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August 31 Game Chat
2008-08-31 17:04
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

Comments (352)
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2008-08-31 17:08:41
1.   Bluebleeder87
Bradon Webb versus D-Lowe.
2008-08-31 17:09:52
2.   Bluebleeder87
watching the highlights of yesterdays game, Manny Ramirez put on a hitting clinic yesterday.

right on.

2008-08-31 17:10:11
3.   bhsportsguy
ESPN.com is asking what will be higher, Manny and Matty's total bases or Webb's total strikeouts?
2008-08-31 17:10:20
4.   Bob Hendley
I gots Ernesto Jerez (no..nono..nono..no) and Candy here in the DF.
2008-08-31 17:11:39
5.   Bob Hendley
Dre...am Boy!
2008-08-31 17:11:43
6.   trainwreck
Yeah, Ethier!
2008-08-31 17:11:59
7.   Bluebleeder87
OMG!

Ethier just hit one out from Brandon Webb.

1-0 Dodgers.

2008-08-31 17:12:05
8.   Bilshaw
Ethier!!!
2008-08-31 17:12:09
9.   Alex41592
YES! ETHIER!
2008-08-31 17:12:13
10.   Damon
I picked Manny/Kemp. I probably will be wrong
2008-08-31 17:12:19
11.   JRSarno
Awesome HR!
2008-08-31 17:13:10
12.   Bluebleeder87
4

your in Distrito Federal Bob H?

2008-08-31 17:14:09
13.   Bob Hendley
Yep, just got back from the beach in Oaxaca to see my boys in blue on the tube.
2008-08-31 17:14:10
14.   natepurcell
Maybe next year Andre can hit 25 homeruns.
2008-08-31 17:14:27
15.   trainwreck
Manny is not happy.
2008-08-31 17:14:56
16.   Bluebleeder87
Brandon Webb & most pitchers are trying to pitch Manny in...
2008-08-31 17:15:38
17.   Gen3Blue
I didn't know we would have to beat Webb, Arizona, and the Joe Morgan curse all at the same time. I guess I won't even flinch that much if we lose tonight, and might still believe.
2008-08-31 17:16:07
18.   timm
14 Our luck Torre will take a re-newed liking to Pierre in spring training
2008-08-31 17:16:07
19.   Alex41592
14 - 25 isn't exactly far fetched for this season.
2008-08-31 17:16:50
20.   Alex41592
Hit and run with Loney. Thank you!
2008-08-31 17:17:00
21.   Bluebleeder87
13

when I was still running around I met a BEAUTIFUL girl from oaxaca at a club once... I've never been there, is it nice?

2008-08-31 17:17:56
22.   Bob Hendley
14 - He's hit 7 since August 13...
2008-08-31 17:18:08
23.   KG16
given Loney's, er, penchant for hitting into double plays (not entirely his fault), why haven't the Dodgers hit and run with him more like they just did?

If Manny doesn't run there, it's a 6-4-3 double play.

2008-08-31 17:18:32
24.   natepurcell
19

You're right, its not far-fetched at all. I just think Andre is going to end up around 22 though.

2008-08-31 17:18:39
25.   fordprefect
Way to break it up crazy eyes
2008-08-31 17:19:15
26.   KG16
Joe Morgan drinking game material: After being a young player before, [Drew] has made a big step.
2008-08-31 17:19:57
27.   Bluebleeder87
dang! 30 steals for Matty. good for 6th in the NL.

man, it would be cool if he could become a 30/30 guy.

2008-08-31 17:20:26
28.   fordprefect
Yow!
2008-08-31 17:20:34
29.   Bluebleeder87
yes!YES! YES!

4-0 DODGERS.

Casey Blake just wen't DEEP!

2008-08-31 17:20:35
30.   JRSarno
YESYYSEYSKYESKYEYYSYSEYS!!!! (sorry, but damn that was great!)
2008-08-31 17:20:46
31.   KG16
Do not doubt the power of the beard.
2008-08-31 17:20:50
32.   trainwreck
Take that, Webb!
2008-08-31 17:20:51
33.   Bilshaw
Blake King!!
2008-08-31 17:21:10
34.   Alex41592
YES! I JUST SCARED EVERYONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD! CASEY BLAKE!
2008-08-31 17:21:24
35.   Bluebleeder87
don't blow it for us Lowe!!
2008-08-31 17:21:25
36.   Bob Hendley
21 Oaxaca City is one of the nicest towns in Mexico and the beaches are great. Pto. Escondido, where we are building a house, is an international surfing spot. Primo, as they say. Lots and lots of the locals go to the States. The women are divine.
2008-08-31 17:21:31
37.   Frip
Steiner's going crazy like aliens just landed on the field.
2008-08-31 17:21:43
38.   thinkblue88
woooohoooo hooooooooooo!!!
2008-08-31 17:22:04
39.   Bob Hendley
Blake me, shake me!
2008-08-31 17:22:08
40.   Bluebleeder87
that's pretty nice also ESPECIALLY cause he had a bad week the other time.
2008-08-31 17:22:20
41.   fordprefect
Has Casey Blake been nicknamed here yet? My son would like to submit Lumberjack.
2008-08-31 17:22:55
42.   Alex41592
I literally screamed like a crazy man. Steiner did as well and how could you not? This is a dream beginning for the Dodgers.
2008-08-31 17:23:16
43.   KG16
37 - the Dodgers were caught in the invasion of the body snatchers, so totally acceptable.
2008-08-31 17:23:18
44.   dianagramr
They're playing a muzak version of "Dancing in the Dark" in Chase Field now .... hmmm.
2008-08-31 17:23:26
45.   timm
41 Like it
2008-08-31 17:24:25
46.   KG16
41 - there's Zoot the muppet. I'd suggested Event Horizon in the days of the black hole. and of course there's The Beard. But no consensus just yet.
2008-08-31 17:24:31
47.   bhsportsguy
Derek Lowe, I hope he has one of good games in him.
2008-08-31 17:24:55
48.   Lexinthedena
41 MSTI calls him "The Most Interesting Man in The World"...I would go for The Brawny Towl Man, or Chuck Norris...

In fact, I am asking that we call Casey Blake Chuck Norris.

2008-08-31 17:25:02
49.   Bluebleeder87
I really thought Webb was gonna make it hard for us to score... come on D-Lowe you got an actual lead to woik with!
2008-08-31 17:25:42
50.   bhsportsguy
After the top of the first.

Webb - 1 K
Manny and Matty - 0 TB (2 runs scored)

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2008-08-31 17:26:01
51.   Bluebleeder87
37

hehehehe, I can picture him now.

