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It's In the Hole
2008-08-07 14:08
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

Clayton Kershaw's past three starts:

19 innings
72 batters faced (3.78 batters per inning)
283 pitches (14.8 pitches per inning)
180 strikes (64 percent)
103 balls
27 groundouts (one double play)
13 air outs (one double play)
15 strikeouts (7.11/9 IP)
6 walks (2.84/9 IP)
8 singles
2 doubles
1 triple
[11 hits (5.21/9 IP)]
1 run (0.47 ERA)
20 years old

* * *

Joe Torre's latest musings on batting order, per Ken Gurnick at MLB.com:

Torre said he and the coaching staff have considered Cardinals manager Tony La Russa's preference for batting his best slugger, Albert Pujols, third, the pitcher eighth and putting a speedster, in St. Louis' case former Dodgers shortstop Cesar Izturis, ninth. That way, Pujols bats in the first inning and in subsequent at-bats he is preceded by three position hitters.

"We're flirting with a number of things, even moving Manny (Ramirez) to third," said Torre. "The nine-hole hitter gives you three guys to get on. We would have [Juan] Pierre batting ninth. We haven't gone there yet."

Ramirez hit his fourth home run today and is 13 for 23 with four homers, one double and two walks as a Dodger (1.746 OPS).

Comments (139)
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2008-08-07 14:19:27
1.   Eric Stephen
Torre to Pierre: "Well, the world needs ditch diggers, too."
2008-08-07 14:19:41
2.   underdog
I think the air out double play was my favorite play. ;-)

It's pretty unbelievable he's 20 years old. He's going to have some more downs along with all the ups this season, but just imagine him next season. Along with Bills.

2008-08-07 14:21:47
3.   regfairfield
Marlon Anderson holds the Dodger record for least amount of plate appearances to hit five home runs with 36. Matt Kemp is second with 42.
2008-08-07 14:21:56
4.   schoffle
Ok, I will admit that back in May I believed that Kershaw should not have been brought up. I thought that his stuff was not major league ready and that the Dodger's rushing him to the club would hurt his development. I was wrong
2008-08-07 14:26:47
5.   68elcamino427
Kershaw )-( Pierre

Eager anticipation )-( Anxiety

2008-08-07 14:27:02
6.   himynameisyoo
kershaw and manny are amazing.
also...if pierre must play, i would much rather have him bat ninth then lead off.
2008-08-07 14:27:52
7.   himynameisyoo
kent batting in front of manny is not a bad idea.
2008-08-07 14:28:28
8.   regfairfield
Manny is now 9th on the Dodgers in home runs.
2008-08-07 14:29:19
9.   Harold M Johnson
Pierre batting 9th is actually a great idea...

it's just unfortunate that he's not a middle IF, because he's wasted as a OF playing a power position and with Ethier on the bench.

2008-08-07 14:29:20
10.   himynameisyoo
has manny even hit a HR less than 400ft?
2008-08-07 14:30:04
11.   Kevin P
I'm so frickin happy for Clayton. I was in a lunch meeting today and sneaking glances at the bar's TV with every opportunity. I missed Manny's HR at-bat but figured as much when I glanced over, knew he was coming up and suddenly we had 3 runs. So awesome!!
3 So basically Manny will have Marlon beat by 12 AB. :)
2008-08-07 14:30:15
12.   underdog
The Rays made a nice pick-up in Chad Bradford.
2008-08-07 14:30:32
13.   DaDoughboy
1.
Or possibly:

"In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher'."

2008-08-07 14:30:59
14.   Ken Noe
This was the Kershaw game I've hoped for this year. The kid is growing into something so special before our eyes.

I can't wait for Simers to ask JP how he feels about batting ninth. I'm guessing he will view it as more "sticking it" to him. If he gets through waivers, JP might well be willing to permit a trade to someplace he'll be treasured.

2008-08-07 14:31:50
15.   DaDoughboy
Torre to Kershaw: "how bout a fresca?"
2008-08-07 14:34:21
16.   Eric Stephen
13
But I already used that line on Manny's HR! :)
2008-08-07 14:35:14
17.   Kevin P
Manny upon lift off of home run #4: "Oh, he got all of that one! He's gotta be pleased with that, the crowd is just on its feet here, uh - He's the Cinderella boy, tears in his eyes, I guess."
2008-08-07 14:50:05
18.   DaDoughboy
16.
Dang it.
2008-08-07 14:51:48
19.   JoeyP
Brian Giles was claimed by the Red Sox & they have 48 hours to work out a deal.

