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Look, no one seems to enjoy a salary arbitration hearing. From afar, it appears to be some bastardized form of marriage counseling, where you air out all your grievances with your partner before coming to a reluctant agreement or, barring that, a third-party-imposed winner-take-all settlement.
That doesn't mean divorce is a preferred alternative. But reading Diamond Leung of the Press Enterprise and Tony Jackson of the Daily News, you might get the feeling that the Dodgers do.
The Dodgers own the Major League Baseball rights to Takashi Saito. If he wants to play ball in the majors next season, he does so at their pleasure. Otherwise, it's home to Japan - which might be fine for the 38 5/6-year-old reliever who was only able to throw 5 2/3 innings after the 2008 All-Star Break.
According to Leung and Jackson, the Dodgers and Saito are so far apart in their negotiations for 2009 that general manager Ned Colletti is labeling the talks "a staredown." The Dodgers are offering an incentive-laden one-year contract, Saito wants more security. The beat writers are indicating (assuming they haven't been led down the wrong path) that if the parties don't come to an agreement by Friday, the Dodgers will release the rights to Saito rather than face an arbitration hearing.
Why? Unless they are convinced Saito won't be healthy at all for 2009, why should they not continue negotiating with him, even if it takes them all the way to an arbitration hearing? Is this an overreaction to the Jason Schmidt fiasco?
In the first half of 2008, opponents only had a .282 on-base percentage and .299 slugging percentage against Saito. He struck out more than 30 percent of the batters he faced. I'm the first guy to point out that reliever expiration dates come up fast, but I'm struggling to believe that Saito won't be worth to the Dodgers something close to what an arbitrator decides he's worth, even if he spends more time on the disabled list.
The Dodgers are always advocating the need for pitching depth, yet since October they've cast aside Brad Penny, Joe Beimel, Chan Ho Park. I'm not arguing that they should have kept all of these guys, but unless Saito is just fried, surely the team that took a $47 million chance on Schmidt can take a sub-$4 million chance on him.
Update: Dylan Hernandez of the Times echoes his colleagues: "The Dodgers might part ways with the All-Star closer if they can't agree on terms of a new contract to ensure they can avoid facing him in arbitration." The Dodgers should not worry about ensuring they don't face Saito in arbitration.
Update 2: Andruw Jones hits ... the Dominican tarmac (via Kevin Baxter at the Times).
Update 3: Ken Gurnick of MLB.com adds medical details on Saito:
The issue is his right elbow. He suffered a partial tear of a ligament that usually requires Tommy John ligament replacement surgery and a year off. But at age 38, Saito instead chose an experimental stem-cell injection and two months of rehabilitation. He returned to pitch six times in September and had a shaky playoff outing in Chicago but wasn't healthy enough to be included on the Dodgers' National League Championship Series roster.
So he ended the season physically unable to perform, and for negotiation purposes, that's how the club remembers him. He's back home in Japan now and the Dodgers have medical reports as far as they go, but there's no way to really know his health until he pitches regularly in games. ...
I'll admit, this gives me second thoughts.
Giants GM Seabean goes on a rant about the C.C. sweepstakes.
Isn't it great when a Tiny URL suffix you choose hasn't already been taken? :)
It never was easy to see teams spend hundreds of millions of dollars on players, but it's even tougher to watch this now.
If Saito comes back and pitches well in 2010 then the team gets a quality reliever for $3.5M for one year or $6M for 2 years.
This would give Saito some of the security he is seeking while allowing the team to get one or possibly two productive years out of a Dodger hero.
Mariners Get
Aaron Heilman (from NY)
Endy Chavez (from NY)
Mike Carp (from NY)
Franklin Gutierrez (from Cle)
Mets Get
J.J. Putz (from Sea)
Sean Green (from Sea; sorry LAT!)
Jeremy Reed (from Sea)
Indians Get
Luis Valbuena (from Sea)
Joe Smith (from NY)
http://tinyurl.com/6gm24t
That offer is probably considerably lower than the Dodgers' offer, already deemed too low by Saito.
I don't know anything about them, but Valbuena was deemed by BA to have the best strike zone discipline in the Mariners' farm system.
