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*$475,000 Chad Billingsley
*$415,000 Clayton Kershaw
*$405,000 Eric Stults
*$400,000 James McDonald
*Total: $11,695,000

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*$1,300,000 Scott Proctor
*$1,500,000 Jonathan Broxton
*$425,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
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*$400,000 Tony Abreu
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*$410,000 Delwyn Young
*$400,000 Danny Ardoin
*$400,000 Chin-Lung Hu
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Rinsing the Champagne
2008-10-05 09:34
by Jon Weisman

Mercy, the excitement. Russell Martin flying in the air to congratulate an ebullient Manny Ramirez on scoring from first base on James Loney's double at the start of Saturday's National League Division Series finale. Jonathan Broxton in full roar after striking out Alfonso Soriano to end the game. The fans. It was some night.

Make no mistake - there was tension. Martin nearly got himself thrown out at third base on Ramirez's first-inning single - I'm told replays indicated he was out - a play that could have turned the entire evening around.

Beyond that, one of the weird aspects of Saturday's game was that Hiroki Kuroda was getting two strikes on numerous hitters without being able to close them out. The crowd would rise, waving their rally washcloths, but the batters kept making contact. My brother and I looked at each other at one point and said to each other, "This isn't working."

Then in the fifth inning, after surviving by getting outs at just the right time (the Cubs left six runners on in the first four innings), Kuroda got hot. He got his first strikeout of the game to close out a one-two-three fifth, then whiffed the final two batters in a perfect sixth.

That Kuroda was getting hotter as the game went on set up Joe Torre for a potential series-changing trap. Leading 3-0, the Dodgers had Blake DeWitt on third base with two out and Kuroda due up. Kuroda had passed the 90-pitch mark, which meant that he only had about 20 pitches left in him - the equivalent of one inning. But impressed by the previous two innings, Torre let Kuroda bat for himself.

The worst happened. Kuroda struck out, then got only one out in the top of the seventh, leaving with runners at first and second (admittedly, Ryan Theriot reached on what could have been ruled an error on Rafael Furcal). Suddenly, the Cubs had the tying run up.

The reason that Torre could have pinch-hit for Kuroda is the reason he was able to get by without pinch-hitting for him. Cory Wade, once again, did the job, retiring Soriano and Mike Fontenot (the latter on a flyball over a hesitiating Matt Kemp's head that he jumped to catch.)

From the moment he brought Wade into the game, Torre managed the bullpen perfectly. He didn't worry about roles. He didn't worry about what inning it was. He just looked at who was most likely on the staff to get the next out. He used Wade until it was Broxton time (after the Cubs finally scored with two out in the eighth, and had the tying run at the plate again), and instead of taking Broxton out just because it was the ninth inning, he kept him in.

This was not a vote of no-confidence in Takashi Saito. It was recognition that you don't take out a pitcher who has his best stuff and has only thrown six pitches, just because it's the Closer Inning.

Some Broxton games are better than others. This was one of his best. Hopefully, it was on a big enough stage for people to remember.

* * *

You always hear talk about hitting with runners in scoring position. But a huge key to this game was the Dodgers' pitching with runners in scoring position. Think about it: the Cubs stranded runners on second or third in the first, third, fourth, seventh and eighth innings of a 3-1 loss. The Dodgers dominated this series, but this was a game won by a razor-thin margin.

The Dodgers only needed to use seven pitchers to get their 81 outs, including Saito, who got none. Wade and Broxton pitched in every game of the series, a luxury they won't have in the next round. But do not fear. The team has weapons it didn't even use this past week.

* * *

In speaking with Tony Jackson of the Daily News, Ned Colletti passed some credit for the NLDS victory to his scouts.

"There are two unsung heroes in all this, and they are (special assistants) Toney Howell and Vance Lovelace," Colletti said in the clubhouse as champagne sprayed in all directions around him. "They were (advance scouting) those guys (the Cubs), and they did a wonderful job learning them and finding out everything about them. Toney was on them for a couple of weeks, and Vance was there for eight or nine days. They brought that information to the coaching staff and the manager, and they executed it to a T. Toney and Vance have a love and a passion for it, and they apply that day in and day out.