Padres wouldnt want Coco Crisp would they?

2008-08-07 14:54:15
20.   regfairfield
19 That actually makes a lot of sense for them.
2008-08-07 14:55:15
21.   Paul Scott
Maybe after this series, Joe can just ask LaRussa what he thinks is best. Maybe Tony will take pity on him.
2008-08-07 14:59:07
22.   The Dude Abides
Lohse after giving up Manny's big fly:
"Rat farts!!!"
2008-08-07 15:00:08
23.   underdog
Padres can still pull him back off waivers, right?

I would think the Sox would definitely want to trade Coco; the question is would/why would the Padres want him?

2008-08-07 15:03:58
24.   regfairfield
23 The Padres build around defense and pitchers that throw strikes. They need to rebuild the defense part.
2008-08-07 15:07:50
25.   DaDoughboy
Mattingly to Andruw:
"A flute without holes, is not a flute. A donut without a hole, is a Danish."
2008-08-07 15:10:06
26.   himynameisyoo
25
Batter without a bat, is Andruw?
2008-08-07 15:11:38
27.   LogikReader
Loney after today's game and the tough series, to reporters:

"I Have a poem...

It's easy to grin
When your ship comes in
And you've got the stock market beat.
But the man worthwhile,
Is the man who can smile,
When his shorts are too tight in the seat. "

Everybody else looks at him trying to figure out what he's talking about.

2008-08-07 15:12:40
28.   himynameisyoo
i wish i could go the the series against sf. but, i'm going to LA when the dodgers will be going to SF. how unfortunate.
2008-08-07 15:16:53
29.   Eric Stephen
It sounded like the Red Sox only claimed Giles to keep him from getting to Tampa Bay.

http://tinyurl.com/6ms7pe

2008-08-07 15:17:58
30.   underdog
29 That's kind of what we suspected earlier. Don't know why Red Sox fans were assuming they were getting Giles fersure.
2008-08-07 15:24:10
31.   Tripon
The Red Sox wouldn't seem the most likely team interested in Giles, since they already have an outfield loaded with stars J.D. Drew, Jason Bay and Jacoby Ellsbury as well as Coco Crisp. They may just be protecting themselves against Giles landing with one of their division rivals and/or teams they may face in the postseason.

...J.D. Drew, Jason Bay, and Jacoby Ellsbury are stars? Are you kidding me?

2008-08-07 15:24:45
32.   bigcpa
You could see a Bay/Drew/Giles OF if they decide to bench Ellsbury. Or maybe flip Giles and Bay.
2008-08-07 15:26:15
33.   D4P
...since they already have an outfield loaded with stars J.D. Drew and Jason Bay, as well as Jacoby Ellsbury and Coco Crisp.

Much better.

2008-08-07 15:26:34
34.   Eric Stephen
Some more Giles waiver claim info here, but its still mostly speculation. Giles's salary and option year (2009) raise from $9m to $11m if traded, meaning roughly an extra $600k for Giles this season.

http://tinyurl.com/5q65df

2008-08-07 15:27:31
35.   D4P
Question: if Boston's rivals were interested in Giles, why didn't said rivals claim him first? Is there some kind of order in which teams can claim? I seem to remember that there is, but can't remember what it is...
2008-08-07 15:29:25
36.   xaphor
Current record I believe.

"After Giles had cleared National League waivers, the only other two AL teams after Boston with a shot at claiming him were the AL East-leading Tampa Bay Rays and the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim."

2008-08-07 15:29:30
37.   Eric Stephen
Joe Bick, the agent for Giles, is also the agent for Eric Stults.
2008-08-07 15:29:59
38.   Eric Stephen
35
Multiple teams can claim, but the priority is given to worse record.
2008-08-07 15:30:47
39.   Eric Stephen
36
I forgot the weird "current league first, then the other league" style.
2008-08-07 15:32:44
40.   Harold M Johnson
How about this for a lineup tomorrow night (cobbled together based on Torre's comments):

Kemp
Martin
Kent
Ramirez
Loney
Blake
Berroa
P
Pierre

2008-08-07 15:33:22
41.   regfairfield
40 I'm against anything that results in Berroa getting more at bats.
2008-08-07 15:34:11
42.   Tripon
35 Teams with the worst record gets first pick. The teams most interested in Giles were the Rays and the Angels, and they both have better records than the Red Sox.

