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Hang Time
2008-08-11 17:30
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

It's like the reverse of the "Who are these guys" scene in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid: a case not of relentless pursuers but relentful ones. The Dodgers buck their leads Saturday in the bottom of the 10th, Sunday in the bottom of the ninth - hanging offenses, you'd think – and still they're only 1 1/2 games out of first place in the National League West with seven weeks to go. Ask yourself how comfortable you'd feel with a 1 1/2-game lead with seven days to go, and you'll know how insignificant that deficit is.

Even so, staying sanguine hasn't been easy in the past 24 hours. Opportunity lost is one thing, but here come the NL East-leading Philadelphia Phillies to town for four games to make things rougher. Plus, this afternoon, Arizona picked up slugger Adam Dunn and his career .303 EQA in a low-cost waiver trade from Cincinnati, a deal the Dodgers could have blocked had they chosen to, raising questions over whether Ned Colletti and Frank McCourt were (pick your cliche) asleep at the wheel or handcuffed by previous boondoggles. The notion that it would have been a problem if the Dodgers had somehow ended up with Dunn doesn't ooze with merit.

Most of all, it just gets tiring to settle for solace in the failings of other NL West teams, rather than being able bulk up with pride or, more importantly, confidence in the remaining fate of your own. It's true that getting to the playoffs with 83 victories is more important than winning 93 and missing out, as will be the case in other divisions. If the first scenario happens, the Dodgers will apologize for their sins just as soon as George Mason or the 2006 Cardinals do. (Celebrating the 20th anniversary of the 1988 of Kirk Gibson and Orel Hershiser could have worse scripts than an underdog bid for a title.) It doesn't mean that the losses don't take a beating on you. Getting flogged each time you think you're about to break free is just a rough way to live.

But in a sluggish economy, you adjust expectations. The going rate for an NL West title is falling to around 85 victories, and at the core the Dodgers only trail the Diamondbacks, 60-58, in that pursuit. Los Angeles' two recent stirring wins in Arizona didn't guarantee success. The team's two shaky losses in San Francisco don't guarantee failure. If they keep giving 'em rope, the Dodgers should just keep taking it.

* * *

Phillies at Dodgers, 7:10 p.m.

Comments (448)
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2008-08-11 17:36:08
1.   Tripon
Prediction: Manny, Kent, and Russell Martin all homer, and Lowe's on his game. This game is a Dodgers laffer all the way.
2008-08-11 17:37:30
2.   Jacob L
Great post, Jon.

I feel well adjusted to the NL West race after watching this summer's golf major championships. Why hang your head over pars and bogeys when you just might end up with the trophy?

2008-08-11 17:38:18
3.   El Lay Dave
...asleep at the wheel or handcuffed by previous boondoggles.

Both?

2008-08-11 17:40:12
4.   bigcpa
Would be interesting to hear if Dunn was ticketed for an AL team and AZ was the one doing the blocking.
2008-08-11 17:41:54
5.   Dodgers49
Elusive stint in majors still motivates Lindsey

>> "Every night, I go home and I think, 'Man, I hope I did something that sparked their interest, will make them give me a shot,' " Lindsey said Sunday <<

## He is playing the best ball of his life at 31, too old to be considered a prospect, too young to give up the game for a second time. ##

http://www.lvrj.com/sports/26826059.html

2008-08-11 17:42:09
6.   Bumsrap
asleep at the wheel or handcuffed by previous boondoggles

I choose blindfolded and handcuffed waiting for the cigarette.

2008-08-11 17:44:22
7.   D4P
Would Dodger Management have had some particular reason to believe that the DBacks would be/were interested in Dunn...?
2008-08-11 17:44:54
8.   cargill06
James Jones says I don't need no helmet. Good outing so far for Aaron Rogers.
2008-08-11 17:44:56
9.   Joe Pierre
Man oh man it's rough.
We got Manny & they got Dunn.
No matter what happens I feel our team is constantly improving.
Gaining experience and making trades.
There is no place to go but up.
If not this year, next year.
We're getting close.
2008-08-11 17:47:04
10.   Tripon
http://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=8368

John Lindsey's having a good year at Triple A. I guess he can be a pitch hitter or something.

2008-08-11 17:47:04
11.   Bumsrap
It would have been interesting to hear what Pierre would have said if the Dodgers had traded for Dun.
2008-08-11 17:47:10
12.   GMac In The 909
0 It's obvious the Dodgers didn't block Dunn to Arizona for one of two reasons:

1) NedCo and Co. were asleep at the wheel.
or
2) McCourt took the checkbook away from NedCo.

Both scenarios should end with NedCo getting canned yesterday.

2008-08-11 17:51:33
13.   Bumsrap
Dodgers claiming Dunn with no interest in trading for him falls in the category of what goes around comes around, do on to others as you would have them do onto you, or more simply, bad karma.
2008-08-11 17:52:03
14.   El Lay Dave
7 Byrnes and Upton being injured.
2008-08-11 17:53:45
15.   El Lay Dave
13 I don't know what unwritten rules GMs have, but blocking your main playoff rival falls within the realm of "fair game", I believe.
2008-08-11 17:54:57
16.   Bumsrap
14 - Young not doing as hoped. Dodgers getting Manny. Losing their number 3 hitter.
2008-08-11 17:55:46
17.   Sam DC
The notion that it would have been a problem if the Dodgers had somehow ended up with Dunn doesn't ooze with merit.

Indeed. Just like not offering arbitration to Maddux, this seems just unreasonably risk averse, especially when the "bad outcome" is really just not that bad.

2008-08-11 17:56:53
18.   D4P
Michael Phelps eats a ridiculous amount of food.
2008-08-11 17:58:50
19.   fanerman
The Dbacks got Dunn? Shucks.
2008-08-11 17:58:59
20.   Bumsrap
15 - I might agree if the Dodgers wanted to trade Pierre or Jones for Dunn and they thought the Reds would even have mild interest of making that trade. Otherwise, keep attendance up everywhere--its good for the game.
2008-08-11 17:59:00
21.   El Lay Dave
I know it was posted in a last-thread comment, but for handy reference, per the P-E blog:

Kemp CF
Ethier RF
Kent 2B
Ramirez LF
Loney 1B
Martin C
Blake 3B
Berroa SS
Lowe P

2008-08-11 18:00:27
22.   Sam DC
In other news, I am a new first time owner of an ipod (gift from sis). I have no idea what to do with the thing. I have not moved from "albums" to "songs" as my unit of thinking about music.

For example, I am sitting here holding Disc 1 of the White Album. Do I just load the whole thing into my itunes? Just load up Don't Pass Me By and leave it at that? Don't even bother?

2008-08-11 18:00:43
23.   El Lay Dave
19 Extensive discussion last thread.

20 Ned Colletti's job is to set up the Dodgers to win, not boost league-wide attendance.

2008-08-11 18:03:30
24.   The Trolley Dodger
"The notion that it would have been a problem if the Dodgers had somehow ended up with Dunn doesn't ooze with merit."

Why not?

2008-08-11 18:04:07
25.   fanerman
22 I have an iPod and I only load up albums. The annoying thing is it sorts albums alphabetically and not chronologically (as far as I know). I have to change the album tag to include the year. It's a little annoying but it works out.
2008-08-11 18:04:45
26.   fanerman
Okay... time to have an appointment with a third-world dentist.
2008-08-11 18:09:31
27.   GoBears
12 It's obvious the Dodgers didn't block Dunn to Arizona for one of two reasons:

1) NedCo and Co. were asleep at the wheel.

2) McCourt took the checkbook away from NedCo.

Or 3): Colletti (and Torre?) don't think Adam Dunn is a good player (strikeouts! oh, the humanity!).

I'm guessing 1 and/or 3, because (2) is irrelevant given how little Dunn is going to cost Arizona (Cincy picks up the salary, nothing of value traded, right?).

2008-08-11 18:10:58
28.   Eric Enders
24 How could acquiring an excellent power hitter for nothing (at least in terms of players) ever be a problem? Even if there's no place for him to start, he can pinch hit better than Sweeney. Even if he's wasted on the bench, at least you prevented him from being traded to your only competitor.

There is no conceivable downside to it, other than money. And despite what Greg Brock says, the circumstantial evidence continues to mount that the Dodgers can't afford to add payroll in midseason. Lack of money (or unwillingness to spend it) is the only plausible reason for not keeping Dunn away from the Diamondbacks.

