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Kemp Arm No. 1
2009-01-22 07:28
by Jon Weisman
Note: The Dodger Thoughts blog has moved to the Los Angeles Times.

Matt Kemp had the best throwing arm of any center fielder in baseball last season, according to a study by John Walsh for The Hardball Times. Manny Ramirez and Andre Ethier also ranked above average in the same category. The study takes into account both outfield assists and the number of times an outfielder prevents a baserunner from attempting to take an extra base, as well as the situations involved.

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Tom Meusborn of Chatsworth and Scott Muckey of Crespi were honored Wednesday with the Tommy Lasorda Lifetime Achievement Award as the most outstanding high school baseball coaches in Southern California.

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2009-01-22 07:34:06
1.   D4P
For Juan Pierre there was good news and bad news in 2008. The good: he was nowhere to be found at the bottom of the list of center field arms, a place he had inhabited for several years running. The bad: Juan has now established residency at the bottom of the left fielders' list. I'm not counting Luis Gonzalez, who, as far as I can tell, has been playing with a paralyzed throwing arm for the last several years.
2009-01-22 07:41:31
2.   fiddlestick
I hope Matt doesn't read that and go get that tattoo that Mondesi had.
2009-01-22 07:49:46
3.   JoeyP
Hopefully this will quel the notion that Kemp isnt a good CF'er.

He's definitely fast & has a great arm. Not sure why anyone previously thought Kemp couldnt play CF..He played there all his minor league career...Too bad the Dodgers didnt believe it when Pierre was signed for 5 years.

2009-01-22 07:51:48
4.   D4P
3
"What didn't the Dodgers know that the rest of us did?"
2009-01-22 07:55:16
5.   Jim Hitchcock
I may be going off the reservation here, but if we could sign Nomar for cheap enough, I think he would make a great PHS/PVL. Seriously, would Mark Loretta coming off the bench set anybody's heart a flutter?

And I wonder how cheap we could have picked up
Grudzielanek for? I always liked the guy with the weird eyes.

2009-01-22 08:08:06
6.   dianagramr
5

How do you feel about "the girl with the faraway eyes"?

2009-01-22 08:14:51
7.   Jon Weisman
5 - I like Loretta more than Nomar at this point, and certainly don't feel the need for both.
2009-01-22 08:19:05
8.   Bob Hendley
Bison has a cannon! La, la, la, la la, la.
2009-01-22 08:25:37
9.   Kevin Lewis
If we didn't have Loretta and Nomar would be cheap, than yes, but it seems redundant at this point.

Okay, Sheets and Manny by the end of the day.

2009-01-22 08:28:25
10.   Jim Hitchcock
I was driving home early Sunday morning through Bakersfield

Man. I've been trying to remember the name of that song for years! Thanks, dianagramr!

7 Sentimental value, don't ya know! :)

2009-01-22 08:30:05
11.   ToyCannon
3
I'm not sure how having a good arm and being fast is the end all of being a center fielder. Subjectively his routes need lots of work and he doesn't get good jumps off the ball. He can make up for that with his speed but his speed will go fast so we only have a small window that he can play centerfield.

5
Mark Loretta mashes lefties so if he's pinch hitting against a LHP I will expect something.
http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/j5Qm

2009-01-22 08:31:11
12.   old dodger fan
10 Watch for traffic lights.
2009-01-22 08:35:07
13.   Jacob Burch
I could have sworn hearing that the Best Original Song would be limited to one song per movie after last year. Am I imagining things?

When was the last year Director's and Best Film lined up perfectly 1:1?

2009-01-22 08:37:08
14.   cargill06
I'm not very good at determining value, so I pose the question to you. Would Carlos Santana for Peavy get a deal done?
2009-01-22 08:37:50
15.   Jacob Burch
Oscar note the third: I sort of like they have the animated category, but it needs to stop being a landing ground for movies like "Bolt." I know they shun from mixing big-ticket awards, but it's sort of silly Walts with Bashir isn't on the list.
2009-01-22 08:38:03
16.   Jacob Burch
14 No
2009-01-22 08:49:29
17.   ToyCannon
14
Not be itself but he certainly would be the big chip. 1/2 a season of CC was traded for a a player now considered inferior to Santana. Peavy is not a free agent but he is also not inexpensive. The price should be three prospects. A Santana/McDonald/DeJesus package should have gotten it done.

Jacob doesn't want to hear this anymore but trading your number one prospect for a league average 3rd baseman is the worse deal that Ned has ever done. Luckily his best deal swept it under the rug for most Dodger fans.

2009-01-22 08:51:06
18.   Jim Hitchcock
11 Holy cow! That's what I get for not doing research.
2009-01-22 08:51:39
19.   underdog
15 - Agreed, though to be fair Persepolis was one of last year's nominees there.

The foreign nominees are all really good this time, though (including Bashir).

2009-01-22 08:53:10
20.   Jacob Burch
17 I don't mind it that much as outlier comments, it's when old criticisms dominate a large chunk of comments when we could be having Trough Thoughts again instead!

By 'Deal' do you mean simply trades, or all forms of transactions.

2009-01-22 08:56:21
21.   cargill06
By 'Deal' do you mean simply trades, or all forms of transactions?

I don't know what you mean.

2009-01-22 08:56:43
22.   ToyCannon
18
Ankiel gave him fits. 0 for 14, I'm sure he was glad to see him implode and leave the mound.

For the rest of us, it was to bad, he could have been one of the best LHP ever. I still think he had the best stuff I'd ever seen from a young LHP and I saw Tanana in his prime before the Angels shredded his golden arm.

2009-01-22 08:57:03
23.   ToyCannon
21
Trades
2009-01-22 08:57:26
24.   underdog
Best actor and supporting actor noms are all really strong this year, too, imho. I loved Robert Downey Jr in Tropic Thunder so I'm tickled to see him get a nom but of course Heath should get that one, posthumously.
2009-01-22 08:57:27
25.   Jacob Burch
19 No love for your Vamp Flick though.

I'm finding that I'm going to struggle on my party ballot (we do it every year and it gets fiercely competitive) in the supporting actress category. Art/Technical ones may be hard as well, as Oscars seem to get dual-personality between historical pieces and blockbusters in them, and this year packs a punch with strong candidates for both.

2009-01-22 09:02:53
26.   ToyCannon
Nomar has some fun splits against LHP
2004/.639
2005/.694
2006/1.020
2007/.611
2008/1.067

So three years of sub 700 ops but two years of plus 1.000 ops. Yet, I always thought he killed LHP.

2009-01-22 09:06:40
27.   underdog
25 Nope :-( But I didn't expect it there. Probably too much blood for the crotchety older Oscar voter (everyone votes for foreign language nominations). Yeah, it's definitely going to be a tough year to make predictions in some of these categories. {shrug}
2009-01-22 09:08:23
28.   ToyCannon
24
The movie was entertaining and Downey was fun to watch but any award coming out of that movie would be an insult to the good movies that were made in 2008. If you are going to consider his role you might as well throw in Tom Cruise's role.

I liked Heath Ledger as the Joker. I don't see in any way how it was an academy award performance. If he wasn't dead would he even be nominated? I think the answer is no.

2009-01-22 09:12:00
29.   kinbote
I think it's a joke that The Dark Knight didn't get a Best Picture nomination. (Disclaimer: I haven't seen any of the five that did!)
2009-01-22 09:12:18
30.   Jacob Burch
28 I think the answer is yes. I have no care for the actor personally or honoring him in anyways, but I'll be darned if that wasn't the best supporting acting performance--and one of the best adaptive performances--I've seen in a long time. He took in a nearly century-long, very well established, in multiple mediums character and undeniably made him the alpha representation of the character, and did so by taking the best of what came before him in small doses and injecting all else. Credit some to the Nolans for the screenplay, but I still believe he deserves every iota of praise he's gotten.
2009-01-22 09:13:59
31.   Jacob Burch
30 That should read half-century, not century.
2009-01-22 09:16:41
32.   mwhite06
30 Perhaps I just saw the movie way after everybody else so the hype had been going strong for a while, but I agree with ToyCannon. I thought Ledger did fine, but I thought his acting consited of shaking alot and whispering in a raspy voice.

BTW, I fully acknowledge I am no authority on judging acting performances, its simply how I viewed the film as a consumer.

2009-01-22 09:22:01
33.   D4P
If he wasn't dead would he even be nominated? I think the answer is no.

You act as if these awards are arbitrary and meaningless.

I commend you.

2009-01-22 09:23:30
34.   Jacob Burch
32 It's not something I'm going to argue to death because so much of what goes into it is subjective to what one thinks/knows of the Batman comics/graphic novels and what one likes in a role. I'd like to think I can appreciate all walks of roles, but I'm not going to go too heavy in dissecting what makes me like what I do.

All I know is that I had no instinct to give eulogistic praise at all, and was blown away with out much I thought he aced it.

2009-01-22 09:24:13
35.   Jim Hitchcock
Wow, Richard Jenkins get a best actor nomination? That is so cool.
2009-01-22 09:24:21
36.   Jacob Burch
33 Caring about the awards is not on par with investing meaning or judgmental authority into them, and I hate the suggestion that comes about every year otherwise.
2009-01-22 09:26:57
37.   Jon Weisman
35 - Jenkins and Melissa Leo are the best news of the day. The Reader getting a best picture nomination is the worst news.
2009-01-22 09:27:02
38.   twerp
The times, they are unrecognizable dept.==

Wandering around si.com last night, noticed this from 1/21/60:

"After receiving a record salary of $100,000, Stan Musial insists he take a 20,000 pay cut due to his decrease in performance the previous season."

http://tinyurl.com/c937eb

Some PVLs today would be absolutely mortified to learn such a thing was even mentioned, by a HOFer no less.

Also on the linked sidebar is an account of Musial's retirement in '63. Excerpt:

"He has been one of the happy elements of the game, a friendly, charming boy who grew into a friendly, charming man, set apart principally by the fact that he might at any time hit .376."

Musial quote, which will make this comment stretch to near eternity. Whatever---

"The main reason I decided to retire was that I never wanted to be a liability to a ball club. I was listening to Willie Mays the other night recording for a documentary about his life and he said, 'When I get too old to play, I'll know it by my arm.' I couldn't understand that. I never worried about my arm.

