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Cast Away
2008-12-09 20:15
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

Chad Billingsley had the cast taken off his broken leg a couple days ago and is healing as expected, Ned Colletti said today (via Ken Gurnick at MLB.com).

Comments
2008-12-09 20:26:15
1.   scareduck
Yay!
2008-12-09 20:29:22
2.   Bluebleeder87
from same article:and have even had a few clubs ask about Andruw Jones.
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my hopes were up when I read that...

but were quickly crushed when I read this
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"They [other teams] look for us to pick up a vast majority of his salary," said Colletti, with $21.1 million still due.

2008-12-09 20:34:22
3.   Dave
Seems like a good idea to trade him away and agree to pay a portion of his salary. The Dodgers could pay most of it if he doesn't play much and the portion paid could be reduced based on the playing time he receives and productivity he delivers. A reverse incentive trade contract.
2008-12-09 20:36:45
4.   Samhain
Ned needs to take whatever defraying salary offset he can get against what the Dodgers owe Jones, and cut the metaphorical rotting corpse loose from our metaphorical rigging...
2008-12-09 20:48:02
5.   Daniel Zappala
Or, since we're on the hook for most of the costs anyway, we could keep Jones and hope that he gets in shape and finds his stroke in spring training.
2008-12-09 20:49:42
6.   Daniel Zappala
Given that players always take the most money, I'm expecting CC to end up a Yankee.
2008-12-09 20:52:35
7.   natepurcell
4

I don't think we can trade Jones until we get another outfielder.

2008-12-09 20:53:04
8.   Tripon
Diamond Lueng also has these quotes.

Tony Abreu is progressing well from hip surgery, but has still yet to play regularly even though he was about to start up with Aguilas. Instead, he is at the Dodgers' Dominican complex working to stay in shape.

Not to lump Ramon Troncoso into this group, but I do have an update on him.

He started some games for his team, but apparently that's more because the sinkerballer is working on a new pitch - a curveball.

Guess Troncoso is staying a reliever.

http://blogs.pe.com/prosports/2008/12/dodgers-could-ship-out-andruw.html

2008-12-09 21:04:24
9.   Preston Bannard
In case no one has posted it yet - Peter Gammons in the ESPN Winter Meetings Blog:
"The Dodgers are not doing a Matt Kemp-Robinson Cano deal. 'We're not trading any of our young guys,' Ned Colletti says."

And there was much rejoicing...

2008-12-09 21:07:15
10.   Andrew Shimmin
Is Sacramento good again, or is it very surprising that they're beating the Lakers by 17 points?
2008-12-09 21:08:16
11.   Bob Timmermann
10
Sacramento is, in the words of Bill Walton, horrrrrribbbbbble.
2008-12-09 21:09:42
12.   immouch
trade jones? i like the reverse incentive clause thing, (3) knocking, say, $3 mill off for every 100 PAs. but i'm also thinking the rotting corpse idea (4) has merit, if only for the emotional closure...
2008-12-09 21:11:33
13.   Johnson
10 It is an absolute shock. As a Kings fan who has watched every game this year, I don't know who these guys are or where they have been.
2008-12-09 21:32:37
14.   Tripon
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ti-mannymarket120908&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Tim Brown reports that he can't find any other suitor for manny besides the Dodgers.

2008-12-09 21:38:06
15.   Daniel Zappala
The Lakers' early success on defense was due to a new scheme where they bring an extra man over to the strong side, leaving the weak side open. FB&G had a great article on it. This caused fits for the first few teams they played, but it looks like teams have quickly learned how to exploit it.
2008-12-09 21:56:11
16.   Tripon
Diamond Lueng also has some Torre quotes.

I got excited watching (James) McDonald in the postseason.

and Even though we all know (Russell Martin's) ability, he had some inconsistency. He needs to get better for us to contend.

among others.

http://blogs.pe.com/prosports/mlb/dodgers/

2008-12-09 21:57:07
17.   Tripon
Also, Ned said this to Diamond Lueng.

"I don't believe Derek Lowe's going to pitch for the Dodgers next year."

That's as big a nail in the coffin as we're ever going to see.