2008-08-11 18:11:12
29.   Marty
Whatever happened to FearingBlue?
2008-08-11 18:12:09
30.   GoBears
Oh, and it's probably the case that the outcome of the Dodgers claiming Dunn would have been that Dunn stayed in Cincinnati. No?
2008-08-11 18:12:26
31.   Eric Enders
30 Yes.
2008-08-11 18:14:11
32.   Andrew Shimmin
24- Among other reasons, because Juan Pierre is the closest thing this team has to a pinch hitter.
2008-08-11 18:14:15
33.   Tripon
28 I would doubt Adam Dunn would want to pitch hit.
2008-08-11 18:15:32
34.   Eric Enders
33 What he wants is pretty irrelevant.
2008-08-11 18:15:53
35.   Tripon
You want to strengthen our bench? All you have to do is bench Eithier, and start Juan Pierre.
2008-08-11 18:15:56
36.   trainwreck
Barry Bonds has expressed interest in coaching at UCLA.

No thanks, we will stick with Savage.

2008-08-11 18:16:01
37.   GMac In The 909
27 Something tells me all those shiny home runs would outweigh all those dirty Ks.
2008-08-11 18:18:20
38.   Tripon
36 Didn't Bonds go to ASU?
2008-08-11 18:18:52
39.   OaklandAs
22 Load the entire album. The iPod can hold hundreds of CDs; may as well have everything available to listen to.
2008-08-11 18:19:59
40.   Eric Enders
36 He already has been coaching at UCLA on a volunteer basis. Or at least that's what he said on the Giants broadcast last night.
2008-08-11 18:21:51
41.   GoBears
37. Uh yeah, I was mocking the idea that Dunn's strikeouts are a reason to avoid him.

I'd love to add Dunn to this team for 2 months for free. The only reason I don't like the Ramirez dea is because it was nowhere near free.

2008-08-11 18:22:22
42.   Tripon
40 If that's true, then the local papers would have made a stink.
2008-08-11 18:24:57
43.   GMac In The 909
41 I was right there with you on the mocking. I'll try to be more snarky next time.
2008-08-11 18:25:36
44.   El Lay Dave
27 The Reds picked up part of the salary.
2008-08-11 18:26:39
45.   El Lay Dave
44 I meant to emphasize part.
2008-08-11 18:29:01
46.   Linkmeister
I don't even own an iPod, but my iTunes library has about 4,000 songs in it, all CDs I've loaded from my collection of the things.

Shuffle is a wonderful idea, even if I occasionally get the 3rd Movement of "Appalachian Spring" juxtaposed with "Proud Mary."

2008-08-11 18:30:46
47.   Sam DC
25 , 39 -- Thx.
2008-08-11 18:31:28
48.   Tripon
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/gamelog?statsId=6763

Since August started, Dunn's been a slump. Posting a .411 OPS and a .139 BA over August.(ten games.) Although he was smashing the ball in July with a 1.162 OPS and a .310 BA.

In June, he had a .768 OPS and a .161 BA.
May: 1.120, and .284
April: .811 and .232

The Guy's a pure feast and famine type of guy. Although his August numbers make my head scratch, the guy's in a heck of a mini slump.

2008-08-11 18:31:37
49.   Bob Hendley
My guess is that Ned doesn't think that Dunn is very good, so he wouldn't want him or think that he will help the Snakes.
2008-08-11 18:32:10
50.   Linkmeister
Oops, 1,493 songs, not 4,000. 5GB, 3.8 days.
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2008-08-11 18:32:36
51.   Eric Enders
The thing about slumps is that they're in the past. They've already happened. They don't tell you much about what a guy is likely to do from here on out.
2008-08-11 18:36:04
52.   regfairfield
Anyone can slump for 10 games.

Ichiro from April 10th to April 19th: .195/.283/.244. It proves nothing.

2008-08-11 18:36:41
53.   Louis in SF
If the Dodgers knew that Arizona might put in a claim on Dunn and thus put in a claim earlier, and they tried to negotiate a trade Cincy asks for a high level prospect we say no, Cincy then says no trade will keep him does he continue to go through the waiver process? Do we know at this time whether it was Revocable waivers or Irevocable waivers?
2008-08-11 18:39:57
54.   Eric Stephen
53
They were revocable waivers. If a player is on waivers, there is a claiming period, and only after that is it determined who the "winning" claiming team is. If the two sides can't work out a deal, the player cannot be placed on revocable waivers for the rest of the season.
2008-08-11 18:39:59
55.   Penguin
I don't want to commit a Rule 9 violation. But John Danks is pitching very well against the Red Sox tonight.
2008-08-11 18:40:18
56.   Sam DC
Sorry for this mild incursion into dopey ipod thoughts, but am I understanding right that, once I get a slew of songs loaded into itunes, I just check a set I'd like at a particular time and then sync and then that set is loaded into the device?

More precisely, do I need to delete the other stuff that's already in there or does it fully sync each time to whatever I have checked from my library?

2008-08-11 18:43:38
57.   bhsportsguy
53 No, if the Dodgers were the team that was awarded that waiver claim then either the Reds either let him go through waivers and get nothing but the $50,000 for the claim or they pull him back and try to work out a deal. If no deal is reached during the alloted time-frame, than Dunn is no longer eligible for any other transactions until the season is over.
2008-08-11 18:47:29
58.   bhsportsguy
28 I think it is more unwillingness to spend anymore money on payroll this year.
2008-08-11 18:51:58
59.   Tripon
Thats some man boobs on that Dodgers fan.
2008-08-11 18:53:44
60.   Greg Brock
58 get to the game!
2008-08-11 18:54:33
61.   Tripon
No hitter broke up in the Red Sox-White Sox game with a JD Drew RBI double.
2008-08-11 18:55:14
62.   Louis in SF
57

Thanks for the info. Hate to say it but in the case of the Dodgers it now sounds like Ned was partying with his old friends in SF yesterday and got in late today.

2008-08-11 18:56:42
63.   Tommy Naccarato
Found this on the Red's website:

"Miller would not reveal which ones, citing league rules. Arizona was awarded the claim based on its having the worst record among the claiming teams."

The Dodgers did nothing.

2008-08-11 19:00:17
64.   Tripon
Is ESPN 2 blocking tonight's game?
2008-08-11 19:01:15
65.   Tripon
Yep, looks like it.
2008-08-11 19:01:28
66.   Tommy Naccarato
I would like to add that this is a great move by Arizona. The NL west race is starting to look like a chess game....
2008-08-11 19:04:32
67.   Tripon
Its a great move for Ariz. unless he goes 0-100 with 20 errors in the next 60 games for the D'Backs. Then its a great trade for the Dodgers.
2008-08-11 19:06:24
68.   Eric Stephen
The lure of HD has brought me to ESPN2. Lets see how long it takes for Steve Phillips to drive me away!
2008-08-11 19:06:38
69.   Eric Enders
66 At this point, it's sort of like a chess match between Boris Spassky and Cosmo Kramer.
2008-08-11 19:09:33
70.   D4P
I've been surprised at how many empty seats there are at the gymnastics events.
2008-08-11 19:10:27
71.   scareduck
Jon, I think you overestimate the strength of the NL West. I think we'll see an 82- or 83-game division winner.
2008-08-11 19:11:27
72.   Eric Stephen
Either Steve Phillips is taking a really long restroom break, or the ESPN broadcast booth is only a two-man crew tonight (Shulman and Orel).
2008-08-11 19:11:54
73.   Jon Weisman
71 - Do you consider that a significant difference, or are you just joking around?
2008-08-11 19:12:08
74.   scareduck
56 - that is true for the iPod Shuffle, but not for the other units.
2008-08-11 19:13:08
75.   scareduck
73 - three games is a pretty significant difference.
2008-08-11 19:16:08
76.   Tripon
Adam Dunn v. Ryan Howard.
2008-08-11 19:17:54
77.   D4P
I'm watching Michael Phelps right now.
2008-08-11 19:18:47
78.   Tripon
77 Micheal Phelps isn't a Dodgers!
2008-08-11 19:19:07
79.   Dodgers49
57 53 No, if the Dodgers were the team that was awarded that waiver claim then either the Reds either let him go through waivers and get nothing but the $50,000 for the claim or they pull him back and try to work out a deal.

