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Top of the Stairs
2008-08-20 09:25
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

Why has the Dodgers' pursuit of Arizona felt like this?

Since losing their second game of the season, the Diamondbacks have won nine consecutive games after beginning the day tied for first place in the National League West. (Thanks to Dodger Thoughts commenter Gagne 55 for the tip.)

Bowl of hell! Bowl of hell! Bowl of hell!

Update: ToyCannon at True Blue L.A. has a sobering look at things, though keep in mind there's still 5 1/2 weeks of baseball left.

Comments (151)
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2008-08-20 09:37:48
1.   Brian Y
I still have a hard time making excuses for Ned not blocking Dunn from the D'Backs and putting in a claim. It's not like Dunn can't play 1B also.
2008-08-20 09:38:35
2.   ToyCannon
ary
2008-08-20 09:39:00
3.   Kevin Lewis
1

Hey, you can't sing that

2008-08-20 09:44:30
4.   underdog
I was thinking of this KITH sketch -- "Do not avoid the hounds of hell. Do not avoid the beasts of brimstone. Do not avoid the, uh, puppies of purgatory!"

Actually the Dodgers quest to be alone in first reminds me of one of those dreams where you just never reach your destination no matter how hard you try.

2008-08-20 09:45:48
5.   KG16
2 - the fact that your line got broken up into two threads is just the awesome.

And I did watch Dr. Horrible. it is also the awesome. Neil Patrick Harris has a lot more talent than I previously thought. And Nathan Fillion is just great in everything he does.

2008-08-20 09:51:53
6.   GMac In The 909
5 Wait, ToyCannon ghost writes as me? =)
2008-08-20 09:52:30
7.   Disabled List
I hate to agree with Rosenthal, but his last article really nailed it. For all the moves Ned has made in the last couple of weeks, the one he didn't make - blocking Dunn - is the one that may have the most impact on the Dodgers' chances of making the playoffs.
2008-08-20 09:55:09
8.   SortaLaSorda
IMO, the Dodgers will have to go on multiple 4-5 game win streaks in order to win the division--and even then, I expect Arizona to still be right there, tied or a game back. They just seem to have more "stickiness" (eww...). It might be an interesting stat to see how many times the D-backs have won the same night we did, or when they lose when we do.
Last night's collapse by Kuo was hard to take. It almost seemed like it was inevitable..
2008-08-20 09:55:42
9.   Tripon
1 We have Loney.
2008-08-20 09:55:42
10.   Tripon
1 We have Loney.
2008-08-20 09:57:20
11.   KG16
6 - d'oh. it's before noon, my reading comprehension skills are teh suck.
2008-08-20 09:59:05
12.   Jon Weisman
4 - That's my fundamental recurring dream: many different forms, same theme.
2008-08-20 10:01:27
13.   underdog
8 How about winning the series with the Dbacks? That would help more than anything. If they're within a game as they are now, which I have a feeling they will be. After this tough stretch, the Dodgers will play a bit easier sched plus the AZ games so it should still be within their grasp.

--

You know what's weird - or sad? I actually had a dream last night in which Colletti was fired, and still in-season, so I was shocked and ran to DT to see the predicted reaction unfold. Fortunately my dream wasn't just about that or it would've been particularly sad.

2008-08-20 10:02:51
14.   Kevin Lewis
I had a dream last night that I put on white pants for work a la Miami Vice.

Fortunately I woke up before it got out of hand

2008-08-20 10:11:05
15.   El Lay Dave
Joe Torre, blogger?
http://joetorre.mlblogs.com/
2008-08-20 10:12:53
16.   El Lay Dave
~5 1/2 weeks worked for the Rockies last season.
2008-08-20 10:14:36
17.   Jon Weisman
15 - I was going to link to that. The ghostwriter could have tried harder to make the blog's Torreness the least bit convincing.
2008-08-20 10:18:24
18.   Brian Y
Even Loney needs a day off every now and then. Hmmm, Mark Sweeney or Adam Dunn???
2008-08-20 10:21:11
19.   underdog
18 Dunn would be a pretty expensive backup first baseman, if that's the scenario. Nomar can play first as can Blake and so on.

