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The Final Day of the Regular Season (Day 1)
2008-09-28 08:42
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

89-72 Brewers
89-72 Mets

87-74 Twins
86-74 White Sox

If Brewers win the wild card, Dodgers play at Cubs.
If Mets win the wild card, Dodgers play at Phillies

Rays will play either Twins or White Sox.

* * *

Marlins at Mets, 10:10 a.m.

Cubs at Brewers, 11:05 a.m.

Indians at White Sox, 11:05 a.m.

Royals at Twins, 11:10 a.m.

* * *

I still can't get over how Greg Maddux threw fewer pitches in six innings Saturday than Jake Peavy threw in one inning (the fifth) on Thursday.

In other news: Manager Nomar Garciaparra and bench coach Mark Sweeney have given A.J. Ellis his first major-league start today, and Tanyon Sturtze has been named pitching coach.

Dodgers at Giants, 1:05 p.m.

Comments (615)
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2008-09-28 09:23:00
1.   Dodger Dawg
Sweeney has to be a better coach than he has been a hitter this year. Maybe this is his true calling.
2008-09-28 09:26:37
2.   CodyS
Maddux pitched about as well for us this year as he did for the Padres, when you focus on peripheral stats. It doesn't take much bad luck to give up a couple extra runs, which looks like a lot over the 40 IP he gave the Dodgers. He had two bad starts out of 7 where he let up 14 runs in 10 2/3 innings. Those seven also include two of the best starts anybody had this year, giving up 4 baserunners in 13IP. You don't know what you're going to get with him necessarily, but as long as you're quick with the hook, I think having him start is an excellent choice.
2008-09-28 09:28:51
3.   D4P
3 words that belong in the same sentence:

bench, Mark, Sweeney

2008-09-28 09:35:44
4.   Gagne55
3 If we acquire Mike Sweeny and Mark Bellhorn, then we can convert Bellhorn to right field and use Kemp and Loney off the bench.
2008-09-28 09:38:03
5.   Eric Stephen
I had no idea Peavy threw that many pitches in the 5th the other night! How many was it (I was busy watching Oregon State crush my hopes and dreams)?
2008-09-28 09:42:09
6.   bhsportsguy
5 53 is what I saw.
2008-09-28 09:44:31
7.   Jimmyv11
phillies please
2008-09-28 09:46:07
8.   bigcpa
The odds are pretty good that 2 games will happen tomorrow and another one Tuesday.
2008-09-28 09:46:28
9.   D4P
Setting the Dodgers aside, I'd much rather the Brewers make the playoffs than the Mets.
2008-09-28 09:46:55
10.   deburns
Re: Paul Newman. As much as I loved Newman, his first film, The Silver Chalice, has to take the prize for his worst. I understand he took out a full-page ad in the trades to apologize for it. The Sting, The Verdict, Slapshot and two bookends: On The Terrace and the Young Philadelphians are particularly good trash.
2008-09-28 09:47:00
11.   Bob Timmermann
I counted 53 pitches by Peavy. And that included Juan Pierre's one pitch AB.
2008-09-28 09:48:00
12.   Bob Timmermann
God should hate the Mets. If God doesn't hate the Mets, then I will go off and buy a copy of "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Zoroastrianism" and look for a new god.
2008-09-28 09:50:23
13.   Bob Timmermann
On cable, you only get one HD game at a time. The first one is Tampa Bay at Detroit and the second one is Colorado at Arizona.
2008-09-28 09:55:34
14.   D4P
Bill Maher's recent "New Rules" segment on white people is quite clever.
2008-09-28 10:01:19
15.   Gagne55
12 Bob, I want to see your argument for why God should hate the Mets.
2008-09-28 10:08:02
16.   Bob Timmermann
I hate the Mets. God loves me.

QED

2008-09-28 10:08:40
17.   Bob Timmermann
Mets-Marlins in rain delay until at least 10:25 am.
2008-09-28 10:10:52
18.   jasonungar07
Yah I want no part of the Cubs in the first round. I have tickets to game 4.
2008-09-28 10:15:54
19.   sporky
161 I lol-ed.
2008-09-28 10:16:32
20.   sporky
Subtract 145 from the link in 19 .
2008-09-28 10:19:22
21.   oshea2002
the only reason I'd want to cubs is so that I can go to game 1 or 2. Other then that, I'd just rather play the Phillies and pray for the Mets in rd 2.
2008-09-28 10:28:28
22.   Branch Rickey
My problem with seeing Maddux start in the playoffs for the Dodgers is that I saw it once before. That was truly one of the worst pitching performances that I ever witnessed. Mariano Duncan would have been a better choice to start that game.
2008-09-28 10:31:02
23.   Branch Rickey
My problem with seeing Maddux start in the playoffs for the Dodgers is that I saw it once before. That was truly one of the worst pitching performances that I ever witnessed. Mariano Duncan would have been a better choice to start that game.
2008-09-28 10:33:27
24.   Bumsrap
If the Dodgers sign CC I would prefer for his season to be over, now.
2008-09-28 10:37:08
25.   D4P
24
What about Lowe? And Manny?
2008-09-28 10:41:03
26.   Linkmeister
Curses. Why, Prime Ticket, why? The last regular-season game of the year, against the Giants, no less, and you don't televise it?

Curses.

2008-09-28 10:50:34
27.   MollyKnight
I'm not worried about the Cubs. Honestly, I'm just not. We've got the best pitching in the majors, and I do believe one of the scariest line-ups top to bottom.

This doesn't look like a one and done team to me. Yah!!

2008-09-28 10:52:05
28.   jasonungar07
It's just that realistically (while playing well) we can be down 2-0 coming home in a must win vs a guy throwing 1.71 era in his last 71 innings pitched (Harden). And we throw Kuroda. Not an easy feeling in advance. So normally I say I don't care who we play with bravado, but in this case, yep, Phillies please.
2008-09-28 11:02:51
29.   Bob Timmermann
Game on at Shea.
2008-09-28 11:03:31
30.   Eric Stephen
If a movie ever gets made about Joba Chamberlain, Rickey Gervais should play the lead.
2008-09-28 11:05:54
31.   Bob Timmermann
So if they never play in Boston today, will Johnny Pesky's number still be available?
2008-09-28 11:06:43
32.   berkowit28
26 That's down to the Dodgers, not Prime Ticket. They have a contract with FSN (PT) to carry 100 games, and with KCAL to carry 50. (Presumably because they still think that non-cable non-satellite viewers in the local market should get to see a few games and/or it earns them more money this way.) Today happens to be one of those 50 KCAL days. How FSN and KCAL divide up their 150 games (the rest are on FOX and ESPN) is a mystery - hard to know who to blame for that.

Even in the Dodgers' own territory, this has an effect. I'm in Santa Barbara. The only way to get KCAL here is via cable (Cox), which does not carry KCAL in HD, only in SD. So even though I have an HD TV, I can't see these 50 games in HD (in LA, all 50 KCAL games are available in HD). It's also what keeps me from switching to satellite: DirectTV also doesn't carry KCAL. (This is still way better than for poor Angels viewers, with Santa Babara also in their "territory". Even Cox Cable no longer carries KCOP and their 50 games at all.)

Cox also has a very weird arrangement for showing FSN PT games in HD. Instead of a (single) dedicated FSN HD channel, as DirectTV has, showing 75 Dodgers games in HD from PT and I don't know how many Angels games from FSN West, we can find a few on a peculiar channel called MOJO-HD. For many months, the games weren't even listed in the channel guide - you just had to go see if the game happened to be on, usurping regular listed programs. I just happened to stumble upon a game by accident one day last summer. Since July or August this year, they've been listing the games - sometimes Dodgers, sometimes Angels. But about 1/3rd of the time, it's completely wrong - not showing the advertised game, or occasionally showing it when it's not advertised! And, if the game goes on longer than 3 hours, it dissolves into "regular" MOJO programming either after 3 hours, or after 3 1/2 - impossible to know when. This really screws with recording on the DVR - to be safe, I have to record both MOJO and non-HD FSNPT. Which of course means I can't record any other program at the same time.

Still a lot better than your predicament of not seeing the game at all, of course. I've learned all the tricks of working around it. I've also told DirectTV that if they'd just start making KCAL available here, I'd switch to them the same day.

2008-09-28 11:07:09
33.   underdog
30 I was thinking Gary Farmer myself...

--

Not surprise there are weather issues for games back east today. My g/f made it back safely, barely, yesterday from Massachusetts before the hurricane hit. Had to take a puddle jumper from Martha's Vineyard to Providence to escape and I was terrified just hearing about it after there was a plane crash on same route the day before. In other words, a lot of rain and violent weather is coming to New England today.

2008-09-28 11:07:28
34.   Eric Stephen
28
Or we could be up 2-0 coming home facing a guy made of glass, while we send a pitcher with a 2.77 ERA over his last 10 starts.
2008-09-28 11:09:11
35.   oshea2002
26 - I've come to despise K Cal channel 9.
2008-09-28 11:10:44
36.   Frip
The other day James Loney said something about how "after Pierre hit that home run, we tried to give him the cold shoulder..." Was that in reference to Juan Pierre not celebrating with the team when someone else would hit a home run? I was told that Juan, being disgruntled lately, would remain on the bench after a teamate hit a homer. Can anyone shed some light on this.
2008-09-28 11:12:36
37.   mwhite06
32 I have Direct TV, and I get KCAL in HD. I live in the Valley though, is that the difference?
2008-09-28 11:12:57
38.   Bob Timmermann
It's just a baseball thing for players to try to ignore a player who does something unusual that the player is excited about.

It happens most frequently when a rookie hits his first homer, but it's also done when banjo hitters or pitchers hit home runs.

2008-09-28 11:13:21
39.   Icaros
36

Loney was just talking about the long-standing tradition of pretending not to care when a guy who rarely homers finally does. They wait a few seconds, then mob him. They did it to Berroa as well.

Pierre's chronic pouting is a separate issue.

2008-09-28 11:13:34
40.   Eric Stephen
36
It wasn't anything negative at all. It was a playful thing where the teammates ignore the guy when he gets to the dugout then all mob him in celebration.

They did the same thing after DeWitt's 1st ML HR, and with Ozuna's 1st of this year as well.

2008-09-28 11:14:32
41.   okdodge
36 I think he probably meant something different then what you're thinking. It's kind of a new thing in baseball when a guy hit's a big homerun the whole team will ignore the guy when he gets in the dugout, then the team eventually mobs him a second later. It's just something a team does to mess with the guy who hit the homer.
2008-09-28 11:15:10
42.   Bob Timmermann
I also don't think Juan Pierre pouts any more than the average major leaguer who has lost a starting job.

I'll try to find his VORP (Value over Replacement Pouter.)

2008-09-28 11:15:30
43.   okdodge
And I gladly accept the bronze medal....
2008-09-28 11:16:04
44.   oshea2002
37 - Prime Ticket games are on MLB Extra Innings for those of us outside of So Cal. K Cal games are not. So when the game is on K cal, we get the other team's broadcast, or nothing.
2008-09-28 11:16:37
45.   Icaros
42

His Pout+ is 130.

2008-09-28 11:16:56
46.   okdodge
39 After Berroa's was the best. He kinda looked at the whole team and shrugged his shoulders like he was saying, "Seriously? I look like Wesley Snipes and I hit homeruns and no one celebrates? Seriously?"
2008-09-28 11:18:17
47.   Branch Rickey
DirecTV does have KCAL HD as part of the LA local channels for Los Angeles. If you're not in Los Angeles, there may be a way to get LA local channels but you'd have to ask them about how that works.
2008-09-28 11:18:26
48.   Bob Timmermann
The Cubs-Brewers crowd at Miller Park is similar to the mixture of fans at the Rose Bowl yesterday.
2008-09-28 11:19:40
49.   D4P
The Brewers's lineup has 5 players with 20+ HRs.
2008-09-28 11:20:27
50.   Bob Timmermann
Angel Guzman, who had Tommy John surgery earlier this year, is hitting 97 mph on the radar gun at Miller Park.
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2008-09-28 11:21:09
51.   Bob Timmermann
Peralta homer gives Indians 1-0 lead over White Sox.
2008-09-28 11:21:22
52.   scareduck
On the way over to see the Angels try not to stumble again for their final regular season game of the year ... bummer about the Dodgers not being televised for whatever reason. There's plenty of drama with the Royals/Twins, Indians/White Sox, Cubs/Brewers, and Mets/Marlins. I'm kinda bummed I missed yesterday's Maddux start; sounds like it would have been a lot more interesting than the lackadaisical game the Angels assembled.