Where did you get that $50,000 figure? That's true for the Rule 5 draft. I don't think such a fee is required for a waiver claim.

2008-08-11 19:19:20
80.   Eric Stephen
76
Pretty much the same guy. Howard has more power; Dunn a little better eye.
2008-08-11 19:19:50
81.   Tripon
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh.
2008-08-11 19:22:19
82.   Tripon
Huh, looked like Rollins could have caught up with that ball.
2008-08-11 19:23:17
83.   Tripon
Hahahahahaha!

Vin: Dreadlegs or whatever you call them. Then again, when he got off the plane last night, he was in a suit, and he was coool.

2008-08-11 19:25:45
84.   larry slimfast
Has anyone suggested selling those LA dread-hats with the hair cut shorter?
2008-08-11 19:28:22
85.   Jon Weisman
75 - All our disagreements should be as deep as me writing "around 85 victories" and you writing "I think we'll see an 82- or 83-game division winner." :)
2008-08-11 19:28:58
86.   68elcamino427
Baby steps -

I'm ready for a win for Lowe tonight. Next I'll be pulling for a modest two game win streak:)

2008-08-11 19:29:16
87.   Jon Weisman
Sad non-Dodger news via Tony Jackson:

http://www.insidesocal.com/dodgers/2008/08/tragedy-hits-cl.html

2008-08-11 19:30:29
88.   larry slimfast
'cause you know... sell a few of those and you can help pay Manuel's salary next year... or Dunn's
2008-08-11 19:33:57
89.   Tripon
Lowe looks like he's on. Two K's this inning.
2008-08-11 19:36:07
90.   Eric Stephen
Greg Dobbs, career:

As a PH: .327/.370/.553 in 165 PA
Non-PH: .260/.308/.383 in 591 PA

2008-08-11 19:37:26
91.   68elcamino427
#7 James Loney with the lead off single
2008-08-11 19:38:42
92.   scareduck
Does it sound to anyone else like Vinny is a little bit woozy?
2008-08-11 19:38:44
93.   Tripon
Martin having a honest at bat.
2008-08-11 19:40:06
94.   Tripon
Balk called on the Phillies.
2008-08-11 19:40:43
95.   Eric Stephen
Not as sweet as Bill Hohn, but the stache of Chris Guccione just rescued the Dodgers from a DP.

Expect an RBI single from Russ here.

2008-08-11 19:40:56
96.   68elcamino427
We seem to have a balk situation rather than a double play ... not to bad.
2008-08-11 19:41:03
97.   larry slimfast
i know it worked in our favor but the balk call should be changed to where it doesn't effect the batters actions.
2008-08-11 19:42:11
98.   overkill94
Where exactly was the balk? Did they claim he didn't come set or that he came set twice?
2008-08-11 19:42:39
99.   D4P
Martin's almost making me miss Gary Bennett.
2008-08-11 19:43:32
100.   Eric Stephen
97
But it could have negatively affected the Dodgers too. Kendrick's illegal no-stop move to the plate could have deceived Loney to the point that he could have been thrown out trying to score on a double.
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2008-08-11 19:44:00
101.   larry slimfast
Gary Bennett misses you.
2008-08-11 19:44:17
102.   Eric Stephen
99
That's negative even for you.
2008-08-11 19:45:01
103.   larry slimfast
Werth has a cannon.
2008-08-11 19:46:51
104.   Gen3Blue
Its Oh-hell Berroa.
2008-08-11 19:47:52
105.   scareduck
...aaaand the Dodgers fail to cash in their gift RISP.

Helen told me earlier, watching how much Torre was running Martin out there, that she expected him to slump hard in the second half. Gotta give her props for that.

2008-08-11 19:48:28
106.   Eric Stephen
Per Tony Jackson, the Dodgers protest of the game in St. Louis (the Sweeney/Kent PH situation) was officially denied today.

Not shocking news.

2008-08-11 19:50:02
107.   Tripon
Ruiz is usually brought in for Closer Brad Lidge. I know certain starters have their own personal catchers, but a closer having his own personal catcher?
2008-08-11 19:50:29
108.   Tripon
Casey Blake being a Ballerina.
2008-08-11 19:54:14
109.   larry slimfast
that berroa has awkward but theoretically correct footwork...
2008-08-11 19:54:58
110.   Eric Stephen
I incorrectly identified the ump with the stache earlier. It was Tim Tschida, who is at 2nd base tonight.
2008-08-11 19:55:23
111.   scareduck
Christina Kahrl doesn't see Dunn as being that big of an improvement, mainly because the outfielder he will displace, Chad Tracy, isn't as big a step down as the difference between second baseman they just lost (Orlando Hudson) and the man/men who will replace him (Augie Ojeda, Chris Burke).

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7932

2008-08-11 19:57:35
112.   Eric Stephen
111
I think regfairfield wrote that. ;)
2008-08-11 19:57:59
113.   eusmus
For a guy with a 59/41 K/BB Kyle Kendrick seems to have pretty good control.
2008-08-11 19:58:25
114.   Tripon
Matt Kemp punishes Jimmy Rollins.
2008-08-11 19:58:46
115.   Eric Stephen
That's an error if I'm the official scorer.
2008-08-11 20:00:32
116.   68elcamino427
Re Martin -
Wasn't there concern for his lack of rest and well being at the All-Star break?

He looks tired for sure.

Assigning Ardoin to one of the pitchers might help get Martin the recovery time he could beneifit from and help Martin to regain his form.

2008-08-11 20:00:32
117.   Eric Stephen
That's on Rollins. A better tag would have nailed Kemp.
2008-08-11 20:00:38
118.   Tripon
Matt Kemp has speed.
2008-08-11 20:00:59
119.   larry slimfast
...and a hole in your chest if you're the shortstop.
2008-08-11 20:01:03
120.   68elcamino427
Bison Speed and Vinny love
2008-08-11 20:02:45
121.   regfairfield
111 But if they didn't make this trade they would have Tracy and Ojeda instead of Dunn and Ojeda.
2008-08-11 20:02:47
122.   larry slimfast
just lift the ball kent.
2008-08-11 20:03:34
123.   68elcamino427
Kent takes one for the team old school style
2008-08-11 20:03:35
124.   Tripon
113 As soon as you said that, Kyle Kendrick just lost the ability to pitch.
2008-08-11 20:03:37
125.   Eric Stephen
Manny has 20 grand slams.
2008-08-11 20:03:55
126.   scareduck
Not a good outing by Kendrick so far.
2008-08-11 20:05:14
127.   Tripon
So what, an hit that should have been an error, a walk, and a hit by pitch? Kyle Kendrick is awesome.
2008-08-11 20:05:23
128.   regfairfield
This seems a lot like those Odalis versus Pujols matchups.
2008-08-11 20:05:57
129.   thinkblue88
Manny see ball.
Manny hit ball.
2008-08-11 20:05:58
130.   Eric Stephen
125
...and now 20 bases loaded doubles.
2008-08-11 20:06:03
131.   larry slimfast
rake
2008-08-11 20:06:08
132.   Tripon
SAMSON!
2008-08-11 20:06:37
133.   scareduck
Now that was entertaining.

Manny Ramirez can hit a little.

2008-08-11 20:07:27
134.   Jon Weisman
Manny's career OPS now at 1.000.
2008-08-11 20:07:48
135.   Tripon
Loney! Back to back doubles!
2008-08-11 20:07:52
136.   thinkblue88
Weird Game!!!

Nice.

2008-08-11 20:08:01
137.   Eric Stephen
Every time something disparaging is said about him, Weird Game James gets his wings.
2008-08-11 20:08:30
138.   Rob M
I forgot what it was like to watch a HOF hitter play every day. It's been since Piazza left I guess. Or Sheffield, actually. Either way, it's been a while.

It's a lot of fun.

2008-08-11 20:09:33
139.   scareduck
134 - serious question: is that a decrease from his earlier numbers? It seemed for a while like he was hitting a home run in every game.
2008-08-11 20:10:14
140.   Tripon
Bowa, did you really had to send Loney?
2008-08-11 20:10:19
141.   trainwreck
Larry Bowa is a moron.
2008-08-11 20:10:29
142.   Andrew Shimmin
James Loney is not very fast.
2008-08-11 20:10:32
143.   Jon Weisman
Why, Larry? Why?

