Kemp?

2008-08-12 19:12:04
99.   Dodgers49
51 Can we assume that Ned doesn't have the stones to put Andruw and/or Pierre on irrevocable waivers, ie pick him up and he and the contract are yours?

But even if Ned put Jones and/or Pierre on irrevocable waivers who in the world would claim them? Nobody wants those contracts.

2008-08-12 19:12:50
100.   larry slimfast
is it 96 about those new fangled swim suits?
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2008-08-12 19:14:20
101.   ucladodger
48

Ummmmm...no. Lewis is already 27. He isnt in the same league as Matt Kemp right now considering the positions that they play.

2008-08-12 19:14:56
102.   Marty
Utley is good at baseball.
2008-08-12 19:15:01
103.   D4P
96
Ah, so.
2008-08-12 19:16:24
104.   ucladodger
101

Comment obviously for post 98.

And Chase Utley is a superhero.

2008-08-12 19:19:27
105.   Bob Timmermann
100
The "people in the know" attribute the records to:
1) the suits
2) the depth of the pool, which is apparently the deepest ever used in the Olympics
3) companies offering up lots of $$$$ for swimmers to go faster

There was an explanation why swimmers can compete in multiple events more easily than in track. Michael Phelps can compete in eight events and be world class in all of them.

But in track, a decathlete will likely not be able to compete with a specialist in any of the 10 events except in rare instances.

2008-08-12 19:20:44
106.   Tripon
Dear Pierre,

Try to be a leadoff hitter and work the count before weakly grounding to first.

2008-08-12 19:21:11
107.   Eric Stephen
I haven't yet reached my saturation point with the AM/PM commercial with Nat Faxon, despite a few dozen viewings at least.

"Do you have my bank account number?" makes me laugh each time.

2008-08-12 19:21:45
108.   Michael D
Matt Kemp is good at baseball.
2008-08-12 19:21:57
110.   thinkblue88
Alright Bison, nice hit and great baserunning.
2008-08-12 19:21:57
111.   Eric Stephen
Double and an error in my official scorebook.
2008-08-12 19:21:58
112.   ucladodger
Bison Amazingess! Way to turn on that pitch, Matty.
2008-08-12 19:22:02
113.   FirstMohican
Burrell channeling Manny.
2008-08-12 19:22:12
114.   Tripon
And Matt Kemp shows he's the best player ever.
2008-08-12 19:22:16
115.   larry slimfast
ray liotta with the bobble
2008-08-12 19:22:21
116.   jasonungar07
106 2nd. He never grounds out to first. It's always 2nd. Or shallow LF.
2008-08-12 19:22:27
117.   Alex41592
We need a professional at bat here.
2008-08-12 19:23:08
118.   Bob Hendley
As Vin says, he seems to get better everyday.
2008-08-12 19:24:46
119.   MonkeyBlue
Not a vet like at bat for Kent.
2008-08-12 19:24:57
120.   Icaros
Kent chasing garbage.
2008-08-12 19:25:16
121.   Alex41592
Ground ball to second is all we needed. Pulling off is not good. It's up to Casey.
2008-08-12 19:25:34
122.   Tripon
Oh come on Charlie Manuel. We want to see Manny hit.
2008-08-12 19:26:41
123.   Bob Timmermann
Don't forget that Hamels strikes out a lot of guys. It's not like Kent was batting against Scott Erickson.
2008-08-12 19:26:52
124.   Icaros
Too bad we have an automatic out batting first. I mistakenly thought for a second that Kemp's double-turned-triple gave us two shots at a sac fly.
2008-08-12 19:26:55
125.   Jon Weisman
Ortiz hasn't hit a three-run homer in hours.
2008-08-12 19:27:39
126.   Alex41592
Great job Casey.
2008-08-12 19:27:40
127.   MonkeyBlue
Nice hit Casey! very clutch.
2008-08-12 19:28:01
128.   Tripon
CASEY AT THE BAT.
2008-08-12 19:28:05
129.   Jon Weisman
I can't believe Blake made good contact with that pitch. Pretty far down and in, wasn't it?
2008-08-12 19:28:06
130.   FirstMohican
TPAB - Thoroughly Professional At-Bat.
2008-08-12 19:28:47
131.   whodat807
Ah, Casey Blake. I like you more every day.
2008-08-12 19:28:54
132.   Icaros
If Kent doesn't bat third or fourth, what happens? Will he die or something?
2008-08-12 19:29:44
133.   underdog
He made an out but it's still great to have Nomar back up there rather than Berroa.

Enjoy him while he lasts, kids!

Good hit, too, by Casey B.

2008-08-12 19:30:30
134.   whodat807
He may have made an out, but how nice it is to see Nomar at that spot instead of Berroa? I hope it lasts, this time.
2008-08-12 19:30:47
135.   underdog
132 - No, it's in Kent's contract with God that he die by falling off his motorcycle, Kneivel style.

If he hits after 5th though he gets grumpier.

2008-08-12 19:31:15
136.   StolenMonkey86
132 - He'd probably just sit in a corner and frown while he reads motocross magazines.
2008-08-12 19:31:23
137.   Tripon
Yikes Kershaw, please keep it to the ground. These flyballs from notorious Homerun hitters are very scary.
2008-08-12 19:31:23
138.   whodat807
133 134 It's eerie how close the wording of those two posts are to each other.
2008-08-12 19:31:57
139.   larry slimfast
ahh, leave the old man alone. he's hot, russell's not. it'll change.
2008-08-12 19:32:32
140.   Tripon
Lineicum's hurt.
2008-08-12 19:32:39
141.   Bob Timmermann
Werth versus Kershaw is the battle of Dodger Thoughts Hopes That Never Came True and Dodger Thoughts Hopes That People Home Come True.
2008-08-12 19:32:40
142.   whodat807
132 That said, he looks like a different hitter when he's batting in front of Manny. Martin wasn't making the most of it, anyways.
2008-08-12 19:32:42
143.   Icaros
It's hard to find a player who makes Nomar look like a youthful upgrade at short, but Berroa is that guy.
2008-08-12 19:33:35
144.   Icaros
142

Looks no different to me.

2008-08-12 19:34:13
145.   Bob Hendley
132 - Torre is trying to lull the opposition into a stupor between Kemp and Manny.
2008-08-12 19:35:02
146.   Bob Timmermann
Players on Bob's fantasy team this week who have gotten hurt:
1) Carlos Lee
2) Evan Longora
3) Tim Lincecum

O God! Why hast thou forsaken me?

