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Morning Briefing, the lighthearted creation of late Times staffer Harley Tinkham that has greeted readers of the paper's sports section almost my entire life, is an apparent casualty of the redesign that was unveiled today. Seems a shame, but I guess time marches on ...
As for the redesign itself - it's more nondescript than I expected, but it seems to accentuate the more minimalist Times we've had to get used to.
Okay, so I will miss 2 out of 3.
Did you get my message?
Part of it is the dodgers enabling a guy who just wasn't right for some reason, but part of it is Andruw Jones just not getting it all year and thinking he can play on his limited ability this year.
Are they redesigning the web pages?
The only time I handle newsprint anymore is when my 70+ parents go on vacation and I pick up their newspaper. And they take the Daily News; can't even remember the last time I read a Times article on newsprint.
He constantly rushed himself when everyone knew he wasn't 100%
I'll give Andruw a pass for July when Pierre was on the DL. The club had a legitimate shortage of OF at the time and Andruw's return was a calculated risk.
Fox Sports has a blurb up.
"Report: Andruw Jones to ask Dodgers for trade
Andruw Jones has told friends that he plans to approach the Dodgers and ask them to trade him. After hiding their excitement, the Dodgers will then have to find a suitor and determine how much of the $22.1 million they still owe him that they'll have to eat. Jones' first choice would likely be to return home to the Braves. But even at a cost of $2 million, the Braves likely aren't going to be willing to accommodate this homecoming. While hitting .158 with three homers and 14 RBIs in 75 games this past season, Jones said he was bothered by a sore knee. Members of the Braves organization said that he was bothered by the same knee discomfort during his days in Atlanta. -- AtlantaBraves.com "
Jones shows up at Spring Training at his Blimp weight, Dodgers need to go after his contract for being unfit to play.
I love newspapers, love the format, love the smell, love how you can carry them from the couch...to the breakfast table...to the can..to the backyard and pass it along when you are done. I love that when I wake up and walk outside something physical that I am looking forward to has been delivered for me.
I love everything about them except for the diminishing quality and losing things like the Morning Briefing
I dont think MLB contracts have those sorts of clauses.
Also, he may just be done as an effective player, weight loss or not. He's been terrible for 2 years in a row. He's old in playing years (and in real years could be older than he lists, who knows).
I thought Eric Davis/Darryl Strawberry would be the worst high dollar free agent/trade OF busts in Dodger history.
Druw/Pierre are worse.
I don't miss Morning Briefing too much (I know, it's only been a day), it lost it's former charm.
I think Repko is an AAAA OF at this point, not a 4th OF - next year is his age 28 season. I leave it as an exercise to the reader to determine what Pierre is at this point.
I usually read online, but I was solicited recently and now have the Times delivered Thursday through Sunday for a mere 75¢ per week. I do like on the weekends sitting on the couch or at the table having the paper spread out in front of me to read.
If Jones does show up overweight, it puts both Jones and the Dodgers in a serious bind. It keeps Jones in L.A., because he will be untradeable. It keeps him on the bench, because he will be unplayable. And it keeps him on the Dodgers, because if they were to go after him for being unfit to play, I think a whole lot of free agents would, going forward, avoid dealing with the Dodgers. ("Hey, I'm not going to park my free agent with your team on a four-year deal -- if something happens to him in year two, are you going to decide that you don't have to pay him?")
Saw this on MLBTR:
MLB.com's Chris Haft heard the Twins covet Matt Cain and would be willing to trade Delmon Young for him. Haft does not believe the Giants would make the one-for-one swap.
(Oh, please, please, do it Giants, do it!)
At this point, 7 years removed from 9/11, and with heightened security in place for years, can't we assume someone like Andruw -- traveling in and out of the county during the offseason every year -- has the proper documentation and is really his actual age?
Insert Biblical joke here.
And the female Chinese Gymnastic Olympians were all 16 or older.
I think it would be hilarious if Cain goes somewhere else -- like Minnesota -- and pitches the same but ends up with like a 19-4 record, just the complete other end of the luck spectrum.
There have been 53 pitchers with 350 IP and a 100 ERA+ from 2007-2008. Only 7 have a losing record, and only one is more than 4 games under:
Gil Meche: 23-24, 121 ERA+
Matt Cain: 15-30, 118 ERA+
John Danks: 18-22, 110 ERA+
Aaron Harang: 22-23, 109 ERA+
Doug Davis: 19-20, 108 ERA+
Wandy Rodriguez: 18-20, 105 ERA+
Bronson Arroyo: 24-26, 102 ERA+
http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/7yBm
That was minimum 300 IP.