I agree with the criticisms about Colletti's failure to block Dunn (though Rosenthal's stuff about it seemed pretty late in the game, as if someone fed him the idea, and a little hypocritical). Basically, I think they should have blocked it but also kinda understand why they didn't.

--

I'm surprised the Torre ghostwriter didn't slip in a "like, whatever" in there somewhere.

2008-08-20 10:22:06
20.   Bob Timmermann
Afghanistan wins its first Olympic medal!

Three cheers for Rohullah Nikpai who won bronze in the 58 kg class of men's taekwondo.

2008-08-20 10:22:58
21.   Daniel Zappala
How many pitchers does a team normally carry for the LDS? I am thinking 9 or 10.

Daniel Z can correct me if I'm wrong, but most of the LDS teams I see have 2 pitchers. Very well dressed and polite. Often with bicycles.

Usually 2, sometimes 3, which occurs when a new pitcher is being brought up before the current one is sent down. They play in many different leagues as well -- other teams carry a couple of quarterbacks or point guards.

2008-08-20 10:32:41
22.   Bob Timmermann
I'm just glad Ben Olson didn't try coming to my neighborhood.

"So would you like to hear about the LDS? Or would you like to stay Catholic? Hold on.. Hold on..." (Sacked by a brawny Jehovah's Witness.)

2008-08-20 10:34:59
23.   Tripon
Royals starter Luke Hochevar left the game after taking the mound but without throwing a pitch in the sixth inning because of muscular tightness in his right rib cage. The seriousness of the injury wasn't immediately known.

http://www.kansascity.com/385/story/756709.html

2008-08-20 10:36:19
24.   still bevens
23 lolchevar
2008-08-20 10:38:43
25.   bhsportsguy
22 How long will you hold that game against the Notre Dame against him?
2008-08-20 10:42:32
26.   Humma Kavula
25 Bob isn't one to hold a grudge. Just ask the city of Cleveland.
2008-08-20 10:42:52
27.   Eric Stephen
Here are number of pitchers on each roster for last year's NLDS:

Cubs - 11 pitchers
D-Backs - 11 pitchers

Phillies - 10 pitchers
Rockies - 12 pitchers (!!!)

2008-08-20 10:43:41
28.   Jon Weisman
Ken Rosenthal to talk to bloggers:
http://sportsblogs.latimes.com/sports_baseball_dodgers/2008/08/when-do-those-o.html
2008-08-20 10:44:49
29.   Bob Timmermann
Slate has a three page article today about why people who do crossword puzzles or sudoku are wasting their lives when they should be reading.
2008-08-20 10:55:14
30.   Jon Weisman
29 - The Irony Committee has fast-tracked this one for approval.
2008-08-20 10:57:51
31.   bhsportsguy
Simers writes a column pretty much confirming how I read the whole non-story in today's LAT.
2008-08-20 11:10:23
32.   Tripon
Can we call Andy LaRoche a bust yet?
2008-08-20 11:12:52
33.   regfairfield
32 Just like we called Paul Konerko one.
2008-08-20 11:13:44
34.   Tripon
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=ApGjbqPMIXyQyj9pVC0TvVgRvLYF?slug=ti-dodgers081908&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Tim Brown writes about the current state of the Dodgers.

2008-08-20 11:19:12
35.   gpellamjr
32 Either that's a rule 3 violation, or you're joking. I know you can't seriously think that.
2008-08-20 11:19:26
36.   arborial
15 I love Torre's line about getting a grey dog for away games, classic.
2008-08-20 11:20:08
37.   Kevin Lewis
The thing that annoyed me most about the first Simers article was the way he brushed off Kent's performance last year and the years before as if it held no bearing on how Jeff performs in a given year.
2008-08-20 11:21:18
38.   Tripon
35 Its a joke. Although it's looking like 2008 is a lost year for LaRoche. He's the Andy Marte of the NL at the moment. (yes, I stole that from ToyCannon over at True Blue L.A.)
2008-08-20 11:21:19
39.   D4P
I'm giving Andy LaRoche a free pass until next year. If his performance next year isn't very good, then I'm done with'im.
2008-08-20 11:22:04
40.   JoeyP
32--Not even close.