2008-08-12 19:35:34
147.   whodat807
144 You don't see the difference between sucking and hitting .500?
2008-08-12 19:35:58
148.   Icaros
146

What team is Longora with?

2008-08-12 19:36:49
149.   Tripon
Something tells me Kershaw isn't going to go deep in this game.
2008-08-12 19:36:58
150.   whodat807
146 That Evan Longoria injury was very sad. I hope the Rays can hold on without Crawford and Longoria - I really don't want another year of the BoSox and the Yankees making the playoffs.
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2008-08-12 19:37:11
151.   Icaros
147

Maybe not, but I do see the difference between adequate and ridiculously small sample sizes.

2008-08-12 19:37:28
152.   Alex41592
Now that is just pure bad luck.
2008-08-12 19:37:36
153.   Tripon
Wow, that was unlucky.
2008-08-12 19:37:36
154.   Eric Stephen
The way that ball moved, I thought Broxton was pitching.
2008-08-12 19:37:50
155.   overkill94
Weak sauce
2008-08-12 19:38:03
156.   fordprefect
Oh man, :\
2008-08-12 19:39:23
157.   whodat807
151 Well obviously, but can we wait for Kent to return to his former awful self before griping about it? Seems silly to start complaining when he's 9 for his last 19.
2008-08-12 19:39:35
158.   Tripon
Considering the run scored because of the luckiest play ever. We should be happy that Kershaw was able to get out with only giving up a run that inning.
2008-08-12 19:40:14
159.   Bob Hendley
Seemed lucky to me that it didn't go down the line. Blake wasn't going to get it.
2008-08-12 19:42:27
160.   natepurcell
So what happened to Lincecum?
2008-08-12 19:42:45
161.   Icaros
157

He's been lousy all year, and people have been calling for him to move down all year. Now he has a couple decent games in a row and suddenly he should be forgiven?

2008-08-12 19:43:23
162.   Tripon
160 Line drive hit his leg, and was pulled. No idea how bad it really is.
2008-08-12 19:45:23
163.   whodat807
161 Forgiven? Did he key your car in addition to being bad?

I'm saying we should 'forgive' him as long as he's hitting. If he goes cold, move him down! But until then, why not enjoy this without the usual cavalcade of griping, the way you would a stretch of breezy 80 degree days in the dead of August?

2008-08-12 19:45:51
164.   Bob Timmermann
Dodger Thoughts: Where the quality of mercy is always strained.
2008-08-12 19:46:44
165.   whodat807
Kershaw's got an interesting batting stance. Do you see many pitchers with a stance that open?
2008-08-12 19:46:55
166.   larry slimfast
161 i don't think jeff kent decides where he hits in the lineup. what has he done about that would need to be forgiven?
2008-08-12 19:47:22
167.   Alex41592
16-16 at Fenway.

4-2 AZ at Coors.

2008-08-12 19:48:26
168.   Icaros
Well, since the most recent action rules the day, he should be moved down mid-game for striking out in the first.

And not be forgiven.

2008-08-12 19:49:21
169.   Alex41592
19-16 Red Sox. Wow.
2008-08-12 19:50:15
170.   Tripon
Manny's hair has become magically unbraided.
2008-08-12 19:50:18
171.   larry slimfast
125 neither has youk... oops.
2008-08-12 19:50:45
172.   Eric Stephen
I thought that would be a triple for sure.
2008-08-12 19:51:48
173.   Tripon
Seeing Pierre throw gives anyone a chuckle.
2008-08-12 19:52:01
174.   Alex41592
172 - Done.
2008-08-12 19:52:47
175.   Suffering Bruin
146 I just traded for Lincecum.

Brad Ausmus needs to die a slow, painful death and I'm very, very close to some rules violations...

I must say, the energy I've got from Pierre leading off and Lincecum getting hurt has really put some energy into my packing. More bad news, please...

2008-08-12 19:53:16
176.   larry slimfast
171 oops again. his other homer was just a 2 run shot.
2008-08-12 19:53:45
177.   Blue in Beantown
What happened with Hamel's RBI that was so "unlucky"? All I have out here is the boxscore to go by.
2008-08-12 19:54:04
178.   underdog
Oh well. Everyone in the world knew he was gonna steal 3rd on Clayton except Clayton. Live and learn kid, live and learn.
2008-08-12 19:54:18
179.   Gagne55
"Brad Ausmus needs to die a slow, painful death "

Woah now. What did Ausmus do?

2008-08-12 19:55:04
180.   Tripon
Kershaw might not survive this inning.
2008-08-12 19:55:35
181.   underdog
That inside pitch is just not gonna get called a strike, CK.
2008-08-12 19:57:06
182.   Tripon
Of course I'm just a negative ninny, and Kershaw survives just giving a run again.
2008-08-12 19:57:26
183.   Gagne55
And the steal comes back to hurt.
2008-08-12 19:57:30
184.   Alex41592
179 - Per Rotoworld:

Tim Lincecum left his Tuesday night start after taking a line drive off his right knee.

Lincecum tried to avoid the liner off the bat of Brad Ausmus, but it hit him in the side of the knee and he fell to the ground. He limped off the field before being replaced by Keiichi Yabu.

2008-08-12 19:57:37
185.   underdog
Yikes. That was almost from bad to disaster. Whew.
2008-08-12 19:57:54
186.   Gagne55
Phillies building a picket fence...
2008-08-12 19:58:06
187.   D4P
It's not really much of a "sacrifice" when it not only doesn't hurt your personal stats, but actually helps them.
2008-08-12 20:00:04
188.   Gagne55
I don't see why Ausmus deserves to die for hitting Lincecum. It's not like he even hit him on purpose; it happens sometimes. Brian Hunter fractured Kaz Ishii's skull with a linedrive. It's a danger of playing baseball.
2008-08-12 20:00:05
189.   Jon Weisman
177 - His grounder kicked off the third base bag, to quote Ron Cey, and bounced forward.
2008-08-12 20:01:34
190.   Gagne55
Texas mounting a rally in the ninth...
2008-08-12 20:02:00
191.   Jon Weisman
Brandon Boggs doubles in a run for Texas off Paplebon. Tying run at the plate.
2008-08-12 20:03:32
192.   Tripon
Jeff Kent strikes out again. Time to move Loney to bat 3rd.
2008-08-12 20:03:58
193.   Alex41592
Hamels is locating that pitch right where he wants it. Tough.
2008-08-12 20:05:22
194.   dianagramr
someone alert Timmermann that we just had another instance of a team losing despite getting 20 hits.