"What you lose is your speed and most of all your concentration. Concentration is what has enabled me to change my mind at the last instant and not take a pitch I thought was going to be a ball but to swing at it instead when I realized it was going to be a strike. That ability has been leaving me in the last couple of years. Somebody told me that by retiring this season I was just barely going to miss breaking Ty Cobb's record for most games played—3,033, I believe it is. But tell me this: What's wrong with being second to Ty Cobb?"

Have to confess to not having read it all, yet.

2009-01-22 09:27:57
39.   Branch Rickey
Manny Ramirez has an above average throwing arm?
Is that in the underhand only category?
2009-01-22 09:28:09
40.   D4P
Eric Gagne remain(s) in the Twins' sights, with the Twins "swapping offers" with Scott Boras for Gagne

Hard to imagine a GM thinking this is likely to work out well in his/her team's favor.

2009-01-22 09:30:32
41.   regfairfield
Contracts given to Scott Boras clients that have actually hurt a team long term in recent history:

-Barry Zito

Yep, would hate to have to match wits with that guy.

2009-01-22 09:31:19
42.   Jacob Burch
39 I don't think anyone has ever doubted Manny's arm. It's tracking flies that seems to be an adventure.

37 Was The Reader that bad? I'm getting conflicting reports here on whether I should bother seeing it.

2009-01-22 09:34:14
43.   D4P
Gagne was worth negative $5.4 million dollars last year. I'm guessing the Twins and Boras are "swapping offers" for substantially more than that, which doesn't bode well for the Twins.
2009-01-22 09:37:45
44.   Jon Weisman
39 - I felt Manny has a good arm when he needs to. Those underhand throws usually come when he's got no chance. Just my own personal observation.
2009-01-22 09:38:31
45.   regfairfield
So Gagne gets something like 1/4? That hurts the Twins how?
2009-01-22 09:38:37
46.   Jon Weisman
42 - I wouldn't say it was bad, but it was strange, with a decidedly odd point of view that never made sense. The film wouldn't make my top 20.
2009-01-22 09:39:59
47.   D4P
45
Why pay a player a lot more than he's worth, especially if he actually has negative value (and thus hurts the team more than he helps)?

I can't believe I'm even having to type this.

2009-01-22 09:41:06
48.   Lexinthedena
I thought Heath Ledger was truly incredible, although I thought the movie itself was a mess.
2009-01-22 09:42:04
49.   Jacob Burch
46 I'm sort of scared of you coming into the Heath discussion because I may be forced to stand down. From early reports, it sounds like I may like The Reader, but not as much as I liked Dark Knight. When it's said and done, I imagine Dark Knight will remain in my top 5 films of the year, but I still have a handful to go through.
2009-01-22 09:42:17
50.   D4P
Which reminds me.

Do we have any evidence that "regfairfield" is still alive? From what I can tell, he disappeared from True Blue, never told anyone why, and has repeatedly avoided addressing the subject even when asked to do so.

Top that with (what have been, in my opinion) somewhat uncharacteristic comments and posts from his screen name lately and I'm left to wonder if someone else is logging in and commenting under his screen name, while he's swimming with the fishes or something.

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2009-01-22 09:43:43
51.   regfairfield
Because:

That stat is terrible and doesn't seem to have any basis in reality.

Four million can't buy you anything of value anyway, so why not spend it on the slight chance Gagne isn't finished. It's not like you get a reward for not spending the money.

2009-01-22 09:47:01
52.   Jon Weisman
49 - I still have not seen The Dark Knight. I started the DVD on an airplane (which is the worst environment you could have) but had to turn it off after 10 minutes. I was planning on starting over at home sometime, though nothing in those 10 minutes has made me want to.
2009-01-22 09:47:04
53.   Tripon
The reward can be a team trading for a veteran and being able to eat his contract in the middle of the year.
2009-01-22 09:48:59
54.   D4P
51
Gagne has declined in virtually all meaningful ways for multiple years in a row now (which isn't really a big surprise, given his PED history).

But then, you didn't have a problem giving Andruw Jones $18 million/year in case he "might" turn things around, so I guess we're just different that way.

I never pegged you for such a WhoseToSayberMetrist.

2009-01-22 09:50:11
55.   D4P
52
I haven't seen it either, and I've long been bewildered at how popular "superhero" movies continue to be.

Someone needs to tell Jerry that they're played.

2009-01-22 09:52:59
56.   Jacob Burch
52 55 I understand why they're so popular, being a big of a graphic novel/comic book nerd myself, but can also understand that if one is not prone to finding anything of the genre interesting that they'd go away from DK somewhat empty.
2009-01-22 09:53:01
57.   dianagramr
Not one nomination of any sort for "Iron Man"?

In some ways, it was a BETTER movie than "Dark Knight".

I thought Downey did a great job with a difficult role.

(any role in which you are in full body garb a great deal of the time makes it difficult to distinguish the "acting")

2009-01-22 09:54:37
58.   DBrim
57 - I thought it was a beautiful movie film-wise (I saw it in a theatre with a 4K digital projector), but I felt that it lacked substance. I loved TDK, though.
2009-01-22 09:56:05
59.   D4P
but can also understand that if one is not prone to finding anything of the genre interesting

That's not the issue, so much as that superhero movies kept getting remade over and over and people keep paying out hundreds of millions of dollars to see them.

I'd like for "Hollywood" to actually come up with some new ideas for a change, instead of just rehashing the old ones. But maybe that's asking too much.

2009-01-22 10:00:10
60.   Jacob Burch
59 To some degree I agree, but if you think The Dark Knight amounted to just a 'rehash,' then a I strongly disagree. If you have a story worth telling in your own way, then I have no problem with it being made--even if it's a character/storyline/archetype that's previously been explored.
2009-01-22 10:01:05
61.   Ken Noe
We interrupt for this special report.
Hokie Hokie Hokie Hi.
We now return to your regular discussions.
2009-01-22 10:02:51
62.   underdog
I agree with Jon in 37 . Jenkins and Leo were the best news (though I'd kind of expected it, but you never know with the Oscars). The love for The Reader is inexplicable, imho. Well, it's explicable, but frustrating. To me The Wrestler is so much better than either The Reader or Benjamin Button that it's a bit sad to see it snubbed, though not surprising at all.

Oh, and Jon, no nomination for Bruce Springsteen?? Only 3 songs?

2009-01-22 10:05:48
63.   Eric Stephen
Regardless of how Mark McGwire looks in all this mess, his brother Jay comes off as the scumbag.

Writing a book about your family without their consent or even knowledge just to make a few bucks is pretty damned low.

2009-01-22 10:07:10
64.   Disabled List
I'm thrilled that Jenkins and Leo got nominated, even though I haven't seen their movies. They were overlooked-but-indispensible characters on two of my favorite TV shows ever, and it's terrific to see them get recognized.

I also think Dark Knight was seriously overrated, as was Heath Ledger's performance. I'm convinced that he owes his nomination to the James Dean phenomenon.

2009-01-22 10:07:16
65.   Eric Stephen
I went into the Dark Knight ready to be skeptical about Heath Ledger's performance, given how much hype it received leading into the film's release. However, I was blown away. Ledger's Joker dominated the screen.
2009-01-22 10:11:13
66.   D4P
I went into the Dark Knight

I hope you didn't go gently.

2009-01-22 10:11:34
67.   fanerman
I think comic books have a (modern) mythological element to them, and that is one reason they're popular. I love Batman and thoroughly enjoyed The Dark Knight.
2009-01-22 10:12:04
68.   Disabled List
65 I honestly thought Aaron Eckhart was better.
2009-01-22 10:13:01
69.   Eric Stephen
Jeff Kent's press conference is at 11:30 today.

It will be on ESPNews. MLB Network will be showing Game 3 of the 2007 WS, so I'm not sure if it will be on there. Perhaps Dodgers.com will carry it live as well.

2009-01-22 10:13:09
70.   silverwidow
I have the two-disc special edition at home, unwrapped, on my desk. Got it for Christmas, but it's still sitting there...
2009-01-22 10:17:34
71.   cargill06
It's 2009, about darn time.

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/01/22/flying-car.html

2009-01-22 10:18:09
72.   Kevin Lewis
48

I have to agree with Lex on this one. I loved Heath in the film, but overall I wasn't blown away by the movie. But that could be the fault of the drunk guy in our theater that kept getting up and stumbling all over the place.

2009-01-22 10:18:26
73.   underdog
Of course, I'm the one who had Hellboy II ahead of TDK on his Best Of list. No love for Hellboy II, Oscar?

Okay, one nom for makeup, as a consolation prize. Sigh.

2009-01-22 10:20:45
74.   Eric Stephen
I kind of like that Robert Downey Jr. got nominated for Tropic Thunder, if only to get some nominations for a comedy.
2009-01-22 10:22:13
75.   ToyCannon
68
I agree. I enjoy over the top super hero villains but they are easy to do. Ledger didn't do anything that Jack Nicholson hadn't already done except do it darker.

Ledger was a great actor, I'm sorry he's gone as I'd enjoyed just about every movie he's made but still, he played the "Joker".

Iron Man for me was much more enjoyable but that has always been the difference between Marvel and DC.

2009-01-22 10:23:02
76.   Lexinthedena
I stumbled upon Colin Cowherd this morning talking about Jeff Kent...

here is what he said..

"So he is a hall of famer, even though he wasn't any good at the two things you expect from a second baseman....good defense, and t be a good chemistry guy"...then (sarcastically/dismisively) "but he hit a lot of homers"...

He is Plashkean in his wrongness.

2009-01-22 10:23:16
77.   Jon Weisman
59 - Films are being made today in every style and about every subject under the sun. Admittedly, some people will only see them via Netflix. But there's no issue about Hollywood not being able to come up with new ideas. Hollywood is simply making caluclated decisions about what sells. And given how strong the overall box office has been in a terrible economy, it's hard to really argue with them on that level.

In the end, if you're willing to watch films on DVD, you'll just about never run out of good stuff.