And is outstanding by the way.
For the seventh episode in a row (or thereabouts), Radhika discusses on camera how she does not want people to think she can only cook Indian food. And then proceeds to cook Indian food.
Makes sense the Indians would pick up a couple of nice pieces.
lol I kept pointing that out to people; but it makes sense. Nothing is going to have more flavor.
J.J. Putz can't be too happy. He was arguably the best closer in baseball entering this year, and now he's the backup to the single-season record holder. In eight months his prospects for future earnings basically disappeared.
Translation: The Dodgers want Saito only if they can be guaranteed that they won't have to pay him a fair salary.
If anyone plans to tivo Top Chef (it's possible!)
I plan to record it, then watch it a bit later! Although via Time Warner DVR, not TiVo, so your point still stands. :)
George Gervin is the only other player in NBA history to score 33 in one quarter.
Jeremy Reed is pretty useless too. Maybe the Mets still need an outfielder?
As for Saito, I hope the Dodgers find a way to bring him back, and we all love him, but I can understand the hesitation, given his age and recent injuries. Hope they work something out. Let's not end it this way, Sammy!
(via MLBTR)
Aw man! I knew CHP wasn't coming back to LA, and that's probably the right move, but would've preferred he not go over... there.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/psplit.cgi?n1=parkch01&year=00#locat-site
Vargas tasted some big league action a few years back with the Marlins. He also went to high school with my nephew, who proclaimed Vargas an unlikeable tool.
My data point reflecting baseball economics. Reupped my Mariner season seats today and was able to pick seats one section closer in the field box section to just off the visitor dugout. Of course this is for a team coming off a historically bad year but was the biggest upgrade in five years. One of the perks of living in Seattle and not LA is being able to afford tickets like this.
Two wrongs make a right?
Plus, in MLB the arbitration is an either/or scenario, in that the arbitrator must choose one side. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the legal world can't many arbitration cases be solved via some sort of resolution in the middle?
Ned may be stupid but at least he's not an idiot. He appears to have learned from the Schmidt mistake.
With the medical update above, I'm leaning more towards the Jack Woltz response to Saito.
As soon as I saw the update I was ready to put a South Park reference, but you beat me to it.
Breaking my balls, Stephen.
"It's not a tumor!!"
Here's a tidbit from the Putz trade article:
Gutierrez had been in the Indians' system since he was acquired in the 2004 trade that sent Milton Bradley to the Dodgers. The 25-year-old has put up a .258 average with 22 homers and 85 RBIs over the last four seasons and has proven to be a valuable defender.
How many A-Level prospects do the Indians have of ours? We can't even blame it on Ned this time. Gutierrez for Bradley pre-dates NedCo.
Are you referring to this book?
http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/33901803
I do not think Arnold Schwarzenegger (from Kindergarten Cop) could write that book.
They made it to the Finals with a worse team.
More and more I am also buying into this theory. Does anyone know how long Fox gets to keep the cable revenue from the Dodgers. I believe as part of the contract and the various debts that the Dodgers still have to Fox that they keep a large percentage of the cable revenue. So while the Dodgers are a large market team and profitable, much of the growing cable revenue stream goes back to Fox. If advertising rates fall than that cable revenue also falls and doesn't the debt grow. Hence why McCourt is also trying to find other revenue streams that are not incumbered by the Fox deal.
It would be great one day to see some of the loans that McCourt has and the revenue generated.
http://articles.latimes.com/2004/jan/30/sports/sp-dodtv30
amongst other places that Fox would retain the Dodgers local broadcast rights through 2012, so the McCourts don't get to enjoy that revenue stream until the 2013 season.
Are arbitrators too stupid to figure injury risk in to the price they set? Why does everybody in the world think Kim Ng is better at arbitration hearings than Colletti seems to?
Isn't this post an example of Jon calling out the Dodgers?
But you are right, that OF of Chavez/Balentien, Gutierrez, and Ichiro should be a lot of fun to watch track down flyballs in the OF. Now if they could only do something about Betancourt in the IF...
Did he elect not to have the "Tommy John" procedure because that means it would take about 18 months to be back into something resembling peak form?
Wonder what peak form might be for Saito at 40+ years old?