2008-12-09 21:57:58
18.   Jon Weisman
16 - There's a whole eight-page Torre transcript available via the link I posted earlier to Inside the Dodgers.
2008-12-09 22:04:11
19.   Tripon
18 Which one? Tony Jackson's site, or the Dodgers one?
2008-12-09 22:13:19
20.   Jon Weisman
Dodgers one.
2008-12-09 22:24:21
21.   Tripon
20 Thanks.

And this article is a doozy. Warning: its hamfisted, and written to be controversial.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/rodriguez-fans-angels-2252061-season-most

2008-12-09 22:26:18
22.   Tripon
Simers has a new column up.

A reporter for MLB.com asked Colletti if the team had checked out Blake's sore arm. He said Blake had seen a doctor. "The same one who looked at Jason Schmidt?" he was asked.

"No, a different one," he said in offering Dodgers fans some hope.

Hah.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-simers10-2008dec10,1,7821650.column

2008-12-09 22:30:35
23.   Louis in SF
Just read the TJ article in the LA Times and he quotes Boras as saying that the Dodgers should look to the Bonds deal he negotiated-a 5 year deal, providing Manny hits certain milestones over the 4 year period. If he doesn't the Dodgers can void the 5th year. While I find Simers often annoying-his quotes from Boras seem believable. Also Ned should be very familiar with the contract since he negotiated it.
I say 5 years with an average of about 23 million is what Boras is looking for, wonder if the Dodgers could shave off the year and do a four year deal with three years guranteed and an option on a 4th with an average of 25million as a counter offer
2008-12-09 23:21:18
24.   Megaballs
23. seems a little high when you're bidding against yourself in a down market.

Gotta like the poker playin Ned. I can't hold back. I want CC and Furcal today. I've been glued to Dodger Thoughts for days...

Let Manny and Boras wait til later...say January.

2008-12-09 23:29:53
25.   Tripon
If Boras wants Bonds' deal for Boras, then we should do it. 5 years/90 million would be a bargin.
2008-12-10 00:54:00
26.   Alex41592
Dodgers extend short term offer to Furcal.

Diamond Leung picks up this story from Las Vegas.

"The Dodgers also hope to re-sign Furcal, whose agent, Paul Kinzer, met with the team for a second straight day and received a short-term offer."

"They told us they'd keep us apprised," Colletti said. "They don't seem to be in a big hurry."

http://www.pe.com/sports/baseball/dodgers/stories/PE_Sports_Local_S_dodgers_10.45ddc38.html

2008-12-10 01:06:55
27.   dzzrtRatt
"short-term?" There's some vague unhelpfulness for you. But that's probably all Diamond was given to work with.
2008-12-10 01:50:17
28.   DBrim
25 - Again, that comes down to who we're bidding against. Ourselves? Why would we want a dead weight for the last 2-3 years when nobody else is biting at Boras' requests?

Given the apparent progress that Cashman is making with CC, if we're going to sign him we need to make a move now. I don't see it happening.

2008-12-10 03:15:16
29.   ibleedbloo
ESPN (the channel, not the website yet) is reporting CC is going to the Yankees.
2008-12-10 03:57:01
30.   Alex41592
29 - In addition.

New York Post reports C.C will be a Yankee. I don't have a T.V in front of me at the moment but I'm reading Buster Olney has confirmed this on ESPN2.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12102008/sports/yankees/yanks_close_in_on_sabathia_deal_143481.htm

2008-12-10 05:57:09
31.   D4P
In today's LA Times, we learn that the Dodgers knew about Schmidt's rotator cuff injury when they signed him, but awarded him the contract anyway based on his success with the Giants.
2008-12-10 06:26:24
32.   D4P
Looking increasingly likely that the Dodgers will be the only team interested in Manny, which yields mixed conclusions.

On one hand, Ned should have a lot of power in the contract negotiations, which should mean a relatively low number of years and money.

On the other hand, if Manny doesn't get what he wants, his time with the Dodgers could become one giant performance-reducing temper tantrum.

2008-12-10 06:37:02
33.   D4P
Probably $160/7 for CC in NY.

That's a handful of beachfront mansions...

2008-12-10 06:43:29
34.   Jon Weisman
NPUT
2008-12-10 06:43:30
35.   Eric Stephen
33
If my trusty conversion chart is correct, that's roughly 267 baseball fields!
2008-12-10 06:43:43
36.   DBrim
I wonder if that 7th year is an option? It seems a bit weird that the Yankees would increase the length when they already offered longer than anybody else.

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