2009-01-22 10:24:11
78.   Jon Weisman
62 - We're surprised and trying to figure out why there were only three songs.

I did like that Peter Gabriel Wall-E song more than the Springsteen Wrestler song, though.

2009-01-22 10:24:24
79.   fanerman
Xeifrank... donde estas?
2009-01-22 10:25:30
80.   ToyCannon
73
Comic Book Movies in 2008
Iron Man
Dark Knight
Incredible Hulk
Hellboy II

As a big fan of the genre that was my ranking. Predator/Alien II was the worse movie I've seen in years. I''m sure there have been much lousier movies made but I don't waste time watching them. This one I did.

2009-01-22 10:27:37
81.   Eric Stephen
76
Sometimes I like to listen to Cowherd because he keeps me on my toes. You wouldn't expect a rational person to come up with many of the things Cowherd says.
2009-01-22 10:29:25
82.   Jon Weisman
Okay, I don't usually do this, and I might regret it, but ... Penelope Cruz on how she got the news of her nomination early this morning:

"I just flew in to L.A. last night and was with Salma Hayek and we watched together. Afterward, I fell back asleep for an hour. ..."

http://www.variety.com/awardcentral_article/VR1117998921.html

2009-01-22 10:39:21
83.   LogikReader
81

It amazes me to this day how clueless Herd is on baseball. He's a very good College Football guy, but man his baseball knowledge goes into the tank.

Every year too... I'll give him credit for predicting the Cubs' LDS performance, but still. Wow.

2009-01-22 10:41:18
84.   silverwidow
Will outfielder Matt Kemp enter the elite ranks in 2009?

"Elite" is relative, but Kemp's skills match up with the best. His .299 career batting average as a big-league greenhorn is impressive, and his power is beginning to creep. He's a line-drive hitter, so he may never hit 40 homers, but he makes up for it; his 35 steals from a year ago are the icing on the cake. With a full season under his belt, Kemp will be a hot ticket, and it may be justified.

Has Chad Billingsley emerged as a fantasy ace?

The 24-year-old reached 200 strikeouts for the first time last season and improved in ERA (3.14) and groundball-to-flyball rate (1.58). He also made strides in the walks-per-nine department (3.59). Now he has to do it consistently. The Dodgers have handed him the keys, and fantasy owners should do the same in a light-hitting NL West - but not as their No. 1 starter.

Is a bulky strikeout rate enough to make righty Jonathan Broxton a top fantasy closer?

Talent-wise, Broxton is as worthy as they come. He has punched out a career 11.43 batters per nine frames and boasts a 1.17 WHIP in 2008. He has one of the hardest fastballs in the major leagues, and his big size plays into the closer's mold. His makeup is still a little questionable, though. His ability screams top-five fantasy closer, but he must rein in his control, especially in pressure situations.

What will starting pitcher Clayton Kershaw's second season bring?

This 20-year-old major league sophomore faces larger-than-life expectations, but it's unlikely he'll live up to the billing in his second tour. The rookie has struggled to find the strike zone in his pro career and fails to go deep into games as a result. He'll probably dazzle at times, just don't expect an All-Star berth for a year or two.

http://www.kffl.com/article.php/99532/515

2009-01-22 10:41:47
85.   LogikReader
76

........I mean........ WHY would it be so important to be a good fielder for the Hall of Fame? Nobody gets nominated for defense. The only reason Mazeroski even made it, my opinion, is because of one home run against the Yankees in 1960. That and some favorable committee voting.

2009-01-22 10:43:40
86.   Marty
I generally don't care for comics/graphic novels, nor the movies made from them. I got dragged into The Spirit and really enjoyed the popcorn.
2009-01-22 10:47:46
87.   Jacob Burch
86 Spirit may be one of the worst Graphic Novel movies made in a while.

I still think there has to be some Graphic Novel I can trick most people here into reading. Hmmm

2009-01-22 10:50:25
88.   fanerman
87 Watchmen... or Maus?
2009-01-22 10:50:57
89.   fordprefect
86
My 16-yr-old who normally is undiscerning about super-hero/action/graphic novel movies was "meh" about The Spirit. That was my cue to avoid it.
2009-01-22 10:52:00
90.   kngoworld
The Dark Knight is in my top 3 for 2008. Heath Ledger took a character that almost everyone is familiar with, for this reason alone the expectations where very high. He took on a roll that 2 decades earlier was portrayed by one of the elite in Hollywood. People would always say, whenever they look at Jack they still see the Joker. Heath was able to completely reinvent that. Whenever Heath's Joker was on the screen you couldn't take your eyes off of him. His mannerisms, his demeanor, his laugh, all amazing to witness. It is rare for an actor to portray such a famous character and have not one critic give a bad review of the portrayal. That is impressive.

For me, the movie itself did not "feel" like a super hero movie. It felt more like a crime/mob triller. Sure all the characters are based on the comics, but it didn't have that fun campy feel you get from watching the Superman, Iron Man, and other comic films. The Dark Knight forced the viewer to think about deeper issues, then just rooting for a hero to save the day, and that is what blew me away.

2009-01-22 10:55:36
91.   Lexinthedena
85 Ozzie Smith, but yeah, you are pretty much right, but the part that amazed me the most was that the #2 expectation of a 2nd baseman is to be a good chemistry guy. I mean, Cowherd makes me want to bang my head into a wall. The guy should be talking sports out front of a 7-11.
2009-01-22 10:55:55
92.   Jacob Burch
88 I was thinking something with more accessible art--a key trait when I give stuff to people who aren't normal comics people.

I was thinking Ex Machina or Y: The Last Man. Brian K Vaughn being a Lost writer and an excellent selector of artists is a double whammy for here.

2009-01-22 11:09:01
93.   Eric Stephen
Not that this is something we didn't already know, but Keith Law said in a chat today that if his prospect rankings included players that lost their rookie eligibility in 2008, Kershaw would be in the top 5.

Law's current Top 5
1) Matt Wieters, C (Bal)
2) David Price, P (TB)
3) Jason Heyward, OF (Atl)
4) Neftali Feliz, P (Tex)
5) Travis Snider, OF (Tor)

2009-01-22 11:12:08
94.   68elcamino427
90
Thanks for a great post.
My 26 year old son sees all of the movies.
The Dark Knight is his favorite by a wide margin.
2009-01-22 11:15:34
95.   kinbote
93 BA says that Neftali Feliz might have a true 80 fastball. I can't wait to see it. Josh Hamilton is phenomenal, but you could put together an amazing young rotation with arms that Texas has jettisoned.
2009-01-22 11:18:42
96.   Jon Weisman
Supposedly the Jeff Kent news conference can be viewed live, I think at 11:30.

http://tinyurl.com/d5q9fk

2009-01-22 11:23:24
97.   cargill06
Was this Werth's 2nd year of Arbitration?
2009-01-22 11:25:18
98.   Jacob Burch
97 I believe it was his third year of eligibility.
2009-01-22 11:26:07
99.   Kevin Lewis
92

I have been wanting to read Watchmen, but is there something else I should start with.

2009-01-22 11:29:15
100.   Eric Stephen
97 ,98
Confirmed with Cot's, and this article from the Philadelphia Inquirer:

http://tinyurl.com/dgowq9

2009: $3m (includes $1m signing bonus)
2010: $7m
Total: 2/$10m

By signing a two-year deal, Werth gave up a chance to become a free agent after next season

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2009-01-22 11:32:30
101.   Jacob Burch
99 Watchmen and Sandman are the easy "Best" graphic novels ever by most critics, I just think they're art is a lot rawer and so they may not be the greatest entry points. If you pick up either and read a bit and have no problem getting engaged, there's no problem starting with the best.

If you wanted something flashier...

Video Game/irreverent fans: Scott PilgrimPolitical/Superhero: Ex Machina, Incredible fantastical serial: Y: The Last Man (both written by a now-writer for Lost)
Horror/Zombie Fiends: The Walking Dead

2009-01-22 11:33:26
102.   Eric Stephen
What is this salty discharge coming from Jeff Kent's eyes???
2009-01-22 11:34:27
103.   Eric Stephen
For those watching via MLB.com, can you see the video being played during the press conference? ESPNews didn't have access to that so as the highlight video is played the camera stayed on the podium (Kent, Rawitch, Colletti).
2009-01-22 11:34:37
104.   Jacob Burch
Also: The complete series of "The Wire" is Amazon's daily deal, for $81. It retails for 140-250 I believe.
2009-01-22 11:34:43
105.   Kevin Lewis
101

I know it is in there, but could you make the titles more obvious for me?

96

So far I am watching Game 1 of the ALDS

2009-01-22 11:35:36
106.   Kevin Lewis
Oh, here we go to Dodger Stadium
2009-01-22 11:37:09
107.   Kevin Lewis
Those are some awful chairs for Jeff and Ned
2009-01-22 11:37:25
108.   Kevin Lewis
Jeff looks bored or uncomfortable
2009-01-22 11:37:51
109.   Eric Stephen
108
He was crying with his head down during the playing of his highlight video.
2009-01-22 11:37:55
110.   D4P
I hope Jeff Kent enters the HOF as a Giant.
2009-01-22 11:39:13
111.   Eric Stephen
Both Josh Rawitch and Ned Colletti are not fans of Rogers Hornsby, Joe Morgan, Charlie Gehringer, or even Bobby Grich and a few others.

Both have called Kent the greatest offensive 2B in MLB history.

2009-01-22 11:39:27
112.   Jacob Burch
105

Y: The Last Man: http://tinyurl.com/YLastMan
Walking Dead: http://www.hiddenrobot.com/WALKINGDEAD/
Ex Machine: http://tinyurl.com/ExMachinaComic
Scott Pilgrim: http://scottpilgrim.com/

2009-01-22 11:40:37
113.   fanerman
110 I think we all do...
2009-01-22 11:40:44
114.   Kevin Lewis
109

Thanks for the info on that. If anything he is probably uncomfortable with all the praise and attention

2009-01-22 11:42:02
115.   Eric Stephen
110
I thought that was for the most part up to the HOF itself, but it's really not much of a question.