Broxton's time is now!
Perhaps Gary Cohen will have to yell "Jeremy Magic!" anytime Reed makes a nice catch.
The "Endy Magic!" was really played out.
If Billy Wagner comes back in 2010, it'll be really interesting then...
Their OF offense is probably the worst in the majors now.
Without CC and Sheets it is not like the Brewers are going to be competing in 2009 for anything.
Only 14 seasons of a CF over 37 or older who compiled on OPS+ > 100 since 1947 and Willie Mays tops the list.
http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/VBsM
If you have Walton/Fisher/Gasol on the floor at the same time, the defense is not going to be good.
I'd really like to see:
Kobe
Ariza
Odom
Gasol
Bynum
As the primary 5-man unit till the trade deadline. At the deadline, deal Odom for a PG & slide Ariza to the 3-spot.
If Billy Wagner comes back in 2010, it'll be really interesting then...
Wagner's contract is up after 2009, and I doubt he will be back with the Mets.
Any reason why Vlad didn't play at all last night?
Gutierrez in CF is a decent bat. I really like this deal for the Mariners. He took a while but he's just going to get better and better. Balentien offers plenty of possible power. Per USS Mariner
Ichiro, RF, +5 offense, +5 defense, +20 replacement level: +3 wins
Gutierrez, CF, -5 offense, +10 defense, +20 replacement level: +2.5 wins
Balentien, LF, -10 offense, -10 defense, +20 replacement level: +0.0 wins
Might be the best trade the Mariners have made in years. I love it anytime someone trades an overvalued closer for plenty of parts.
80 I predict you'll see that starting line-up before too long. Again it's really early in the season and Phil is experimenting a bit, especially with the 19-3 record. They keep playing porous defense and he'll mix it up.
Really looks like the D-bax are taking a step back this year. They are letting Hudson/RJ/Dunn all go, & replacing them with no one.
At this point the Dbacks are saying the same thing. Letting Manny/Lowe/Rafy/Penny go and replacing them with no one.
I really hope the Dodgers don't flay anyone.
It's illegal in all 50 states.
Even Nevada.
I slept about 18 hours over a 24 hour period yesterday, feeling ill. I blame the Yankee and Red Sox dominating the headlines for this.
Wouldn't it be goal difference and then goals scored?
The standings I see list San Lorenzo in first and they have they have the most goals.
I could see him winning a arb case, guaranteeing his salary at several million, but I can also see no team offering him a contract that doesn't include significant incentive escalators for IP or appearances because of his elbow plus his age.
His arb argument would likely be about his numbers as a closer, but his open market perception may be potential set-up guy with health questions.
The suspense is killing me. it all goes down live at El Gaucho in Redondo Beach if anyone interested at 1120 Sunday.
This paragraph leads me to believe that they will have a playoff:
Ahora todo depende de las combinaciones de resultados que se den en la ultima fecha para que Boca pueda lograr el título, con la posibilidad de tener que jugar un desempate para dirimir quien sera el Campeon del Apertura 2008.
93 - Where are there photos of Jones?
Thanks for the info. But no cable money until 20013, for a guy who is leveraged does make me wonder about some of his decisions.....If all of the concerns about future Dodger contracts with players who have injury history, I wonder why you would consider looking at Johnson for even one year. 12 million for Andy Pettite?
Update 2 above in Jon's post.
I will say that the photo is a bit encouraging. He looks pretty trim and lean which is what I was hoping he would get back to. Last season he always looked so soft especially around the midsection and thick underneath his chin.
I wonder if Pentland will be checking out any of his games in the Dominican to start working on his swing?
If Manny gets signed.
If Andruw could hit .250 with 30 homers.
Of such are Hot Stove daydreams made.
Looks like a three-way playoff to me.
https://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gNxFjepQ0VKTpKFiP5R96797TNjg
With age, comes wisdom.
"Lanzador" is pitcher. "Receptor" is catcher.
"Torpedero" is shortstop.
You'd probably figure out the other three positions.
Eduardo Morlan could become a solid reliever for anyone next year.
At this point, I'd be pleased with .222 and 26 homers.