2008-08-31 17:26:05
52.   Bob Hendley
That was great, I got to hear two: A lo profundo... y ¡no... nono, nono, no...! ¡Dígale que no a esa pelota!"
2008-08-31 17:26:10
53.   Linkmeister
Oaxaca:
http://www.oaxacamio.com/oaxacainfo.htm
2008-08-31 17:27:14
54.   Gen3Blue
Notice how Ethiers HR's often seem to come at useful times or vs. tough pitchers?
Anywho, it would behoove the D's offense to try and make Webb face Manny a few more times. I hope some of are guys have a strategy for sinkers.
2008-08-31 17:28:22
55.   Gen3Blue
How come Joe never has these optimistic thoughts.
2008-08-31 17:29:48
56.   Bob Hendley
53 - And they love their baseball and their own Guerreros de Oaxaca. Vinny Castillo and Geronimo Gil are from there.
2008-08-31 17:32:05
57.   Bluebleeder87
oh man, did you guys see that! perfect!
2008-08-31 17:32:07
58.   thinkblue88
yess..russ!
2008-08-31 17:32:33
59.   Alex41592
Nice throw Russ!
2008-08-31 17:32:33
60.   bhsportsguy
32 No one answered my question on BRO, so I will post it here for you.

So my guess we will see the following tomorrow:

RB - Aundre Dean
WR - Tyler Embree, Nelson Rosario, Antwon Moutra
TE- Cory Harkey
DE - Datone Jones
LB - Sean Westgate
CB - Aaron Hester
S - Rahim Moore

Redshirting at this time:

QB - Nick Crissman (may be a medical redshirt)
RB - Derrick Coleman (may be a medical redshirt), Milton Knox, Jonathan Franklin
WR - Jerry Johnson
OL - Connor Bradford, Jeff Baca (may be a medical redshirt)
DE - Damien Holmes
LB - Patrick Larimore
S - E.J. Woods
CB - Tony Dye
P/K - Jeff Locke

Hopefully won't play tomorrow but will be available:
QB - Kevin Prince

2008-08-31 17:32:52
61.   Bob Hendley
Nice tag by the Solution, bringing it down.
2008-08-31 17:32:55
62.   fordprefect
{48}

Can we just shorten that to TMIMITW?

2008-08-31 17:33:47
63.   Alex41592
Lowe doesn't have good stuff yet. Two hard hit balls to the outfield.
2008-08-31 17:35:13
64.   trainwreck
60
Seeing Westgate would be a very bad sign I think.

I thought Hester would get playing time, but everyone seems to think he will red-shirt. I am not the biggest fan of zone coverage in the secondary. I like that Hester is a one-on-one guy.

2008-08-31 17:35:36
65.   Bluebleeder87
to add insult to injury D-Lowe gets a hit as well.
2008-08-31 17:36:13
66.   Bilshaw
lowe hit.some more run plz!
2008-08-31 17:37:43
67.   Alex41592
Perhaps Webb has shoulder problems and is playing through it.
2008-08-31 17:38:05
68.   Bluebleeder87
you guys know if Webb also tires at the end of the season?
2008-08-31 17:38:17
69.   Bluebleeder87
I know Haren does for sure.
2008-08-31 17:38:27
70.   Bilshaw
Webb hide his injury.
2008-08-31 17:39:20
71.   Bob Hendley
Candy is old school, he thinks that Martin should bat second and that JP is the only one on the roster who should be leading off with Rafa out. He concedes, however, that there is no room for him in the line-up.
2008-08-31 17:39:43
72.   Alex41592
68 - Webb's numbers get BETTER as the season goes along.
2008-08-31 17:41:27
73.   Bluebleeder87
make 'em pay for it Loney (they don't wanna pitch to Manny Ramirez) bases juiced & one out.
2008-08-31 17:41:44
74.   Alex41592
Loney 7 for 16 vs. Webb.
2008-08-31 17:41:47
75.   Bluebleeder87
72

not today though...

2008-08-31 17:41:49
76.   fordprefect
Maybe we'll get lucky and Melvin will let Webb "try to work it out" for another inning or two.... :D
2008-08-31 17:42:28
77.   thinkblue88
oh Sloney....
2008-08-31 17:42:31
78.   Alex41592
We can deliver a knockout blow in the second inning.
2008-08-31 17:43:02
79.   Bilshaw
GIDP Machine loney
2008-08-31 17:43:08
80.   ucladodger
What a feeble swing. You need to try to drive the ball in that situation, not just try to make weak contact against a sinkerballer. Pathetic at bat.
2008-08-31 17:43:13
81.   whodat807
Bases loaded + Brandon Webb's sinker + James Loney = double play. Oh well.
2008-08-31 17:43:19
82.   trainwreck
I like the let's have Loney hit lead-off or second idea.
2008-08-31 17:46:40
83.   Gen3Blue
Why bat Kemp as low as fifth. Trying not to look like we are piling on?
2008-08-31 17:48:45
84.   Alex41592
Ethier and Loney have great numbers against Webb. Kemp will probably bat cleanup against lefties.
2008-08-31 17:48:49
85.   Bluebleeder87
looking up D-Lowes #'s against Adam Dunn:

PA - 12
AB - 6
hits - 1

ob% 583
slg 167
ops 750

2008-08-31 17:50:06
86.   fordprefect
Come on Lumberjack!
2008-08-31 17:50:07
87.   Jon Weisman
80 - He was not trying to make feeble contact.
2008-08-31 17:53:59
88.   Alex41592
Nice swing by Matt.
2008-08-31 17:54:18
89.   Bluebleeder87
I like the way Kemp went the other way with that hit off of B-Webb.
2008-08-31 17:54:31
90.   Alex41592
Kemp needs to be going here.
2008-08-31 17:55:06
91.   whodat807
Bison Speed.

I can see a 40-40 season in Matt's future.

2008-08-31 17:55:19
92.   Alex41592
Great pitch to steal on.
2008-08-31 17:55:29
93.   Bluebleeder87
the ESPN crew is talking about how far the ball that Blake hit.

there right, it went really far.

2008-08-31 17:56:08
94.   Alex41592
Productive.
2008-08-31 17:56:17
95.   timm
Stupid fans
2008-08-31 17:56:57
96.   ucladodger
Great manufacturing of a run. Terrific job by all 3 guys.
2008-08-31 17:57:17
97.   Bluebleeder87
you can DeWitt Blake!
2008-08-31 17:57:22
98.   Bilshaw
Bison Speed= 1 score
2008-08-31 17:57:25
99.   Alex41592
Picture perfect execution.
2008-08-31 17:57:56
100.   Bluebleeder87
Webb ain't foolin' anybody if Berroa gets a hit.
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2008-08-31 17:57:59
101.   whodat807
Even Berroa's getting in on the action. Webb looks awful today.
2008-08-31 17:57:59
102.   timm
Who needs Nomar
2008-08-31 17:58:23
103.   ucladodger
87

Do you disagree on how feeble a swing that was? That was a contact swing. Of course he didnt want to hit a slow hopper to short, but that was a swing where you can do any type of damage or even lift the ball.