SF Kent: 900 games, 136 OPS+, MVP
LA Kent: 521 games, 118 OPS+

2009-01-22 11:46:56
116.   D4P
I thought that was for the most part up to the HOF itself

Really? I thought it was up to the player...

2009-01-22 11:47:29
117.   Jon Weisman
Kent just said he was thankful for the "Jeff Kent haters."
2009-01-22 11:52:26
118.   Eric Stephen
116
The HOF will consult with the inductees, but the Hall has the final say. When Wade Boggs, Jose Canseco and some others had HOF cap deals written into their contracts, the HOF decided to take control to put an end to this.
2009-01-22 11:53:31
119.   dianagramr
Jeff Kent a superior offensive 2B to Joe Morgan?

Well ... they did different things very well.

==============

Back to TDK for a moment:
I liked Ledger's performance more than the movie itself. The first half of the flim was nicely paced. The second half seemed to be a series of ... "hey ... we're about to hit the climactic scene ... so let's throw in one MORE twist".

2009-01-22 11:56:16
120.   KOREAN GUY
absolutely agree with comment 90. this didn't feel like a comic book movie. heath leger's performance was awesome.
2009-01-22 11:59:31
121.   Eric Stephen
Kent cried in his first Dodger press conference, and he cried in his last Dodger press conference.
2009-01-22 12:00:28
122.   Bob Timmermann
"Gentlemen, you won't have Jeff Kent to kick around anymore. This is my last press conference."
2009-01-22 12:00:43
123.   KG16
118 - I think as long as it's not an obscene abuse of baseball history a la Boggs, that the Hall goes along with the inductee's request. Boggs as a Devil Ray would make as much sense as Mays as a Met or Ruth as a Brave.
2009-01-22 12:02:05
124.   Pecos Bill
Dark Knight was a good movie but Heath Ledger physically acted while verbally impersonating Al Franken.
2009-01-22 12:03:39
125.   Eric Stephen
123
In the case of Boggs, he would have preferred a Yankee cap because of his bad terms with Boston management, but the Hall decided he would go in with a Red Sox cap.
2009-01-22 12:04:10
126.   dianagramr
118

Speaking of which, now that the Rays have achieved respectability, do you think they can "un-retire" Boggs' number? I mean, if the Bo Sox didn't retire Wade's # ....

2009-01-22 12:04:38
127.   ToyCannon
121
The rest of us cried after game one of the 2006 playoffs.

111
If would have been enjoyable to hear Josh say, that Jeff Kent was the 7th best offensive 2nd in history but retirement parties are always going to be made up of hyperbole as well they should.

2009-01-22 12:05:23
128.   68elcamino427
Matt Kemp - The Bison - my favorite player.
I am eager to see what kind of production Kemp (9-23-84) has when he attains Werth's (5-20-79) age about 2000 days from now.
2009-01-22 12:05:47
129.   jujibee
I'm at the point now, where after having read that the Dodgers might just bid against themselves for Manny and give him 3 years, where I think we should just pull back our offer. Do we really want Manny playing for us when he thinks he should be making more money? I think the only kind of deal that makes sense is to give him a deal like this:

-2 years at 20Mil/per
-1 million bonus for each multiple of ten HRs that he hits after 20
- (season average) x $10000000 bonus

So, for example if he hit .348 and had 42 HR's he would make:

$20 mil gauranteed
$1 mil for reaching 30 HR
$1 mil for reaching 40 HR
$3.48 mil for hitting .348
--------------------------------
25.48 mil for that season.

Something like this kind of contract would "help" him perform rather than have him recieve a large amount of gauranteed money and be disgruntled because he thinks he's being under paid.

2009-01-22 12:06:20
130.   dianagramr
In NBA news, Alonzo Mourning has officially retired.

A great, if star-crossed, career.

2009-01-22 12:08:45
131.   Eric Stephen
130
Mourning ended up waaaaay better than I thought he would be coming out of college. I may have just had an anti-Georgetown bias however.
2009-01-22 12:09:10
132.   LogikReader
127 111

Both have called Kent the greatest offensive 2B in MLB history.

The whole thing could have been solved by
adding the two words "one of..."

2009-01-22 12:10:28
133.   cargill06
129 I think Scott probably wants a mulligan on the declining of arbitration thing.

Where he could've waited for the Yankees to fall short of a title again than sign Holliday for 8-170 and Manny for 4-100.

2009-01-22 12:11:09
134.   berkowit28
129 I expect that the Dodgers will offer a third year with a considerably lower guarantee than years 1 and 2 but incentives that can get year 3 higher (maybe even theoretically higher than year 2). I wouldn't be surprised if they start negotiations by offering "a" year 3, but offer less money for years 1 and 2 than the earlier offer had, and then bring it back up again to get a deal.
2009-01-22 12:12:07
135.   Daniel Zappala
132 Maybe they want to be nice to Jeff Kent so they can ease him into a role as a coach in the organization. ;-)
2009-01-22 12:12:32
136.   Eric Stephen
I still think the bhsportsguy/Underdog 3/$66m prediction will come to fruition. It's just up to Scott and Ned to realize it.
2009-01-22 12:13:34
137.   ToyCannon
Maybe they meant to use "most" instead of "greatest" and got confused.
2009-01-22 12:18:51
138.   Bob Timmermann
Perhaps Chief Justice Roberts can come by and readminster the introduction.
2009-01-22 12:18:59
139.   fordprefect
135
after yelling at the kids to "get off my lawn"?
2009-01-22 12:21:50
140.   LogikReader
139

Do you suppose "Gran Torino" was based on a true story?

2009-01-22 12:21:57
141.   oshea2002
102 - a great episode. "This is horrible. I care!"
2009-01-22 12:23:47
142.   fordprefect
140
Excuse my limitless ignorance, but wasn't it?
2009-01-22 12:25:47
143.   LogikReader
142

It was a joke about Kent, actually, but yes, point well taken.

2009-01-22 12:26:16
144.   silverwidow
I wonder if Manny would accept 4/$100M, with $40M deferred without interest from 2013-2017.
2009-01-22 12:26:43
145.   taikwanboe
99 - Watchmen is proof that great art transcends medium and genre. There are other really great graphic novels out there, but none come even close to touching Watchmen in my opinion. It is one of the most profound statements about humanity ever put to paper.

I swear, if Alan Moore were writing prose, he would have his Nobel prize by now.

2009-01-22 12:28:30
146.   fordprefect
143
My ignorance is pointless as well as limitless. ;)
2009-01-22 12:29:30
147.   D4P
I wonder if Manny would accept his average seasonal Fangraphs Value from 2002-2008 of $16.04m/year.

Or maybe his 2007-2008 average of $16.65m/year.

2009-01-22 12:32:27
148.   Eric Enders
Wow, what in the world happened to the Best Song category? That's gotta be the biggest curveball in the history of Oscar nominations.
2009-01-22 12:33:53
149.   trainwreck
I loved Heath Ledger's performance. All his little ticks and small mannerisms make the performance. His character is over-the-top, but it works; works to a great degree. He did the ultimate challenge of really creating a character and making it work.
2009-01-22 12:35:31
150.   oshea2002
144 - interesting, save the money for when a TV deal would kick in. You could probably could put some level of interest in it and it would still be worth it, assuming whatever TV deal Frank gets is pretty good.
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2009-01-22 12:36:11
151.   trainwreck
150
Frank TV?
2009-01-22 12:49:46
152.   D4P
Actual headline currently up on Dodgers.com:

Emotional Kent looks back at game he loved

2009-01-22 12:56:50
153.   ToyCannon
149
I kind of remember people saying the same thing about Jack Nicholsons Joker.
No comparisons you say, you may be right but at the time it was a cool over the top performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqAvubu70Yc
2009-01-22 13:03:15
154.   Eric Enders
"Jenkins and Melissa Leo are the best news of the day. The Reader getting a best picture nomination is the worst news."

I haven't seen either The Visitor or Frozen River yet, but I'm really glad to see those two get nominated mostly because they were so great in Six Feet Under and Homicide, respectively.

For me the best news is Milk getting a Best Picture nod, coming after its near-total snub by the Golden Globes (even though they had twice as many Best Picture slots to hand out). It's the best thing I've seen this year by a fairly wide margin and I was expecting it to get snubbed.

The weirdest thing, obviously, was Springsteen's omission. I do think it was the best song this year, but I can't complain too much about the (approximately) 50th-best song he's ever written being left off the list. It just seems weird; that song was an Oscar slam dunk if ever there was one.

At least now I can root for M.I.A. to win. Not only was it a good song, but I love it when the best song winner is someone who clearly makes the majority of the stuffy old audience uncomfortable (e.g. Isaac Hayes, Eminem).

2009-01-22 13:05:36
155.   silverwidow
Dodgers pursuing Russ Springer

(Rosenthal).

2009-01-22 13:06:24
156.   trainwreck
153
It definitely worked at time and tone of film, but Dark Knight is a lot more serious of a film so the campy, funny Joker really would not work.

Of course, I think he is funny in a few scenes.

2009-01-22 13:06:27
157.   Eric Enders
I'd rather have Dennis Springer.
2009-01-22 13:07:40
158.   Jon Weisman
154 - I would put Visitor or Frozen River ahead of at least three best picture nominees.
2009-01-22 13:07:48
159.   ToyCannon
147
Based on fangrapsh, in 2007 Andruw Jones was worth exactly what he got paid, 14 Million. So that would have meant his salary should have been 14 Million in 2008 based on your point. Yet, when he was given 14 Million in 2008 by the Dodgers you have pointed out many times how foolhardy that was.

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=96&position=OF#standard

For every contract someone signs you show us what they were worth at fangraphs as though it is a bible but yet you didn't seem to care what Fangraphs thought of the A Jones contract.

I salute your independent thought.

2009-01-22 13:08:22
160.   Eric Enders
At the time I recall a lot of people saying of Nicholson's joker that there wasn't much acting involved; he was just being Jack Nicholson.

Of course, I guess you could say that about almost any Nicholson performance.

2009-01-22 13:09:58
161.   D4P
you didn't seem to care what Fangraphs thought of the A Jones contract

As far as I know, the Fangraphs Value stat wasn't available when Ned signed Jones. If it had been, I would have seen that Andruw's value had gone from 27.4 to 24.6 to 14.0.