Bowa wasn't doing this so often in the first half.

2008-08-11 20:10:44
144.   Rob M
Werth's got a gun.
2008-08-11 20:10:44
145.   Eric Stephen
134
He started the day at 1.00025, and is now at 1.00038. Woo hoo!

Werth was bound to get Loney one of these times.

2008-08-11 20:11:03
146.   thinkblue88
According to Vinny, Bowa was safe. LOL
2008-08-11 20:11:16
147.   Jon Weisman
134 - It was slightly below 1.000 when he became a Dodger, then went slightly above, then went ever so slightly below until this inning.
2008-08-11 20:11:17
148.   larry slimfast
why does loney think he's fast? he's gumpy. god luv 'em.
2008-08-11 20:11:42
149.   sporky
Loney has the speed of an amoeba.
2008-08-11 20:11:53
150.   Jon Weisman
145 - Adjust for what Eric said, but the rest was accurate.
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2008-08-11 20:12:17
151.   Rob M
I nominate Vin for manager.
2008-08-11 20:12:19
152.   Tripon
Well, I don't care much about the Loney out anymore.
2008-08-11 20:12:29
153.   Eric Stephen
Blake!!! Making everyone forget about Loney being sent.
2008-08-11 20:12:54
154.   Jon Weisman
148 - Nothing to indicate Loney thinks he's fast.
2008-08-11 20:12:58
155.   scareduck
This scoring of runs thingy. I like it.
2008-08-11 20:13:51
156.   regfairfield
Yeah, that was all on Bowa, I think everyone knew James was dead to rights the second Werth came up throwing.
2008-08-11 20:13:52
157.   trainwreck
153
With what has gone on last two games. I am not forgetting any run. Larry Bowa is becoming the second Windmill.
2008-08-11 20:13:56
158.   Jon Weisman
153 - My first thought was "could have been a three-run homer..." But you're right - I should just move on.
2008-08-11 20:14:24
159.   CanuckDodger
148 -- What makes you think Loney thinks he's fast? If Bowa waves him home, is Loney supposed to stop at third and tell Bowa "No?"
2008-08-11 20:15:23
160.   underdog
Well, except for Bowa channeling the Windmill there, that was a fun inning!

Orel's right, Kendrick's getting the ball up a lot and they're crushing it, which is fine by me. Good stuff, Maynard.

2008-08-11 20:16:04
161.   bigE
Wow, this is about a month's worth of run support for Lowe.
2008-08-11 20:16:12
162.   underdog
Btw, did Orel really say "Albert Belle, very possibly a hall of famer" earlier, or was I hallucinating?
2008-08-11 20:16:31
163.   scareduck
157 - nobody in my mind will ever beat the Cubs' former third base coach in the 2004 season, Wavin' Wendell Kim, who sent a huge number of Northsiders to their doom at home.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendell_Kim

He didn't come back.

2008-08-11 20:16:32
164.   Mark Joseph
(A trifle late, but)

Manny, and Loney, and Blake, oh my!

2008-08-11 20:17:59
165.   Eric Stephen
162
Orel did say that, yep.

Dodgers are 32-3 when scoring 6 or more runs this season.

2008-08-11 20:20:50
166.   underdog
I have Albert Belle's rookie baseball card, so I hope it does happen! Almost 400 HRs and 1200 RBIs is a pretty darned nice career, actually. It just seemed weird to hear Orel praising him for some reason.

--

Off topic, but Aaron Rodgers looked pretty decent tonight.

2008-08-11 20:21:20
167.   Tripon
That throw was a bit high. Luckily, James Loney is actually Apache Chief, and used his powers of growing to reach and catch the ball.

INYUK-CHUK

2008-08-11 20:24:04
168.   larry slimfast
154 159 i was just being silly... but did he not ask joe torre earlier this season if he could steal more bases? i think he's a goofball.
2008-08-11 20:26:11
169.   Eric Stephen
That Kemp grimace didn't look to good.

Let's see if it affects his SB.

2008-08-11 20:26:57
170.   Tripon
168 I know Loney asked Torre if he could pitch.
2008-08-11 20:30:09
171.   MonkeyBlue
Bison speed!
2008-08-11 20:30:10
172.   thinkblue88
Bison Havoc.
2008-08-11 20:30:31
173.   Eric Stephen
The Bisonian Effect!
2008-08-11 20:30:33
174.   Tripon
Well, Kemp doesn't look hurt.
2008-08-11 20:30:55
175.   larry slimfast
170 ...and steal bases.

http://tinyurl.com/6znajq

2008-08-11 20:31:08
176.   Greg Brock
Good crowd at the yard for a Monday.

Kemp!

2008-08-11 20:31:18
177.   whodat807
Simulcasting the Dodger game and the men's gymnastics final. This announcer is such a jerk (the NBC guy, not Vin, of course).
2008-08-11 20:34:15
178.   Tripon
Yeah, they're not giving Manny anything to hit.
2008-08-11 20:34:27
179.   MonkeyBlue
Manny is not going to get any pitches to hit at all.
2008-08-11 20:34:54
180.   Eric Stephen
Dodgers 2008 record when they score...

0-2 runs: 4-38
3+ runs: 54-21
4+ runs: 47-15
5+ runs: 40-6
6+ runs: 32-3
7+ runs: 24-1
8+ runs: 17-0

2008-08-11 20:35:29
181.   scareduck
4-pitch walk.
2008-08-11 20:39:35
182.   MonkeyBlue
Loney with a awful at bat. Fooled so bad.
2008-08-11 20:39:39
183.   Tripon
Loney strikes out.
2008-08-11 20:40:40
184.   Eric Stephen
Some killer curve balls by Walrond, to both Martin & Loney.
2008-08-11 20:40:46
185.   MonkeyBlue
Freaking Ump really screwed Martin with the off pitch zone.
2008-08-11 20:40:51
186.   Bob Hendley
That 3+ record is impressive. Great pitchin.
2008-08-11 20:41:47
187.   Icaros
Didn't realize this was also on ESPN2. I'm torn between HD or having Vin announce.
2008-08-11 20:43:10
188.   Bob Hendley
187 - Vin is in great form tonight.
2008-08-11 20:43:29
189.   larry slimfast
154 159 wazza matter? you guys don't think loney's a goofy, gumpy, funny kind of dude?
2008-08-11 20:43:36
190.   Eric Stephen
186
Yeah, all of MLB has a .648 win% when scoring 3+ runs. Dodgers are at .720.
2008-08-11 20:43:47
191.   Uncle Miltie
Les Walrond looked terrific. What a curveball.

Maybe he'll be one of those career minor leaguers who breaks into the majors in his early 30's.

2008-08-11 20:44:39
192.   Eric Stephen
187
I went with HD, and the Shulman/Orel (non-Phillips) crew has made me happy with my decision.
2008-08-11 20:45:38
193.   Bob Hendley
They cheer Manny when he catches fly balls! He owns this crowd.
2008-08-11 20:45:46
194.   regfairfield
Being named Chico in the 70s must have been very difficult.
2008-08-11 20:45:55
195.   MonkeyBlue
Nice and easy inning for Lowe.
2008-08-11 20:46:38
196.   Icaros
192

I'm also worried about jinxing, since the Dodgers left the bases loaded when I switched over.

2008-08-11 20:47:01
197.   Eric Stephen
194
It led some to off themselves! Well, at least one.
2008-08-11 20:48:16
198.   Bob Hendley
194 - Chico Escuela?
2008-08-11 20:49:55
199.   Ian Capilouto
Beardo has done it again.
2008-08-11 20:50:26
200.   Jacob Burch
187 Could be a time to PIP the audio but make the 'off' screen the bigger one. Won't line up, but it's close enough for me.
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2008-08-11 20:50:40
201.   regfairfield
I was just thinking of the never ending stream of "hey Chico, where's the man?"

Being named Smokey would be just as bad.

2008-08-11 20:50:43
202.   Tripon
Berroa doesn't seem to realize this is his last start for a while.
2008-08-11 20:50:43
203.   Disabled List
Man, how come these balls weren't falling in for hits like this in SF?

I hate this game sometimes.