Boston 19, Texas 17 .... Rangers outhit Sox 20-17.

2008-08-12 20:06:21
195.   Jon Weisman
Vin and the Coen Brothers ...
2008-08-12 20:06:44
196.   Eric Stephen
Rollins is 30 for 31 in SB attempts this year. That's Beltranian in its accuracy.

Actually, Rollins is an excellent 82.5% career in SB. Beltran is 87.8% career (91% the last 6 years).

2008-08-12 20:07:44
197.   Tripon
Adam LaRoche went 1-4 with a RBI, and 2 K's for the Pirates today.
2008-08-12 20:08:47
198.   larry slimfast
your mom uses bisquick
2008-08-12 20:09:26
199.   Jon Weisman
197 - Do we care about Adam? Or do you mean Andy?
2008-08-12 20:09:42
200.   Tripon
Andy, not Adam.
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2008-08-12 20:10:07
201.   xaphor
188 You've never lived on the mean streets of Hermosa Beach. You let another man punk your fantasy team and you'll never get respect. SB is a quick learner, he'll do well.
2008-08-12 20:10:13
202.   Eric Stephen
The Phillies as a team are excellent at stealing bases. This season they have stolen 94 (4th in the NL), at an 84.7% clip.

Last season they were an otherworldly 87.9%, combined with having the 2nd most SB in the league.

2008-08-12 20:11:13
203.   larry slimfast
198 now that was a ridiculous mistake. multitask moment... sorry about that.
2008-08-12 20:12:23
204.   Gagne55
Big Unit is going to pick up win 294 tonight unless the D'backs bullpen fails or the Rockies go crazy at Coors.
2008-08-12 20:13:19
205.   Gagne55
198 Actually, my mom does use Bisquick.
2008-08-12 20:13:20
206.   Eric Stephen
203
That was either a misplaced IM/email, or one of the greatest insults ever. :)
2008-08-12 20:14:36
207.   Tripon
Hamels is a good pitcher.
2008-08-12 20:15:08
208.   underdog
Aw c'mon Nomar! Berroasnipes could've done that!
2008-08-12 20:16:06
209.   Icaros
The best multi-task error ever on DT was when Nate linked to the wikipedia entry for bukkake.
2008-08-12 20:17:27
210.   underdog
209 LOL. Sorry I missed that. Or not.

Or how about when underdog cut and pasted a whole blog chat a comment window? Well, I guess that was more on topic. It was just really idiotic.

2008-08-12 20:18:34
211.   underdog
Siddown!

That is a little inconsistent, Kershaw wasn't getting that inside fastball called earlier. But he's definitely settled down.

Too bad Hamels is even more settled down.

2008-08-12 20:18:54
212.   D4P
Multi-task errors are scary.
2008-08-12 20:19:39
213.   Tripon
Wow, that Utley strike out was SICK.
2008-08-12 20:19:56
214.   Jon Weisman
Two on, one out for Colorado, bottom of the seventh, down by 2.
2008-08-12 20:19:57
215.   StolenMonkey86
175 Let's not get too crazy here. After all, Lincecum is still a Giant. Brian Sabean hasn't traded him for Jay Payton yet.
2008-08-12 20:20:18
216.   ucladodger
Pretty damn impressive 2 innings for Kershaw.
2008-08-12 20:20:46
217.   whodat807
Wow. KKKKKershaw.
2008-08-12 20:21:03
218.   underdog
I wish we were facing Veronica Hamels instead.
2008-08-12 20:21:43
219.   68elcamino427
Mr. Strikeout - dropp'in in the curveball.
2008-08-12 20:22:02
220.   underdog
214 And then Taveras, who is even worse a leadoff man than Pierre, leaves them stranded.
2008-08-12 20:22:41
221.   larry slimfast
206 it's actually a good story but this is dodger thoughts, not larry thoughts. although sometimes it gets the latter.
2008-08-12 20:23:03
222.   Alex41592
Both pitchers are just ridiculous right now.
2008-08-12 20:23:21
223.   ucladodger
Is this Russell's worst stretch as a Dodger? He's been through slumps, but i dont remember him ever looking this bad.
2008-08-12 20:24:35
224.   das411
202 , that started right when Former Dodger Davey Lopes came over...with Former Dodger Shane Victorino playing a big part in it too.

In other news, Michael Phelps just did to the rest of these swimmers what the 2001 Mariners did to the AL that year...

2008-08-12 20:24:40
225.   Gagne55
218 Who?
2008-08-12 20:25:30
226.   Gagne55
224 Lost the championship series?
2008-08-12 20:25:41
227.   Tripon
224 Lose to the Yankees in the ALCS?
2008-08-12 20:25:59
228.   Icaros
I'm working on a container of shrimp chow mein that is becoming like the sandwich Homer wouldn't throw away. Dinner for the third night in a row, and I may still not finish it all.
2008-08-12 20:26:48
229.   StolenMonkey86
224 - Are you suggesting Michael Phelps will be terrible in 7 years?
2008-08-12 20:27:15
230.   68elcamino427
223
Martin looks like he's really tired. Give him a real day off - no third base.
Why did I think that Torre would take better care of him?
2008-08-12 20:28:39
231.   underdog
225 Sorry, Veronica Hamel, I meant. From Hill St. Blues. Might be before your time. ;-)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0357557/

Anyway, the Dodgers need to find a way to get Cole out of there, work the pitch count or something, or they have no shot.

2008-08-12 20:28:53
232.   bhsportsguy
230 Players do go through slumps.
2008-08-12 20:29:00
233.   D4P
228
Is it from that same Chinese place we ordered from...?
2008-08-12 20:29:35
234.   Eric Stephen
I move that we treat Olympic results like TV shows. NO SPOILERS. Some of us are only vaguely interested in parts of the Olympics but like to watch without knowing the results in advance.
2008-08-12 20:29:39
235.   larry slimfast
pull him now
2008-08-12 20:29:53
236.   Alex41592
Took three at bats but Burrell finally got the opposite field hit down.
2008-08-12 20:30:46
237.   Eric Stephen
Wait, Icaros knows the elusive D4P?
2008-08-12 20:31:01
238.   Icaros
233

No, different place. I've moved on.