Although this does bring up an interesting situation, the Angels might be looking for for an OF next year considering they don't think Gary Matthews Jr. is the answer and Juan Rivera is a FA. They're stocked at First base in the minors with Kendry Morales in Triple A, so they'd feel good about letting Texiera walk away but they still need to find power somewhere... and could it be Manny? He'd fit better for the Angels at DH/LF, a shorter deal for the Angels, and they get the added benefit of sticking it to the Dodgers.

2008-08-07 15:36:20
43.   Tripon
40 How about this lineup? :)

Kent
Loney
Kemp
Ramirez
Blake
Hu
Martin
Pitcher
Pierre

2008-08-07 15:36:37
44.   ibleedbloo
40 Penny should be hitting 7th.
2008-08-07 15:38:00
45.   Harold M Johnson
I was more trying to guess what Torre's going to do rather then make up a dream line up.
2008-08-07 15:39:22
46.   Eric Stephen
43
I know Martin is struggling, but below Hu? And Kent leading off?
2008-08-07 15:39:47
47.   bhsportsguy
42 I think they have to think about extending Vlad ($15M+), signing K-Rod, figuring out if they are going to sign Teixeira ($18-20M/year), what to do about Garland, etc. before trying to add another outfielder.
2008-08-07 15:41:05
48.   Eric Stephen
47
Not to mention the possibility of extending Lackey a year before he would hit the FA market.
2008-08-07 15:41:47
49.   Tripon
46 Its a joke lineup. The idea of Kent leading me off will both amuse me greatly and then make me mad as heck. And I expect Martin to bat at least sixth when he's back in the lineup tomorrow. And I'm that high on Hu because he is not Berroa.
2008-08-07 15:42:10
50.   ryu
I thought the idea is to let Manny bat 3rd.
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2008-08-07 15:44:09
51.   DaDoughboy
47.
I don't think they are going to overpay for K-Rod,...which means they won't pay for K-Rod.
2008-08-07 15:45:04
52.   cargill06
40 Zito on the hill tomorrow, you can pencil in Druw Jones.
2008-08-07 15:45:20
53.   Eric Stephen
I forgot to mention, I was talking with my uncle last weekend. He's a lifelong Dodger fan, and he said he "wasn't sold" on Martin or Kershaw.

I quickly changed the subject.

2008-08-07 15:45:45
54.   Fallout
42 Tripon
could it be Manny? He'd fit better for the Angels at DH/LF, a shorter deal for the Angels,...
Manny could never be an Angel.
2008-08-07 15:46:23
55.   himynameisyoo
53
how can you not be?
2008-08-07 15:46:43
56.   xaphor
53 I'd hate to be the vacuum salesman knocking on his door.
2008-08-07 15:47:11
57.   himynameisyoo
42 if manny became an Angel, i'd cry
2008-08-07 15:49:12
58.   xaphor
57 So would McCourt.
2008-08-07 15:51:18
59.   dodgaBLU
would calling McDonald up in September (or before) be a good idea?

-Manny being Manny

2008-08-07 15:53:09
60.   Eric Stephen
59
I wouldn't mind that, but I'd like to see him get more regular work for a couple more weeks. He'd pitch sparingly out of the big league bullpen, so a few more starts in Vegas wouldn't be the worst thing.
2008-08-07 15:53:16
61.   trainwreck
I still expect the Mets to throw a boat load of cash at Manny.
2008-08-07 15:53:40
62.   Jon Weisman
Batting Ethier anywhere is better than batting Pierre ninth.
2008-08-07 15:56:24
63.   Tripon
47 The Angels are going to field an outfield of Torii Hunter in center, Vlad in RF, and Gary Matthews Jr. in Left field. Unless there's a hotshot OF prospect that is near major league ready the Angels already have, I'm sure they would be looking for a LF in the off season because they sure don't trust Gary Matthews Jr. and they basically get to see Manny mash the ball for the next two months.