I am old enough to remember my family taking both the morning Times and the afternoon Herald-Examiner, so I do have some fond memories of reading newspapers, but as 30 points out, times seems to permit no longer.
1) I definitely like the uniform typefaces. Surrendering to the mid-90's Wired typographic schizophrenia was a bad idea.
2) I guess I didn't notice the "Morning Briefing". Everybody's cutting back on print space; for those upthread who think the Times is thin, the Register is a pamphlet in comparison, as is the Long Beach Press-Telegram.
Ned may have worked out the details, but Frank initiated the trade process. I think he had visions of Manny, Lowe, Nomar and Varitek playing together again, but for the LAD. Not going to hapen.
Martin and Kershaw for Paul Byrd, Dave Ross, Coco Crisp, and Alex Cora.
Boom! We get a starting pitcher, catcher, centerfielder, and shortstop.
Ned's work here is done.
Buck Martinez will be very happy.
I'm not happy about that.
That requires too much work.
3 - I wouldn't mind taking a look at Abreu if Manny goes elsewhere. He still has some pop and good OBP.
I'm sorry Jon but I had to let that out...
The Internet is OK for catching up on the news, or, especially when you no longer live in an area,a great way to stay connected. That said, the flow of leafing through pages cannot be replicated in 2 dimensions. Curling up with a loved one on the couch with a laptop just isn't the same.
Progress isn't always so.....
Kobe Bryant has been booed in L.A. so I'm not sure if quality of play has a lot to do with it.
At least Andruw Jones hasn't had the temerity yet to do something horrible like Shawn Green and agree to be traded in order to improve the team! That horrible, horrible, horrible man!
Nothing wrong with throwing out feelers, you never know who will overpay.
They may not be interested in trading Martin because of makeup as much as the idea he was uninterested in signing a contract and they don't want to go to arbitration year after year and have battles throughout his Dodger career.
Boston certainly has players I'd trade Martin for:
Pedroia, Youkilis, Lester
but with our luck we'd end up with Lowell and Lugo and sign Varitek as a FA.
I always assumed it had to do with giving out poisoned batting gloves after hitting a HR (think final moment of 24 season 2).
TO: Ned Colletti
FROM: Ken Noe
RE: Russell Martin
You could get away with moving Martin, and even with Varitek as a stop-gap, if you had Carlos Santana in the wings. Remember him?
How many times must it be repeated, if there is anything that can be said about the Ned Colletti led front office, they rarely if ever, send out feelers via the media.
Apparently, Jose Canseco will fight Danny Bonaduce in January. It's like Christmas getting extended a whole month! :)
What is happening to the LA Times is breaking my heart. Otis Chandler would puke if he were alive today. Every time I come back to Los Angeles, the paper seems to be thinner and less substantive than the last time I saw it. I really wonder what it's going to look like in a few years.
In other words, this never happens. This sounds like other execs coveting Martin and trying to drive down the price.
I think a Martin for Youkilis trade is the kind of deal that would be made and would fill the hole at third base we have had since Beltre left.
But as it has been said, THERE IS NO ONE TO REPLACE MARTIN...ANYWHERE. This is one of the worst shortages of catching talent the league has seen in quite some time. We would be creating a huge hole to fill a smaller one.
Now I'm grumpy.
Dodgers trade Martin to Red Sox for a combination of Lester/Pedroia/Youk.
Dodgers then trade for Mike Napoli for Hu.
Everyone wins! Well, until Napoli breaks down.
http://tinyurl.com/3roeb6
...and I came across this pretty funny Rickey Henderson story (not as good as probably 10 others) from Eck as well:
http://tinyurl.com/5quxzu
He may have had value as a "defensive" CFer with speed and batting average, until his arm was really exposed.
As a speedy, no-arm, no-power LFer, who no longer hits for average, nor gets on base, there just isn't demand outside of a 4th outfielder at best.
Flanders vs. Theo.
SportsNation Rob Neyer: No, I would not. Kershaw and McDonald, maybe, based on the old bird-in-the-hand theory. But Kemp's going to be an outstanding major league hitter for many years. If the Dodgers don't re-sign Manny, they're going to need Kemp.
Jerry (Seattle): Any insight on the Mariners GM situation?
SportsNation Rob Neyer: Nope. I just hope Kim Ng gets the job, because it would be a great story.
http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=23136
SportsNation Rob Neyer: One sticking point: I'm not sure Kemp is a center fielder for much longer. I think he's about to grow out of the position (if he hasn't already). Also, do the Dodgers need another young starter? Can't Jamie McDonald be that guy if they want one?