2008-08-11 20:51:06
204.   underdog
Manny loves him some protein bars.
2008-08-11 20:51:10
205.   Gen3Blue
"On-hell" Berroa.
2008-08-11 20:51:46
206.   underdog
203 I know, baseball is a funny, aggravating game. Would be nice if we could trade a couple of runs with yesterday's score. Maybe they can petition the league.
2008-08-11 20:52:14
207.   Eric Stephen
201
What about being named B.J. in the early 1980s, the hey day of "B.J. & the Bear"?

OK, I guess that's not a good name for any era.

2008-08-11 20:52:46
208.   Bob Hendley
Vin says Manny will talk to anyone that will listen, even an open locker.
2008-08-11 20:53:39
209.   Icaros
200

I understand what you're talking about, but I have no idea how to actually do that.

2008-08-11 20:53:59
210.   Jon Weisman
201 - I was thinking Chico Escuela too. Although I did get my share of "Good night, John Boy" at summer camp.
2008-08-11 20:54:05
211.   MonkeyBlue
Wow, disrespecting Ethier. Make'em pay!
2008-08-11 20:54:16
212.   underdog
187 Go with HD + Orel. Vin's a godsend but you get him a lot, but the HD has to be cool. I don't have HD or Vin, alas. But I still like hearing Hershiser.
2008-08-11 20:54:59
213.   Bob Hendley
202 - What's up? Hu's coming? Nomar's back.
2008-08-11 20:55:44
214.   Icaros
I'm sticking with the HD, for those scoring at home.
2008-08-11 20:56:16
215.   Gen3Blue
Eighth inning in San Fran last night--On-Hell, Osuna, and Kuo. Actually Kou got on,I think on an error.
2008-08-11 20:56:40
216.   Eric Stephen
213
Nomar is coming off the DL tomorrow.
2008-08-11 20:57:12
217.   trainwreck
207
Unless you are BJ Penn (UFC lightweight champ) and everyone is scared to make fun of you.
2008-08-11 21:00:29
218.   MonkeyBlue
HR here can change things here.
2008-08-11 21:02:29
219.   larry slimfast
i wish lowe would trim his "beard" differently. it makes his chin and jaw look weird.
2008-08-11 21:02:39
220.   Eric Stephen
Ryan Howard is venturing near Milton Bradley territory tonight.
2008-08-11 21:03:32
221.   Tripon
Why is Philly playing small ball? That team is filled with Smashers.
2008-08-11 21:06:17
222.   Eric Stephen
221
I don't think Howard was trying to ground out. Hitting is hard. Even for the Phillies.
2008-08-11 21:09:42
223.   Eric Stephen
Two doubles away from Eddie Murray.
2008-08-11 21:09:51
224.   MonkeyBlue
Freaking wussy!
2008-08-11 21:11:05
225.   Eric Stephen
ESPN couldn't have pulled a color picture of (the crazy) Mike Marshall?
2008-08-11 21:11:59
226.   sporky
For some reason, my ESPN2 has become ESPNews.
2008-08-11 21:12:07
227.   trainwreck
I wish we kept Kent in for a little longer.
2008-08-11 21:12:16
228.   Tripon
Wait, you're walking the guy IN THE SLUMP?
2008-08-11 21:12:31
229.   Gagne55
216 Yes, a shortstop that can actually hit again.
2008-08-11 21:12:34
230.   trainwreck
226
Game is blacked out for you.
2008-08-11 21:12:43
231.   Eric Stephen
The one other (non Vin) drawback of ESPN2 is that the running bottom line is showing Olympic news. I just saw something I would have liked to have avoided.
2008-08-11 21:13:36
232.   sporky
226 You mean ESPN doesn't hold supreme rights for all things entertainment and sports?
2008-08-11 21:13:54
233.   sporky
232 for 230 .
2008-08-11 21:14:37
234.   Eric Stephen
Les Walrond is More Curveball tonight. Sheesh.
2008-08-11 21:16:06
235.   Eric Stephen
232
You could move out of the LA basin and watch the Dodger game on ESPN2 tonight. But you'd also have to pay ~$160 for the Extra Innings package for almost all the other games.
2008-08-11 21:16:11
236.   Jon Weisman
I would choose 5-inch black-and-white with Vin over HD with anyone else.
2008-08-11 21:16:47
237.   Uncle Miltie
I'd love to hear Torre's explanation behind Loney bunting. I realize that Loney didn't look good in his first at bat against Walrond, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to give up an out, especially with the slumping Russell Martin on deck. Then an absolutely puzzling move by Manuel to walk Martin.
2008-08-11 21:16:54
238.   Jon Weisman
You'll have the rest of your lives to watch games on HD or better.
2008-08-11 21:17:12
239.   Eric Stephen
236
I don't get many Dodger games in HD. Let me indulge!
2008-08-11 21:18:08
240.   trainwreck
I am amazed ESPN showed a game that did not feature Red Sox, Yankees, Cubs, Mets, or Cardinals.

I will assume it is because of Manny.

2008-08-11 21:20:45
241.   Bob Hendley
239 - Ok, we'll tell you what Vin says and you let us know which player has more nose hair.
2008-08-11 21:21:02
242.   Tripon
Once ESPN's west coast headquarters opens in Downtown L.A. I expect dodgers and Angels games are going to be featured much more on ESPN.
2008-08-11 21:21:02
243.   Tripon
Once ESPN's west coast headquarters opens in Downtown L.A. I expect dodgers and Angels games are going to be featured much more on ESPN.
2008-08-11 21:22:07
244.   Gagne55
I believe that there is an ESPN Zone in Anaheim.
2008-08-11 21:23:13
245.   Tripon
Well, so much for Chan Ho Park being hurt.
2008-08-11 21:24:39
246.   trainwreck
242
Maybe there will be more Pac-10 basketball coverage then...

Oh, wait.

2008-08-11 21:28:43
247.   MonkeyBlue
What the heck was that?
2008-08-11 21:28:56
248.   trainwreck
There is no point in bringing in defensive replacements that are not good at defense.
2008-08-11 21:29:52
249.   Tripon
What the heck Eithier.
2008-08-11 21:30:09
250.   trainwreck
This is why I complained about Bowa and taking out Kent. This is only a three run lead with a guy on third.
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2008-08-11 21:30:45
251.   MonkeyBlue
The defense strikes again.
2008-08-11 21:30:46
252.   Bob Hendley
Vin giving us a taste of ESPN with Farve talk.

Ugh, Andre. Lost it in the lights.

2008-08-11 21:32:40
253.   Tripon
This game. this game. this game. this game. this game. this game. this game.
2008-08-11 21:37:44
254.   Eric Stephen
Now THAT was a tag!
2008-08-11 21:38:24
255.   MonkeyBlue
You can do that?
2008-08-11 21:38:55
256.   Eric Stephen
Excellent and completely illegal block of 2nd base by Utley.
2008-08-11 21:39:06
257.   scareduck
That actually looked like a really bad call.

Actually, on slo-mo, he didn't get his hand on the bag.

On the other hand, you could also argue it's fielding interference for blocking second base.

2008-08-11 21:40:40
258.   Icaros
I'm back to watching non-HD with Vin. The jinx made me do it, because this game got worse. Jon's guilt trip just confirmed I'd chosen correctly.
2008-08-11 21:40:56
259.   scareduck
I wonder if Torre will mention whether he argued the call from the fielder's interference POV.
2008-08-11 21:41:31
260.   trainwreck
256
How is it illegal?
2008-08-11 21:41:37
261.   MonkeyBlue
The Dodgers can't get anything going.
2008-08-11 21:42:21
262.   trainwreck
Orel does not seem to think it's illegal.
2008-08-11 21:43:15
263.   underdog
Pierre's nicer about it than Coco Crisp was.

--

Btw, I'm sorry, but Doubles Badminton just isn't right.