Also, J.A. Andande thinks Andruw Jones should be playing in center and can hit over .200.

2008-08-07 15:59:45
64.   regfairfield
They have Willits too.
2008-08-07 16:03:43
65.   Tripon
64 He looks like a career backup.
2008-08-07 16:04:25
66.   UVaDodger
OT, but did anyone else think this paragraph in Dylan Hernandez's article was a little bizarre and out of place?

"Uncertainty about where he will be next season -- or next month, for that matter -- is something that Johnson said makes him reluctant to get married at this stage in his life."

2008-08-07 16:11:19
67.   Fallout
58 xaphor
If Scott Boras has any sense, and we know that he has a scent for money, he would pit the Dodgers against the Angels for Manny.
2008-08-07 16:16:44
68.   dzzrtRatt
The Dodgers are so resigning Manny. Unless he gets badly hurt or does something offensive, and especially if he does something memorable, I think he's staying, and at his price/years. While his age makes him a risk, he's not going to drop off, Jones-like, all at once.

Plus by keeping Manny and making it clear to Pierre he's a part-time player, maybe the newly "sullen" Pierre will demand a trade.

But that's the subtle reason. The real reason is that McCourt knows he'll make a profit on Manny, at least for the first couple of years. Pure and simple.

2008-08-07 16:19:30
69.   dzzrtRatt
66 Obviously, Hernandez proposed, and instead of saying yes, Johnson told him he had to think about it. Hernandez must have been shocked, because he thought he knew what direction the relationship was going in. So this is payback.
2008-08-07 16:22:22
70.   UVaDodger
69 That was my guess. Glad to see I had gotten the right idea. I figured the lack of any mention of a significant other in the entire article meant it had to be the writer.
2008-08-07 16:22:54
71.   Eric Stephen
69
I can see Hernandez's next JJJ-related game story: "Well, apparently Johnson was as afraid to throw his slider as he is of commitment."
2008-08-07 16:25:02
72.   Eric Stephen
How did Jason Michael Johnson come to be known here as JJJ?
2008-08-07 16:28:14
73.   Jon Weisman
69/71 - LOL

72 - Journeyman Jason Johnson

2008-08-07 16:29:19
74.   dzzrtRatt
71 I'm busting a gut laughing. The Chinese ladies sitting across from me at Starbucks must think I'm high.
2008-08-07 16:30:46
75.   Eric Stephen
73
Journeyman Jason Johnson

Thanks. I think I was on vacation during his callup and just sort of accepted those initials without question. I need to be more skeptical!

2008-08-07 16:32:38
76.   SG6
63 - Juan Rivera to DH?
2008-08-07 16:37:52
77.   Tripon
76 He's a FA.
2008-08-07 16:45:05
78.   CodyS
Manny "loves LA and just wants some peace." Now sometimes, when a ballplayer says something like that, you're now sure how you can give him peace. But in this case, Manny has made it easy to understand. 4 years/$100Million will give him peace.
2008-08-07 16:48:57
79.   Johnson
Hey, quick question - I'm going to be in L.A. in two weeks and will be able to attend one of the Colorado games. I'm trying to plan it based on who will be pitching for the Blue. Looks like Kershaw is out - he'll be on Sunday the 17th against Milwaukee. The question is whether we're likely to skip a rotation slot on the off-day on the 18th, because it will push Billingsley to either the 20th or the 21st, depending.

My guess is that with Penny back we've got a full-strength staff of five and we won't skip over anybody on the off-day (= Bills on the 21st).

Anybody believe otherwise?

2008-08-07 16:52:26
80.   SG6
77 - Ah, thanks.
2008-08-07 16:57:08
81.   scareduck
63 - my contribution to Sean Forman, and enlightened discussion of the 2008 Dodgers:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/j/jonesan01.shtml

2008-08-07 17:04:04
82.   bhsportsguy
79 My hunch is since the Dodgers will probably want to give all the starters that extra day since they don't have another off day for 16 games after that.

So you will see Penny, Kuroda and Billingsley.

I am still trying to see how they can avoid pitching Lowe in Colorado but right now it would take a lot of movement to do that.

2008-08-07 17:08:39
83.   xaphor
I like the Flanders, Jones, Netherlands synergy. Perhaps Andruw is the busted dike condeming Flanders to an eternal deep sea abyss.
2008-08-07 17:10:18
84.   Howard Fox
53 personally, I am sold on Kershaw, but I too am not sold on Martin...