Theo: You bet Ned. Now let's talk about a deal for your current roster....
If Kemp can no longer play CF, how does that figure into the possible plan to sign Manny?
What does "grow out of the position" mean? How bad would Kemp be? How much would he cost the team on defense? How much of Kemp's value is tied into the fact that he can play a reasonable center field? If he can no longer play CF, how much does he need to improve to retain his value?
Matt Kemp is my favorite player on the Dodgers, but there are a lot of questions that he can answer by taking a big step forward next year.
Who knows, maybe Lambo can learn how to play CF. ...Probably not. Strange-Gordon might be switching a position if Furcal is retained and DeJesus takes 2nd.
Funny. I'd be much more willing to trade Kemp than Kershaw.
Also, first comment from the iPhone
http://tinyurl.com/100Dodgerthings
It's eligible for free shipping!
http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/Hb3r
I think it will be awhile before Kemp is too slow or not quick enough to play CF.
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice. Congrats, Jon!
I'm waiting for the audio version with narration by Rick Monday and Steve "Psycho" Lyons.
Only Bob will get this reference.
Autographed copies?
113 - Ask Suffering Bruin ...
111 - I know you meant well.
I liked it better when I had the only BODT signed copy.
1) Attend a DT picnic
2) Email a Dodger beat writer
3) Borrow one of Shimmin's pens for Jon to sign your book, then "forget" to return pen
4) Look up the meaning of a word used by Bob
5) Attend a Dodger road game with fellow DTers
Point (5) requires at least two members of the attending party to have an active DT screen name. :)
Borrowing a pen might be the Holy Grail of Dodger Thoughts though.
8) Watch Freaks & Geeks (which I have yet to do)
9) Live on a street that turns into a street named for Danica McKellar (I have done this one!) :)
I would like to see this before I kick the bucket.
Matty D LA: Buster, I've heard that the Dodgers are interested in seeing what they can get for Russell Martin. Are they serious? What could they get for him? What teams could be involved?
Buster Olney: (2:03 PM ET ) Matty D: Yes, I think they'll explore that. And if they decide to trade him, you can bet the Red Sox will be all over that, with Varitek's time nearing an end, whether it's two more years or less.
and this, which I have mentioned previously:
John (Boston): Buster maybe it's my east coast ignorance here, but why would the Dodgers consider moving Martin? I've only read great things about him, and his numbers last year were very good. He's gotta still be at least a top 5 catcher in mlb was it a lack of consistency this year? Please enlighten me thanks.
Buster Olney: (2:07 PM ET ) John: There are those within that organization that would like to see him make a greater commitment to his defense. I'll leave it at that.
I have about 5-6 "yes" answers and a whole bunch of maybes. This is what typically happens when I try to plan something like this. I bet about 16 people will show up, which is fine. Last time that happened we broke the teams up into 4 teams of 4 people, and rotated hitting/defense. It was still fun to just play.
Next time I visit my cousin in Pasadena, I will play (and bring him as well).
And what happened to his power...?
If Martin hit like Manny then you could ask that question. When he hits like Jason Kendall then he better be a good defensive catcher.
Not John ca. 1998 (Boston): Buster maybe it's my east coast ignorance here, but why would the Dodgers consider moving Mike Piazza? I've only read great things about him, and his numbers last year were very good. He's gotta still be at least a top 5 catcher in mlb....
Not Buster Olney ca. 1998: (2:07 PM ET ) John: There are those within that organization that would like to see him make a greater commitment to his defense. I'll leave it at that.
But they couldn't have been pleased with his defense (or commitment thereto) before they acquired him.
[Frank Sinatra, after perusing the MLB page on ESPN.com "Starwave"]
"Trade Piazza???!!!! Over my dead body!"
In honor of the election season...
"Russel Martin I knew Mike Piazza, I served with Mike Piazza, Mike Piazza was a freind of mine. Russel Martin, you are no Mike Piazza."
I know I know
I just wanted to bust out the Lloyd Bentsen line...
I only get to work that joke once every 4 years
"Bad teams blame their best player for their problems" -- Bill James
Most likely paraphrased.
Unless they asked him to do things and he refused to do it. Like work on his defense or how he took suggestions. This is all conjecture and the fact they traded Santana and batted Martin fourth during the NLCS seems to indicate they are quite happy with him.
...but we know from looking at what Pierre IS that he's not valuable as a starter. My focus on what he wasn't -- his outs -- was, I hope, a humorous and ridiculous counterpoint to those who looked only at his 200 hits and his speed.