"I hated to say goodbye to Toney and Vance, but they have moved on to watch a couple of other clubs now."

* * *

So, remember when it looked like Rafael Furcal would not play again for the Dodgers this year, and it looked like his best chance for returning to the team might be on a one-year, prove-himself-again contract? With the playoffs, Furcal is reemerging as an elite free agent, which might mean Dodger fans should enjoy him while they still can. Ramirez, Furcal, Derek Lowe - three leading cogs that all might be on their way out after this month.

* * *

From Tom Singer at MLB.com: "Of the previous 21 teams to sweep Division Series, only nine went on to LCS triumphs, six of eight in the AL but only three of 13 in the NL."

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So who was your NLDS MVP? Ramirez had the best numbers, but Loney had the crushing hits in two of three victories.

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2008-10-05 09:46:13
1.   milkshakeballa
The real "MVP" was the Dodgers pitching, but giving it to a single player....without a doubt James Loney. Coming out party for the young man. And wow, Brox, I was pumped. He was UNHITTABLE last night. Absolutely UNHITTABLE.
2008-10-05 09:46:44
2.   MC Safety
Weird Game James gets the MVP in my book.
2008-10-05 09:49:18
3.   MonkeyBlue
The would give it to the pitching staff....or Loney.
2008-10-05 09:51:35
4.   schoffle
0

That was quite an amazing game, and I do think that Martin was out at 3rd but I think that you are giving Torre some undeserved credit saying that:

"From the moment he brought Wade into the game, Torre managed the bullpen perfectly"

I am still wondering why Wade was not pulled for Beimel when Daryel Ward came to bat, why bother to warm up Beimel if you are not going to use him with a man in scoring position and a lefty coming in? That well could have been a turning point had Broxton not bailed out Torre.

But what a great win for the Dodgers, any word on on Kuo's availablity for the Phillies left handed lineup?

2008-10-05 09:51:36
5.   Tangled Up in Blue
Loney deserves MVP but Martin should get some consideration as well. His double against Zambrano changed the series, IMHO. He was the guy who kept the pressure on for the Dodgers.

I am still in shock from last night.

2008-10-05 09:53:52
6.   Marty
I'll say Martin was the MVP. Did TBS actually award one?
2008-10-05 09:54:04
7.   Bob Timmermann
I have a game thread open for all three games today, which are pretty much just going to run into each other in terms of start times.
http://griddle.baseballtoaster.com/archives/1153051.html
2008-10-05 09:56:33
8.   tethier
Why not a group MVP? Martin, Manny, Loney and Wade.
2008-10-05 09:57:12
9.   tethier
LAT'D from the previous thread.

What a great day to be a Dodger fan! It's been a long time coming.

I'm old enough to remember back to the 1960's teams and the powerhouse teams of the mid-late 70's. I haven't felt so good about the Dodgers as a playoff team since the 1970's - even though they won in '81 and '88. The current team is vastly underrated (for the moment) and even if we lose the league championship I can't see a blowout coming.

One thing that concerns me, slightly, is Ethier's lack of production. He hasn't looked awful by any means and I keep telling myself he's just been a bit unlucky and he will turn it around in the next series. Maybe he needs to hit in front of Manny? What is everyone else's take on this? I'd hate to see Torre "rest" him and put Pierre in. I'm also not sold on Ethier and Loney hitting back to back. They are too vunerable to the LOOGY.