See everyone after the game, and go Dodgers!

2008-09-28 11:21:46
53.   D4P
51
Jhonny be good!
2008-09-28 11:23:38
54.   underdog
Just had the first moment of the season where I missed Jason Elam. Because Matt Prater missed a 28 yard field goal. He's also my fantasy kicker. Thus, I will virtually strangle him.
2008-09-28 11:24:52
55.   Bob Timmermann
And Oliver Perez has won the NL single season walks title! 103 and counting!

Barry Zito gets a break.

2008-09-28 11:26:41
56.   Eric Stephen
If the Dodgers can get any type of starting pitching, they can advance in the playoffs. Here are the playoff starts the last two appearances:

2006
Gm 3: Maddux - 4 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 2/0 BB/K, 30 game score
Gm 2: Kuo - 4.1 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 2/4 BB/K, 49 GmScr
Gm 1: Lowe - 5.1 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 2/6 BB/K, 44 GmScr

2004
Gm 4: Odalis - 2.1 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 5/0 BB/K, 39 GmScr
Gm 3: Lima - 9 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 1/4 BB/K, 80 GmScr
Gm 2: Weaver - 4.2 IP, 8 H, 6 R, 2/4 BB/K, 26 GmScr
Gm 1: Odalis - 2.2 IP, 5 H, 6 R, 2/3 BB/K, 25 GmScr

Heck, if the Dodgers can just get the starters to pitch into the 6th, their chances will dramatically improve.

The Lima Game® is tied for the 7th highest game score by a Dodger starter in the playoffs.

http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/nJJa

There have been 101 Dodger playoff games, and here's how the above starts ranked in terms of game score:

2006
3: Maddux - 92nd of 101
2: Kuo - 59th
1: Lowe - 68th

2004
4: Odalis - 75th
3: Lima - t-7th
2: Weaver - 97th
1: Odalis - 99th

2008-09-28 11:26:46
57.   D4P
And Oliver Perez has won the NL single season walks title! 103 and counting!

By walking...

wait for it...

Cody Ross!

2008-09-28 11:26:57
58.   Bob Timmermann
Marlins leave two on in the top of the second. No score at Shea.
2008-09-28 11:27:58
59.   Bob Timmermann
Cody Ross now has 33 walks to go along with his 116 Ks.
2008-09-28 11:28:31
60.   Icaros
56

Who has number 101?

2008-09-28 11:29:35
61.   Bob Timmermann
60
Ramon Martinez. Game 1 of the 1995 NLCS.
2008-09-28 11:29:55
62.   Bob Timmermann
Change that C to a D.
2008-09-28 11:29:56
63.   D4P
59
You're just trying to make him look bad.
2008-09-28 11:30:18
64.   Eric Stephen
60
Somebody didn't click the link! :)

It was Ramon Martinez in Game 1 of the 1995 series against the Reds.

2008-09-28 11:30:22
65.   underdog
My bet on the Saints minus 5 over the Niners today is looking pretty good, however.
2008-09-28 11:30:32
66.   Bob Timmermann
Konerko ties it up in Chicago with a solo homer.
2008-09-28 11:30:58
67.   Eric Stephen
62
Never a good thing for a student to hear.
2008-09-28 11:31:19
68.   Bob Timmermann
Cubs cash in an error by Cecil Fielder and go up 1-0.
2008-09-28 11:31:24
69.   Icaros
63

There wasn't room for Bob to mention his 22HRs and .809 OPS.

2008-09-28 11:31:57
70.   underdog
Who's Cody Ross? {ducks}
2008-09-28 11:32:22
71.   Eric Stephen
65
Ummm, Denver was favored by 10, and some people might like them to win by more than that amount. I will renew my cat hatred if the Broncos don't cover! :)
2008-09-28 11:32:23
72.   Bob Timmermann
I do not worship at the altar of Cody Ross.

Now Zoroaster is another matter.

2008-09-28 11:32:38
73.   D4P
69
And $390,000 salary.
2008-09-28 11:33:38
74.   Eric Stephen
The easy part about the Dodger playoff struggles since 1988 is that when one says "the 1995 series" you don't have to think too hard to figure out which series it was.
2008-09-28 11:33:49
75.   Icaros
64

Copying and pasting is hard.

2008-09-28 11:34:08
76.   underdog
Okay, Prater misses a 28 yard field goal but then after I virtually strangled him he makes a 56 yard field goal in KC! Ay caramba.
2008-09-28 11:34:10
77.   Bob Timmermann
73
I can't hear you. My Andruw Jones jersey is covering my ears.

And many other parts of my body.

2008-09-28 11:34:58
78.   underdog
71 Oh noes, you didn't!? Even I wasn't confident about this one, they always have a struggle in KC even when KC stinks.
2008-09-28 11:35:13
79.   Icaros
Cubs cash in an error by Cecil Fielder and go up 1-0.

Bob emulating Vin Scully.

2008-09-28 11:35:31
80.   Eric Stephen
77
You realize you just set D4P up on a tee for another fat joke, right?
2008-09-28 11:36:18
81.   trainwreck
71
I picked Denver to be high scorer of the week.
2008-09-28 11:36:32
82.   Bob Timmermann
80
I'm in a generous mood today.
2008-09-28 11:36:46
83.   Bluebleeder87
i don't know what you guys are talking about, I just turned on the t.v. & it looks like the game is on kcal 9 think blue t.v. first & then the game.
2008-09-28 11:36:51
84.   Eric Stephen
75
I agree. That's why I use Linkification. That way I can set it and forget it...oh wait, I mean "click it rather than cut and paste."
2008-09-28 11:36:54
85.   underdog
Cecil Fielder's jersey laughs at Andruw Jones' jersey.
2008-09-28 11:37:30
86.   Eric Stephen
83
The gripe is that KCAL is not part of extra innings, so those of us outside of LA are deprived of Vin.
2008-09-28 11:37:59
87.   underdog
Well, then I can blame you guys for betting on them.

Maybe they'll be like my soccer team this morning. We were down 2-1 at halftime and won 11-2.

2008-09-28 11:38:20
88.   D4P
OK, here goes:

My Andruw Jones jersey is covering my ears

I bet it's covering your entire body...!

Thankyouverymuch.

2008-09-28 11:39:05
89.   Bob Timmermann
Actually I bought the Andruw Jones caftan.
2008-09-28 11:39:42
90.   Bob Timmermann
A Jamey Carroll error gives the White Sox another run and they lead Cleveland 2-1.
2008-09-28 11:40:37
91.   Bob Timmermann
Cabrera sac fly makes it 3-1 White Sox.
2008-09-28 11:42:32
92.   Frip
Thanks for the fourteen answers to my James Loney "cold shoulder" question.
2008-09-28 11:42:41
93.   D4P
Actually I bought the Andruw Jones caftan

I like to think of Andruw along these lines:

http://tinyurl.com/4yslqp

2008-09-28 11:42:58
94.   Bluebleeder87
86

oh o.k. One thing I noticed when i was in san diego, you guys get the angels feed (i know that for sure cause i saw FNSW) but do you guys get prime ticket as well? the hotel i was in didn't carry prime ticket.

2008-09-28 11:43:21
95.   Bob Timmermann
Zambrano pinch hitting for Angel Guzman in Milwaukee. The Brewers will enjoy seeing a different pitcher.
2008-09-28 11:43:40
96.   oshea2002
I don't understand why K Cal can't get something worked out with Extra Innings. It can't be strictly a local channel thing b/c Local Channel 4 in San Diego is now a part of the Extra Innings package.
2008-09-28 11:43:48
97.   D4P
1. What I want to happen:

Twins and Brewers make playoffs

2. What I don't want to happen:

White Sox and Mets make playoffs

3. What will probably happen:

See 2

2008-09-28 11:44:32
98.   KG16
85 - and Mo Vaughn's jersey mocks them both.
2008-09-28 11:44:49
99.   MC Safety
I started L. Coles today! Woohoo!
2008-09-28 11:46:08
100.   trainwreck
Just an hour and 15 minutes before Lane Kiffin's last game.
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2008-09-28 11:46:40
101.   KG16
so, what's everyone think, ninth round (88th pick overall) in a 10 team fantasy basketball league too early to take OJ Mayo? I'm debating between him and Hinrich, or possibly Bogut.
2008-09-28 11:46:52
102.   Bluebleeder87
89

for those mere mortals (like my self) who don't know what "caftan" means, take a look

[ http://static.flickr.com/54/153903821_4ad445377d_o.jpg ]

2008-09-28 11:48:01
103.   KG16
100 - If I cared about the Raiders, I would probably hold Al Davis in the same regard that I hold Fidel Castro. (hopefully that is not a rule 5 violation)
2008-09-28 11:48:43
104.   KG16
102 - excuse me, I have to go wash my eyes out with rubbing alcohol now.
2008-09-28 11:49:05
105.   Icaros
100

And Scott Linehan's. Please.

2008-09-28 11:50:51
106.   Bob Timmermann
No score after 3 at Shea.

Cubs 1, Brewers 0, bottom 3

2008-09-28 11:51:31
107.   trainwreck
101
Not at all, but he is going to have a bad shooting percentage, but will put up points and some assists.
2008-09-28 11:51:47
108.   Bob Timmermann
Twins take a 1-0 lead on the Royals after Denard Span doubles on a 2-out, 3-2 pitch.
2008-09-28 11:52:43
109.   seesdifferent
Twins lead as do Sox.
2008-09-28 11:52:43
110.   LoneStar7
I've got the cubs on tv, mets on mlb.tv, twins on gamecast...quite an exciting end to the season

While I don't like the idea playing in philly, I have too many friends that are cubs fans, and they could potentially make my life hell. Plus I think its easier to dislike Philly teams anyway..

so go mets, go cubs, go twins

2008-09-28 11:52:53
111.   Eric Stephen
94
Bluebleeder, in SD we have FSN West, and my TV guide often tells me an Angel game will be on. However, those games are blacked out. I get all the other stuff normally on FSN West though.

No Prime Ticket for me either.

The Angels are on ESPN Radio 800 down here, but that station has the weakest signal I've ever heard from a supposed major market radio station.

2008-09-28 11:53:02
112.   oshea2002
I don't blame Kiffin for any of this. I won't mention Al for fear of numerous rule violations. A win over SD would be nice for a change.
2008-09-28 11:53:10
113.   berkowit28
37 47 That's correct. Direct TV has KCAL, in both SD and (I'm glad to hear) HD, within its own defined "Los Angeles" local area. But not in Santa Barbara. There is an illegal way to get that here, I'm told - by giving a Los Angeles billing address (of a cooperative friend, who'll send mail on) and then installing the dish and all cables etc. yourself. Not an option for me.

There are some areas where DirectTV offers "neighboring local" channels. If I remember correctly, San Luis Obispo can get Santa Barbara local channels, for example. But they don't offer LA channels to Santa Barbara - I think it must have to do with the agreements with local outposts of the major networks - LA stations of same networks not permitted. I suspect they just haven't bothered about smaller non-network stations like KCAL. I did manage to speak with a higher-level rep from DirectTV, who was interested to hear that Cox shows KCAL in Santa Barbara - he said "if they can, we should be able to too". That's what I'm hoping for, but don't expect much.

2008-09-28 11:54:38
114.   oshea2002
Apparently Ed Hochuli just made another huge game changing blunder type call in the Carolina game, already on the front page of Yahoo.
2008-09-28 11:54:43
115.   KG16
107 - I've got a lot of good big men to help on shooting percentage (Duncan, Marion, Garnett, Oden), so I'm not worried about that category. I'm still weak on assists though (Felton and Roy). I'm just wondering if it's a reach, or if I could wait 5 picks for my next selection.
2008-09-28 11:54:57
116.   trainwreck
112
Yep, I actually like Lane.

The 49ers having a decent offense upsets me.