2008-08-12 20:31:25
239.   underdog
228 - Careful, we don't wanna have to come get you at the hospital.

Would you like to be alone with that chow mein for a minute?

2008-08-12 20:31:28
240.   Icaros
237

I even know his real name.

2008-08-12 20:31:44
241.   Alex41592
Filthy.
2008-08-12 20:32:02
242.   Jon Weisman
That was a pretty good version of PE#1.
2008-08-12 20:32:27
243.   Jon Weisman
234 - Seconded and affirmed.
2008-08-12 20:32:51
244.   Alex41592
Another one. Kershaw is locked in.
2008-08-12 20:32:52
245.   Icaros
239

Wow...the colors. When did the Dodgers start playing against a team of wood fairies?

2008-08-12 20:34:41
246.   Alex41592
100 pitches. Great job.
2008-08-12 20:35:02
247.   Jon Weisman
State of the Kershaw: A quality start raises his season ERA.
2008-08-12 20:35:19
248.   RamMan
LOL...on Kershaw's last K Vin remarked "he dropped a deuce on that one"
2008-08-12 20:35:19
250.   Eric Stephen
Props to Kershaw for gutting through 6 innings. 4 straight starts of 6 IP (or more).
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2008-08-12 20:36:09
251.   StolenMonkey86
quality start for Mr Kershaw
2008-08-12 20:36:43
252.   bhsportsguy
I avoided turning on my computer last night until after the Men Gymnastics was final.
2008-08-12 20:36:46
253.   KG16
235 - why? other than the mythical 100 pitch mark? Kershaw has been pitching very well tonight, no? Why pull him if he can go another inning or two?

These are not rhetorical questions, I'm really interested in why there is so much concern (not just with Kershaw, but with pitchers in general) throwing more than 100 pitches in a game.

2008-08-12 20:37:31
254.   Bob Hendley
OK. Let's get the Kid some runs.
2008-08-12 20:37:34
255.   Tripon
And Pierre earns another start due to a bunt.
2008-08-12 20:37:37
256.   bhsportsguy
That was one his better bunts.
2008-08-12 20:37:42
257.   Alex41592
There we go. Nice job to get on.
2008-08-12 20:38:52
258.   StolenMonkey86
253

Exhibit A:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/gl.cgi?n1=priorma01&year=2003&t=p

2008-08-12 20:39:10
259.   underdog
Actually, I believe this applies to your dinner as well.

Homer: Your old meat made me sick!
Apu: I am sorry sir. Please accept 5 pounds of frozen shrimp.
Homer: That's not frozen. And it smells funny.
Apu: 10 pounds!
Homer: Woohoo!
(ambulance noises)

(Sorry, Jon. I thought my Veronica Hamel reference should make up for an extra Simpsons reference.)

2008-08-12 20:39:24
260.   bhsportsguy
253 It's a mystery like the Rules of Evidence.
2008-08-12 20:39:42
261.   Tripon
253 You pull him because 6 innings of good work, and he's at 100 pitches. No reason to stretch the guy's arm out. He's only 20. Besides, Joe Beimel should pitch on his own bobble head day.
2008-08-12 20:40:52
262.   Icaros
Icaros Update:

The chow mein has been finished. It was purchased from a restaurant named, simply, Ho's.

2008-08-12 20:40:54
263.   underdog
No spoilers but I will say the synchronized diving final is quite engaging tonight. My g/f's watching it right now.
2008-08-12 20:41:14
264.   Tripon
Kemp has a honest at bat.
2008-08-12 20:41:22
265.   Alex41592
Kemp was sitting on that.
2008-08-12 20:41:25
266.   ucladodger
He's good. He's really good.
2008-08-12 20:41:33
267.   D4P
263
Have you seen the chunky Canadian...?
2008-08-12 20:41:39
268.   larry slimfast
the last 2 balls had been hit pretty hard. he was near hit pitch count. it seemed like a smart move. he got out of it fine. i would have pulled him... and so it goes.
2008-08-12 20:41:45
269.   Jon Weisman
259 - It does.
2008-08-12 20:41:46
270.   MonkeyBlue
Finally got something going. Dodgers better not blow this opportunity.
2008-08-12 20:41:46
271.   Tripon
A plate of Chow Fun is usually better than Chow Mien.
2008-08-12 20:41:50
272.   das411
226 , 227 , 229 , behold (after you press play):

http://www.baseballrace.com/races/MLB-2001-AL-Normal.asp

and I am still catching up on DT but re: seating at Citizens Bank Park, the 300 level is the top of the stadium from right field to around behind first base (301-310), and you can see the game and some pretty spectacular sunsets very well from up there.

The 400s are a little higher up behind home plate (412-434) and the 300s are in front of them, the lower portion of the upper level there, and views are still mighty fine from either. Of course, if it's your first time at CBP, make sure you take advantage of the excellent standing platforms all along the main concourse on the lower level and your seat section might not even matter...hope this helps!

2008-08-12 20:42:00
273.   underdog
Well done, Bison! Too bad that wasn't a hit and run (in hindsight).
2008-08-12 20:42:08
274.   KG16
261 - no reason to stretch the guy's arm out? How about helping him build the stamina to get beyond the sixth inning?

260 - I know the rules of evidence. except the dead man statutes, those always confuse me.

2008-08-12 20:42:13
275.   bhsportsguy
I will say this, I am surprised they threw Kemp a fast ball out there but its hard to quantify that into being annoyed with JP on first.
2008-08-12 20:42:19
276.   Alex41592
Double steal could be coming.
2008-08-12 20:42:54
277.   Eric Stephen
262
I was going to go there, but I stopped at my brother's house first.

You know, bros before Ho's.

2008-08-12 20:42:59
278.   larry slimfast
268 for 253
2008-08-12 20:43:06
279.   bhsportsguy
274 I always like statements against his interest exception.
2008-08-12 20:43:42
280.   StolenMonkey86
Really, I think the critical mark is at about 110 pitches, rather than just 100, but you don't want to have to pull a pitcher mid-inning for a pitch count.

The idea is that after a certain number, your arm is more tired, and more suceptible to injury, or damage that can lead to injury.