2008-08-31 17:59:11
104.   trainwreck
Webb can't even throw strikes to Lowe.
2008-08-31 17:59:28
105.   Bluebleeder87
it almost looks like Webb is pitching around D-Lowe no? o.k. that was a strike...
2008-08-31 18:03:06
106.   timm
Sounds like ESPN has already picked The Dbacks to wing the division
2008-08-31 18:04:24
107.   Bluebleeder87
any word on Penny if he will come back?
2008-08-31 18:04:25
108.   Jon Weisman
103 - I felt he got fooled/jammed.

I find some of your comments very insightful, but others seem to include an expectation that hitters should smash the ball every at-bat. Baseball isn't that simple, and sometimes the pitchers just beat the hitters.

2008-08-31 18:04:45
109.   Bluebleeder87
I like that Saito & furcal MIGHT come back.
2008-08-31 18:05:01
110.   thinkblue88
Joe Morgan is insistent in consistently using the word inconsistent.
2008-08-31 18:05:57
111.   Bluebleeder87
Dodgers 5 Snakes Nada! (Vinn Scully style)
2008-08-31 18:06:28
112.   Alex41592
Bad news for those wanting to see Brett Tomko this upcoming series. He's being DFA'd along with Iguchi tonight.
2008-08-31 18:07:45
113.   fordprefect
110

A lot of sibilance there; appropriate for a Snakes game

2008-08-31 18:08:58
114.   timm
109 I don't think Furcal would help.
2008-08-31 18:09:02
115.   Gagne55
warning track power :)
2008-08-31 18:10:23
116.   Gagne55
114 Furcal isn't better than Berroa?
2008-08-31 18:10:40
117.   sporky
A couple belated squee!s are in order.
2008-08-31 18:10:41
118.   Alex41592
Lowe got lucky. Drew owns him and just missed that.
2008-08-31 18:11:32
119.   ucladodger
108

It's really about approach in situations like that. Obviously I know how hard this game is, probably more than most on this site. Do I expect guys to make great contact, swing at nothing but strikes, and have everybody be Albert Pujols? No, but i do expect guys to adjust their approach according to situation. Here is James with the bases loaded, 1 out, and up in the count. You just cant take a swing like that in that situation, fooled or not. I would be totally fine if he took a good cut and hit a 1 hop smash to 2nd for a double play. Getting fooled/jammed in that situation is just really poor hitting.

2008-08-31 18:11:51
120.   Gen3Blue
This is pretty obvious. The next couple of inning everyone makes Webb throw at least 3 pitches. Then he's in trouble by the 6th, and we know about Arizona's late inning pitching.
2008-08-31 18:12:20
121.   whodat807
I'm trying to decide who I'd rather listen to, Joe Morgan or the chuckleheads who announce for FSN Arizona.
2008-08-31 18:13:15
122.   whodat807
Nice looking hit for Russell there.
2008-08-31 18:13:50
123.   Humma Kavula
I'm not sure what team we're watching here, bu they seem pretty good. And their blue uniforms are sharp!
2008-08-31 18:13:56
124.   Gen3Blue
Nice at bat by Martin. 8 pitches and three more batters to face.
2008-08-31 18:15:12
125.   bhsportsguy
Vinny telling Jon Miller about T.J. Simers.
2008-08-31 18:15:14
126.   Gagne55
Snyder really dropped the ball on that one.
2008-08-31 18:15:40
127.   timm
119 I agree. Much rather have him swing from the heels then be undecided and hit a weak roller
2008-08-31 18:15:51
128.   bhsportsguy
Matty gleaning knowledge from Juan Pierre.
2008-08-31 18:16:04
129.   whodat807
Um, if Joe Torre was such a good manager, wouldn't the Dodgers have turned it around before their terrible losing streak hit eight - EIGHT! - games? In late August, no less?

Oh, Joe Morgan, you're full of insightful nuggets.

2008-08-31 18:16:43
130.   Jon Weisman
119 - Nothing personal, but note how your worst-case scenario included the word "smash." I stand by my comment.
2008-08-31 18:17:18
131.   ucladodger
This is really fun.
2008-08-31 18:17:18
132.   Humma Kavula
That'll work, Andre!! Wooooo!
2008-08-31 18:17:32
133.   Gagne55
Andre Ethier is a pretty cool guy. Eh hits for extra bases and doesn't afraid of anything.
2008-08-31 18:17:35
134.   Bluebleeder87
i don't know if anybody will agree with me but these games must be a HUGE PSYCH booster for the boys in blue, are they starting to believe again?
2008-08-31 18:17:50
135.   Alex41592
This is incredible.
2008-08-31 18:18:12
136.   sporky
Poor Brandon.

>:)

2008-08-31 18:18:13
137.   Gagne55
Another IBB to Manny.
2008-08-31 18:18:16
138.   Bluebleeder87
127

same here.

2008-08-31 18:18:23
139.   whodat807
Manny being Barry.
2008-08-31 18:18:37
140.   trainwreck
Nice to have a good showing on national television.
2008-08-31 18:18:42
141.   thinkblue88
lets keep it going. no mercy!!
2008-08-31 18:18:59
142.   Alex41592
I would bunt with Loney here. Not because of the DP scenario but to put runners at 2nd and 3rd for Kemp.
2008-08-31 18:19:14
143.   Bluebleeder87
there scare of Manny Ramirez & you know what, I would too.
2008-08-31 18:19:24
144.   timm
Manny is starting to look like Bonds, Barry Bonds
2008-08-31 18:20:07
145.   Bluebleeder87
I'd really like to see Loney swing hard right here.
2008-08-31 18:20:32
146.   bhsportsguy
142 6-0, no bunting.
2008-08-31 18:20:38
147.   Alex41592
But up 6 runs why give up an out. So either way.
2008-08-31 18:21:30
148.   fanerman
Andre's got his power stroke.
2008-08-31 18:22:25
149.   Bluebleeder87
you know what though, Loney has a sweet swing, I don't think he can swing hard even if he wanted to.
2008-08-31 18:22:34
150.   Gagne55
Did Miller just say "Manny Rodriguez"?
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2008-08-31 18:22:59
151.   Alex41592
Torre being Lasorda.
2008-08-31 18:23:04
152.   Humma Kavula
A strikeout is just one out.
2008-08-31 18:23:04
153.   Bluebleeder87
it's o.k. Loney at least it wasn't a DP.
2008-08-31 18:23:05
154.   Gagne55
At least Loney didn't DP there.
2008-08-31 18:23:06
155.   bhsportsguy
James got fooled there.
2008-08-31 18:23:18
156.   superbas
stupid hit and run, forced loney to swing at ball 3 2-1.
2008-08-31 18:23:23
157.   ucladodger
130

Who said that was my worst-case scenario? I would actually consider that a good scenario, even with a bad result. Worst case scenario is an at bat like he displayed, with indecision and a poor approach. The result, to me, is less important than the "journey" because in this crazy game, one the ball leaves your bat, you have no control over the situation. I look for players to execute the best they can in the instance that they control, and whatever happens afterwards is out of their control. James' AB wasn't executed very well, and I'm pretty sure he would tell you the same thing.