2008-09-28 11:55:56
117.   trainwreck
115
Depends how rookies are going in league. Yeah, you definitely need a guard since Felton may be traded or moved to back-up at some point this year.
2008-09-28 11:56:53
118.   underdog
Matt Prater gives my fantasy team another 5 points with another plus 50 field goal. But so much for racking up the score in Arrowhead.
2008-09-28 11:56:55
119.   okdodge
101 I don't think it's going out on a limb to predict that Hinrich will have better stats across the board than Mayo. Hinrich will probably average more points, assists, boards, and will probably have higher shooting percentages.
2008-09-28 11:57:03
120.   Bluebleeder87
Oliver Perez looks pretty good out there today, I wonder how many complete games he has under his belt.
2008-09-28 11:59:05
121.   trainwreck
119
He is another guy though, that could be traded and will probably have his playing time cut down.
2008-09-28 12:00:20
122.   KG16
119 - yeah, I'm thinking Hinrich with my next pick and then taking Mayo five picks later on the way back. Looking at the draft board, the only rookie taken was Oden (who I took in the 6th), lot of guys going with the PVLs, Durant didn't go until the 5th round.
2008-09-28 12:00:25
123.   underdog
Do we have a list of the poor fools who will have to face Lincecum in the meaningless game today? (i.e., the lineup, aside from AJ Ellis?) I'm just gonna tape the game to watch on FF later but was curious.
2008-09-28 12:01:15
124.   Bob Timmermann
No score after 4 at Shea Stadium.
2008-09-28 12:01:47
125.   KG16
121 - I'm eyeing someone late that I suspect will see increased playing time this year, and who should have a break out season. But I'm guessing no one else is looking at him, so I can wait a couple of rounds.
2008-09-28 12:01:55
126.   Alex41592
Well that is a terrible call in Chicago (White Sox)
2008-09-28 12:04:34
127.   trainwreck
125
Too bad not a keeper league.
2008-09-28 12:05:28
128.   Bluebleeder87
I really don't know what my rooting interest should be to be honest but like Molly I'M NOT REALLY AFRAID of the Cubbies, the Phills we swept & then they swept us... I really think if our pitching stays on track & our hitting stays on track we really should be o.k. to at least be very competitive this time around.
2008-09-28 12:05:52
129.   KG16
Wow, I just realized how dumb the blue mountains on the Coors light bottles actually are. Just saw the Jim Mora press conference commercial where they ask him, "if you don't have the blue mountains, how will you know when your beer is cold?"

I would guess I could tell by grabbing the beer. But then, I have a functioning nervous system.

2008-09-28 12:07:44
130.   KG16
127 - I wouldn't want to get involved in a running keeper league with the guys I'm playing this one with. über-competitive guys that I've known my whole life.
2008-09-28 12:08:20
131.   Bob Timmermann
129
But we're talking OPTIMALLY cold. Not just cold. Those blue labels are accurate to within .00001 of a degree F.

Of course, they don't say what happens if the beer gets TOO COLD.

2008-09-28 12:08:48
132.   KG16
does anyone really think that Bill Gates' email address is bill@windows.com?

Also, the new windows "I'm a PC" commercial isn't really all that good.

2008-09-28 12:09:31
133.   KG16
131 - you still run into the problem of drinking Coors Light, though.
2008-09-28 12:10:47
134.   KG16
this would have been a good week to start the Tampa Bay defense.
2008-09-28 12:10:55
135.   trainwreck
129
Those stupid gimmicks trick people. My friend bought a whole case of those wide-mouth cans, because he thought it was new cool beer or something. I said, well it is just for pouring the beer, so completely useless for you.
2008-09-28 12:11:29
136.   Bob Timmermann
Brian Anderson on the Brewers telecast:
"With each passing out, the balloon tightens for the Brewers."

The balloon tightens?

2008-09-28 12:12:26
137.   Bob Timmermann
Twins have loaded the bases on a walk, error, and HBP.
2008-09-28 12:12:42
138.   Icaros
136

I think it's a heroin reference.

2008-09-28 12:12:47
139.   Alex41592
136 - He's just warming up for the LDS.
2008-09-28 12:13:13
140.   LoneStar7
136 HA!
2008-09-28 12:13:31
141.   KG16
139 - or the LSD?
2008-09-28 12:13:41
142.   LogikReader
136

This, after I lauded Brian Anderson's play by play on Thursday. So disappointing.

2008-09-28 12:14:18
143.   berkowit28
I wonder if they're embarrassed at Nomar's line-up, or he hasn't told anyone. 50 minutes to go, no lineup anywhere yet. Jon, have you received it?
2008-09-28 12:14:47
144.   LogikReader
Bases loaded with 1 out for the Twins, already up 1-0 in the 3rd.

...if anyone's interested.

2008-09-28 12:15:30
145.   Bob Timmermann
Another error gives the Twins a run. 2-0 Twins.
2008-09-28 12:15:48
146.   LogikReader
Oops, didn't see that Bob was tracking the game already. Botched throw home puts the Twins up 2-0.
2008-09-28 12:15:51
147.   Bluebleeder87
it was nice seeing Ramon Martinz get a key hit for the Mets the other day. looking at his numbers this season with the Mets (not to many at bats)

AB - 13
Dingers - 0
BA - .308
OBP - 400
OPS+ - 147

2008-09-28 12:18:08
148.   still bevens
I can't say I'm surprised at the lack of dodgers in the tbs playoff promos...
2008-09-28 12:18:15
149.   LogikReader
Do statistics just magically inflate when you play out east? I can't figure it out. Beltran is one of several Mets with 25 HRs and 110 RBI.
2008-09-28 12:18:34
150.   LoneStar7
leadoff double for the marlins at shea
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2008-09-28 12:20:16
151.   Bob Timmermann
1-0 Marlins in the 6th.
2008-09-28 12:20:16
152.   underdog
Valiant comeback effort underway by Arizona vs the Jets, down 34-0 it's now 34-21 still in the third. The Cards' recovered an onside kick before previous touchdown. In case anyone cares. Not sure why you would. But it's valiant.
2008-09-28 12:20:22
153.   KG16
Greg Jennings: helping one of my fantasy teams, killing the other one.

Luckily, neither is a money league.

2008-09-28 12:21:29
154.   Bob Timmermann
Harold Reynolds says he can feel silence.

That's very deep.

2008-09-28 12:21:35
155.   KG16
152 - I was on the Cardinals bandwagon until they decided to go with Warner. I do not like Kurt Warner.
2008-09-28 12:22:57
156.   Bob Timmermann
I sense an Oliver Perez meltdown coming on.
2008-09-28 12:23:20
157.   underdog
Cutler's having some problems in Arrowhead all of a sudden. Interception, followed immediately by Denver fumble recovery, followed almost immediately by another Cutler pick. Crazy. My fantasy team is helped by his mistakes. My psyche is not.
2008-09-28 12:25:07
158.   LogikReader
Somethin's cooking for the Marlins! According to the NY sports nation, the Marlins are the Mets' equivalent to the Padres.
2008-09-28 12:25:10
159.   MC Safety
138 ROFL
2008-09-28 12:25:25
160.   Bob Timmermann
Marlins will have the bases loaded and one out for Josh Willingham.
2008-09-28 12:25:43
161.   oshea2002
157 - I love it!
2008-09-28 12:25:59
162.   Bob Timmermann
Mr. Smith comes to Flushing.
2008-09-28 12:26:29
163.   LogikReader
Even the Mets broadcasters can sense a potential meltdown.
2008-09-28 12:27:17
164.   berkowit28
Per Diamond:

Garciaparra already made his first move before the game, scratching Rafael Furcal for an undisclosed reason.

Pierre, LF
Ethier, RF
Kemp, CF
Blake, 3B
Loney, 1B
DeWitt, 2B
Berroa, SS
Ellis, C
Kuroda, P

2008-09-28 12:27:45
165.   LoneStar7
155 he's better than that pretty boy loser matt leinart
2008-09-28 12:28:13
166.   berkowit28
Also Diamod:

Hong-Chih Kuo is off the playoff roster for the NLDS. He was tested for circulation problems after he experienced numbness in his fingers warming up last night, and will head to Arizona to pitch in the instructional league in case the Dodgers need him later on.

Also off the roster and headed to Arizona to work out are Chin-lung Hu, Jason Repko and Ramon Troncoso. The Dodgers are also sending Eric Stults to Mexico to play winter ball for Mazatlan, which is managed by Class AAA Las Vegas manager Lorenzo Bundy.

2008-09-28 12:28:55
167.   Bob Timmermann
I'm watching TBS for the Mets-Marlins for HD. And to hear Harold Reynolds call the Marlins "borning" because they don't steal enough.

He needs to check the Marlins HR totals.

2008-09-28 12:29:51
168.   KG16
Charles Woodson, still got it.
2008-09-28 12:29:57
169.   LogikReader
Here come the boos.
2008-09-28 12:29:57
170.   Bob Timmermann
2-0 Marlins after a bases loaded walk to Willingham.
2008-09-28 12:30:16
171.   trainwreck
Why is Harold Reynolds still on TV?
2008-09-28 12:30:22
172.   Bob Timmermann
169
And here come the pretzels!
2008-09-28 12:30:34
173.   LogikReader
169

...at Shea Stadium

2008-09-28 12:31:25
174.   berkowit28
So I guess that means that both Young and (ahem) Sweeney are on the roster, Repko off. At least if Young is on, that's good. Someone figure out who the most valuable player Sweeney and his nothingness is keeping off.
2008-09-28 12:31:54
175.   Bob Timmermann
Old Friend Cody Ross fouls out with the bases loaded. It's up to Amezaga.
2008-09-28 12:32:02
176.   MC Safety
Cody Ross sucks.
2008-09-28 12:32:07
177.   KG16
171 - because "crazy old ball players" is a protected class under the equal protection clause?
2008-09-28 12:34:32
178.   Bob Timmermann
Amezaga grounds out. 2-0 Fish going to the bottom of the 6th.
2008-09-28 12:35:17
179.   tethier
I hope Furcal is alright. It sure would be nice having Fircal even if he is only at 80% or so.

I seem to remember that a team cannot make a roster change during a playoff series. If someone gets hurt they can't DL him and put someone else on - at least until the next round. Is that true? If it is, they may not want to chance Furcal taking up a spot unless he is really ready to go. Same with kent, but he seems to be as good as he's going to be.

2008-09-28 12:37:12
180.   okdodge
That pretty much means no Furcal for the first round.
2008-09-28 12:37:42
181.   Bluebleeder87
at least Herald Reynolds got the part were he said "it should be a good game for 4 or 5 innings" right.
2008-09-28 12:38:56
182.   trainwreck
CC so close to tying the game with a homer.
2008-09-28 12:39:15
183.   berkowit28
Why don't we wait to see if Furcal enters the game in a later inning today? It could be that 3 days starting in a row is not advised at the moment.
2008-09-28 12:41:44
184.   oshea2002
I hope they realize just how bad our bench is before not putting Furcal on the roster. I'll take 50% of Furcal over Hu, Ozuna, etc.
2008-09-28 12:42:04
185.   Bob Timmermann
Someone should tell the Brewers that they are allowed to get hits.

I mean they already have one, but they could use more.

2008-09-28 12:42:22
186.   Bob Timmermann
Tied up in Shea on a 2-run homer by Beltran.
2008-09-28 12:42:26
187.   oshea2002
Beltran power!
2008-09-28 12:43:28
188.   MC Safety
No way.
2008-09-28 12:43:56
189.   D4P
Mets will win, Brewers will lose.

Yuck.

2008-09-28 12:44:02
190.   trainwreck
JT O'Sullivan might want to stop throwing interceptions in the end zone.
2008-09-28 12:44:50
191.   Bob Timmermann
Olsen leads off the 7th for the Marlins, so it will be decided by the bullpens.
2008-09-28 12:46:56
192.   Linkmeister
Way back at 32 berkowit28 responded to my gripe in 26 and explained the FSN/KCAL situation. Thanks.

We have a similar HD thing going here. Sometimes the FSN broadcast is on an HD channel, sometimes not. The newspaper listings don't seem to know which.

2008-09-28 12:49:36
193.   The Dude Abides
In the previous thread, I commented about a classic scene in a Paul Newman movie with Melinda Dillon. It's from Absence of Malice. I can't believe I wrote that it was from The Verdict. I'm losing too many brain cells. And, I hate this news about Raffy. I would much rather see Hu as a defensive replacement than Ozuna, and if Sweeney takes up a roster spot over Repko, leaving us with Pierre inserted into a game as a defensive replacement, I will scream.
2008-09-28 12:51:12
194.   Bob Timmermann
5th pitcher of the game for the Cubs in the game: Sean Marshall.