TThe general rule is never over 120, and kick the manager at 130. Koufax and Drysdale had games where they threw 150 pitches, but neither was in baseball for an age 33 season. Not really a coincidence.

2008-08-12 20:43:59
281.   underdog
267 Is that a new Ben & Jerry's flavor?

(Yes, I have.)

2008-08-12 20:44:10
282.   KG16
276 - 2-1 pitch is the spot to do it.
2008-08-12 20:44:10
283.   Tripon
274 Lets not wreck Kershaw's arm like we did with Romon Martinez, Fernado Venezuela, and Orel Hershier.
2008-08-12 20:45:01
284.   MonkeyBlue
Dang Kent smoked that ball! and got a out! tough break.
2008-08-12 20:45:07
285.   bhsportsguy
Hamels thought Kent hit it out.
2008-08-12 20:45:09
286.   Eric Stephen
Better that they didn't tag. Now they have to pitch to Manny!

4-4.

2008-08-12 20:45:25
287.   Tripon
Kent makes an unproductive out. Partly because Pierre is a dum dum who didn't tag. Then again, now it looks like they have to pitch to Manny. Good show Pierre!
2008-08-12 20:45:38
288.   Alex41592
Bad bad baserunning. But, that's ridiculously obvious.
2008-08-12 20:45:44
289.   underdog
Darn that nightime LA air and Dodger Stadium!
2008-08-12 20:46:20
290.   Alex41592
Ok, no double steal here. :)
2008-08-12 20:46:24
291.   ucladodger
275

It was a changeup that Kemp hit.

I really thought Kent got that one. Terrible baserunning by Pierre. He has to be at third on that. Dont know what he was doing as he scores from anywhere if the ball drops.

2008-08-12 20:46:24
292.   Icaros
277

Are you happy that I'm not going to the picnic?

2008-08-12 20:47:00
293.   whodat807
Man, I thought that was gone. It really died on the track.
2008-08-12 20:47:21
294.   Eric Stephen
292
Not anymore! I was going to hit you up for top secret D4P information!
2008-08-12 20:47:40
295.   Tripon
Looks like some of the kids made makeshift dread caps.
2008-08-12 20:47:49
296.   MC Safety
Juan Pierre sucks.
2008-08-12 20:47:59
297.   68elcamino427
230
Yes and Martin is having a long slump now.
How about some real rest.
No Third base
No 7th inning entry.
Just a real day off before/after an off day.
Right now he's not seeing the ball at the plate and not as sharp behind the plate.
Just a slump?
2008-08-12 20:48:46
298.   Eric Stephen
286
By the way, my prediction of 4-4 was dumb to say the least. For one, the Phillies have 3 runs, not 4. Lets just move along now OK? Sorry for the jinx.
2008-08-12 20:49:42
299.   Jon Weisman
Manny has been uncanny.
2008-08-12 20:49:47
300.   thinkblue88
Man Ram!!!
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2008-08-12 20:49:49
301.   larry slimfast
that manny is a smart hitter
2008-08-12 20:49:51
302.   Icaros
294

I'm going to set up a website and Paypal account. $20 gets you his name. $40 gets you a police description of his appearance.

2008-08-12 20:49:53
303.   Alex41592
Just amazing plate discipline.
2008-08-12 20:49:54
304.   MonkeyBlue
Manny being Manny.
2008-08-12 20:50:09
305.   bhsportsguy
Even his bloops are line drives in the book.
2008-08-12 20:50:27
306.   Tripon
I'd like to see Martin take a whole series off, but that's unlikely. Martin's hand must still be bothering him though.

AND MANNY IS AWESOME. That pitch looked like it was outside the strike zone too. So good that Manny had to clap for himself.

2008-08-12 20:50:55
307.   KG16
283 - if Kershaw is going to be the strike out pitcher he is predicted to be, the pitch count is going to have to be higher than 100/game. Not necessarily this year, but at some point. Strike out pitchers require more pitches to get batters out.
2008-08-12 20:51:21
308.   Icaros
305

That's about as hard as Pierre can hit a ball.

2008-08-12 20:51:23
309.   Alex41592
Casey is sitting change.
2008-08-12 20:51:38
310.   Eric Stephen
302
Do we get the sketch drawing as well?
2008-08-12 20:52:32
311.   Eric Stephen
Tim Tschida to the rescue again!
2008-08-12 20:52:50
312.   Icaros
310

No, you have to do it yourself.

2008-08-12 20:53:36
313.   Alex41592
Nomar up in a big situation.
2008-08-12 20:53:41
314.   MonkeyBlue
Productive out for Casey.
2008-08-12 20:54:00
315.   Tripon
Do they dare to disrespect Russell Martin? This is the same Russell Martin they IBB twice last night.
2008-08-12 20:54:44
316.   Jon Weisman
307 - Yes, it will get higher as his career progresses.
2008-08-12 20:55:01
317.   Eric Stephen
312
I'll end up looking for this guy:

http://tinyurl.com/2gnk3j

2008-08-12 20:55:08
318.   MonkeyBlue
Martin we need you! we need you!
2008-08-12 20:55:08
319.   underdog
I didn't realize until Vin just said it that LA had never faced Hamels before.
2008-08-12 20:55:09
320.   Alex41592
All right Russ. Time to break out.
2008-08-12 20:55:10
321.   Tripon
They're disrespecting Russell Martin!
2008-08-12 20:56:32
322.   Icaros
317

A little more hair than that.

2008-08-12 20:56:37
323.   Jon Weisman
Oh, Russell was robbed!
2008-08-12 20:56:37
324.   Alex41592
Nothing you can do about that. Just a great play.
2008-08-12 20:56:41
325.   Tripon
Oh, that sucked.
2008-08-12 20:56:46
326.   underdog
That was a horrible strike call.
2008-08-12 20:56:54
327.   Lexinthedena
What a play.......damn.
2008-08-12 20:56:57
328.   Eric Stephen
I get the feeling Chase Utley doesn't want the team that originally drafted him to win.
2008-08-12 20:57:20
329.   underdog
Ah MAN. Poor Martin. Great hit and he wuz robbed.
2008-08-12 20:57:21
330.   MonkeyBlue
Damn you chase!
2008-08-12 20:58:05
331.   bhsportsguy
The Dodgers smoked two balls in that inning for outs.
2008-08-12 20:58:37
332.   Icaros
330

Big credit card bill, huh?