LaRoche has an insanely flukishly low BABIP.

He's 16/90 on balls in play.
Thats a .178 average.

I dont think I've ever seen a player have that low of percentage.

2008-08-20 11:22:18
41.   regfairfield
LaRoche's BABIP this year is somewhere in the .175 neighborhood.
2008-08-20 11:23:15
42.   regfairfield
40 Sweeney's at .173.
2008-08-20 11:25:41
43.   El Lay Dave
41 As you pointed out in TBLA comments, his LD% is four.
2008-08-20 11:27:08
44.   regfairfield
Details...
2008-08-20 11:28:53
45.   El Lay Dave
44 4.8%, for Pittsburgh. (per THT)
2008-08-20 11:29:02
46.   D4P
I'm not willing to write off LaRoche's low BABIP as "bad luck". I think there's something systematic about it (e.g. he's not 100% physically).
2008-08-20 11:31:51
47.   regfairfield
46 When you get that low, it's at least partially bad luck. His PrOPS is .784.
2008-08-20 11:32:39
48.   scareduck
0 - Why has the Dodgers' pursuit of Arizona felt like this?

Because the Dodgers are a bunch of transvestites and/or soft-shoe-ing fabuloids?

2008-08-20 11:33:30
49.   D4P
Andy's Isos are very good. He just needs to start getting some hits. I suspect that he's just not hitting the ball very hard.
2008-08-20 11:34:36
50.   ToyCannon
I'm blaming it on the injuries but at some point he has to stay healthy enough to get a read on him. While he's hitting at a Marte level I have not even given up on Marte yet. I've seen to many kids struggle when given sporadic at bats. This is the first time that both Marte and LaRoche are being given a real chance to see what they have.

My main point which I didn't express is that I'm very glad that Casey Blake has been and will be manning 3rd base then LaRoche not because I don't believe LaRoche can be a player but because I had no faith he was going to be that player this year.

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2008-08-20 11:39:28
51.   JoeyP
Is it a given that Casey Blake re-signs with the Dodgers?
2008-08-20 11:40:52
52.   Marty
Can we call Andy LaRoche a bust yet?

Sure you can. You'll get wet, but you can do it.

2008-08-20 11:40:59
53.   njr
Plaschke on the front page of the LA Times makes me a little bit sick.
2008-08-20 11:42:49
54.   Tripon
51 Or we resign Nomar to man 3rd base.
2008-08-20 11:42:58
55.   Jon Weisman
I admit, I thought this was cool:

http://tinyurl.com/6eehfk

2008-08-20 11:44:50
56.   Eric Stephen
51
If I had to guess, I think McCourt is smitten with Manny and the full stands he has seen thus far, so Manny will be resigned.

Then, I can see one of Blake or Furcal being brought back on a one-year deal, leaving two of 2B/SS/3B to the young ones. Given how DeWitt is held in pretty high esteem by the coaching staff and management, I think Blake is the least likely to come back next season.

Of course, there's also the matter of Blake wanting (and probably getting) a multi-year deal from someone.

2008-08-20 11:47:50
57.   bhsportsguy
In the past regfairfield has commented on how LD% is a good indicator for success.

The seven Dodgers who have at least 325 balls in play have the following the LD%, can you match the pct. with the player?

1. 24.7%
2. 23.6%
3. 20.9%
4. 20.5%
5. 23.2%
6. 23.4%
7. 19.1%

Full disclosure, Juan Pierre is not on this list, one, because he has only 310 BIP (23% LD%) and two, he appears to not be playing regularly at this time. And yes, there is no Dodger SS on this list.