Doesn't seem to matter to the Brewers.

Brian Stokes pitching for the Mets.

2008-09-28 12:51:39
195.   Bluebleeder87
I wonder if the Marlins have a better bullpen than the Mets.
2008-09-28 12:51:52
196.   Bob Timmermann
Old friend Luis Gonzalez grounds out as a pinch hitter for Olsen. Last AB for him?
2008-09-28 12:51:52
197.   trainwreck
Announcers are talking about how great a leader Luis Gonzalez is.
2008-09-28 12:53:09
198.   Bob Timmermann
Leadoff double for Durham in the 7th.
2008-09-28 12:54:26
199.   Bob Timmermann
And a one-out single for Maybin in New York.
2008-09-28 12:55:14
200.   okdodge
I agree that keeping Ozuna and Sweeney on the playoff roster would be a joke.
Show/Hide Comments 201-250
2008-09-28 12:55:38
201.   berkowit28
The Mets seem to have a pinch hitter called Robinson Cancel. Is that allowed? Do the Yankees know?
2008-09-28 12:56:11
202.   Bob Timmermann
Braun grounds out to third, but Durham sneaks behind the throw to move up a base.
2008-09-28 12:57:33
203.   Bob Timmermann
Robinson Cancel will be traded to the Dodgers for Matt Keel.
2008-09-28 12:57:46
204.   Bluebleeder87
192

all i know is that if i were Eric or any other out of market DT'er I'd be PO'd as well.

2008-09-28 12:58:25
205.   Bob Timmermann
Maybin steals second in New York. Baker strikes out. Two outs for Cantu.

Fielder gets an IBB in Milwaukee. Pitching change for the Cubs.

2008-09-28 12:59:38
206.   trainwreck
I like how in Milwaukee they are showing the Bud Light can and everyone of course is drinking Miller Light.
2008-09-28 12:59:59
207.   Bob Timmermann
Old friend that never was Franklin Gutierrez grounds into the 4th DP for Cleveland against Mark Buehrle.

3-1 White Sox after 6 1/2.

2008-09-28 13:00:05
208.   trainwreck
206
*cam
2008-09-28 13:01:02
209.   LoneStar7
wow a wonderful play in the outfield keeps it tied at 2 heading into the bottom of the 7th
2008-09-28 13:01:02
210.   Bob Timmermann
Chavez makes a nice running catch to end the inning in New York.

I'm sure someone has said, "Endy Magic!" on the Mets broadcast.

2008-09-28 13:02:13
211.   Bob Timmermann
Hardy walks against Wuertz to load the bases in Milwaukee for Cory Hart.
2008-09-28 13:02:40
212.   Andrew Shimmin
Wuertz is unclutch.
2008-09-28 13:03:10
213.   LogikReader
210

Something close to that... I think I heard the phrase "the Legend of Endy Chavez continues..."

2008-09-28 13:03:14
214.   D4P
Corey Hart needs to wear eyeglasses during the day.
2008-09-28 13:03:56
215.   Bob Timmermann
Hart goes down on three pitches.
2008-09-28 13:03:57
216.   trainwreck
The Brewers need some players that have patience.
2008-09-28 13:04:26
217.   oshea2002
Not a good ab by the Sunglasses at Night dude.
2008-09-28 13:04:49
218.   Bob Timmermann
It's up to the veteran clutchiness of Craig Counsell.
2008-09-28 13:05:11
219.   Bob Hendley
Woke up in Cartagena to a thunderstorm, but the sun is now out and I am ready for baseball. Those glorious Bums! The only negative is my Pee Wee peave. I understand the idea of Pablo as a warm body so that Torre can double-switch, what with a well-stocked calabozo and all, but don't like the notion of giving him more rope to overmanage. Also, with Nomar, Kent and JP on the bench there are other PH options that would move Pee Wee down the list. But, in the end, the kid can give you a good professional AB, witness his .393 OBP as a PH.
2008-09-28 13:05:12
220.   trainwreck
Why in the world did CBS assign their top announcing team to the Raider game?
2008-09-28 13:05:19
221.   seesdifferent
Counsell walks with bases loaded, Brewers tie Cubs.
2008-09-28 13:05:36
222.   LogikReader
Brewers are on the board!
2008-09-28 13:05:39
223.   Bob Timmermann
Joe Nelson pitching for the Fish.
2008-09-28 13:05:40
224.   Andrew Shimmin
There we go. That's what I'm talking about.
2008-09-28 13:07:00
225.   Bluebleeder87
so I guess Torre & his coaches will be advisers for this game.
2008-09-28 13:07:02
226.   Bob Timmermann
My archenemy is warming up for the Cubs!
2008-09-28 13:09:04
227.   Bob Timmermann
The Marlins are using Edwin Jackson to get a save today.
2008-09-28 13:09:11
228.   D4P
226
Cody Ross? Ja(y)son Werth? Keith Olbermann?
2008-09-28 13:09:46
229.   Bob Timmermann
Samardzija!
2008-09-28 13:10:02
230.   underdog
220 Hah hah, I was just wondering that, too. Well not a lot to choose from today. Go Raiders! (I loathe the Chargers.)

Looks like the Broncos are gonna get their first L today, choking in Arrowhead. Their defense played a lot better and their offense finally stalled. I blame you guys for betting on them.

Go Dodgers.

2008-09-28 13:10:23
231.   Bob Timmermann
White Sox take a 5-1 lead. The Tigers should be packing their bags for a trip to Chicago.
2008-09-28 13:10:34
232.   Bluebleeder87
Lincecum K's Pierre & Kemp but Ethier gets a hit for the Dodgers.

1 on with Blake at the bat.

2008-09-28 13:10:53
233.   D4P
227
Change that Marlins to a Rays.
2008-09-28 13:11:38
234.   LogikReader
1-1 tie in the 8th in Milwaukee!

2-2 tie in the 7th in NY!

Does it get any better?

2008-09-28 13:11:48
235.   D4P
MLB.com now has a highlight of Counsell's bases-loaded walk...!
2008-09-28 13:12:15
236.   Bluebleeder87
man!! Lincecum strikes out Blake on an out side heater.

ends up striking out the side.

2008-09-28 13:12:27
237.   Bob Timmermann
And it's a blown save for Edwin Jackson.
2008-09-28 13:12:50
238.   Bluebleeder87
234

I love baseball man, LOVE IT!

2008-09-28 13:12:51
239.   LogikReader
230

CBS has some really bad games today. This is actually the best game available.

2008-09-28 13:12:57
240.   D4P
234
The answer to your question is "Yes. It would be better if the Brewers and Marlins had large leads."
2008-09-28 13:13:00
241.   Bob Timmermann
I guess Jackson blew the save because he was standing on the wrong mound.
2008-09-28 13:13:22
242.   Bluebleeder87
i guess this is when MLB.tv mosaic comes in handy.
2008-09-28 13:13:56
243.   Bob Timmermann
The Blue Jays beat the Orioles. Both teams have finished their seasons. Toronto is the leader in the clubhouse!
2008-09-28 13:14:51
244.   Andrew Shimmin
I predict that Samardzija will never allow a home run in the major leagues.
2008-09-28 13:14:59
245.   LogikReader
GREAT play by Sabathia!! Speaking of legends!
2008-09-28 13:15:22
246.   Bluebleeder87
Vinnie explains the Kuo situation a little better (to me at least) Kuo has NO PAIN but he couldn't feel his fingers.
2008-09-28 13:15:51
247.   Alex41592
Marlins take the lead. Wow.
2008-09-28 13:16:38
248.   Bob Timmermann
Jerry Manuel has a rather resigned look on his face.
2008-09-28 13:16:44
249.   KG16
246 - I'm not a doctor, but I got to think:

pain > no feeling

2008-09-28 13:17:01
250.   Bluebleeder87
the ball dudes!
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2008-09-28 13:17:49
251.   Bob Timmermann
The Nats lose! They get the first draft pick!
2008-09-28 13:17:52
252.   LogikReader
HELMS! Wowwww...
2008-09-28 13:18:12
253.   Andrew Shimmin
Maybe Wes Helms could be the Dodgers' 3B, next year.
2008-09-28 13:18:17
254.   LogikReader
What on earth is CC doing batting for himself?
2008-09-28 13:19:35
255.   DBrim
254 - CC has the power to hit one out. He almost did his last AB.
2008-09-28 13:20:17
256.   oshea2002
Have they said anything about Raffy?
2008-09-28 13:20:35
257.   MC Safety
Yes!!!
2008-09-28 13:20:39
258.   Andrew Shimmin
Back to back.
2008-09-28 13:20:54
259.   StolenMonkey86
234 - It would be better if the Mets and the Brewers ended with the same result, forcing a 14 inning tiebreaker.
2008-09-28 13:21:11
260.   LogikReader
Back to Back Marlin HRs! Even for the Mets, this is unbelievable.
2008-09-28 13:21:34
261.   Bob Timmermann
Meanwhile, Cameron singles with one out in the 8th.
2008-09-28 13:21:38
262.   LoneStar7
well here we come chicago
2008-09-28 13:21:43
263.   Bluebleeder87
i've had the no pain & no feel thing (but to be fair mine probably wasn't so bad) but these guys put WAY MORE TORQUE on there arms than I do so who knows.
2008-09-28 13:22:14
264.   ToyCannon
If the Mets don't have the worse bullpen the Brewers do. Marlin power

Looks like the Moose well get that 20th win. Highly improbable heading into this season and now he might have put the cap on getting into the HOF.

2008-09-28 13:22:50
265.   Bluebleeder87
Lincecum IS ON
2008-09-28 13:23:05
266.   trainwreck
I am glad we can be of help to Tim Lincecum in his Cy Young campaign.
2008-09-28 13:23:21
267.   Alex41592
We're going to Chicago boys!
2008-09-28 13:23:25
268.   underdog
That's the last time I root for the evil that is the Mets. Hopeless!

Looks like the Dodgers are headed to Chicago.

5 outs for Lincecum, 5K's.

2008-09-28 13:23:38
269.   Bob Timmermann
Braun 2-run homer.
2008-09-28 13:23:46
270.   oshea2002
Get that plane ready for Chicago
2008-09-28 13:23:48
271.   Bluebleeder87
Brewers take the lead 3-1
2008-09-28 13:23:49
272.   Andrew Shimmin
Braun hits baseballs very well.
2008-09-28 13:24:02
273.   MC Safety
Braun!! Yes!!!
2008-09-28 13:24:09
274.   LogikReader
BRAUN!!! Do you believe it?!
2008-09-28 13:24:31
275.   StolenMonkey86
Wait...so we'd rather face the Cubs than the Phillies?
2008-09-28 13:24:47
276.   Bob Timmermann
Mike Mussina would be the first Stanford player to make the Hall of Fame.
2008-09-28 13:24:48
277.   ToyCannon
Lidge MVP??? On his own team??? Doesn't Utley play on that team?

Braun power, woo hoo

2008-09-28 13:24:56
278.   silverwidow
Dodgers over Cubs in 5
2008-09-28 13:25:11
279.   trainwreck
Ok, Rich Harden. You need to get injured now. You owe it to all Dodger/A's fan that had to put up with it for years.
2008-09-28 13:25:14
280.   lukemccain
Did anyone catch who the base coaches for the Dodgers are today?
2008-09-28 13:25:41
281.   underdog
Berroa avoids the K!

--
Welp, I hope today's game is finally a wake up call for the Broncos' porous defense. Snap out of it boys.

--

AJ Ellis' first ML at bat. Poor guy.

2008-09-28 13:26:24
282.   ToyCannon
Facing Lincecum over the next 4 years is not going to be fun.
2008-09-28 13:26:52
283.   Bob Timmermann
The Twins behind Scott Baker doggedly hold on to a 2-0 lead.
2008-09-28 13:28:00
284.   Bob Timmermann
Kevin Gregg pitching the 8th for the Marlins.
2008-09-28 13:28:38
285.   underdog
That was actually a very solid at bat by Ellis until the last pitch, which there wasn't much to be done with.
2008-09-28 13:28:40
286.   D4P
Both sides so far have been struck out by Lincecum.
2008-09-28 13:29:58
287.   Bluebleeder87
278

i'm thinking it's gonna go all the way, tough series.