If you're too cheap to pay $15 to watch 30 GMs yell out the names of fringe prospects, then I can't help you.
Btw, the River Ave Blues guy is "camped out" in the Rule 5 draft war room, which probably sounds more exciting than it is. And it doesn't sound very exciting.
http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/2008-rule-5-draft-6280/
http://www.sporcle.com/games/ncaabowlgames.php
I know spots will open up tomorrow.
Astros took Andrew Glock, OF from the Dodgers. (Uh, who??)
Dodgers take Anthony Hatch, C from the Jays.
Pirates got Donald Veal, who used to be a highly ranked prospect.
12:01pm: Kevin Towers told reporters the proposed Peavy deal with the Cubs is dead. The Cubs pulled out. Mike DiGiovanna heard earlier that the Angels remain interested.
It should be in Las Vegas.
But I think it takes place in the hearts and minds of all good-hearted souls.
6'3 195#.
He was awful in AA in 2008, but high A he did pretty well.
A real long shot to make the team.
You can pay MLB.com $15 and watch the wrapup! It should be scintillating.
Or you could take that $15 and do something useful with it. Like burn it to help decrease the money supply.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=1829
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/
Kevin Goldstein described the Rule 5 draft this way to me, a room for 300 plus people, only 7 media people show up, table and chairs set up for each team, and then the moderator calls the team's name, they answer within a few seconds and then they move on.
My eye doctor told me to stop working at the computer every 30 minutes and to stare out a window for 5 minutes to change the depth of view.
From BA
There are Triple-A and Double-A segments of the Rule 5 draft, with price tags of $12,000 and $4,000 respectively. Minor league players not protected on the reserve lists at the Double-A and Class A levels are subject to selection, but almost no future big leaguers emerge from this process. It's basically a tool for major league teams to fill out affiliates rather than obtain talent.
Now I do it about every day, once or twice (that or take a five minute walk and look into the distance as much as I can). Really does help.
Joel (B'ham, WA): Klaw, doesn't Batista have to be the closer for the M's now? He has experience and is a disaster as a starter. That way they could keep Morrow as a starter.
Keith Law: (1:44 PM ET ) Sure. They're going to lose 100 games either way; a closer is the last thing they need.
The one where if a player is drafted, they have to stick on the team's MLB roster the whole season or they must be offered back to their original team? Have they adjusted those rules now?
Allen (PA): Your an idiot.
Keith Law: (2:02 PM ET ) But at least I know how to use an apostrophe, you twit.
Victor Garate was picked up in the minor league Rule 5 draft. I'd bet he makes it to the major leagues. It was quite a nice pickup by us last year.
Don't they have someone to filter that stuff?
If only underdog had sent in a question about taking flyers on the Rule 5!
I'm also trying to get an optimal monitor set-up. I've turned down the brightness and I have a backlight thing sort of going so there isn't a harsh contrast between the monitor and the cube wall.
I still have problems though. I feel like my eyes get dry easily and spamming eye drops into them only does so much. I'm not sure what else I could do though.
He was terrible in the A league in 2007. I understand why he was not protected, I'm just shocked it might turn out well. Houston owed us since we gave them a LOOGY for 50,000 in the major league part of the draft.
vr, Xei
It seems like either an eye dry-ness thing (maybe the office is dry), or a brightness thing, or just a lack of distance variation for my eyes to focus on.
What would you call good eye drops? I have "Visine Tears" right now.
Garate could end up being better then Wright. Except for the name, no one can beat Dequam Lawesley Wright
And then if all else fails, advil and a lot of coffee, that'll do it. Or getting a job with the US Forest Service.
My best remedy before being outfitted with a good pair of reading glasses (I only need glasses for computer and reading work), was artificial tear drops and a gel that you could actually put on your eye-lid that would work it's way into the corner of your eyes for lubrication. Both worked but were temporary fixes. You may want to try different kinds of artificial tear drops, I found the most effective ones, were the ones with the most texture or stickiness to them. I'd also have your vision checked and of course check the lighting and monitor positioning at your workplace.
vr, Xei
My brain is totally flayed today. Er, frayed. Er, fried. Actually, any of the above.
Btw, Jon has a NPUT.
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