2008-08-31 18:24:24
158.   Bluebleeder87
i remember Reggie Jackson calling Wolly Joyners swing as 'sweet'
2008-08-31 18:25:33
159.   Alex41592
Hey, 2nd and 3rd for Kemp.
2008-08-31 18:25:53
160.   ucladodger
Give him a hit
2008-08-31 18:26:00
161.   natepurcell
Me thinks game is over..
2008-08-31 18:26:01
162.   Bluebleeder87
8 - zip Dodgers.
2008-08-31 18:26:05
163.   JRSarno
Can we save some of these runs for tomorrow please?
2008-08-31 18:26:05
164.   timm
Is kent playing 3rd for the Dbacks?
2008-08-31 18:26:19
165.   Alex41592
Pinch me! This is ridiculous!
2008-08-31 18:26:22
166.   Humma Kavula
What was that?! I'll take it! Wooooo!

The look on Kemp's face is, "I got away with one there."

2008-08-31 18:27:09
167.   thinkblue88
yeahoo! keep it going guys
2008-08-31 18:27:17
168.   Bluebleeder87
i was gonna say, when can we call a game a laugher, like how many runs are needed...
2008-08-31 18:27:40
169.   Marty
That's baseball for ya. We lose to Davis, beat Haren and pound Webb.
2008-08-31 18:27:56
170.   Gagne55
This is starting to look like the "Mark Grace takes the mound" game.
2008-08-31 18:27:59
171.   Bilshaw
Clutch Error Reynolds!.woo hoo
2008-08-31 18:28:25
172.   Gagne55
170 forgot to include the ":)"
2008-08-31 18:28:34
173.   Bluebleeder87
4 days ago if somebody would have told me this was gonna be the out come of the series, I would have been skeptical.
2008-08-31 18:28:42
174.   thinkblue88
169.
Vinny made mention of that last night.
2008-08-31 18:28:46
175.   bhsportsguy
We could see Pierre go in for Manny tonight.
2008-08-31 18:28:51
176.   timm
Not a laugher yet
2008-08-31 18:29:06
177.   Gagne55
168 Can't spell slaughter without laughter.
2008-08-31 18:29:55
178.   Bluebleeder87
171

i've seen Reynolds make an error similar to that not to long ago, clutch error no less.

2008-08-31 18:30:15
179.   Gagne55
I wonder if Webb is hurt.
2008-08-31 18:31:04
180.   Jon Weisman
157 - I'm not saying it was executed well. I'm saying that the pitcher plays a part.

Look at your original comment. You said Loney tried to make weak contact. That's what I'm arguing with.

2008-08-31 18:32:19
181.   Bluebleeder87
I don't know but Adam Dunn doesn't scare me.
2008-08-31 18:32:51
182.   timm
If Berroa gets a hit here, it's a laugher
2008-08-31 18:32:52
183.   Marty
174 Interesting. Last night was the only game this year, I think, that I did not watch any or follow any on Gameday. I didn't know the result until I opened up the paper this morning. How old school is that?
2008-08-31 18:33:27
184.   sporky
WE: 98%
2008-08-31 18:34:21
185.   ucladodger
180

I guess we'll just agree to disagree on this.

2008-08-31 18:34:27
186.   timm
184 What's a "paper"?
2008-08-31 18:34:47
187.   bhsportsguy
This is a long time for Derek Lowe to sit around. The Dodgers have batted around, and will send the lineup around for its 4th trip in the next inning.
2008-08-31 18:35:04
188.   timm
I mean 183
2008-08-31 18:35:05
189.   Bilshaw
Worry wart.
2008-08-31 18:35:47
190.   Marty
186 That joke cuts a little close :-)
2008-08-31 18:37:32
191.   timm
190 Oops, I forgot where I was.
2008-08-31 18:37:56
192.   Alex41592
It's been 28 minutes since Lowe's last pitch.
2008-08-31 18:38:17
193.   Gen3Blue
I hate to mention it, but we still have more than a half game to go. I hope the coaching staff knows this.
2008-08-31 18:38:20
194.   bhsportsguy
So you have Lowe facing Haren, Billingsley against Webb and Maddux vs. Johnson next weekend.
2008-08-31 18:39:00
195.   berkowit28
Morgan said (on national TV) "Webb is facing better hitters tonight" (than vs. Padres). Well, hard not to be better than Padres but it was said with respect. You don't hear that all that often.
2008-08-31 18:39:37
196.   Marty
191 Actually I'm just playing with you. My philosophy is no joke is too personal, or too soon.
2008-08-31 18:42:35
197.   timm
196 I need to remember the profession of the folks that put this together and pay more respect under the current conditions of the newspaper industry.
2008-08-31 18:43:05
198.   bhsportsguy
Is everyone watching the Weather Channel now?
2008-08-31 18:44:01
199.   Jon Weisman
185 - If we have to agree to disagree on the issue of whether Loney tried to fail, then I guess that's what we have to do.
2008-08-31 18:44:04
200.   bhsportsguy
197 If anyone can take a joke about his profession, its Marty.

Nice inning by Lowe.

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2008-08-31 18:50:28
201.   Bob Timmermann
You know what I hate? People in your apartment building who take over your assigned parking spot after you've been gone for a few days.

People with BMWs shouldn't be parking space squatters.

I believe I have the legal right to set their car aflame.

Or I could just track down the person and ask them to move it.