2008-09-28 13:30:24
288.   Bob Timmermann
Going to the top of the 9th in Chicago, 5-1 White Sox.

A White Sox win forces Detroit to come down to Chicago tomorrow.

2008-09-28 13:30:34
289.   StolenMonkey86
Not a bad AB by AJ.

Pitch count after 1.5:

Lincecum: 37
Kuroda: 12

2008-09-28 13:30:36
290.   Rob M
282 If he lasts that long...
2008-09-28 13:31:09
291.   LogikReader
If both games hold, what a way to send out Shea Stadium. Man...
2008-09-28 13:31:50
292.   Bluebleeder87
CC is a beast man, his curve still has a lot of bite on it, wow.

then he throws it down the middle & the cubbie hitter gets a lazer shot single.

2008-09-28 13:32:06
293.   Bob Timmermann
Lee up with one out and one on in Milwaukee.
2008-09-28 13:32:17
294.   underdog
God, the Giants sideline reporter woman is such a flipping fool. Her interview with Lincecum's dad included, "Is there any way to express how proud you are of him?"

--

Nice, Pierre!

2008-09-28 13:33:40
295.   underdog
I wish we weren't playing the Cubs, but the Mets really didn't deserve to make the playoffs at all. I'm happy for the Brewers, if they hang on... But I wish we weren't playing the Cubs.

Okay, I'm outta here for a while. A sports-free afternoon.

2008-09-28 13:34:33
296.   underdog
It's all because of Dale Sveum!
2008-09-28 13:34:51
297.   trainwreck
Good for Brewers to finally make playoffs again.
2008-09-28 13:35:09
298.   underdog
So, er, I take it that CC would not be the Brewers' game 1 starter?
2008-09-28 13:36:02
299.   Bob Timmermann
White Sox win. There will be baseball tomorrow.
2008-09-28 13:36:17
300.   MC Safety
CC Sabathia is the second best pitcher in the game.
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2008-09-28 13:36:18
301.   ToyCannon
What a job by CC, is he going to leave his arm on the mound for the Breweers ill fated playoff run?
2008-09-28 13:36:23
302.   tethier
The Mets have runners on 1st and 2nd with 2 out in the 8th. Delgado at the plate.
2008-09-28 13:36:37
303.   oshea2002
Well, if Delgado was ever in the MVP discussion, now is a good time to come through.
2008-09-28 13:37:45
304.   LoneStar7
brewers fans strike me as an odd bunch...maybe because its not a baseball town, but they just don't look right. There are so many weird outfits and signs and costumes in the stands there at miller park lol..
2008-09-28 13:37:51
305.   Bluebleeder87
Zona loosing 1-0 to the Rox.
2008-09-28 13:38:04
306.   tethier
Not today for Carlos.
2008-09-28 13:38:09
307.   Bob Hendley
A win for Moose would also give him number 270 career.
2008-09-28 13:38:59
308.   oshea2002
Anyone know what time the game on Wed and Thur will be?
2008-09-28 13:39:28
309.   Bluebleeder87
it's a beautiful day here in L.A. but man, Frisco looks perfect.
2008-09-28 13:39:31
310.   Bob Timmermann
308
Nope, just TBA.
2008-09-28 13:39:55
311.   LogikReader
To be honest, I think it's hard to judge the Dodgers pitching matched against the teams we play in the NL West. I get the feeling we'll have another sweep at the hands of the Cubs. Even though Chicago's bullpen has some ?'s, I really like what I see with their SPs and lineup.

Whatever happens, I'm excited for them to visit Wrigley and I'm gonna enjoy every minute!

2008-09-28 13:42:01
312.   trainwreck
As usual, Pierre ruins all the fun.
2008-09-28 13:42:30
313.   Bluebleeder87
you gotta love the progress of Billinglsey, hopefully it will be the same with Kershaw.
2008-09-28 13:42:54
314.   oshea2002
I really wanted Philly. I think we can win a series with them. I don't see it v. Chicago. I'd really like Furcal in the lineup.
2008-09-28 13:43:51
315.   Bob Timmermann
Twins up 4-0 after 7.
2008-09-28 13:44:04
316.   Bluebleeder87
Looks like Pierre would have been out but the 2nd baseman dropped the ball.
2008-09-28 13:44:42
317.   LoneStar7
mlb.tv is overloading or something...is anyone else not able to watch this game
2008-09-28 13:44:57
318.   ucladodger
I hate CC and his bionic arm. Its absolutely nuts what he is doing right now. Now we just have to beat the Cubbies.
2008-09-28 13:45:23
319.   sporky
Is Lincecum wearing a mitochondrial pendant?
2008-09-28 13:45:34
320.   trainwreck
Bison patience!
2008-09-28 13:45:40
321.   StolenMonkey86
I like the Lowe vs Dempster matchup, and I think that Zambrano's shoulder might end up giving him some trouble in game two. Ted Lilly will be a tough 4th starter, though.
2008-09-28 13:45:41
322.   Bluebleeder87
ah yes, perfect man coming up to bat.
2008-09-28 13:47:30
323.   Bluebleeder87
woo~~
2008-09-28 13:47:53
324.   StolenMonkey86
gameday says that pitch was right down the pike
2008-09-28 13:48:04
325.   RELX
317 . Yes, MLB site is down--can't get into Gameday or MLBTV
2008-09-28 13:48:13
326.   Andrew Shimmin
A midi-chlorian pendant, I think.

That's got to be the geekiest joke I've ever tried to pull off.

2008-09-28 13:48:36
327.   Bluebleeder87
tip my hat a la John Wayne to Ethier.
2008-09-28 13:48:59
328.   tethier
uh...did Ethier get hurt running to second?
2008-09-28 13:49:15
329.   StolenMonkey86
I'm already questioning Nomar's abilities as a manager. Why pinch run for Ethier now?
2008-09-28 13:49:56
330.   LoneStar7
what a pain the rear, i was dying to witness mets fans at this time
2008-09-28 13:50:06
331.   Bluebleeder87
that pitch should be illegal.
2008-09-28 13:50:18
332.   oshea2002
321 - How about Harden in game 3? He's very tough.
2008-09-28 13:50:30
333.   tethier
329 Whew, feel better knowing that it's only Nomar's managing style.
2008-09-28 13:50:32
334.   StolenMonkey86
.305 BA, .885 OPS, 20 HR, 77 RBI for Andre Ethier in 2008
2008-09-28 13:50:40
335.   Tripon
Every body is going to play today. All 40 members of the roster.
2008-09-28 13:51:11
336.   oshea2002
Has the Dodger broadcast mentioned Furcal at all? I'm stuck with the Giants guys.
2008-09-28 13:51:16
337.   Bluebleeder87
it's admirable what Lincecum is doing.

1-0 Dodgers.

2008-09-28 13:51:23
338.   Bob Hendley
329 - Ha!
2008-09-28 13:51:35
339.   RELX
First MLBtv went down, followed by Gameday, then the scoreboard on the side wouldn't load, and now you can't even get into the site.
2008-09-28 13:51:55
340.   StolenMonkey86
333 - That's speculation on my part; I'm not watching the game. But usually if there's an injury, they send the trainers out there or something, although it is entirely possible that Nomar is such an expert on injuries that he's not taking chances with anyone else.
2008-09-28 13:52:17
341.   D4P
All 3 sides so far have been struck out by Lincecum.
2008-09-28 13:52:42
342.   Tripon
Or he worked it out with everyone on how many innings they're going to play.
2008-09-28 13:52:50
343.   LogikReader
Here we go... 3 outs left for the Mets season unless they turn it around. 4-2 fish, to the Bot of the 9th.
2008-09-28 13:53:28
344.   Kevin Lewis
I lost mlb.tv right before the end of the MIL/CHC game. I am sad I missed the comeback.
2008-09-28 13:53:42
345.   StolenMonkey86
For Lincecum's sake, I hope he doesn't go more than 5 innings. The last thing he needs is to end his season with a 130 pitch outing. I'm also kind of hoping he has his first arb hearing before he hits the DL.
2008-09-28 13:53:51
346.   tethier
340 Does anyone know if they ran for Ethier becasue of an injury?
2008-09-28 13:53:52
347.   Bluebleeder87
you gotta blame Milwaukians right?
2008-09-28 13:55:40
348.   Bluebleeder87
346

I think they just took him out cause Nomar felt like it...

2008-09-28 13:56:11
349.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
325 - Baseball Think Factory/Primer is down, too. Been out all morning.
2008-09-28 13:56:12
350.   Bluebleeder87
guys, watched "Leaving las vegas" yesterday & it had me balling man.
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2008-09-28 13:56:14
351.   sporky
346 No injury.
2008-09-28 13:56:21
352.   ucladodger
And Edwin Jackson pitches bad enough to get a win. 14 wins i think ties the Ray record.
2008-09-28 13:56:47
353.   Bob Timmermann
I would assume Ethier was run for just so he wouldn't get hurt.
2008-09-28 13:57:30
354.   tethier
348 I see Nomar put Ozuna in the game too. I guess everyone is going to play.
2008-09-28 13:57:36
355.   Bob Timmermann
352
Shields won 14 games as well.
2008-09-28 13:58:16
356.   Bluebleeder87
just checked mlb.com & I too am having trouble loading up the page.

here in the west coast.

2008-09-28 13:58:31
357.   Andrew Shimmin
352- So it does, tying Rolando Arrojo and Jamie Shields.
2008-09-28 13:58:47
358.   tethier
353 Hopefully he won't get hurt picking up the baby or something.
2008-09-28 13:59:16
359.   Tripon
What's Edwin Jackson's ceiling? A 3rd/4th starter?
2008-09-28 13:59:42
360.   Bob Timmermann
D4P and underdog doubt the existence of Ethier's baby.
2008-09-28 14:00:24
361.   silverwidow
One more out in NY.
2008-09-28 14:00:24
362.   Bob Timmermann
And the last batter in Shea could be ....

Damion Easley.

2008-09-28 14:00:42
363.   MC Safety
Wasn't Lindstrom a former Old Friend of the Mets?
2008-09-28 14:00:50
364.   Bob Hendley
Part of a planned change, no? What with Blake taken out as well and Pablo in at second.
2008-09-28 14:01:23
365.   ucladodger
355

Yup, both are tied now. It will be interesting to see what Edwins role is in the playoffs. Cant see him being a starter and he's never been any good as a reliever (especially today). He might just be the garbage mop up guy.

2008-09-28 14:01:45
366.   Tripon
Nomar would be a great believer in socialism.
2008-09-28 14:01:58
367.   Bob Timmermann
363
Lindstrom was a Minor Old Met Friend.
2008-09-28 14:02:52
368.   ucladodger
359

If he can gain some consistency in his slider and improve his changeup, I could see him as a 2 during his prime. Right now I'd say he's a 4.

2008-09-28 14:03:04
369.   Andrew Shimmin
I hope the TBS crew gets lots of shots of Met fan kids crying. For Bob's sake, I mean.
2008-09-28 14:03:23
370.   silverwidow
Mets down to their final strike.
2008-09-28 14:03:48
371.   silverwidow
Easley walks
2008-09-28 14:03:49
372.   das411
and Shea lives one batter longer...
2008-09-28 14:03:57
373.   Bob Timmermann
And the last batter at Shea Stadium could be ...

Ryan Church.

2008-09-28 14:05:03
374.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
Has anyone mentioned a Dodgers win today gets them their second-best closing month in LA history? They would be 18-7, for a .720 winning percentage.
In 1965, the Dodgers closed with a run of 22-8 (.733).
2008-09-28 14:05:20
375.   Alex41592
Dodgers vs. Cubs

Brewers vs. Phillies

Red Sox vs. Angels

White Sox OR Twins vs. Rays

Miller Park is going crazy!

2008-09-28 14:05:24
376.   silverwidow
OFFICIAL!!!
2008-09-28 14:05:24
377.   das411
GOODBYE METS!!!!!!!!!!!

and congrats Brewers!!

2008-09-28 14:05:36
378.   oshea2002
Somewhere Willie Randolph is laughing.
2008-09-28 14:05:36
379.   D4P
D4P and underdog doubt the existence of Ethier's baby

I just strongly suspect that it looks like Derek Lowe.