2008-08-20 11:50:47
58.   Humma Kavula
29 I am pretty certain that the author of that article thought to himself, "I have this pet peeve. It's not really enough for an article, and truth be told, I don't take my pet peeve all that seriously. Hm, I think if I raise it to the level of hyperbole, writing with vitriol about people who do puzzles, it will be funny. Surely everyone will be able to tell that my tongue is planted firmly in my cheek."

This works almost never.

2008-08-20 11:51:49
59.   Eric Stephen
57
Is that from Hardball Times? I am getting slightly different numbers.
2008-08-20 11:54:29
60.   Eric Stephen
Jason Repko's 3 balls in play have produced a 0% LD%.

Gary Bennett is rocking a 23.8%.

2008-08-20 11:55:05
61.   bhsportsguy
59 They are from Bill James and I forgot to take out the home runs.
2008-08-20 12:07:21
62.   Eric Stephen
On September 18, 1972, Frank Robinson hit career HR #522 of Steve Arlin, at San Diego's Jack Murphy Stadium, as a Dodger.

Manny is sitting at 516 career HR, so if he hits 7 more HR this season he will have the most career HR of anyone ever wearing a Dodger uniform.

2008-08-20 12:07:29
63.   Tripon
Jacob (Amherst): Morales, Billingsley, Scherzer

SportsNation Jim Callis: (2:52 PM ET ) Billingsley, Scherzer, Morales.

I'm anxious to see what Scherzer can actually do. And to get another guy from the 2006 class in the big leagues so I can laugh even more at the Royals for drafting Horchever.

2008-08-20 12:11:54
64.   Eric Stephen
63
Scherzer has already been in the big leagues this season, and done quite well (31 IP, 14/33 BB/K, 2.90 ERA, 156 ERA+, 3.71 FIP)
2008-08-20 12:12:54
65.   underdog
Wow, I just remembered that I'm going to the Dodgers-Giants game up here on Sept 26 with my dad, and that could be a pretty important game. Which has me scared. The Giants and their desperate fans would love nothing more than to knock the Dodgers out of playoff contention.
2008-08-20 12:13:37
66.   Bob Timmermann
65
The Giants had a chance to do that in 2006.

Then Mike Stanton threw a bunch of wild pitches.

2008-08-20 12:14:19
67.   Tripon
Brett (Boston, MA): Love your work Joe! Even though he didn't hit his first homer until last night, Adam Dunn has been extraordinarily effective in the cleanup spot for the DBacks. Isn't it true that his dissenters rely too much on his batting average, and not the tremendous secondary statistics he brings to the table?

SportsNation Joe Morgan: When you put a guy in the cleanup spot, he's there for a reason, to drive in runs, like I was saying earlier. I think Adam Dunn is going to help the DBacks with his presence in the four spot, because they will have to be careful with the guy in front of him. The whole team, including Dunn, strikes out too much, but Dunn makes up for it by getting on base through walks, protecting the guy in front of him, and hitting home runs. It's against the grain of what J.P. Ricciardi said--that he doesn't help your team. I disagree with that, he certainly does, and he'll definitely help Arizona.

And then the world explodes.

2008-08-20 12:17:22
68.   GMac In The 909
67 Speaking of ghostwriters ...
2008-08-20 12:17:38
69.   underdog
66 That's just because I wasn't at that game!

Oh well, I wasn't at the Brian Johnson or Joe Morgan games, either.

2008-08-20 12:18:25
70.   underdog
67/68 - Hah. Yeah I think "Like I was saying earlier" is the only thing Joe Morgan wrote in that response. But I'm sure FJM will have more to say.
2008-08-20 12:21:41
71.   bhsportsguy
62 Rickey Henderson "retired" as a Dodger and thus was the Dodger with the highest career totals in:

Games played, at bats, plate appearances, hits, runs, walks and stolen bases.

2008-08-20 12:23:30
72.   Eric Stephen
66
I was in SF that weekend, but didn't go to the Friday game (I went to the next two). I was at a Sushi place with a friend, and I wore my Dodger hat. When the Dodgers took the lead in the 9th, I clapped my hands and yelled, "Yes!".