2008-08-31 18:51:15
202.   trainwreck
Or track them down and set them aflame.
2008-08-31 18:51:17
203.   DodgerBakers
Manny! I thought you were perfect!
2008-08-31 18:51:49
204.   timm
201 I have a gallon of gas in my garage.
2008-08-31 18:51:49
205.   berkowit28
185 I'm not sure you're really paying attention to what Jon is saying. It's not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing. Check your original comment - go back and take a look. You really did say that Loney was trying to hit weakly. Maybe you didn't mean to say that, forgot you said it,or that Jon is being too literal. But you haven't acknowledged that you said it, and that you're trying to have a different conversation. First acknowledge Jon's point.
2008-08-31 18:53:07
206.   Tripon
Maddux vs. Johnson is the battle of the old folks home.
2008-08-31 18:53:50
207.   bhsportsguy
201 Wasn't your cat supposed to be on the job?
2008-08-31 18:55:32
208.   Bluebleeder87
can you guys imagine playing tennis against Clark.
2008-08-31 18:55:41
209.   fanerman
Turn that DP Blake!
2008-08-31 18:56:10
210.   Tripon
D'Backs try to kill Lowe with the baseball bat because they know Lowe is a vampire and they can't beat him with scoring runs.
2008-08-31 18:57:25
211.   Bluebleeder87
D-Lowe is on...
2008-08-31 18:58:11
212.   Sam DC
Wow.

The Nationals have won six games in a row, including today when they were down in the 8th and yesterday when it took a 2 out bases loaded walk in extras.

The Dodgers' playoff hopes live.

2008-08-31 18:59:03
213.   DodgerBakers
I feel pretty good about the rest of the season and our playoff hopes if we can beat the Dbacks tonight. Lots of games against SF, SD, and PIT. Might be able to make that work for us, especially since the DBacks have 6 against STL.
2008-08-31 18:59:56
214.   bhsportsguy
212 Jim Bowden lives for another year.
2008-08-31 19:05:27
216.   Jon Weisman
Despite appearances, I'm actually quite enjoying tonight's game.

That being said, in regards to Tripon's comment at 215 - are you kidding me?

2008-08-31 19:06:13
217.   Sam DC
Joe Morgan after Clark's drop: "Oooh Boy."
2008-08-31 19:07:13
218.   bhsportsguy
216 I thought about it for a second and said to myself, hmmm.
2008-08-31 19:07:17
219.   whodat807
I'm always sad when I miss the controversial comments.
2008-08-31 19:08:15
220.   Tripon
Er, my bad. I'll stay clear to comments referring to 80 movies and jeri curls for a while.
2008-08-31 19:08:43
221.   bhsportsguy
Again, someone can correct me, but Manny doesn't seem to break a lot of bats.
2008-08-31 19:11:23
222.   fanerman
Thank Dunn for that single.
2008-08-31 19:11:30
223.   Tripon
Blake DeWitt is awesome.

Adam Dunn is a poor fielder.

2008-08-31 19:11:55
224.   trainwreck
They did not get him for his defensive ability.

Or lack thereof.

2008-08-31 19:15:18
225.   Jon Weisman
220 - I'm not finding that reflects much understanding of what was wrong with 215.
2008-08-31 19:15:20
226.   Bob Timmermann
In the Dick's Sporting Goods commercials, the runners are depicted as going through Downtown L.A. and then ending up by a foggy lighthouse.

That would be a very long run.

2008-08-31 19:17:54
227.   Bob Timmermann
Jason Varitek?

Jason Varitek?

2008-08-31 19:18:29
228.   Jacob Burch
ALERT

Bob Carpenter has emailed me with much thanks. I should be able to catch the last week of the season with my brand new TV book.

You may stand down.

2008-08-31 19:19:46
229.   Vaudeville Villain
227

Seriously, what the heck? We're going to move MArtin of catcher so we can go after Jason freaking Varitek? And Gammons is referencing our coaches as actually talking seriously about this?

2008-08-31 19:20:06
230.   Jacob Burch
I'm not in the room with the TV but I think I just heard "teams on the east care more as fans," or some such. I'm going to go punch something.
2008-08-31 19:20:29
231.   Bob Timmermann
Jason Varitek?

Jason Varitek?

Not a double post.

2008-08-31 19:20:30
232.   Alex41592
I am so glad I'm listening to Steiner and Monday over ESPN.
2008-08-31 19:20:31
233.   natepurcell
I want to see Elbert pitch.
2008-08-31 19:20:56
234.   Bob Timmermann
230
Morgan is giving Gammons a bit of grief about that.
2008-08-31 19:21:45
235.   Jacob Burch
I can usually stand ESPN because I really like (gary sheffield reference) Jon Miller, and sometimes he can make up for Joe Morgan.

Not right now.

2008-08-31 19:22:34
236.   Bob Timmermann
The Dodgers have to stop making the Dbacks use extra outs.
2008-08-31 19:22:46
237.   natepurcell
Blake's beard is so rugged he wants to get 4 outs in an inning instead of just 3.
2008-08-31 19:22:54
238.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
If that $20 bill of a Boston shill were in front of me now I'd be tempted to show him some west coast passion.
2008-08-31 19:23:13
239.   bhsportsguy
235 See, Bob was just out yesterday.
2008-08-31 19:23:26
240.   thinkblue88
haha, that was cool..
2008-08-31 19:23:48
241.   Bob Timmermann
Gammons talking about the NL West seemed about as strange as watching the Cal football game last night and hearing Ron Franklin call the game.

I didn't think Ron Franklin was allowed out of the SEC or the Big 12.

2008-08-31 19:23:57
242.   Alex41592
Well that was great.
2008-08-31 19:24:22
243.   trainwreck
238
lol nice handle.
2008-08-31 19:25:12
244.   Ken Noe
What I learned this inning:

1. Gammons is mad at "passionless" LA for taking Manny.
2. Martin is out third baseman of the future.
3. Morgan chats with Pierre.
4. Blake believes in the fourth out.

2008-08-31 19:25:13
245.   underdog
A somewhat belated, redundant and all-encompassing "Squeee!" from the Russian River.

Look forward to catching more of this one in the archives tomorrow. (Hopefully they won't collapse in the final innings in historic fashion.)

Nice to see DeWitt contributing -- and much more on defense than Kent, needless to say. Look forward to seeing some of the callups in action, I hope, this coming week, too.

2008-08-31 19:25:46
246.   underdog
244 On the other hand, maybe I don't need to watch this one in the archives, if that's an indication...
2008-08-31 19:26:57
247.   natepurcell
Yay, Scooter is coming in!
2008-08-31 19:27:26
248.   Bob Timmermann
Rule 8 prevents me from saying the name of the Boston catcher again.

If I were wearing a monocle, it would have fallen off my face and into my cup of tea.

That is, if I had been drinking tea.