2008-10-05 09:58:32
10.   Jon Weisman
If Loney doesn't get that slam, I think it's an entirely different series.
2008-10-05 09:58:34
11.   Frip
It would be strange being a man like Van and having your last name be Lovelace. (I'm not referring to the porn star). Especially in baseball. It's just such a feminine sounding name. You couldn't GET a more womanly name unless it was Daisy, or like, Froofroo.
2008-10-05 09:59:35
12.   Jon Weisman
9 - It was three games. Don't panic about Ethier. He OBPed .357 and nearly hit a three-run homer last night.
2008-10-05 10:04:27
13.   CodyS
I thought Martin was out watching it live. But the replay showed that even though the throw was there in plenty of time, Martin's hand was on the bag before Ramirez tagged him on the shoulder. I was amazed the umpire could get that right. very good job by the ump to see that.
2008-10-05 10:04:30
14.   Tangled Up in Blue
10 Its tough to argue with that. Martin's double showed that the Dodgers weren't going away.

As I said, Loney is MVP.

2008-10-05 10:04:36
15.   Humma Kavula
I was at the game last night -- I have a lot to say but I'm about to leave the house to spend some time with the family. I will check in later... but before I go, Mrs. K and I have a question about Kuroda not getting the K.

From our vantage point, it was impossible to tell if Kuroda was getting close strike calls, but we DID notice that (I believe -- tell me if I'm wrong) that neither side had a called strike three all game. The ump would call strikes, but all the strike threes (strikes three?) were swinging.

Did the ump have an especially tight zone? Was he simply refusing to call batters out on anything close?

I'm checking out now but would love to know others' opinions.

2008-10-05 10:05:40
16.   tethier
12 I guess it's more I'm panicking that Torre will panic. :-)

I will say, he seems much calmer lately now that he knows the veterans know their place.

2008-10-05 10:06:07
17.   Bluebleeder87
Broxton truly was nasty yesterday even Eckersley was giving him props... & I have to agree with the advance scout thing, the Dodger pitching staff (collectively) made the Cubbies look pretty bad at times.

NLCS here we come.

2008-10-05 10:07:19
18.   Bob Timmermann
I think Vance Lovelace's scouting has shown that trading Ron Cey to the Cubs was a good idea.
2008-10-05 10:09:25
19.   Tangled Up in Blue
Kemp has looked lost of late as well. I am hoping he turns it around next series.
2008-10-05 10:09:49
20.   MC Safety
9 I heard someone say the Cubs didn't have a decent lefty outside of Marshall, who is more of a long guy.
2008-10-05 10:11:41
21.   Fish
While I loved the game, my favorite moment to watch on TV was the celebration after. Saw Nomar and Kent clowning it up with the younger players, and Kershaw just going crazy. Then, during Torre's press conference, he was often drowned out by the celebration in the other room. Loved when he asked one of the reporters, "Are those your friends?"
2008-10-05 10:24:27
22.   Jon Weisman
Broxton's NLDS line: 3 1/3 innings, no hits, two walks, five strikeouts, two groundouts, two flyouts, one line drive.

12 batters, 56 pitches (4.67 per batter - that is a lot), 35 for strikes.

Two inherited runners, both stranded.

2008-10-05 10:30:11
23.   Bob Hendley
Lets here it for the starters as MVPs. They came up big with our BP,a previous strength, now on the thin side. For heaven's sake, without Hiro coming on strong in the last few innings, Park might have been in for a high leverage situation (admire the guy, but he has been down lately). At this point, I wouldn't mind seeing Proctor back in there. And lets pray that Sammy and Kuo come back strong.
2008-10-05 10:30:48
24.   tethier
20 Cotts looked pretty good against Ethier, Loney and Kemp last night.
2008-10-05 10:33:29
25.   tethier
23 Sammy and Kuo come back strong.

If that were to happen, the Dodgers would be worldbeaters. Would be nice.

2008-10-05 10:34:33
26.   Bluebleeder87
20

it might seem weird but I busted out laughing at that.

2008-10-05 10:37:34
27.   Robert Fiore
I have a feeling this is a Bob Timmerman question: Has a General Manager ever been fired after his team won a pennant? Immediately I'm thinking of Branch Rickey, but technically he was bought out.
2008-10-05 10:37:40
28.   tethier
21 Saw Nomar and Kent clowning it up with the younger players, and Kershaw just going crazy.