Whether I succeeded or not is in the eye of the beholder.
I for one am prepared to say "Poppycock" to this whole noise until I see further evidence of it being real
Likewise for those Kemp for Cano rumors that some New York rag keeps stirring up
Now, who is following the Dodgers in the Arizona Fall League? I wanted to get down there but work isnt going to let that happen
13) Wearing a DT shirt in public
Yes, this was seen recently.
1. Bashing Russell Martin
2.
Done
In a sad way, it kind of sounds like the type of stuff you hear just before someone has his first shot at some big money.
The last thing I read from Martin indicates that he now believes that he needs more rest and that doesn't mean playing another position on his "off" days.
14. Quietly figuring out OPS+ & VORP for available little league rightfielders while drafting the team of 11 year olds you are coaching
Ha!
I bet those darn park factors are tough to measure!
"We are looking to get better.
It's really that simple. We're not trying to trade certain players, and we're certainly not looking to move players just to move them. As with any off-season or trading deadline, we're assessing the market value for our players to see whether or not that value surpasses their value to the Padres. If you have something you value at one million dollars, it would be foolish to refuse to consider selling it for twenty million dollars. On the flip side, it would also be foolish to sell it for anything less than one million. The thing that makes the market work is that each player has a different value to virtually every Club.
Furthermore, no one player makes a great team. This has been proven time and time again in baseball. We don't need to look any further than the 2008 Padres that went 63-99 with Jake Peavy, but I will."
Here's the link to read his examples and more:
http://itmightbedangerous.blogspot.com/
1. sign Furcal to a 1 year deal, and Dejesus to take over in 2010.
2. will not look to sign Manny-50/50 chance he says
3. will not get into the CC bid wars
4. LA will get involved in the Peavy trade talk.
ummm......don't we need a power hitter, Tony? I am sure there are others out there....but I would rather take my chances on giving Manny $80mm/4 yrs than anyone else out there.
thoughts?
Teixeira seems like a perfect fit for Boston.
After that, what else is there?
Burrell, Dunn? - not Ned type players.
If the payroll drops from 120mils to 90 mils over 1 off-season, there's gonna be a loud rumble regarding the McCourt finances.
At the beginning of your comment, I thought you were talking about Simers.
I wouldn't be too surprised if the Yankees were to sign both.
I think there's a good chance we'll see Orlando Hudson in a Dodger uniform.
They can do remarkable things with PhotoShop now.
Red Sox can stick to playing Youkilis at 3b.
I just dont see the Red Sox risking having to play Kotsay at 1st base.
Manny - NY Mets
CC - NY Yankees
Teixeira - Red Sox
This is going to sound ridiculous, but if Frank really wants to be taken seriously he would literally sign all three players. I'm not even kidding. Of course, we all know that has little chance of happening.
Manny is the key to the off-season, if he is wearing some number in Dodger blue next February, I think the majority of the ticket-buying public who go to the games won't care about the other 8 players on the field.
Now, is that the way I think you should run the Dodgers?
I'd probably go for CC and Lowe. Resign Furcal to 1-year incentive deal with a mutual option or even a vested option (based on certain counting stats) for another year. Try to fill the infield from within. As far as the outfield, I'd see what else is available after Manny and Burrell signs.
It would be going back to 2003 but also back to this team prior to Manny.
-Trade for Peavy
-Sign Furcal
-Sign Manny
It could happen-thoughts?
CC - Angels
Teixeira - Yankees
1. Dodgers get Peavy without giving up any starters (or MacDonald)
2. Dodgers re-sign Manny
3. Dodgers trade Pierre and Jones for spare parts
4. Lakers trade Vlad Rad and Chris Mihm for Chris Paul (this is my Official Red Ryder Carbine-Action Two-Hundred-Shot Range Model Air Rifle wish)
*wish list subject to change on a whim
184 That would make the payroll something like 155 million next year.
You mean, signing Schmidt, Pierre, and Jones (and giving them big contracts) weren't enough for Frank to be taken seriously?
189 If the Dodgers are intent in not raising the majority of their ticket prices for next season (which based on their continuing promotion of getting 2009 season tix at the same price as this year), I can't see them raising payroll that much if at all in 2009.
Reg,
Do you think Hudson's drop in plus/minus can be attributed to his injuries this year? He went from:
2003: +22 (3rd in MLB)
2004: +35 (1st)
2005: +20 (5th)
2006: +13 (5th)
2007: +20 (3rd)
2008: -4 (22nd)
I wouldn't mind having Hudson but he'll surely be expensive.
