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$10,000,000 Hiroki Kuroda
*$475,000 Chad Billingsley
*$415,000 Clayton Kershaw
*$405,000 Eric Stults
*$400,000 James McDonald
*Total: $11,695,000

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*$2,500,000 Takashi Saito
*$1,300,000 Scott Proctor
*$1,500,000 Jonathan Broxton
*$425,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
*$420,000 Cory Wade
*$410,000 Ramon Troncoso
*$400,000 Scott Elbert
Total: $6,955,000

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Yhency Brazoban
Greg Miller
Justin Orenduff

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*$3,000,000 Russell Martin
*$2,500,000 Andre Ethier
*$600,000 Matt Kemp
*$600,000 James Loney
*$500,000 Angel Berroa
*$410,000 Blake DeWitt
*$400,000 Tony Abreu
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*$600,000 Jason Repko
*$410,000 Delwyn Young
*$400,000 Danny Ardoin
*$400,000 Chin-Lung Hu
Total: $11,810,000
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Lucas May
Xavier Paul

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$50,000 Gary Bennett (buyout of $900,000 option)
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2008-09-26 14:38
by Jon Weisman

I'm not assuming that the Dodgers will play the Cubs, but FYI:

Record against teams .500 or better:
47-40 (.540) Cubs
27-38 (.415) Dodgers

Record against teams below .500:
49-22 (.690) Cubs
56-38 (.595) Dodgers

Interestingly, the Dodgers have a .595 winning percentage against sub-.500 teams before and after August 1. That eight-game losing streak really mucked up the works.

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The Dodgers are having a pep rally Sunday at Dodger Stadium from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. with Dodgers alumni, musical entertainment, $2 pricing for Dodger Dogs and other popular items - and an appearance by the team itself, assuming their game in San Francisco doesn't go 20 innings. Admission and parking are free, free, free. Seems like a good occasion for an impromptu Dodger Thoughts gathering - maybe, if the kids feel like hot dogs for dinner, we'll stop by ...

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Weather permitting ... revel in the tension of others!

Nationals at Phillies, 4:05 p.m.

Yankees at Red Sox, 4:05 p.m.

Rays at Tigers, 4:05 p.m.

Marlins at Mets, 4:10 p.m.

Braves at Astros, 5:05 p.m.

Cubs at Brewers, 5:05 p.m.

Royals at Twins, 5:10 p.m.

Indians at White Sox, 5:11 p.m.

Dodgers at Giants, 7:35 p.m.

Comments (507)
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2008-09-26 14:56:14
1.   Bumsrap
As our choir already knows, the Dodgers now are not the team that played most of the year. I don't this year's history is going to help us predict what can happen in the playoffs. A few great pitching performances to begin the playoffs, either by the Dodgers or their opponents, could be the determining factor for moving forward in the playoffs.
2008-09-26 14:57:36
2.   LogikReader
Man I cannot WAIT to see all those games tonight! I just don't understand why some sports fans out there need to put down the Pennant Race, toot their horn and proclaim "FOOTBALL SUPERIORITY". I mean c'mon, really? It's Week 4, give me a break.

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Man this rally is such a great idea! I wish it was on Saturday though, instead of Sunday. I won't be able to make the commute from SB with the work day tomorrow. Hope you all can represent!

2008-09-26 14:59:16
3.   LogikReader
For those without Extra Innings, will ESPN and Fox be carrying a good portion of those games over the weekend? Hope so... this is exciting!
2008-09-26 14:59:27
4.   Bumsrap
Kent and Nomar and Pierre for that matter (maybe Furcal as well) have to be thinking this is their time and Torre has to feel those vibrations if not outright pressure from them to play.
2008-09-26 15:03:08
5.   D4P
4
Yeah. I don't think Kent, Nomar, and Furcal worked themselves back onto the roster during the last week of the season just so they could keep sitting on the bench during the playoffs.
2008-09-26 15:05:17
6.   Bumsrap
My playoff team