2008-08-11 21:44:03
264.   Landonkk
I have no idea if that is a legal play or not, but I do know that it is pretty cheap and probably considered "Bush League." I wish we had Ozzie Guillin managing so he would throw at Utley in his next AB.
2008-08-11 21:44:23
265.   Eric Stephen
262
I think Orel was opining from the "that's just baseball" side of the argument.
2008-08-11 21:44:47
266.   Bob Hendley
That situation begged for the runner to slide feet first. {brawl to ensue}
2008-08-11 21:45:41
267.   schoffle
Yeah I was thinking that looked bush league too, I would have loved to see Kemp really take him out on that double play.
2008-08-11 21:45:48
268.   Gagne55
Joe Beimel getting ready for his bobblehead night tomorrow!!!!!
2008-08-11 21:45:56
269.   scareduck
258 - since I can't get HD (WHY?)... well... ugh.
2008-08-11 21:48:31
270.   sporky
The Dodgers have out-OPSed the Phillies and Brewers in August.
2008-08-11 21:49:04
271.   sporky
Then again, so have the Giants.
2008-08-11 21:49:46
272.   sporky
271 meant to say LAD August OPS was greater than that of the Giants. Blech.
2008-08-11 21:50:40
273.   Johnson
The official rulebook states (2.00): "OBSTRUCTION is the act of a fielder who, while not in possession of the ball and
not in the act of fielding the ball, impedes the progress of any runner."

Since Utley was fielding the ball, no obstruction.

2008-08-11 21:54:16
274.   Landonkk
273 Again, maybe not illegal but definitely bush league. If it were a fair and generally accepted play, every 2B/SS would do it on every SB attempt.
2008-08-11 21:55:04
275.   The Dude Abides
Ox with the cheese!
2008-08-11 21:55:09
276.   MonkeyBlue
Power baby!
2008-08-11 21:55:15
277.   underdog
99! Zip!
2008-08-11 21:55:20
278.   Andrew Shimmin
Sure, but it's only the eighth inning.
2008-08-11 21:56:42
279.   underdog
No more doubles badminton, it's been replaced by the much more acceptable softball, US vs. Venezuela. The US pitcher is rather... attractive, too.
2008-08-11 21:57:06
280.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
Love to see the big boy muscle up like that...
2008-08-11 21:57:57
281.   Gagne55
273 For some reason whenever that is mentioned I remember the time in a playoff game between the A's and Red Sox when Variteck completely blocked off home when he wasn't even close to getting the ball. Byrnes collided with him and the two of them went flying. Meanwhile the ball was flying towards home and went to the backstop. It was an obvious illegal block by Variteck and just as obvious that Byrnes did not touch home. And yet Byrnes just stood there right by home plate (the umpire having made no signal) and waited for Variteck to retrieve the ball and tag him out. It was a blatant no call on interference but a far more boneheaded play by Byrnes not touching home.
2008-08-11 21:57:59
282.   Bob Hendley
274 - They don't do it because its a great way to get injuried.
2008-08-11 21:58:38
283.   Rob M
Oinkster commercial on Fox Sports! Mmmmm, bbq pork and fries.
2008-08-11 21:59:17
284.   MonkeyBlue
Manny is a freak of nature!
2008-08-11 22:00:12
285.   68elcamino427
Almost cut my hair ... Happened just the other day ...
2008-08-11 22:01:47
286.   larry slimfast
don't slide headfirst is a safer "unwritten rule" than don't block second. stick a spike in a leg and people don't block second base against you on purpose.
2008-08-11 22:01:53
287.   Bob Hendley
Vin called him Manny Mota. I love it!
2008-08-11 22:01:57
288.   68elcamino427
#7 James Loney with the double
2008-08-11 22:01:59
289.   MonkeyBlue
Loney! starting to feel comfortable again.
2008-08-11 22:02:12
290.   silverwidow
Loney! I'll take him over Dunn, thank you very much...
2008-08-11 22:02:48
291.   trainwreck
281
Actually, Byrnes was hobbling around in pain.
2008-08-11 22:03:07
292.   underdog
Insurance runs make me happy!

And in Houston Mike Krukow is probably watching and complaining about Dodger Stadium's left field area.

2008-08-11 22:03:11
293.   Tripon
Martin must love batting sixth. He gets on base twice due to IBB in a horrible slump.
2008-08-11 22:04:09
294.   Fallout
Loney sure didn't hit that very well.
2008-08-11 22:04:24
295.   MonkeyBlue
Come on Casey! horrible at bat.
2008-08-11 22:05:18
296.   underdog
I actually think that DP sort of did the Dodgers a favor. No need to waste Broxton's energy in the batter's box.
2008-08-11 22:05:33
297.   Eric Stephen
291
I seem to remember Byrnes complaining and pointing back at the plate, but I could be wrong.
2008-08-11 22:05:38
298.   MonkeyBlue
... I'm so glad this is Berroa last day to hit... until Nomar get hurt again.
2008-08-11 22:06:01
299.   Fallout
Wow. Not again.
2008-08-11 22:06:11
300.   trainwreck
Byrnes also shoved Varitek.
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2008-08-11 22:06:30
301.   silverwidow
If/when Nomar gets hurt again, GIVE THE JOB TO HU.
2008-08-11 22:06:35
302.   thinkblue88
279.
Great game so far!
2008-08-11 22:07:47
303.   trainwreck
Oh, boy.
2008-08-11 22:08:17
304.   underdog
LOL. Is Manny in the potty or something?
2008-08-11 22:08:42
305.   silverwidow
MANNY BEING MANNY!!!
2008-08-11 22:08:43
306.   Dodgers49
273 Since Utley was fielding the ball, no obstruction.

That was actually a pretty smart play by Utley. He was well aware that Juan Pierre always slides head first. It's unlikely he would have done that with Kemp stealing because Kemp always slides feet first. Placing your leg in the way of 200+ pounds of Bison spikes is a good way to land on the DL.

2008-08-11 22:08:49
307.   Tripon
Manny being Manny.
2008-08-11 22:08:55
308.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
am I alone in thinking that Hu should be playing SS now? Can't hit worse than Berroa.

Oh, and thanks, Manny, for showing up.

2008-08-11 22:09:28
309.   sporky
305 307 You're killing me.
2008-08-11 22:09:30
310.   whodat807
Hahahaha, oh Manny.
2008-08-11 22:09:31
311.   underdog
What is the scoop on Nomar anyway, btw -- is he definitely back this week?

And, yeah, bets on how long he lasts before his glass body breaks again?

2008-08-11 22:09:42
312.   Eric Stephen
291
Byrnes didn't go back to touch the plate because he believed he already touched it.

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As Varitek ran to get the ball -- getting a two-handed shove from Byrnes on the way -- Byrnes made no effort to touch the plate. Umpire Paul Emmel made no signal until Varitek tagged Byrnes, who hurt his left knee on the play.

"I didn't care if my leg had fallen off," Byrnes said, "I would have gone back and touched the plate."
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http://tinyurl.com/66lc6j

2008-08-11 22:10:14
313.   68elcamino427
Vin - there is none better. He is an artist at work.
2008-08-11 22:10:24
314.   trainwreck
If he was just going to the bathroom, it does not explain why his shirt was totally unbuttoned and he has a new glove.
2008-08-11 22:10:28
315.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
I love that Orel is whining that Broxton's slider is faster than his fastball was...
2008-08-11 22:11:03
316.   Andrew Shimmin
And so it begins. . .
2008-08-11 22:11:27
317.   Eric Stephen
315
Whining, or self-deprecation?
2008-08-11 22:12:05
318.   Tripon
Thats it, no more 4 our saves for Broxton please.
2008-08-11 22:12:07
319.   MonkeyBlue
Come on Broxton.
2008-08-11 22:12:32
320.   Tripon
4 out, not 4 our.
2008-08-11 22:12:50
321.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
317 Being self-depricating is just as good in this case. Actually, he seems sort of in awe of Broxton's power.
2008-08-11 22:13:38
322.   Andrew Shimmin
Sit down, Torre.
2008-08-11 22:13:39
323.   Jacob Burch
Paging Mr.Saito. Sigh.
2008-08-11 22:13:41
324.   Rob M
This is getting lame.
2008-08-11 22:13:42
325.   trainwreck
Broxton really needs some Focusin.
2008-08-11 22:13:43
326.   scareduck
Hm. Baserunner leakage, maybe not so good.

Here comes Torre.