Donate to a third-world country
And I understand Martin needs to tell them he needs a day off, but it comes down to Torre sitting him on the bench and giving him a break.
Until this happens, Martin will suffer for 2nd half slides every year in his SHORT career until he retires.
Texiera: Angels
K-Rod: Mets
Manny: Dodgers
Look for the Dodgers to sign Manny and do nothing else of note.
But with no other catching ready in the Dodger organization, I cant see the Dodgers dealing Martin until he becomes really overpaid. That wont be for awhile.
Your starting line-up looks like this
Martin
Loney
DeJesus
Hu
DeWitt
Ethier
Jones
Kemp
Rotation
CC
Billingsley
Kuroda
Kershaw
MacDonald
Nothing special but depending on how the young kids improve and how serious Andruw is about playing baseball it can still compete and you're keeping pay-roll about the same. This also gives you one more year to evaluate Martin, Kemp, DeWitt, Loney and you get to see what DeJesus and Hu can do going forward. Your rotation will be set until 2014 and will be realitvely cheap the quality and the years you have your top 3 or 4 guys locked up (depending on MacDonald). Than in 2010-2013 with all those bad contracts coming off the books you can really attack the FA market, and trade market with a better understanding of what you have on the big league level as far as offense and what you have to work with in the minors. If you take those steps we can start to resemble a franchise who is in fantastic shape to remain ultra-competitive for years to come.
There's only problem, Ned doesn't have the job security to make that happen.
I know you were joking, but there's "pretending to really go after it" and "really going after it."
Jones/Pierre/Schmidt is "pretending to go after it." It's saying "hey we signed a big name!" but for a few million dollars more per player, these names could have been much better players.
But the bottom line is, Ned was too impatient to wait for the real prime time players to hit FA, so he just went after the biggest players available at the time.
Remember the Corn Flakes theory!! Many little boxes of corn flakes vs one big box of Corn Flakes...
SS Furcal (S)
2B Hudson (S)
RF Ethier (L)
C Martin (R)
1B Loney (L)
CF Kemp (R)
LF Pierre (L)
3B DeWitt (L)
Adding Furcal, Hudson, and CC would add something like $40-45m to the 2009 payroll (depending on how the contracts are structured of course), still in line with the $120-130 of 2008. I don't think the Dodgers would sign both Furcal and Hudson to long-term deals, simply because it would block DeJesus, so this plan is only really workable if Furcal signs a 1- or 2-year deal.
Nothing like a cleanup hitter who slugs under .400
Yeah, the lineup certainly lacks power, and I'm not married to the order; I was just trying to guess the likely order rather than the optimal one. Also, I try to stick to L-R-L-R... whenever possible.
I could see the top of that order being Furcal-Hudson-Kemp, with Ethier cleanup too.
Either way, the lineup's not too exciting. It's pretty much what we've had for the last few years, just substituting Hudson for Kent. We would expect below average production (and way below average power) at the trio of 1B, LF, and 3B.
The plus would be the defense, of course. Loney is currently a middle of the pack guy at 1B (but could live up to his scout-fed reputation), but replacing Kent with Hudson is potentially a 40-play improvement. Also, DeWitt is excellent defensively at 3B, and Pierre is a defensive asset in LF (his arm damage minimized in the corner spot).
I'm continuously sad to see us overpaying 30-something year old guys who are oft-injured (although I do like the O-Dog's game when healthy)
225 He wanted 5/75 from Arizona.
Burrell is not Ned's kinda player.
Or to put it another way. Manny or Bust.
I wouldn't mind Burrell, but I speculated that if they planned to sign Hudson, Furcal, AND CC, the payroll would be at or around $130m, which would basically force us to keep and play Pierre (and/or Jones of course).
I'd rather spend $15+ on Burrell or even Dunn if we dont get Manny just to have some pop in our lineup and deal with 2B internally via DeJesus/Hu/Abreu
People were worried about Martin because he was seen reading the LA Times and it took him more than 20 minutes to read the whole paper.
Vowell - Orioles
Manny - Giants
Peavy - Braves for a plethora of youth
Sheets -
Hudson - Mets
Abreu - Tampa
Furcal - Dodgers
If the Dodgers sign a LF, only one will get the vaunted Eric Stephen endorsement. :)
Vowell is great, but I think the Orioles will regret this. She can't be more than five-feet-one, five-feet-two tops. Give me Sedaris any day of the week.
There's only 14 AL teams, so unless somebody actually plays LH. Its going to be hard to find three AL teams that can actually afford Burrell, Dunn, or Manny.