That's great. Even though many players did not get in to the series, I think everybody knows, that if the Dodgers are to go all the way, everyone will have to contribute. I can definitely see those three coming through in some way.

2008-10-05 10:40:01
29.   Fish
Bought a plane ticket from MSP to LAX and four tickets to Sunday's Game 3, assuming the Phillies hold on today.
2008-10-05 10:42:03
30.   LogikReader
Is this not the first ever Dodger Thoughts coverage of a Dodger NLCS? What wonderful times these are!
2008-10-05 10:45:59
31.   Bob Timmermann
27
Bing Devine was fired while his team was winning a pennant in 1964. Although they weren't in first place at the time of his firing. Bob Howsam replaced him.

Rickey wasn't fired after 1942. The Dodgers just hired him away, although Rickey and Breadon were headed for a parting of the ways.

The Yankees owners bought out Larry MacPhail after the 1947 World Series because he kept causing problems.

In 1890, Brooklyn manager Bill McGunnigle, who operated as a general manager in that era as well, was let go after leading Brooklyn to its second straight pennant. But that was because Brooklyn pretty much had to hire Monte Ward to run the team, as he was considered one of the best players in the game at the time.

2008-10-05 10:48:55
32.   Bob Timmermann
30
Jon blogged the 1988 NLCS by writing his thoughts on a piece of paper in his apartment and asking people to come by and write comments underneath it.

It wasn't a success.

2008-10-05 10:50:35
33.   RELX
As some many have said, great win, shocking win, surprising win, unbelievable win.

One thing I disagree with from your post, Jon: I do think Torre's use of Broxton in the ninth was a vote of no confidence in Saito. Nothing against Sammy, but he is basically pitching with a torn ligament in his elbow, and even though that experimental injection is allowing him to pitch with some effectiveness, he is not that pitcher we watched for his first 2 1/2 seasons as a Dodger.

While I don't expect Torre to publicly announce it, I expect Broxton to be the closer from now on.

2008-10-05 10:50:39
34.   Bob Hendley
31 - As I recall, 1964 also ended up with moves by the pennant-winning managers.
2008-10-05 10:52:31
35.   Louis in SF
Must say that watching the game taped begining at 1am, I have thought the TBS coverage has been quite good. Everyone seems to have acknowledged the role that Torre has played with managing the young and the older Dodger players, but Torre having the confidence, faith and smarts to go with the talent down the stretch.

If we play the Philadelphia, I think we will see a leadoff homer by Raffy at that ballpark.

2008-10-05 10:52:34
36.   Fish
If it's the Phillies, do we give Clayton a start--albeit with a short leash to Maddux/Kuo?
2008-10-05 10:53:16
37.   Bob Hendley
33 - In the press conference Torre basically said that not PHing for Hiro was because he was unsure of Sammy and that he hoped to work him in during the next series.
2008-10-05 10:58:46
38.   overkill94
Man I'm glad the Dodgers didn't do the thunderstick thing - the Brewers fans look pretty stupid pounding away on those things.
2008-10-05 10:59:33
39.   MollyKnight
One thing I'm sort of worried about is that the Dodgers will lose momentum with five days off. Is that a valid concern? Or am I just paranoid?
2008-10-05 11:02:33
40.   ToyCannon
10
And that is why Sweet Baby James is the MVP. Martin was awesome with all those doubles. Busted the ball hard in games one and three.
2008-10-05 11:03:16
41.   Fish
It'll be the Phillies! My travel plans work!
2008-10-05 11:03:48
42.   ToyCannon
39
Is that the schedule even if Philly close out today?
2008-10-05 11:03:50
43.   Tripon
Phillies 4-0 on a Pat Burell 3 run homer in the top of the 3rd inning.
2008-10-05 11:04:57
44.   Tripon
5-0 On a Jayson Werth solo homer.
2008-10-05 11:05:00
45.   ToyCannon
Victorino leads the charge and Werth ends it with an exclamation point.
2008-10-05 11:07:07
46.   underdog
I wonder if Dale Sveum knew Burrell's numbers vs. Suppan before IBBing Howard. Then again, choose your poison. The Phils will be a dangerous opponent, more hitters that scare me than the Cubs.