2008-08-11 22:13:52
327.   larry slimfast
314 - manny = costanza
2008-08-11 22:14:05
328.   silverwidow
Kuo really should be throwing right now.
2008-08-11 22:14:06
329.   scareduck
325 - is that a Japanese beer?
2008-08-11 22:14:09
330.   Gagne55
312 But the umpire didn't signal "safe." I suppose Byrnes believed he had touched the plate, but when the umpire makes no signal is means the runner hasn't touched the base. That was IMO the dumbest baseball play I have ever seen.
2008-08-11 22:15:05
331.   Icaros
I'm seriously going to kill somebody if Broxton doesn't cut it out.
2008-08-11 22:15:19
332.   scareduck
The Phils must be the only team with their uniform numbers also on their sleeves.
2008-08-11 22:15:33
333.   Xeifrank
Is CloserGuo available tonight?
vr, Xei
2008-08-11 22:16:17
334.   68elcamino427
So what did Torre say?
2008-08-11 22:16:18
335.   Eric Stephen
330
I agree with you. I was just trying to point out that Byrnes made a choice not to (re)touch home plate, and it wasn't just because he was hurt.
2008-08-11 22:16:57
336.   trainwreck
330
You must have missed when JD Drew and Jeff Kent both got tagged out at home plate in a playoff game.

Or when Jeremy Giambi did not bother to slide and got tagged out against the Yankees in the playoffs.

2008-08-11 22:17:00
337.   Tripon
Broxton's pitching much better.
2008-08-11 22:17:19
338.   Bob Hendley
Mongo throw gas.
2008-08-11 22:17:40
339.   scareduck
337 - the competition was much worse.
2008-08-11 22:17:41
340.   Icaros
334

"Quit grab-assing and throw strikes!"

2008-08-11 22:17:56
341.   Andrew Shimmin
Skinner: Please, Mr. Simpson. I'm afraid I'll have to expel your son, [Marge gasps] unless you're willing to try a radical, untested, potentially dangerous ...

Homer: Candy bar?

Skinner: No. It's a new drug, called Focusyn.

2008-08-11 22:18:26
342.   Tripon
Woo, Manny makes an out.

I was scared for a sec that he was going to play it off a bounce.

2008-08-11 22:18:29
343.   underdog
The Magic Red Glove works!
2008-08-11 22:18:37
344.   silverwidow
K-Rod is a free agent. Just saying.
2008-08-11 22:18:38
345.   capdodger
337 Joe told him to get these guys out and they can all go to In-N-Out after the game.
2008-08-11 22:18:48
346.   scareduck
333 - just call him the Guoser.
2008-08-11 22:18:58
347.   underdog
Mongo only pawn in game of baseball.
2008-08-11 22:19:18
348.   milkshakeballa
Wow, what a catch by Manny!!!! And they said he couldn't play D!!!! What a catch!!!!!
2008-08-11 22:20:01
349.   Eric Stephen
The Hawaiian was in fact Flyin' on that grounder!
2008-08-11 22:20:02
350.   MonkeyBlue
Nooooooo....
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2008-08-11 22:20:09
351.   silverwidow
This is going to be blown.
2008-08-11 22:20:13
352.   Tripon
344 And he's going to cost somebody $75 million.

...And come on. This is nuts. NUTS.

2008-08-11 22:20:23
353.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
what the ____ is it with these ninth inning choppers that don't get turned into outs?
2008-08-11 22:20:27
354.   underdog
I know this is a macro at this point, but Furcal would've had that.
2008-08-11 22:20:38
355.   scareduck
My, it gets interesting awfully late.
2008-08-11 22:20:42
356.   Bob Hendley
343 - Tomato soaked.
2008-08-11 22:21:03
357.   milkshakeballa
im about to be sick....maybe
2008-08-11 22:21:18
358.   Eric Stephen
351
Wanna bet?
2008-08-11 22:21:46
359.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
C'mon Brox!
2008-08-11 22:21:56
360.   scareduck
353 - it's called the vortex of suck known as Angel Berroa's glove.
2008-08-11 22:22:29
361.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
354 But would Hu? That's an actual decision that could have been made here.
2008-08-11 22:23:01
362.   Gilberto Reyes
Broxton will get Utley out.
2008-08-11 22:23:13
363.   Eric Stephen
I want to replay that grounder, because I thought Broxton could have made an effort to snare it.
2008-08-11 22:23:13
364.   overkill94
If only we hadn't left 12 men on base today, this wouldn't be such a tense moment
2008-08-11 22:23:21
365.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
360 Last night it was Ozuna and Berroa, no?
2008-08-11 22:24:12
366.   Gagne55
336 That was terrible baserunning. It was very boneheaded but not as much as standing right by home plate while the catcher retrieves a ball and tags you out. Oddly, with tons of regular season games watched the three worst baserunning plays I've ever seen were in the playoffs.
1. Byrnes doesn't touch home.
2. Tejada stops halfway between third and home.
3. Kent and Drew get thrown out at the plate on the same play.
2008-08-11 22:24:19
367.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
Utley has guts to take that pitch.
2008-08-11 22:24:28
368.   Eric Stephen
Looks like the Kluoser has to finish Kershaw's game tomorrow.
2008-08-11 22:25:14
369.   Ian Capilouto
COME ON!!!!
2008-08-11 22:25:25
370.   Rob M
Maybe we should call up Meloan to shore up the pen. Oh, wait.
2008-08-11 22:25:29
371.   scareduck
367 - he seems to have intestines a-plenty.
2008-08-11 22:25:43
372.   Eric Stephen
Such is life right now.
2008-08-11 22:25:45
373.   silverwidow
Yeah, I wanna bet.
2008-08-11 22:25:53
374.   Johnson
If we blow this I will pitch an absolute fit.
2008-08-11 22:25:56
375.   scareduck
8-6 with Ryan Howard up.
2008-08-11 22:26:02
376.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
So, he sort of took Orel's advice, but didn't get it high enough and outside enough...
2008-08-11 22:26:21
377.   MonkeyBlue
This is not happening.
2008-08-11 22:26:25
378.   Jacob Burch
I hear the NFL season is starting soon. I root for a consistent, good football team. NFL season is coming soon. NFL season is coming soon.
2008-08-11 22:26:31
379.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Guh.
2008-08-11 22:26:32
380.   Icaros
There hasn't been a damn ball hit hard all week!!!
2008-08-11 22:26:38
381.   68elcamino427
Choppers

Dinkers

Gary Bennett

2008-08-11 22:26:39
382.   Tripon
Maybe we should just DFA Berroa and call up a guy who actually knows how to play D.
2008-08-11 22:26:43
383.   underdog
Gack, the Dodgers have had so much bs bad luck the past few games in the 9th. That was a great at bat by Utley, too. I thought the pitch calling was very good there except for that one slider too many that he hit foul. C'mon Broxton! You can do this you big ox!
2008-08-11 22:26:59
384.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Love that shift!
2008-08-11 22:27:02
385.   Eric Stephen
373
You owe me a bajillionty dollars.
2008-08-11 22:27:02
386.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
Dodgers win!
2008-08-11 22:27:09
387.   Johnson
Mercy.
2008-08-11 22:27:13
388.   Xeifrank
At what point do you bring Guo in? Tomorrow evening?
vr, Xei
2008-08-11 22:27:14
389.   Ian Capilouto
Thank you Jesus!
2008-08-11 22:27:16
390.   scareduck
And it's over, finally.
2008-08-11 22:27:20
391.   Tripon
Finally! A four run lead shouldn't be nerve breaking. It just shouldn't be.
2008-08-11 22:27:24
392.   MonkeyBlue
Thank you Howard.
2008-08-11 22:27:28
393.   Gagne55
That was scary.
2008-08-11 22:27:36
394.   thinkblue88
Amazing job by our closer to get out of that jam.

Keep it up Blue Ox!!!

2008-08-11 22:27:40
395.   Xeifrank
whew! close call tonight.
vr, Xei
2008-08-11 22:27:47
396.   underdog
WHEW.

Exhale.

Move it along people, nothing here to see, move it along.

Loney is the Pepsi™ Clutch Player of the game.

2008-08-11 22:28:14
397.   Uncle Miltie
Since when did Billy Koch take over Broxton's body? Thank God he has an amazing slider.
2008-08-11 22:28:16
398.   Eric Stephen
Well, I'm going to go change my shorts. Good night, folks!
2008-08-11 22:28:20
399.   Alex41592
"Hang Time" is right. So, we just need a four run lead every time we head to the ninth. Done.
2008-08-11 22:28:20
400.   Gagne55
Broxton FTS. Not pretty but it's a win.
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2008-08-11 22:28:28
401.   Icaros
Can Broxton tend to them rabbits now, Joe?
2008-08-11 22:28:47
402.   Brent is a Dodger Fan
Don't you love it when the professional announcer calls it "RBIs", instead of understanding that it isn't Runs Batted Ins and thereby calling it RBI?
2008-08-11 22:28:49
403.   underdog
Okay, I'm going to do everything I couldn't do for the past couple of innings because I was too nervous. So, night all.
2008-08-11 22:29:13
404.   68elcamino427
Ok here we go!