2008-09-28 14:06:17
380.   MC Safety
Beautiful.
2008-09-28 14:07:16
381.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
For the record, the Dodgers lost 5 of 7 games to the Cubs. But the RS-RA differential was minus-1 (18-19).
2008-09-28 14:07:17
382.   Andrew Shimmin
Are there fireworks, or something, after the game? Why aren't the Met fans leaving?
2008-09-28 14:07:43
383.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
382 - There's looting to be had.
2008-09-28 14:07:49
384.   Bob Hendley
The duck asks who are the five SF era Geeants to come in second in CY voting (three come to my mind).
2008-09-28 14:08:29
385.   Kevin Lewis
I welcome the Cubs, and I hope we take them down in the playoffs.
2008-09-28 14:08:38
386.   Bluebleeder87
nice catch, would it have left the yard?
2008-09-28 14:08:39
387.   D4P
If I had to choose between the Dodgers's backups and the Giants's starters, well, let's just say my chosen team wouldn't include Omar Vizquel.
2008-09-28 14:08:45
388.   Andrew Shimmin
I don't think that was out. He caught coming back down, and it hit the heal of his glove.
2008-09-28 14:09:39
389.   Kevin Lewis
381

Exactly, our pitching was excellent against the Cubs, and Loney was a couple of foul balls away from having us win two other games. Our offense needs to show up!

2008-09-28 14:10:17
390.   Branch Rickey
Hate to disagree with Vin but it wasn't timed perfectly and it wasn't above the wall. Nice catch still.
2008-09-28 14:10:18
391.   KG16
Wait 'til Next Year vs. the Lovable Losers

What could possibly go wrong?

2008-09-28 14:10:25
392.   Ken Noe
The Mets and Shea go into the light together.
2008-09-28 14:10:57
393.   Linkmeister
Dodgers-Giants score, please?
2008-09-28 14:11:41
394.   superbas
mets lose again, yikes! personally i think our pitching match up better against the cubs, i don't like us facing that philly offense. maybe i'm being optimistic but i like our chances against dempster and zambrano (if he's not 100%)...harden is the tough one.
2008-09-28 14:11:57
395.   KG16
393 - 1-0 good guys
2008-09-28 14:12:15
396.   das411
So the next time we see the Mets...will they have a new dreadlocked LFer?
2008-09-28 14:12:16
397.   Branch Rickey
If you ever start to feel frustrated with the Dodgers, imagine what it must be like to have been a Mets fan for that past 13 months.
2008-09-28 14:12:40
398.   Bob Hendley
388 - JP demands a replay to unsully his name.
2008-09-28 14:14:31
399.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
396 - I could see them overpaying for Manny.
In fact, I welcome that.
2008-09-28 14:15:01
400.   ucladodger
Anyone know when our first two games are?
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2008-09-28 14:15:33
401.   Tripon
Mets are going to throw money at C.C. and Manny, and then sign Texiera and move him to Right field.
2008-09-28 14:17:17
402.   das411
Wow...so the Brewers will be at Phila and the Dodgers at Cubs, are these both playoff matchups, like the ALCentrals vs Rays, that have never been seen before?
2008-09-28 14:17:24
403.   Alex41592
400

October 1: Dodgers at Cubs (Lowe vs. Dempster)
October 2: Dodgers at Cubs (Billingsley vs. Zambrano)
October 4: Cubs at Dodgers (Harden vs. Kuroda)
October 5: Cubs at Dodgers (if necessary)
October 7: Dodgers at Cubs (if necessary)

2008-09-28 14:17:55
404.   Tripon
The Giants are free swingers.
2008-09-28 14:18:18
405.   MC Safety
Such a fitting song for Mets fans. "Here's Where The Story Ends" by The Sundays.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n35C0j3LLB0

2008-09-28 14:18:47
406.   Linkmeister
The Brewers are recent converts to the NL, so there are a lot of teams they've never played in the playoffs. And the last time they were in it was the Gorman Thomas Brewers, Harvey's Wallbangers.

Thanks for that score.

2008-09-28 14:18:48
407.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
402 - Yep.
In the NL, the only previous matchup between the playoff teams is Dodgers-Phillies (1977, 1978, 1983)
2008-09-28 14:19:04
408.   Andrew Shimmin
There's a word for what happened to the Carmax poll, but it might run afoul of rule five.
2008-09-28 14:20:46
409.   Tripon
403 Hey, its a sensible playoff schedule! Especially compared to the NBA where it somehow takes two weeks to play seven playoff games.
2008-09-28 14:21:14
410.   Bob Hendley
Nomar, time for Repko, no?
2008-09-28 14:22:45
411.   Bluebleeder87
Nomar plays the part good man. lol!
2008-09-28 14:22:48
412.   D4P
Yay, Twins win.
2008-09-28 14:24:07
413.   LogikReader
To answer the question of why fans didn't leave Shea after the final out:

SNY detailed an extensive closing ceremony for Shea Stadium after the game, with their own parade of former Mets and a highlight reel (Willie Randolph is a lock to be left out). Why it was scheduled after the game remains to be seen.

2008-09-28 14:25:36
414.   ToyCannon
Hate seeing a classic player walk off the field for the last time.
2008-09-28 14:27:30
415.   oshea2002
On the inside the dodgers blog, it says Furcal was scratched b/c he informed Torre yesterday he wanted the day off, but the message never got to Nomar.
2008-09-28 14:27:44
416.   Andrew Shimmin
414- Really? I was glad to watch it. Makes me want to retire.
2008-09-28 14:28:01
417.   Bluebleeder87
I remember Ken Arneson raved about Vizquels D.
2008-09-28 14:29:01
418.   trainwreck
Janikowski attempting 76 yard field goal.
2008-09-28 14:29:03
419.   Bluebleeder87
415

definitely goods news.

2008-09-28 14:29:31
420.   Bob Hendley
414 - You prefer to see them dragged off? ;-)
2008-09-28 14:30:21
421.   mwhite06
418 Suprisingly, he didn't make it.
2008-09-28 14:31:23
422.   Andrew Shimmin
Strike 'em out, throw 'em out, my most hated variety of double play.
2008-09-28 14:31:54
423.   oshea2002
How awesome is the NFC East?
2008-09-28 14:33:02
424.   D4P
Shouldn't it be "Strike 'im out, throw 'im out"...?
2008-09-28 14:34:27
425.   trainwreck
Vizquel says he will play one more year and will go to Japan if he has to.
2008-09-28 14:34:54
426.   Andrew Shimmin
424- Not according to the final arbiter of all human knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_play

2008-09-28 14:35:10
427.   oshea2002
425 - Or France.
2008-09-28 14:35:43
428.   Bob Hendley
On the Griddle, is that some sort of laser beam that the Mets have to walk into?
2008-09-28 14:36:10
429.   nofatmike
Well, the Dodgers sure seem to want to give Lincecum the strikeout title in a landslide.
2008-09-28 14:37:54
430.   D4P
426
Ridiculous.
2008-09-28 14:38:31
431.   Bluebleeder87
429

yeah i know, but at least there still winning.

1-zip.

2008-09-28 14:41:10
432.   Bluebleeder87
man, Nomar is a great strategist.
2008-09-28 14:41:25
433.   thinkblue88
LONEY!!!!!

WOW!

2008-09-28 14:41:38
434.   mwhite06
That's what Sturtze told Kershaw to do.
2008-09-28 14:42:01
435.   Andrew Shimmin
Sure Loney made a nice play, but the important thing is that Canuck was wrong in predicting that Billingsley wouldn't get 200 IP, this year.
2008-09-28 14:42:30
436.   D4P
God I hate the Giants. There's just no way the idiots responsible for that lineup should have jobs in the first place or keep them once they do.
2008-09-28 14:43:59
437.   Bob Hendley
Mariano in for the ninth, Yanks up 6-2. Looks like Moose gets win 20/270.
2008-09-28 14:45:52
438.   CanuckDodger
435 -- I don't recall predicting that. I FEARED that, certainly.

And don't think I'm not going to note that defensive metrics tell us that what looked like a great play by Loney was just our eyes deceiving us.

2008-09-28 14:46:50
439.   berkowit28
Angels on pace to win 100 games. Padres may lose 99.
2008-09-28 14:47:03
440.   confucius
Does anyone remember if the playoffs started on a tuesday or a wednesday last year? I thought it was tuesday.
2008-09-28 14:47:43
441.   D4P
Is there any defensible reason for leaving Lincecum in the game...?
2008-09-28 14:48:02
442.   Andrew Shimmin
If I were Nomar, I'd start making everybody bunt. Sure, they wouldn't score any more runs, but at least they'd quit striking out so much.
2008-09-28 14:48:03
443.   Tripon
Bochy is the worst manager not named Bob Melvin in the NL West.
2008-09-28 14:48:37
444.   Tripon
441 Suppressing his arbitration numbers due to multiple stints on the DL next year.
2008-09-28 14:49:20
445.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
444 - That's clevil.
2008-09-28 14:49:43
446.   trainwreck
443
He is worse than Melvin.
2008-09-28 14:50:31
447.   Linkmeister
Namath, I mean Todd, no, I mean Favre threw 6 TDs for the Jets today? Sheesh. Maybe he changed his retirement plans for a reason.
2008-09-28 14:50:38
448.   Tripon
USC fell to ninth in today's Coaches, and AP poll.

Georgia fell to 11th in AP, 10th in Coaches

Florida 12th in AP, 13th in Coaches.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/polls

2008-09-28 14:51:35
449.   Tripon
446 Bob Melvin batted Chris Young 2nd all year despite his sub .300 OBP. At least JP has a post .300 OBP for the Dodgers.
2008-09-28 14:51:50
450.   oshea2002
448 - UGA should have dropped the furthest, not UF.
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2008-09-28 14:53:35
451.   Andrew Shimmin
438- I saw it just the other day. I think it was in the thread where Jon predicted (hedgily, if I recall) Billingsley would be in the top five of Cy Young voting.
2008-09-28 14:54:05
452.   trainwreck
449
Bochy probably has never looked at an OBP stat in his life.
2008-09-28 14:54:26
453.   Tripon
Vin Scully is making fun of Bruce Bochy.
2008-09-28 14:55:32
454.   Ken Noe
441 Defensible, no, but I suspect it has to do with another win, the Cy Young balloting, and the Gnats 2009 advertising campaign that would follow.
2008-09-28 14:58:30
455.   Andrew Shimmin
How many BBWAA voters haven't already filled out their ballots? I bet zero.
2008-09-28 14:59:20
456.   D4P
452
Neither has his boss.
2008-09-28 14:59:54
457.   Tripon
Chan Ho Park is so steamed.
2008-09-28 14:59:59
458.   oshea2002
Sandoval crushes the ball every single time I see him bat.
2008-09-28 15:01:59
459.   Bob Hendley
Yeah, I am thinking that the duck can add another one to the list.
2008-09-28 15:04:21
460.   Tripon
Nomar is the new Brewers manager, and utility player.
2008-09-28 15:05:18
461.   oshea2002
Phil Rogers of the Tribune is picking Cubs in 5.
2008-09-28 15:08:27
462.   Tripon
461 I'm sure Plaschke is picking the Cubs to sweep in 3, and then blasting the Dodgers because they couldn't stop the team of 'destiny'.
2008-09-28 15:12:19
463.   superbas
will kemp finish the year right at 800ops?
2008-09-28 15:13:53
464.   Tripon
So is Delgado still the MVP?
2008-09-28 15:14:01
465.   trainwreck
The Giants want people to big on stupid things like a watermelon made to look like a baseball.
2008-09-28 15:14:57
466.   Bob Timmermann
The Angels won #100 today.
2008-09-28 15:16:49
467.   trainwreck
And the Raider meltdown is in full effect now.
2008-09-28 15:17:11
468.   oshea2002
I can't believe my Raiders are going to blow another game.
2008-09-28 15:17:26
469.   Tripon
Why are the Giants playing all of their regulars in the bottom of the 8th?
2008-09-28 15:20:04
470.   Bob Timmermann
Why shouldn't the Giants play their regulars? It's not like they're very good to begin with.
2008-09-28 15:20:19
471.   D4P
Why are the Giants playing all of their regulars in the bottom of the 8th?

Those are regulars...?