2008-08-12 21:00:12
333.   MonkeyBlue
332. Yep, too many stops at Fry's.
2008-08-12 21:00:46
334.   Tripon
The Phillies might be a better fielding team than the Dodgers.
2008-08-12 21:02:40
335.   Tripon
Is Beimel a sure bet to leave in the offseason? I can see Ned give the guy a 3 year/ 9 million contract.
2008-08-12 21:03:28
336.   Alex41592
Hamels is at 99 pitches. But, he'll be facing Loney, Ethier and Pierre in the 7th. Pierre will probably come out after that.
2008-08-12 21:05:12
337.   Tripon
And Biemel lowers his ERA.
2008-08-12 21:05:32
338.   bhsportsguy
The bobblehead comes through.
2008-08-12 21:05:57
339.   Alex41592
Snakes win.
2008-08-12 21:05:59
340.   MonkeyBlue
335. No way. Anyways nice inning for Joe. Very effective with nobody on base.
2008-08-12 21:07:31
341.   Gagne55
Beimel earning his bobbleheads!
2008-08-12 21:08:31
342.   Eric Stephen
335
He might get more than that. The two relief signings that came to mind were Chad Bradford (3/$10.5) and Jamie Walker (3/$12).
2008-08-12 21:10:45
343.   Gagne55
Come on Ethier make em pay for leaving in Hammels
2008-08-12 21:10:58
344.   Bob Timmermann
342
Jamie Walker has his own dedicated section of fans at Camden Yards. He pays for the tickets to get kids to sit there, but he's the only Oriole who does such a thing.

Very odd.

2008-08-12 21:11:38
345.   StolenMonkey86
342 - they signed Danys Baez to a 3 year deal too
2008-08-12 21:12:21
346.   Gagne55
:(
2008-08-12 21:12:44
347.   Eric Stephen
340
Very effective with nobody on base

Beimel, bases empty: .321/.367/.357

Beimel with runners on: .264/.372/.292

2008-08-12 21:12:56
348.   StolenMonkey86
Pierre did make the last out...
2008-08-12 21:13:42
349.   sporky
McDonald had another great start.

6IP 4H 2ER 10K 1BB

2008-08-12 21:14:46
350.   Eric Stephen
Kuo gets to save his own win!
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2008-08-12 21:14:46
351.   bigcpa
Pierre out on the double switch!
2008-08-12 21:15:24
352.   Bob Hendley
342 - Wasn't that the O's in both cases. Didn't work out too well as I recall.
2008-08-12 21:16:27
353.   MonkeyBlue
347. Well when I watch him pitch with runners on he not that good, but I don't have the stats to back that up.
2008-08-12 21:16:50
354.   Alex41592
336 , 351 - How about that?
2008-08-12 21:18:29
355.   bhsportsguy
353 Well there is the issue of sample size.

If you had only seen Ted Williams in the 1946 World Series.

2008-08-12 21:18:40
356.   thinkblue88
Kuo is just great.
2008-08-12 21:18:56
357.   StolenMonkey86
352 - no, turns out middle relievers aren't something you want to spend a lot of money on
2008-08-12 21:18:58
358.   Alex41592
Wow.
2008-08-12 21:19:50
359.   thinkblue88
I honestly wanted to see Kuo as a starter, but hey, this works too!
2008-08-12 21:20:50
360.   Icaros
Oh sure, Kuo can wipe out the heart of the order in the 8th inning. That's easy.
2008-08-12 21:21:25
361.   bigcpa
At the game... Pierre was visibly ticked when they pulled him after the last out. Torre waved at him from the dugout and Pierre waved his arm in disgust. Hopefully Simers is taking copious notes.
2008-08-12 21:22:29
362.   Alex41592
See 358
2008-08-12 21:22:35
363.   Icaros
Matt Kemp has such a bad attitude.
2008-08-12 21:22:58
364.   bhsportsguy
Maybe Kemp is now relaxed that the trade deadline is over and he knows he is not going anywhere.
2008-08-12 21:23:07
365.   underdog
Bison is aflame.
2008-08-12 21:23:40
366.   whodat807
Kemp is so good.
2008-08-12 21:24:38
367.   Alex41592
What is Kemp's OPS after the All-Star Break this season up to the minute? It was .947 heading into tonight.
2008-08-12 21:25:44
368.   Greg Brock
Pitchout...Now go!
2008-08-12 21:25:58
369.   Alex41592
I think hit and run here.
2008-08-12 21:26:03
370.   Greg Brock
Bah.
2008-08-12 21:26:25
371.   Alex41592
MANNY TIME! On your feet Dodger Stadium.
2008-08-12 21:26:26
372.   bhsportsguy
Nice at-bat for Kent.
2008-08-12 21:26:39
373.   MonkeyBlue
Nice at bat for the old man.
2008-08-12 21:26:48
374.   whodat807
If catchers are going to wear hockey goalie style face masks, they should have pictures airbrushed onto them like goalies do too. That'd be awesome.
2008-08-12 21:26:57
375.   bhsportsguy
Hey GB, maybe Manny will bunt this time.
2008-08-12 21:27:02
376.   StolenMonkey86
Nice, walk from a 1-2.
2008-08-12 21:27:05
377.   Icaros
I don't like the Ozuna-Kent sub anymore.
2008-08-12 21:28:45
379.   KG16
No warning?
2008-08-12 21:28:46
380.   Greg Brock
Take your base, Manny. Calm down.
2008-08-12 21:28:48
381.   Bob Hendley
377 - At least Kent doesn't pout about it.
2008-08-12 21:28:52
382.   bhsportsguy
Take one for the team.
2008-08-12 21:29:09
383.   nick
whoa!
2008-08-12 21:29:31
384.   bhsportsguy
I don't think he wanted to hit Manny.
2008-08-12 21:29:36
385.   Alex41592
Manny scared me with that look.
2008-08-12 21:30:00
386.   whodat807
Manny does not look happy about that.
2008-08-12 21:30:21
387.   Jon Weisman
Manny racing toward 100 career HBP. He is at 95, 60th all-time.

http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/Q76p

2008-08-12 21:31:15
388.   Jon Weisman
378 - not allowed, Alex41592
2008-08-12 21:31:24
389.   larry slimfast
what is that multicolored thing in manny's mouth?