Amy or David?
But Sarah's a good free agent pick up if you need someone who can field... questions about the assassination of President McKinley.
1:00pm
You know, with all the rumors about Jason Varitek perhaps becoming a Dodger and whatever, doesn't the fact that he is yet another Scott Boras client kind of hurt those chances, especially if he was to be a backup in LA? Seems a longshot to me. And frankly, they'd be fine with someone like AJ Ellis (or even Danny Ardoin again) as backup.
Hudson's Road sOPS+
2006: 95
2007: 101
2008: 98
Combined with elite defense (assuming he's healthy of course, which is a big if) he's still a catch.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/10/scott-boras-cli.html
No JJJ, but he does represent JJ (Jair Jurrjens).
At an up the middle position, yes.
You had me at Hudson-sucker Proxy.
1) So Vin can say O-Dog a lot
2) So I can read an article about the Dodgers' hitting coach working with the two second basemen on the club, entitled "Tony, Orlando, and Don."
Jason Varitek would not come to LA to be a backup.
Only because Utley never hit the free market.
262 Oh jeez, and I thought mine was bad. ;-)
http://tinyurl.com/69d2pm
Abreu emerging as an everyday player (and somehow proving it to the club before the free agency period begins) would be sooooo awesome.
He could have helped greatly during the "dead zone" period of our offense this season (between Furcal and Manny).
Do you know of any other contract where a player with O-Dog's hitting credentials has been paid that much?
The O-Dog can hit too! His OPS+ the last 3 years is 105, with great defense (in total).
Alfonso Soriano's OPS+ the 3 years before he signed for 8/$136 was 115, with horrible defense.
Furcal signed for 3/$39 three years ago despite a career high OPS+ of 105.
Hudson, in total, is a very good player. His value is not entirely defense, and paying players of his caliber is not unprecedented.
Wasn't the Wizard the highest paid SS? 12 years ago he made 3 Mill. Just asking I don't know the answer.
*Caveat: Soriano's first year in LF was fluky great (+19, 1st in MLB) and the only positive year of that stretch.
You know he's going to decline offensively during his early - mid 30's. So will his defense. His OBP skills seemed to have only shown up while with Arizona. Seems like a lot of money to me when I think Abreu could do that now and if not Abreu, surely DeJesus.
But counting Soriano as a corner OF strengthens the case for Hudson, since Soriano is not a much better hitter than Hudson at comparable points in their career, and Hudson's offense is at a premium defensive position comparatively.
I still have this idea in my head of players getting paid $15 million or more being players who can truly impact and potentially carry a team, which generally means #3 or #4 hitters or ace starting pitchers.
I'm certainly OK with that, especially if it frees up Manny Money™ without touching the earmarked CC Cash®.
Oh, and don't call our future SS Shirley. :)
It will certainly be interesting to see how the declining financial markets affect the MLB free agency period, the first pro sport to test the new waters.
Maybe the effect won't occur until next offseason, after a season of possibly declining ticket sales in a sluggish economy.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/winterleagues/stars/2008/
(Each team in the AFL gets two.)
AIG could still afford to advertise on the walls in the LF and RF corners at Dodger Stadium for the whole year.
BTW, with both NY teams opening new revenue streams, er, stadia, I expect them to be serious FA players, more so than usual. To me, Teixeira to the Yankees makes a lot of sense. They save $17M by buying out Giambi, and Tex can actually play 1B and brings his power bat. Abreu may be/is gone and Matsui's getting no younger. And if the Mets thought they could play Moises Alou in LF, Manny is a no-brainer.
It's officially Bank of America Arena at Hec Edmundson Pavilion.
I remember one year when the Lakers were playing the Sonics in the playoffs and they had to move the game to Hec Edmundson Pavilion. The Lakers asked that the baskets be measured before the game because they didn't think they were 10' high.
This was back when Seattle had an NBA team.
I'll the kids here about those days.
Breaking news! Larry Brown hates all his players.
MadLibs...After Dark!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/wakeup_call/index.html
286
Might briefly review the performance of the national economy and the length of time needed for the "bounce back" factor for the recessions of 1979 and 1991 (79 eight years - 91 four years) in compiling your monetary projections.
The set of circumstances that we are faced with now are unprecedented since the crash of 1929 imho
That's Tommy humming Mack the Knife
I don't know, maybe the Dodgers front office really is fractured, but if it is that also means that trades are less likely to happen. As for trading Martin or Kemp, I doubt Logan White would accept that because he knows there is nobody to quickly back them up.