Not exactly an encouraging trend.

2009-01-22 13:11:14
162.   trainwreck
160
You can say that about a lot of actors.
2009-01-22 13:12:17
163.   Bob Hendley
131 - Yeah, you called it. Alonzo was a monster in college ball.
2009-01-22 13:12:30
164.   D4P
You can say that about a lot of actors

It's true, which is partly why I think it's funny that they get paid so much. But whatever.

2009-01-22 13:12:51
165.   Eric Enders
I have never heard this before, and am highly skeptical, but Backstreets Magazine quotes one Academy member thusly:

"I'm a member of the Academy, and they haven't even made this very clear to us, but there's been a change in rules, and now the only songs that are eligible for consideration are songs that appear in the body of the film, and not over the end credits. So 'The Wrestler' (and Clint's song) weren't eligible this year. Which is, I think, ridiculous, as 'The Wrestler' is so very much a part of the movie, and punctuates it beautifully. The idea, though, is to stop producers from just tossing in a Celine Dion song at the end. I suspect it'll change back eventually."

2009-01-22 13:14:35
166.   OhioBlues12
The thing that I took away from TDK, was not so much Ledger's performance, though I thought it was great, but rather the story involving Eckhart. A city was pinning its hopes on one man and it was not Batman, it Harvey Dent and his ability to affect real lasting change. The tragedy that ensued is what stayed with me.
2009-01-22 13:15:12
167.   Jon Weisman
165 - The Peter Gabriel song is an end credit song. So is one of the Slumdog songs I believe.
2009-01-22 13:16:04
168.   Eric Enders
164 You don't think that's exactly WHY they get paid so much? To your average moviegoer there's a certain level of comfort in going to see a Jennifer Aniston movie or a Denzel Washington movie. You pretty much know what you're going to get, and a lot of people like it that way. This is also why places like Applebee's and Chili's are able to stay in business.
2009-01-22 13:20:22
169.   cargill06
I don't know much about Russ Springer but his K rates and HR's have been very good the last two years. Any explaination or just dumb luck?
2009-01-22 13:20:45
170.   trainwreck
166
As a whole, TDK tried to say something, which rarely happens with big budget summer blockbusters, especially super-hero ones.

And the film was also very entertaining, which is what doomed Ang Lee's version of the Hulk.

2009-01-22 13:21:57
171.   Jacob Burch
167 I believe some of both of those songs are played in the score. If true, it's a stupid rule too open to exploit.
2009-01-22 13:24:48
172.   Eric Enders
If two of the top five vote-getters were deemed ineligible, that might explain why there are only three songs instead of the usual five.

I'm still not believing it until I see better documentation, though.

2009-01-22 13:25:16
173.   Daniel Zappala
168 Hey, I went to Applebee's the other night. Sure, it was because my son got a free kids meal for having good grades, but still, I resent being painted with that broad brush.
2009-01-22 13:33:07
174.   Lexinthedena
The first graphic novels I ever really got into were both about Lobo. I thought he was so awesome as a kid, and I loved the humor.

Watchmen, and Maus are both great works of art.

2009-01-22 13:34:39
175.   Jacob Burch
The four I recommended are for a) getting into current graphic novels b) people who are entirely new to Graphic Novels, and may or may not be put off by the somewhat raw art found in a few classics. Similar to why I won't recommend In an Aeroplane over the Sea right away to people who want new music, despite thinking it as the best album of the decade.
2009-01-22 13:36:06
176.   Eric Stephen
Good news! I found a local Hollywood Video that has Freaks and Geeks discs 1 & 2 available for rent. I joined Greencine, but was sent discs 3-5 because 1 & 2 were unavailable.
2009-01-22 13:39:59
177.   Xeifrank
79. Waiting for baseball chat. :)
If you are looking for me to give a movie review, I have a macro that gives 45 out of 46 Hollywood movies one-star. Of course, if it's Rain Man, then I give it four-stars.
vr, Xei
2009-01-22 13:41:50
178.   ToyCannon
More on Jeff Kent
http://tinyurl.com/aagdw7

and some observations about ticket sales in this economy.
http://tinyurl.com/cwkxrt

We renewed but only because my Partner said he'd buy all the tickets if I didn't want to renew. From what I understand the people in front and behind did not renew. I said no to the WBC strip because I'm sure I can buy better seats if I even want to bother going.

2009-01-22 13:51:53
179.   eekrock
175 good record. not my favorite, but a great record nonetheless. now if only Jeff Mangum would come out of his cave and put something else on wax. that live version of I Love How You Love Me does get me through now and then, though.
2009-01-22 13:52:35
180.   kinbote
177 What does your win machine say regarding the difference between signing Garland and signing Wolf?
2009-01-22 14:04:56
181.   Jacob Burch
179 The entire "Live at Jittery Joes" (where I presume that live version of I Love How You Love Me) is worth it. Sort of an eerie album if you're well aware of the history/interworkings of Aeroplane.
2009-01-22 14:07:33
182.   Jacob Burch
Ever since ending my Wallet-in-Back-Pocket habit, I've become ever interested in getting a new bag or two. I have a bag I use for my bike gear that works well enough for now, but I need a new "on the go" bag for books/notebooks/pens/spare change/etc to take to and from work/off-site meetings/etc. I will probably just get a cover for The New Laptop whenever I get one/steal IndianaJon's, but I may invest in a new laptop bag as well.

I have a TimBuk2 laptop bag for my old laptop, but it's worn and torn as bad as the iBook itself--which is to say, on it's last legs. Nothing at fault with either the bag or the machine--I put both through some serious hard situations.

2009-01-22 14:10:00
183.   Xeifrank
180. I left my win machine on my computer at home. Eye-balling each players last three years of weighted stats, Garland is better. Using 2009 projections, the gap is narrowed quite a bit. I will have to let you know later this evening. Right now the win machine is busy simulating the entire 2007 season, trying to squeek out a few extra wins for the Dodgers.
vr, Xei
2009-01-22 14:12:50
184.   Kevin Lewis
183

How might we had fared with a healthy Jeff Kent last year?

2009-01-22 14:21:35
185.   Tripon
According to Ken Rosenthal, the A's, Twins, and Dodgers are pursuing Russ Springer. Rosenthal adds that the Twins prefer Springer to Eric Gagne. The Twins' interest in Springer was first reported by Seth Stohs, while Buster Olney mentioned the A's a few days ago. Ken Gurnick had the Springer-Dodgers connection back in December.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9118908/Sources:-Cards,-Tigers,-others-eye-relievers?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=49

If you're going after Springer, why sign Mota?

2009-01-22 14:25:10
186.   Dodgers49
11 Subjectively his routes need lots of work and he doesn't get good jumps off the ball. He can make up for that with his speed but his speed will go fast so we only have a small window that he can play centerfield.

But that seems to assume his routes and jumps will not improve. Matt Kemp is a raw talent whom I believe will get better and better the more he plays. My feeling is that if Kemp plays centerfield for the next two or three years he will come to be regarded as one of the top centerfielders in the league. In any event, it should be very interesting for fans of this team as we get to watch and see which of our views turns out to be the correct one.

2009-01-22 14:36:18
187.   Tripon
Sources: Dodgers have inside track to sign Wolf

The Dodgers, seeking to replenish their rotation, have the inside track on signing free-agent left-hander Randy Wolf, according to major-league sources.

The signing of Wolf, most likely to a one- or two-year deal, would deprive the Mets of a leading alternative to their top choice, free-agent lefty Oliver Perez.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9120894/Sources:-Dodgers-have-inside-track-to-sign-Wolf-

2009-01-22 14:38:08
188.   Dodgers49
44 Those underhand throws usually come when he's got no chance.

Which I think is the smart thing to do and I've often wondered why most other outfielders don't do so as well. The underhand throw is easier on the arm. So why bother throwing overhand on those plays where it doesn't matter anyway?

2009-01-22 14:45:15
189.   Bob Timmermann
189
Because if you throw underhand when it doesn't matter, you get the reputation of being a guy who doesn't try hard enough.

Would David Eckstein ever do that? Would Brandon Inge do that?

2009-01-22 14:45:53
190.   D4P
Would Gary Bennett ever do that?
2009-01-22 14:49:02
191.   Bob Timmermann
Gary Bennett always threw overhand.

He cared.

He cared so much that he threw the ball too far.

He cared so much that he cried because he knew Andrew Shimmin hated him so much.

2009-01-22 14:52:06
192.   68elcamino427
Career OPS+ 155
Is anyone really questioning what Mr. Ultimo is capable of?
The man showed last season that he can "turn it on" when the situation calls for it.

Just playing "normal" the dude is great.

Why not sign him up?

2009-01-22 14:55:05
193.   whodat807
Just dropping in for graphic novel thoughts :)

92 I agree, Y: the Last Man is unbelievably excellent. That last issue makes me tear up every time I pick it up.

99 watchmen is a masterpiece, but it works best as a deconstruction on the superhero genre, so dipping your toes into other series first might make it more enjoyable. But it stands up on it's own, too.

And I can't recommend Neil Gaiman's Sandman enough. Just a beautifully written book.

2009-01-22 15:01:47
194.   Kevin Lewis
Pasadena library says it has Volume 1 of Y: The Last Man. I am hopeful but realistic.
2009-01-22 15:03:51
195.   Bleacher Seats
There goes the HOF for BigMac:

Mark McGwire may still refuse to talk about the past, but his little brother is apparently more than happy to spill the family secrets about performance-enhancing drugs.

Deadspin.com reported Wednesday that Jay McGwire has been shopping a book proposal to major publishing houses that claims he introduced the scandal-stained slugger to steroids and that he also used human growth hormone.

According to Deadspin.com, Jay Mc-Gwire claims he introduced his brother to a steroid dealer shortly after he won a bodybuilding contest in May 1994. The supplier, who was also a trainer, explained how different drugs affected the body and answered his brother's questions.

In the proposal, Jay McGwire said his brother used low dosages of drugs so that he wouldn't become too bulky for baseball. Jay said Mark used Deca-Durabolin to recover from workouts and ease joint pain.