This was a small restaurant, and a lot of people turned to look at me. I said, "man, that is great sushi!"

There is a slight chance I will be going to the final two games of the season in SF. I'll be sure to find the DT North crew if I do.

2008-08-20 12:23:47
73.   bhsportsguy
67 Watch out for the next two ESPN games of the week when Jon Miller and Joe Morgan talk about how Manny batting 4th has helped Kent in the 3 spot.

Though Jon Miller should recall that for most of the Bonds/Kent era, Kent batting behind Barry.

2008-08-20 12:24:28
74.   El Lay Dave
62 "...anyone ever wearing a Dodger uniform"

Coaches excluded.

2008-08-20 12:24:33
75.   bhsportsguy
66 And HSC got his best plate appearance in 2006.
2008-08-20 12:24:45
76.   Eric Stephen
71
The "most career hits while in an Expos uniform" will be hard to beat!
2008-08-20 12:25:03
77.   bhsportsguy
75 Whoops, wrong game and year.
2008-08-20 12:25:39
78.   Eric Stephen
75
HSC's best PA of 2006 was in the WBC. I think you're thinking of aught-four.
2008-08-20 12:29:55
79.   Bob Timmermann
And who was the US pitcher who gave up a home run to Choi in the World Baseball Classic?
2008-08-20 12:32:55
80.   regfairfield
The iPhone is the greatest device ever invented.
2008-08-20 12:35:03
81.   cargill06
54 Small sample but, Nomar has a +4 at SS this year
2008-08-20 12:37:51
82.   cargill06
so Manny will be resigned.

Resigned from what? Kind of like how he resigned in Boston?

2008-08-20 12:38:08
83.   Sushirabbit
57
So is number 1 Jeff Kent?
2008-08-20 12:45:04
84.   alex 7
underdog, I'll likely be going to that same game. I'm coming from Oregon, so I'll have to try and get a hold of you sometime to find out about other places of interest in the area.
2008-08-20 12:46:22
85.   bhsportsguy
83 No.

Since no one is really playing and Eric Stephen is already looking it up anyway.

1. Andre Ethier
2. Matt Kemp
3. James Loney
4. Russell Martin
5. Jeff Kent
6. Casey Blake
7. Manny Ramirez

2008-08-20 12:49:16
86.   Gagne55
Something I said got recognized in one of Jon's blog posts. :) Today is a good day.
2008-08-20 13:03:02
87.   bhsportsguy
UCLA cancelled its second football practice today so Norm Chow could get to Dodger Stadium in time to throw out the first pitch.

It is Chinese American Community Night at Dodger Stadium.

(Okay, I kid about the reason why UCLA is cancelling practice)

Kim Ng is also receiving a certificate from the Chinese American Chamber of Commerce.

2008-08-20 13:03:14
88.   Bluebleeder87
the snakes schedule from here on out PO's me but oh well...
2008-08-20 13:07:59
89.   fanerman
Hello.
2008-08-20 13:10:34
90.   Eric Stephen
89
...is it me you're looking for?
2008-08-20 13:10:37
91.   Andrew Shimmin
80- Beware of sexy iPhone, she looks so sweet and kind.
But looks are deceiving, 'cause her love is like strychnine.

Don't give your love, don't give your loving to iPhone.
'Cause if you give her your love, you might as well give it to a spider.

2008-08-20 13:12:42
92.   Andrew Shimmin
90- Awesome.

Also, that's two consecutive non-hair-band musical references at DT. Good work people. We were in a bit of a rut, there, but we'll make it through.

2008-08-20 13:14:18
93.   Jon Weisman
I have just changed my outgoing voicemail message at work, since it is no longer necessary for me to tell people that I will be out of the office through July 21.

If I hadn't remembered to do that soon, I think people would begin to think I was on an 11-month vacation.