Martin, Ardoin
Loney
DeWitt, Hu
Blake, Nomar
Berroa, Furcal
Manny, Pierre
Kemp
Ethier
Young
Billingsley, Lowe, Kershaw, Kuroda, Maddux
Park, Wade, Biemel, Elbert, Saito, Broxton

2008-09-26 15:08:50
7.   underdog
If you missed Molly's link at end of last thread, here's her "6 Things You Should Know..." chat with Joe Beimel.

http://tinyurl.com/4xa78c

2008-09-26 15:10:10
8.   underdog
I liked this one from Beimel:

>>2. WE KNOW WE'RE FANTASY IRRELEVANT
"We don't rack up the stats that help fantasy teams, and that doesn't bother me. But it does make it funny when fans shout, 'You're on my fantasy team! Throw me a ball!' " It's like, c'mon. We both know I'm not on your team."<<

2008-09-26 15:23:18
9.   fanerman
It turns out I'm going to tonight's game after all. Woohoo!
2008-09-26 15:25:43
10.   Rob M
6 I wouldn't leave Proctor off the way he's been throwing since he came back. I don't think Ned will, either. Slot him in for Elbert. I think I'd rather have Stults than Maddux, too, for that matter.
2008-09-26 15:27:18
11.   ToyCannon
8
Holds are a fast growing roto category and Beimel had 12 this year, 2nd only to Broxton on the team and tied with Kuo. He's got value he just doesn't know it.
2008-09-26 15:28:57
12.   ToyCannon
Kent is going to be on the playoff team and he's going to be playing 2nd base unless they cut his leg off.
2008-09-26 15:35:54
13.   LogikReader
12

I dunno if that's such a good idea. I know it is bound to happen, but I loved DeWitt's defense this month. Ah well.

2008-09-26 15:37:27
14.   CanuckDodger
At his website, Scareduck has a link to a San Diego paper that says that with the Dodgers making the playoffs the Padres are now, under the terms of the Maddux trade deal, entitled to a better prospect than what they would have gotten if we didn't make the playoffs. Just kill me now. Nice knowing you, Lambo.
2008-09-26 15:40:46
15.   underdog
14 It's not going to be Lambo, no way, no how. It won't be De Jesus, either. After that, anyone's guess. Maddux better win a playoff game for us now.
2008-09-26 15:42:46
16.   LogikReader
14 , 15

This is the flip side of making the playoffs with NedCo. Grr!

It's a slow day today...

2008-09-26 15:44:10
17.   ToyCannon
14
Oh please, if it is Lambo I'll gladly do you in but there is no chance it is Lambo.
2008-09-26 15:46:12
18.   oshea2002
I was questioning why Maddux was even celebrating with the team. At least Sweeney contributed by running the rookie hazing program.

in all seriousness, there's no way it's Lambo.

2008-09-26 15:48:27
19.   oshea2002
Jon Heyman is on TV right now. He's picking the Brewers to be the odd team out. Full disclosure - this is on the Mets' pregame show.
2008-09-26 15:53:14
20.   underdog
I still think it'll be someone like Adkins and maybe someone like Bridger Hunt, or Jamie Hoffman.
2008-09-26 15:55:16
21.   CanuckDodger
San Diego started out asking for McDonald AND Elbert. Are we supposing master negotiator Ned got them to lower their demands from those lofty heights to Alberto Bastardo and David Pfeiffer? And now what about this business with the "upgrade" triggered by the playoff clinch? Lambo is not as good a prospect as Carlos Santana, and it took Santana PLUS another decent prospect to get two months of non-descript journeyman Casey Blake. I am not saying it is Lambo for sure, but is Ned dumb enough to do that? Yes, yes he is.
2008-09-26 16:01:11
22.   still bevens
Can it be Stults or is he out of options next year and likely to be cut?
2008-09-26 16:01:40
23.   underdog
Well, let's just say we all hope you're wrong. I just think he has a staff full of people who would come after him with baseball bats if he tried to give them Lambo.