2008-08-31 19:27:39
249.   Mariano Duncan Sheik
243

Thanks, not sure anyone would get the obscure reference

2008-08-31 19:29:05
250.   trainwreck
239
Tyler Lamb's commitment was just made official.
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2008-08-31 19:30:52
251.   Gen3Blue
What has the Dodgers offense done in the second half of this game? Better bat Pierre for Manny.
2008-08-31 19:31:20
252.   Humma Kavula
Delgado? MVP?
2008-08-31 19:32:10
253.   Bob Timmermann
Carlos Delgado and Geovany Soto for MVP!

And another monocle breaks.

2008-08-31 19:32:55
254.   Gen3Blue
I hope Lowe goes a few more. he is good tonight and doesn't wear himself out.
2008-08-31 19:33:45
255.   thinkblue88
sweeney already hit for him. well,not hit, but he took a bat to the plate for him.
2008-08-31 19:34:19
256.   Humma Kavula
253 The question is: how many players would be more worthy MVP choices than Delgado? 10? 15? 20? 25? More?
2008-08-31 19:35:15
257.   scareduck
My. Well, here we are with the game practically over, and the Dodgers are putting a beatdown on the Snakes. Reporting from the 18th floor of the Palmer House in Chicago's Loop...
2008-08-31 19:35:48
258.   Alex41592
Pierre in for Manny.
2008-08-31 19:37:05
259.   scareduck
Scott Elbert in his first ML appearance.
2008-08-31 19:38:01
260.   trainwreck
K em up, Elbert.
2008-08-31 19:38:28
261.   trainwreck
259
Second, he pitched on Friday.
2008-08-31 19:38:51
262.   Gen3Blue
Lowe had a shutout. That certainly wasn't making for a very exciting game.
2008-08-31 19:38:56
263.   trainwreck
Balls.
2008-08-31 19:39:02
264.   scareduck
And so much for the shutout. 8-1 Snakes.
2008-08-31 19:39:18
265.   fracule
244 Did Gammon's call the Dodgers passionless? That's like when Al Franken called them the most right-wing team in the history of baseball. They are not speaking from their mouths when say things like that.
2008-08-31 19:39:27
266.   Humma Kavula
Sorry 'bout that, Mr. Elbert. That's gonna happen sometimes.
2008-08-31 19:39:29
267.   scareduck
261 - must have misheard Jon Miller.
2008-08-31 19:39:42
268.   thinkblue88
Kuo, Kershaw and Elbert, hard throwing lefties. Even Biemel throws 88-90.
2008-08-31 19:39:57
269.   thinkblue88
oops.
2008-08-31 19:40:42
270.   scareduck
265 - Franken was probably thinking about Garvey when he said that.
2008-08-31 19:40:52
271.   Bilshaw
Elbert, great breaking ball stuff
2008-08-31 19:42:12
272.   Humma Kavula
The Official Humma Kavula Review of the Play Says:

Andy LaRoche was probably gonna be safe, but sure, why not, call it an error and give CC the no-hitter.

2008-08-31 19:42:39
273.   trainwreck
He K'd em up!

Just with a bit of a hiccup.

2008-08-31 19:42:50
274.   natepurcell
Any good explanation for why Elbert pitches solely out of the stretch?
2008-08-31 19:42:59
275.   scareduck
Dilbert. Dogbert. Catbert. Elbert.
2008-08-31 19:43:36
276.   fracule
265 I just can't stand when people say stuff like that without some sort of clarification.
2008-08-31 19:44:04
277.   Bilshaw
We find another lefty kuo.
2008-08-31 19:44:46
278.   Ken Noe
What's worse about Gammons is that he backed off after Morgan defended the West Coast.
2008-08-31 19:45:11
279.   whodat807
Wow, last year Dane Cook was the "There's only one October" MLB front man, and this year it's Jeff Foxworthy. They really have the market cornered on irritating comedians.
2008-08-31 19:45:33
280.   Humma Kavula
The Official Humma Kavula Review of the Ad Campaign Says:

The "Blogger" theme of the October ads was not my favorite to start with, but was OK so long as it was giving work to that guy who plays the third wheel on "Reaper."

Replace that guy with Jeff Foxworthy and all of a sudden the whole thing makes no sense and I want to claw out my eyes.

2008-08-31 19:46:37
281.   fracule
278 I think we should ask Jeff Kent what he thinks of Peter Gammons. I bet the answer would be quite entertaining.
2008-08-31 19:47:22
282.   Bilshaw
clarification?. Elbert has a good plus fastball with great movement. He sports a plus slider and pretty good curve. He's got great stuff, especially for a lefty.
2008-08-31 19:47:52
283.   trainwreck
280
I concur.
2008-08-31 19:48:34
284.   Johnson
So Elbert has recorded 5 outs in the major leagues, and they have all been strikeouts. With one walk and one HR, opposing hitters do not have a BABIP because there have been no ball in play.
2008-08-31 19:50:09
285.   natepurcell
284

3TO pitcher!

2008-08-31 19:51:19
286.   Humma Kavula
The thing that's really getting me is that "There's Only One October" doesn't make any sense at all. There are many Octobers. In fact, one of the most well-known phrases in the baseball lexicon is "Wait till next year" -- hey, ya got us this year, but hope springs eternal and next year we'll be there in October.

There's only one October? I'll take any October you wanna give me, thanks.

2008-08-31 19:51:46
287.   Gen3Blue
Hey, it is historical when you can hear uh---people? like Gammons and Morgan at the same time.
2008-08-31 19:52:29
288.   Humma Kavula
287 People? They ain't people. They are shimmering, glowing stars in the baseball firmament.
2008-08-31 19:57:14
289.   sporky
286 I'm just grateful that I don't have to see/hear Dane Cook, the anthropomorphized genital wart.
2008-08-31 19:57:17
290.   Bob Timmermann
Peter Gammons: "I have a question for you Derek, but can you phrase it in the form of a Boston Red Sox statement?"
2008-08-31 19:58:19
291.   Gen3Blue
If the Dodgers can keep a few of the good looking youngsters starting, they could be in the shape the Rays are. The trouble is once they get a taste a big league money and per Diem, they want to be relievers.
2008-08-31 19:58:22
292.   trainwreck
289
lol
2008-08-31 20:00:28
293.   Humma Kavula
Oh, Joe, do not bring up the Maury-Wills-for-HOF argument again.

You can love Maury, but that doesn't make him HOF material.

2008-08-31 20:02:10
294.   Humma Kavula
No! Stop it! YOU'RE REALLY BRINGING UP MAURY WILLS'S MVP AWARD?!?!
2008-08-31 20:02:57
295.   bhsportsguy
293 Who deserves to be in the baseball HOF is the most pointless of arguments, it wouldn't bother me one way or the other.

Bob, did Joe just diss Frank Robinson (he was probably thinking of Jackie Robinson.)