Tie game!

2008-08-12 21:31:25
390.   KG16
I'll take it.
2008-08-12 21:31:26
391.   MonkeyBlue
Nice at bat for Casey.
2008-08-12 21:31:26
392.   Gagne55
386 Well he doesn't get to have an RBI because of that.
2008-08-12 21:31:49
393.   bhsportsguy
Productive out and Kershaw is taken off the hook.
2008-08-12 21:31:49
394.   Alex41592
Casey produces. This lineup is stacked.
2008-08-12 21:32:21
395.   Gagne55
Let's go Nomar!
2008-08-12 21:32:23
396.   Icaros
For some reason, even though he looks like a famous science-fiction monster, I can't picture Manny as much of a fighter.
2008-08-12 21:32:46
397.   MonkeyBlue
Damn!
2008-08-12 21:32:51
398.   whodat807
Nicely done, Casey.
2008-08-12 21:32:54
399.   Alex41592
388 - Won't happen again.
2008-08-12 21:33:13
400.   bhsportsguy
You still have Martin, Loney and Ethier coming up in the 9th.
Show/Hide Comments 401-450
2008-08-12 21:33:25
401.   StolenMonkey86
Kershaw's off the hook. Now to get a W for Kuo.
2008-08-12 21:33:45
402.   Gagne55
395 nvr mnd
2008-08-12 21:34:06
403.   Greg Brock
Nice hacks on sliders away. Ugh.
2008-08-12 21:34:19
404.   KG16
400 - and if anyone gets on, Kuo
2008-08-12 21:34:27
405.   underdog
Bah, Nomar! Berroa could've done that! (Sorry, I'll stop now.)

Oh well, 1 is better than zero. A tie is better than losing. Underdog is master of the obvious.

2008-08-12 21:34:29
406.   Jon Weisman
Could McDonald get a callup?

http://tinyurl.com/62wkqg

2008-08-12 21:35:28
407.   Bob Timmermann
If the 150:1s wish to rally, they will have to it against the greatest pitcher ever:

Brad Ziegler.

2008-08-12 21:35:29
408.   Gagne55
Well, the good news is that since the Dodgers are forced to win this in walkoff fashion, no closer is needed.
2008-08-12 21:36:13
409.   natepurcell
The best multi-task error ever on DT was when Nate linked to the wikipedia entry for bukkake.

.......my bad.

2008-08-12 21:36:29
410.   bhsportsguy
Wilt Chamberlain might have been the most dominant beach volleyball player of all time.
2008-08-12 21:37:06
411.   Icaros
409

It was worth it.

2008-08-12 21:37:16
412.   Bob Hendley
405] - I am looking forward to the penalty kicks.
2008-08-12 21:37:16
413.   KG16
407 - with numbers like that, it's a wonder he didn't make the show until he was 28
2008-08-12 21:37:30
414.   Gagne55
Oh nos!
2008-08-12 21:37:36
415.   Greg Brock
Leadoff walks make baby Jesus cry.
2008-08-12 21:39:13
416.   underdog
These ninth inning-decider games are going to be the death of me. (Assuming it doesn't extend beyond 9. Either way, it's the death of me.)
2008-08-12 21:39:19
417.   Alex41592
To put it nicely, the man on deck Geoff Jenkins is not very good against lefties.
2008-08-12 21:39:58
418.   Gagne55
Kuo is getting wild
2008-08-12 21:40:08
419.   Bob Timmermann
If the game goes 11, both teams have agreed to use Olympic tiebreaking procedures!
2008-08-12 21:41:20
420.   Icaros
That was a really tough dig.
2008-08-12 21:41:42
421.   underdog
Great play by Loney! Whew.
2008-08-12 21:41:56
422.   Greg Brock
That is an amazing pick by Loney.
2008-08-12 21:41:58
423.   68elcamino427
Kuo the Closer.
2008-08-12 21:42:01
424.   Icaros
419

Why not just make 10 the tiebreaker?

2008-08-12 21:42:05
425.   Bob Timmermann
38 straight scoreless innings for Brad Ziegler.

Oakland 2, 150:1s 1

2008-08-12 21:42:08
426.   bhsportsguy
First clean 9th inning in a few games.
2008-08-12 21:42:17
427.   Gagne55
420 By Nomar?
2008-08-12 21:42:30
428.   Bob Hendley
Weird Game bails Nomar.
2008-08-12 21:42:46
429.   larry slimfast
409 your mom... wait... nevermind
2008-08-12 21:42:54
430.   Gagne55
Nvr mind, Loney with the dig.
2008-08-12 21:43:06
431.   bhsportsguy
425 What's the record?
2008-08-12 21:43:20
432.   Icaros
427

Um...Loney?

2008-08-12 21:43:29
433.   underdog
419 This game doesn't go to 11.

But I'd be perfectly happy with it decided in a climatic pommel horse routine.

2008-08-12 21:43:53
434.   68elcamino427
420
421
422

#7 James Loney - Good on defense?