I cannot quantify it, but my instincts tell me to sell high on him...

2008-08-07 17:12:37
85.   Zzyzx
1 DT regarding Pierre: "Good boy, nice boy... now I know why tigers eat their young!"
2008-08-07 17:18:59
86.   jujibee
I am going to the game on Saturday at (insert telephone company name) Park. Anyone know who is projected to throw? I'd like to see Bills, but I think he's the Sunday game. I have no idea who throws for the Gnats, but Lincecum is due, yes? Having Penny come back might be the push we need for the playoffs, but he might throw off the rotation schedule a little bit and it's harder to project.
2008-08-07 17:19:36
87.   natepurcell
84

and who replaces him?

2008-08-07 17:23:26
88.   silverwidow
Billingsley vs. Cain on Sunday!

Is this their first head-to-head showdown?

2008-08-07 17:23:35
89.   underdog
86 It's Kuroda vs. Correia (say that 3 times fast), on Saturday. Bills and Cain slated for Sunday.

I'll be there on Friday. Good luck!

2008-08-07 17:25:32
90.   Johnson
86 Penny's going tomorrow so it will be Kuroda on Saturday at the Phone Co.

82 Thanks. Tickets for Thursday it is!

2008-08-07 17:25:47
91.   scareduck
63 - Unless there's a hotshot OF prospect that is near major league ready the Angels already have

The Angels picked up Terry Evans as a throw-in on the trade that sent Jeff Weaver to St. Louis. Evans was a journeyman outfielder of no importance who started unaccountably raking in high-A Palm Beach after years of sub-.400 slugging averages and tepid, sub-.310 OBPs. AA Springfield agreed with him so much that he assembled an impressive .311/.373/.649 with seven home runs in only 45 at-bats. He continued to hit once traded to Los Angeles de Anaheim, posting a .309/.385/.553 line at AA Arkansas and a career-best average .316/.352/.512 in his first full season at AAA Salt Lake (120 G, 475 AB). His eye remains suspect, as the differential between his average and OBP attests, and he's come down to earth a bit in his 2008 season at Salt Lake, carrying a .308/.390/.452 through only 26 games; he was disabled May 21 with a right shoulder injury.

Evans does appear to have made some sort of legitimate breakthrough, but it is unclear how valuable he will be after he returns from his injury, or what he could do even if he hadn't been injured. He only yesterday made his first rehab appearance with the AZL Angels. So it's altogether possible he might be an option if it comes to that, but the likelihood of the Angels outright dumping Gary Matthews, Jr. is pretty slim, at least as long as he has a no-trade clause. Quite frankly, the Angels would be better off with Evans offensively; Jeff Sackmann's MLE calculator tags him as a .257/.293/.403 hitter in the Show. Of course, that presupposes the Angels let Juan Rivera walk without an attempt to long-term him, and Rivera is an even better bet to produce those kinds of numbers or better.

2008-08-07 17:25:51
92.   Tripon
Lucas May should get a chance to win the backup catcher spot next year.

If May wants the starter spot, he should fight Martin in a MMA fight, and the Dodgers can air it on FSN Prime.

2008-08-07 17:27:02
93.   Howard Fox
87 that I cannot tell you, but I suspect what we have seen so far from Martin will be about as good as it gets...just my gut feel, which, of course means nothing
2008-08-07 17:31:00
94.   bhsportsguy
86 I'll be short and sweet.

Zito vs. Penny (rematch of Opening Day)
Correia vs. Kuroda
Cain vs. Billingsley (2002 First Round Pick vs. 2003 First Round Pick)