2008-08-31 20:04:48
296.   old dodger fan
293 Even if you think Wills doesn't belong in the HOF why object to someone making the case that he does? I loved Wills and I like to hear people say good things about him.
2008-08-31 20:07:24
297.   oshea2002
I didn't watch nor listen to my first game in a couple months yesterday cuz I was at the Illinois / Mizzou game. We finally win. So as not to mess with lady luck, I haven't watched one second tonight, although I found it ok if I check the score. Now I'm convinced it's some sort of karma thing. Like a good luck beard, I'm not watching a single pitch until we lose. Of course this is a waste of my extra innings package.
2008-08-31 20:08:53
298.   trainwreck
I hate these RPG ads.

Make me think of Blizzard, which just ruins people's lives.

2008-08-31 20:09:31
299.   old dodger fan
297 If we win out in September I'll pay your EI for the month.
2008-08-31 20:10:37
300.   oshea2002
299 - deal.
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2008-08-31 20:11:09
301.   Humma Kavula
296 Because there are players who deserve to be enshrined who need serious cases made in their favor. Blyleven. Trammell. Raines.

When someone makes a "HOF" case for an average player, it means that making the case for players that deserve it that much harder.

Wills isn't a borderline HOF player like, say, Jim Rice, where I might vote no, but making the case makes me think about it and refine my argument. Making the case for Wills involves saying things like "Ernie Banks never went to the World Series. Wills went four times!" It's ridiculous, and it means that making the case for truly deserving players becomes that much harder.

Sure, the HOF doesn't really matter, as bh points out. But neither does baseball, for that matter, and I care a lot about that.

2008-08-31 20:12:46
302.   fanerman
Victory!
2008-08-31 20:13:30
303.   sporky
Two in a row! (weeps)
2008-08-31 20:13:52
304.   Humma Kavula
Good on ya, Dodgers. Nice win.
2008-08-31 20:14:19
305.   trainwreck
Nice to see the young guys end the game in dominating fashion.
2008-08-31 20:18:11
306.   Gen3Blue
Waoh, I haven't seen C.C. lately but I hope he delivers soon or he is going to hurt himself.
2008-08-31 20:18:59
307.   scareduck
295 - well, they were brothers after all. (j/k)
2008-08-31 20:22:59
308.   Bob Hendley
Who woulda thunk it. 2.5 back, right back to where they were after the first loss to the Fillies on their way to losing 8 straight. Snake fans gotta be besides themselves.
2008-08-31 20:23:19
309.   JRSarno
Great win. Now, time to go buy my St. Louis Cardinal's cap from "Three Day Hat Broker."
2008-08-31 20:24:16
310.   scareduck
303 - what Sporky said.
2008-08-31 20:42:45
311.   Gen3Blue
The Dodgers beat Haren and Webb! I'm not surprised having seen every thing go against LA for 8 days.
2008-08-31 20:54:57
312.   MollyKnight
Because of work and life in general, I haven't had the chance to watch any of the games in the last ten days or so.

But I caught the last few innings tonight, and I am so happy we crushed Haren and Webb. This is a simply amazing feat after getting swept by the Phils and the Nats.

YESSSSSSSS!!

2008-08-31 21:01:14
313.   silverwidow
Aside from the one mistake, Elbert has been beyond amazing. He looks like a superstar to me and I've only seen him twice.

The stuff is obviously electric, but he's been called the best athlete in the organization as well. That is a rare breed.

2008-08-31 21:13:28
314.   Dodgers49
From previous thread:

56 Re Las Vegas: I apologize if this has already been covered, but is Las Vegas changing their nickname? The PCL schedule handed out in Sacramento two nights ago lists the Las Vegas team as the TBAs.

The team was purchased by new owners in March and they immediately announced that they would be dropping the 51's name after this season. I think they may be planning on holding some type of contest for a new name but I'm not sure about that. You might be able to find the article in the Las Vegas newspaper's archives.

2008-08-31 21:17:13
315.   silverwidow
Dylan Hernandez:

Kent has a torn meniscus, will have surgery on Tuesday.

2008-08-31 21:21:30
316.   Dodgers49
314 I just had Google take a look. :-)

>> The new owners have announced that they intend to change the team's name for the 2009 season, potentially opening the process to a public vote. <<

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Vegas_51s

2008-08-31 21:24:05
317.   trainwreck
316
I suggest Minotaurs, Bisons, or Loney Bombs.
2008-08-31 21:28:20
318.   sporky
I suggest the Amoebas. Or Paramecia (which sounds vaguely Spanish).
2008-08-31 21:30:40
319.   trainwreck
318
Jason Giambi would not like those names.
2008-08-31 21:31:07
320.   Jacob Burch
I always liked the 51s logo, may have to try and grab one before they disappear.
2008-08-31 21:32:25
321.   sporky
There are no more matchups between SD and Arizona this season. My love for Jody Gerut has been downgraded to "like," unless he's waived/claimed by the Cards, Giants, Reds or Rockies.
2008-08-31 21:32:43
322.   Bob Timmermann
And Chin-Lung Hu is the replacement for Kent, although he was due to come up anyway. But I suppose Kent was put on the DL for postseason roster flexibility.
2008-08-31 21:34:38
323.   sporky
321 And may face further downgrades unless he gets conjunctivitis tonight and spreads it to the entire rotation.
2008-08-31 21:37:57
324.   sporky
Longshot: anyone have experience with Ikea mattresses?
2008-08-31 21:39:04
325.   DodgerBakers
315 I blame this on my brother giving me a Kent jersey for my birthday.
2008-08-31 21:54:52
326.   arborial
324 I do
2008-08-31 22:00:23
327.   arborial
324 not sure which model it is but it was $299 for a queen and we have had it for 3+ years. It just sits on the frame, no box spring. I have no complaints and you can't beat the price.
2008-08-31 22:01:14
328.   bhsportsguy
Tyler Lamb verbally committed to UCLA, welcome in 2010.
2008-08-31 22:09:36
329.   trainwreck
328
I guess you missed 250 .

Hope we can pull in a good guard for 09.

2008-08-31 22:15:15
330.   LogikReader
Wow!!!!!! and I mean... WOW!!!!

Never would I have thought the Dodgers would slam the two best pitchers in baseball back to back. This is phenomenal!

I'm not too concerned about the playoff race right now... I'm too humble from last week.

The Dodgers know they can't let up against the Padres, who always always ALWAYS beat them, so we will see if LA can build on the momentum.

btw this will be the first time we see the Padres since the Manny trade. Can't wait to check it out!

