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Dodger home record: 50-35 (.588)
When Jon attended: 9-5 (.643)
When Jon didn't: 41-30 (.577)
Dodgers at home: 795-635 (.556)
Jon attended: 302-238 (.559)*
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* includes road games attended
Current Roster with Estimated 2009 Salaries
(updated November 14)
Most figures are estimates (some are wild estimates) but will be updated as information comes in. Corrections welcome.
More contract details here.
Starting Pitchers (5)
$10,000,000 Hiroki Kuroda
*$475,000 Chad Billingsley
*$415,000 Clayton Kershaw
*$405,000 Eric Stults
*$400,000 James McDonald
*Total: $11,695,000
Bullpen (7)
*$2,500,000 Takashi Saito
*$1,300,000 Scott Proctor
*$1,500,000 Jonathan Broxton
*$425,000 Hong-Chih Kuo
*$420,000 Cory Wade
*$410,000 Ramon Troncoso
*$400,000 Scott Elbert
Total: $6,955,000
Also on 40-man roster
Mario Alvarez
Yhency Brazoban
Greg Miller
Justin Orenduff
Starting Lineup (8)
$17,100,000 Andruw Jones
*$3,000,000 Russell Martin
*$2,500,000 Andre Ethier
*$600,000 Matt Kemp
*$600,000 James Loney
*$500,000 Angel Berroa
*$410,000 Blake DeWitt
*$400,000 Tony Abreu
Total: $25,110,000
Bench (5)
$10,000,000 Juan Pierre
*$600,000 Jason Repko
*$410,000 Delwyn Young
*$400,000 Danny Ardoin
*$400,000 Chin-Lung Hu
Total: $11,810,000
Note: Team can buy out Ozuna's 2009 option for $200,000
Also on 40-man roster
A.J. Ellis
Lucas May
Xavier Paul
Disabled List
$12,000,000 Jason Schmidt
Also Paying ...
$2,000,000 Brad Penny (buyout of $9,000,000 option)
$50,000 Gary Bennett (buyout of $900,000 option)
Note: Kansas City is responsible for $500,000 buyout of Angel Berroa's $5,500,000 option for 2009.
Working total: *$68,020,000
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Mike Scioscia's Tragic Illness has the starting lineup of the Dodgers' first game against Jamie Moyer - on July 10, 1986:
1. Bill Russell RF (RF?!)
2. Steve Sax 2B
3. Ken Landreaux LF
4. Enos Cabell 1B
5. Jeff Hamilton 3B
6. Reggie Williams CF
7. Mariano Duncan SS
8. Jack Fimple C
9. Orel Hershiser P
In that game, Davey Lopes started at third base for the Cubs over Ron Cey. Greg Maddux made his major-league debut for Chicago two months later.
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Speaking of obscure but memorable Dodgers, minor-league coach Garey Ingram and two others have been let go by the team, reports Tony Jackson of the Daily News.
I'll maybe check in later, go blue!
Sax almost won the batting title in 1986.
I get it that Loney has done well in the past against Moyer, and that he doesn't have the dexterity for handling 3rd base. But is he really going to get more hits than Loney? Can there be some other reason for starting him over Loney?
During Landreaux's entire career, he had a reputation for a poor work ethic and not living up to his ability. When the Angels and Twins traded him, his teammates were not sorry to see him go.
Nomar hits Moyer very well Berkowit28... I'm cool with it (lefty righty) but like Bob says once Moyer is out bring in Loney.
Rollins, SS
Victorino, CF
Utley, 2B
Howard, 1B
Burrell, LF
Werth, RF
Feliz, 3B
Ruiz, C
Moyer, LHP
Furcal, SS
Ethier, RF
Ramirez, LF
Martin, C
Nomar, 1B
Blake, 3B
Kemp, CF
DeWitt, 2B
Kuroda, RHP
-Alan
During a game last year me and my brother had a conversation about the worst Dodgers we'd ever seen play. I gave my argument for Mel Rojas, Alan Mills and Shelby. My brother went on this huge rant about how he hated Ken Landreaux.
Turns out the woman seated in front of us was his sister in law and she called him down from where he was sitting to sit with.
Never met a better guy. Great baseball talk and had great things to say about Loney and Delwyn Young.
Weird, eh?
the guy had not played in about a week, relax man... besides he OWNS Moyer.
It was one at bat.
Against a very good closer.
In a high pressure situation.
Tonight he's facing Moyer, not Lidge. He's starting, not pinch hitting. And look at his career numbers and season splits and not just one at bat.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/melissa_segura/10/09/dodgers.scouting/index.html?eref=T1
"White has led the last seven Dodger drafts, three of which have been ranked in the top five by Baseball America. Every Dodgers first-round pick from 2002 to '06 has made the majors, giving the team an astounding 100 percent rate of return on its first-rounders when the industry standard is around 65 percent. White's work has earned him a spot on the hot list of potential GM candidates, talk he slinks away from. An industry source indicates that it might be tough to pry him away from the Dodgers because of his loyalty to the McCourt family, which owns the team."
I see your point, however, my initial response was geared towards your assessment that Nomar's at bat was atrocious and that he was being "rewarded" for it.
He's getting a start today because of his career numbers. Whether it be an old Nomar or new Nomar the fact is that the current Nomar is facing the current Moyer.
Loney is hot, so I think it's risky, but I do see the logic in it even if I'm not sure I agree with the move.
Not that the Dodgers did all that well against the middle relievers in the first two games.
I also agree that once Moyer is out of the game or the fifth inning comes Nomar will be out of the game, whichever comes last.
Of Josh Beckett's 93 pitches last night, Rays batters swung and missed at two of them.
That's Ericksonian.
As for Seattle, maybe they're just interested in the more experienced executive.
I like the move (really like the move) he like Kuroda are SICK at home.
Is Ray Burris starting for the Phillies?
For all our wide-ranging discussion and speculation, the truth is we really know very little about Logan White, and even less about Kim Ng, in the sense of how they would operate as top-level decision makers.
Not that I wouldn't welcome the opportunity to find out more...
Seriously.
and Sarah Palin isn't even there.
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