Also: I blame the Dodgers for my fairly poor performance in soccer this morning. A few celebratory beers and I'm useless in the morning. But we won. And I'm happy.

2008-10-05 11:07:14
47.   Bilshaw
Please come back to Hong Chin Kuo
2008-10-05 11:07:17
48.   bluekang
Martin was definitely safe. By the time Ramirez put the tag on his shoulder Martin's hand was on the bag.

I am happy about the lack of thundersticks too. That is what separates the Dodgers from the Angels, the Angels have thundersticks and a t-shirt shooters and crap.

2008-10-05 11:07:27
49.   LogikReader
39

I can see that, but since the Phils might close out today, I figure both clubs will have "equal momentum". It's only a one day difference.

2008-10-05 11:07:40
50.   Tripon
Were we sure we wanted the Phillies in the first round? They seem to be better than the Cubs.
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2008-10-05 11:08:29
51.   Fish
Yeah, if I'm reading this page right:

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/schedule/ps.jsp

2008-10-05 11:09:19
52.   Bob Timmermann
This isn't the NBA where the playoffs start whenever they feel it works best. The schedule is pretty much set except for weather delays.
2008-10-05 11:09:34
53.   jasonungar07
I give alot of credit to Torre. When he decided he would play our best players our season turned around.
2008-10-05 11:09:59
54.   underdog
50 I didn't want the Phils in the first round, either. I wanted the Mets! But I think this will be a good series.
2008-10-05 11:10:32
55.   Bob Hendley
39 - Didn't we have about that much time "off" after clinching. I know we played the Gnats, but still...
2008-10-05 11:11:19
56.   underdog
Where's D4P these days? He needs to be celebrating with us!
2008-10-05 11:14:18
57.   natepurcell
56

He likes to be miserable so I don't know if he would be in a celebrating mood.

2008-10-05 11:15:56
58.   JRSarno
So, Division champ status trumps Wild Card (even if Wild Card team has better record)? -- I suspected this as being the case, although several folks around me last night at the stadium authoritatively proffered that the Dodgs could "never" have home field in the NLCS. Doesn't seem like it matters anyway, Phils up 4-0.
2008-10-05 11:17:03
59.   JRSarno
Jeez, 5-0. Well... the battle of the counter sweeps in the NLCS. That Brewers crowd is silent.
2008-10-05 11:17:42
60.   KG16
I really wanted to be here last night. Really, I did. But I was playing a poker tournament and final table money was too good to do a chip dump, I hope y'all understand. Anyway, this is pretty cool. I got to watch the game, or at least most of it, from the casino.

I have to say, James Loney has to be the series MVP. The grand slam in game one, the two run double last night were game winning shots.

2008-10-05 11:19:26
61.   Bob Timmermann
58
Remember that most people are wrong.
2008-10-05 11:20:26
62.   KG16
I have a Charger-heavy roster on one of my fantasy teams. Losing 10-3 to the Miami freakin' Dolphins is not cool.

Although, I must say, Ronnie Brown is pretty good at football

2008-10-05 11:20:31
63.   DBrim
Prospects of a game 5 are not so great. The Brewer bats are good, though, and if any team can come back, it's them
2008-10-05 11:22:38
64.   ToyCannon
Best 2nd baseman in Dodger history looks to be well.
2008-10-05 11:23:33
65.   berkowit28
36 According to one Matthew Leach, who seems to be substituting for Gurnick along with a Michael Schwartz at dodgers.com (check the "sweep...1,2,3" article), Kershaw will be the starter for the 4th game in the NLCS. He doesn't quote anyone in the Dodgers organization for that statement, so he may be making assumptions or making it up; or he may have an inside track.
2008-10-05 11:23:56
66.   KG16
63 - not if they continue to make the bat miss the ball.