2008-08-07 17:34:03
95.   regfairfield
92 May is hitting .239/.305/.423 with 97 strikeouts as a 23 year old in AA. Combine this with a really horrible defensive reputation and you have a guy that is very close to being a non prospect.
2008-08-07 17:35:02
96.   Howard Fox
95 then there is always this guy with a great name, Carlos Santana
2008-08-07 17:36:26
97.   Tripon
95 I thought he was in Las Vegas?
2008-08-07 17:37:05
98.   regfairfield
97 Nope.
2008-08-07 17:39:56
99.   bhsportsguy
88 No, they faced each other in San Francisco last July, Billingsley pitched 6 innings and won the game 9-1 (Dodgers scored 6 runs in the 9th inning).
2008-08-07 17:39:58
100.   Tripon
98 What happened, did he get push down due to Gary Bennett staying in Vegas?
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2008-08-07 17:42:21
101.   regfairfield
100 He's never played there.
2008-08-07 17:45:37
102.   Paul Scott
87 Simple. We trade Martin for Navarro. To make it worth the Ray's time, I am sure Ned could throw in Hu and McDonald.
2008-08-07 17:47:42
103.   natepurcell
96

I don't know if you are serious but he's with the Indians now.

2008-08-07 17:50:48
104.   underdog
99 - yep, and i was at that game! One of the few blowout games i've seen that the dodgers were on the winning side of.
2008-08-07 18:10:18
105.   Tripon
101 Oh, er. Forget what I said then.
2008-08-07 18:18:09
106.   twerp
It's widely accepted that Maddux has said he will only go to the Dodgers if he doesn't remain a Padre.

I think he lives near LA, which probably is partly behind what he supposedly has said.

But the Angels are technically LA also. Any chance of that? Would LAA have any interest in him?

2008-08-07 18:23:01
107.   scareduck
106 - the Angels already have a just-below-league-average starter named Jared Weaver (his fall from grace has been pretty marked, 97 ERA+). Maddux has a 94 ERA+ (3.90 ERA) in the pitcher-friendliest park in the majors in the weaker (National) league, and is averaging 5.8 innings per start. There's just about zero chance of them being interested.
2008-08-07 18:24:23
108.   scareduck
107 - s/Jared/Jered/
2008-08-07 18:24:56
109.   Greg Brock
Maddux won't pitch in the American League.
2008-08-07 19:04:34
110.   Gen3Blue
107 That is a faily good analysis, why am I afraid something like that would never occur to the Dodgers.
2008-08-07 19:45:54
111.   Joe Pierre
Kershaw was magnificent, especially staying away from Pujols, Ludwick & Glaus while going right after the rest.
I'm astounded by Ramirez, I feel like it's all a dream.
I always thought that wasn't a bad idea batting the pitcher 8th especially with Pierre in the lineup.
WE BEAT THE CARDINALS IN ST. LOUIS
IT'S GREAT ANYWHERE.
2008-08-07 19:58:51
112.   Bob Hendley
In Arlington, Mike Mussina, 7 innings, no runs, 6ks today for his 15th. 20 game winner this year, finally? Twenty wins would put him at 270.
2008-08-07 20:00:27
113.   LogikReader
Anybody watching the Dbacks game on MLB Extra Innings? Boy, this is some great fan support they have in AZ... what do you suppose the attendance is tonight?
2008-08-07 20:03:21
114.   Bob Hendley
Even better, they are behind Braves 0-2 in the 5th.
2008-08-07 20:04:50
115.   Daniel Zappala
108 I love seeing sed syntax on DT.
2008-08-07 20:07:01
116.   LogikReader
The Dbacks are getting a taste of Dodgeritis.. That is, struggling to hit against an unknown pitcher.
2008-08-07 20:10:49
117.   Daniel Zappala
Speaking of the Angels outfield, Bill Shaikin says the Angels are considering playing Figgins in LF next year, opening 3B for Brandon Wood. They ought to instead keep Figgins as a super sub.
2008-08-07 20:13:48
118.   Dodgers49
106 It's widely accepted that Maddux has said he will only go to the Dodgers if he doesn't remain a Padre.

Maddux lives in Las Vegas and what he actually is supposed to have said is that he would only accept a trade to a West Coast team. It's just that the Dodgers are the only West Coast team still in a pennant race that might be interested in him. The Angels don't appear to have any interest.

2008-08-07 20:29:43
119.   Scanman33
http://tinyurl.com/6k62me

From Jeff Kent:

"You look at Matt [Kemp], he's swinging the bat well after being an easy out at the beginning of the year.

OBP thru 4/30:
Kemp: .348
Kent: .318

OBP in May:
Kemp: .360
Kent: .247

So when was Matt an easy out Jeff? And if he was an easy out, what did that make you?