Remember, just because a team asked for the moon doesn't mean they will be given the moon or a different moon, even with NedCo at the helm. Otherwise, he'll be mooned.

2008-09-26 16:02:36
24.   scareduck
21 - it's a valid point. You're dealing with comparables, but on the other hand, Maddux hasn't been very valuable with the Dodgers (and wasn't really with the Pads before that).
2008-09-26 16:03:41
25.   scareduck
23 - given that Logan White was happy to sign off on the Manny rental at the cost of Andy LaRoche, who's to say what he would do?
2008-09-26 16:03:59
26.   trainwreck
Underdog has given us all permission to hit Ned with bats if he trades Lambo.

That is what I am telling the cops.

2008-09-26 16:06:41
27.   ToyCannon
Christ, just because some paper reported the original asking price doesn't mean squat and you should know that.

Casey Blake was a starting 3rd baseman who could be traded anywhere and we paid the price to get him and not pay his contract.

Greg Maddux would only agree to be traded to us. We had a ton of leverage and if Ned did not use that leverage and it resulted in a top 5 pick getting traded for a 5 inning pitcher then I'd pitchfork Ned myself, but I'm comfortable with the idea that they will get two pitchers who we probably won't miss but if we do it will only because they are pitching in Petco.

2008-09-26 16:09:24
28.   bhsportsguy
27 Justin Miller or Steven Johnson seems like the range of pitchers that could be part of the deal, also Scott Van Slyke.
2008-09-26 16:11:53
29.   Kevin Lewis
Is there any word (valid at least) on what is happening with Brad Penny?
2008-09-26 16:12:55
30.   Icaros
27

Typical Dodgers fan talking to Jesus...like he cares about baseball. :-)

2008-09-26 16:13:46
31.   trainwreck
29
Being put on the 60-day DL is not a good sign for his future with the team.
2008-09-26 16:16:28
32.   Alex41592
Mets down early to the Marlins.
2008-09-26 16:19:01
33.   Jim Hitchcock
32 Yeah, sure , cheer us up...
2008-09-26 16:20:35
34.   underdog
26 Basically. :-) Though I was implying his colleagues would do it for us.

25 True, but don't you think White sees that Ramirez is in a different stratosphere of value than Maddux? And while I'm sure he liked LaRoche he probably had his own doubts about him at that point. I think he adores Lambo, from what I've read. Yes, I could be wrong.

Thus, the baseball bats.

2008-09-26 16:20:52
35.   Alex41592
Ryan Howard puts the Phillies in great shape. 3-0 Phillies.
2008-09-26 16:22:48
36.   Alex41592
NLDS Opponent Watch:

Marlins 2 Mets 0 B1
Nationals 0 Phillies 3 B1
Cubs Brewers Later

2008-09-26 16:22:48
37.   underdog
Carl Crawford was activated by the Rays today. That's sort of like their Furcal, though he wasn't out nearly as long, but in that he will be eased back into it and could be a big late bonus for them in the playoffs.
2008-09-26 16:24:03
38.   Kevin Lewis
31

I guess I was also wondering if Brad was asking for something that is not normal...to know before the season whether or not the option would be picked up. Who knows what happened behind closed doors, but he seems to be acting like a child about this.