2008-08-31 22:15:18
331.   scareduck
323 - "conjunctivitis" -- a strangely specific disease.
2008-08-31 22:18:28
332.   Gagne55
And the Dodgers miss Peavy. This could be chance to gain some ground before the last head to head collision with the D'backs. Strength of schedule favors the Dodgers from here on out. The recent roadtrip evened up the home-road disparity and the D'backs still have two series with the Cardinals. The Dodger's only tough opponents left are D'backs at home and Rockies in Coors.
2008-08-31 22:19:53
333.   trainwreck
330
Not sure about the two best pitchers in baseball.
2008-08-31 22:26:37
334.   bhsportsguy
333 Just doing some prepping for tomorrow's activities so I missed that entry.

I have to believe no matter what happens, it will be more entertaining than last year's game against Notre Dame.

2008-08-31 22:28:29
335.   trainwreck
334
Oh, yes! Just seeing young players that should be real good in the future is entertaining.
2008-08-31 22:32:57
336.   trainwreck
334
Oh, sweet! Tracy just put up a new post that gives more for us to be happy about.
2008-08-31 22:39:50
337.   LogikReader
"two best pitchers in baseabll." Did I really say that? I was caught up in Eurphoria, and meant to say the Arizona's two best pitchers.

The best pitchers in baseball right now are Roy Halladay, CC Sabathia, and Tim Lincecum, with considerable mention for Cliff Lee.

2008-08-31 22:52:49
338.   gpellamjr
337 Cheer up. At least 330 was one of the better rule 6 violations.

Did I say one of the best? Nay! to be sure, the greatest of all time!

2008-08-31 23:13:30
339.   ToyCannon
Just generalizing but it seems the ones who wouldn't mind seeing Maury Wills at least get a shot at the HOF actually saw him play and were a witness to his performance from 1961 - 1966, and 1971 when OBP was nary to be found in anyone's vocabulary.

This who find it repugnant can only look at his numbers since they are to young to have ever seen him play.

He ended up with a total of 214 win shares which ain't easy. If he isn't HOF material he certainly is a player whose number probably should have been retired. He was the greatest Los Angeles SS ever in both peak years and career numbers.

http://tinyurl.com/trueblueWS-SS

He did have 6 out of 10 of the greatest years for a LA Dodger Shortstop. How many LA Dodgers have ever received MVP votes in six different seasons?

The idea that the Dodgers should only retire HOF players is out dated. The idea is to retire great Dodgers and Maury Wills was one of the greatest even if his heyday was before the time of most members here. At least I got to see him in 1971 and in his late years he still put up a better season then the best season Bill Russel had in him.

2008-08-31 23:14:39
340.   ToyCannon
Those 214 Win Shares are only as a LA Dodger.
2008-08-31 23:25:53
341.   Tripon
ESPN's Jayson Stark last week quoted an unnamed scout as describing third baseman Andy LaRoche as "lethargic" since joining the Pirates. Huntington called that "harsh" but acknowledged the coaching staff reprimanded LaRoche once for failing to run out a grounder. "He's been addressed, he's embarrassed, and it won't happen again," Huntington said. "But this is not a lazy player."

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08245/908533-63.stm

2008-08-31 23:30:43
342.   Bob Timmermann
CC Sabathia wished Andy LaRoche didn't run out a grounder today.
2008-08-31 23:34:15
343.   Jon Weisman
339 - I think you've hit the nail on the head - people who saw Wills play love him more than people who didn't.

Just to be devil's advocate, the Dodgers already have retired more numbers than most teams outside of the Bronx. I could see expanding the criteria beyond Hall of Famers and Junior, but I'm not sure the criteria should be "greatest player at a position the Dodgers have been pretty weak at" or "being better than Bill Russell."

Wills was overrated, in my opinion. There's a reason his stats don't stand the test of time, while those of Jackie or Snider do. Doesn't mean that if you love Wills, you have to stop, but I'd be wary of retiring his number. If you open up the retired numbers to good-but-not-great players, you're going to get into the kind of debate where some people won't be happy until about 25 numbers are retired. Russell, for example, surely would be on that list for some - he was a Dodger for 30 years. And then the next Manny Ramirez will end up wearing #199.

I exaggerate, but you get my drift. Good topic, though.

2008-08-31 23:41:54
344.   berkowit28
The Dodgers also got some breaks today, for a change. The Kemp double, the dropped ball (again to Kemp's advantage), and the Manny foul pole hit. All in all, these contributed to 2 or 3 runs. They sort of leveled the recent run of luck the other way - fun.
2008-08-31 23:44:15
345.   Xeifrank
The Dodgers magic number is now down to 29.
vr, Xei
2008-08-31 23:49:02
346.   milkshakeballa
trainwreck / bh

i also got a text from a source (he was wrong on a commit he called a while back) but he said look for Honeycutt to commit in the next week or so and I went on the board and say Tracy's post, so you know its legit!!

Good times...now let's hope Chow can work some miracles tomorrow!

2008-08-31 23:56:06
347.   Louis in SF
Came late to this party my Mom is up from LA. I am a big fan of Wills and still have his bat from the bat night I attended in 1966.

I know the stats indicate that as far as Hall of Fame goes he might not have enough to make it in, but for the Dodgers to retire his number for me it is a no brainer.

His 1962 season was brilliant and his 102 steals and I believe 30 out of 31 steals of third had a great impact on the Dodgers great season. The loss of Sandy in the last month probably cost the Dodgers the pennant.

The Dodgers pitching in the 60's was special, but their offense was not, Wills was an extra special part of the offense. In bringing up Bill Russell who I also enjoyed, in my mind the offensive contribution of Davey Lopes, Garvey or Cey was far more important.

Wills in addition to being a very good shortstop, was seen as a team leader. It is for those reasons he should have his number retired.

2008-09-01 00:01:17
348.   trainwreck
346
Yep, definitely good times. Especially with all the lack of recruiting news for days, it is great to get things rolling again.

Hopefully we can steal Gaddy from Arizona.

2008-09-01 00:06:30
349.   Jon Weisman
"in addition to being a very good X, was seen as a team leader"

My concern is: How many Dodgers would meet this qualification since they began issuing uniform numbers? Twenty? Forty?

2008-09-01 00:16:55
350.   UVaDodger
"Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!"
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2008-09-01 00:33:55
351.   Dodgers49
Kent to undergo surgery on left knee

>> The front office spent part of Sunday trying to make a waiver deal for a middle infielder. The Giants earlier rejected overtures for Omar Vizquel, but another candidate could be Tadahito Iguchi, cut loose by the Padres on Sunday. <<

http://tinyurl.com/5jruxd

2008-09-01 00:45:18
352.   Jon Weisman
NPUT
2008-09-01 07:47:02
353.   Gen3Blue
The Dodgers beat Haren and Webb! I'm not surprised having seen every thing go against LA for 8 days.

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