Oh, and this one:

"And Russell [Martin] is holding his own and done a good job. Everybody has gained some experience and that's what you hope will happen as you get close to the end of the season."

I think Martin has more than held his own and done more than a "good" job.

2008-08-07 20:30:50
120.   68elcamino427
84
If the best performance that we'll get from Martin is what we witnessed in this year's All-Star game,
then it might be wise to keep him around.
2008-08-07 20:32:06
121.   trainwreck
I hope the Bison sticks every trash can in the locker room in front of Jeff Kent's locker.
2008-08-07 20:32:34
122.   twerp
118 As I get it, what Maddux supposedly has said is that the Dodgers are the only team he would waive his no-trade clause for...?

Also, from Tidbits at dodgers.com--

"Former Giants left-handed pitcher Kirk Reuter was a guest of general manager Ned Colletti. "

Apparently they mean at today's game. Why is this newsworthy?

2008-08-07 20:38:03
123.   Dodgers49
Manny won't be a Dodger for long

>> But in any kind of a bidding war, the Dodgers will fold their cards and leave the game. That's what they do. <<

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/14400754/

2008-08-07 20:40:11
124.   Scanman33
123-Not with Pierre they didn't. The Giants were bidding against the Dodgers and Neddy went the extra year and dollars.
2008-08-07 20:40:39
125.   trainwreck
Emmit Smith is the worst analyst ever.

Mr. Smith, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone at home is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

2008-08-07 20:42:30
126.   ucladodger
119

Was just about to post that, Scan. Kent hasnt done much at all this year and he's calling out the guy who was the best player on the team for a good month Pre-Manny? That dude has some serious nerve.

2008-08-07 20:45:21
127.   Scanman33
126-The problem is that dude has the ear of Jaime McCourt and Neddy. He also has the unquestioned obedience of the local media (save for Simers).
2008-08-07 20:47:41
128.   68elcamino427
126
Seems a back-handed compliment is Kent being as nice as he can be.
Too bad for him.
2008-08-07 20:49:57
129.   MonkeyBlue
D-Backs are losing 5-0 WOOOO!
2008-08-07 20:52:37
130.   Dodgers49
Owners to discuss blackout solution

>> At the owners' meetings Wednesday, DuPuy said he will propose that if a team is not broadcasting in a geographic location for at least one season, it loses the right to black out games in that area. Gone would be the blackouts that prevent folks in Iowa and Las Vegas from seeing as many as six games each night and have caused viewing havoc throughout the country.

"I see no reason why there ought to be so many clubs able to black out in those territories," DuPuy said. <<

http://tinyurl.com/5v45fa

2008-08-07 20:54:32
131.   LogikReader
123

Why is it a crime to avoid overpaying a 36 year old baseball player for one too many years? If the Yankees or Mets want to overspend on Manny, have at it.

Basically, is it worth 25 mil a year to have a HOF hitter from age 36-40?

2008-08-07 21:05:54
132.   Dodgers49
122 Maddux doesn't want to leave West Coast

>> SAN DIEGO – As great a pitcher as Greg Maddux has been for 23 years, he might be a better poker player. But he finally tipped his hand in a meeting with San Diego Padres general manager Kevin Towers on Tuesday.

Maddux reiterated his desire to be traded only to a team on the West Coast. <<

http://tinyurl.com/6c873m

2008-08-07 21:10:32
133.   natepurcell
131

If he continues to hit like one then uhh....yeah?

2008-08-07 21:13:32
134.   Alex41592
6-4 ATL with 2 outs Bot 8. Reynolds hit a three run rally killer.
2008-08-07 21:13:57
135.   immouch
131
agree. particularly given that manny is thick (body-wise, people, stay with me)... maybe i'm naive, but if manny's really sans steroids i predict his decline could be swift. i kinda hope i'm wrong because he's a fun guy to watch, but...
2008-08-07 21:15:15
136.   Jon Weisman
New post up top.
2008-08-07 21:15:21
137.   Alex41592
6-4 Braves Top 9.
2008-08-07 21:18:41
138.   Greg Brock
I wouldn't put a ton of stock in anything Michael Ventre says. From our friends at FJM:

Michael Ventre is even worse than Celizic when it comes to being absurdly confident about his opinions without any real justification.

2008-08-07 21:19:22
139.   Greg Brock
136 {Shakes fist}

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