Okay, I guess he wasn't healthy enough to make the post season roster.
http://www.beloblog.com/Pe_Blogs/prosports/mlb/dodgers/
As a season ticket holder in Bank of America Arena in Hec Edmunson Pavillion I thank the griddle for that fun fact. I had no idea the Sonics ever played there let alone a playoff game. I knew they played in the Kingdome, TacomaDome, and other arenas around town. Todays big announcment in the emerald city was that Seattle U is going to play their games in Key Arena as they attempt to return to Div I. I guess Eligin Baylor is available for reunions.
Or, the Dodgers were really committed to the lie at that point. :)
Oof, did anyone see Kobe's knee bump into that new guy? I heard "hyperextended knee." I hope it isn't serious.
I was thinking about going, but it was hard to justify the high ticket prices for just a preseason game. Hopefully, I will be able to catch one game in LA this season.
Didn't look bad.
His current column doesn't deal with the Dodgers. But it's his plan to save the World Series.
By making it more like the Super Bowl!
I can refer you to a good doctor who can work on your gouged out eyes.
One thing May hasn't blogged about yet is his game yesterday that included him catching all eight innings of yesterday's 28-1 loss, striking out looking in each of his three plate appearances and also committing a throwing error that scored a run. Surprise!
http://www.beloblog.com/Pe_Blogs/prosports/
Willy Aybar may soon have a ring in a box.
Like Juan Pierre.
The World Series needs a ring in a box.
http://tinyurl.com/5poug9
http://tigers-thoughts.blogspot.com/2008/10/final-elias-rankings-american-league_14.html
both Pudge and Varitek are Type A free agents. Who would sign these guys and give up their number one picks. Only a contending team would be interested in adding an old catcher and the contending teams don't have protected picks. You would think this would effect who is interested in them wouldn't you? I mean besides the decrease in productivity.
Varitek as Type A? Does that use career stats or just this year?
It's last two years.
Per BHSportsGuy:
Key Off-Season Dates to Remember
Free agent filing period, first 15 days after World Series ends. Earliest date this begins is Monday Octobre 27, latest is Friday October 31. During this period, players may only negotiate with the last team they played for.
Nov. 3-6, 2008
General Managers Meetings, Dana Point, Calif.
Nov. 11 - Nov. 15 Open Free Agency begins, players can now negotiate with any team. (earliest, last date)
Nov. 20, 2008
Day to file reserve lists for all Minor League levels and Major Leagues
Dec. 1, 2008
Last date for former club to offer salary arbitration to ranked free agents in order to be eligible for compensation. (Note that if a Type A or B free agent signs with another team prior to or on this day, the compensation is automatically awarded.)
Dec. 7, 2008
Last date for player who declared free agency to accept an arbitration offer from former club.
Dec. 8-11, 2008
Winter Meetings, Las Vegas
Dec. 11, 2008
Rule 5 Draft
Dec. 12, 2008
Last date to tender contracts for 2009
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/schedule/important_dates.jsp
And I just revealed my ignorance in regards to free agent status. So, there has to be a certain number of type A's? So, if you have a pool of mediocre players, 20% of those players will be type A?
Headlines you might see:
"Phightin' Phils gamble on Manny in bid to repeat"
"Mets look to double down with Hudson & K-Rod"
"Will Arizona split their aces?"
"Cards are counting on Ludwick . . ."
(Shouldn't someone be chopping wood for the hot stove?)
Thanks
Catchers are ranked in each of these categories:
PA, BA, OBP, HR, RBI, FPCT, Assists
Every catcher on the active roster at the end of the year counts, and given points much like the AP college polls (N for 1st place, N-1 for 2nd, ...). The total points are divided by the total possible points, such that the highest possible score is 100.
There is some injury adjustment too, but I'm not sure how that factors in.
It's actually 20% of all players that are Type A (20-30 are Type B). Not all are free agents.
Ned don't get liqoured up and make trades at the craps table.
"Boston rolls out Dice-K plan..."
Hopefully we don't see "Colletti craps out" :)
In the last five years, he overpaid for every big name in the book that's past his or her prime. Howard Stern, for example, Cousin Bruce Morrow, Martha Stewart, and all those MTV VeeJays.
Reminds me of Ned and the winter meetings.
Thanks. You must have seen my Facebook status before Game 3. :)
I am rooting phor the Rays to win, especially since Chris Coste will be the DH tonight. That's just throwing the Matt Stairs HR right back in our face!
I'm not sure what the line is on the series now, but if it's 7-5 Rays he would be guaranteed $680 with a $500 bet.