2009-01-22 15:04:50
196.   whodat807
Oh and on the subject of Watchmen: the art is so incredibly detailed, it invites multiple readthroughs to soak in all care that went into it's composition. Check out the "Frightful Symmetry" issue - it shocked me on my third or fourth read to discover the Gibbons went to great pains to make the entire issue compositionally symmetrical.
2009-01-22 15:08:21
197.   Indiana Jon
I'm as big of a Manny fan as anyone, but I'm beginning to believe that we should pass on him. Watching salaries deflate this off-season, it's starting to look like we could get Dunn, Sheets, and Wolf (maybe even Perez) for the same money as just Manny. That's if you believe any of the rumors. I'm not smart enough to run the numbers and see what that means for estimated wins, but I think it has to be better. That would give us a rotation of Billz, Sheets, Kuroda, Kershaw, and Wolf, not too shabby, with McDonald and Stults as insurance.
2009-01-22 15:10:49
198.   Jacob Burch
194 Hopefully you can grab it, let us know if you do. Issue #1 is available online as well, if you wanted to sink your teeth in a bit.
2009-01-22 15:12:36
199.   JoeyP
I wonder how many Dodgers will have followed the career path of Randy Wolf (if he becomes a Dodger)...

Year 1: Dodger
Year 2: Another team
Year 3. Dodger

2009-01-22 15:18:10
200.   cargill06
199 Maddux comes to mind
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2009-01-22 15:19:46
201.   JoeyP
Yep, good call.
2009-01-22 15:21:16
202.   LogikReader
Just received word of a Dodger Stadium Open House, Saturday.

Not the best timing with the weather for this thing...

2009-01-22 15:22:04
203.   LogikReader
199

I guess it's not consecutive years, but Tom Goodwin springs to mind. Did Carrara end up on another team before coming back?

2009-01-22 15:23:39
204.   Bob Timmermann
Gio Carrara left the Dodgers for one year to go to Seattle and then came back.

All rejoiced.

2009-01-22 15:25:16
205.   Jon Weisman
204 - I'm attending a Saturday night event at Dodger Stadium that my high school is sponsoring. Is yours a daytime thing?

199, 200, 201, 203 - Wow, you guys are totally undercutting an upcoming post of mine. Bummer.

2009-01-22 15:25:31
206.   Indiana Jon
199 Hopefully Jason Schmidt.

Oh, Inland Empire doesn't count as "Another Team"?

2009-01-22 15:26:15
207.   Bob Timmermann
205
Glad to be of disservice.
2009-01-22 15:27:03
208.   LogikReader
205

Yep, it's a daytime event, from Noon-4pm.

I haven't been personally invited, but Dodgers.com is hoping I'll come over and be swept off my feet with great ticket packages.

2009-01-22 15:28:02
209.   silverwidow
Wolf got torched when Ausmus was behind the plate last year.
2009-01-22 15:39:26
210.   Eric Stephen
209
One start only though, right?
2009-01-22 15:39:41
211.   Disabled List
205 I think Jon just got LAT'd.
2009-01-22 15:39:55
212.   cargill06
Furcal? He went from Atl to LA to Atl for a few hours back to LA?

Brett Butler?

2009-01-22 15:41:14
213.   Kevin Lewis
198

Do you mean in digital format or for sale?

2009-01-22 15:42:09
214.   Jacob Burch
213 Digital format. Not the funnest way, but as its only one issue (instead of one volume), it's an alright way to see how the series is drawn/laid out.
2009-01-22 15:45:38
215.   DaDoughboy
Dave Hansen?
2009-01-22 15:52:23
216.   nofatmike
Dodger Blues has a feature on this:

http://tinyurl.com/dkfuph

2009-01-22 15:53:44
217.   silverwidow
210 Yeah, looks like it was Wolf's first start as an Astro.

Ironic that Ausmus had 4 hits that night.

2009-01-22 15:53:48
218.   Jon Weisman
I'm going to remember this, people ...
2009-01-22 15:56:22
219.   Bob Timmermann
We're all on the Dodger Thoughts Enemies List.

The IRS will be calling us in for audits.

2009-01-22 15:57:26
220.   LogikReader
216

Oh Goodness! Omaar Daal... that article brought back repressed memories!

2009-01-22 16:03:15
221.   nofatmike
216 Matt Luke is probably one of the few players to have a "double play" within one season. Began 1998 with the Dodgers, picked up on waivers by Cleveland, then picked up by the Dodgers (after only playing 2 games for the Indians) to finish the season.
2009-01-22 16:03:19
222.   Tripon
The Brewers signed Prince Fielder with a two year/$18 million contract, leaving his last year of arbitration in 2011 free.

Who would you have for the next two years, Prince Fielder, or Ryan Howard?

2009-01-22 16:05:21
223.   DaDoughboy
217.
Wow, Matt Luke has to be one of the only ones to actually do this in the same year (1998) unless i'm mistaken..
2009-01-22 16:06:56
224.   DaDoughboy
221.
oops
2009-01-22 16:08:11
225.   DaDoughboy
221.
I have to ask you nofatmike..is your name any in any way related to trash punk band NoFx?
2009-01-22 16:08:19
226.   ToyCannon
My favorite Lee Lacy went from Dodger to Atlanta back to Dodgers
2009-01-22 16:09:41
227.   ToyCannon
217
I expected that to happen to Wolf the rest of the year, I was quite surprised he pitched so well for the Astros.
2009-01-22 16:22:38
228.   GoBears
Sorry - late to the movie talk, but I figured this was worth mentioning.

I watch very few movies in the theater - probably 1 per year on average. Watch more on TV or DVD, but really, I'm pretty out of the loop. The first time I heard of Heath Ledger was when he died. As far as I know, I'd never seen him act.

I saw Dark Knight on a transatlantic flight a couple months ago (right after Batman Begins), and I really enjoyed it. I had no idea who played the Joker, but made it a point to look it up when I got home because I thought he was just fantastic. Only when I was reading online comments did I connect Ledger's name to the memory of his death (because many of the comments made the point that it was too bad he was gone).

So there you go. I had zero expectations - didn't even know who I was watching - and I thought his performance stole the show in an all-around great movie. Whether he was better than the other nominees or not, I have no clue.

2009-01-22 16:28:06
229.   nofatmike
225 (sigh) It was a play-on-words I came up with when I was 9 that I used for my s/n. Since I was really skinny at the time, and my first name is "Mike," I decided to substitute "mike" in for "milk," hence "nofatmike." I had no idea there was a band named "NoFX," or a guy named "Fat Mike" in that band.

The sick irony is that I actually hate punk, and yet I always used to get IM's from promoters or musicians who thought I was a NoFX fan, and kept IM'ing or emailing me to check out their band. Thank god for the "blocking" feature.

2009-01-22 16:28:34
230.   PDH5204
Jon, re the Hardball Times piece, you should have stopped reading at "Retrosheet". I don't suppose that the thought occurred to our author that the runner was out or held not owing to arm strength but instead because of speed in getting to the ball? Then there's all of those other items that have to do with the physical reality of the event. Suffice it to say that the flawed nature of the construct is truly extraordinary [you might call it "breathtaking" in its incompetence].

Maybe you could suggest to our author that there's a reason why the NFL has this thing called the scouting combine. Matt's got a plus arm, no doubt about that, but he'd also do well in the 3 cone drill, and that ability helps hold and throw out runners. Ditto his time in the 40 yard dash.

Sorry, but for Eric Stephen, no, you are not crazy [going back to your one remark of a week or so ago]. My post concerning the HOF voting and Reggie Smith was in reference to a prior thread re Mr. Henderson's induction. Speaking of rifles for arms, Reggie had one. Also, here is the line for one HOF RF:

.317 .359 .475 130

Reggie's line:

.287 .366 .489 137

So if you took Clemente in the draft just before me, I wouldn't exactly be crushed in having to pick Reggie Smith for my RF with the pick following yours.

2009-01-22 16:31:21
231.   Kevin Lewis
214

Wow, that was really exciting.

2009-01-22 16:44:42
232.   D4P
Depo, on Henry Blanco:

Throughout the off-season we have been discussing the idea of bringing in a veteran catcher who could help mentor both our young catchers and our young starting pitchers. We feel that Henry fits the role perfectly, especially since he has maintained an 86.2 MR (mentor rating) over the past three seasons.

2009-01-22 16:46:07
233.   Jacob Burch
231 If you get hooked [and most do], note that there are a few down issues, but that it usually picks it self up before too long.
2009-01-22 16:47:22
234.   scareduck
199 - if you don't care about the number of interceding years, Maury Wills counts.

Players who returned to the Dodgers after one year with another team:

Jim Bruske
Giovanni Carrara
Joe Ferguson
Jake Flowers
Harry Howell
Jimmy Scheckard
Bart Shirley
Paul Waner

2009-01-22 16:48:09
235.   scareduck
234 - and of course Maddux, but he's not in the Lahman database just yet.
2009-01-22 16:57:28
236.   bferb
Given this news about being in the lead for Randy Wolf, why are we NOT pursuing Sheets!? Wolf is equally a risk injury-wise unless there is something that we don't know about Sheets' elbow. I know Sheets would be a little more expensive, but worth the risk IMO. Even if he only threw 115 innings or something, at least they would be ace quality innings and we could get another 100 innings most likely out of Troncoso/Stults
2009-01-22 16:58:51
237.   bferb
232 Is that real? Mentor Rating?
2009-01-22 17:03:26
238.   silverwidow
236 Sheets would cost the #17 pick in the Draft. And since we're not getting any first round picks for Lowe or Manny, we need to keep it.
2009-01-22 17:03:40
239.   scareduck
237 - as real as the Mentos rating.
2009-01-22 17:09:59
240.   bferb
238 Ah right. Thanks for reminding me. My personal disdain of the thought of overpaying Randy Wolf clouded my thought process.
2009-01-22 17:11:59
241.   ToyCannon
238
You think that is a good enough reason not to sign Sheets because of losing a 17th round pick? I can understand the argument about his health, but a healthy Sheets is one of the best pitchers in baseball. That seems to be worth a gamble on a 17th round pick. Maybe you get Cole Hamels but more then likely you get Daniel Denham.
2009-01-22 17:13:44
242.   D4P
237
From Depo:

Before anyone gets too worked up, the mentor rating is a complete fabrication... but it was fun to write. Let's make sure we don't take all of these stats (or ourselves) too seriously.