2008-08-20 13:17:18
94.   Bluebleeder87
89 90

Oh man. :o)

2008-08-20 13:18:28
95.   Eric Stephen
Is there a definitive list of the best songs from the 1980s? I'm trying to build up my iTunes playlist and I don't have a ton of CDs from that era, especially from the 1- or 2-hit wonders. I'm sure I'm missing some, so I thought I'd ask the group.
2008-08-20 13:19:41
96.   underdog
84 Cool Alex, definitely let me know when it gets closer. underdog8 at gmail dot com

89 Are you back, or still across the Pacific?

2008-08-20 13:22:37
97.   fanerman
90 My honest answer to that perhaps-not-honest question is... "yes. I was looking for you, Eric Stephen."

96 I just got back to my apartment. It was pretty hectic, but very fun. I'm super tired now.

2008-08-20 13:25:20
98.   regfairfield
95 Hungry Like The Wolf?
2008-08-20 13:25:45
99.   bhsportsguy
95 I have songs from Tears for Fears, Spandeau Ballet, Go West, Prince, Madonna, and Lisa Stansfield.
2008-08-20 13:27:01
100.   bhsportsguy
99 I still need to add the Go Gos, more U2 and Springsteen, oh and I forgot Janet Jackson, and a couple Van Halen tunes.
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2008-08-20 13:28:56
101.   El Lay Dave
98 Goes well with your Strawberry Daiquiri.
2008-08-20 13:31:18
102.   autumnlanding
anybody see this from the Dodgers website:

"The Dodgers will host a steroid awareness clinic for young athletes Wednesday from 10 a.m. to 12 p.m. at Dodger Stadium. Clayton Kershaw, Pierre and Gary Bennett will work as instructors with the Dodgers training staff and strength and conditioning coach.

oh the irony

2008-08-20 13:33:02
103.   Jacob L
Oh, oh, oh, can we please talk about 80s music?

My one year old daughter, Sadie, I swear to god, goes into this sort of grooving gyration thing whenever she hears brit/pop/new wave material. I've taken to calling her Sadie-from-the-80s.

I like me some English Beat (and much of the associated spinoff material e.g. General Public). Tell me this doesn't get the toes tapping -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDcZnL2h8ys

I like Psych Furs, Smiths, Duran, New Order, even Frankie Goes to Hollywood.

I don't have an Ipod so I can't tell you what I've got in queue, but I'll be busting some of these artist on my cassette deck for sure.

2008-08-20 13:36:02
104.   regfairfield
Honest answers (note that I am a depressed hipster)

The Smiths - How Soon Is Now
Joy Division - Love Will Tear Us Apart Again
The Cure - Just Like Heaven
DePeche Mode - Personal Jesus

2008-08-20 13:38:59
105.   Jacob Burch
bh, Bob or whoever:

While I wait to buy a scorebook, I'm I'm need of a temporary solution for tonight's game. What were the online printables you guys were recommending?

2008-08-20 13:40:11
106.   Jacob L
104 I am certain that my 12 year old niece, who's parents recently divorced, will have a Robert Smith poster on the ceiling above her bed in 3 years or less.
2008-08-20 13:40:44
107.   Eric Stephen
You guys are awesome. Between you and Wikipedia, I'm remembering a bunch of songs, many of the "Africa" (by Toto) variety.
2008-08-20 13:41:42
108.   El Lay Dave
Elvis Costello.
The Clash - Sandinista!.
Aztec Camera.
Lloyd Cole and the Commotions.
2008-08-20 13:41:52
109.   Jacob L
105 Here's one -

http://www.samplewords.com/pdf/home-baseball-scoresheet.pdf

2008-08-20 13:42:06
110.   Eric Stephen
105
Jacob, there are some downloads here:

http://tinyurl.com/2gd8h7

(Thanks to scareduck for remembering this site on Saturday as well)

2008-08-20 13:42:38
111.   KG16
I always get slightly confused as to what is 80s music and what is early 90s music (for example, I was totally shocked recently to realize that Use Your Illusions I and II were both done in the 90s).