2008-09-28 15:22:08
472.   Tripon
I never noticed that Cory Wade had a hump before...
2008-09-28 15:22:14
473.   Linkmeister
Nomar's not handling the bullpen well.
2008-09-28 15:23:05
474.   Marty
What hump?
2008-09-28 15:23:37
475.   Marty
And it's Eye-gore.
2008-09-28 15:24:08
476.   Tripon
474 Its the power of HD!

Actually, I think my eyes are fooling me.

2008-09-28 15:24:37
477.   berkowit28
469 Because they're not in the playoffs, and they want towin their last game at home? Why should they rest anyone? They all get at least 6 months rest, starting tomorrow.
2008-09-28 15:25:17
478.   trainwreck
So pathetic!!!

It is sad all my assumptions about the Raiders blowing it in 4th always come true.

2008-09-28 15:26:45
479.   Bob Hendley
And why isn't Omar managing?
2008-09-28 15:26:48
480.   oshea2002
478 - this is ridiculous.
2008-09-28 15:28:05
481.   trainwreck
480
There's practically no fun in watching football anymore.
2008-09-28 15:28:51
482.   Who Is Karim Garcia
478.... I'm so angry.

None of this would be happening if Al Davis were still alive.

2008-09-28 15:29:35
483.   Who Is Karim Garcia
False start? C'MON!!!!
2008-09-28 15:29:48
484.   Bilshaw
chan ho park not on the roster.
September: 9 2/3 IP 11 H 7 ER 6.52 ERA
After All Star Break: 30 1/3 IP 32 H 22 ER 6.52 ERA
2008-09-28 15:30:13
485.   oshea2002
Gammons just said Kershaw to replace kuo in pen, Maddux starts game 4.
2008-09-28 15:30:22
486.   KG16
Nomar is clearing the bench.

If I were him, I'd tell Torre to get a bat.

2008-09-28 15:30:23
487.   Bob Timmermann
It's more fun to hear Lee Hamilton complain about false starts.
2008-09-28 15:30:30
488.   trainwreck
Cornell Green should be taken out back and shot after the game is over.
2008-09-28 15:30:39
489.   D4P
People would do well to keep in mind a simple adage:

The NFL sucks.

2008-09-28 15:31:52
490.   KG16
I have to say, it's fun to watch the Raiders suffer. Not quite as fun as watching the Rams suffer. But still, fun.
2008-09-28 15:33:41
491.   Ken Noe
Al Davis is an even creepier version of Hugh Hefner.
2008-09-28 15:34:43
492.   Tripon
Brian Wilson would make a great Mets closer.
2008-09-28 15:37:14
493.   berkowit28
Nomar should have put himself in at the end - they might have won.
2008-09-28 15:38:04
494.   D4P
Pierre slugs .329 for the season.
2008-09-28 15:38:08
495.   Tripon
Did somebody say Maddux will pitch game 4?
2008-09-28 15:38:08
496.   LogikReader
I just found out the big Dodgers Rally is on FSN Prime Ticket tonight. Didn't know it would be televised.

Has this ever happened? A rally before the playoffs?

2008-09-28 15:38:24
497.   MonkeyBlue
484. That is some trouble stats for Chan Ho.
2008-09-28 15:38:54
498.   LogikReader
495

Of course, that requires that there be a Game 4 first.

2008-09-28 15:39:35
499.   D4P
If the DBacks just win 2 of the 6 recent games vs. the Dodgers, they tie for the division crown. Amazing what winning 5 out of 6 will do for you.
2008-09-28 15:40:00
500.   oshea2002
495 - that's what gammons said on baseball tonight.
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2008-09-28 15:40:41
501.   Improbable88
I know the game meant squat, but it sure was hard to watch Angel Berroa come to bat in the ninth w/ two outs knowing that messers Ramirez, Kent, Furcal and even Garciaparra himself were available to hit. I mean, if you're going to use Martin, then go all the way.

85 wins sounded so much better than 84.

2008-09-28 15:41:35
502.   Tripon
499 I'm not so sure about that. I think the Dodgers would have won the Hennensey-Lowe game at least, or the Kuroda-Peavy game if they were actually trying to win games.
2008-09-28 15:41:42
503.   KG16
498 - yeah, I'm kind of expecting the Dodgers to sweep as well.
2008-09-28 15:42:42
504.   Tripon
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP)—Referee Ed Hochuli was at the center of another questionable call Sunday, flagging Julius Peppers for a roughing-the-passer penalty that wiped out Carolina's interception return for a touchdown in the first quarter against Atlanta.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-hochulicall&prov=ap&type=lgns

2008-09-28 15:45:46
505.   LoneStar7
would anyone feel remotely confident throwing maddux in against this cubs lineup?
2008-09-28 15:46:52
506.   trainwreck
505
No, why would anyone?
2008-09-28 15:47:26
507.   oshea2002
505 - will their hitters be blindfolded?
2008-09-28 15:49:02
508.   Tripon
I just hope that we have a two-one lead if Maddux has to pitch game 4. Maddux is like Kuroda, you never know if good Kuroda is showing up or Bad Kuroda. The same thing with Maddux.
2008-09-28 15:49:47
509.   Branch Rickey
I bought a small frozen yogurt last night and paid $6.10.
Just got my World Series tix today and they are $250 each.
When did life get so expensive?
2008-09-28 15:49:57
510.   trainwreck
No one in the Coliseum is cheering even though the Raiders tied the game, because they all know what is going to happen next.
2008-09-28 15:50:37
511.   Tripon
PHILADELPHIA (AP)—The last-place Washington Nationals fired five coaches on Sunday, a complete overhaul of manager Manny Acta's staff after finishing with the worst record in the majors.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-nationals-coaches&prov=ap&type=lgns

Jim Bowden should fire himself.

2008-09-28 15:51:22
512.   Tripon
509 Inflation.
2008-09-28 15:52:01
513.   Tripon
There's no Sunday Night baseball on ESPN tonight?
2008-09-28 15:52:07
514.   trainwreck
510
And of course the Chargers return the kickoff to the Raiders' 35.
2008-09-28 15:54:25
515.   Branch Rickey
Is anyone else subjecting themselves to the torturous Time Life commercial that followed the Dodger game on KCAL? If so, can you help me understand why I haven't turned away? It's like a car crash. A car crash from the past.
2008-09-28 15:55:21
516.   Tripon
The Bills are going 19-0. That is all.
2008-09-28 15:56:21
517.   Tripon
515 I already switched to baseball tonight. If I'm going to watch crap, I might as well watch John Kruk try to proclaim Ryan Howard is the MVP due to his home run and RBI lead.
2008-09-28 15:56:52
518.   MonkeyBlue
513. NYY vs Boston ?
2008-09-28 15:57:31
519.   oshea2002
No one snatches defeat from the jaws of victory quite like the Raiders.
2008-09-28 15:58:15
520.   Bob Timmermann
There's never Sunday Night Baseball on the last day of the regular season. There usually isn't a night game. The Red Sox and Yankees are only playing to make up a rainout.
2008-09-28 15:58:38
521.   Tripon
518 ESPN says they're doing a baseball tonight edition at 8:30 Eastern, for the division series preview.
2008-09-28 16:02:16
522.   trainwreck
I hope Michael Crabtree likes California, because he will be in Oakland next year.
2008-09-28 16:03:14
523.   Tripon
Raiders fans better hope John Madden is the owner next year.
2008-09-28 16:06:18
524.   Branch Rickey
Dale Sveum just declared Sabathia's performance "the best of our era" because "coming back on 3 days rest-- no one has ever done that before".
Uhhh... you mean since yesterday when Santana did it?
2008-09-28 16:06:42
525.   Tripon
NEW YORK -- The Mets have decided to bring back Jerry Manuel as manager despite the disappointing end to their season, SI.com has learned.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/09/28/mets.manuel/index.html

2008-09-28 16:06:53
526.   KG16
523 - how dare you deprive the world of John Madden as a football commentator?
2008-09-28 16:08:02
527.   KG16
hypothetical question: if you're Joe Torre, and the Dodgers win it all this year, do you ride off into the sunset and let Donnie Baseball take over?
2008-09-28 16:08:20
528.   Tripon
524 C.C. been pitching on 3 days rest for the past 3 or 4 starts. That hasn't been done in a while.
2008-09-28 16:08:47
529.   Tripon
526 Is that a question or statement?
2008-09-28 16:11:04
530.   KG16
529 - I'm not really sure. It should be read with mock righteous indignation.
2008-09-28 16:11:55
531.   Tripon
530 Well, I did read it with mock righteous indignation. So you did your job.
2008-09-28 16:16:25
532.   KG16
wow, I'm having a flashback.

Kieth Olberman and Dan Patrick doing football night in America.

It's 1995 all over again.

2008-09-28 16:20:53
533.   MC Safety
517 I don't see one thing wrong with Ryan Howard getting the NL MVP.
2008-09-28 16:21:36
534.   CanuckDodger
Has anything been said about what TIME on Wednesday the Dodgers/Cubs game will take place?
2008-09-28 16:22:19
535.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
532 - Are the scores on a blue background?
2008-09-28 16:24:04
536.   Tripon
http://tinyurl.com/3pa96k

Another praising Torre article by the New York media.

2008-09-28 16:24:22
537.   Gold Star for Robot Boy
534 - Just a guess, but they'll have the East Coast prime-time game. So, 5 p.m. PDT-ish.
Brewers-Phillies will have the early game, and Red Sox-Angels will have the late game.
Just makes sense.
2008-09-28 16:25:05
538.   Branch Rickey
534- Still TBA
2008-09-28 16:25:31
539.   KG16
535 - that's the only thing missing. you can tell it's been 12 years since they worked together, their timing is a bit off.
2008-09-28 16:26:18
540.   Tripon
Aaron Rodgers may have a separated shoulder. Oops.
2008-09-28 16:26:31
541.   KG16
wow, Angels won 100 games this year. If my math is right, that's pretty good.
2008-09-28 16:27:42
542.   KG16
the hit on Bolden in the Jets game was sick.

540 - it happens, I'd kind of like to see what Brian Brohm can do. But I was looking forward to seeing Rodgers for a while now too.

2008-09-28 16:27:45
543.   MC Safety
That hit on Boldin was brutal. Yikes.

And Kurt Warner has some serious man boobs.

2008-09-28 16:28:46
544.   D4P
Angels won 100 games this year

Helps to play in the worst division in the MLB.

2008-09-28 16:30:12
545.   JoeyP
84-78 is not the worst record to ever make the playoffs.

Cards 06 (83-78) & Padres 05 (82-80) were worse.

2008-09-28 16:31:01
546.   KG16
544 - going 30-14 against the East and 24-17 against the Central probably helps too. Especially since they were only 36-21 against the West.
2008-09-28 16:33:08
547.   Tripon
Twins won with a 85-77 record in 1991.
2008-09-28 16:36:02
548.   MC Safety
So I think it's safe to say sans Ramirez, the Dodgers were a pretty mediocre club.
2008-09-28 16:38:05
549.   Tripon
Sans Manny, and Furcal. The Dodgers kinda were bad. With Manny and Furcal, they can be much better.
2008-09-28 16:40:20
550.   JRSarno
534 - Still waiting eagerly for that information myself. Need to know what escape measures I have to engineer to get me out of the office to watch the game(s)... I recall back in '06 either Game 1 or 2 was rather early in the day, as I seem to remember being at home alone, fuming over Kent and Drew's idiotic baserunning... hopefully, our games get prime time billing this time around.
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2008-09-28 16:41:21
551.   Tripon
550 They're playing the Cubs, we'll getting every game at 5 PM, or TBS and Fox are going to start firing programmers left and right.
2008-09-28 16:42:51
552.   Alex41592
I tend not to focus on the 84-78 record.

Rather what this team did from August 30th until this past Wednesday. Really incredible job by this ballclub. That's the team that is the N.L West champions.

Everything goes back to zero on Wednesday.

2008-09-28 16:45:00
553.   scareduck
544 - factor in the AAAA-ness of the NL and the Dodgers don't have much to brag about.
2008-09-28 16:45:07
554.   Alex41592
Dodgers/Cubs and Red Sox/Angels are the marquee series. They'll definitely be treated as such. Brewers/Phillies will probably have a lot of day games.

If it's Twins/Rays when is the last time we had a series fully enclosed in domes?