2009-01-22 17:14:20
243.   trainwreck
Good old Daniel Denham. That guy was destroying the schools in my area when I was a freshman.
2009-01-22 17:16:30
244.   silverwidow
241 17th overall pick is very valuable to me.

We might be able to find a Scherzer type, if they want someone who can help soon.

2009-01-22 17:18:19
245.   trainwreck
Or more likely, another high school pitcher.
2009-01-22 17:18:57
246.   ToyCannon
230
John Walsh put a lot of effort into his piece, so if you are just going to toss it aside at least give the same effort he did in explaining why it is a flawed study. Your one derogatory sentence did not do justice in explaining why you held the piece in such disdain.
2009-01-22 17:21:58
247.   ToyCannon
242
I always like Depo's sense of humor. Maybe he didn't communicate well with the no nonsense humorless personalities of his bosses.

244
Having an ace could help now. Just saying.

2009-01-22 17:22:36
248.   ToyCannon
243
What happened? I noticed he never even made it to the bigs.
2009-01-22 17:24:33
249.   Jon Weisman
http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/2009/01/story-oscars--1.html

"Unlike other branches — such as acting, which uses a preferential ballot — the music makers screen clips of all the eligible entries and then score them on a sliding scale from 6 to 10 with half point increments in between. If a member has a song in contention, they are ineligible to vote. Only those songs that score an average of at least 8.25 out of 10 among the participating music branch members are eligible to be nominated.

"Since there were only three nominees this year, we know that they were the only ones to make this cut-off score. Even if Springsteen's song scored 8/10 from everyone voting, the academy has ruled that this would not be enough to merit an Oscar nomination."

2009-01-22 17:24:38
250.   scareduck
247 - DePo brought on board players with personality issues, and himself wasn't too cozy with the media. Those are probably the reasons he's no longer the Dodgers' GM.
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2009-01-22 17:25:32
251.   D4P
247
I like his sense of humor too. He seems like a good guy.
2009-01-22 17:26:17
252.   silverwidow
247
Having an ace could help now. Just saying.

But, but, we already have one!

2009-01-22 17:27:06
253.   Jon Weisman
Ricketts taking over Cubs? Get well soon.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/01/tribune-has-fav.html

2009-01-22 17:39:12
254.   Dodgers49
Mets Not Interested in Free-Agent Manny Ramirez, Wilpon Says

>> "I know the perception out there again is that ownership said no," Wilpon said today in an interview at Citi Field. "I don't have the opportunity to say no because Omar hasn't brought it to me as an option. Omar and the baseball staff aren't interested." <<

http://tinyurl.com/dycg4a

2009-01-22 17:44:16
255.   Tom Meagher
So will the Dodgers pay more to Jason Schmidt in 2009 than Ben Sheets will get paid in 2009 and 2010 combined? Is there any reason whatsoever to believe that Randy Wolf will log more innings in 2009 than Sheets?
2009-01-22 17:51:08
256.   underdog
That Jeff Kent press conference, which I just watched, was interesting -- there's clearly so much more to the guy than we saw publicly for most of his career. Sometimes wish he'd showed that side more often. But he's obviously more complex than I sometimes thought. Anyway, here it is, if you missed it.

http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200901223764818

2009-01-22 17:53:31
257.   trainwreck
248
I believe control issues have done him in.
2009-01-22 17:58:00
258.   CanuckDodger
250 -- Why DePo got fired is something we are just never going to stop talking about, it seems. To add something that hasn't been mentioned here before, a fan on Dodgers.com who claims to have met Ken Gurnick because their kids are on the same Little League team has said that Gurnick told him two things that he thinks got DePo fired: (1) DePo was determined to get rid of Logan White and replace him with somebody who shared his philosophy on drafting players, and (2) DePo picked Terry Collins to be the Dodgers' manager, when Collins was someone whom Lasorda hated.
2009-01-22 18:00:45
259.   fanerman
258 I've heard about the Terry Collins thing before. Never the Logan White thing.
2009-01-22 18:01:57
260.   Gen3Blue
Speaking of "double-play" Dodgers (those who were Dodgers twice) although the dates don't look quite right, wasn't Bobby Castillo the pitcher who in legend taught Fernando the knuckle ball.
2009-01-22 18:04:39
261.   Eric Stephen
Rashida Jones just showed up on Freaks and Geeks.

So far my favorite bit of casting (through 3+ episodes) is Squints from Sandlot as a bully.

2009-01-22 18:08:05
262.   overkill94
A little late to the Dark Knight discussion, but I totally agree with the Heath Ledger nomination even though I thought the movie was just pretty good. His effort was one of those Method Acting moments that you knew few actors could pull off yet still left you totally entertained.

I don't have much of an opinion yet about most of the nominees since Slumdog Millionaire and Frost/Nixon are the only highly nominated movies I've seen, but hopefully over the next few weeks I can check out some of the other nominees.

2009-01-22 18:10:22
263.   Gen3Blue
If true--thank god Depo didn't get rid of Logan White. I would actually like to see Depo get a chance to work his system somewhere, but if he's the one with the Pads, its time wasted.
2009-01-22 18:20:33
264.   underdog
261 - She was totally crazy on that one, too (speaking of bullies). Have you gotten to the mascot one yet? Nice cameo from a young lad now more famous.
2009-01-22 18:22:27
265.   bablue
252 The more the merrier. I think Sheets is more valuable than the 17th pick, especially if he's signed to a two year deal. That said, if we got Sheets and Wolf, I doubt we can get Manny. Can we get Sheets, Wolf, and Dunn? Or just forget Wolf, but I think its unlikely Ned doesn't sign one of the mid-tier starters.
2009-01-22 18:24:46
266.   underdog
This is an odd soccer piece. Did you realize that "Spain is the Brooklyn Dodgers of soccer"?

http://www.intersportswire.com/archives/249

Still trying to wrap my head around that one. The writer must be very old, or just a little odd.

2009-01-22 18:41:14
267.   Xeifrank
180. I have Garland worth 1/2 a win more than Wolf. The difference coming from Garland pitching vs the AL and Wolf vs the NL. When normalizing Garland to the NL, he becomes worth 1/2 a win more.
vr, Xei
2009-01-22 18:42:40
268.   trainwreck
I am not sure I am prepared for a world where Nikola Dragovic is doing well.
2009-01-22 18:52:43
269.   Tripon
The Mets sign Freddy Garcia. And Oliver Perez is screeeeeeeeeewed.
2009-01-22 18:53:18
270.   Bob Timmermann
I was hoping that the UCLA game would go all the way to the end of the first half without the under 4:00 timeout.
2009-01-22 18:56:07
271.   berkowit28
266 Hmmm. I wonder if the whole of Spain is going to pick up and move to the Los Angeles of soccer, wherever that might be. Brazil, maybe? They'd all have to learn another language. Maybe Mexico would be better. Then the New York Giants of soccer (I dunno - Netherlands?) could all move to Uruguay.
2009-01-22 18:59:44
272.   Eric Stephen
269
Isn't it just a minor league deal?
2009-01-22 18:59:53
273.   underdog
270 Would someone win a million dollars if they called a timeout right at the 4:00 mark?
2009-01-22 19:04:38
274.   Tripon
272 Ah, your right.
2009-01-22 19:05:27
275.   Tripon
Emeril to Judge Top Chef Finale in New Orleans

http://www.yumsugar.com/2719479

2009-01-22 19:06:03
276.   Bob Timmermann
273
Ben Howland would probably try to call a timeout at exactly 8:00 or 4:00 so he could get more rest for his team.

And drive Greg Brock and trainwreck insane.

2009-01-22 19:07:20
277.   scareduck
FSN Prime Ticket will start running a series of historical Dodger games on Tuesdays starting Feb. 3, called "True Blue Tuesdays".

http://fromthedugout.freedomblogging.com/2009/01/22/red-monday-true-blue-tuesday-on-tap/11260/

2009-01-22 19:11:27
278.   trainwreck
276
Does not bother me and he has done that multiple times.
2009-01-22 19:11:35
279.   Marty
275 I've never watched the show, but that looks like the JTS moment.
2009-01-22 19:14:33
280.   Tripon
279 Actually, its kinda of a milestone since the Food Network has a policy of not allowing its employees of not doing work on Top Chef. And Emeril can actually cook, who's built up his restaurant empire the old fashioned way. The shumcky TV show came later.
2009-01-22 19:33:52
281.   Jacob Burch
280 Does Emeril actually work for Food Network anymore? I thought Martha bought most of his property rights, and that the only shows he makes in production are on discovery.
2009-01-22 19:44:42
282.   Eric Stephen
I can't decide if Kevin Tighe was a worst dad on Freaks & Geeks or Lost.
2009-01-22 19:44:59
283.   Eric Stephen
worse
2009-01-22 19:49:31
284.   trainwreck
I am pretty sure trying to murder your son and stealing his kidney is far worse than being a strict jerk.
2009-01-22 19:51:06
285.   Bob Timmermann
Never in doubt!
2009-01-22 19:54:07
286.   kinbote
267 Thank you very much for taking the trouble to figure that out. I guess I'll lean ever so slightly toward Wolf. For me, each has his pluses and minuses: Garland is dependable but hittable; Wolf is a crafty LH but fragile. Assuming Sheets is out of the equation, Pettitte is the one I'd most like to see added.
2009-01-22 19:54:21
287.   Andrew Shimmin
The Hendrickson shout-out was bad juju for the Cougars.
2009-01-22 19:59:15
288.   ChicagoDodger
Question for anyone who can answer.

I realize that Ben Sheets costs the Dodgers the 17th pick. So that brings up a question. How long do the Brewers receive compensation? For example, what if Sheets went unsigned until July or August (after the June draft). Do the Brewers get a pick in the 2010 draft? What if he wasn't signed until July 2010? Do the Brewers get a pick in the 2011 draft? And so on? Or is there some point where compensation no longer applies?