As far as hair bands go, you can't go wrong with Montley Crue, Poison, or GnR. Billy Idol, Sex Pistols, and the other British punk bands were pretty good too.

2008-08-20 13:44:29
112.   Jacob L
111 I graduated high school in 89, so the cutoff for me is very distinct. Appetite for Destruction, 80s, as is GnR Lies. Use Your Illusion(s), 90s.
2008-08-20 13:45:36
113.   regfairfield
If you want some things that were more 80s-ish

Van Halen - Panama
Flock Of Seagulls - I Ran
Ratt - Round And Round
Michael Jackson - Beat It
The Vapors - Turning Japanese
Extreme - Play With Me

2008-08-20 13:46:28
114.   tjdub
Echo and the Bunnymen
Oingo Boingo
2008-08-20 13:47:38
115.   regfairfield
English Beat is also a good choice.
2008-08-20 13:55:42
116.   KG16
113 - I concur entirely on that list.
2008-08-20 13:55:42
117.   underdog
Those are all good suggestions. Eric, if you're looking for a mix of "good" 80s music and cheesier but popular 80s music there are plenty of places to look, including some of the lists people have created on iTunes.

As for me, I still listen to some music from that era (my junior high and high school years) on occasion, including:

The Smiths. The Cure. early U2 (Under a Blood Red Sky, War, etc). Less so "Depressed Mode" as a friend of mine used to call them and New Order but a lot of people still love 'em both. One hit wonders (or more obscure acts) I liked include Icicle Works "Whisper to a Scream", Modern English, loads of Aztec Camera, plus stuff by The Fixx, Blondie, Split Enz + Crowded House, and The Waterboys. Good stuff, Maynard.

Also very early REM, The Pretenders, Elvis Costello, Talking Heads (everything), The Clash, Beastie Boys, Squeeze, The Replacements, Husker Du, okay I'm getting less mainstreamy here...

2008-08-20 13:59:02
118.   Jacob Burch
Africa and two songs by the unmentionable "J" band are
My two gulty 80s pleasures

Being an album sort if guy? In no order,

Jesus & Mary Chain - Psychocandy
Public Enemy - It Take a Nation...
Thriller

2008-08-20 14:00:05
119.   Bluebleeder87
I hope the Dodgers end up at the top of the stairs
2008-08-20 14:01:33
120.   Bluebleeder87
I hope the Dodgers end up at the top of the stairs
2008-08-20 14:03:19
121.   trainwreck
Personal Jesus came out in the 90's, I believe.
2008-08-20 14:04:04
122.   Pedro Astacio
Genesis.
2008-08-20 14:04:39
123.   KG16
I'll throw in License to Ill as an album, some of it doesn't quite hold up, other parts have improved.

Also, in the one hit wonder category: 88 Lines Abut 44 Women by the Nails. WARNING: do not buy the entire album, get only the single.

2008-08-20 14:05:11
124.   KG16
oh, and Permanent Vacation - but that should be a standard of any collection.
2008-08-20 14:06:52
125.   bablue
65,

I think I'm going to all three games in the Giants series and yes they could be really huge (or completely meaningless).

And Giants fans would definitely be estatic to knock us out. The last series in SF I went to the two games where we blew 1-run leads (great luck huh?) and frequently Giants fans yelled at me about how happy they were to beat the Dodgers even though it means nothing for their team.

2008-08-20 14:07:18
126.   trainwreck
80's songs that rule:

New Order-True Faith
Bobby Brown-On Our Own (from Ghostbusters II)
Billy Ocean-Caribbean Queen
Stevie Wonder-Part Time Lover
Phillip Bailey and Phil Collins-Easy Lover
Wham-Careless Whisper
Jermaine Stewart-Don't Have to Take Our Clothes Off
Rockwell-Somebody's Watching Me

Got to love the cheese.