There are way too many old friends coaching in other organizations. I mean, I understand that guys take the jobs that are available, but there's something not right about seeing Scioscia and Mickey Hatcher in Angels uniforms, or Davey Lopes in a Phillies uniform. It'd really be nice if we had more former Dodgers on the coaching staff.

2008-10-05 11:24:30
67.   Bilshaw
NLCS

Derek Lowe @ Cole Hamels
Chad Billingsley @ Brett Myers
Hiroki Kuroda @ Jamie Moyer
Greg Maddux or Clayton Kershaw @ Joe Blanton

2008-10-05 11:31:58
68.   KG16
67 - Maddux should not pitch in Philly.
2008-10-05 11:33:54
69.   Eric L
68 Game 4 would be in LA.
2008-10-05 11:37:06
70.   Eric L
I wish I would have been able to watch the game last night. I agreed to chaperon a field trip to the UCLA game last night. When my wife signed us up, I had no idea that the Dodgers would be in position to punch their ticket to the NLCS.

Other than that, I'm happy to report that WSU is rather terrible football team.

2008-10-05 11:37:56
71.   Branch Rickey
http://tinyurl.com/43ezek

Some fun pictures from last night, including celebration.
Click on the 10/4/08 Gallery.

2008-10-05 12:08:00
72.   KG16
69 - in my defense, I'm running on about 6 hours of sleep.
2008-10-05 12:20:34
73.   dkminnick
So much to say about last night. My throat is still sore from screaming all night long. I was so impressed with the energy and noise in the Stadium last night. I truly don't ever remember it being that loud - except for the night of Gibson's home run. I wonder, did that energy come across on TV? Did any any announcers or writers anywhere give Dodger fans some props?

Also, I've got a little story to share if I can violate Rule 1 in Spanish. May I get a ruling, Philosopher King?

2008-10-05 12:25:27
74.   22 Gallons
71 - thanks for sharing the great pix
2008-10-05 12:25:50
75.   LoneStar7
71 I love the pictures of pee wee with a broom haha
2008-10-05 12:32:59
76.   Tripon
Pat Burnell hits another homer to make it 6-1.
2008-10-05 12:46:26
77.   scareduck
It was oddly anticlimactic; unlike Jon, I felt the Dodgers had the game in the bag all along. Harden's poor postseason ERAs (mainly due to poor health down the stretch) and the Cubs' comprehensible but self-defeating failure to use Fukudome against the one pitcher he should have known fairly well, the Cubs were pretty much sunk from after the first-inning play didn't go their way.
2008-10-05 12:48:20
78.   Cannonball
Howsabout Lowe as the game 4 starter on 3 days if possible? That puts Billz on for game 5 on normal rest, with Lowe maybe available for game 6 (on 3 days again) if needed.
2008-10-05 12:50:47
79.   Preston Bannard
With a day off between games 4 and 5 of the LCS (because god forbid a potential game 7 is on a Friday), in addition to the normal travel days, the Dodgers can throw Lowe in Games 1, 4, and 7 and Billingsley in 2 and 5, with only Lowe going on short rest in game 4. Given that they were willing to that in the Cubs series, I imagine we'll see the same in the NLCS.

Frankly, given that the Phillies have a balanced lineup (2 switch, 3 righties, 2 lefties, 1 platoon), unlike the righty-heavy Cubs, I hope to see Lowe 3 times, who is by far our most effective starter against such a lineup (.633 OPS against lefties, .635 against righties); both Billingsley and Kuroda allow .100 or so points higher OPS verse lefties; also, a 3 man rotation gives us more match-up options in the pen.