Mongo Broxton gets the job done again.

Nice win for the Dodgers. Lowe - finally!

I'm ready for a modest two game win streak.

2008-08-11 22:29:26
405.   Tripon
hah, Manny, Kent's only 4 years older than you.
2008-08-11 22:29:30
406.   MonkeyBlue
LOL Manny watching Kent when he was young.
2008-08-11 22:29:58
407.   Bob Hendley
394] - Ditto! He handled that well.
2008-08-11 22:30:04
408.   Zak
406 LOL. I couldn't believe that. I almost sprayed diet coke out my mouth.
2008-08-11 22:30:04
409.   scareduck
Manny's already sick of the media. He's giving Bull Durham answers to every question.
2008-08-11 22:31:01
410.   Fallout
How many runs and base runners has Broxton had in the past 2 games?
2008-08-11 22:31:01
411.   scareduck
402 - EVERYBODY says this. Why do you think this is so odd?
2008-08-11 22:31:10
412.   Gagne55
What did Manny say about Kent?
2008-08-11 22:32:30
413.   scareduck
412 - see 406 .
2008-08-11 22:32:52
414.   larry slimfast
torre and manny will have a conversation after the game and we will read about it in the paper. it will be of zero substance and people will get fired up about it... just a prediction.
2008-08-11 22:33:27
415.   Gilberto Reyes
What kind of pitch were you looking for in the 3rd inning?

Manny - Nothing man. I'm just trying to get a pitch to hit.

How do you like Jeff Kent hitting in front of you?

Manny - I always watch him when I was young.

When are you going to trim your hair?

Manny - We're working on it.

2008-08-11 22:34:07
416.   Icaros
Is "Jurassic Bark" the sad Futurama episode people were talking about awhile back?
2008-08-11 22:34:50
417.   68elcamino427
Torre and the coaches should grow the dreds.
2008-08-11 22:36:24
418.   Xeifrank
402. You've been hanging out with Bob too much. :)
vr, Xei
2008-08-11 22:36:34
419.   Tripon
Nomar's back. Nomar's back, thank almighty's Nomar's back!
2008-08-11 22:36:43
420.   thinkblue88
410.
How many screaming liners down the line and home runs has he given up the last two days?

This inning:

Cheap single
Walk
Strikeout
Fly out
Infield Single
Bloop Single
Ground out

Its not like he is being hit hard. Seems very unlucky.

2008-08-11 22:36:59
421.   Gagne55
415 awesome interview
2008-08-11 22:37:37
422.   underdog
416 Dunno which people were talking about but sounds right. It's one of the few that makes me teary eyed, for sure. Get out your hankies.

--

Vegas Update: Eric Stults struck out 8 in less than 6 innings, in a win vs Sacramento today.

2008-08-11 22:41:27
423.   Fallout
420 thinkblue88
He's lucky Utley did hit that slider fair.
2008-08-11 22:42:39
424.   Icaros
422

Snoopy Come Home destroys me every time.

2008-08-11 22:44:12
425.   larry slimfast
Snoopy Come Home ranks as my saddest movie ever.
2008-08-11 22:45:10
426.   larry slimfast
the very thought of the song makes me want to cry
2008-08-11 22:46:39
427.   thinkblue88
424.
True.

I'm just glad we got the win. Hopefully Broxton can build off of this.

2008-08-11 22:50:17
428.   Fallout
Hopefully this team will get more big hits more often.
2008-08-11 22:53:38
429.   Bob Hendley
419 - What? Don't tell me he hurt it already!
2008-08-11 22:55:41
430.   underdog
Snooooo-oo-py! Snooooo-ooo-py! Come home!

{sniff}

--

Btw, the Cincy sports blog/media outlet Lot D is reporting that the Reds will be getting back two players from the AZ 40 man and one will be a ML-ready starter (could be Owings? He mentions Scherzer as possibility but I don't see that happening, that would make this a much less smarter trade for the Dbacks). Anyway, Lot D claims to have an inside source, but who knows. No one knows who the players are yet but it sounds like it will be two recognizable players, at least. Stay tuned.

2008-08-11 23:27:02
431.   Greg Brock
Jurassic Bark is brutal.
2008-08-11 23:40:59
432.   The Trolley Dodger
That's the episode I can't watch again. Saw it once. That was enough.
2008-08-11 23:41:31
433.   El Lay Dave
Brian's Song.
2008-08-12 00:08:26
434.   GoBears
402 Don't you love it when the professional announcer calls it "RBIs", instead of understanding that it isn't Runs Batted Ins and thereby calling it RBI?

I completely disagree. It bugged the heck out of me when some SportsCenter hosts started dropped the s and made RBI the plural of RBI.

Yes, RBI is an abbreviation, and the noun that should be pluralized is "Run," but when we abbreviate it, we make the whole thing ("RBI") into a singular noun. "RBIs" therefore is appropriate.

I'm similarly annoyed when teams with goofy singular concept nicknames (Heat, Magic, Crimson Tide, and Jon's school) are not treated the same way as everyone else. And here, it's not a matter of colloquial preference - it's straightforward grammar 101. "The Heat play in Miami" just as the "Celtics play in Boston." Not "The Heat plays in Miami."

Sports announcers shouldn't think too hard.

I will admit, however, that I too am stymied by the singular of "Sox."

2008-08-12 00:12:17
435.   Icaros
431 432

Yeah, it wasn't the normal, redeeming sad, where you actually feel better after watching it. Good grief.

2008-08-12 00:26:49
436.   Xeifrank
The Dodgers magic number was trimmed to 46 tonight. vr, Xei
2008-08-12 00:53:04
437.   Eric Enders
I prefer RBI myself, but the Chicago Style Manual says RBIs is the preferred pluralization.
2008-08-12 00:55:13
438.   sporky
What's the plural of "ribbie/ribby"?
2008-08-12 01:06:08
439.   Dodgers49
Mailbag: Salary math post-2008?

>> Beat reporter Ken Gurnick answers Dodgers fans' questions <<

http://tinyurl.com/68onmj

2008-08-12 01:11:58
440.   Eric Enders
439 What's he going to talk about now that he doesn't have Andy LaRoche to kick around anymore?
2008-08-12 01:14:33
441.   Dodgers49
Nomar expected to return Tuesday

>> Garciaparra was sent to the disabled list on Aug. 1 to make room on the roster for Manny Ramirez. Torre said the team likely will make a similar move Tuesday to free up a spot with Andruw Jones slated as a candidate for the DL. Jones, who is 1-for-16 in his past 10 games, has soreness in his surgically repaired right knee. <<

http://tinyurl.com/6fodeu

2008-08-12 01:19:01
442.   Eric Enders
Say what you will about the current administration, but I'm pretty impressed with the way they're always manipulating the roster by using the phantom DL for undesirable players.
2008-08-12 01:28:35
443.   Dodgers49
Neddy, we hardly knew you:

>> Monday marked general manager Ned Colletti's 1,000th day on the job. <<

http://tinyurl.com/5d4pxn

2008-08-12 04:39:04
444.   D4P
Kent on Howard:

But they do such a great job of manufacturing runs, you can hit .240 and still drive in 100. That's telling you that their team is operating well.

2008-08-12 05:21:32
445.   Bluebleeder87
nice win for the Dodgers yesterday lets hope the trend continues.
2008-08-12 07:51:21
446.   Jon Weisman
443 - I read that line and I thought "Monday" meant "Rick Monday" and that he probably made his remark on day 1,002.
2008-08-12 08:15:05
447.   Jon Weisman
NPUT
2008-08-12 08:19:44
448.   Gen3Blue
It would be nice to start a streak tonight but Hamels is a real challenge. I didn't realize just how good his peripherals are.
I Notice that Biemel has only thrown about 2 innings in the last eight days. Of course it is more important how many times he has had to warm up to game readiness.
We certainly should be due for a bunch of lucky breaks, but you never know when that tide is going to turn.

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