2008-09-26 16:24:31
39.   Bumsrap
I thought the prospects for Maddux would be better if Maddux pitched well for the Dodgers more than if the Dodgers did well while Maddux was on the team.
2008-09-26 16:26:46
40.   trainwreck
34
I am going to say you were a Charles Manson-like figure.
2008-09-26 16:27:49
41.   trainwreck
38
I think he is depressed, frustrated, and angry about how bad he was this year and not getting his stuff back.
2008-09-26 16:31:11
42.   MollyKnight
Beimel is as good of a dude as he is a pitcher. I only hope he remains with the Dodgers..
2008-09-26 16:31:47
43.   underdog
Bases loaded for the Mets bottom of the 2nd, 2 outs, for Ryan Church. 2-0 Florida.
2008-09-26 16:33:25
44.   underdog
And Church hits one deep to left... a way back!.... And it's caught. 3 outs.
2008-09-26 16:36:03
45.   scareduck
30 - of course Jesus cares about baseball. Remember that famous passage in Genesis: "In the big inning ..."
2008-09-26 16:37:22
46.   scareduck
34 - when does a scouting director ever say anything negative about a prospect before he's traded?
2008-09-26 16:37:30
47.   Jim Hitchcock
42 I can't imagine him not being resigned.
2008-09-26 16:38:44
48.   LA Doyers
What's up with Penny? I heard he cleared his locker out, and hes nowhere to be found

http://tinyurl.com/4pm6gw

2008-09-26 16:39:29
49.   scareduck
Wow, Tampa's behind the Tiggers 3-0 in the top of the 2nd. Not that that's likely to stay that way, but still.
2008-09-26 16:44:18
50.   Alex41592
Phillies put their game away early. 6-1 in the 2nd.
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2008-09-26 16:44:20
51.   RIYank
45 I thought Jesus came later.

But, come to think of it, that was a big inning, and He kept it up for a few more too, huh? He deserved the Seventh Inning stretch.

2008-09-26 16:46:46
52.   Alex41592
Cubs or Phillies?

Cubs or Phillies?

2008-09-26 16:50:18
53.   LoneStar7
the mets are useless
2008-09-26 16:50:35
54.   Alex41592
NLDS Opponent Watch:

Marlins 2 Mets 0 T3
Nationals 1 Phillies 7 T3
Cubs Brewers Later

2008-09-26 16:56:25
55.   underdog
51 And on the 7th game, He rested?

48 A lot of discussion on it in previous thread. He sounds like he's frustrated, with himself and with the team and despondent and not wanting to be around the playoff atmosphere. It's sounding like his big option won't be picked up due to his horrible year and he won't acknowledge that it's in large part his own fault for playing hurt long before saying anything. Either that or it's Eliza Dushku's fault.

2008-09-26 17:03:11
56.   D4P
NLDS Opponent Watch

For whom are we supposed to be rooting...?

2008-09-26 17:05:59
57.   Alex41592
56 - I root for chaos. I don't actually care.
2008-09-26 17:06:05
58.   MC Safety
Playing/beating the Mets would be nice and all, but not nicer than seeing them completely miss the playoffs after being gifted Johan.
2008-09-26 17:06:14
59.   Bob Timmermann
I'm rooting for the Mets and Marlins to play to a tie after six innings. Then there would be rain. That would suspend the game. Then it would rain all day Saturday. So on Sunday, they'd have to play the conclusion of the suspended game and then a doubleheader.

I want this because I'm that kind of a guy.

2008-09-26 17:06:30
60.   trainwreck
56
I believe the strategy is to not face the Cubs, so we want the Mets to win.
2008-09-26 17:07:09
61.   Alex41592
56 - But my question is why?
2008-09-26 17:07:24
62.   trainwreck
In reality it may be better to face the Cubs in the first round. Shorter series, plus their pitching is a little tipsy turvy at the moment with Dempster as the Game 1 starter.
2008-09-26 17:08:45
63.   Alex41592
Excuse me. 61 is meant for 60 .
2008-09-26 17:10:38
64.   trainwreck
63
Because the Cubs have the most talent in the NL and they can throw Harden, Zambrano, and Dempster at you.
2008-09-26 17:13:03
65.   Jim Hitchcock
59 Bob's telling the truth. For sport, he likes to make little kids at the library cry.
2008-09-26 17:14:38
66.   scareduck
62 - Dempster at Wrigley is a tough match-up. He's not a dumpster-diving catch, no sir, more Greg Madduxy.
2008-09-26 17:16:55
67.   scareduck
53 - Chris Volstad is darned impressive. You may remember this game:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN200807110.shtml

He reeled one off very like it against the Stros a couple starts ago.