2008-10-05 12:54:22
80.   scareduck
79 - you could hope to draw the inside straight by going with Kershaw.
2008-10-05 12:56:32
81.   Tripon
I rather not have Lowe pitch on 3 days rest three times in a series. That'll be asking for two losses in those games. Our bullpen's deep, but not that deep. I rather trust Kuroda and kershaw over 3 starts of a diminished Lowe.
2008-10-05 12:59:34
82.   Jacob Burch
COLTS WIN! COLTS WIN! COLTS WIN!
2008-10-05 13:02:18
83.   Tripon
Phillies win 6-2. Dodgers are going on a road trip!
2008-10-05 13:19:06
84.   Icaros
I think this is the first time I've rooted for the New England Patriots since the Tuck Game against Oakland.
2008-10-05 13:32:58
85.   Disabled List
I agree with everything Jon wrote in regard to Torre's use of the bullpen last night, which was masterful. Except, I do think Torre was determined not to use Saito.

Sammy was pounded hard on Thursday, leaving Torre with a thin bullpen. He didn't want to use the lefties (Beimel and Kershaw) against the Cubs' all-RH lineup, he knew McDonald is too green to come into that situation, and Chan Ho is nothing more than a long reliever at this point. That meant Torre could either use Maddux as his 7th inning guy, or he could stretch the three guys he knew he could count on (Kuroda, Wade, Broxton) as long as he could to fill up that extra inning.

He decided to let Kuroda hit in the 6th inning, hoping he could make it through 7. The fallback plan would be to use Wade and Broxton each for 3+ out appearances if Hiro couldn't finish the 7th. Which is exactly what happened. It was tremendous tactical managing by Torre. I've been as tough on Joe as anyone here, but he came up huge last night.

2008-10-05 13:34:16
86.   DBrim
I'd rather not see kuroda pitch on the road, period. Just throwing that out there
2008-10-05 13:45:55
87.   Bumsrap
Will Nomar start at first against Cole?

MVPs = Loney, Lowe, Billingsley, Kuroda, Broxton

2008-10-05 13:46:50
88.   gpellamjr
87 My guess is that yes, either Nomar or Kent will start at 1st in game 1.
2008-10-05 13:49:18
89.   Bumsrap
I think the Dodgers have enough middle infield strength and should spend money for Sabathia and then a third baseman.
2008-10-05 13:57:55
90.   Gagne55
79 They changed the format? It used to be offdays after games 2 and 5.
2008-10-05 13:58:35
91.   Fish
My goodness Werth had a tremendous season.
2008-10-05 14:01:48
92.   KG16
89 - I really don't want to look too far into the future, mainly the off season. I'm rather enjoying an extended stay in the post season. But...

I think everything starts with Manny this off season. My hunch is that they resign him for 3 or 4 years, for a very big chunk of money. I also suspect that Jones will be traded or designated for assignment, and Pierre will also be on the trading block. I could see resigning Blake to a 2 year deal while they develop someone in the minors to take over. I'm not sure the Dodgers need more pitching, even with Penny and Lowe leaving (Billingsly, Kuroda, Kershaw, McDonald as a front four isn't too bad) but CC wouldn't be a bad acquisition, the question is whether the Dodgers would be willing to pay for him.

2008-10-05 14:10:11
93.   Tripon
We can trade JP to the Cubs!
2008-10-05 14:11:07
94.   Fish
I don't think anyone would take Pierre or Jones at this point, and there's no way we sign both Manny and CC. Frankly, I'd rather spend $15MM/season for Lowe than $24MM/season for Sabathia anyway.

Can McDonald really start next year? And what to do with Clay's innings?

2008-10-05 14:12:32
95.   Bob Timmermann
There was a guy in my section last night wearing a Juan Pierre Cubs jersey. His friend was wearing a t-shirt for Torgo's Pizza.
2008-10-05 14:12:44
96.   seesdifferent
Torre made an obvious mistake by not pinch hitting for Kuroda with a runner in scoring position when he already had 92 pitches, then Torre compounds it by clinging to the mistake by not taking him out/ bringing in the lefty to get Ward. Not good work by Joe.
2008-10-05 14:15:46
97.   Bumsrap
96 - Smart, great, amazing, intelligent decisions will get you fired if they don't wo