If the Rays win, he gets $3000 - $500 = $2500
If the Phils win, he gets $700 - $20 = $680
I think he's gonna ride it out, because that's a cooler story to tell. :)
http://www.japanball.com/news.phtml?id=13329
I'm still not 100% convinced we'll decline his option. I know others here are, but I'll believe it when I see it.
If the odds are 7-5 Rays, a $1,258.33 bet on the Phillies would guarantee a payout to Xei of $1,741.67 either way.
''It was a forkball. I was able to hit it nicely''
http://tinyurl.com/597cyb
I linked only for this E-Jax quote:
"This is a dream come true," he yelled. "It's unbelievable, but I can believe it."
351 I'm only dense on-line. This off-season I vow to undergo intense retinal retraining that will enable me to post better comments than ever before. I hope some site takes a chance on me. I believe I can really turn my posting career around.
What time is the softball game :)
>>Planet Padres ran into Mark Prior (and family) at a local pumpkin patch in Mission Valley, and had a chance to have a very informal, unofficial, quick conversation with him.<<
http://tinyurl.com/65ntom
I need coffee...
And the Cubs are still looking for a left handed bat. Hello, Juan Pierre!
I've driven by that pumpkin patch!
I've actually never purchased a pumpkin in my life. I'm kind of proud of that fact. I do like pictures of kids in a pumpkin patch though; those are cute. Do you think the proprietors of a pumpkin patch would get mad if people just brought their kids to take pictures amongst the pumpkins, without the intention of buying anything?
I buy pumpkins just so I can rip our their guts and carve up their faces.
1) How many WS games has it actually been cold enough for players to wear these?
2) Don't football players have their faces obstructed by, ummm, HELMETS???
I stand corrected...I went to a carving party one year and bought a pumpkin for that. My Homer Simpson carving looked good though.
360 For a good 10-15 years of my life, we'd always get pumpkins at the great produce market on Jefferson (across from the new Playa Vista developments). I'm drawing a blank on the name. I think it's gone now.
I also hate watching baseball played in cold weather. In football you are always moving, even in SoCal I hated playing winter softball late at night. I can't even imagine standing around in Fenway in late October waiting for Joe Blow to throw a pitch.
So it would be better.
Because right now it's not good.
It's bad.
I do agree that baseball needs to do a better job of marketing teams and the games to national audiences but I don't think the hype could ever reach Super Bowl or Final Four levels just for the simple reason that those games are all do-or-die while in the World Series, unless it's an elimination game, there's always tomorrow.
Maybe so, but there aren't many people in the world who get paid multiple millions of dollars a year to throw a baseball 65 MPH.
I think so too.
The original $4m contract was in 2006, and the options have been exercised for both 2007 & 2008 thus far.
www.tableratings.com
The pumpkin patch has to be humble.
I'm with you on that one.
The good thing about Freaks & Geeks is that it's, what, 18 episodes or so? That seems doable in a quick fashion.
When I was catching up on 24 (I didn't start watching until Season 5), I once watched an entire season in one weekend (Sat/Sun).
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Okay, MLB Trade Rumors just put up their Dodgers Offseason Outlook write-up. Hot off the "press":
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/10/offseason-ou-13.html
The salaries next to Pierre, Jones, and Schmidt are very depressing compared to the rest of the team.
397 Thanks for the info. I'll probably try to set up an account and give it a roll, what tables do you typically play?
Then again, I seem to only play online to mess around and play three times as many hands as I should. My stats on any tracking site are really funny, especially if its one that keeps track of triple slash stats.
One day I'll care about winning again, but it'll probably be at a B&M.
B&M's are the only places I can care about winning or even want to really focus and play. But then I played so many times at local B&M's that I got tired of the scene. It is probably because I would play 8-10 hour sessions at a time. I just can't handle the grind around that type of crowd.
B&M = "brick and mortar"?
Just checking.
1. What was the superaccount scandal?
2. What is B&M?
http://www.justingoff.com/?p=90
Ultimate Bet was also implicated in a similar scandal recently, but I didn't read up much about it, to be honest. I only play on FTP and PS now. They're bigger than other sites, have softer games, and because of their size and worldwide reputation, they have a lot of reason to be diligent about superusers kind of scandals to happen. Doesn't mean it can't happen... but if I have to trust someone in online poker, I'd go FTP or PS.
2. Eric is right, it is Brick and Mortar.
Thanks for the link to Table Rankings... interesting site, but it doesn't help me much because they do not track Pokerstars where I mostly play.
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