2008-09-26 17:17:53
68.   Bob Timmermann
65
Only after Andrew Shimmin softens them up for me by heaping abuse upon them for not knowing what bokonon42 meant.
2008-09-26 17:18:54
69.   Jim Hitchcock
Of course, Bob was also part of the team that discovered the first ever verified Mersenne prime number, so there's that.
2008-09-26 17:19:13
70.   trainwreck
White Chocolate Jason Williams has retired.
2008-09-26 17:20:46
71.   Alex41592
So some people's plan is to get to the World Series by not playing the best team (record wise)?

Or is it some don't want to face them in a short series because you think Dempster, Harden and Zambrano can shut us down?

If the choice is Cubs or Phillies for the first round. Both are very good teams but I think we match up well with both of them. But, if we're going anywhere in October we're probably going to have to face both of them. That's why to me it doesn't matter. The question becomes who do you think the Dodgers can beat in a shorter series?

2008-09-26 17:21:39
72.   underdog
I'm rooting for a tripleheader and chaos.

Short of that, the Mets, though I think they're gonna choke and miss the playoffs altogether.

Okay, off to get ready for the Dodgers-Giants game! Wish us luck. Will report back here late tonight.

2008-09-26 17:22:16
73.   Jim Hitchcock
71 And the answer is...the Mets!
2008-09-26 17:23:13
74.   underdog
71 I think the Dodgers can beat any of the NL teams in a short series. They could also get swept by any of them. It really doesn't matter much, ultimately, though I'd love to see them play the Cubs in the NLCS, in a longer series, if nothing else it would be fun. I want them to win some playoff games for once, too.

Cheers.

2008-09-26 17:23:48
75.   trainwreck
72
Maybe Kemp will have some extra champagne left over.
2008-09-26 17:33:54
76.   still bevens
Nu lineup tonight

Furcal, SS
Dewitt, 3B
Ramirez, LF
Kent, 2B
Ethier, LF
Loney, 1B
Pierre, CF
Ardoin, C
Lowe, P

2008-09-26 17:34:22
77.   RELX
59 . Unfortunately, it is not raining at all here in NY right now.
2008-09-26 17:35:30
78.   Alex41592
NLDS Opponent Watch:

Marlins 2 Mets 0 B5
Nationals 3 Phillies 7 B5
Cubs 1 Brewers 0 T2

2008-09-26 17:37:12
79.   overkill94
Has there been any coverage about the rookie hazing? They showed some of the costumes on the local news and they were quite entertaining as usual. Blake DeWitt as Marilyn Monroe was especially awesome.
2008-09-26 17:40:59
80.   trainwreck
79
I like Kuroda as a pimp with his interpreter doing the LA sign with his hands.
2008-09-26 17:43:06
81.   Marty
I want the Cubs. Because most of my friends are Cubs fans and I want them as miserable as possible.
2008-09-26 17:46:06
82.   CanuckDodger
81 -- If you wish misery on your friends, God help your enemies.
2008-09-26 17:46:29
83.   Alex41592
Replay in Philadelphia.
2008-09-26 17:47:26
84.   Alex41592
Kansas City takes the lead over the Twins right after the White Sox take the lead over the Indians.
2008-09-26 17:47:49
85.   Alex41592
3-0 Marlins.
2008-09-26 17:48:07
86.   Alex41592
Brewers tie it at 1.
2008-09-26 17:49:05
87.   Bob Timmermann
84
And it was America's Hero, AJ Pierzynski,who put the White Sox ahead.

Would Pierzynski be liked as a player for any team except the White Sox? I suppose Mets fans would like him.

Do you see where I'm going with this?