2008-08-12 21:44:22
435.   StolenMonkey86
That was lucky, Jenkins hit it right to the a in Ramirez.
2008-08-12 21:44:25
436.   Alex41592
Lefties are batting .078 against Romero this season.
2008-08-12 21:45:02
437.   bhsportsguy
Chaddy being Manny.
2008-08-12 21:45:28
438.   Icaros
Good start.
2008-08-12 21:45:32
439.   68elcamino427
Let's go Martin - Time to win!
2008-08-12 21:45:39
440.   bhsportsguy
Cleon Jones take your base.
2008-08-12 21:46:02
441.   StolenMonkey86
Russell being Manny.
2008-08-12 21:46:19
442.   Alex41592
415 - What does a lead off HBP do to baby Jesus?
2008-08-12 21:46:53
443.   Bob Hendley
(penalty) kick by Martin?
2008-08-12 21:46:57
444.   Bob Timmermann
431
The longest scoreless inning streak in major league history will not be on the trivia quiz Saturday.
2008-08-12 21:47:17
445.   bhsportsguy
442 He was talking about the top of the 9th.
2008-08-12 21:48:09
446.   Gagne55
444 Orel Hershiser?
2008-08-12 21:48:28
447.   Alex41592
I would suggest bunting here, but they would walk Ethier and it would be up to Sweeney.
2008-08-12 21:49:14
448.   StolenMonkey86
Romero wants Ryan Howard behind the plate.
2008-08-12 21:49:26
449.   Gagne55
J.C. Romerero is having a really good season. I remember him being atrocious for the Angels.
2008-08-12 21:49:28
450.   Greg Brock
442 I assume taking it for the team fires baby Jesus up. It should.
Show/Hide Comments 451-500
2008-08-12 21:49:54
451.   Icaros
Why do these guys slide into first?
2008-08-12 21:50:26
452.   bhsportsguy
That was the ball finding the glove.
2008-08-12 21:50:34
453.   underdog
Well, er, that works as a sacrifice.
2008-08-12 21:50:34
454.   KG16
451 - the superman dive would probably be better
2008-08-12 21:50:42
455.   Gagne55
Just as good as a bunt
2008-08-12 21:51:05
456.   Tripon
It'll be cool if we had Delweyn Young at this point.
2008-08-12 21:51:23
457.   Icaros
He also slid too soon and had practically stopped by the time he reached the bag.
2008-08-12 21:51:37
458.   StolenMonkey86
who's on deck? If Ethier doesn't do it here, I'd enjoy watching Kuo bat. Well, watching on gameday, anyway.
2008-08-12 21:51:39
459.   Alex41592
Philly pitching to Ethier.
2008-08-12 21:52:13
460.   Jon Weisman
C'mon, Andre. Be a hero. Just get that single, just like the Giants did.
2008-08-12 21:53:10
461.   Jon Weisman
Angels now up by 15 games in the AL West.
2008-08-12 21:53:48
462.   Tripon
I would assume there's a pitch hitter for Kuo, and we'll see Wade or Trancoso.

And Andre Ethier is the king of long at bats.

2008-08-12 21:54:12
463.   Icaros
Andre just battles up there.
2008-08-12 21:54:34
464.   Tripon
HOLY! YES!
2008-08-12 21:54:34
465.   Alex41592
SAFE! YES! ANDRE IS THE HERO!
2008-08-12 21:54:36
466.   thinkblue88
YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

ANDRE
ADNRE
ANDRE!!!

2008-08-12 21:54:42
467.   KG16
nice finish boys.
2008-08-12 21:54:51
468.   MonkeyBlue
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
2008-08-12 21:54:52
469.   68elcamino427
Ethier! Great Job!
2008-08-12 21:55:02
470.   Gagne55
463 Gamecast is stuck on Ethier with a 1-1 count
2008-08-12 21:55:02
471.   Icaros
To the bench with you, #9!
2008-08-12 21:55:04
472.   Jon Weisman
YES. HERO.
2008-08-12 21:55:11
473.   StolenMonkey86
Kuo's the best hitter available right now.
2008-08-12 21:55:17
474.   silverwidow
That is YOUR starting RF. YES!!!!!!!!!
2008-08-12 21:55:17
475.   Greg Brock
Ethier is the man. Best at-bats, every time.

The anti-Nomar.

2008-08-12 21:55:31
476.   underdog
460 Your wish is his command. :-)

Did you script this one for them?

Huzzah!

2008-08-12 21:55:37
477.   Gagne55
I'm guessing Ethier singled in Martin
2008-08-12 21:56:32
478.   StolenMonkey86
gameday showed an out on pitch 3 for some reason, now it's showing that's not the case.

Nice to see 3.5 use the 5.5. Blue team wins.

2008-08-12 21:56:32
479.   whodat807
WALK OFF! Nice to see us celebrating at the plate instead of the opposition.
2008-08-12 21:56:42
480.   Bob Timmermann
Now I can pay full attention to Olympic baseball!

Taiwan leads the Netherlands 5-0.
Canada up on China 4-0.

China's caps have a CHN logo.

2008-08-12 21:57:10
481.   underdog
That was such a great at bat, too. Romero is tough and he was just fighting him off, sometimes just barely. Then he went the other way, just enough. Just perfect.
2008-08-12 21:57:16
482.   MollyKnight
Great end to an otherwise terrible day for me.

God bless, Ethier. We win.

2008-08-12 21:57:42
483.   Bob Timmermann
5-0 Canada.

Steve Ontiveros is trying to calm down the Chinese relief pitcher.
He needs a lot of that. And he needs to learn to throw the ball over the plate.

2008-08-12 21:57:52
484.   Icaros
475

It's hard to believe his OBP is only .340ish. You'd think he'd get on more with that approach.

2008-08-12 21:58:04
485.   bhsportsguy
460 You called it and now I can watch the Olympics.
2008-08-12 21:58:12
486.   Xeifrank
For those of us stuck online, what the heck happened? Care to say??
vr, Xei
2008-08-12 21:58:12
487.   underdog
478 - That was probably the one he fouled at the plate and he went to first base, so it looked like an out at first.
2008-08-12 21:59:04
488.   Wen
Nice win.

Kuo's country had also just won its first game in Beijing. The two games ended at nearly exactly the same time.

2008-08-12 21:59:05
489.   sporky
3.5 no more!!!
2008-08-12 21:59:14
490.   underdog
Xei, and co., Ethier fought off a bunch of pitches with Martin at 2nd, and then hit a flare over short for a single. The throw home was a good one but just a second or so too late to get Martin sliding in under the catcher.
2008-08-12 21:59:25
491.   Alex41592
Ethier with the game winning hit off a pitcher who has now only given up SEVEN hits all season to lefties.
2008-08-12 21:59:31
492.   bhsportsguy
482 I am glad this helped but I hope tomorrow is better for you.
2008-08-12 22:00:20
493.   Xeifrank
490. Thanks.
vr, Xei
2008-08-12 22:00:39
494.   Jon Weisman
New game-winning post up top.
2008-08-12 22:00:56
495.   bhsportsguy
490 No hesitation by Martin on that hit, he took off and was rounding third before Taguchi could get to the ball.
2008-08-12 22:01:41
496.   StolenMonkey86
484 - he's had a real low BABIP against lefties this year
2008-08-12 22:02:38
497.   MonkeyBlue
I'm worried about Penny tomorrow.
2008-08-12 22:04:58
498.   underdog
495 - Indeed!

497 - Save the worry for tomorrow. Enjoy tonight!

2008-08-12 22:05:35
499.   Bob Hendley
Rivera could hold a three run lead for Mussina and he doesn't get his 16th tonight. Dang. (note: Moose fan, not Yanks fan)

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