2008-08-20 14:07:52
127.   Icaros
It isn't really the 80s if REO Speedwagon's "Keep On Loving You" isn't readily audible.
2008-08-20 14:09:47
128.   Disabled List
I find the lack of J. Geils Band disturbing.
2008-08-20 14:10:19
129.   trainwreck
Don't forget Love Hate Machine by NIN. That was late 80's. Head Like a Hole!
2008-08-20 14:10:54
130.   Jacob Burch
thanks to the other Jacob and Eric for the sheets.

And add Nick Cave to my shortlist.

2008-08-20 14:13:10
131.   The Trolley Dodger
If you're on iTunes, go check out the iTunes Store and its Essentials section. There are scads and scads of 80s awesomeness available.
2008-08-20 14:15:39
132.   bhsportsguy
126 I don't hate many things but I hate Caribbean Queen.

It probably was the video that did it for me.

Points for picking Phillip Bailey.

2008-08-20 14:19:09
133.   Sushirabbit
How can you leave off the currently appropriate Cult of Personality by Living Color?

I'm a fan of the Vapors Nuclear days, and like Lloyd Cole, and Billy Bragg, but it sounds like your looking for "80s standards'. And I don't think those are (exactly).

2008-08-20 14:21:00
134.   Eric Stephen
"Get Out of My Dreams (And Into My Car)" is a much better Billy Ocean song (but I also like Caribbean Queen).
2008-08-20 14:21:51
135.   El Lay Dave
"Da Da Da" by Trio.
2008-08-20 14:23:31
136.   Icaros
132

We've had some disagreements in the past, but putting down Caribbean Queen is going to place a real chasm between us, bh.

A chasm.

2008-08-20 14:24:44
137.   regfairfield
133 Thought it was the 90s.

If Caribbean Queen gets on there, you might as well just throw on Susudio.

2008-08-20 14:25:08
138.   Bob Timmermann
I fully support bhsportsguy's "Caribbean Queen" stance.
2008-08-20 14:25:15
139.   Sushirabbit
Buggles - Video Killed the Radio Star
Lips Inc - Funky Town
Flying Lizards - Money
throw some Kraftwerk in there maybe some crontroversy from Prince.
2008-08-20 14:25:17
140.   still bevens
Here's an obscure but good one. A song everyones heard before but probably has no idea who its by:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9BpKKjxtmc

Tones on Tail - Go!

2008-08-20 14:27:13
141.   still bevens
140 In the same vein

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HaAOCGb3bw&feature=related

M - Pop Music

Man I need to go back to work.

2008-08-20 14:27:43
142.   Bob Timmermann
Old Friend Matt Herges to the DL. Ryan Speier called up.
2008-08-20 14:31:29
143.   El Lay Dave
I was leaving X and The Blasters to Marty, but he's apparently not around at the moment.
2008-08-20 14:33:28
144.   Sushirabbit
140, 141, kewl. :-)

One more, because its seems so LA to me, Michael Nesmith's Infinite Rider on the Big Dogma, with I suppose "Cruisin'" being the "single". I really like that album, along with Avg Dude Ranch Stash, the vinyl of which got ruined in a flood. Sigh. I've probably thrown away more LP records than most teens today can imagine.

2008-08-20 14:34:50
145.   bhsportsguy
136 Can we agree on something, how about Peter Gabriel.

And Don Henley put out some nice stuff in '80s.

2008-08-20 14:38:03
146.   trainwreck
There is also pre-Mike Patton Faith No More.

We Care A Lot has gotten play recently because of Dirty Jobs.

2008-08-20 14:42:33
147.   Dane Bramage
Oh, please. Doesn't any 80's music list include Dexy's "Come On Eileen" anymore?
2008-08-20 14:43:08
148.   still bevens
Its too bad no recordings exist of the Courtney Love fronted Faith No More.
2008-08-20 14:43:14
149.   Jon Weisman
NPUT
2008-08-20 14:43:53
150.   Dane Bramage
140 I love Tones On Tail, and Love And Rockets. I couldn't get into Bauhaus, though, for some reason.
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2008-08-20 14:58:18
151.   skybluestoday
Re: 108

"Rattlesnakes" !

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