2008-09-26 17:49:17
88.   Ken Noe
76 Two left fielders...that clever Torre.
2008-09-26 17:50:13
89.   Bob Timmermann
Asdrubal Cabrera, not having a good inning.
2008-09-26 17:50:42
90.   Indiana Jon
76 I don't like that lineup one bit. I know we've already clinched and all, but has Torre lost his mind? Manny is a small defensive liability, but does he really need Ethier over there while we leave RF wide open? The lefties are going to kill us tonight.
2008-09-26 17:52:01
91.   Alex41592
90 - That's why he has Pierre in center tonight of course! He's a genius!
2008-09-26 17:55:23
92.   Alex41592
Kansas City is all over Liriano.
2008-09-26 17:55:25
93.   trainwreck
We can have Kent stand in the outfield, so he can cover balls in right.

It is probably better than having him at second.

2008-09-26 18:06:00
94.   old dodger fan
Nats are putting up a little bit of a fight. 7-4 at the 7th inning stretch
2008-09-26 18:44:44
95.   Alex41592
I think I know why there is such a halt on posting.

But, the Cubs have officially announced their rotation for the NLDS, in this order:

Dempster, Zambrano, Harden, and Lilly.

2008-09-26 18:48:04
96.   Marty
I'd like Lehrer to ask McCain and Obama what they think of the Dodgers' chances.
2008-09-26 18:48:13
97.   berkowit28
95 Please tell us.
2008-09-26 18:48:34
98.   Bob Hendley
It's a Rule 5 thang.
2008-09-26 18:49:34
99.   Indiana Jon
96 Probably Cubs and Diamondbacks fans. There opinion would be meaningless.
2008-09-26 18:50:27
100.   Indiana Jon
99 "Their" Just wanted to say that before someone else did.
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2008-09-26 18:50:48
101.   Alex41592
99 - Obama is actually a White Sox fan, FWIW.

I connected it to baseball. I think that's ok.

2008-09-26 18:51:32
102.   trainwreck
99
Obama apparently likes the White Sox.

I want to know if they are pro-Manny with long hair or anti.

2008-09-26 18:51:43
103.   Bob Hendley
McCain is calling for the Snakes to surge.
2008-09-26 18:56:03
104.   KG16
I want to know where they stand on the spread option.

And who I should take with the 8th pick in round 5 of my fantasy basketball draft. Turkoglu, Bynum, or Maggette?

2008-09-26 18:58:38
105.   Alex41592
Phillies win.
2008-09-26 18:59:43
106.   Indiana Jon
Bynum
2008-09-26 19:00:41
107.   Alex41592
Rockies up on Arizona 3-0.

Oh, right that doesn't matter anymore.

2008-09-26 19:02:00
108.   KG16
106 - yeah, I'm thinking Bynum on a best available strategy and then hoping that one of the other two drop five spots to my next pick.
2008-09-26 19:11:27
109.   Alex41592
Tampa Bay is close to it's first division championship.

12-3 Yankees.

2008-09-26 19:12:23
110.   Bluebleeder87
96

Hehehe.

hey ScareDuck so what's the scoop on the Cubs man, should we be scared?

2008-09-26 19:20:26
111.   Alex41592
Brewers take the lead.
2008-09-26 19:22:18
112.   trainwreck
Damnit, the Dodger game is not being televised on time because of the debate.

Those monsters! We got more important things!

2008-09-26 19:28:10
113.   Alex41592
112 - Aha, that's why the game is at 7:35 tonight. The game is on NBC in San Francisco and the debate will end around that time.
2008-09-26 19:29:03
114.   LogikReader
Whew! I thought we were getting the game on tape delay.
2008-09-26 19:29:54
115.   Andrew Shimmin
For the record, I do not abuse children. And, if I were going to (which I'm not; see above), it would be over Tom Sawyer, not Vonnegut.
2008-09-26 19:30:25
116.   trainwreck
113
They say they won't show the game till 8.

Travesty, I tells ya!

2008-09-26 19:35:22
117.   Tripon
They're starting now in L.A.
2008-09-26 19:38:52
118.   Alex41592
Brewers on their way to a one game lead in the Wild Card.

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