2009-01-22 20:00:53
289.   Tripon
If Sheets isn't signed before the draft, the Brewers receive no compensation for him.
2009-01-22 20:01:51
290.   El Lay Dave
284 Roy DeSoto they're not!
2009-01-22 20:05:28
291.   ChicagoDodger
289 So the June draft is the cutoff?

Thanks for the answer.

I appreciate it.

2009-01-22 20:18:33
292.   Eric Stephen
288 ,289
Jim Callis looked into this in a Baseball America chat last week:

I checked with an MLB source and a couple of team sources, and they were 99 percent sure that once the draft passes, a team would lose any compensation

http://tinyurl.com/brdnjr

2009-01-22 20:28:12
293.   Tripon
292 The Brewers are getting hosed this off season.
2009-01-22 20:32:20
294.   Jacob Burch
If Ben Sheets doesn't sign by 6/5, I'll eat my hat.
2009-01-22 20:34:22
295.   Kevin Lewis
Okay, who ran over to the Pasadena library and checked out vol. 1 of Y: The Last Man before I could?

Lex, I am on to you

2009-01-22 20:35:07
296.   jasonungar07
What do you guys think would happen to this place if Ned signed Cora for 2 million to be a back up infielder like the Mets did?
2009-01-22 20:35:52
297.   trainwreck
295
I am sure you can read it online.
2009-01-22 20:36:18
298.   Tripon
I would fully expect DeWitt to be traded, and Cora starting until DeJesus was ready.
2009-01-22 20:38:28
299.   Bob Timmermann
295
I'm betting the book was checked out by Five Fingers Mary.
2009-01-22 20:39:16
300.   El Lay Dave
292 The governing item in the CBA seems to be:

Such compensation shall consist solely of the amateur draft choices described in subparagraph (c) below and shall be awarded in the Major League Rule 4 Draft succeeding the Player's election of free agency.

Seems pretty hard to award the sandwich pick after the draft occurs!

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2009-01-22 20:42:25
301.   El Lay Dave
296 D4P would tell us what Cora's fangraphs value is.
2009-01-22 20:43:53
302.   jasonungar07
298 No I mean to Dodgerthoughts. It would break. Jon would have to move the dodgerthoughts.
2009-01-22 20:44:14
303.   Tripon
Cora was worth $3.4 million in 2008.
2009-01-22 20:46:28
304.   El Lay Dave
299 A google search yields only some rather rude stuff. And shouldn't that alliterate better? Five Fingers Fiona or some such?
2009-01-22 20:48:09
305.   Jon Weisman
We have had much bigger fish to fry than Alex Cora.
2009-01-22 20:52:42
306.   Tripon
Like Guillermo Mota.
2009-01-22 20:53:52
307.   Bob Timmermann
304
Ten finger checkout?
2009-01-22 21:17:42
308.   Eric Enders
299 She must be married to the man who framed Richard Kimble.
2009-01-22 21:22:06
309.   Marty
I first read that as five finger Marty. I was gonna get indignant.
2009-01-22 21:23:58
310.   ibleedbloo
I have had the same debate that those on The Office are having tonight. The episode is not over yet, but so far I am on Kevin's side.
2009-01-22 21:24:19
311.   Bob Timmermann
Break up the Beavers. OSU wins in Berkeley.
2009-01-22 21:29:13
312.   Jon Weisman
Great Office tonight. Special kudos for Stanley.
2009-01-22 21:29:40
313.   El Lay Dave
307 Premature withdrawal. Is there a substantial penalty for it?
2009-01-22 21:33:06
314.   Gen3Blue
It feels wonderful to have three outfielders with decent arms. I've seen certain rating systems that have denigrated Etheir and even Kemp's defense, and they only make me smile. I'm more confident in what I can see with my own eyes. And of course only a few years back watching both Pierre and L. Gonzo in the same outfield makes having good arms feels like the ultimate in luxury. And Manny's arm would also seem great.
2009-01-22 21:35:38
315.   Bob Timmermann
Actually, looking at the Pasadena PL catalog, I think the copies of Y: The Last Man were actually checked out. They all have due dates in the near future.
2009-01-22 21:38:39
316.   trainwreck
Looks like Notre Dame is going to steal Byron Moore from USC, who kinda stole Moore from UCLA.
2009-01-22 21:41:59
317.   Chris H
If Y: The Last Man is checked out of the local library you could always "check out a copy" from your local torrent site.
2009-01-22 21:43:16
318.   Tripon
top chef thoughts: Leah is lame. Carla is lame. Jamie is lame. Horsea is lame. Team Euro is awesome.
2009-01-22 21:45:56
319.   trainwreck
318
I am finding it harder and harder to root for anyone.
2009-01-22 21:49:04
320.   Tripon
319 Season 3, and season 4 had a better quality pool of chefs. Season 5 has nobody that can match Richard from season 4, or Steph from seaosn 4, or Hung from season 3.
2009-01-22 21:53:21
321.   Dodgers49
There is still no sport quite like boxing. :-)

Manny Pacquiao-Ricky Hatton bout may be back on

>> A day after the fight was supposed to be dead, Filipino champion says he has signed a contract. <<

http://tinyurl.com/al6bua

2009-01-22 21:58:38
322.   underdog
I'm sure they'll overmilk it at some point but right now I just can't see myself getting tired of Jenna as Janis Jumplin/Jooplin/etc.
2009-01-22 22:00:39
323.   Dodgers49
314 I'm more confident in what I can see with my own eyes.

Same here. Even though some of the stats guys keep telling us our eyes are lying. :-)

2009-01-22 22:05:49
324.   Jon Weisman
322 - 30 Rock had some good lines. But I'll still take the depth of the Office almost every time.
2009-01-22 22:07:21
325.   underdog
The Office has more character depth indeed, but they're totally different types of shows and sometimes I just want to laugh through a show. 30 Rock's been giving me that more consistently as of late. The Office was really great tonight though.
2009-01-22 22:08:42
326.   eusmus
I'm not sure how I could prove it, but I think Sun Yue might be the worst Laker ever.
2009-01-22 22:10:44
327.   Jon Weisman
325 - I get the difference, but I don't even think 30 Rock is that consistent. It's better than most, but it still has a lot of misses.
2009-01-22 22:11:05
328.   Jon Weisman
Jon Heyman butchers the tale of Jody Reed.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_heyman/01/22/scoop.freeagents/1.html

2009-01-22 22:11:25
329.   Bob Timmermann
326
It's the Internet, all you have to do is proclaim it so often enough and it becomes true.

But I would wait for Fangraphs to tell you his value.

2009-01-22 22:14:39
330.   Bob Timmermann
So I'm supposed to be really eager to get the MLB Network so I have the "honor" of BOTH reading AND listening to Jon Heyman?
2009-01-22 22:18:24
331.   underdog
327 Gotcha. I guess I find it more consistently funny than you perhaps. Neither show is as consistently hi-larry-ous as Two and a Half Men, however.

--

Btw, what do you think of The Life and Times of Tim?

I really dig it, when it's not just plain squirmy.

2009-01-22 22:19:31
332.   underdog
What does Jon Heyman sound like on TV? Does he sound as wrong as he does in print or online?
2009-01-22 22:20:00
333.   trainwreck
331
I like it too. It is like an animated, raunchier, not as good, version of Curb.
2009-01-22 22:21:16
334.   underdog
Yeah, like Curb meets Dr Katz. As if drawn by me.

Okay, I'm sending myself to the showers. Night.

2009-01-22 22:25:56
335.   Chris H
318 ,[ 319]

Stefan is equivalent to Stephanie and perhaps Richard from last season. Richard was more creative, but Stefan is more consistent.

Hung is head and shoulders above everyone else though. He is ridiculously talented.

2009-01-22 22:26:40
336.   Jon Weisman
331 - I watched the first segment of the pilot, didn't laugh once and dumped it. My colleague Stu loves it.
2009-01-22 22:27:33
337.   Icaros
I liked when The Life and Times of Tim had to give the speech with an interpreter, pretending to be Tim Sanchez.

That show is great.

2009-01-22 22:35:39
338.   Tripon
335 Richard was way more nationally recognized than anybody else on the show. He had the credentials to be a judge on the show before he appeared as a contestant! Heck, he was a contestant on Iron Chef years before Top Chef even existed! I love Hung, but Richard blows him away completely.
2009-01-22 22:39:21
339.   scareduck
328 - Huh.

SI's Cheerleader of the Week, UT's Lacey Stockbauer, looks frighteningly like JonBenet Ramsey.

2009-01-22 23:46:55
340.   LAbits
129 FReaking Brilliant - something along those lines with a good guarantee and relevant incentives. Win win? It seems those type of bonuses never get written into contracts. I'm guessing MRs guarantee would have to be over $20M, but with those types of incentives, it might work out.

My son gave me the Watchmen for Christmas... I'm working on it. I guess I have the same problem getting with this 'joker'/DK movie. Not my cup of tea. Nicholson's joker was horrifying while still being comic book. TDK's joker was just horrifying. If I want to see that I'll go see something seriously horrific, which will be not anytime soon.

2009-01-23 00:40:08
341.   Eric Enders
339 It says she's a sophomore, which means she's also almost exactly the same age Ramsey would have been.
2009-01-23 00:44:47
342.   Eric Enders
129 , 340 Alas, such a contract (i.e. one with statistically-based incentives) would be illegal under MLB rules.
2009-01-23 05:22:26
343.   D4P
D4P would tell us what Cora's fangraphs value is

Well ex-cuuuu-uuu-uuu-se me.

2009-01-23 06:59:57
344.   das411
Who wants to laugh at the Mets? What's that, you say? Everybody??

http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2009/01/14/the-dugout-inaugural-season-2009/

2009-01-23 07:01:47
345.   old dodger fan
The Astros sought to retain Wolf, but he rejected their three-year, $28.5 million offer, according to sources. He is not expected to command nearly as much from the Dodgers.
2009-01-23 07:57:28
346.   madmac
344 that's funny stuff right there
2009-01-23 08:33:08
347.   Jon Weisman
NPUT

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