2008-09-28 16:47:17
555.   berkowit28
When do the playoff teams have to announce their rosters? I saw somewhere where they gave the time, but not the day. Does the possibility of an AL Central playoff on Tuesday alter this at all?
2008-09-28 17:22:19
556.   Tripon
Cards to resign Lohse.
2008-09-28 17:26:48
557.   trainwreck
The dream has ended for Los Angeles.

The Sparks lost today.

2008-09-28 17:30:32
558.   Tripon
ESPN baseball playoffs preview is starting.
2008-09-28 17:39:08
559.   Eric Stephen
554
If it's Twins/Rays when is the last time we had a series fully enclosed in domes?

The 1991 ALCS was played in the Metrodome and the Skydome.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/1991_ALCS.shtml

2008-09-28 17:40:42
560.   MC Safety
I'm not that big a football fan, but go Desean Jackson.
2008-09-28 17:41:24
561.   trainwreck
DeSean Jackson decided to mention his high school of Long Beach Poly instead of Cal.
2008-09-28 17:48:47
562.   Who Is Karim Garcia
So far the playoffs special is a Josh Hamilton special.
2008-09-28 17:50:23
563.   Tripon
Imagine if the Rays kept Josh Hamilton.
2008-09-28 17:50:27
564.   overkill94
How many people said they were going to the rally?
2008-09-28 17:58:34
565.   MC Safety
561 That's so awesome.
2008-09-28 18:09:54
566.   Alex41592
For those who forgot the Dodgers postseason rally is live on FSN Prime Ticket right now.
2008-09-28 18:14:35
567.   Tripon
Long Beach Poly could stay in a game with Cal if they played today.
2008-09-28 18:16:10
568.   Neal Pollack
When are we going to know what time the game airs on Wednesday? I will have to do some substantial schedule reshuffling...
2008-09-28 18:17:21
569.   Tripon
http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/mcdonja03.shtml

James McDonald finishes with an ERA+ of infinity. So good, he's unquantifiable.

2008-09-28 18:20:27
570.   Tripon
Jeff Kent started at first base Saturday, and Torre said he was open to the idea of doing the same in the playoffs on a day when the opposing starting pitcher is a tough left-hander.

http://www.pe.com/sports/baseball/dodgers/stories/PE_Sports_Local_S_dodgers_notes_28.21d186c.html

2008-09-28 18:28:52
571.   D4P
I'm taking a break, halfway through "The Verdict". I like it thus far.
2008-09-28 18:29:16
572.   still bevens
I just spent $100 to change my flight to get home early on Sunday to make the game. There better be one...
2008-09-28 18:36:23
573.   Bluebleeder87
a few years back Jorge Cantu said to watch out his team [Rays at the time] were gonna surprise a few people, i know players from there teams say that but i'm reminded of him saying that now.

he's gone, playing for the Marlins but it's still pretty cool I guess.

2008-09-28 18:37:51
574.   Tripon
Eric gagne in the playoffs.
2008-09-28 18:40:05
575.   Bluebleeder87
i guess it depends how you view things (i've never been to milwaukee) but it was pretty nice watching them celebrate, especially this one girl (tears in her eyes) maybe she was remember her dad or something... who knows, it was just cool to watch.
2008-09-28 18:41:05
576.   Bluebleeder87
Eric Gagne has an ERA+ of 80
2008-09-28 18:43:54
577.   Bluebleeder87
television CEO's are probably pretty happy:

Boston
Los Angeles (both teams)
Chicago
Milwaukee
Florida

_______

i'm sure i'm forgetting a team or 2.

2008-09-28 18:45:08
578.   Bluebleeder87
in 2003 Eric Gagne had an ERA+ of 335
2008-09-28 18:45:20
579.   trainwreck
577
Philly and possibly Minnesota.
2008-09-28 18:54:49
580.   Gen3Blue
I am very happy in general about our pitching over the weekend. But I am not sure fine tuning your roster is worth more than keeping a winning atmosphere going into the playoffs. In particular, if the odd dozen at bats given to Pierre, Ozuna, Berroa and friends, had been given to our good offensive players, we likely would have won tonight. Is it important? I'm not sure. But I'm nervous.
2008-09-28 18:55:38
581.   Bluebleeder87
1)Physical – Olivia Newton-John
2)Eye of the Tiger – Survivor
3)I Love Rock and Roll – Joan Jett & the Blackhearts
4)Ebony and Ivory – Paul McCartney/Stevie Wonder
5)Centerfold – J. Geils Band
6)Don't You Want Me – The Human League
7)Jack and Diane – John Cougar
8)Hurts So Good – John Cougar
9)Abracadabra – Steve Miller Band
10)Hard to Say I'm Sorry – Chicago
11)Tainted Love – Soft Cell
12)Chariots of Fire – Vangelis
13)Harden My Heart – Quarterflash
14)Rosanna – Toto
15)I Can't Go for That (No Can Do) – Hall & Oates
16)867-5309/Jenny – Tommy Tutone
17)Key Largo – Bertie Higgins
18)You Should Hear How She Talks About You – Melissa Manchester
19)Waiting for a Girl Like You – Foreigner
20) Don't Talk to Strangers – Rick Springfied

__________

popular songs from 1982

2008-09-28 18:55:44
582.   Gen3Blue
Kinda wish I was LATed this time.
2008-09-28 18:58:15
583.   Gen3Blue
581 I think Melonball has been trying to get rid of that "Cougar" since 1983.
2008-09-28 19:02:45
584.   Bluebleeder87
1982 was the last year Milwaukee made it to the post season...

cool songs from that list:

John Cougar - Jack & Diane

Tainted Love - Soft Cell

2008-09-28 19:04:28
585.   Bluebleeder87
baseball tonight is talking about our Dodgers right now.
2008-09-28 19:05:57
586.   Bluebleeder87
well that's a change of paste, Baseball tonight likes the Dodgers.
2008-09-28 19:07:49
587.   Rob M
584 - what 867-5309 and Don't You Want Me?

And also I Can't Go For That (No Can Do). You can't sleep on Hall and Oates.

2008-09-28 19:12:27
588.   Tripon
Gammons just reported that the Brewers agreed to trade another prospect to the Indians for C.C. if they made the playoffs.
2008-09-28 19:13:13
589.   Tripon
Dodgers-Cubs is 6:30 EST. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Day game for the Dodgers?
2008-09-28 19:13:13
590.   LU Dodger
585, 586

I thought the same thing. Gammons talking good about the Dodgers would normally make me happy too....except that he's now dead to me b/c of his incessant Kemp/Cano trade rumors.

Oh..Petey my boy...where'd you go wrong.

Where'd you go wrong..

2008-09-28 19:14:38
591.   Tripon
Angels-Red Sox is 10:00 EST. Boston must be up in arms about this.
2008-09-28 19:15:43
592.   Alex41592
Times announced! Pacific Standard Time!

Game 1: 4:30 p.m (6:30 in Chicago)
Game 2: 6:30 p.m (8:30 in Chicago)
Game 3: 7:00 p.m

2008-09-28 19:16:32
593.   still bevens
589 Both games or is the game 4 time tbd?
2008-09-28 19:18:24
594.   Alex41592
Ok just forget about 592

Game 1: 3:30 p.m (5:30 in Chicago)
Game 2: 6:30 p.m (8:30 in Chicago)
Game 3: 7:00 p.m

http://tinyurl.com/4hagj7

2008-09-28 19:20:51
595.   berkowit28
592 Why Standard Time? We're still on Daylight Savings until Nov. 2- timed to coincide with baseball!
2008-09-28 19:22:42
596.   Alex41592
Ok, so here's the super fancy version!

Game 1: October 1st on TBS 3:30 p.m.
Los Angeles Dodgers at Chicago Cubs
(Derek Lowe vs. Ryan Dempster)

Game 2: October 2nd on TBS 6:30 p.m.
Los Angeles Dodgers at Chicago Cubs
(Chad Billingsley vs. Carlos Zambrano)

Game 3: October 4th on TBS 7:00 p.m.
Chicago Cubs at Los Angeles Dodgers
(Rich Harden vs. Hiroki Kuroda)

Games 4 and 5 To Be Determined

2008-09-28 19:23:41
597.   berkowit28
586 "change of paste" - I like it! No plain old flour and water paste for us! Super-glue, maybe?
2008-09-28 19:23:50
598.   trainwreck
That 3:30 start time will make people on the West Coast very happy...

NOT!

2008-09-28 19:27:29
599.   oshea2002
Have they announced our playoff roster yet?
2008-09-28 19:29:13
600.   Alex41592
I think it's a little ridiculous they're starting a game in Chicago at 8:30 p.m. But, World Series games on the east coast start at 8:30 so it's not over the top ridiculous.
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2008-09-28 19:29:42
601.   Tripon
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-simers29-2008sep29,0,255106.story

New T.J. Simers article. Thats what? 4 in a row? Usually he takes a couple of days off a week to let Jerry Crowne take over page two.

2008-09-28 19:29:53
602.   LogikReader
581

No love for "Gloria?"

2008-09-28 19:32:40
603.   Tripon
One scout told the Chicago scout to have his team mow the grass as short as possible and harden the ground around home plate with Derek Lowe pitching.The scout said the Dodgers' infielders lack range, and with Lowe's pitching drawing so many ground balls, it'd be to the Cubs' advantage to speed up the infield. -T.J. Simers
2008-09-28 19:36:15
604.   Tripon
http://www.insidesocal.com/dodgers/

Tony Jackson says that the games are starting 7 minutes later than the previous posting times for some reason.

Wed. Oct. 1

3:07 pm MIL @ PHI (1)
6:37 pm LAD @ CHI (1)
10:07 pm BOS @ LAA (1)

And so on.

2008-09-28 19:38:28
605.   cargill06
I posted on 9/8...

Ok, my very un-scientific and probably very wrong calculations look like this

Dodgers
vs. SD (Peavy 1) 3-3
vs. SF (Cain 1) 4-2
vs. Pitt 3-1
vs. Col 1-2
Total- 11-8

Arizona
vs. SF (Lincecum 2, Cain 1) 3-4
vs. Cin (Harang, Cueto, Volquez) 1-2
vs. StL (Wainwright) 2-2
vs. Col. 4-2
Total- 10-10

So the winner of tonight's game will be playing for the divison crown tomorrow.

What really happened...
Dodgers
Vs. SD 4-2
vs. SF 2-4
vs. Pitt 3-1
vs. Col 2-1
Total 11-8
Arizona
vs. SF 4-3
vs. Cin 1-2
vs. STL 1-3
vs. Col 4-2
Total 10-10

Dodgers 84-78
Arizona 81-81

I didn't get the order right, but close enough.

2008-09-28 19:38:46
606.   Alex41592
The Dodgers have arrived to Dodger Stadium.
2008-09-28 19:44:30
607.   KG16
581 - I'm on board for songs #2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 11, and 16.

Just flipped over to the rally, I'm not sure bringing the championship trophy out is a good idea.

2008-09-28 19:45:57
608.   Tripon
http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/pujolal01.shtml

Albert Pujols has a 190 OPS+. Just wow

2008-09-28 19:58:42
609.   Tripon
Josh Beckett has an oblique injury and may not be able to pitch against the Angels.

Lester starts game 1 now. Dice-K game 2, Beckett is slotted game 3.

2008-09-28 20:01:33
610.   LogikReader
Rally Thoughts

That was fun! Kinda reminds me of those good ol' rallies before big High School games. Ah the days. Excellent work, everyone who made this rally possible.

The players looked spent, and I commiserate. I feel spent just traveling 45 min from SB to Oxnard. Still, it was great to see everybody rally the troops. Man I wish I was there!

2008-09-28 20:07:26
611.   jasonungar07
608 And to think that Bonds ave OPS + for 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2004 was around 250 and Manny with the dodgers is 213.
2008-09-28 20:20:53
612.   berkowit28
Second game at Fenway went to 10 innings. Red Sox won 4-3. Nice for them at home, I guess.

Regular season over everywhere but AL Central.

2008-09-28 20:22:39
613.   Tripon
611 And Pujols blows everyone out of the water with his defense.
2008-09-28 20:29:02
614.   Bluebleeder87
606

a baseball buddy of mine told me today that he was going to a "celebration" thing with them at 630am?

what?

2008-09-28 20:32:58
615.   Jon Weisman
NPUT

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